LEAGOO Elite 2 Octa Core 5.5" IPS HD, 3800mAh, 2GB RAM+16GB ROM - Device Reviews and Information

Leagoo is soon going to release their new Elite series.
The LEAGOO Elite 2 is an Octa Core with 5.5" IPS HD screen, 3800mAh, 2GB RAM+16GB ROM and it can shoot videos in 720p with 60 frames/s.
Some of the specifications are:
Network 3G WCDMA 850/1900/2100
CPU 1.4GHz Octa Core
Internal Memory RAM 2GB + ROM 16GB
Display Size 5.5 inch HD
Display Material IPS (Corning Gorilla Glass)
Dimension 153.4*77.2*7.5mm
Camera 18.0MP rear camera, 13.0MP front camera
Operation System Android 4.4
Battery 3800mAh
Color Black, White, Champagne Gold
Other Features Support HotKnot, Wake Gesture, Air Turn, etc.
Seems to be an interesting phone with a nice design, what do you think? The price is also going to be interesting because that will of course also be an important factor.
More info at LEAGOO here: http://www.leagoo.cc/Elite2.html
and on their Facebook page: http://www.facebook.com/leagoocc
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Battery Capacity
The Leagoo Site currently shows a 3200mAH battery..
Are there different versions of it or have they changed it recently?
I was ready to order it but noticed this so I guess I should ask first.

Battery
I'm kinda late coming in here but. The battery is 3200. I have been very happy with the battery life. It will Last all day easy with regular use. However The phone has been a real disapointment. I mean it was under $150. So.... yah.

kimo hands said:
I'm kinda late coming in here but. The battery is 3200. I have been very happy with the battery life. It will Last all day easy with regular use. However The phone has been a real disapointment. I mean it was under $150. So.... yah.
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Why has it been a real disappointment mate?
Please point out what issues you have faced with it..
There aren't many reviews on it so it would really help if you enlighten me as I'm still thinking of getting one but haven't decided yet..

A few things I've noticed.
Typing is a pain. The interface continually multi types letters when I hit space if I try to type to fast. Like it has trouble keeping up. It also hits L instead of backspace a lot. Also when using apps or browsing online the keyboard doesn't pop up. It pops up probably 50% of the time. Some text fields it just doesn't pop up. I had to download hackers keyboard because it creates a button in the drop down menu that allows me to manually open the keyboard.
The hardware otherwise lives up to what I was expecting very smooth interface, however ever since the first update the clock and notifications on the top bar as well as the setting menu items are flipped. Example. Clock and battery go from top right to top left. And other little nuances.
I don't use the stock launcher so I can't comment on it.
I don't remember dropping the phone however my mic no longer works. So I can't make phone calls without a bluetooth device. I suppose It's possible I damaged it somehow but it's only been about a month I've had it.
I'd rather just get a new Samsung phone then deal with shipping for a repair or replacement.
The bluetooth doesn't seem to work as well as my old phone or tablet. For example my galaxy tab and old razr phone show song titles and info on my bluetooth car stereo but the elite 2 does not and goes out sometimes. The connection can be very finicky. Sometimes it drops out for a few seconds every minute.
The GPS is not very accurate. Constantly adjusting putting me a few streets over.
The screen does not feel smooth like other devices I'm used to. What I mean by that is as I drag my finger across it my finger seems more likely to drag hard or stick to the screen. It's not terrible or a deal breaker but I do notice it.
I guess ultimately it was inexpensive. I should have expected it to feel inexpensive. I tried really hard to like and defend it but ultimately I'm not very happy with it. So if your considering it I'd say as long as the mic doesn't break it does do the whole being a phone thing well. Otherwise it's been a pain in the ass.
Hope this is helpful

Wow, that's a lot of issues.. I'm constantly liking these china phones less and less..
Well, a friend of mine has ordered it recently so I'll also test it out to see how his device goes..
Also another friend of mine ordered the elephone P3000s so I'll also check that one out before I make my final decision..
But deciding is kind of getting rougher over time..
Many thanks for your post mate! Best of luck with your case!

Well, I am more pleased with the phone than most people. It works a treat, BUT, the keyboard failing to show is a BIG PROBLEM.
Has anyone got a fix other than installing hacker keyboard? this is a ridiculous situation.
When this problem occurs on any other phone, you can clear cache + data on 'android input' in the ALL section of the apps settings and it will come back. On samsung phones 'android input' is called something else but the process is the same.
Does anyone have any clue what I need to clear to fix this on the leagoo? I've tried all clearing android keyboard + swiftkey etc, no joy.

Great device, I am really looking forward to it. I am about to order a unit for myself.

UPDATE: there is a recent OTA update which you must click CHECK UPDATE to see through the ABOUT PHONE section of settings, it is not automatically detected.
After installing this latest update, keyboard woes sorted. Very very happy with this phone for the price now.

bandario said:
Well, I am more pleased with the phone than most people. It works a treat, BUT, the keyboard failing to show is a BIG PROBLEM.
Has anyone got a fix other than installing hacker keyboard? this is a ridiculous situation.
When this problem occurs on any other phone, you can clear cache + data on 'android input' in the ALL section of the apps settings and it will come back. On samsung phones 'android input' is called something else but the process is the same.
Does anyone have any clue what I need to clear to fix this on the leagoo? I've tried all clearing android keyboard + swiftkey etc, no joy.
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I had this problem too anyone can solve this problem please let us know
Thank you

pingsovo said:
I had this problem too anyone can solve this problem please let us know
Thank you
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The latest OTA update, accessible via Settings --> about phone has addressed the keyboard issue.
Unfortunately, Leagoo have proved themselves to be most dishonorable as a company.
The Elite 2 ships with 2 programs built into the ROM (NOT DELETABLE) that are packed with malware. The device downloads and installs further malware infected programs of its own accord.
beautymakeup is one offender, I forget the other.
We desperately need root for this device so that this can be addressed.

bandario said:
The latest OTA update, accessible via Settings --> about phone has addressed the keyboard issue.
Unfortunately, Leagoo have proved themselves to be most dishonorable as a company.
The Elite 2 ships with 2 programs built into the ROM (NOT DELETABLE) that are packed with malware. The device downloads and installs further malware infected programs of its own accord.
beautymakeup is one offender, I forget the other.
We desperately need root for this device so that this can be addressed.
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Well I couldn't find any alternative to fit my requirements at such a price, so I ordered it and finally received the device yesterday.
Almost immediately I installed the OTA update so I didn't face any hidden keyboard issues.
The phone is running smoothly no matter how much I load it up.. I've run tests: Phone Function, Speaker, Microphone, GPS, 3G, WiFi all work fine and battery is nice too! Also, I got a normal for this cpu ~28000 on AnTuTu.
Design wise I'm ok with it I would like it to be a bit thinner but I'm a freak when it comes to thickness so don't worry about it. It's ~7.5mm thick... It's almost equal to my sister's Elephone G7 in thickness only that one is a bit thinner around the edges.
I love the black version as the screen tends to blend in with the frame when off, plus the colors look great in contrast with it when on.
The screen is very bright and I use it easily at less than 25% setting and it's view-able from any angle.
I installed all my favorite apps(a few dozens of them) without any problem and today I noticed an ad popping up every now and then.
So I decided to root the device and succeeded on the second attempt using Kingo Root.
After rooting I removed that beautymakeup app and the leagoo market since I don't really need it and I'm now wondering if there's anything else that has to go without ruining anything.. so I would like to ask if these 2 should be removed or not:
1. Leagoo Launcher (can I remove it or it will cause problems to my phone's functionality?)
2. OtdLauncher (I have no idea what it is so I'm not touching it until I get something on it..)
It seems that the ad is still popping up every now and then and I don't know which app is launching it..
Any help would be greatly appreciated!

