What are your guys' thoughts about a unlocked/hacked bootloader on the htc m9? I want to get the m9 as soon as it comes out but I want it to have custom recoveries and such!
Not sure how anyone would really know that at it this point buddy.
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Not sure how anyone would really know that at it this point buddy.
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haha I agree. Just asking for predictions I guess. Like people predicted that the s5 would have locked tight bootloader. Things might be different on the htc side though.
The rumor is that HTC's flagship for next year is codenamed "Hima" rather than M9. As to whether or not it'll be unlockable, it's really hard to say this early on.
I bet it will be unlockable since the other carrier versions will probably be able to be unlocked through htc dev, so my thoughts are yes. I bet within weeks of being released it will be cracked maybe even sooner. Just like the previous versions were, be nice if htc would accidently let it out with nothing ever leading back to them, because it would make a lot of customers happy and customers are who buy their phones verizon may sell them but its the buyers that control how many phones htc sells. Happy buyers = htc making a lot of $$$$
Well dev edition will of course have an unlocked bootloader by default.. I think most other carriers will be unlockable at htcdev like the m7 and m8 have been.. as for verizon, pretty sure unless an exploit is found the best they can hope for is root and thats it.
HolyAngel said:
Well dev edition will of course have an unlocked bootloader by default.. I think most other carriers will be unlockable at htcdev like the m7 and m8 have been.. as for verizon, pretty sure unless an exploit is found the best they can hope for is root and thats it.
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When I tested the Desire 612, the bootloader was unlocked and the device S-OFF, I just couldn't flash a custom recovery because there weren't any devices out there. (That didn't keep me from trying, and ultimately bricking my test device just before we were supposed to send them back.)
You have to know the partition sizes and addresses before you can mess with this stuff.
I'm holding out for an unlocked bootloader on EVERY future phone, not just the M9. Without TWRP, root and custom roms you might as well give up on life and get an iphone.
Upleaks postet some info about the bootloader, but it doesn't reveal much at this point..
https://twitter.com/upleaks/status/568235537015836673
I guess you can unlock with HTC dev website.
But I'm hoping for S-OFF
I'm hoping that there isn't any security except bootloader unlock
n1234d said:
I'm hoping that there isn't any security except bootloader unlock
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Not if it's coming out on Verizon. The Verizon M8 *still* cannot be unlocked on htc.dev, and we're 11 months out at this point.
hgoldner said:
Not if it's coming out on Verizon. The Verizon M8 *still* cannot be unlocked on htc.dev, and we're 11 months out at this point.
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Sad
HTCdev has been allowing unlocked bootloaders for HTC's latest flagships. So hopefully they will keep going with that, I can't see why they wouldn't keep on with that trend.
They better allow the unlock via HTC-dev, this is currently one of the coolest things about HTC. If I can't unlock the bootloader, I'll be much happier sticking with my M8 or waiting for the next device with an easy bootloader unlock.
All HTC devices made after 2011 have unlockable bootloaders, which can be unlocked via HTCDev.com. However, you probably won't get a custom recovery at launch.
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u-wot-m8 said:
All HTC devices made after 2011 have unlockable bootloaders, which can be unlocked via HTCDev.com. However, you probably won't get a custom recovery at launch.
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Thats incorrect verizon doesnt allow it.
the_rooter said:
Thats incorrect verizon doesnt allow it.
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Ah, yes, indeed. I forgot about that. I don't get why they're not allowing it though.
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Ah, yes, indeed. I forgot about that. I don't get why they're not allowing it though.
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Mainly because verizon is verizon. I believe AT&T does also.
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Mainly because verizon is verizon. I believe AT&T does also.
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True, but those who buy ATT/Verizon phones must know the bootloader is locked and they usually pay less for subsidized & nobbled hardware. IMHO they deserve locked bootloaders for supporting ATT/VZW.
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Since I got a whole bunch of PM's regarding this, I decided to make a thread generalizing everything.
Last week, I was denied the ability of unlocking my bootloader a mere hour before getting home I decided to find some other way to free my phone.
A few friends and I pooled together and purchased a JavaCard and the required files to be able to do things like S-OFF, factory unlock, etc.
