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I'm planning on ordering from Expansys and getting at least the MHL adapter (would the Expansys one work as well as the official Samsung one?), a car kit, and maybe this sleek looking case once it's in stock.
I would get the HTC MHL adapter. It looks much better and the ports are arranged more logically.
http://shop.htcpedia.com/htc-mhl-adapter.html
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I'll be getting (when in stock) an extra battery
http://shop.htcpedia.com/samsung-galaxy-nexus-battery.html
and another charger for it
http://shop.htcpedia.com/samsung-galaxy-nexus-battery-charger.html
I have a soft pouch for when im out. I bought a usb connector so I can plug in a usb adapter for a mouse and keyboard or plug in a flash drive. I also bought a 7000mAh battery pack to charge it on the go. I did ponder on whether to buy a spare battery but that means turning the phone off, taking the battery out and changing it so a battery pack which can recharge a nearly empty battery at least 3 times makes more sense. It also has 2 outputs so you can charge 2 phones at once or power any usb device from it .
Im waiting until the samsung car dock and portrait multimedia dock are released. I was going to get an mhl adapter but I need a desk dock anyway and the docks for the nexus will have hdmi ports in them so you can output direct to a tv or monitor without the need for ugly connectors.
Mark.
mskip said:
I have a soft pouch for when im out. I bought a usb connector so I can plug in a usb adapter for a mouse and keyboard or plug in a flash drive. I also bought a 7000mAh battery pack to charge it on the go. I did ponder on whether to buy a spare battery but that means turning the phone off, taking the battery out and changing it so a battery pack which can recharge a nearly empty battery at least 3 times makes more sense. It also has 2 outputs so you can charge 2 phones at once or power any usb device from it .
Im waiting until the samsung car dock and portrait multimedia dock are released. I was going to get an mhl adapter but I need a desk dock anyway and the docks for the nexus will have hdmi ports in them so you can output direct to a tv or monitor without the need for ugly connectors.
Mark.
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Wow, didn't know they Nexus could act as a USB host. Does that mean you can read any file off a flash drive? What about portable hard drives (I'm assuming they would need external power)?
That battery pack looks nice, too bad they don't have it on expansys. It will cost me too much to ship each item from individual websites along with my Nexus
Edit: Just found the Usb host on the go thread and it seems that it is not supported out of the box (yet), you might need to flash a custom kernel for it to work until Google fixes it. That said I still ordered the cable
gabster21 said:
Wow, didn't know they Nexus could act as a USB host. Does that mean you can read any file off a flash drive? What about portable hard drives (I'm assuming they would need external power)?
That battery pack looks nice, too bad they don't have it on expansys. It will cost me too much to ship each item from individual websites along with my Nexus
Edit: Just found the Usb host on the go thread and it seems that it is not supported out of the box (yet), you might need to flash a custom kernel for it to work until Google fixes it. That said I still ordered the cable
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Paul at Modaco has made a custom kernel to support usb drives *HERE*. I havent tested that function yet though so I cant confirm it works.
Mark.
I just picked up a MilitaryShield screen protector and carbon fiber skin from amazon. I thought for $15 I couldn't go wrong.
telepathically sent with my Galaxy Nexus which is being imprisoned by FedEx
i still think what will be the best dock, this one:
http://shop.htcpedia.com/samsung-galaxy-nexus-multimedia-dock.html
or this one:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-Desktop-Dock-Galaxy-Nexus/dp/B006GJ5S3S
the 1st one has both HDMI & mini-USB.
the 2nd one is the official and uses the pogo pins but only mini-USB and audio jack.
my goal is connecting the nexus to my lcd tv with a controller such a usb gamepad.
any benefits for the pogo pins? should i connect MHL to the back of the dock?
i already bought the screen protector and mhl. will be buying a soft holster pouch if my droid x one doesnt fit in and probably some sort of case. maybe the one with the kickstand. and a battery
just bought a black leather fitbag case for it, also looking at buying a battery pack for it to charge on the go
Iv ordered a cheap ebay case, the leather flip one for when im out, £5 cant go wrong....
I want to be able to connect my Nexus to my Tv and watch videos and also play emulated games using controllers, so I'm getting the MHL Adapter and HDMI Cable. Free shipping on amazon? don't mind if I do.
idan_mo said:
i still think what will be the best dock, this one:
http://shop.htcpedia.com/samsung-galaxy-nexus-multimedia-dock.html
or this one:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-Desktop-Dock-Galaxy-Nexus/dp/B006GJ5S3S
the 1st one has both HDMI & mini-USB.
the 2nd one is the official and uses the pogo pins but only mini-USB and audio jack.
my goal is connecting the nexus to my lcd tv with a controller such a usb gamepad.
any benefits for the pogo pins? should i connect MHL to the back of the dock?
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For what you're using it for, the 2nd one won't work, unless you plug the mhl cable directly into the phone (the port should be open since it's in landscape). Everyone needs to keep in mind that the 2nd one only charges it. It WILL NOT connect to a computer for file transfer, nor will it support mhl/HDMI out.
In terms of ease of use and function, I prefer the 2nd one though, because (going off how the nexus one worked) you can just drop the phone in/take it out one handed easily; no need to line the port up. This actually works better than the n1, since it would always fall over if you weren't careful (since it was oriented in portrait mode). In addition, the phone should automatically connect to the dock through bluetooth, which I loved on the N1.
Hope this helps your decision. Oh, and I'm definitely getting the official Samsung landscape dock
so, in the back of the official dock i can connect, for example, a gamepad/controller and since the dock is landscape, i can connect to the phone the mhl cable, is that right?
idan_mo said:
so, in the back of the official dock i can connect, for example, a gamepad/controller and since the dock is landscape, i can connect to the phone the mhl cable, is that right?
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For the official portrait dock, you may or may not be able to connect everything to the back of the dock. It depends on if Samsung is foolish or not.
For the official landscape dock (with the pins) the back can ONLY be used for charging the phone. The controller and HDMI out would have to be placed in the port of the phone itself, assuming that it actually shows while sitting in the dock (I don't know if it even does). The whole point of this dock is to be a stylish desk clock/charger, and nothing else. (Again, going off of the nexus one dock. There's an extremely slight possibility that they've improved the pin connector tech, but as far as I know, it wouldn't be enough to port full video through)
So for your uses, get the portrait dock. It connects to the phone via usb, and while it may not be as fancy as the landscape one, it'll almost definitely be more useful to you.
thank you!
oh, lets say i use usb splitter on my nexus, the question is if the usb splitter still support so i can connect for example gamepad, keyboard and mouse ?
idan_mo said:
thank you!
oh, lets say i use usb splitter on my nexus, the question is if the usb splitter still support so i can connect for example gamepad, keyboard and mouse ?