I am pretty bloody keen to know how you got kingo root to work? I've run it a bunch of times and not had a win.
If you have installed a replacement launcher, you should be fine to remove or freeze the old ones....but I have no idea what Otd launcher is. Anyone else?

Leagoo Elite 2 - A nice phone.
Just got mine delivered yesterday evening.
Solid built and feels good in hand.
Played with it today for two hours and all is set.
There is one issue/strange behaviour I have noticed on the handset delivered to me, navigation button lights are always ON, back/menu buttons not the home button.
Anyone else noticed this?
And as reported by another user, it feels strange sliding finger on the screen, it feels like sticky.
bandario said:
I am pretty bloody keen to know how you got kingo root to work? I've run it a bunch of times and not had a win.
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Try using the apk version from Kingo Android Root website, it worked for me, windows application failed for me too. But kingoroot also installs lots of bloatware. So I installed SuperSu and once it took over the root management I removed Kingo and everything that it installed using App Master
Using the App Master I have also removed all other garbage that came with the device (launchers/Leagoo Apps etc), I am using Apex Launcher.
App Master gives you the option to take backup of the APP you are removing, so use that option and if something goes wrong, restorte the removed APP.
Installed xposed, MinMinGuard (removes in APP Ads) & Amplify
Overall phone is performing very smooth, not checked it with heavy games/apps as this one is a gift for my Mom, so only few extra Apps that the old lady will use.
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Would like to mention that I love it's speakers, sound is loud, clear and natural.

bandario said:
I am pretty bloody keen to know how you got kingo root to work? I've run it a bunch of times and not had a win.
If you have installed a replacement launcher, you should be fine to remove or freeze the old ones....but I have no idea what Otd launcher is. Anyone else?
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I'm also not sure how.. it just worked on the second try.
Maybe uninstall the driver and try it again.. Kingo likes to install the driver it finds on its own.. Just a thought though.. no promises.

Now this is new.. today I got another OTA update notice so I decided to download it and upgrade..
But the system showed up this message "your system was damaged wireless update is disabled".
Ok, now I'm wondering what went wrong..
Could it possibly be that because my device is rooted it prevented the update? Should I unroot it?
It's kinda scary.. Has anyone else faced the same issue?

SolidSnakeGr said:
Now this is new.. today I got another OTA update notice so I decided to download it and upgrade..
But the system showed up this message "your system was damaged wireless update is disabled".
Ok, now I'm wondering what went wrong..
Could it possibly be that because my device is rooted it prevented the update? Should I unroot it?
It's kinda scary.. Has anyone else faced the same issue?
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Had you by any chance rooted your phone?
What update version is it showing?

VinayakS said:
Had you by any chance rooted your phone?
What update version is it showing?
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Well, like I said.. yes I've rooted my phone.
The current custom build version on it is :
LEAGOO_Elite_2_V018_20150416

SolidSnakeGr said:
Well, like I said.. yes I've rooted my phone.
The current custom build version on it is :
LEAGOO_Elite_2_V018_20150416
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That could be a reason, try unroot completely and then try.
I received the phone with LEAGOO_Elite_2_V020_20150512
You may also check with the customer support for ROM download and flash it using some custom recovery.

VinayakS said:
That could be a reason, try unroot completely and then try.
I received the phone with LEAGOO_Elite_2_V020_20150512
You may also check with the customer support for ROM download and flash it using some custom recovery.
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Well I'm not facing any "bugs" or "performance issues" as the update says so I don't really need the update.. so I'm ok without it.
However something else that drives me nuts is that even though I've uninstalled leagoo launcher and market and that weird app beauty sth but still.. I get a random ad every now and then that's been happening since I bought it before even installing anything.
I'll try to note down what is being advertised, I'm pretty sure one is "App Box" and there is another one I don't remember.
I will note them down next time they come up and research on them..
This ad appears once in every 2 or 3 days without running any specific app so I still I can't track it..

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First Android Ever, quick questions: Call log and threading