Everything wont be here till next week (Tuesday/Wednesday) so I won't be able to provide proof and all that until then. However, I will be able to do 5-10 S-OFF's free of charge to any known devs who feel they would be able to use an S-OFF'd phone to provide the community with a public way to unlock our bootloaders/S-OFF etc. To anyone else, I'll be able to do about 250 phones or so via this one card. If anyone wants to talk more about this over PM feel free to contact me.
Edit: To clear up confusion. You CAN unlock your bootloader with S-OFF. You just have to change your CID via fastboot and unlock via HTCDev.
Really looking forward to this. Really tired of Verizon treating customers like ****
Check your PM btw.
If I am unlocked and romd up would s off be useful?
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coldconfession13 said:
If I am unlocked and romd up would s off be useful?
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You can flash custom radios and RUUs with S-OFF. Without it you can't. can also change your CID to use supercid
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If I am unlocked and romd up would s off be useful?
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If you want to flash different radios or change your RUU or something like that then yeah. Look up what S-OFF can do for you .
Can someone explain what a Javacard is? How it works? Does the phone have to be mailed to the person doing it?
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Can someone explain what a Javacard is? How it works? Does the phone have to be mailed to the person doing it?
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A JavaCard is a signed micro SD from HTC with some diag files on it. I'm not quite sure how it works as I don't have it yet . However I do know that I can achieve S-OFF with it so I can change my CID. Which means I can unlock my bootloader .
But yes your phone has to be mailed to whoever has the card.
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Can someone explain what a Javacard is? How it works? Does the phone have to be mailed to the person doing it?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVSGqXn4wX0 That's a video of a Java Card on a One. It has some files on it signed by HTC used by them in factories to mess with the phone.
Cool thanks. One last thing is how come it only has 250 uses? Not complaining just trying to understand.
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Cool thanks. One last thing is how come it only has 250 uses? Not complaining just trying to understand.
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Because it's "credit" based. The card has 500 credits.
S-Off costs 2 credits.
Unlocks cost 1.
Awesome good stuff.
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Cool thanks. One last thing is how come it only has 250 uses? Not complaining just trying to understand.
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From what I can guess it only has a limited number of signatures it can use. Not sure why it works this way.
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From what I can guess it only has a limited number of signatures it can use. Not sure why it works this way.
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I'm going to assume to prevent something like this. Or more so limiting people unlocking other phones.
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I'm going to assume to prevent something like this. Or more so limiting people unlocking other phones.
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You're probably right, It's probably coded into the digital signature used by the phone to validate the card, or at least that's my best guess at what happens.
Possible to reserve a space for when you're up and running and after you've handled any still-locked Devs (who are obviously priority)?
what if we only wanted unlock but had no interest in S-off for now?
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what if we only wanted unlock but had no interest in S-off for now?
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Unlock as in carrier unlock or bootloader unlock?
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Unlock as in carrier unlock or bootloader unlock?
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Bootloader. Everyone on this forum wants boot loader unlock. I think the Verizon HTC One is already carrier unlocked due to the agreements for the 700MHz Verizon purchased. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
I have the same question as crazyg0od33. We can do just unlock right, we don't have to have s-off?
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Bootloader. Everyone on this forum wants boot loader unlock. I'm think the Verizon HTC One is already carrier unlocked due to the agreements for the 700MHz Verizon purchased. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
OP: I have the same question as crazyg0od33. We can do just unlock right, we don't have to have s-off?
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I was referring to carrier unlocks. I forgot about the FCC agreements VZW made. But yeah its only S-OFF. You'd have to get your phone S-OFF'd and then change the CID and unlock via HTCDev.
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I was referring to carrier unlocks. I forgot about the FCC agreements VZW made. But yeah its only S-OFF. You'd have to get your phone S-OFF'd and then change the CID and unlock via HTCDev.
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Oh ok - when I saw 1 credit to unlock I figured it meant you could bootloader unlock with the card and have another credit left over
So I'm subscribed to the Verizon M( forum, there are no ROM posts popping up over there. Just so I'm clear, can roms from this forum be used on a Verizon M9 or no?
Thanx for answering my noob question.
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So I'm subscribed to the Verizon M( forum, there are no ROM posts popping up over there. Just so I'm clear, can roms from this forum be used on a Verizon M9 or no?
Thanx for answering my noob question.
