I have very little android development experience. Still learning. My cousin is working on a website , dont think he wants me sharing to much info about about it , basically its a family tree site , will allow a user to make a tree and u can make additional user for viewing for friends and family. He wants me to make a app for it , my main question is , how do people usually make a app for their websites. Is it they just make a app with a browser that opens the site if so then whats the point of a app when i can just make a mobile version. He really doesnt want to do that . is it possible to make the app from scratch , i make the layout and link it to our database that fills in the data from which ever user logs in , what i mean is i just dont want to make an app that basically opens up the browser and show the mobile site or an app browser . can you please shed some light. Thank you , and sorry for the essay and any typos ,using my phone to type
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I have very little android development experience. Still learning. My cousin is working on a website , dont think he wants me sharing to much info about about it , basically its a family tree site , will allow a user to make a tree and u can make additional user for viewing for friends and family. He wants me to make a app for it , my main question is , how do people usually make a app for their websites. Is it they just make a app with a browser that opens the site if so then whats the point of a app when i can just make a mobile version. He really doesnt want to do that . is it possible to make the app from scratch , i make the layout and link it to our database that fills in the data from which ever user logs in , what i mean is i just dont want to make an app that basically opens up the browser and show the mobile site or an app browser . can you please shed some light. Thank you , and sorry for the essay and any typos ,using my phone to type
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You can definitely make an app that uses the same database, but if you have very little Android development experience perhaps you should start with a smaller and simpler project? It's a lot to learn.
Web app or Native app both fine
If your product doesn't use too many feature on the phone, the Web app could be good since maybe you can share resources with the desktop Web version. This may also accelerate the development cycle. However, if your are going to use some native phone feature, then, the Native app would be your choice...
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how about making the default xda-dev forum http://forum.xda-developers.com/index.php open in low bandwidth version.
the page is too big to open on a mobile device.
is there a trick i can do with the cookies to always get the low badwidth version? i get the low badwidth version but it seems random
Is this the low bandwidth version you're talking about? Because you could always just make that your mobile homepage, or a favorite. You could even go to Tinyurl.com and make a shortcut like, for example, tinyurl.com/XDA-M, so it would be easy to enter in your mobile browser.
Dave
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Is this the low bandwidth version you're talking about? Because you could always just make that your mobile homepage, or a favorite. You could even go to Tinyurl.com and make a shortcut like, for example, tinyurl.com/XDA-M, so it would be easy to enter in your mobile browser.
Dave
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Very good idea...i never even thought about doing this even though ive had the resources xD thanks
Here you go everyone!
http://tinyurl.com/xdalowres xda+low+res
I am trying to see if anybody in this thread would like to start developing a beginning to a Windows Phone "Jailbreak App store" meaning that the whole cummunity of homebrew apps could all be in one place. As I am aware to jailbreak ios and install "Cydia" you must hold the power and home button in a certain order. Since all Windows phones have the power button, unlock, and volume I think that this could work if a similar process like what is done in ios will be done with windows phone since they are both closed source operating systems. I am not a developer I truely dont know all the details of how something like this could work. I am asking if the whole Windows phone cummunity could work together and get this going.
Thanks
Maybe XDA-DEV could manage the server so it would grow fastly if every dev who post his app in the thread automaticly to the appstore but only final realeases or only apps who cant brick the device. Cool idea but to let a server work cost money and who pays it ?
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Maybe XDA-DEV could manage the server so it would grow fastly if every dev who post his app in the thread automaticly to the appstore but only final realeases or only apps who cant brick the device. Cool idea but to let a server work cost money and who pays it ?
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The whole Windows Phone cummunity could pay for the servers together. Maybe there could be some awesome paid homebrew apps in there that could supply money for the server.
Xda doesn't support piracy.
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I don't support the "crack paid apps" either.
My ideas for these "alternative marketplace" is for those developers/hobbies to make their apps and allow others to use it.