Hi, I recently jumped ship from the iPhone 4 to the galaxy S2 and so far I am liking it. I really do not know what or how to do a root but I would want to to get the full potential out of my phone (esp if it is as easy as jailbreaking was). I also was wondering where I can find different ROM's (from what I understand those are the interfaces) and which is best for speed, battery life, etc.
As of now, i haven't done any mods to the phone except for apps through the marketplace. Any suggestions (I cannot do a root as of now because I have a mac and do not have access to a PC at the moment)? How easy is the root for a beginner?
Also, the one thing I miss from the iPhone and frankly any other phone (BB, etc.) is the threading on my call logs (same number, multiple calls, show up once and you press it to show all the times of calls) and how when I push phone on the other phones it would show up in Call Log and not in the actual numbers tab because, frankly many people do not use that as much anymore.
Is there a work around that for those two concerns at the moment if I do not root? If not, is there a work around if I do root?
Thanks for helping a newbie out.
Not sure about your question, but for customizing try out some new launchers like Launcher Pro or ADW.Launcher.
le14 said:
Hi, I recently jumped ship from the iPhone 4 to the galaxy S2 and so far I am liking it. I really do not know what or how to do a root but I would want to to get the full potential out of my phone (esp if it is as easy as jailbreaking was). I also was wondering where I can find different ROM's (from what I understand those are the interfaces) and which is best for speed, battery life, etc.
As of now, i haven't done any mods to the phone except for apps through the marketplace. Any suggestions (I cannot do a root as of now because I have a mac and do not have access to a PC at the moment)? How easy is the root for a beginner?
Also, the one thing I miss from the iPhone and frankly any other phone (BB, etc.) is the threading on my call logs (same number, multiple calls, show up once and you press it to show all the times of calls) and how when I push phone on the other phones it would show up in Call Log and not in the actual numbers tab because, frankly many people do not use that as much anymore.
Is there a work around that for those two concerns at the moment if I do not root? If not, is there a work around if I do root?
Thanks for helping a newbie out.
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hey im the same as you ive been an iphone user since day 1 and i couldnt help myself when i saw this beast if im not mistaken what youre looking for is a shortcut to logs as if you hit the phone icon then hit logs n whatever number you press will give you all the log info as in how many times and date/time either you called or they did but if you hit the green phone icon it'll just call that number instead.. havent found a shortcut to it tho yet... not sure if thats what you were asking.. n btw i rooted mine without any problem just read the instruction right and you'll be fine its as easy as jailbreaking your first iphone 2g...lol
I'm looking for something like in BB or the iPhones where you press on call log and all the numbers are threaded.
For example if I had 10 calls all from one number on the S2 they all show up as different logs but on other phones, it would show up as one number in the call log and you can just press on the number to see all the calls to/from that number.
I'm a bit confused as I've used android for a while and all of my call logs have always been threaded. It shows a number or a contact and then when you click on that number it will show you all of the calls between you and that number. Also, the current root method is not one I would suggest for a beginner. ODIN is a very powerful tool, I like to call it a flamethrower; if you know how to use it properly it is massively powerful. If you don't, you'll end up blowing yourself up. There will be a one click method and I'll promise you that as a fellow mac user who has helped countless people root (I wrote one of the root guides for mac for the NS) that when a mac method comes along, I'll help you For the moment I'd just sit tight and get used to Android as stock.
My doesn't unless i'm severely overlooking it in the settings
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basically i want all the "Katrina" to show up as one threaded call rather then the multiple calls.
kenvan19 said:
I'm a bit confused as I've used android for a while and all of my call logs have always been threaded. It shows a number or a contact and then when you click on that number it will show you all of the calls between you and that number. Also, the current root method is not one I would suggest for a beginner. ODIN is a very powerful tool, I like to call it a flamethrower; if you know how to use it properly it is massively powerful. If you don't, you'll end up blowing yourself up. There will be a one click method and I'll promise you that as a fellow mac user who has helped countless people root (I wrote one of the root guides for mac for the NS) that when a mac method comes along, I'll help you For the moment I'd just sit tight and get used to Android as stock.
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Thank you very much, it's fun though, I wanted to transition to the S2 because my iPhone 4 was getting quite boring and the speeds sucked with T-mobile because of compatibility issues. For now i'll wait and hopefully a one click method does come up especially with a Mac as you said.
Any other tips for performance boost, battery life, or suggested apps?
le14 said:
My doesn't unless i'm severely overlooking it in the settings
here is a pic:
basically i want all the "Katrina" to show up as one threaded call rather then the multiple calls.
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le14 said:
Thank you very much, it's fun though, I wanted to transition to the S2 because my iPhone 4 was getting quite boring and the speeds sucked with T-mobile because of compatibility issues. For now i'll wait and hopefully a one click method does come up especially with a Mac as you said.
Any other tips for performance boost, battery life, or suggested apps?
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Oh crap, you're right about the threading! I just tried it and realized that apparently this version of TW does not. If we get an AOSP (Android Open Source Platform) rom then you'll get it for right now I have no clue. I'll play around with some settings but I've never used a phone/rom that did that.
As for battery tips I'm actually getting startlingly good battery life on the stock rom. Now, keeping in mind your coming from an iPhone my idea of "startlingly good" and your idea of "pretty close to abysmal" are near the same. Sadly, Android devices do not get very good battery life. You can pretty much expect about a day of moderate usage out of a huge phone like this and frankly it provides. Now, you'll have to adjust how/when you charge your phone. Its pretty standard for us to charge it overnight while we sleep.
If you have any other questions please let me know as I'll be happy to help you learn whatever you'd like
le14 said:
Hi, I recently jumped ship from the iPhone 4 to the galaxy S2 and so far I am liking it. I really do not know what or how to do a root but I would want to to get the full potential out of my phone (esp if it is as easy as jailbreaking was). I also was wondering where I can find different ROM's (from what I understand those are the interfaces) and which is best for speed, battery life, etc.
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I just came over from the iPhone also, and am enjoying this phone very much. My iPhone was jailbroken from day one, and I've been waiting to be able to root this one. The ability to root the T-mo version of the GS2 has just been released, so there aren't many custom roms to choose from as of yet. I'm also trying to keep stock so as to not disrupt the OTA update coming Nov. 13th to fix wifi calling.
le14 said:
As of now, i haven't done any mods to the phone except for apps through the marketplace. Any suggestions (I cannot do a root as of now because I have a mac and do not have access to a PC at the moment)? How easy is the root for a beginner?
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I'm also on a mac, and have been trying to get my hands on a windoze machine so I can root. Someone posted that they had success using VMware and a virtual win machine on their mac, but I haven't tried it.
le14 said:
Also, the one thing I miss from the iPhone and frankly any other phone (BB, etc.) is the threading on my call logs (same number, multiple calls, show up once and you press it to show all the times of calls) and how when I push phone on the other phones it would show up in Call Log and not in the actual numbers tab because, frankly many people do not use that as much anymore.
Is there a work around that for those two concerns at the moment if I do not root? If not, is there a work around if I do root?
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This. +1000000. I hate the call log because if you have one person who calls you frequently, your entire call log is filled with that person and nobody else. Since I use the call log to call people back, trying to find them can be very difficult. I've downloaded several call logs from the market, and the only one I've found so far that has the functionality we are looking for is Call History (free to download). Too bad it can't be integrated with the rest of the dialer functions. Oh, well. Another reason to root, I guess.
AmbroseAI said:
I just came over from the iPhone also, and am enjoying this phone very much. My iPhone was jailbroken from day one, and I've been waiting to be able to root this one. The ability to root the T-mo version of the GS2 has just been released, so there aren't many custom roms to choose from as of yet. I'm also trying to keep stock so as to not disrupt the OTA update coming Nov. 13th to fix wifi calling.
I'm also on a mac, and have been trying to get my hands on a windoze machine so I can root. Someone posted that they had success using VMware and a virtual win machine on their mac, but I haven't tried it.
This. +1000000. I hate the call log because if you have one person who calls you frequently, your entire call log is filled with that person and nobody else. Since I use the call log to call people back, trying to find them can be very difficult. I've downloaded several call logs from the market, and the only one I've found so far that has the functionality we are looking for is Call History (free to download). Too bad it can't be integrated with the rest of the dialer functions. Oh, well. Another reason to root, I guess.
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Yeah without the threading of the call log everything is so cluttered. I too use the call log mainly. Also, will rooting be able to fix this problem?
Also, coming from an iPhone 4, the battery life seems terrible on this (S2) in comparison (well maybe because I'm playing with it more and 4G) but i'm not sure if it's suppose to be this bad.
le14 said:
Yeah without the threading of the call log everything is so cluttered. I too use the call log mainly. Also, will rooting be able to fix this problem?
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I'm new to Android, so I could be mistaken, but I believe the call log design is part of touchwiz. When we get a new interface, or possibly upgrade to ICS, this problem should go away.
le14 said:
Also, coming from an iPhone 4, the battery life seems terrible on this (S2) in comparison (well maybe because I'm playing with it more and 4G) but i'm not sure if it's suppose to be this bad.
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I don't know how long you've had your phone, but the battery life on mine has improved after a few charges. I can easily make it through a typical day without charging, but for the first couple of days when I couldn't put the phone down, I definitely couldn't!
AmbroseAI said:
I'm new to Android, so I could be mistaken, but I believe the call log design is part of touchwiz. When we get a new interface, or possibly upgrade to ICS, this problem should go away.
I don't know how long you've had your phone, but the battery life on mine has improved after a few charges. I can easily make it through a typical day without charging, but for the first couple of days when I couldn't put the phone down, I definitely couldn't!
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That might explain it I just had the phone for about 2-3 days. Do you have any battery management apps (I had some but they seemed to do more harm then good so I deleted them)? Also, does your ringtone volume when someone calls in seem a bit low?
le14 said:
Do you have any battery management apps?
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I've been using the free version of JuiceDefender. I can't honestly say how much good it does since I downloaded it the first day and haven't compared it to any of the others and/or nothing at all.
le14 said:
Also, does your ringtone volume when someone calls in seem a bit low?
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The volume seems adequate, but as in all phones, it depends on the ringtone you're using. Some are more audible than others. Also, I find the vibrate feature helpful.
Install Go Dialer ex.. Better phone application. Also install Go sms pro
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pachi72 said:
Install Go Dialer ex.. Better phone application. Also install Go sms pro
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Go dialer seems like such a hassle though. Any way to get something built into the original phone application?
Also, in regards to volume levels of text, calls, alarms, etc. I think it's because of the placement of the speaker, which is right on the back of the phone so if you lay it on its' back it's kind of blocked so the volume level has decreased. They really should have thought that through before producing the phone and placed it on the curvature or on the side.
le14 said:
Go dialer seems like such a hassle though. Any way to get something built into the original phone application?
Also, in regards to volume levels of text, calls, alarms, etc. I think it's because of the placement of the speaker, which is right on the back of the phone so if you lay it on its' back it's kind of blocked so the volume level has decreased. They really should have thought that through before producing the phone and placed it on the curvature or on the side.
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That's the standard placement for Android phones.
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[Help] My Phone is slow no matter which rom...