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I have never flashed a custom ROM before but as long as you unlock your bootloader through HTC Dev, you should be good to go
Verizon does not allow bootloader unlock. No root for Verizon until exploit is found
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Verizon does not allow bootloader unlock. No root for Verizon until exploit is found
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Oh wow I wasn't aware of that. I bought the dev edition straight from HTC instead of going through AT&T so that I could avoid all of the carrier bloatware., but I didn't realize that they also lock down the bootloader. Verizon and AT&T are really POS carriers. They either lock you into a 2 year contract for a subsidized phone or make you pay full price for the phone over 12-18 months and then lock down the bootloader so you can't actually own your device. My advice, unless you have Verizon (HTC doesn't sell a CDMA unlocked phone), buy directly from HTC and you can do the bill me later option with Paypal and then just pay for it over a year. We need to stop giving carriers our money until they actually change their ridiculous practices.
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Oh wow I wasn't aware of that. I bought the dev edition straight from HTC instead of going through AT&T so that I could avoid all of the carrier bloatware., but I didn't realize that they also lock down the bootloader. Verizon and AT&T are really POS carriers. They either lock you into a 2 year contract for a subsidized phone or make you pay full price for the phone over 12-18 months and then lock down the bootloader so you can't actually own your device. My advice, unless you have Verizon (HTC doesn't sell a CDMA unlocked phone), buy directly from HTC and you can do the bill me later option with Paypal and then just pay for it over a year. We need to stop giving carriers our money until they actually change their ridiculous practices.
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AT&T phones are easy to unlock the bootloader (choose Other @ htcdev.com) / Only Verizon blocks unlocking
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Oh wow I wasn't aware of that. I bought the dev edition straight from HTC instead of going through AT&T so that I could avoid all of the carrier bloatware., but I didn't realize that they also lock down the bootloader. Verizon and AT&T are really POS carriers. They either lock you into a 2 year contract for a subsidized phone or make you pay full price for the phone over 12-18 months and then lock down the bootloader so you can't actually own your device. My advice, unless you have Verizon (HTC doesn't sell a CDMA unlocked phone), buy directly from HTC and you can do the bill me later option with Paypal and then just pay for it over a year. We need to stop giving carriers our money until they actually change their ridiculous practices.
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what's the difference in paying the carrier for the device over a period of time or giving it all to htc at once? You don't actually think the carriers are going to give you a discount do you?
I will give you that the locked bootloader is annoying I don't believe we're providing enough $$ to verizon to make a difference.
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what's the difference in paying the carrier for the device over a period of time or giving it all to htc at once? You don't actually think the carriers are going to give you a discount do you?
I will give you that the locked bootloader is annoying I don't believe we're providing enough $$ to verizon to make a difference.
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That's the whole point, if you do the ATT Next plan or the equivalent plan for Verizon, you will pay the full price of the phone over 12-18 months (depending on which plan you choose), but they give you a phone with a locked bootloader and a SIM lock. If you go through HTC though, you will pay full price (obviously), but you can opt to do bill me later with PayPal and pay it off over a year with no interest. By going through HTC though, you can get a SIM unlocked phone and if you go with the dev edition, the bootloader comes unlocked (no need to go through HTC Dev). Unfortunately for Verizon users, if you want a CDMA phone that has an unlocked bootloader, then you'd need to buy an unlocked (SIM) HTC One M9 from Sprint and then unlock the bootloader via HTC Dev since HTC doesn't sell CDMA phones themselves. To be honest, I'm never going to buy a carrier branded phone again. They come with too much bloatware, they're sim locked, and you have to wait for the carrier to push software updates. In summary, it's ridiculous that carriers allow you to buy a phone, but not really own it.
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Oh wow I wasn't aware of that. I bought the dev edition straight from HTC instead of going through AT&T so that I could avoid all of the carrier bloatware., but I didn't realize that they also lock down the bootloader. Verizon and AT&T are really POS carriers. They either lock you into a 2 year contract for a subsidized phone or make you pay full price for the phone over 12-18 months and then lock down the bootloader so you can't actually own your device. My advice, unless you have Verizon (HTC doesn't sell a CDMA unlocked phone), buy directly from HTC and you can do the bill me later option with Paypal and then just pay for it over a year. We need to stop giving carriers our money until they actually change their ridiculous practices.