I don't mind the "homebrew" apps is chargable, coz if you look at some apps in Cydia, it also have some apps which chargable due to that app is rejected by Apple.
Same thing goes here. M$ need developer to pay USD99 to get an account, with each FREE apps posted charge for USD25! This will highly PUSH away the developers.
Further more, NOT all regions/countries are supported by M$ marketplace (like my country are not).
So this is a good alternative for developers to post their app.
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Xda doesn't support piracy.
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he ment a WP7 Version of CYDIA
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he ment a WP7 Version of CYDIA
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Thanks this is to be a WP7 cydia no piracy involved at all. I am trying to get this started and hoping that we start somewhere.
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I don't support the "crack paid apps" either.
My ideas for these "alternative marketplace" is for those developers/hobbies to make their apps and allow others to use it.
I don't mind the "homebrew" apps is chargable, coz if you look at some apps in Cydia, it also have some apps which chargable due to that app is rejected by Apple.
Same thing goes here. M$ need developer to pay USD99 to get an account, with each FREE apps posted charge for USD25! This will highly PUSH away the developers.
Further more, NOT all regions/countries are supported by M$ marketplace (like my country are not).
So this is a good alternative for developers to post their app.
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Since i want this to be cummunity thing and want to push this forward and i forgot to mention these advantages with an alternative marketplace also.
actuly we have one in develpment alredy!
actuly we have one in develpment alredy!
we are curently making it only for cab updates but i dont see why we couldent impement this
as me and winco are alredy working on wcabsender and he has alredy made beta version of W.I.N.C.O.'s XapAssistant v.0.5.0
we have to make web server for cab files and such anyway i dont see why xaps would be any diffrent why pay more than one server when we could just have one and let it self make money!??
i gess pm me with detales if you like i will look them over!
seams like a nice alternitive
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actuly we have one in develpment alredy!
we are curently making it only for cab updates but i dont see why we couldent impement this
as me and winco are alredy working on wcabsender and he has alredy made beta version of W.I.N.C.O.'s XapAssistant v.0.5.0
we have to make web server for cab files and such anyway i dont see why xaps would be any diffrent why pay more than one server when we could just have one and let it self make money!??
i gess pm me with detales if you like i will look them over!
seams like a nice alternitive
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This is a GOOD NEWS!
I wish to see it work soon.
jackrabbit72380 said:
actuly we have one in develpment alredy!
we are curently making it only for cab updates but i dont see why we couldent impement this
as me and winco are alredy working on wcabsender and he has alredy made beta version of W.I.N.C.O.'s XapAssistant v.0.5.0
we have to make web server for cab files and such anyway i dont see why xaps would be any diffrent why pay more than one server when we could just have one and let it self make money!??
i gess pm me with detales if you like i will look them over!
seams like a nice alternitive
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This is great news I would like for some of the developers to take over this.
anyone want to just start and alternative marketplace for homebrew and everything else?
Sounds like an amazing idea. Microsoft don't allow apps that promote voice plans, would be nice to have an alternative store to list a full version of my app (it allows you to buy and remove value packs for 2° of which some are voice packs)
I am / was working on a homebrew Marketplace aswell. The listing and downloading of XAPs is not the problem. You just Need a small search algorithm and a database to search and find the apps but the big Problem is installing them. Unless you have the DFT (I guess it was them) ROM that allows XAPs installed directly from the web, you wont be able to install any XAP on the device.
Cool thats my 111th post
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I am / was working on a homebrew Marketplace aswell. The listing and downloading of XAPs is not the problem. You just Need a small search algorithm and a database to search and find the apps but the big Problem is installing them. Unless you have the DFT (I guess it was them) ROM that allows XAPs installed directly from the web, you wont be able to install any XAP on the device.
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You are right! This the biggest issue!
I guess I could start working on the Store again. I guess it will be done in a few days.