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Well I know that a usb splitter will cover the gamepad, keyboard and mouse since they're all usb, but if you're considering a keyboard and mouse I'd say go for a bluetooth set. They connect extremely easily and work out of the box; I've tested it with my own mouse. Come to think of it, I'd say get a ps3 controller too. Then you could connect to the phone using bluetooth with the controller as well. Then you'd have no wires between you and the phone, which is slick in my opinion.
Of course if you don't have any of those and don't want to spend the money/already have a set you want to use then here's what you do: get something like one of these:
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/29367-HT...HDMI-TV-Out-Cable-AC-M490-Reviews.htm#reviews
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/bizlink-mhl-to-hdmi-tv-out-adapter-black-p29839.htm
and connect it to the phone. Then if you still decide to do the usb route rather than bluetooth then connect your usb splitter to the adapter. That way the MHL adapter still can send out HDMI and send in the usb inputs from the splitter.
And you'll have a full game/workstation from your phone. Not sure how effective it will be (since the homescreen/some apps don't work in landscape) but it'll definitely be cool for games.
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Well I know that a usb splitter will cover the gamepad, keyboard and mouse since they're all usb, but if you're considering a keyboard and mouse I'd say go for a bluetooth set. They connect extremely easily and work out of the box; I've tested it with my own mouse. Come to think of it, I'd say get a ps3 controller too. Then you could connect to the phone using bluetooth with the controller as well. Then you'd have no wires between you and the phone, which is slick in my opinion.
Of course if you don't have any of those and don't want to spend the money/already have a set you want to use then here's what you do: get something like one of these:
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/29367-HT...HDMI-TV-Out-Cable-AC-M490-Reviews.htm#reviews
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/bizlink-mhl-to-hdmi-tv-out-adapter-black-p29839.htm
and connect it to the phone. Then if you still decide to do the usb route rather than bluetooth then connect your usb splitter to the adapter. That way the MHL adapter still can send out HDMI and send in the usb inputs from the splitter.
And you'll have a full game/workstation from your phone. Not sure how effective it will be (since the homescreen/some apps don't work in landscape) but it'll definitely be cool for games.
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Actually, it's either MHL or USB. They use the same pins, so you can never get USB and MHL to work at the same time.
If you want HDMI output and controller input at the same time, Bluetooth is the only way to go.
mskip said:
I bought a usb connector so I can plug in a usb adapter for a mouse and keyboard or plug in a flash drive.
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Make sure it's a USB-OTG cable and not a simple adapter. That one doesn't say that it's OTG. May still be though.
tsunami1609 said:
Come to think of it, I'd say get a ps3 controller too. Then you could connect to the phone using bluetooth with the controller as well. Then you'd have no wires between you and the phone, which is slick in my opinion.
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Has anyone tried the Sixaxis tool from the market on the SGS and confirm it works?
Also, I bought this USB micro to female adapter from Expansys: http://www.expansys.ae/expansys-micro-usb-male-to-usb-female-adapter-223101/
How do I find out if it's OTG or not?
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USB Host DOES work with Flash Drives. For information see post 3: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=37201971#post37201971
This is now my main focus. So I figure why not everyone post up what devices they got to work with the Kindle Fire 2 and/or what methods it took for you to do so.
3x Different Flash Drives: Not Working However one of their LED's Illuminate
USB Keyboard: Not Working
Logitech M570 Wireless Trackball: Working
I also tried a non powered hub, it didn't work. The Green LED Illuminated but nothing more. When connected to my Galaxy S 3 I can have multiple devices attached at a time. I tore the Hub down and found that it has a blank slot for power. I wired soldered in a 0.75a Samsung Wired Charger to it. It Illuminated the LED, As well as it illuminated the Power LED in Orange on the Kindle but no devices worked on the Hub. I tested the power output of the USB Ports and it was a little more than 5v per port.
Device: Kindle Fire 2
Rooted and TWRP'ed with the Nightly of CM10.1 1-20-2013
Will keep trying. As stated in another thread, that its simply power. After testing these things out, I don't think its power related. Either the kindle just doesn't have the "Drivers" if thats what you'd call it, or it simply can not run anything but a mouse. I hope that is not the case. It will ruin all appeal in my eyes.
If you're rooted, have you tried installing StickMount?
Might work for the flash drives.
I tried, Stickmount tries. You can tell its trying to work something out. So more tests with a cut up usb cable on the OTG cable does in fact show there is a voltage issue. My Galaxy puts out perfect 5v. The Kindle puts out around 2.5v. I tried making another OTG cable but failed. I guess its just not getting connection to the extra pin. So I have a USB Extension I'm gonna split open and power it. So I don't have to hack up my only working OTG.
The main issue I'm having with this is, my current power unit is a measly 0.75a. And It charges the device. So I figure there will still be a voltage issue due to the device charging. So I could cut the red wire going to the device for now. But not sure if the device will realize this somehow and just not work. Thoughts? I've seen this done before when someone made themselves a powered OTG Hub system out of a couple USB Cables.
I'll continue till I'm too tired to think hehe.
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Ok couple hours later.... lol I had a USB Extension, I cleanly just slit it down the m iddle and soldered in the two power wires from a samsung micro usb charger. The Power is 5v at 0.75a. So its not much. I know it wouldn't charge my nexus nor Galaxy Tab, but it charges the Kindle, or at least the kindle says it is. I doubt it really is. Anyway I soldered it in, cleaned up the surgery started some testing on my phone first. I connected a Micro USB cable to one end and then the other to my phone, and then the Kindle. It charges, or again says it is (*kindle might require more amperage). So Next I connect the OTG Cable to the other end and connect it to my phone, It charges through the OTG Cable. Next the Kindle, it does not charge the kindle. Possible amperage requirements, I don't know yet.
So onto the test without StickMount, Failure. It acts the same.
Test with StickMount, Well I'll let this screen shot explain most of it:
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It worked! StickMount notification pops up and I found the flash drive in the current location. Inside the SD Card under a folder called /usbstorage/sda1/. Not exactly my first choice, not sure if this can be changed to go into mnt or somewhere else. The Device itself doesn't notice the flash drive. So if you go into System/Storage, it does not show the flash drive. But it is fully functional. I accessed some files without any issues.
So my final consensus: The Kindle Fire 2 currently has OTG/USB Host Capabilities. From the USB Host Diagnostics I ran, its fully functional. However the main issue is Power. The second issue is the device on the most current (1/20/2013 CM10.1 Nightly) rom doesn't have the proper... I don't know the right wording for it, but lets say drivers since I'm a pc guy. I'm sure with more development, it can control any device with the only issue being power related. This takes away from the meaning of "On The Go". Having some sort of 5v power source connected to your device while your trying to use a hard drive or something else is going to be a pain in the ass for most people. For me it really does not matter since the device is going to be setup in my car for media sourcing as well as game play. So a 32gb flash drive and a Xbox 360 controller is all I will be using.