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I bought mine off the HTC website for Verizon and the bl can't be unlocked as far as I know. Lol unless I totally read your post wrong. I do apologize if I did
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I bought mine off the HTC website for Verizon and the bl can't be unlocked as far as I know. Lol unless I totally read your post wrong. I do apologize if I did
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You actually mean you can't? Did you try htcdev?
Balian67 said:
You actually mean you can't? Did you try htcdev?
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Yeah I tried, it's the Verizon model I don't think it's anything different than what you get in store.
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Verizon does not allow bootloader unlock. No root for Verizon until exploit is found
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This looks like an old thread but just to clarify there are exploits we can use a Java Card to unlock just find someone nearest you in the Verizon HTC One M9 Java Card thread. We have s-off and root. (just in case someone new see's this thread)
I'm getting a VZ Pixel XL (hold the "you're buying it from where" comments, please) because I need to move rather quickly from a Note 7 to a less hostile phone. I'm paying full price, so I can avoid VZ's 2-year lockdown via contract. I'm hearing that, even for those that ordered right away from Google, their deliveries are extending into November, and I need a new phone before then (even assuming the reordering process reopened).
Is it possible to put the Stock Google Pixel software on this phone (assuming, if I understand this correctly, that either someone figures out how to unlock the bootloader, or VZ lets me do it, since I own the whole phone)?
I don't fully understand this 'locked bootloader' thing, even though I've been reading XDA for quite a while, so I don't even know if I'll attempt to do this - for now my question is academic. "Can it be done?"
Verizon locked the bootloader and I am not sure if @jcase or @beaups will try to unlock the bootloader. The phone has yet to be released. It has HTC drivers and we will in the near future find out if it can be unlocked or not. Jcase mentioned to buy the google phone from google if you want unlocked bootloader.
Right now, if you want a solid unlockable/rootable Verizon phone get a HTC 10, either unlocked do s-off and convert or buy Verizon and s-off it.
Verizon Pixel will NOT be unlockable, odds of it getting unlocked is unknown.
You won't be able to flash teh Google edition firmware without s-off/unlock, which it is unkown if we will see that.
Thanks for the information. It's not crucial that I put the Google software in it - more of a curious question for me. The few times I rooted a phone was to install BusyBox or Titanium; I really didn't fully exploit what root can do, lest I create a brick.
Given that I need to get into something *right now*, I can put up with VZW's, er, 'idiosyncrasies' to get what I want right away, and out of the Note 7.
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Thanks for the information. It's not crucial that I put the Google software in it - more of a curious question for me. The few times I rooted a phone was to install BusyBox or Titanium; I really didn't fully exploit what root can do, lest I create a brick.
Given that I need to get into something *right now*, I can put up with VZW's, er, 'idiosyncrasies' to get what I want right away, and out of the Note 7.
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The Pixel you buy from Verizon has the "google software" . The only two differences it has from the one sold directly from Google is a locked bootloader and several Verizon apps that can be uninstalled. The locked bootloader will prevent you from installing custom software or rooting.
Didn't the Nexus 6 purchased from Google direct come with a locked bootloader? Same as the one bought from Verizon direct. What makes anyone think the Pixel will be any different? They all come locked....
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Didn't the Nexus 6 purchased from Google direct come with a locked bootloader? Same as the one bought from Verizon direct. What makes anyone think the Pixel will be any different? They all come locked....
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perhaps this.
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Didn't the Nexus 6 purchased from Google direct come with a locked bootloader? Same as the one bought from Verizon direct. What makes anyone think the Pixel will be any different? They all come locked....
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All bootloaders are locked when shipped. The difference is the Verizon bootloader will be encrypted, rendering it unlockable without the key.
It was all just an illusion
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Right now, if you want a solid unlockable/rootable Verizon phone get a HTC 10, either unlocked do s-off and convert or buy Verizon and s-off it.
Verizon Pixel will NOT be unlockable, odds of it getting unlocked is unknown.
You won't be able to flash teh Google edition firmware without s-off/unlock, which it is unkown if we will see that.
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@jcase what are the odds of both the Google sold Pixel and VZW sold Pixel having the exact same hardware and software out of the box and then the process of activating either phone on VZW is what renders the bootloader not unlockable (not sure if this is even possible), pushes the bloat from the play store (that can be done) and controls the software update process (this can be done as well)?