Will allow downloading XAPs, updating them, browsing them. The installing part would have to be made by one of the WP7 hackers - as soon as this is sorted out (as said, it partly is) the store can go online
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not realy an issue because the wcabsender program we are working on
will have an esaly updateable data base of servers listed for cab files the list will be a file called CabData.xml wich we are curently wrighing
it curently contains links to all of xbmods cab files so the program will download and up date your phone and make the hole process very simple
insted of downloading them one buy one and usein wp7 cab sender,bat file
anyway teh cabs can contain up to 60 .xap files and or other content not just apps but content for custom updates to actuly modify the os it self!
users are alredy able to make custom updates much like a carrer would adding addisional features such as new wallpapers ring tones accent colors and even more!
so say we had a new custom game.cab that would incluude not only the new game .xap but also new ringtones & walpapers and assents from teh game or even custom icons for your default icons so your hole phone could look like the new game you just got sorta like premeum themes for on the xbox360 dashbord!
the store is made up of servers from he list and auto updated and loged with in the program you could tecnicly upload your xap to anyware and simple send me the url to add to the server list right now and the store would be opened at teh time of beta relese of our program! our program is close to beta relese but we still have much work to be done on it if you want to get involved please pm me i have more art to do and winco has more code to wright we do not curently even have all of the online avalible cab urls listed in the CabData.xml thare are curently about 10 just for testing!
we ar the only to people working on this project with the okay from xbmod as he is aware of what weare up to but im in the us and winco is in slovika and dose not speak good english infact has to translate everyhang i send him and he dosent get most of my notes teh hole consept was thought up of teh back to the future rom v2 and winco has never even seen teh move he dosent quite grasp teh consept but has managed to make the program a reality not theamed exactly how i had in mind but never the less my idia is now a reality soon to be relesed we could realy use some help with a couple more members on bord we could surely use the help! to get thangs done and out quicker we both have other projects as well and we are both in difrent time zones wich makes thangs even more diffucult winco dosent have time to browse teh forms or post updates like i do!
hes just to bizzy and to be honist so am i!
the offical wcabsender development thread is in the hd2 section please post thare! or pm me! if you have any talent services or advice to offer!
link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1278511
But that Thing is on the Desktop side, right?
Most (atlease for me) would like to see the xap file direct install thru air to the phone, instead of go thru the desktop.
ofc, but if I got their idea right its a Desktop app that allows sending CABs to the phone
I'll keep this as simple as possible.
First:
my coding experience is that of a Kindergartners. I'm sure at this rate if i want to get anything done i may need to hire someone.
However, i would still like to learn.
SO MY QUESTION:
Is it possible to make an app that pretty much is just a website?
For example, the app would essentially be the website. I.e rather than go to m.Facebook.com you would be downloading Facebook App.
However the only difference would be that one is via an app and one is via the mobile browser. No feature difference. nothing.
I think of it as a "Drag and Drop" you take the website and drop it into the 'framework' of an app.
it must be possible, if so. How? is there a tutorial? or is someone willing to explain this?
I Do know exactly what i want done, so if you're super educated with something like this i am willing to pay a small amount for the app.
Or if you want to know more about exactly what i want message me.
Of corse it is possible - that's what a Web App is.
Take a look at developer.android.com/guide/webapps/index.html
Basically, you just toss your web stuff (html, css, javascript, ...) inside an app acting as native wrapper and displaying your content through a Web View.
But if your app is just ment to be an identical copy of your website, I would not advise it:
WebViews are not exactly state-of-the art, and may show little inconsistencies or behave differently than mobile browsers
Every time you update a single file on your website you need to release an update for the app as well - unless you leave your content on the web and the app loads it remotely, but that would mean a very slow app
Web Apps are tipically a choice when you need to target multiple platforms (android, ios, ...) at once or when you want to fast-prototype an app and you're more skilled at html development than Android.
Unless, of course, you have other specific reasons to build an app for your website.