I will be doing more testing with multiple devices but it is 4am right now. One more thing, Bluetooth abilities are possible with a cheap dongle. However for some reason the Kindle recognizes it as a physical keyboard. I have tested this on other devices in the past so I believe it is possible with some more development. But that's far in the future and still of course require additional power.
Goodnight guys.
I have 3 different thumb drives.
Sony 4GB = does not work
SanDisk cruzer slide 16GB = does not work
SanDisk cruzer 8GB = Works
The regular cruzer is probably 5+ years old. I have access to others and will update my post when I get them.
I'm on PowerPoint45 cm 10.1 using chainfires stickmount.
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Nice. The regular flash prob requires less power. I noticed one of mine which was larger almost worked. But would shut off prob to not enough power. But a newer one wouldn't light up at all.
Plans for today: To re build that USB Hub I was messing with last night. I desoldered the USB cable off of it to solder in a Micro USB, But I don't remember if it worked. I then tried to turn it into an OTG direct 4port hub but nothing happened. So I'm sure I screwed something up. But the initial results should be a powered, 4port Micro USB OTG Hub. I just hope I have enough juice to make it work for not only charging the Kindle but powering the devices on the hub. I have a Galaxy Tab Official 2.0a car charger I can try out. I want to be able to have at the least, a 32gb Flash Drive and a 360 Gaming Controller.
Well I got some done today. I found an old phone charger that was 1a. I finally just used my OTG Cable and soldered it in place of the std usb connector on a cheap USB Hub. I'm sure everyone has the same hub I'm using, I have two, one says Microsoft on it, the other says AMD but they are super cheap and are given out everywhere you go:
Its a non powered USB hub, however when opened up there is a bare spot for a power connector. Middle pin is 5v + and the two around it are common Ground -.
Don't be strayed by my crap solder work. I'm using a cheap harbor freight soldering iron and the new charger has very thick wire so it didn't really fit in the small holes. The ground is just directly connected to everything else thats ground related so I grounded it there. That way the two wires aren't soo close together.
I have now successfully tested 3 flash drives, NTFS, Fat32 and some strange Fat32 drive plus my Trackball. As well as this I have successfully charged my Galaxy SIII off of the hub. I wouldn't exactly recommend this unless your running like a legit 2a charger. I only did it to test out power requirements. I think either my cable is damaged too or I'm at the limit of power the small 1a can handle because every once in a while the hub shuts off. I think its just cable related.
Here is everything connected as you can see.
However the tablet it self is not charging. At least the icon on the notification bar doesn't say so. I have tested the voltage here and its 5v. But IDK? Maybe the Kindle wont allow it? BUT, with all my testing, the battery has stayed at 88%. I'm gonna try to kill it some more. Maybe with some transferring files between drives.
lol As I'm typing this, I sit down for a second with the tablet on the carpet floor and just stare at it. I've noticed that some reason the led turns off and on at random times. But I've never seen it say its charging. Well the screen just dimmed but didn't shut off so I get up to check real fast and when I turn it on, it says 88% - Charging! But then instantly goes back to 88% - Not Charging when the screen lights up. And there it goes again (Please bare with me as I'm doing this all this very second.) Looks like it just needs some more amperage. 1a is not enough to power everything and charge the device.
I was worried that the kindle wasn't going to support Charging OTG. Well I happen to have a spare 2a Galaxy Tablet charger and no Galaxy Tab.... I'll try it out and get back to you guys!
nFiniti said:
Well I got some done today. I found an old phone charger that was 1a. I finally just used my OTG Cable and soldered it in place of the std usb connector on a cheap USB Hub. I'm sure everyone has the same hub I'm using, I have two, one says Microsoft on it, the other says AMD but they are super cheap and are given out everywhere you go:
Its a non powered USB hub, however when opened up there is a bare spot for a power connector. Middle pin is 5v + and the two around it are common Ground -.
Don't be strayed by my crap solder work. I'm using a cheap harbor freight soldering iron and the new charger has very thick wire so it didn't really fit in the small holes. The ground is just directly connected to everything else thats ground related so I grounded it there. That way the two wires aren't soo close together.
I have now successfully tested 3 flash drives, NTFS, Fat32 and some strange Fat32 drive plus my Trackball. As well as this I have successfully charged my Galaxy SIII off of the hub. I wouldn't exactly recommend this unless your running like a legit 2a charger. I only did it to test out power requirements. I think either my cable is damaged too or I'm at the limit of power the small 1a can handle because every once in a while the hub shuts off. I think its just cable related.
Here is everything connected as you can see.
*PIC REMOVED BY ME BECAUSE CMON, IT'S A QUOTE, YOU'VE SEEN THE PIC ALREADY!*
However the tablet it self is not charging. At least the icon on the notification bar doesn't say so. I have tested the voltage here and its 5v. But IDK? Maybe the Kindle wont allow it? BUT, with all my testing, the battery has stayed at 88%. I'm gonna try to kill it some more. Maybe with some transferring files between drives.
lol As I'm typing this, I sit down for a second with the tablet on the carpet floor and just stare at it. I've noticed that some reason the led turns off and on at random times. But I've never seen it say its charging. Well the screen just dimmed but didn't shut off so I get up to check real fast and when I turn it on, it says 88% - Charging! But then instantly goes back to 88% - Not Charging when the screen lights up. And there it goes again (Please bare with me as I'm doing this all this very second.) Looks like it just needs some more amperage. 1a is not enough to power everything and charge the device.
I was worried that the kindle wasn't going to support Charging OTG. Well I happen to have a spare 2a Galaxy Tablet charger and no Galaxy Tab.... I'll try it out and get back to you guys!
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This looks good! If you want, once you are done with the testing, I can try and write up a guide with your words on how to do it then let you post that. I did the same for some of the stickied threads. It looks like you're almost done and I think this would be a really good info thread once compiled nicely. Stuff like how to do OTG, what works, what needs a powered HUB, stuff like that. I personally will probably never use OTG, but I see the value and I like what it can be used for.
Best of luck!
That's nice. lol I understand I talk a lot, but when it comes to things I must have, like more than 5gb of memory on a device that should have a few TB . It would be nice for others to try out things to see what works and what doesn't. Because to have a powered USB Device is kinda not the point of OTG "On The Go". But like someone figured out that one of his older Flash drives worked, so hopefully others chime in too.
If you wanna do that, you have my approval. Just make sure it suits what I did, "Dedicated OTG". or "Guaranteed OTG". Since that's what I was mainly working towards. This discussion thread is mainly to locate what works and what doesn't and the main OTG Capabilities of the Kindle Fire2. I don't plan on changing much else to what I have already done except adding a larger psu to the hub so it charges the device while powering the hub and its devices for my own personal gain. I want to keep this open so people can throw up what they have learned as well so the information is out there for others. I personally hate going into a device and not knowing.
nFiniti said:
That's nice. lol I understand I talk a lot, but when it comes to things I must have, like more than 5gb of memory on a device that should have a few TB . It would be nice for others to try out things to see what works and what doesn't. Because to have a powered USB Device is kinda not the point of OTG "On The Go". But like someone figured out that one of his older Flash drives worked, so hopefully others chime in too.
