Main question really is, how much do you guys estimate the 360 II will be? I am considering buying the 360, but want the next gen when it comes out. Problem is, my price max is $250 >.< should I buy the first gen or wait till the second?
Would depend on your expectations. I've had mine for two months now and am very satisfied, despite it being a version one and all.
With the latest update, I'm stunned to get as low as 2% drain per hour. As always, if you get tons of notifications and you keep looking at the time, YMMV.
I turn it off every night, so with my average drain during actual use, I am able to get at least three days with every charge.
I think Motorola has already optimized battery consumption and I don't think there will be a miracle with battery technology that will be revealed at the CES next week. Truth is, the only way to improve battery life on smart watches would be to put bigger capacity ones, which is anathema to most. I wouldn't mind having a chunkier watch chassis myself, with my predilection for robust looking mechanical watches of old, but I don't think that would be the way to go as far as smart watch makers think since that would lessen their appeal to women or people with small wrists.
I say if you can afford it, now is as good a time as any to jump right in - the water's fine.
I just purchased the LG G Watch R last week, and am happy as well with its manlier vibe, it looking like a traditional chunky sports watch. It has a beefier 400ma battery and I average a little below 2% drain per hour with it. I alternate between the Moto and the LG everyday, do I end up charging both only once a week since I turn each off at night.
As for the next versions, I'm thinking Motorola and LG will likely announce their next versions not during the CES next week, but most likely by spring, and then release by summer onwards. The two watches are still new and it wouldn't make business sense to dampen demand for these in the interim.
I find myself in the same situation as you. I can't really say how much the 2nd gen 360 will cost -- most likely its price tag will be based on what Samsung, Asus, LG price their watches.
I expect the 2nd gen line of android wear watches to come out in 2015. What I plan to do is to wait until the next gen is released. If there's not much improvement in terms of design, batt life etc., then i might go for the 1st gen 360, its price will most likely drop significantly when 2nd gen is released.
Also, i want to point out that the batt life for the 360 in particular can be improved by using a LED screen instead of LCD one, and upgrading the TI OMAP processor to a more modern, battery-conserving one.
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The 360(V2) won't see the street until the end of summer assuming that they release it around a year after the original. So you have to ask yourself if you really want to wait. If price is an issue the price for a used 360 will probably be at or below $100 after the new one is released. So will the next version be worth the extra $150 or so, especially when cost is a driving factor?
I don't think the next version will be that more expensive than the current version since Moto has been moving them at a good rate.
I think the hardest part for you is the wait for the next version... can you do it? If not, just run out and pick one up.
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Would depend on your expectations. I've had mine for two months now and am very satisfied, despite it being a version one and all.
With the latest update, I'm stunned to get as low as 2% drain per hour. As always, if you get tons of notifications and you keep looking at the time, YMMV.
I turn it off every night, so with my average drain during actual use, I am able to get at least three days with every charge.
I think Motorola has already optimized battery consumption and I don't think there will be a miracle with battery technology that will be revealed at the CES next week. Truth is, the only way to improve battery life on smart watches would be to put bigger capacity ones, which is anathema to most. I wouldn't mind having a chunkier watch chassis myself, with my predilection for robust looking mechanical watches of old, but I don't think that would be the way to go as far as smart watch makers think since that would lessen their appeal to women or people with small wrists.
I say if you can afford it, now is as good a time as any to jump right in - the water's fine.
I just purchased the LG G Watch R last week, and am happy as well with its manlier vibe, it looking like a traditional chunky sports watch. It has a beefier 400ma battery and I average a little below 2% drain per hour with it. I alternate between the Moto and the LG everyday, do I end up charging both only once a week since I turn each off at night.
As for the next versions, I'm thinking Motorola and LG will likely announce their next versions not during the CES next week, but most likely by spring, and then release by summer onwards. The two watches are still new and it wouldn't make business sense to dampen demand for these in the interim.
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I like the LG G Watch R. Problem is, I am a really skinny male :/ so having a big chassis is a no go haha. I'll be looking forward to CES (Through MKBHD. He is my source of tech >.<) hopefully they show the moto 360 2. TBH, I did not know the battery is that well on the watches. That is awesome news.
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The 360(V2) won't see the street until the end of summer assuming that they release it around a year after the original. So you have to ask yourself if you really want to wait. If price is an issue the price for a used 360 will probably be at or below $100 after the new one is released. So will the next version be worth the extra $150 or so, especially when cost is a driving factor?
I don't think the next version will be that more expensive than the current version since Moto has been moving them at a good rate.
I think the hardest part for you is the wait for the next version... can you do it? If not, just run out and pick one up.
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Darn. That long? I was expecting Q1 of 2015. If the watch is an extra $150 then I probably will not buy it. The moto 360 as the 1st gen is already really good and meets all my expectations already (Including chassis and software design >.<)
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I find myself in the same situation as you. I can't really say how much the 2nd gen 360 will cost -- most likely its price tag will be based on what Samsung, Asus, LG price their watches.
I expect the 2nd gen line of android wear watches to come out in 2015. What I plan to do is to wait until the next gen is released. If there's not much improvement in terms of design, batt life etc., then i might go for the 1st gen 360, its price will most likely drop significantly when 2nd gen is released.
Also, i want to point out that the batt life for the 360 in particular can be improved by using a LED screen instead of LCD one, and upgrading the TI OMAP processor to a more modern, battery-conserving one.
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This is what I will do. They make two different designs? LED and LCD?