There is also another way to make your website look like an app (at least, for those using Chrome Mobile):
developers.google.com/chrome/mobile/docs/installtohomescreen
Mobile App Developers
Yes for sure.. We can convert an website into app. This is all covered in Mobile App Developers work...
Yes, of course. Use PhoneGap
Hi,
of course, that's possible. All you have to do is try out PhoneGap. Use google to find it.
I did not use it before, because I like native apps without any "gaps" between. But for a quick'n'dirt hack you will find it usefull, I think.
The site says:
Easily create apps using the web technologies you know and love: HTML, CSS, and JavaScript
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Please provide the code
Sure. It is just what phonegap can do for you.
sensislee said:
Sure. It is just what phonegap can do for you.
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Do we need to pay Phonegap for Code?
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snowsunil said:
Do we need to pay Phonegap for Code?
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No, as I know, Phonegap is open source and free.
Dear XDA friend,
The App needed Good name and Beta testing
The Application is friend of mine.... Who is doing Bachelor of Engineering in Information Technology; India( Chennai ) I guided him to made first android application.
After 4-months he came with amazing application for ANDROID, but he is confused what should be the name of the application. He is asking me, what should I name it.. After look at the app really am also confused, as I know the best place is XDA to find any thing.. Here I require all the XDA member to use the application and share your view about the app and what can I suggest him to name the application.. ..
Here am posting a Apk (Which we are not able to decided the Application Name) We need XDA user help to name the application.
Apk link : https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.newz.businesscassifree&hl=en
Application Description : The Classifieds is the ultimate Android app only showing the absolute best and most popular websites in many different categories.
Aim of the application : is make human life fast, fastest and faster, your search on the internet easy and fast. The most popular search engines arranged together in one - easy to use - search box. A refreshingly fast way to search online!
Very Fast and light weight Global news, If you want to stay up to date with what happens in your country and use as little time as possible, then this app is what you need!
If you wish to Add any website which is not presented in the application, share the website name and reason why it should be there.. We can promise you the website XDA users sharing it will be live in 5 Business days.. (Condition Apply's)
New
Shopping
Travel
Sports
Finance & Biz
Career & Edu
Home & Garden
Social & Blog
Auto & Motor
Games
Movies & TV
Music & Video
Info & Reference
Food & Cooking
Computer & Tech
Mobile & Phone
Mail & ISP
Health & Beauty
Photo
Fashion
Blogs
Etc
Please click THANKS button if you wish to support my work..
Good
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Have you tested
I'm going to change the app into Flip-board+ with adfree too
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Good
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Avaliation
Is a good app but i think need another logo!
What apps you are creating all are non-seance as per my view. You are calling BETA Testers for promoting your app.
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What apps you are creating all are non-seance as per my view. You are calling BETA Testers for promoting your app.
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Just go out @Sanskarsuman from his threads .
You are only giving critics while he is just helping his friend to test his app.
And jack sparrow you are doing good on this forum keep your contribution coming !
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name??
what about "faster" an app which drives you through your life in whatever you do!
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Hello, I have a question on Android development. Personally, I know web development but I do not know JAVA programming because I am not into software development.
I want to develop an android app by using HTML5, CSS3 and JQuery Mobile. The app will be simple, it will be just an app on poetry where users will click some categories and read poems, and also search. That's all. It will be free, no registration, no ads and no server side. I want to use JQuery Mobile for this or even pure HTML5 and CSS3. In fact, HTML and CSS will be used of course.
Bear in ind that I am NOT converting an existing website into an app, but rather creating an app through HTML, CSS and JavaScript. So, the Web View tool is not appropriate here.
My questions are:
1/ Can we really create an APK with obly HTML, CSS or JavaScript?
2/ If we can create, what software (which is free) can I use to create the APK by compiling/converting my web pages?