If you wanna do that, you have my approval. Just make sure it suits what I did, "Dedicated OTG". or "Guaranteed OTG". Since that's what I was mainly working towards. This discussion thread is mainly to locate what works and what doesn't and the main OTG Capabilities of the Kindle Fire2. I don't plan on changing much else to what I have already done except adding a larger psu to the hub so it charges the device while powering the hub and its devices for my own personal gain. I want to keep this open so people can throw up what they have learned as well so the information is out there for others. I personally hate going into a device and not knowing.
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I should get an OTG cable. I have a small flashdrive, not sure about the name or brand since the size made it temporarily misplaced. It's the same size as the wireless receivers though for most modern mice and keyboard so it's SUPER small, which I actually wouldn't mind tucking the cable into my case, plus it's 32GB. The issue on PC, is the transfer rate is a little low, but that may be because it uses so little power, which I'm hoping.
Any good places to get an OTG cable?
Ebay, Amazon (great place for cables)
https://www.google.com/search?q=OTG...29,d.aWc&fp=4a19662fa4882be9&biw=1920&bih=965
Just a quick search. You can also make one, if space is an issue. You just need a MicroUSB and a female USB. Pin 5 gets soldered to pin 4 on the MicroUSB and bam! Making one would help with space issues since you can tuck the wires easier. If you are good at soldering.
nFiniti said:
Ebay, Amazon (great place for cables)
https://www.google.com/search?q=OTG...29,d.aWc&fp=4a19662fa4882be9&biw=1920&bih=965
Just a quick search. You can also make one, if space is an issue. You just need a MicroUSB and a female USB. Pin 5 gets soldered to pin 4 on the MicroUSB and bam! Making one would help with space issues since you can tuck the wires easier. If you are good at soldering.
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Is an OTG cable special or just F-USB and M-MicoUSB?
If it's just those, then I can go poke around Frys and Radioshack for one.
I don't know anything about soldering, how much is a good kit to get started? I think a friend of mine has one and knows how to use it, so I can ask him, but I realize it's something I should learn especially with the hardware mods I would love to do. If I can't find a cable in stores, or if it's special (I ask that because most employees at frys and whatnot aren't very helpful or knowledgable, so I don't want them giving me something that won't work, but if it's just those ends I'm looking for, I can do that) then I may just look into soldering my own and learning that. I see they're around $50 online but I don't want to screw myself over there.
You can chose a decent soldering iron anywhere from 15 to like 80 bucks. I recently saw some nice ones with adjustable power levels for good price. And tons of different tips. My brother Skorpn has the more expensive one that heats up fast and has adjustable power settings to fit any projects needs. Hr has a nice soldering station I wish I could use more. I however just have a cheap harbor freight iron with a fine tip from radio shack and I use the thinnest silver solder avail there as well. Flux is also a must.
Anyway. Otg mode is accomplished on the micro USB side. They have 5 pins instead of 4. The 5th is used for doing all sorts of things with the right add one tho. If you solder in a small wire to it and jump it to pin 4 which is ground, it turns on otg. Not really hard to do. You can make one decently. Just need a good micro USB cable and a female normal USB cable. Solder them together and then do the otg modifications.
Other than doing it yourself, they are very cheap. But if you have the spare cables, it doesn't hurt to play around.
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I've got my USB mouse to work using otg cable, is there any chance using it could damage my kindle, this Mount app I use says it can damage the kindle because of the power output
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I don't know what ap your talking about. But no. The Kindle Fire 2 only puts out half the voltage when in OTG Mode. So only certain things will work without additional power. Your mouse will work just fine, especially if its a wireless mouse, since the wireless device doesn't require hardly any power. Some other devices will work too. You don't need a mount app for using devices, only for Flash Drives. And so far out of every one I've used the best one is Chainfire's StickMount. Chainfire is the creator of Superuser.
Anyways, I'm not using a 2a charger to power my USB OTG Hub, and it powers all 4 devices and charges the device with ease. Cannot wait to have this thing installed.
OTG testing
After reading this thread I thought I would have a go and do some testing myself. so I found a USB y cable teamed that with a female to female USB adaptor so it would extend my OTG cable but allow me to pipe in some power (5v off a arduino) off the y cable. I have got my mouse working and USB flash drive but I cant get my Xbox 360 wired controller to work
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After reading this thread I thought I would have a go and do some testing myself. so I found a USB y cable teamed that with a female to female USB adaptor so it would extend my OTG cable but allow me to pipe in some power (5v off a arduino) off the y cable. I have got my mouse working and USB flash drive but I cant get my Xbox 360 wired controller to work
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You know the amperage of the power source you are using? It might just be not enough power. Because the device itself will take from it also. Its pretty much splitting it. Which is why I went with a legit Galaxy Tab 2a charger since its one of the most powerful chargers I've come across. I hope it works. Since bluetooth doesn't work on the OTG yet, I need the 360 controller to work. I will be trying a wireless controller and one of those Microsoft adapters soon. Hopefully it works! I'd love to play some video games in the car
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You know the amperage of the power source you are using? It might just be not enough power. Because the device itself will take from it also. Its pretty much splitting it. Which is why I went with a legit Galaxy Tab 2a charger since its one of the most powerful chargers I've come across. I hope it works. Since bluetooth doesn't work on the OTG yet, I need the 360 controller to work. I will be trying a wireless controller and one of those Microsoft adapters soon. Hopefully it works! I'd love to play some video games in the car
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You have a good point there, I haven't tested the amperage that comes out of a arduino but I don't think it would be much. I could try and hock up a iPad charger which I think is 2amp.
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You have a good point there, I haven't tested the amperage that comes out of a arduino but I don't think it would be much. I could try and hock up a iPad charger which I think is 2amp.
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I have just tested the Xbox 360 controller being powered from a iPad charging plug and now joy. It lights up but then goes off
I'm making my own otg cable tonight if the spare usb cable I found works for data and not just charging. Basically I have a female usb port on a cable that I used to splice in with an original Xbox controller plug to be able to use usb sticks as memory cards for my Xbox to be able to install gentoo Linux on my Xbox (original Xbox controllers are usb 1.0 with a proprietary plug type) so I know the female port works fine for data transfers.
Eventually I'll buy some plugs to solder onto both the usb and Xbox cables so I can yank the female plug from the otg cable and snap it right onto the Xbox plug instead of having to constantly re-splice them or buy a new usb extension cable for the female end/buy a pre made otg cable.