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Wearing the LG G Watch R today. Like I said, I alternate this with the Moto 360. I have medium size wrist. I don't feel it's any chunkier than my mechanicals, although most of my mechanicals are 44mm or bigger.
This would surely look out of place on a female wrist though.
I've only had the 360 for 3 days plus and have reset it 3 times as i was messing with apps and stuff. The battery life on the 360 for me is between 12 to 18 hours which is fine cos I've expected to charge it everyday like what i would do with my phone. The overall feel of the 360 is good with good weight and solid build. I was using the Galaxy Gear (1st Gen) so it's a big difference for me.
If you have already budgeted for the 360 at the current price, i would suggest you to just get it and enjoy it. Yes you can wait for the next version which by the time it's available to you, 3 to 6 months would have past and by then Moto would already be preparing for version 3. The thing about tech is if you like it and have budgeted for it, get it while you still feel the excitement to do so. Once you lose that excitement, whatever the price maybe, you will not want to get it anymore.
This is just my opinion and again, get it only if you have already budgeted for it.
When 360v2 comes out... Will you be waiting for v3?.... Tech moves fast...
If you like it and have the money, buy it and enjoy... No regrets.. Actually the best gadget I have bought in the past 2yrs
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My 2 issues with the current 360 is the processor (ancient) and the back cracking issue with what looks like a design flaw. I got the 360 2 days ago but may return and wait
I took the plunge and gotten this lovely watch. I don't power off it every night but so far based on my standard usage, I charge the watch every 2 days with my phone.
As for V2, is all nothing but rumors and speculations only.
This watch is pretty new and Android Wear, currently in the market, no one knows where it will take them to. Given Moto usual slow release time frame, I suspect V2 might wait for a year + or 2 years before seeing light of it. Hehee
As for hardware specs, I think is fine but then since the current Android wear software is very well optimize, I think it is good until the next version of the Android wear start to weights it down ><'''
Yeah I hear you. I did decide to return the watch and wait for the 2nd gen of the moto 360. I really liked teh watch and took me a few extra days to make up my mind. But almost a 5 year old processor in new tech, I just couldn't get past. I'll wait 6 months or so and let Moto make a complete watch (do it right with a more current processor, better back and and oled display). I really liked the watch but i can wait.
Just bought mine today, snagged the silver with metal band, got to car and immediately returned it.
Exchanged for a silver finish and bought the tan leather band. Haven't worn a watch in years and so far the fit and functionality have exceed my expectations. I was on the fence along time about Android Wear, but after a co-worker got one and after seeing all the awesome faces I took the leap. I stumbled here on searches for version 2, thinking I jumped to early, honestly don't care...I'll enjoy my version one, unless version 2 has a better screen. Only "complaint" is the lack of a higher definition. I still grabbed this over the new ASUS.
So Is there any news about Moto 360 v2?
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hi, wanted to know if Anyone Coming from Moto 360/LG Watch R to Asus ZenWatch !!
I am currently using Moto 360 and purchsed Asus ZenWatch, will decide later if I want to keep both or sell one..
How do you like the zenwatch compared to Moto 360? I borrowed my friend's moto 360 to check it out for a week. It's pretty useful.
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How do you like the zenwatch compared to Moto 360? I borrowed my friend's moto 360 to check it out for a week. It's pretty useful.
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Mine in transit, will be getting in 1week!!
i have a silver 360 and yesterday the zen watch for my wife was delivered. random first reactions:
-zen watch screen smaller than the moto - hello bezel
-ambient mode on the ZW is brighter than the moto and stays on all the time unless its charging.
-quick release deployant is nicer than regular clasp.
-ZW charger is soft touch material and snaps onto the watch. usb port is on the side so the cable end points up while charging. would be more elegant if used with a 90-degree adapter. moto charges easier.
-charged the ZW full at 9:30 last night. wife played with it until about midnight. then it sat around until 6:30 this morning when i plugged it in to top it off for the day. ZW still had about 75% battery. So ZW battery probably lasts 2+ days with ambient on
-asus included some extra software for like remote camera, wellness center and some other stuff. the asus remote camera app works on the moto
-ZW vibrates to let you know it lost connection with the phone....i use Pear to do the same on the moto
-ZW lets you cover the watch to mute phone calls...i swipe to ignore on the moto
-ZW $50 less than moto
-ZW has a SOS thing where it sends a preset message to any specified number along with location info
-ZW has no light sensor, so manual brightness settings only.
-the asus commercial showed a sweeping second hand on the stock face...its now a ticking second hand and i see no options to change it...
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i have a silver 360 and yesterday the zen watch for my wife was delivered. random first reactions:
-zen watch screen smaller than the moto - hello bezel
-ambient mode on the ZW is brighter than the moto and stays on all the time unless its charging.
-quick release deployant is nicer than regular clasp.
-ZW charger is soft touch material and snaps onto the watch. usb port is on the side so the cable end points up while charging. would be more elegant if used with a 90-degree adapter. moto charges easier.
-charged the ZW full at 9:30 last night. wife played with it until about midnight. then it sat around until 6:30 this morning when i plugged it in to top it off for the day. ZW still had about 75% battery. So ZW battery probably lasts 2+ days with ambient on
-asus included some extra software for like remote camera, wellness center and some other stuff. the asus remote camera app works on the moto
-ZW vibrates to let you know it lost connection with the phone....i use Pear to do the same on the moto
-ZW lets you cover the watch to mute phone calls...i swipe to ignore on the moto
-ZW $50 less than moto
-ZW has a SOS thing where it sends a preset message to any specified number along with location info
-ZW has no light sensor, so manual brightness settings only.