Thank!
ali20142014 said:
Hello, I have a question on Android development. Personally, I know web development but I do not know JAVA programming because I am not into software development.
I want to develop an android app by using HTML5, CSS3 and JQuery Mobile. The app will be simple, it will be just an app on poetry where users will click some categories and read poems, and also search. That's all. It will be free, no registration, no ads and no server side. I want to use JQuery Mobile for this or even pure HTML5 and CSS3. In fact, HTML and CSS will be used of course.
Bear in ind that I am NOT converting an existing website into an app, but rather creating an app through HTML, CSS and JavaScript. So, the Web View tool is not appropriate here.
My questions are:
1/ Can we really create an APK with obly HTML, CSS or JavaScript?
2/ If we can create, what software (which is free) can I use to create the APK by compiling/converting my web pages?
Thank!
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You'll need to go through the (sometimes painful) installation of Eclipse/Android Developer Tools and the Android SDK...
https://developer.android.com/sdk/installing/bundle.html
After that you can then do exactly what you are asking for with this...
http://cordova.apache.org/
I'm using that technology to create professional apps (as in, commercial apps for customers) using HTML5 & CSS, Javascript, jQuery and I opt for Bootstrap over jQuery Mobile as it's a lot lighter, but jQuery Mobile works fine with it too.
There's also PhoneGap, but that's just a rebranding of Cordova at the moment. They may branch out in different directions at some point, but at the moment there's no difference. The only advantage to PhoneGap is that you can point it at your source on GitHub and it will build online for you. Very handy if you want to do pure online development, but a bit messy.
Thank you for replying. I think I will try with the PhoneGap and Eclipse as you suggested. I have other questions:
1/ Even the APK will be developed using just HTML, CSS and JavaScript, how to notify the user an update is available through a notification method? I am not asking for tutorials, but just the steps.
2/ As you know, to view the source code of a website, a user will right click and view. As the APK will be developed using client side languages, will they be able to view the source codes in any other way apart decompiling?
ali20142014 said:
Thank you for replying. I think I will try with the PhoneGap and Eclipse as you suggested. I have other questions:
1/ Even the APK will be developed using just HTML, CSS and JavaScript, how to notify the user an update is available through a notification method? I am not asking for tutorials, but just the steps.
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Your best bet is to let Google Play Store do all that for you. It means paying for a developer account, but it's not expensive and it means that people can get your app from the Play Store, which looks a lot more credible than a link and instructions how to allow 3rd party apps. Also, you push an update to the Play Store, and that pushes the update to all your users. You can't really ask for better than that.
ali20142014 said:
2/ As you know, to view the source code of a website, a user will right click and view. As the APK will be developed using client side languages, will they be able to view the source codes in any other way apart decompiling?
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They can't do anything as simple as "View source" as all the files are embedded in the application, but they can decompile it and get at your source that way, but there's nothing to stop someone doing that with an APK anyway. They best thing would be to develop your app till your happy with it, and then obfuscate the crap out of the html, css & js files. Sure someone could decompile the app and get your source, but they'd really struggle to do anything with it.
Have a play with it and see if it's any good for you. It really does make it simple for a developer with web experience to make apps.
Also, if this is of any use, I made a guide for developing and building Phonegap Android apps purely online, without any SDK or IDE installation. It's not ideal as debugging would be a nightmare. I mostly made it as reference for myself, but check it out anyway...
http://johncmolyneux.blogspot.co.uk/2014/05/how-to-build-android-apps-online.html
Sorry for the late reply. Can I know where is the APK file is stored?
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Sorry for the late reply. Can I know where is the APK file is stored?
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/data/app/packagename-1.apk
You tube is your friend
Just do a youtube search with these key words "html5 webview android" and you should be able to find everything you need to know on how to build your html5 powered app
Google offers a "ProGuard" solution on how to mask your code by obfuscation. Good luck!
You can also use phonegap build to build your web apps without using eclipse.