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Oh yeah, the point to my post was that I have three usb hubs, two powered one not, and a ton of stuff to test with my kf2 like a billion usb keyboards, mice, storage devices, and the one I REALLY want to get working, my afterglow Xbox 360 controller for minecraft pocket edition
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Support any KF2 ROM Bluetooth Dongles ? (to use BT headset)
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Support any KF2 ROM Bluetooth Dongles ? (to use BT headset)
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IDK how thats going. I don't think anyone is working on it since the KF2 doesn't have bluetooth to begin with. When I connect my cheapo BT Dongle, it doesn't allow me to turn the switch to on. However it does see the BT Dongle and thinks its a keyboard of some sort. Which would be nice because I have a really nice BT Keyboard for Android I wanna use.
Also would be nice to use PS3 Controllers. I'm going to attempt the wireless 360 controller with the adapter one of these days, whenever I can focus some cash in that direction. I really want a wireless 360 controller on my KF2 so I can play some of the higher end games as well as the older Emulated games. Just think its too cool
hi,
could be nice to see if the smart dock (the one with HDMI port, 3 usb ports, etc) manufactured for the galaxy note 2, will be compatible with the tablet note 10.1 2014 edition.
It seems to work on the new note 3 and just wondering if might be the case for the tablet as well. I see that the new tablet has a usb port that looks like the one in the note 3 (even thogh the latter mounts a usb 3 and the tablet a usb 2 as far as I know)
Regards
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hi,
could be nice to see if the smart dock (the one with HDMI port, 3 usb ports, etc) manufactured for the galaxy note 2, will be compatible with the tablet note 10.1 2014 edition.
It seems to work on the new note 3 and just wondering if might be the case for the tablet as well. I see that the new tablet has a usb port that looks like the one in the note 3 (even thogh the latter mounts a usb 3 and the tablet a usb 2 as far as I know)
Regards
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I second this, the dock looks great for use with the tablet. If it works of course.
I have
<samsungs site>us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/EDD-S20JWEGSTA
this(sorry can't create links yet) dock. If this is the one you're referencing, it works awesome with my S4... but... doesn't work with the note 10.1 2014 I have. Doesn't even recognize it as a source of power. So the dock appears to be useless.
Saik0Shinigami said:
I have
<samsungs site>us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/EDD-S20JWEGSTA
this(sorry can't create links yet) dock. If this is the one you're referencing, it works awesome with my S4... but... doesn't work with the note 10.1 2014 I have. Doesn't even recognize it as a source of power. So the dock appears to be useless.
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Yes thats the one, its a shame though that it does not work. One of those could turn the tab into a small computer, for when you travel etc.
try it with original power adapter from note 10.1 2014
Hi guys,
Did you try the Multimedia dock powered by the AC USB charging adapter which came with the Note 2014?
wugga said:
Hi guys,
Did you try the Multimedia dock powered by the AC USB charging adapter which came with the Note 2014?
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Yes, I have tried it with original AC adapter and with Note 10.1 AC adapter - nothing happened in both cases - the dock just doesn't do anything with Note 10, it does work just fine with Note 2.
It's funny though, as I do have another adapter, it's called HDMI Connection kit (http://shop.brando.com/HDTV-Adapter-and-OTG-Card-Reader_p09720c1451d001.html), and that one does work, I can connect USB device, SD card and HDMI out works too.
I haven't yet tried USB and HDMI at the same time - I'll do it today.
alese said:
Yes, I have tried it with original AC adapter and with Note 10.1 AC adapter - nothing happened in both cases - the dock just doesn't do anything with Note 10, it does work just fine with Note 2.
It's funny though, as I do have another adapter, it's called HDMI Connection kit (http://shop.brando.com/HDTV-Adapter-and-OTG-Card-Reader_p09720c1451d001.html), and that one does work, I can connect USB device, SD card and HDMI out works too.
I haven't yet tried USB and HDMI at the same time - I'll do it today.
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Interesting! Please let us know if it works. HDMI + USB would be perfect. Could you also try charging it through micro-USB at the same time?
ap27 said:
Interesting! Please let us know if it works. HDMI + USB would be perfect. Could you also try charging it through micro-USB at the same time?
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Well I have done some tests and it works (mostly).
I'm typing this reply on USB keyboard connected to generic USB HUB, that has also connected USB mouse and an USB flash drive.
Hub is connected to the USB port on the adapter.
I have also HDMI cable connected to the adapter and the whole thing is connected via HDMI2VGA converter to 17" flat screen. Picture is streched but everything works.
The "mostly" part is because the "connection" to USB devices is a bit unstable - sometimes they disconnect and reconnect and especially because you can't charge the tablet at the same time whatever charger I connect it just doesnt charge the device.
I'm guessing Samsung either screwed something or intentionally changed on connection port or in software compared to S3/4 and Note 2/3...
Thats good to know, thanks! I'm not too worried about the charging part since its a tablet. I hope the HDMI can actually output 1080p 30Hz video
Can we have a link for this smart dock please ?
I wonder if this one may work...?
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0076Z3FU...F8&colid=3Q1HJXOWAXE7M&coliid=I1WUSECYT42V5J
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luigi37 said:
hi,
could be nice to see if the smart dock (the one with HDMI port, 3 usb ports, etc) manufactured for the galaxy note 2, will be compatible with the tablet note 10.1 2014 edition.
It seems to work on the new note 3 and just wondering if might be the case for the tablet as well. I see that the new tablet has a usb port that looks like the one in the note 3 (even thogh the latter mounts a usb 3 and the tablet a usb 2 as far as I know)
Regards
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I confirm, this dock doesn't work with galaxy note 10.1 2014. It doesn't make anything, no charge, no USB, no HDMI... But it works perfectly with the note 2...
karlichon said:
I confirm, this dock doesn't work with galaxy note 10.1 2014. It doesn't make anything, no charge, no USB, no HDMI... But it works perfectly with the note 2...
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....and the Note 3
I would really like charging and HDMI at the same time. Any products verified to do this?
Does anyone have any idea's why the dock doesn't work? Anyone willing to try to force it to work either through an app or even a kernel mod? I think this warrants further investigation.
Does anyone know if the DA-E570 wireless dual dock works with the G-Note 10.1 2014.
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Does anyone know if the DA-E570 wireless dual dock works with the G-Note 10.1 2014.
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USB sense resistors
The reason why the smart dock does not work on the Note 10.1 2014 is that in different micro USB accessories there are different resistors between pin 4 and 5 in the micro USB connector. The manufacturers can make device specific accessories by making the Android device react on a specific resistor in its accessory. There are other xda-developer threads discussing this, and trying to sort out how to e.g. compose smart docks providing charging to the Android device and using its USB host capabilities to connect USB devices.
One Samsung smart dock seems to have a 40.2 kOhm resistor and work on some Galaxys. But not on Note 10.1 2014.
I have tried all resistor values that are documented to be able to possibly have something to do with dock mode and OTG mode, but the Note 10.1 2014 does not react on any of them except on 40.2 k Ohm. On all other values it just charges and does not accept to use connected USB devices.
Only 40.2 k Ohm shows a slight difference. It shows a red cross over the chargng icon, indicating that it charges slower. But USB to a keyboard does not work.