-the asus commercial showed a sweeping second hand on the stock face...its now a ticking second hand and i see no options to change it...
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Which one do you prefer?
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Which one do you prefer?
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i like my silver 360 with the custom band, my wife likes her zen watch with the stock band. she actually has the black 360 for the past week but decided immediately, based on looks before even turning on the zen watch, to return the black one to costco.
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i have a silver 360 and yesterday the zen watch for my wife was delivered. random first reactions:
-the asus commercial showed a sweeping second hand on the stock face...its now a ticking second hand and i see no options to change it...
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all commercial I have seen also show sweeping seconds hand - did you checked with Asus on this???
even the Reviews quoted the same - "The ZenWatch comes with tons of clock faces, which display when the watch is in ‘hibernation’ mode. We particularly liked the analogue face, with a second hand that moves seamlessly around."
As a watch nut, I like the Moto360 in theory. But after discovered the Zenwatch on this forum, I couldn't flip it faster.
Tonneau shape just has that look appeals to me (Zenwatch), having said that, I think the Moto360 usable surface is greater.
Both works fine as far as the Google Now. I think Zenwatch edged out with the companion app features.
Still too soon to tell as I just got the Zenwatch handed by UPS this afternoon. I see definitely more fashion possibilities on the Zen though.
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all commercial I have seen also show sweeping seconds hand - did you checked with Asus on this???
even the Reviews quoted the same - "The ZenWatch comes with tons of clock faces, which display when the watch is in ‘hibernation’ mode. We particularly liked the analogue face, with a second hand that moves seamlessly around."
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Yea I don't see "tons of watch faces" OR a sweeping second hand on mine. If anyone can shed some light on this, I'm sure many people, myself included, would be grateful!
360 for a week, samsung s for two, sony sw3 for one, get asus today
Weii--I returned the the 360 and the SW3. I have and will keep the samsung s. I am testing out the ZW, should get it delivered later today if there is not another snow delay. I think I returned the 360 and SW3 mostly due to limits in android wear. But I wanted to try the ZW---its companion apps, and its looks, might compensate some. I also read somewhere that some person thought the google now voice commands worked better in ZW than 360 (a mic/speaker difference). I really like the samsung s sand am definitely keeping it---but it cannot make appointments and reminders---everything else on it I find to be much more useable than SW3 and 360. Glad to share any other impressions.
I just got my ZenWatch 2 days ago and I'm returning it. The notification vibration is far too weak. I barely feel it. And the battery life is mediocre, at best. With 'always on' checked and brightness at minimum, it dropped 50% in only 3-4 hrs. And I wasn't 'playing' with the watch at all. Just sitting there waiting for notifications that I couldn't feel vibrating...
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I just got my ZenWatch 2 days ago and I'm returning it. The notification vibration is far too weak. I barely feel it. And the battery life is mediocre, at best. With 'always on' checked and brightness at minimum, it dropped 50% in only 3-4 hrs. And I wasn't 'playing' with the watch at all. Just sitting there waiting for notifications that I couldn't feel vibrating...
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I agree with everything you're saying, however I would give the battery a little while longer to settle in. My moto 360 took about a week to settle in, that update also helped considerably. As of right now I'm getting the same battery life as you though, which so far is pretty damn disappointing! Really hoping it starts settling in soon, otherwise this is going back and I'm getting the 360 again, this time with metal band.
UPDATE: Actually, after thinking it over a bit more clearly, I'm only really disappointed in the initial drain down to 50% being so quick. Even still, mine lasts a good 16 hours or so, so far. Which is pretty damn good and I think can only get better. Please excuse my initial response, I work second shift and just woke up. Brain was still a bit foggy lol [emoji1]... I probably won't be returning for the moto 360, after actually tallying up the hours I've been getting so far with this watch vs what the moto was when I had it.
The only reason I hadn't already bought a 360 was because the ZenWatch was announced just a day or 2 before I planned to order the 360. So I was very much looking forward to getting this. I was totally biased when I first put it on my wrist.
I can live with the battery. I have a SmartQ Zwatch that I've had for a year that lasts about 36 hrs on a charge. I'm fine with a battery that only lasts a day. I don't wear my watch at night when I'm home anyway. I can charge each night. But I just can't get past the weak vibration. If I'm doing anything more physical than just sitting calmly, I simply don't feel it vibrating. This Zwatch I have can be heard vibrating from across a quiet room, it's so strong
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The only reason I hadn't already bought a 360 was because the ZenWatch was announced just a day or 2 before I planned to order the 360. So I was very much looking forward to getting this. I was totally biased when I first put it on my wrist.
I can live with the battery. I have a SmartQ Zwatch that I've had for a year that lasts about 36 hrs on a charge. I'm fine with a battery that only lasts a day. I don't wear my watch at night when I'm home anyway. I can charge each night. But I just can't get past the weak vibration. If I'm doing anything more physical than just sitting calmly, I simply don't feel it vibrating. This Zwatch I have can be heard vibrating from across a quiet room, it's so strong
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Yea I hear ya... It is pretty weak, but I actually kinda like that it's not too intrusive. I don't like it when they are too strong and I'm getting notification after notification... And personally, I haven't missed a notification yet. But everyone is different.
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Yea I hear ya... It is pretty weak, but I actually kinda like that it's not too intrusive. I don't like it when they are too strong and I'm getting notification after notification... And personally, I haven't missed a notification yet. But everyone is different.