Since like 2 days I was on GummyNex everything was always super fast no problems and now I cant get any rom to work good with my phone...
What happens:
1) App Drawer Lags (at random time it stops lagging , then lags again)
2) Scrolling through home screen lags (at random time , then lags again when scrolling again)
3) exiting any app (randomly starts lagging, then it's fine again)
i will post a video once my blackberry playbook gets charged I really dont know what to do!
tried gummy nex (now on AOKp) , tried android revolution
every rom has the same issue... installing for example franco kernel does nothing :/
i reall dont want to go back to stock.. but since android revolution is pretty much stock 4.0.2 i dont want to think that my gNex is screwed because I didnt buy insurance on the phone from VZW (the 6.99 monthly)
VIDEO:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SnCwyk_jPg&feature=youtu.be
1. factory reset?
2. fastboot flash google stock images... problem still happen?
if no, flash ROM.
MIUI rom with franco.Kernel turn my boring useless GN into much better phone. smooth, fast, and thousands of theme to choose from. it even make my screen much more beautiful.
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1. factory reset?
2. fastboot flash google stock images... problem still happen?
if no, flash ROM.
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1. Did it many times with recovery if thats what you mean
2. Would the tool that root your phone i forgot how was it called it did all the job for you (if i reverted and then flashed stock and root again) would that be ok?
right now AOKP seems to be okay it is really random... when I connect to USB from my PC it lags badly. I will wait few days and see what happens next but would like feedback from you anyway. tHanks!
@zeke I actually hate MIUI and the stock launcher is awful I like having app-drawer like in gingerbread roms ICS etc.. but thanks
patt2k said:
Since like 2 days I was on GummyNex everything was always super fast no problems and now I cant get any rom to work good with my phone...
What happens:
1) App Drawer Lags (at random time it stops lagging , then lags again)
2) Scrolling through home screen lags (at random time , then lags again when scrolling again)
3) exiting any app (randomly starts lagging, then it's fine again)
i will post a video once my blackberry playbook gets charged I really dont know what to do!
tried gummy nex (now on AOKp) , tried android revolution
every rom has the same issue... installing for example franco kernel does nothing :/
i reall dont want to go back to stock.. but since android revolution is pretty much stock 4.0.2 i dont want to think that my gNex is screwed because I didnt buy insurance on the phone from VZW (the 6.99 monthly)
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I'm stock and everything you're experiencing i am too. The phone is a bit laggy because of the HD res. But atleast opening programs and everything its super fast. I only lag when i scroll fast, most people don't even notice the lag. its all depends on you. I'm used to having a 120hz computer monitor, I notice lag on my old 60hz LCD monitor just by dragging around windows on my desktop.
Try this
First go to recovery, format all partitions one by one. if possible, copy all data of sdcard to computer and format it too.
Then using fastboot flash the recovery again. (if you dont know how to use fastboot, just ask)
using the recovery, install a fresh rom.
rayoubi said:
I'm stock and everything you're experiencing i am too. The phone is a bit laggy because of the HD res. But atleast opening programs and everything its super fast. I only lag when i scroll fast, most people don't even notice the lag. its all depends on you. I'm used to having a 120hz computer monitor, I notice lag on my old 60hz LCD monitor just by dragging around windows on my desktop.
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so I am not alone at least , fast scrolling also lags but when opening app drawer or pressing the navigation button it shouldnt lag for like 3-4 seconds like when you see that you pressed the button for those 3-4 seconds
ketanmatrix said:
Try this
First go to recovery, format all partitions one by one. if possible, copy all data of sdcard to computer and format it too.
Then using fastboot flash the recovery again. (if you dont know how to use fastboot, just ask)
using the recovery, install a fresh rom.
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I actually have no idea.. i just rooted using the root toolkit :/
so I would like to try using that fastbot flash recovery you are talking about so hopefully you can be my savior
*Bump
I fully restored to stock rom , locked bootloader , and LAG is still there I am really clueless on what to do. I bet samsungs warranty is 1 YEAR but if i send the phone i am left without a phone for a while I guess? but maybe they could be nice and send me advance phone. Love the phone but the slowness gets me :[
any other things I can try? like a diagnostic of some sort? anything to see if it became defective.. thank you guys
patt2k said:
Since like 2 days I was on GummyNex everything was always super fast no problems and now I cant get any rom to work good with my phone...
What happens:
1) App Drawer Lags (at random time it stops lagging , then lags again)
2) Scrolling through home screen lags (at random time , then lags again when scrolling again)
3) exiting any app (randomly starts lagging, then it's fine again)
i will post a video once my blackberry playbook gets charged I really dont know what to do!
tried gummy nex (now on AOKp) , tried android revolution
every rom has the same issue... installing for example franco kernel does nothing :/
i reall dont want to go back to stock.. but since android revolution is pretty much stock 4.0.2 i dont want to think that my gNex is screwed because I didnt buy insurance on the phone from VZW (the 6.99 monthly)
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Have you tried enabling Force GPU Acceleration under Developer Options in settings?
Papa Pearce said:
Have you tried enabling Force GPU Acceleration under Developer Options in settings?
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Yes sir :/
I even used the root toolkit and locked my bootloader , unlocked it again..
stayed with stock rom for a while and still lag... I couldnt upload video from my playbook so I will borrow my MOM's iPhone and show you guys. I do still have warranty I checked on samsung but do they send adavnce replacements? I dont want to be left with no phone at all
patt2k said:
Yes sir :/
I even used the root toolkit and locked my bootloader , unlocked it again..
stayed with stock rom for a while and still lag... I couldnt upload video from my playbook so I will borrow my MOM's iPhone and show you guys. I do still have warranty I checked on samsung but do they send adavnce replacements? I dont want to be left with no phone at all
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Unfortunately if you send it to Samsung they will not send you a phone first. What you have to do is get a loaner phone from Verizon or whatever you provider is. They'll give you a temporary replacement phone until Samsung sends you one back. I know this because I'm currently using a loaner phone from Verizon while my original GNex is going to Samsung for screen issues.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
Papa Pearce said:
Unfortunately if you send it to Samsung they will not send you a phone first. What you have to do is get a loaner phone from Verizon or whatever you provider is. They'll give you a temporary replacement phone until Samsung sends you one back. I know this because I'm currently using a loaner phone from Verizon while my original GNex is going to Samsung for screen issues.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
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What kind of Loaner phone did they provide you?
Thanks for the response. I am uploading video right now so please check back soon
EDIT:
Also when I tried going to samsung site and request service when you select Symptoms.. they didnt really have any that would match my issue like defective hardware.. all their symptoms are if you damaged the phone which makes no sence I think I will need to call them
I truly think its gotta be something with verizon nexus phones. Maybe they did something different we arent aware of with that version.
patt2k said:
What kind of Loaner phone did they provide you?
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Another Galaxy Nexus! Although I can't guarantee that you'll receive the same. If they try to give you something else or nothing at all, say you don't want to pay for half a billing cycle without being able to use the features you're paying for. You'll also need to show them the email from Samsung proving you're sending your phone to them.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
Papa Pearce said:
Another Galaxy Nexus! Although I can't guarantee that you'll receive the same. If they try to give you something else or nothing at all, say you don't want to pay for half a billing cycle without being able to use the features you're paying for. You'll also need to show them the email from Samsung proving you're sending your phone to them.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
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I didnt buy my phone directly from Verizon Store I bought it from Newegg.com so I assume I would have to deal with them so send me temporary phone. Video is being converted right now on youtube check back soon
No, I doubt Newegg would send you one. It wouldn't hurt to try both companies, but I would try a corporate Verizon store first, if not Verizon Customer Service.
EDIT: I wouldn't mention you bought if from newegg either by the way.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
Video Avaliable.
720p aswell.
I did best I could to catch any slowness
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SnCwyk_jPg&feature=youtu.be
patt2k said:
Since like 2 days I was on GummyNex everything was always super fast no problems and now I cant get any rom to work good with my phone...
What happens:
1) App Drawer Lags (at random time it stops lagging , then lags again)
2) Scrolling through home screen lags (at random time , then lags again when scrolling again)
3) exiting any app (randomly starts lagging, then it's fine again)
i will post a video once my blackberry playbook gets charged I really dont know what to do!
tried gummy nex (now on AOKp) , tried android revolution
every rom has the same issue... installing for example franco kernel does nothing :/
i reall dont want to go back to stock.. but since android revolution is pretty much stock 4.0.2 i dont want to think that my gNex is screwed because I didnt buy insurance on the phone from VZW (the 6.99 monthly)
VIDEO:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SnCwyk_jPg&feature=youtu.be
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Flash stock 4.0.2 radio. Mine was really bad and laggy with 4.0.4 radio.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium
Musik847 said:
Flash stock 4.0.2 radio. Mine was really bad and laggy with 4.0.4 radio.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium
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It's there since I re-rooted... I am running out of ideas besides going to verizon store..
EDIT: I think I found a temporary solution.. "Minimalistic Kernel" it's like a life -savior. But that still means there is some problem with the phone.. at least that wont make me RAGE everytime I see lag.
Still waiting for someone to watch my video and tell me what to do. Apperciate all the help !
Can someone explain to me how does minimalistic kernel basically make all those problems go away and even stock does not?
so much trouble and one simple flash made it go away but I still will have it serviced I will make few calls.
Sorry for double posting