If this is true, then buying a Pixel from VZW and activating it on a non-VZW network would be the equivalent of buying it from Google.
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perhaps this.
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Yeah I don't see that as evidence until it's in hand. We all know nobody at Verizon that we have ever talked to has ever understood the difference between carrier lock and bootloader lock. At this point it's all speculation because a Verizon rep isn't a reliable source.
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Yeah I don't see that as evidence until it's in hand. We all know nobody at Verizon that we have ever talked to has ever understood the difference between carrier lock and bootloader lock. At this point it's all speculation because a Verizon rep isn't a reliable source.
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I have the evidence in hand, I've been studying the firmware for weeks
Does anybody think that vzw will block features in their phones that will not be in a Google bought phone?
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Hey guys,
So one of us had to sacrifice themself and it had to be me. I bought the z2 play from motos site and it came stock with the verizon logo and all. It came in from Wuhan, China built on demand and sent to my address in the usa. I got it about 10 minutes ago, followed the unlockbootloader protocol from moto and bam.....not unlockable. So don't waste your time folks. Unless you wanna deal with india reps for an hour to return it or well I'm still on the phone. So cheers! And you're welcome.
You really thought a Motorola phone specifically for the Verizon network would have an unlockable bootloader? Lol.
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is it rootable?
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You really thought a Motorola phone specifically for the Verizon network would have an unlockable bootloader? Lol.
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I'd agree with you but I am pretty sure there was a Verizon-specific Nexus 6 and it was bootloader unlockable.
Yes, I know it was a Nexus, and yes I know it was pretty much the same as the unlocked version... but there was still a VZW version of the phone. Just saying its not 100% though.
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I'd agree with you but I am pretty sure there was a Verizon-specific Nexus 6 and it was bootloader unlockable.
Yes, I know it was a Nexus, and yes I know it was pretty much the same as the unlocked version... but there was still a VZW version of the phone. Just saying its not 100% though.
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Like you said, it was a Nexus. Has there been a Nexus that didn't have an unlockable bootloader? Don't think so. Name the last Motorola phone specifically for Verizon that wasn't a developer edition that you could unlock the bootloader out of the box. I'm pretty damn sure there aren't any. The 2015 Moto X Pure Edition is the closest thing to it but it wasn't a Verizon specific phone. It was simply one that worked on the Verizon network. OP is still foolish for even dreaming about a Verizon/Moto phone with an unlocked bootloader.
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You really thought a Motorola phone specifically for the Verizon network would have an unlockable bootloader? Lol.
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My last phone was verizon and it was. So yes it can happen. But I have been rooting since the droid line came out. But youre welcome. I mean if people don't test things out then how could you know? I think it is more stupid to assume. Right now I switched to the g5 plus and I like it and yes its a moto. Not verizon but a moto and it works on verz
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is it rootable?
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No but the one coming out that international is rootable.
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My last phone was verizon and it was. So yes it can happen. But I have been rooting since the droid line came out. But youre welcome. I mean if people don't test things out then how could you know? I think it is more stupid to assume. Right now I switched to the g5 plus and I like it and yes its a moto. Not verizon but a moto and it works on verz
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Your last Motorola Droid phone had an officially unlockable bootloader? Since the Droid line came out? You should have known that Droid phones don't have unlockable bootloaders unless they are developer edition models. Bro, you're not a hero. Only a fool buys a phone to test for an unlocked bootloader then tries to return it when he can't. There are loads of people that have bought the phone that would like an unlocked bootloader that can test it but plan on keeping it either way. You wasted time and money for nothing.
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Wait what about other regions? does India/International versions are locked too. ?
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Name the last Motorola phone specifically for Verizon that wasn't a developer edition that you could unlock the bootloader out of the box.
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Droid 1
PiousInquisitor said:
Like you said, it was a Nexus. Has there been a Nexus that didn't have an unlockable bootloader? Don't think so. Name the last Motorola phone specifically for Verizon that wasn't a developer edition that you could unlock the bootloader out of the box. I'm pretty damn sure there aren't any. The 2015 Moto X Pure Edition is the closest thing to it but it wasn't a Verizon specific phone. It was simply one that worked on the Verizon network. OP is still foolish for even dreaming about a Verizon/Moto phone with an unlocked bootloader.