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I decided to keep my ZenWatch after all. I'm hoping a software update could fix the things I don't like. The main reasons I decided to keep it, and not trade it in for a 360 are the ZenWatch's Snapdragon 400 chip vs 360's OMAP chip. Just based on that, the 360 was outdated on the day it was released. And I prefer the look of the ZenWatch. Plus the ability put on any standard watch band without the need to snap on plastic accessories is a big plus. I got 2 new watch bands yesterday for the ZenWatch that totally change the look in just a couple minutes. A brushed stainless steel band with an interesting link pattern and a black leather band with white stitching and a brushed stainless steel buckle. Both look really sharp and match the watch style perfectly.
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I decided to keep my ZenWatch after all. I'm hoping a software update could fix the things I don't like. The main reasons I decided to keep it, and not trade it in for a 360 are the ZenWatch's Snapdragon 400 chip vs 360's OMAP chip. Just based on that, the 360 was outdated on the day it was released. And I prefer the look of the ZenWatch. Plus the ability put on any standard watch band without the need to snap on plastic accessories is a big plus. I got 2 new watch bands yesterday for the ZenWatch that totally change the look in just a couple minutes. A brushed stainless steel band with an interesting link pattern and a black leather band with white stitching and a brushed stainless steel buckle. Both look really sharp and match the watch style perfectly.
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Could you post the pics of straps?
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Could you post the pics of straps?
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Here's the black leather. I have to take the steel strap to a jeweler to get a couple links taken out.
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Here's the stainless steel band
I finally got my Asus ZenWatch and I am sending back my Moto 360.
Benefits or PROS of Zenwatch over Moto 360:
Latest processor and there is NO lag what so ever as compared to Moto 360
Better VOICE Recognition
Coz of square screen - more apps working
Better Battery Life, one full day easily with heavy use with screen ON, moderate 1.5 days, less usage can give you 2 days
Comparatively Thinner profile than Moto 360
Cheaper than Moto 360
CONS:
Charging is bit of a pain if you are coming from Moto 360
If you own a MotoX2 phone, is there any reason to "lean" towards the 360 rather than the Zenwatch (do the two together do anything you couldn't do otherwise)?
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If you own a MotoX2 phone, is there any reason to "lean" towards the 360 rather than the Zenwatch (do the two together do anything you couldn't do otherwise)?
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Nope, u can use any android wear with any phone running 4.3.x
I've been thinking about buying the Moto 360 for a while because it's, imo the best looking snartwach to use with a suit (I work at a bank) since first reviews were not very good. With all the updates it had and after all this time what are the main functionalities that we can do with it at the moment and the main grips you're still having? Should I wait for another snartwach to arrive?
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I've been thinking about buying the Moto 360 for a while because it's, imo the best looking snartwach to use with a suit (I work at a bank) since first reviews were not very good. With all the updates it had and after all this time what are the main functionalities that we can do with it at the moment and the main grips you're still having? Should I wait for another snartwach to arrive?
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Well my suggestion is to go with the Moto360 with the stainless steel band or if you could get your hands on the uniband. My 360 doesn't get noticed as easily as a smartwatch because of the round face which is good but the LG G Watch R does the same thing but that wouldn't blend well with suits since it has a sports watch type of face.
In terms of battery life it was horrendous before updates but afterwards it can easily last 24 hours with tilt to wake on. I'm assuming without tilt to wake you can go for 36 hours or more.
The ambient screen feature drops it down to about 10 or so hours so if you think that's its worth having your screen on all the time but dark to a point where its very hard to tell time in most situations then go ahead and activate it.
The one thing that I'm the most affraid of when using the 360 is the possibilities of the back cracking. One search in the forums will show you pictures of people cracking their watches from normal use. Most of the time it is due to custom watch bands but not uncommon for it to happen on the leather model. Thankfully I haven't heard much about the oem steelband equipped watch cracking.
If the moto360 is not your style then you can always go to the zenwatch but the con is that it's square (not watch looking) and the fame color can throw off any custom band you may put on it. Only problem I have with that is its You can wait until the LG releases its premimum watch and decide from there or if you want wait until September or so when the updated version of the moto360 releases
Thanks for your input, I really like the design of the 360 but battery life is not good and the ambient Mode destroys it, from what I've been reading. What about the LG Urbane?
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Thanks for your input, I really like the design of the 360 but battery life is not good and the ambient Mode destroys it, from what I've been reading. What about the LG Urbane?
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I personally can get 2 days out of mine. I have the steel bracelet in silver, it looks really classy and works with everything (as it is both minimalistic and sportslike.
Go with the right watchface and you're done.
http://wearfaces.com/simplism-watchface-by-vanboosh/
Or : https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.pskstudio.elegancewatchfacefree
But you have ambient Mode always on, meaning, you have it always showing the time?
The moto 360 doesn't have an always on time mode like some of the other android wear watches like the lg g watch. Coming from am lg g watch I was really disappointed in that. The screen is also more pixellated than I expected. And the black bar on the screen makes me only use black watchfaces otherwise the black bar ruins the look. However, all those faults are forgiven if you love the style. I have two generation of pebbles and the lg g watch and the moto 360 may be the least practical of them all, but I really love the way it looks. Even though it's a bit chunky on my wrist. I considered waiting for the huwai watch but in the end decided the moto 360 looks better. If you really like the look of one style vs the other, you won't mind the drawbacks. Keep in mind you will very likely upgrade as new generations are released. The next generation will probably be leaps and bounds better.
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Yeah, I do prefer the look of the 360 but the LG watch Urbane looks nice as well and because of the amoled screen lasts a full day, from what I've been reading. It's also sharper and has a full round screen. Have you seen it?