You can't make an app using HTML and all these web developing languages but you can simply make a responsive website (I hope you know that) and then integrate that website into the android app. You may also add something like that once a user opens app once his app will connect to your website and then download the files offline for future offline use.
You can make fully functional games and apps with HTML + Javascript. Once you learn a the basic's you can use the framework I posted here to make a quiz game. As you learn more you can make small puzzle games and action games but that takes time to learn. Start by using this framework to build a game.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2785378
And if you dont know how to use eclipse then use phonegap build it will build the game for you and the 1st game is free with their service.
Sorry, just saw this now... i could have saved you a bit of hassle
If you really dont want to make a deep dive and stay with your current skills theres a really great way to do so (no, im not involed in the project and wanna advertise it i just use it and love it).
Theres really great tool from Intel, named Intel XDK. This thingy lets you easyly use either the Intel based framework (thats really fast and depending on how you "build" the app at the end you get native code, not just an simple AKP that displays content in a webview.).
The above mentioned Cordova is also a build option, so if you already learned about that, you can still use it in here. You can also make the userinterface of your app in a drag&drop IDE that saves you TONS of time.
Check here for some easy examples:
http://app-framework-software.intel.com/components.php
The very best comes at the end, you dont have to care ONE BIT about installing anything on your machine, all build stuff is done on Intel servers. You code the app, decide on a way to build it (Cordova, Android, iOS or whatever) and you get an APK out of it. Whats more, you can test/debug directly on device, in browser or any other possible way.
If you dont want to learn the appfraework (whats is basically just like jquery, you dont really have to "learn" it if your familiar with javascript) or use other known frameworks like jQuery mobile. Best is, you can still use the IDE-Designer even with jQuery. So you can for example choose jquerymobile framework and but in a nvigation layout just with drag&drop. Of course you als have a standard Code-View with autocompletion and all if you want.
Take alook, its awesome...
The reason why i post this here that tere is one flaw (in my opinion), the documentation is not the best (its there of course, full API guides and all) and the Intel foum is not really active, since noone really knows about it it seems. If more ppl use it the community could be great and starters have a really easy tool at hand to get into the world of mobile-development.
Hi,
You can create an Android app using the HTML, CSS, JavaScript by PhoneGap. PhoneGap is a free and open source framework that allows you to create mobile apps using standardized web APIs for the platforms you care about. You can learn it at: phonegap.com
Good luck!
Website 2 APK Builder
The all new Website 2 APK Builder for Windows is now available at sourceforge.
as i'm new and can't post external links,
so i'm unable to provide a link of it,
try searching "Website 2 APK Builder" on Google.
Just Launched Yesterday,
that's all.
Easy to use,
Generates ad-free apps.
and available for offline use.
Give it a try.
Oboy
oboy
If you're planning on making a update thingy like that basically use github for that where you have a text file and test for the version every time the app launches with window.onload in JS
ali20142014 said:
Hello, I have a question on Android development. Personally, I know web development but I do not know JAVA programming because I am not into software development.
I want to develop an android app by using HTML5, CSS3 and JQuery Mobile. The app will be simple, it will be just an app on poetry where users will click some categories and read poems, and also search. That's all. It will be free, no registration, no ads and no server side. I want to use JQuery Mobile for this or even pure HTML5 and CSS3. In fact, HTML and CSS will be used of course.
Bear in ind that I am NOT converting an existing website into an app, but rather creating an app through HTML, CSS and JavaScript. So, the Web View tool is not appropriate here.
My questions are:
1/ Can we really create an APK with obly HTML, CSS or JavaScript?
2/ If we can create, what software (which is free) can I use to create the APK by compiling/converting my web pages?
Thank!
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I'm not sure if it's still a question for you but maybe try to search some helpful articles on this subject? They are usually easy to read and you'll an understanding of what you need to do.
we can create an APK with only HTML, CSS or JavaScript through new frameworks
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