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Technically yes, there has been a nexus without an unlockable bootloader. Pixel is basically nexus - and it is locked on Verizon. Thank you OP, I was just about to try this myself. Back to the N6P I go
Train88 said:
Technically yes, there has been a nexus without an unlockable bootloader. Pixel is basically nexus - and it is locked on Verizon. Thank you OP, I was just about to try this myself. Back to the N6P I go
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Thanks to the op for sharing their experience. Not sure how useful some of the snarky replies are.
I posted this elsewhere but I will post it here too since this is a thread about unlocked bootloaders - the unlocked Moto Z2 Play lists its Verizon compatible.
My thoughts exactly. I'm hoping to purchase the unlocked version when it's available, root / unlock bootloader, then pop in my Verizon Sim.
cantsingh said:
My thoughts exactly. I'm hoping to purchase the unlocked version when it's available, root / unlock bootloader, then pop in my Verizon Sim.
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They are available now on the Lenovo/Motorola website for preorder. I have the same idea as you. Tentative delivery is August 18th for me.
RedWingsFanEd said:
They are available now on the Lenovo/Motorola website for preorder. I have the same idea as you. Tentative delivery is August 18th for me.
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Any update?
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Any update?
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Stuck in the build phase with no delivery on the 18th. Keep checking on line in faint hope it will speed up.
RedWingsFanEd said:
Stuck in the build phase with no delivery on the 18th. Keep checking on line in faint hope it will speed up.
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Sorry man.
What carrier do you have?
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Sorry man.
What carrier do you have?
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Verizon. That was why I waited for the unlocked version so I can root it and keep all my toys
The title about says it all. I'm on an AT&T business plan via work and we get our choice of upgrades every 18 months or so. I'm trying to plan my next upgrade. Just curious if there is anything at all that is either a developer edition or something with an unlockable bootloader. Sure I know the answer already but figured I'd check anyway! Even if it is hackable to get unlock I'd love to know. Thanks!
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The title about says it all. I'm on an AT&T business plan via work and we get our choice of upgrades every 18 months or so. I'm trying to plan my next upgrade. Just curious if there is anything at all that is either a developer edition or something with an unlockable bootloader. Sure I know the answer already but figured I'd check anyway! Even if it is hackable to get unlock I'd love to know. Thanks!
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Could you please write to me as for a child what is it about?
I guess I'm stupid because I didn't understand anything.
ze7zez said:
Could you please write to me as for a child what is it about?
I guess I'm stupid because I didn't understand anything.
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Most carriers sell phones with bootloaders that cannot be unlocked. Sometimes though there are hacks/exploits to get access and unlock a bootloader that cannot be unlocked. Usually if one wants a bootloader unlockable phone they have to buy directly from Google (or Best Buy or Amazon or other retailer that sells fully unlocked devices). An unlockable bootloader allows you to customize software on your device and make it run or do the things you want. Carriers don't like that ... quite frankly IMHO it's 100% about monetization of you, the product. If you are interested, stay FAR away from Samsung stuff. None of it is unlockable here in the states without an exploit (correct me if I'm wrong).
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Most carriers sell phones with bootloaders that cannot be unlocked. Sometimes though there are hacks/exploits to get access and unlock a bootloader that cannot be unlocked. Usually if one wants a bootloader unlockable phone they have to buy directly from Google (or Best Buy or Amazon or other retailer that sells fully unlocked devices). An unlockable bootloader allows you to customize software on your device and make it run or do the things you want. Carriers don't like that ... quite frankly IMHO it's 100% about monetization of you, the product. If you are interested, stay FAR away from Samsung stuff. None of it is unlockable here in the states without an exploit (correct me if I'm wrong).
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This post is obvious, but ...
Did I understand correctly from the first post that you work for AT&T and would like to break the locks on phones ordered from manufacturers for the employer/client?
ctradio said:
The title about says it all. I'm on an AT&T business plan via work and we get our choice of upgrades every 18 months or so. I'm trying to plan my next upgrade. Just curious if there is anything at all that is either a developer edition or something with an unlockable bootloader. Sure I know the answer already but figured I'd check anyway! Even if it is hackable to get unlock I'd love to know. Thanks!
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See if they have a Pixel or Xaomi and you have a prayer. Other options would be talking a majority of CO workers into T Mobile stage a rebellion over phones they give you cuz they spy on you. Let freedom reign!