Not in person, but I've seen pictures of it. The amoled screen would be a plus (except maybe outside), and not having the black bar is good too. It's not on my radar because it looks too manly, I just don't like the way it looks (I'm a woman). The moto 360 with the thin metal strap is less weird on a woman's wrist; it looks a bit like a boyfriend watch. But if you like the lg urbane and can afford to upgrade in 6 months, get that now and then get the next gen moto 360 in the fall too! It will almost certainly have better battery life in the next gen and maybe amoled screen too.
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Yes, your right, it does look manly. The 360 looks a mix between something classic and something futuristic and I love it. If you have it, how do you feel about having a watch that is a black screen most of the day? I also have a thin wrist, doesn't It look too big? What about current functionalities?
I would love with the new mono link metal band available with delayed shipping on Motorola Moto maker site... Looks better than the other metal bands IMO.
The only two questions now are: - when will the new metal band be available?
- when will the LG Urbane be available?
Those are good questions. Maybe the availability is what will make your decision. I prefer black screens anyway and probably would use the same watch faces even if that little black bar wasn't on the bottom. I don't like that the time is not always showing. If you like both watches equally, and the urbane keeps the watch on always, I suggest you go for that. But if you like the moto's style more, you will forgive it that fault. I am wearing the moto instead of my pebble or lg g despite the moto needing to "wake up" to show time. But I haven't had it long enough to know if that will really bother me. Right now there is no perfect smart watch on the market so we can choose to live with some drawbacks or we can choose to wait at least 6 months and probably more like 2 years for the technology to mature. I choose to not wait. I didn't buy it initially because it was so big and thick, I don't know if I just got accustomed to the size, or if the gold watch and thin band makes it seem smaller, but I like it. The band you want only comes in 22mm size. The slim bands are 18mm and sized to barely fit my wrist, but come with four extra links. I don't think they would fit most men, you should visit a best buy and try a display model if you can, before you buy.
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My 360 easily lasts two days, but I rarely have the need to stay awake for 2 days at a time. Also, I rarely have the need to stare at my watch face all day so I don't need it to stay lit up all day, or for two days at a time.
Two relatively moot points when you think about it logically.
Reportedly, the Urbane will not be using Android Wear
No, there are 2 versions, the Urbane and the Urbane LTE. The LTE version will use LG operating system which derived from webOS
I wear a suit 6 days a week. My moto360 does me good. Compliments from clients every day.
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I wear a suit 6 days a week. My moto360 does me good. Compliments from clients every day.
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Thanks
How is your battery life and which watch phone and band do you use?
I got a Nexus 6 and a moto360 black with black pebble link band. I only use the 360 for messages and to tell time. I turned the brightness all the way down and turned off the health stuff. I usually get home with 30-40% life left after 10-12 hours off charger.
I looked at some photos of that particular band and don't really like it. Can't we buy other band on a regular watch store? I really like the look of the new mono link metal band but don't really if and when it will be available in Europe...
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I have a Moto 360 and I like it but was hoping for more features. Not being able to make a call through the watch is a letdown, to be honest. And the vibration seems a little low, I miss some of the notifications...Also, framerate*seems a little choppy at time, even with the last 5.0.2 update.*I demand more, I really hope future Android Wear updates make it a little more interesting.
Depending on the model itself, it can be really classy or just passable as a professional device. Either way, it doesn't give off a tacky look that would look out of place when worn with a suit, unless you're wearing a color that obviously doesn't match. The metallic band versions seem to work pretty well, but I don't think the leather bands are that bad. If you are on the fence, though, I'd probably wait for the next iteration of the Moto 360, which has been in the rumour mill for some time to come out in 2015. Especially given that the Moto 360 has a few production or design issues like the backplate being prone to being broken easily, I'd definitely wait.
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Depending on the model itself, it can be really classy or just passable as a professional device. Either way, it doesn't give off a tacky look that would look out of place when worn with a suit, unless you're wearing a color that obviously doesn't match. The metallic band versions seem to work pretty well, but I don't think the leather bands are that bad. If you are on the fence, though, I'd probably wait for the next iteration of the Moto 360, which has been in the rumour mill for some time to come out in 2015. Especially given that the Moto 360 has a few production or design issues like the backplate being prone to being broken easily, I'd definitely wait.
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Thanks for your input. But if you check the post before yours I already bought the 360
Cheers
Enjoy
http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_ifa_2015_hands_on_review-review-1295.php
400 mAh battery doesn't look very impressive to me. Screen is still LCD and not OLED so overall battery life could be at most 30-40% better, in my opinion.
To me, the first Moto 360 look like the successor of the new one design-wise, not the other way around. The original design is pure and futuristic.
Price also is increased by $100 (for the 46mm watch) which I find kind of greedy from Motorola.
I predict that the new Moto 360 won't have the success of the first edition, but it remains to be seen.
Personally not a big enough upgrade for me to shell out more money. Bought mine on sale for $149 and ordered a black metal band for $12 and it is working great. After the initial set-up I have never had a problem making it though a day with battery life.
I agree, mine lasts a very full day into night, not enough an upgrade to switch. A safer / less likely to crack back is a little tempting.. But I might try one of those Steel Connect products...
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Won´t buy it until it drops to $150 and I sell my 1st gen watch (I would consider other smarwatches at a similar price too)
I was really, really hoping that they would move to OLED. It really boggles me as to why they stayed with LCD, considering OLED can offer much better power-savings, and ambient mode is pretty much pointless on an LCD screen.