Ultimate User Guide (Ask Me Anything)

Hi everybody,
Now that we have the proper forum, we can start discussing about this great device. I bought my device unlocked around November, so by now, I know pretty much all the features and things you can do with it. Also I have to say is my first Huawei phone, I come from Nexus (since Nexus 4) and I changed my Nexus 6 for a Moto Maxx (Droid Turbo) because it was too big for me.
I will be putting my own opinions about the different features of the phone, and this guide will be completed with new updates or information about the device. I will try to be short in order not to make this text unreadable, but feel free to ask anything about the device or functions, I will try to answer as soon as possible.
Design
I have to say the the feel on hand is AWESOME, there are no many words out of this one to describe the feeling you have when holding this device. The quality and feel is actually wonderful and Huawei made an impeccable work here, a really premium design.
Display
I have to say I come from a 2K display and I say that even when there is a difference, you won't be noticing a lot. The panel used on this phone is great quality and the colour reproduction is good. Besides this, you are able to configure the temperature colour of the screen in order to have warmer/colder colours on it.
The 2.5D curved Gorilla Glass is also a nice touch and it gives a more premium feeling and look.
Performance
This phone comes with 3GB on RAM and a Snapdragon 615, out of the Kirin that Huawei usually puts on their devices. For me, Qualcomm is always a better options, since Kirin (and Mediatek) use mediocre GPU on their devices, even when sometimes the raw power of the CPU is better than the one in Snapdragon processors. Performance overall is good for normal tasks, the only time I have noticed some lag is when browsing on heavy JavaScript sites and it even get a little unresponsive for few seconds only on Smart profile, it seems that with Normal profile everything is working as expected. Everyday applications runs fine (Gmail, Twitter, WhatsApp, Maps, Music).
For games, the performance is good and decent as well, you won't be running the latest games at 60fps, but the experience is pretty acceptable. I tested Asphalt 8 and Modern Combat 5 in maximum settings and they were running with no problem. Hearthstone is one game I always play, it runs really good and I haven't had any problem with that.
About overheat, I haven't noticed any of this while playing games or running applications, but I can say that recording long videos in 1080p can lead to overheat and consume battery quicker.
Camera
Another reason why I got this phone is the camera, pretty good aperture and most important of all: it has OIS. One of the few cameras out in the market that has proper stabilization, and for sure you can notice it when taking pictures and videos. The pictures taken with the phone are really nice, but as every phone, in low light conditions it starts to struggle. Camera application is really complete and with a lot of options.
One important thing to say is that pictures taken out of the box are really crappy and pale, so it is needed some tweaking in order to extract the best of this camera, which is not hard neither, interface is really intuitive and easy to manage.
Sound
We have only 1 bottom speaker, which I really dislike because of its position, but the sound is good and decent. But the important thing about the sound is not the speaker, but the magic comes when you connect your headphones, the sound is really nice, most probably because it comes signed by Dolby, but whatever they are doing with the sound, is a really enjoyable experience.
Battery Life
Good battery + decent display + mid-range processor = 2 days battery life. Most of the time I'm reaching 2 complete days of battery with around 4-5hrs SOT. I'm really happy with the battery life.
Sensors
The fingerprint sensor is really smooth and quick, I haven't had any problems with it and is a really nice thing to have in a phone. This phone comes with the normal sensors, BUT BE AWARE THAT IT DOESN'T COME WITH A GYROSCOPE. How this affect?, well, you won't be able to rotate automatically 360` videos, have VR on it or make Photosphere pictures. In case you want to change the perspective in 360` videos, you will have to do it manually with your finger. It doesn't affect for games or any other application as far as I noticed, but is something that really disappointed me of this device.
Software
I have to say that I have mixed feelings in this section, because even when we have a good Android release (5.1) and the additions Huawei put in Emui are 90% really usable and nice, it has still some issues and bugs.
First thing you will notice is that there is no application drawer, so all the application icons are in your screens, more like iOS style. The are tons of options and settings to configure, and you will need time to check each of them and understand how this is working. Emui has an aggressive memory management, so you will have to decide which applications can or can't run on the background, as well as if they will have permission to show notifications.
Maybe this can sounds a little annoying, and actually it is in the beginning, but when you start to see the advantages of this, you will be really happy with it. You will have for example no wakelocks or battery drain, because if you don't let the application run on the background, it won't. System applications of course don't need to be configured, they run as normal, so no worries about mails or stuff not working.
Is about using all the options and configure them in order to have a really good experience, but this usually take a couple of days, because it is so different from Android stock.
Tips, Tricks and Bugs
This section is for random things related to the phone and its applications. As everything, this phone is not perfect and is prone to bugs, so I will try to post some of them so the people can be conscious of both good and bad parts of this phone.
The software version I'm using is RIO-l01C432B150, but for the sake of make things easier, I will take the last 4 digits of the version, so I will say I'm running the B150. There is a new version (B170), but I haven't installed yet which seems to fix many of the issues as well as having security patches.
Settings for perfect pictures
The camera application comes with a lot of options, but the pictures are not nice out of the box, you need to tweak somehow the settings in order to get good and vivid colours. With the adjust of this settings, most of the time you will get really good results.
White Balance: Auto or Daylight (depends on you)
ISO: Auto
Exposure: -1
Saturation: +1
Contrast: -1
Bright: 0
WhatsApp Notifications (Fixed with B170)
It seems that Emui has a couple of problems with WhatsApp, sometimes notifications are not arriving and only when you open the application you start to receive messages. The last Play Store version of WhatsApp is not working for many people, so after many tests and trials, I found a version who works just fine and without problems:
http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/whatsapp-inc/whatsapp/whatsapp-2-12-374-4-android-apk-download/
WiFi Auto-connect (Fixed with B170)
Most of the time, the WiFi won't be connecting automatically to the known networks. Some people said that is just enough to delete the network and re-add it in order to make this feature work properly.
Energy Profiles (Personal Assumption)
The phone comes with 3 energy profiles: Ultra, Smart and Normal. Ultra is for making calls and receiving messages and disables most of the "smart" part of the phone. Smart is kind of battery saver without sacrificing too much performance and Normal is more like a performance profile for games and heavy stuff.
I have been testing somehow this profiles for a while, and for my point of view, they are kind of broken. I get almost the same battery life between Smart and Normal, and the performance is the same as well. To probe my theory, I made some benchmarks and I found that these 2 different profiles (which should be doing different things) get the same scores in almost all the benchmarks, even sometimes Smart profile is getting more score than the Normal, thing that should be inverse.
I don't know how these profiles work, but I think that Normal is the one bugged and probably that's why I have noticed lag sometimes in the device, because is not taking advantage of the full capacities of the processor. Even when both profiles get the same score on benchmarks, on Normal mode the lag from browsing is gone.
Lockscreen Notifications
By default, the Lock-screen is not able to show notifications or the screen won't turn on when a notifications comes, like "Ambient Display" style. To make this happen, you have to install a theme compatible with this function, which currently is enabled on the latest Huawei phone, the Mate 8. Just unzip the themes on the Hwthemes folder and select them from the Themes application. After this, new options will appear on the Lock-screen menu from settings and you will be able to configure it from there.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/6scl0dfddpdnev5/Mate-8-stock-theme-(Gizdev.com).rar
Enabling Gyroscope (Root)