Only 0 Ohm between pin 4 and 5 causes OTG mode so that USB data devices can be used. But then no charging is accepted by the Note 2014.
Look for xda-developer areas titled "fun with resistors" and "using OTG mode and charging at the same time" for a lot of information but no solution for the Note 10.1 2014.
I have tried the following resistor values:
28.7 k, 34 k, 40.2 k, 49.9 k, 64.9 k, 80.7 k, 100 k, 102 k, 124 k, 200 k, 365 k and 619 k Ohm.
I now just hope that Samsung has some yet unrevealed way to tell the Note 2014 that a new type of smart dock is attached, and that it will be launched soon.
I can imagine one reason for not making the earlier smart dock work with the Note 2014. The Note 2014 uses 5.3 V for charging to make charging more rapid, and Samsung might think it is not really in compliance with the USB specifications to distribute that as well to other USB devices. Just a guess...
Hi All, I'm about to get one of these as the screen of my S4 is broken and Samsung asks too much money to fix it Any developments on getting it to work with Note 10.1 2014?
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Hi All, I'm about to get one of these as the screen of my S4 is broken and Samsung asks too much money to fix it Any developments on getting it to work with Note 10.1 2014?
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This is the only thing stopping me from buying the Note, has anyone found a smart docking station that charges at the same time?
alese said:
Well I have done some tests and it works (mostly).
I'm typing this reply on USB keyboard connected to generic USB HUB, that has also connected USB mouse and an USB flash drive.
Hub is connected to the USB port on the adapter.
I have also HDMI cable connected to the adapter and the whole thing is connected via HDMI2VGA converter to 17" flat screen. Picture is streched but everything works.
The "mostly" part is because the "connection" to USB devices is a bit unstable - sometimes they disconnect and reconnect and especially because you can't charge the tablet at the same time whatever charger I connect it just doesnt charge the device.
I'm guessing Samsung either screwed something or intentionally changed on connection port or in software compared to S3/4 and Note 2/3...
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Does it work to charge when you use HDMI/flash drive?
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I''ve gone through two otg cables and I'm sure none of them are broken. Is there a certain configuration/app for I need to use it? Really wana store my anime into a usb to watch for later when I'm on the bus or something where wifi isnt available?
kirbymaster101 said:
I''ve gone through two otg cables and I'm sure none of them are broken. Is there a certain configuration/app for I need to use it? Really wana store my anime into a usb to watch for later when I'm on the bus or something where wifi isnt available?
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Hi, I have also bought one OTG recently. I am on MoKee ROM. I just plugged my pen drive to OTG cable, and otg cable to my phone. It just worked! it detected USB as external storage ( SD card ). Nothing else I did!
kirbymaster101 said:
I''ve gone through two otg cables and I'm sure none of them are broken. Is there a certain configuration/app for I need to use it? Really wana store my anime into a usb to watch for later when I'm on the bus or something where wifi isnt available?
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I just plug in its auto detect .If yrs dont detect then its either yr cable faulty or yr rom could have messed up yr phone or the device you are connecting to cannot detect yr phone .There is no special sofware /application to use otg .
I agree w/ post #3. Your phone should read it automatically. I plug mine in and can pick it up immediately with the Root Explorer app.
Use debugging in developer options?
well my 3rd otg cable doesnt work so it must be my rom. anyone else using pacman rom with otg cable working?
otg inop
I had same issue bought a cable couldn't get it to recognize any usb device I bought usbfm app on playstorw and just started trying different things , it turned out to be me and not cable I used it on various 4.2,4.3 and 4.4 roms key is to be in right usbdrive directory mine was usbdriveA
As I said in my earlier post, I was able to locate the flash drive connected to my USB OTG with Root Explorer. It will be listed under storage.
kirbymaster101 said:
I''ve gone through two otg cables and I'm sure none of them are broken. Is there a certain configuration/app for I need to use it? Really wana store my anime into a usb to watch for later when I'm on the bus or something where wifi isnt available?
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If you want actual help, then you need to always provide sufficient details, such as what hardware you are trying to plug into the OTG . Any ROM should work, most likely you either are trying to use a device that draws too much power or your have a cable that's not Samsung compatible.
DigitalMD said:
If you want actual help, then you need to always provide sufficient details, such as what hardware you are trying to plug into the OTG . Any ROM should work, most likely you either are trying to use a device that draws too much power or your have a cable that's not Samsung compatible.
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I am trying to put a 64gb strontium usb into my s3. I dont think it is the cable since I ordered one online that was meant for an s3. I see youtube videos of people using otg cables that get notifications that its connected even if theres nothing plugged into the otg cable. However I dont get any notifications or message with/without a usb device connected to the otg cable. I'll see if I can test the cable on my friends phone some later time to make sure if its the cable's fault. The main problem I have is whether I'm SUPPOSE to get a notifcation or not since people who posted in this thread are giving me mixed answers, some do get the notification, some do not. I'm just wondering if I'm the former or the latter or even if its just broken for sure.
I don;t think you get any notification unless a USB device is attached, I will check that tomorrow with my S3. Additionally, I don;t think the S3 can supply enough power for a USB device of more than 32 GB the power to the USB port is very limited on phones, about 100 ma vs. 500 ma for a standard PC USB port. You can check whats going on by looking at a LOGCAT on terminal if you are using a rooted ROM. This article / video may also be helpful.
http://www.androidnz.net/2012/06/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-connectivity-demo.html?m=1
DigitalMD said:
I don;t think you get any notification unless a USB device is attached, I will check that tomorrow with my S3. Additionally, I don;t think the S3 can supply enough power for a USB device of more than 32 GB the power to the USB port is very limited on phones, about 100 ma vs. 500 ma for a standard PC USB port. You can check whats going on by looking at a LOGCAT on terminal if you are using a rooted ROM. This article / video may also be helpful.
http://www.androidnz.net/2012/06/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-connectivity-demo.html?m=1
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okay some good and bad news.
Good news is tested out my wireless mouse and it works. Bad news is when I try to use my 64gb stick I get a folder in storage called usbdisk0 but its empty? Anything to fix this? Using es file manager.
Make sure your device is formatted either FAT32 or exFAT
DigitalMD said:
Make sure your device is formatted either FAT32 or exFAT
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GOOD news, tested out my 8gb usb and it worked. Kinda depressed my 64gb usb doesnt work though. Anyone have any tips to make this 64 usb work. I'm fine with the 8gb but it would be awesome to make the 64gb card work. it is formatted as fat32. I dont think my phone can supply enough power since my 64 gb usb doesnt even light up when plugged in.
kirbymaster101 said:
GOOD news, tested out my 8gb usb and it worked. Kinda depressed my 64gb usb doesnt work though. Anyone have any tips to make this 64 usb work. I'm fine with the 8gb but it would be awesome to make the 64gb card work. it is formatted as fat32. I dont think my phone can supply enough power since my 64 gb usb doesnt even light up when plugged in.