I would have definitely upgraded had they switched to OLED for the 2015 Moto 360, but so far, pretty disappointed with the announcement. I was half-hoping that they would implement some NFC-capabilities, but they didn't do that, either.
Wow I have to agree with all of you. LCD screen will eat the battery, and they kept the flat tire. I was excited for the final specs but now realize I will not be upgrading from my $149 first gen 360, not much changed.
I have an LG G watch R and wore it all day today with heavy usage with ambient mode on plus disabled minimal ambient screen mode so the screen looks active the entire day. As I write this 14 hours later, I still have 63% battery left. I think the Moto 360 is much more stylish, but it is a stylish black screen most of the day. I guess I will be looking at Samsung & other new watches.
I have had an LG G Watch R for about a year and just got a 1st generation Moto 360 for formal affairs. I am glad the 360 does not have an OLED screen. I don't use the Moto 360 as my daily driver, but as a short term watch for formal gatherings. I don't need it to have great battery life, but I do need to avoid the burn in issues I've seen some LG G Watch R owners experience. I want to be able to use lighter watch faces with no fear of burn in.
I am very glad I got the 1st generation 360, before the 2nd generation came out. The latest 360 has a bigger battery, and looks nice, although I do prefer the look of the 1st generation model. With all that the 2nd generation 360 brings, it is simply not worth it's much higher price tag. Android Wear devices, used to cost much less than a phone. Now, Android Wear prices are on par with the phones they're supposed to pair with and depend on for information. They don't even have independent call and talk capability, but are priced like phones...
I did a comparison today in Moto Maker and the 2nd generation 360 would cost more than double for the same design as I purchased just last week for a 1st generation 360. That's pretty wild to me, since the 2nd generation 360 is not "that much" better.
To me, Moto and others that have just released 2015 Android Wear devices. Are in some delusional space, thinking they will get sales at their present asking prices.
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Darnell_Chat_TN said:
To me, Moto and others that have just released 2015 Android Wear devices. Are in some delusional space, thinking they will get sales at their present asking prices.
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I agree with this, they saw the Apple Watch pricing and they thought to match it. The fate will be the same as with Galaxy S6 vs iPhone 6: Samsung did a price drop after a few short months.
Yeah this new one just ain't worth the upgrade... I really thought they would work out a way of getting rid of the flat tire.. The price is a joke.
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I was really, really hoping that they would move to OLED. It really boggles me as to why they stayed with LCD, considering OLED can offer much better power-savings, and ambient mode is pretty much pointless on an LCD screen.
I would have definitely upgraded had they switched to OLED for the 2015 Moto 360, but so far, pretty disappointed with the announcement. I was half-hoping that they would implement some NFC-capabilities, but they didn't do that, either.
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I agree with the OLED. My assumption is that they could not outsource an OLED display of their required size and shape (1.56" with flat-tyre at the bottom, minimal bezel and all the electronics in the flat-tyre area) in a cost-effective manner. Samsung and LG use much smaller 1.2" displays with large to huge bezels. Huawei is a bit of a surprise though.
But with a 400mAh battery, updated processor and maybe LCD backlight improvements I think we are in for a surprise regarding battery life with the always-on display. Or at least I hope so.
In the mean time, I really like the Samsung Gear S2 so I may just get that as an upgrade if it has really good battery life.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1106406-REG/motorola_00421nartl_moto_360_smartwatch_light_stainless.html
They had them for $99 last night and i managed to snag one. I know it's two years okd tech and has the slower processor but I'm pretty sure that it also means there have been two years worth of updates... Mainly i just wanted a nice timepiece that can do notifications... I might play around with Tasker on it as well... Everyone still happy with their motos?
Well i'd say paying $99 is better than paying full retail. Personally i'm never going to buy one again. I'm very happy with the LG watch for $80 I replaced it with. The Moto 360 is a very sexy looking smart watch, but in my uses it was very laggy, and in my case the battery died after only 500 days. They then wanted $100 to fix it.
I'm on my second one now, the first one cracked one all 4 mounting points for the strap. Still the best looking smartwatch IMO. Yeah, it's slow and buggy and laggy but for what I use it for its still a great device.
Bought mine a few days back for 75, so not unhappy with it atm
Have my moto 360 1.st gen since 27.9.15 now and I'm happy with it, good battery life and no laggs here... With apps like quick for wear a very usefull gadget. In my opinion you got a good deal
Bought mine about a year ago for $150 and still loving it. Don't see the complaints on the performance. Having very little issues with that on my 360. Have a co-worker that has an Apple Watch and it constantly gets out performed by my 360. Having the apps actually running on the watch is a massive advantage. Such a horrible design flaw by Apple. But that's another topic entirely. Every software update has improved everything about the watch. Battery life is excellent without ambient display on. It's just ok with it on. I have a pretty active job so when I have ambient display turned on it turns the full display on all the time. Really depends on what you do during the day.
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Bought mine about a year ago for $150 and still loving it. Don't see the complaints on the performance. Having very little issues with that on my 360. Have a co-worker that has an Apple Watch and it constantly gets out performed by my 360. Having the apps actually running on the watch is a massive advantage. Such a horrible design flaw by Apple. But that's another topic entirely. Every software update has improved everything about the watch. Battery life is excellent without ambient display on. It's just ok with it on. I have a pretty active job so when I have ambient display turned on it turns the full display on all the time. Really depends on what you do during the day.
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Thanks for the info... It was interesting to discover that, yes while I was buying a two year smart watch, it also had two years of updates, many substantial.