For some reason, Huawei didn't enable the gyroscope on the G8, but there is a way to make it work. You have to download the file, and put them here " /system/etc/permissions", then give the proper permissions the them (" rw-r--r-- (644)") and reboot the phone. You will have a working gyroscope now.
https://mega.nz/#!pEEGFLbJ!scUWYUCZ_uGM7TyaaJPu7O8YfVgnk4DyCT7jSWCW35E
Hide Navigation Bar (Root)
There is a way to have this function that comes in other Huawei devices as well, we just have to edit the "build.prop" file and change the line "ro.config.showNavigationBar=true". After this, we save the file, we reboot and we go to Settings>Navigation Bar and we will find a new option to show or hide the navigation bar.
Multimedia
I will be posting some pictures because for some people camera is really important, and even when this is not an expensive phone, camera is pretty decent.
About the video, I don't have at the moment any samples, but I have to say that image quality is good as well, but in really loud environments (clubs, concerts) the microphone get saturated and this will lead to some crappy sound in videos.
Video: https://goo.gl/photos/S8zA5M82ioTe68HJ8
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Can you install one of the apps "Hardware info" or "cpu-z" and test the sensors? And maybe post a screenshot?
Some say there is a gyroscope, some say there is none...
Is there an ambient light sensor in g8?
Bib_x said:
Can you install one of the apps "Hardware info" or "cpu-z" and test the sensors? And maybe post a screenshot?
Some say there is a gyroscope, some say there is none...
Is there an ambient light sensor in g8?
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I already made the test in the past, and for sure there is no gyroscope here. I tried the same videos on my old phone and they were working there, but not on this phone.
About the ambient sensor, yes it comes with one.
Galaxo60 said:
I already made the test in the past, and for sure there is no gyroscope here. I tried the same videos on my old phone and they were working there, but not on this phone.
About the ambient sensor, yes it comes with one.
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But when i change position of my phone, it will switch automatically from landscape to portrait mode?
Can i play car racing games where i can steer my car with moving and turning the phone?
So when this only will affect taking photos or videos - it´s not a big fault for me.
Bib_x said:
But when i change position of my phone, it will switch automatically from landscape to portrait mode?
Can i play car racing games where i can steer my car with moving and turning the phone?
So when this only will affect taking photos or videos - it´s not a big fault for me.
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Yes, because all those tasks are made with the Accelerometer, not with the Gyroscope, the phone changes automatically to landscape or portrait with no problem.
I tested Asphalt 8 and it runs perfectly fine with just turning the device to the right or left, so no worries here because of that.
My girlfriend has a european g8 and she's so frustrated because of the missing whatsapp notifications and wifi autoreconnect bug.. Downloading now a b170 fw hope it will really fix those bugs..
Did you see this guys? Is this true or fake? and if it is true, what's that Aosp or cm13?
http://android-xda.net/tutorial/upgrade-update-huawei-g8/
moly82 said:
My girlfriend has a european g8 and she's so frustrated because of the missing whatsapp notifications and wifi autoreconnect bug.. Downloading now a b170 fw hope it will really fix those bugs..
Did you see this guys? Is this true or fake? and if it is true, what's that Aosp or cm13?
http://android-xda.net/tutorial/upgrade-update-huawei-g8/
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The update is fake, Huawei never put their software updates on 3 parts, and most of the page just have the same text and same screenshots for the phones they claim to have a different ROM.
About the WiFi bug, there is nothing we can't make, but as for WhatsApp, install the version I gave on the "Tips, Tricks and Bugs" section and it will be fixed, trust me.
Just remember that B170 is an update for single SIM G8.
Thanks mate! Yes I've already installed the whatsapp version you suggested, and it seems to be working fine now, let's see if it will stay like that
About the wifi that's a very big and bad bug..Let's hope they'll fix it soon! why they don't release b170 also fit dual sim
thank you bye!
Did you root your phone and unlock the bootloader already?
In the german forum there was written, that you can´t install huawei updates OTA anymore if rooted.
How can you make an update if you rooted your phone? Downloading stock rom from support page and flash manually?
There are many people with wlan problems with the newest rom B160. No automatic connect in home network. If this big issue will be fixed soon, perhaps i will buy the g8.
Bib_x said:
Did you root your phone and unlock the bootloader already?
In the german forum there was written, that you can´t install huawei updates OTA anymore if rooted.
How can you make an update if you rooted your phone? Downloading stock rom from support page and flash manually?
There are many people with wlan problems with the newest rom B160. No automatic connect in home network. If this big issue will be fixed soon, perhaps i will buy the g8.
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I haven't done that yet, not root or unlock bootloader, I don't see the need yet, because stock has for me everything I currently need.
About the updates, Is not about the root, but about the recovery. Usually when you root, you install first a custom recovery, so when the OTA comes, it can't update automatically because it doesn't recognize the recovery and it fails. Many people is going back to stock, make an update and then root again, I think is the safest way to have the latest updates and root.
About the WiFi problems, many people claim that B170 already fixes this issue and also the notifications problem, which are the most important bugs for this phone.
Galaxo60 said:
I haven't done that yet, not root or unlock bootloader, I don't see the need yet, because stock has for me everything I currently need.
About the updates, Is not about the root, but about the recovery. Usually when you root, you install first a custom recovery, so when the OTA comes, it can't update automatically because it doesn't recognize the recovery and it fails. Many people is going back to stock, make an update and then root again, I think is the safest way to have the latest updates and root.
About the WiFi problems, many people claim that B170 already fixes this issue and also the notifications problem, which are the most important bugs for this phone.
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But currently B170 is out for single-sim only?
In germany i get the dual-sim version i think.
If i root my phone and want to update - go back to stock means, flash the whole stock rom with twrp and then twrp is removed automatically too?
Yes b170 only for single sim ;( in Italy also there is only dual sim
Bib_x said:
But currently B170 is out for single-sim only?
In germany i get the dual-sim version i think.
If i root my phone and want to update - go back to stock means, flash the whole stock rom with twrp and then twrp is removed automatically too?
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moly82 said:
Yes b170 only for single sim ;( in Italy also there is only dual sim
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Yes, B170 is only for single sim, even though I have heard about a B160 (from France) which maybe could be dual sim, but I'm not sure.
If you want to go back to stock, you should flash the whole system image I think, not only the ROM. You have to be sure you have the stock recovery and ROM in order to have a successful update. Some people is trying to flash B170 while having root and they are bricking their phones or in a boot-loop, they can't even enter to recovery; so never update if you are root.
:fingers-crossed:
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Yes, B170 is only for single sim, even though I have heard about a B160 (from France) which maybe could be dual sim, but I'm not sure.
If you want to go back to stock, you should flash the whole system image I think, not only the ROM. You have to be sure you have the stock recovery and ROM in order to have a successful update. Some people is trying to flash B170 while having root and they are bricking their phones or in a boot-loop, they can't even enter to recovery; so never update if you are root.
:fingers-crossed:
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There is a B160 ROM for Dual SIM in Hungary, I can search for it and post the link here
Matada02 said:
There is a B160 ROM for Dual SIM in Hungary, I can search for it and post the link here
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I think is better if you post it on the ROM thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gx8/how-to/g8-g7-plus-official-roms-europe-t3294362
Huawei Union Y538 Root?
Huawei Union Y538 Root?
alan2121m said:
Huawei Union Y538 Root?
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Please don't post this kind of things here, is a different device.
I can get the Huawei GX 8 or the Huawei Mate S for the same price.
Which of them would you prefer if the price is the same? Still GX8 or in this case would you change to Mate S?