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Get one of these and use the external power for any devices that the S3 cannot power on its own.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GD8AWKG/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
DigitalMD said:
Get one of these and use the external power for any devices that the S3 cannot power on its own.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GD8AWKG/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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So, its a poweerd usb hub + card reader basically? This looks awesome but do I need to like plug it in the wall or will it work portably?
kirbymaster101 said:
So, its a poweerd usb hub + card reader basically? This looks awesome but do I need to like plug it in the wall or will it work portably?
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NO, you only have to attach outside power for devices the S3 cannot power , like a hard drive. and the aux power can be your USB charger
For the comments made about a USB OTG not having enough power to run some devices. They make USB OTG cables which can do this due to an extra extension which allows for a power source to be used. The cable I have has a male and female plug. All I do is plug in the device which needs a little extra power to the USB port, attach the male cable to my phone, and plug a power cable, like the one that came with my phone, into the female plug. It allows me to run my older WD ext HD which need its own power source. Here are a few pics I took of my USB OTG cable. It works great and didn't cost an arm and a leg either.
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The beneifit of this http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
is that it accommodates various card sizes plus has 3 USB ports, all work at the same time.
DigitalMD said:
The beneifit of this http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
is that it accommodates various card sizes plus has 3 USB ports, all work at the same time.
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link gives me 404 error.
So I purchased the Verizon LTE Tab S4. I have a Dex station already set up at the house which works great with my Note 8. However, when I plug my Tab S4 in I get an error stating "Samsung dex not available while cover opened."
Have any other Dex power users run across this? If so, have you figured out a way to disable this limitation?
I'm a soft tpu case kinda person and hate case covers. and so disappointed that I have to drop another $60-$150 for a case just so I can use dex at the house.
Additionally disappointed that they didn't make the tablet screen a keyboard/trackpad for when the HDMI is used for Dex.
I'm currently using DeX without any case without issues. Now I do have a bluetooth mouse and keyboard, but I do not have an HDMI connection right now.
Deathman20 said:
I'm currently using DeX without any case without issues. Now I do have a bluetooth mouse and keyboard, but I do not have an HDMI connection right now.
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Yes, same here. Dex on the tablet works fine (landscape only). The issue is when you try to use an external monitor.
Airfoil said:
Yes, same here. Dex on the tablet works fine (landscape only). The issue is when you try to use an external monitor.
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I think you are probably using one of those custom USB-C to HDMI adapters that triggered dex on the S8/S9. When i used one of those, i got the error you are getting.
You need to use a regular adapter and it will work fine without the need for the book cover. Tested this myself as i have both types of adapters.
clubtech said:
I think you are probably using one of those custom USB-C to HDMI adapters that triggered dex on the S8/S9. When i used one of those, i got the error you are getting.
You need to use a regular adapter and it will work fine without the need for the book cover. Tested this myself as i have both types of adapters.
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I'm confused. The "trigger" for the S8/S9/Note8 is that the USB -> HDMI adapter has to be powered (to power the phone). Even the DexPad won't work if the power supply is unplugged.
The new Tab S4 and Note 9 no longer have the power requirement to trigger Dex Mode. so connecting any simple Type C to HDMI adapter will give you the option to trigger Dex.
Could you link the model/type of adapter that you're able to use to trigger Dex on an external monitor? ALSO, is your Tab S4 plugged into the $150 keyboard (As the hard contacts appear to enable Dex to be mirrored to a monitor).
Went to BestBuy and tried one of their type-C to HDMI 4k adapters, and just like you said, it works perfectly! I was even able to use the tablet as a huge touchpad.
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Went to BestBuy and tried one of their type-C to HDMI 4k adapters, and just like you said, it works perfectly! I was even able to use the tablet as a huge touchpad.
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Would you mind to share the adapter model you are using?. I need to find in the UK.
The one I have, show me the message "... cover opened" everytime I try to activate DEX function. However, it works perfectly as mirror.
The one I have.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/WU-MINGLU-...ype+c+hdmi+adapter&refinements=p_72:419153031
Pechan_uvas said:
Would you mind to share the adapter model you are using?. I need to find in the UK.
The one I have, show me the message "... cover opened" everytime I try to activate DEX function. However, it works perfectly as mirror.
The one I have.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/WU-MINGLU-...ype+c+hdmi+adapter&refinements=p_72:419153031
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You want to use a plain vanilla USB-C to HDMI adaptor.
The one you have is for Samsung S8/S9 DeX and you do not need that capability. Unfortunately the one I have is no longer listed on Amazon here in the US. The only identifying mark is "Volt + tech" with the + plus sign above the "tech" portion.
I talked to Samsung support about Dex on an external monitor being blocked I got this reply.
"This model number EJ-FT830UBEGUJ is the one that allows all the feature to work on your Galaxy Tab S4. ^Marc"
Marc is giving the model number for the Tab S4 keyboard cover. Samsung Dex has now been blocked unless it detects the user has purchased the expensive accessory, thought once that's happened Dex is unlocked, so you don't need to keep the keyboard attached.
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I talked to Samsung support about Dex on an external monitor being blocked I got this reply.
"This model number EJ-FT830UBEGUJ is the one that allows all the feature to work on your Galaxy Tab S4. ^Marc"
Marc is giving the model number for the Tab S4 keyboard cover. Samsung Dex has now been blocked unless it detects the user has purchased the expensive accessory, thought once that's happened Dex is unlocked, so you don't need to keep the keyboard attached.
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I have no idea where you got this incorrect information. I can use DeX on HDMI from my Tab S4 without the keyboard cover. In fact, I do not have the keyboard cover. And when connected by HDMI one can use the TAB S4 as a large trackpad.
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I have no idea where you got this incorrect information. I can use DeX on HDMI from my Tab S4 without the keyboard cover. In fact, I do not have the keyboard cover. And when connected by HDMI one can use the TAB S4 as a large trackpad.
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As I said, I talked to Samsung support and that is what they said on the matter.
Unlike most people replying here I've actually checked what works and not said random stuff about adaptors.
This is what I know after experimenting with two Dex devices, one of which is a blocked Tab S4.
1) The Tab S4 can run Dex locally, it exits Dex instantly when any HDMI adapter is connected.
2) There's no difference between makes of adapter or if they're powered.
3) An unblocked Dex capable device starts Dex when it detects an external monitor and becomes a track-pad.
4) People in forums report owning an official cover unlocks the Tab S4 even when the cover is no longer attached.
5) The advice from the official Samsung support is to buy a keyboard cover to enable features.
I'd be be interested in talking to people who have bricked Tab S4 desktops and are about to attach a keyboard for the first time.
I'd also like to know about people who can use Dex on an EXTERNAL MONITOR without buying accessories. When and where were your devices sold?