Im coming from a z fold 3/ S22 ultra, wasnt planning on getting the 4 since the upgrades seemed very minor but i had some play time with it at Samsung and was surprised how much i liked it. Cameras are much improved especially the zoom (which was my big complaint on the 3 coming from the S21 ultra and 22 ultra).
Felt the decrease in weight and could actually notice the 3mm increase on the front screen. Figured im running out of storage on the 512gb fold 3 anyway so got the 1tb version.
Against my better judgement, I bit even though the differences were minor and since the deals last year were better through Samsung. Hope I don't regret it.
I was really considering the Vivo Xfold instead but I could not pull the trigger on that one because of lack of Volte support here in the US on my carriers.
Waiting for the Fold 4 512GB, GW5 Pro, and Buds 2 Pro to get here. Hopefully they come a few days early which is the typical. All showing an estimated delivery date of August 26th as of now with "Preorder" status and cancel button still available.
Forget this. The xiaomi mi mix fold "2" is the one! How slim is this phone!? Damn.
In comparison the fold 4 looks prehistoric. I want to like Samsung again, but they're boring lately
Jumped on the preorder too. Love the 3, but that camera is great! Who else thinks they spend too much on phones?
Yup, will be my first fold.
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Forget this. The xiaomi mi mix fold "2" is the one! How slim is this phone!? Damn.
In comparison the fold 4 looks prehistoric. I want to like Samsung again, but they're boring lately
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Yeap. Samsung's been a dull knife for almost 3 years straight now. A lot of dropped balls.
No SD card expandable storage makes this device a no sale right off the get go.
If you have a 1tb one reloads will very time consuming if have a large database. Worse there's nothing to prevent data loss on the device if the OS crashes or if the phone gets mangled.
Samsung knew better... screw em.
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Forget this. The xiaomi mi mix fold "2" is the one! How slim is this phone!? Damn.
In comparison the fold 4 looks prehistoric. I want to like Samsung again, but they're boring lately
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Sure, let me know when it comes with a warranty or support in the US and maybe I'll look. Also, what kind of water resistance does it have? Looks great but I need to know I won't have an issue especially since the Fold is what I use for work and the Pixel 6 Pro handles personal things.
preordered 12/512 Black. My first Fold...
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Sure, let me know when it comes with a warranty or support in the US and maybe I'll look. Also, what kind of water resistance does it have? Looks great but I need to know I won't have an issue especially since the Fold is what I use for work and the Pixel 6 Pro handles personal things.
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IPx8, so there's that.
However it's battery is only a 100mAh larger than my N10+'s which easily get 11+hrs SOT. I highly doubt any of the Folds can survive 2+ years of heavy usage without major repairs (excluding normal battery replacement). Their track record in this regard sucks.
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IPx8, so there's that.
However it's battery is only a 100mAh larger than my N10+'s which easily get 11+hrs SOT. I highly doubt any of the Folds can survive 2+ years of heavy usage without major repairs (excluding normal battery replacement). Their track record in this regard sucks.
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The Fold 4 does have IPx8, but my comments were in regards to the Xiaomi offering. I'm a little too aware of what the Fold has going for it. I've seen a vocal minority complaining about Folds on Reddit but I've also seen plenty of people with Fold 2's that are in use daily without any trouble. My Fold 3 is in perfect shape 1 year on.
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The Fold 4 does have IPx8, but my comments were in regards to the Xiaomi offering. I'm a little too aware of what the Fold has going for it. I've seen a vocal minority complaining about Folds on Reddit but I've also seen plenty of people with Fold 2's that are in use daily without any trouble. My Fold 3 is in perfect shape 1 year on.
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It's a leading edge technology that literally stretching the materials to their design limits.
In a prefect world this might work... the Fold's fail in a predictable pattern. When Samsung's QC is good its less. Samsung's QC isn't what is was 3 years ago though. Plenty of failures across the board, not just with the Folds. This may work in your favor. Samsung is desperate to make this design succeed.
All my old phones as old as 12 yo that are still fully functional in spite of a hard lives. The Folds are incapable of that without major repairs. This N10+ in my hands is almost 3 years old, it looks, feels and runs like new. It's always case protected; something that's hard to do with a foldable. It's projected service life is 2+ years more. So far I've seen nothing new that can effectively replace it. Google Android is also very much a large part of the problem since Android 11 it's been a scoped storage paranoid mess.
Xiaomi hasn't invested the time and money Samsung has although they may have learned from that. If Xiaomi isn't bragging about its IP rating it's for a reason...
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Sure, let me know when it comes with a warranty or support in the US and maybe I'll look. Also, what kind of water resistance does it have? Looks great but I need to know I won't have an issue especially since the Fold is what I use for work and the Pixel 6 Pro handles personal things.
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Go knock yourself out then. If you need those things, fair enough.
I want to like this, but the only real thing I'll notice are better cameras, rebadged fold 3. We just lapp it up every year. Lazy ahhhse Samsung, in the sense it's not different enough from its predecessor.
IWe all have different needs. If you've never gone fold before also, it'll be nice, after you've been resuscitated from the shock of that price
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Forget this. The xiaomi mi mix fold "2" is the one! How slim is this phone!? Damn.
In comparison the fold 4 looks prehistoric. I want to like Samsung again, but they're boring lately
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I totally agree. Samsung is so boring!
I personally would NEVER BUY SAMSUNG!
Samsung deliberately removed the real fastboot and replaced it with a fake empty one that doesn't even do anything. Samsung did this on purpose to annoy their users...
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Then Samsung force constant selinux enforcing down your throat and the only way to set it to permissive is by actually hacking into your kernel. Sounds like fun right?