For the first time in years, I feel like I need root

Coming from a long line of Samsung phones, including a Note 7, I'm loving this new pixel Xl.
However, one thing I've been noticing is the lack of little things I've gotten used to with Samsung.
Examples include:
No way to get battery percentage without opening quick settings
Wonky workaround for hotspot on vzw unlimited (not Google's fault)
No way to put phone on mute or speaker while on the phone from notification tray; have to go into the call itself to adjust these settings
Multi-window only allows you to split apps in the way Google wants you to, for example I can't leave a YouTube window barely on the screen and chrome open to most of the rest of the screen. This was very useful when watching somebody talk about something you don't need to see while browsing the web
There are always on display alternatives but to get them to properly use doze you need root
I am almost sure somebody is going to make that speaker mod I've seen on other phones that uses the earpiece as a second speaker, which in the past required root
I may want to rearrange my back and recent apps button because I'm used to it the other way around thanks to Samsung. But I'll live
I've been hearing about screen brightness mods to make the screen go super bright in the sun, matching brightness levels of this year's Samsung phones, but that modifies the kernel requiring root.
My past Samsung phones, although clearly not perfect, had most of these features easily avaliable or built in, and I was able to make them fast enough and usable with non root options like package disabler and startup managers. This time around I'm having the opposite problem, instead of having to disable unnecessary things, I need to add things that have been omitted.
The most unfortunate thing is I have a Verizon purchased, locked down bootloader pixel xl. Is root likely even without a bootloader unlock? I've had nexus devices and realize this isn't the same type of device. But I hope it is in the near future. Otherwise I see myself possibly returning this phone and buying a Craigslist Google store pre-order for $1100. (I know I know but root may be worth it)
Also if anyone has any ideas we could make this into an idea thread for root mods.
Basically the point of this post is to see if root is coming, I don't really need a bootloader unlock as badly because most of these mods only require root not any kernel mods or custom rows. I'm not complaining about the pixel it's a great phone, I'd just love to make it better than it is when looked at in comparison to say a Samsung.
I only have an answer to one of your issues -- that of the battery percentage. This is built in but is a bit hidden.
You'll need to enable the System UI tuner:
Code:
Swipe down from the top.
Tap the down arrow.
Hold down on the Settings icon.
Observe the System UI Tuner notification.
In Settings, tap System UI Tuner.
Tap Got It.
Inside of System UI tuner is an entry for "Battery" allowing one to "Always show percentage"
manxam said:
I only have an answer to one of your issues -- that of the battery percentage. This is built in but is a bit hidden.
You'll need to enable the System UI tuner:
Code:
Swipe down from the top.
Tap the down arrow.
Hold down on the Settings icon.
Observe the System UI Tuner notification.
In Settings, tap System UI Tuner.
Tap Got It.
Inside of System UI tuner is an entry for "Battery" allowing one to "Always show percentage"
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Thank you. Google support was never going to tell me that one! :good:
Samzebian said:
Coming from a long line of Samsung phones, including a Note 7, I'm loving this new pixel Xl.
However, one thing I've been noticing is the lack of little things I've gotten used to with Samsung.
Examples include:
No way to get battery percentage without opening quick settings
Wonky workaround for hotspot on vzw unlimited (not Google's fault)
No way to put phone on mute or speaker while on the phone from notification tray; have to go into the call itself to adjust these settings
Multi-window only allows you to split apps in the way Google wants you to, for example I can't leave a YouTube window barely on the screen and chrome open to most of the rest of the screen. This was very useful when watching somebody talk about something you don't need to see while browsing the web
There are always on display alternatives but to get them to properly use doze you need root
I am almost sure somebody is going to make that speaker mod I've seen on other phones that uses the earpiece as a second speaker, which in the past required root
I may want to rearrange my back and recent apps button because I'm used to it the other way around thanks to Samsung. But I'll live
I've been hearing about screen brightness mods to make the screen go super bright in the sun, matching brightness levels of this year's Samsung phones, but that modifies the kernel requiring root.
My past Samsung phones, although clearly not perfect, had most of these features easily avaliable or built in, and I was able to make them fast enough and usable with non root options like package disabler and startup managers. This time around I'm having the opposite problem, instead of having to disable unnecessary things, I need to add things that have been omitted.
The most unfortunate thing is I have a Verizon purchased, locked down bootloader pixel xl. Is root likely even without a bootloader unlock? I've had nexus devices and realize this isn't the same type of device. But I hope it is in the near future. Otherwise I see myself possibly returning this phone and buying a Craigslist Google store pre-order for $1100. (I know I know but root may be worth it)
Also if anyone has any ideas we could make this into an idea thread for root mods.
Basically the point of this post is to see if root is coming, I don't really need a bootloader unlock as badly because most of these mods only require root not any kernel mods or custom rows. I'm not complaining about the pixel it's a great phone, I'd just love to make it better than it is when looked at in comparison to say a Samsung.
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What it the wonky hotspot workaround that you found?
DaPoets said:
What it the wonky hotspot workaround that you found?
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install app called network signal refresher, refresh signal and immediately turning on hotspot while refreshing
Credit:jphillips.hd88
http://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-xl/help/native-hotspot-verizon-unlimited-data-t3483538/page5
I was using Foxfi before, so that was also wonky but I'm not as used to this method
yeah you can install foxfi app and pdanet on your computer and this work around has been working for me for the past year been using insane amounts of data to tether. Yeah I say root it, unlock your bootloader now cuz it will wipe your device and wait for twrp to become available which should take like a week or two. I rooted my 6p a week after I had it. Using franco kernel which brightened my display and made my whites from yellow to white, using viperfx for unbelievable sound. I've never had a samsung but I can tell you one thing google phones always have the best development I believe the developer support is outstanding!
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yeah you can install foxfi app and pdanet on your computer and this work around has been working for me for the past year been using insane amounts of data to tether. Yeah I say root it, unlock your bootloader now cuz it will wipe your device and wait for twrp to become available which should take like a week or two. I rooted my 6p a week after I had it. Using franco kernel which brightened my display and made my whites from yellow to white, using viperfx for unbelievable sound. I've never had a samsung but I can tell you one thing google phones always have the best development I believe the developer support is outstanding!
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He has to overcome the locked Verizon bootloader issue initially. Some phones have gotten root with a locked bootloader using kexec as a workaround. I expect our devs here to completely crack this thing though.
Short answer is yes it's been done, but certainly not the norm. Usually the bootloader unlock is the primary goal which then makes root easy.
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Samzebian said:
Coming from a long line of Samsung phones, including a Note 7, I'm loving this new pixel Xl.
However, one thing I've been noticing is the lack of little things I've gotten used to with Samsung.
Examples include:
No way to get battery percentage without opening quick settings
Wonky workaround for hotspot on vzw unlimited (not Google's fault)
No way to put phone on mute or speaker while on the phone from notification tray; have to go into the call itself to adjust these settings
Multi-window only allows you to split apps in the way Google wants you to, for example I can't leave a YouTube window barely on the screen and chrome open to most of the rest of the screen. This was very useful when watching somebody talk about something you don't need to see while browsing the web
There are always on display alternatives but to get them to properly use doze you need root
I am almost sure somebody is going to make that speaker mod I've seen on other phones that uses the earpiece as a second speaker, which in the past required root
I may want to rearrange my back and recent apps button because I'm used to it the other way around thanks to Samsung. But I'll live
I've been hearing about screen brightness mods to make the screen go super bright in the sun, matching brightness levels of this year's Samsung phones, but that modifies the kernel requiring root.
My past Samsung phones, although clearly not perfect, had most of these features easily avaliable or built in, and I was able to make them fast enough and usable with non root options like package disabler and startup managers. This time around I'm having the opposite problem, instead of having to disable unnecessary things, I need to add things that have been omitted.
The most unfortunate thing is I have a Verizon purchased, locked down bootloader pixel xl. Is root likely even without a bootloader unlock? I've had nexus devices and realize this isn't the same type of device. But I hope it is in the near future. Otherwise I see myself possibly returning this phone and buying a Craigslist Google store pre-order for $1100. (I know I know but root may be worth it)
Also if anyone has any ideas we could make this into an idea thread for root mods.
Basically the point of this post is to see if root is coming, I don't really need a bootloader unlock as badly because most of these mods only require root not any kernel mods or custom rows. I'm not complaining about the pixel it's a great phone, I'd just love to make it better than it is when looked at in comparison to say a Samsung.
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This is what scares me about switching. There are a lot of Samsung features that I have become accustomed to. A lot of people think their features in android when their only available on Samsung phones.
I think systemui tuner also has an option to switch the navbar buttons. I am on a OnePlus one awaiting my new phone but I saw it when I played with 7.0 previously. Currently back on cm13 for stability.
Thanks so much for this info finally I can see my battery percentage. Not a big deal to some but coming from the og droid turbo I wanted to see how this battery held up in comparison.
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buzzy3970 said:
This is what scares me about switching. There are a lot of Samsung features that I have become accustomed to. A lot of people think their features in android when their only available on Samsung phones.
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This may be true, however for somebody like me, I use a majority of the features exclusive to Samsung phones and love them, and so far nothing has been a deal breaker with this pixel xl. Definitely some annoyances, but nothing major. The speed and reliability differences with this phone versus even my note 7 more than outweigh the loss of features. I swear this phone may take me away from Samsung for the next few years. It's THAT good!
You can get a small battery percentage within the battery icon by enabling it in the System UI Tuner
This is a screenshot from my Nexus 6, but should be the same.
manxam said:
I only have an answer to one of your issues -- that of the battery percentage. This is built in but is a bit hidden.
You'll need to enable the System UI tuner:
Code:
Swipe down from the top.
Tap the down arrow.
Hold down on the Settings icon.
Observe the System UI Tuner notification.
In Settings, tap System UI Tuner.
Tap Got It.
Inside of System UI tuner is an entry for "Battery" allowing one to "Always show percentage"
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This doesn't pop up for me on my Verizon edition. Nothing pops up when I hold down the settings icon. Any idea?
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droidiac13 said:
This doesn't pop up for me on my Verizon edition. Nothing pops up when I hold down the settings icon. Any idea?
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I too tried this on my buddy's Verizon pixel. It did not work. It works on my Google pixel. Another Verizon handicap. I feel sorry for Verizon customers
I just did it on my Verizon pixel. Hold down about 3-4 seconds and I got a congratulations I've done it!
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I can confirm on Verizon. Did it a couple of nights ago.
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I just did it on my Verizon pixel. Hold down about 3-4 seconds and I got a congratulations I've done it!
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Took a few tries, but I now have it. Thank you.
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I can confirm on Verizon. Did it a couple of nights ago.
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I know this is off topic, but how well does your Gear S2 work with the Pixel? I need to pick up a new smartwatch as I had the Gear S and it doesn't work with the Pixel. Does the Gear S2 use all of the capabilities it comes with? Been looking at the Huawei.
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droidiac13 said:
I know this is off topic, but how well does your Gear S2 work with the Pixel? I need to pick up a new smartwatch as I had the Gear S and it doesn't work with the Pixel. Does the Gear S2 use all of the capabilities it comes with? Been looking at the Huawei.
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It works very well with the Pixel actually. I was quite surprised. I have had no issues yet.
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Isn't the Gear specific to Samsung phones? Doesn't it use Tizen instead of Android Wear? I don't think they are compatible with any phones other than Samsung ones. I could be wrong though. I use a Moto 360 v2.