Usern4m3 said:
As I said, I talked to Samsung support and that is what they said on the matter.
Unlike most people replying here I've actually checked what works and not said random stuff about adaptors.
This is what I know after experimenting with two Dex devices, one of which is a blocked Tab S4.
1) The Tab S4 can run Dex locally, it exits Dex instantly when any HDMI adapter is connected.
2) There's no difference between makes of adapter or if they're powered.
3) An unblocked Dex capable device starts Dex when it detects an external monitor and becomes a track-pad.
4) People in forums report owning an official cover unlocks the Tab S4 even when the cover is no longer attached.
5) The advice from the official Samsung support is to buy a keyboard cover to enable features.
I'd be be interested in talking to people who have bricked Tab S4 desktops and are about to attach a keyboard for the first time.
I'd also like to know about people who can use Dex on an EXTERNAL MONITOR without buying accessories. When and where were your devices sold?
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I've no idea why you're disagreeing with what other people have said, they are absolutely 100% correct. If you have one of the third party devices that enabled DeX on an S8 for example, the Tab S4 will complain about a cover. This is what happened with my Tab S4 and the old adapter I had for my S8+. I bought a new 3rd party adapter ("7 in 1 USB-C multi function") from Amazon and no longer get that message, DeX just works on an external monitor as it should. No cover, no keyboard needed.
Usern4m3 said:
As I said, I talked to Samsung support and that is what they said on the matter.
Unlike most people replying here I've actually checked what works and not said random stuff about adaptors.
This is what I know after experimenting with two Dex devices, one of which is a blocked Tab S4.
1) The Tab S4 can run Dex locally, it exits Dex instantly when any HDMI adapter is connected.
2) There's no difference between makes of adapter or if they're powered.
3) An unblocked Dex capable device starts Dex when it detects an external monitor and becomes a track-pad.
4) People in forums report owning an official cover unlocks the Tab S4 even when the cover is no longer attached.
5) The advice from the official Samsung support is to buy a keyboard cover to enable features.
I'd be be interested in talking to people who have bricked Tab S4 desktops and are about to attach a keyboard for the first time.
I'd also like to know about people who can use Dex on an EXTERNAL MONITOR without buying accessories. When and where were your devices sold?
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Hi,
I have the official keyboard cover, and I have a non official USBC HDMI hub.
I cannot launch dex mode on an external monitor. But it works perfectly in mirroring mode.
This non official USBC HDMI hub works perfectly with my galaxy S9 on dex mode on a external monitor.
I spoke (a lot) with samsung customer service, and I had different answers.... as :
-if it works with the galaxy S9, it should work with galaxy tab S4
-Dex mode will only work with the official samsung usbc hdmi hub (99$)...
-we do not now, because this product is new, so we do not have information...
As a result, I still cannot use my usbc-hdmiu hub, and I do not want to buy another...
Nicolastiss said:
Hi,
I have the official keyboard cover, and I have a non official USBC HDMI hub.
I cannot launch dex mode on an external monitor. But it works perfectly in mirroring mode.
This non official USBC HDMI hub works perfectly with my galaxy S9 on dex mode on a external monitor.
I spoke (a lot) with samsung customer service, and I had different answers.... as :
-if it works with the galaxy S9, it should work with galaxy tab S4
-Dex mode will only work with the official samsung usbc hdmi hub (99$)...
-we do not now, because this product is new, so we do not have information...
As a result, I still cannot use my usbc-hdmiu hub, and I do not want to buy another...
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You need to simply purchase a simple USB-C to HDMI plug. That is it. No $99 USB-C HDMI hub necessary. The one I got was USD$17 from Amazon. You also do not need a cover. I do not have one on my Tab S4 and it plugs into the HDMI and works as a touchpad with DeX on the HDMI monitor. I have zero issues with the inexpensive USB-C to HDMI plug running DeX on the HDMI monitor.
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Usern4m3 said:
As I said, I talked to Samsung support and that is what they said on the matter.
Unlike most people replying here I've actually checked what works and not said random stuff about adaptors.
This is what I know after experimenting with two Dex devices, one of which is a blocked Tab S4.
1) The Tab S4 can run Dex locally, it exits Dex instantly when any HDMI adapter is connected.
2) There's no difference between makes of adapter or if they're powered.
3) An unblocked Dex capable device starts Dex when it detects an external monitor and becomes a track-pad.
4) People in forums report owning an official cover unlocks the Tab S4 even when the cover is no longer attached.
5) The advice from the official Samsung support is to buy a keyboard cover to enable features.
I'd be be interested in talking to people who have bricked Tab S4 desktops and are about to attach a keyboard for the first time.
I'd also like to know about people who can use Dex on an EXTERNAL MONITOR without buying accessories. When and where were your devices sold?
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I got a USB-C to HDMI cable on Amazon for USD$17. No cover, no keyboard needed. And my Tab S4 was purchased from Amazon too. All here in the USA.
hi, you can just use directly --> usb c to hdmi cable
Airfoil said:
So I purchased the Verizon LTE Tab S4. I have a Dex station already set up at the house which works great with my Note 8. However, when I plug my Tab S4 in I get an error stating "Samsung dex not available while cover opened."
Have any other Dex power users run across this? If so, have you figured out a way to disable this limitation?
I'm a soft tpu case kinda person and hate case covers. and so disappointed that I have to drop another $60-$150 for a case just so I can use dex at the house.
Additionally disappointed that they didn't make the tablet screen a keyboard/trackpad for when the HDMI is used for Dex.
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SODIAL USB C Hub, Type C Hub to HDMI, 4 in 1 Combo with 2USB3.0 and PD Multifunction....... on Amazon..... Half the price of official adapter. Samsung Dex works perfectly on 46 inch non smart TV, it is powered with your tab S4 power adapter, and you can attach two external hard drives and mount them with Paragon. Got a brilliant 46 desktop. It was the third adapter I tried and the only one that didn't give me the dreaded message 'Samsung Dex not available while cover opened 'the moment you attach it.
I got my cable yesteday from Amazon. DeX mode works perfectly with it.
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This is the cable I got:
https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B075V5JK36/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I have a USBC to HDMI adapter, and it allows a Note 9 to go into DEX mode. However when I plug a galaxy tab S4 into it, it EXITS Dex mode with the stupid "cover cannot be open" nonsense. This is just craziness. I really really wanted to like DEX, but at this point I have to give up and say, it's a load of marketing rubbish. Samsung: It's not up for you to decide when I want my device in DEX mode. Take a note from Microsoft, they don't tell users when their tablets should be in tablet mode.
BTW, I plugged these galaxy devices into a Samsung thunderbolt monitor j791, Samsung's premier USBC capable monitor, and NOTHING. WTF is this? How can Samsung not even support their own devices through USBC?
Use a magnet and place it near the USB-C connection. This will trick the tablet that the cover is closed.
Have you played with the "Auto start when HDMI is connected" setting?View attachment 4744136
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