Every year Samsung force you to use AMOLED display which is suboptimal. Why not give your customers alternative display technology options such as IPS panel for instance?
And if you are unlucky enough to get stuck in a very annoying and mysterious bootloop then as a new user you will have a hard time to get back out of it on a Samsung device. It's much easier to get out of bootloops on other manufacturer's devices (those with a real working fastboot).
That's why I prefer Xiaomi devices nowadays. Cheap price, good hardware, easy to unlock (1 week waiting time which is kind of annoying but still somewhat acceptable), easy to root and debloat and customize
And with Xiaomi devices you can actually choose between OLED and IPS panels...
And the best part is : setenforce 0 actually works on Xiaomi devices! I know most Samsung folks can only dream of doing that (even as root!). No need to be jealous, just buy Xiaomi device next time! You won't regret it!
I know I always regret those damn Samsung devices...
Don't get me wrong the Samsung hardware is great (well minus the display) and their stock Android OS is rock solid if you ask me.
The only problem is Samsung has this policy of needlessly annoying their power users by adding all these useless protection features that nobody really needs. Why can't they be more like Xiaomi?
Conclusion: Xiaomi devices are much more developer friendly than Samsung devices.
There may be other good phone manufacturers out there but so far I've only tried Sony, HTC, Samsung and Xiaomi (in chronological order). Xiaomi is the clear winner for me by far. None of the others can even get close.
Just my 3 cents
i'm not a developer or interested in rooting (anymore). trading in my Fold3 and S22 Ultra, for an unlocked 1TB Fold 4 and Watch5 Pro. The Fold3 was my personal device and the S22 Ultra is a (free to me) work phone. Employer is switching to iPhones and allowing Android users to keep their (work) Android devices or use a personal device for work (as long as it passes security checks). this is the perfect scenario for me, making my decision an easy one: Fold 4 with dual sim capabilities for $216.
LOL, microSD card and headphone jack are EXTINCT. Yes they are NEVER coming back so we really need to stop beating that dead horse already!
The offshore devices are nice but what good are they if you cannot use the USA bands? Dealbreaker right there...
Some things I wish we had:
IR Blaster. Don't think it's ever coming back. It may be more of a regulatory thing than anything else.
S-pen included with internal storage like Note proper, right?
Periscope camera if not too bulky.
I thought the Fold 4 was getting UFS 4.0 storage?
Some sources indicate the Flip 4, like its predecessor, won't be getting WiFi 6E capability! That's madness if true. We recently updated our WiFi here to support this connectivity and the speed is superb. It was "maddening" to find my Flip 3 was getting under 1Gbps because there was no WiFi 6E. Yet the Fold 3 has it?!
I like the Flip 3 but I like the Fold 3 even better. $900 for the Flip3 is great trade in so of course I sprung for it. What I'm not thrilled about is the cost to jump to 1TB. If it had 16GB RAM like the S21 512GB then maybe. I dunno. I don't really need that much space on them as the video capture doesn't really need space (like the iPhone 13 Pro Max) so there's that.
At least we have esim now out of the box. Finally!
I may run caseless for a while too. The s-pen with case was "free" with the deal but ugh, so much bulk. I hate, HATE bulk. I buy these aramid thin ass covers for my devices. I see latercase already has it for preorder. I'm going to wait and get essentially the same thing off Amazon for half the price LOL!
Don't even dare mention how much I spend on phones!
I'm on the fence with the iphone 14 pro max in a few weeks. Got to see how much better the camera is going to be. But I read it's going to cost 15% more? WTF a 1TB 14 Pro Max is going to cost more than the Fold 4 MSRP (512GB). That's nuts. Lightning still Apple? USB 2.0 speed in 2022! Madness! At least it will have WiFi6E so airdrop to our NAS will be OK for time being. And I'm not a fan of the sideways exclamation point display cutout FFS! I have no problem losing FaceID for a power button FP reader. The ones on the Fold3 and Flip3 are FLAWLESS and super convenient IMHO.
Ok enough rambling on here. Clock is ticking. Need to start a preorder waiting room thread LOL!
I have a hard time staying away when Samsung has a new release, particularly a phone that appears to be as good as the Fold 4 is looking to be. I traded in my S22 Ultra and I am really happy with the Trade in Deal samsung offered....can't wait ..fingers crossed they ship early like they have usually done in the past...
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Im coming from a z fold 3/ S22 ultra, wasnt planning on getting the 4 since the upgrades seemed very minor but i had some play time with it at Samsung and was surprised how much i liked it. Cameras are much improved especially the zoom (which was my big complaint on the 3 coming from the S21 ultra and 22 ultra).
Felt the decrease in weight and could actually notice the 3mm increase on the front screen. Figured im running out of storage on the 512gb fold 3 anyway so got the 1tb version.
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Nice to see you here force I am on the fence of pre ordering not many deals in canada this time around.
I would have bought the X fold 100% if 5g worked on rogers i Canada, much prefer its form factor and camera to the fold 3 or 4.
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Nice to see you here force I am on the fence of pre ordering not many deals in canada this time around.
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Been while thats for sure lol.
Yeah they really treat Canada like an afterthought, some great pre order options in the US but we get the shaft lol
lawtq said:
Forget this. The xiaomi mi mix fold "2" is the one! How slim is this phone!? Damn.
In comparison the fold 4 looks prehistoric. I want to like Samsung again, but they're boring lately
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Yes, slim hehe But what about features? Wireless charging? IP rating? Inner screen front camera? Software (Xiaomi's support is poor)?
Do you prefer to buy a nice looking or functional device?