General OS 12 is now Ready for Aquos R6

You can update using the step on my another thread.
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UI looks cleaner and neater now. Camera shutter lags also gone. Great update
Yeah I updated it yesterday too.
So far overall phone performance is even better than android 11. More importantly the shutter lag is gone.
I have upgraded my Docomo Sharp Aquos R6 to Andriod 12, and find that the battery drain very fast even the phone is not in use. Anyone has similar experience? It is similar to the very first version of firmware when R6 just released
smithsmit said:
I have upgraded my Docomo Sharp Aquos R6 to Andriod 12, and find that the battery drain very fast even the phone is not in use. Anyone has similar experience? It is similar to the very first version of firmware when R6 just released
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Just want to remind you that after update, any android phone will heat up and drain battery for minutes/hour, because it reindex the file on the phone, this might even more noticeable if you have plenty of data like me.
Also, since you just clear the google play services and framework data so that you can update, that services will also do plenty of task, re-sync up your photos, etc
in my case, i just plug the phone and leave it connected to wifi for a night, and everything will be fine in the morning. All background task done.
otonieru said:
Just want to remind you that after update, any android phone will heat up and drain battery for minutes/hour, because it reindex the file on the phone, this might even more noticeable if you have plenty of data like me.
Also, since you just clear the google play services and framework data so that you can update, that services will also do plenty of task, re-sync up your photos, etc
in my case, i just plug the phone and leave it connected to wifi for a night, and everything will be fine in the morning. All background task done.
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Thx for your reply, but I'd been updated and used it for a few days. The battery drain issue is still here. My R6 is the very first batch which has similar issue with the first few firmware versions. The sitiation was fixed after updating the Carrier Services a few times. For this latest firmware, the problem is not fixed yet.
smithsmit said:
Thx for your reply, but I'd been updated and used it for a few days. The battery drain issue is still here. My R6 is the very first batch which has similar issue with the first few firmware versions. The sitiation was fixed after updating the Carrier Services a few times. For this latest firmware, the problem is not fixed yet.
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I see. Have you tried updating the carrier services again ? I got it like, almost every two days, dunno what google is thinking . Have you also check what is actually draining your battery ?
when on android 11, it's actually the stock messaging app that drain my battery, somehow it bugged and keep the phone wake up all the time. I disable it, and use google messages app, and everything is good.
You can use brevent app if you want as well. It can disable any system app or automatically suspend one which already idle more than certain minutes. (Mine set to 30 minutes) All without need of root, just using wireless debugging directly on the phone. I use it to debloat my phone.
Bellow is the list of app which i disabled btw. Mostly is japanese app which you don't need if you live outside japan.
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I see. Have you tried updating the carrier services again ? I got it like, almost every two days, dunno what google is thinking . Have you also check what is actually draining your battery ?
when on android 11, it's actually the stock messaging app that drain my battery, somehow it bugged and keep the phone wake up all the time. I disable it, and use google messages app, and everything is good.
You can use brevent app if you want as well. It can disable any system app or automatically suspend one which already idle more than certain minutes. (Mine set to 30 minutes) All without need of root, just using wireless debugging directly on the phone. I use it to debloat my phone.
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Yes, I hv got all the apps including Carrier Services updated. I checked the battery usage and found that Phone idle and Android System used unreasonable high battery. The R6 becomes warm easily, well, I mean easier than before even I just used it for FB App.
Latest OTA update is available with March Security Update
Info : https://www.docomo.ne.jp/support/product_update/sh51b/index.html#p05
Guys, I'm interested in R7, but it's a long time since I've had a Sharp phone in my hand. Therefore, I would appreciate if you'd share some knowledge about existing R6 with me.
1. What is this fuzz about the update? Isn't it a given to every R6 to receive OTA?
2. Does the phone come with Google? Full packet or minimum framework (GPay, Android Auto Assistant)?
3. Does it have AOS?
4. Can the launcher be replaced (with Nova, for example)?
5. Any problems with bank apps?
6. ADB remove system apps - anybody tried?
Thanks a lot for every answer.
piskr said:
Guys, I'm interested in R7, but it's a long time since I've had a Sharp phone in my hand. Therefore, I would appreciate if you'd share some knowledge about existing R6 with me.
1. What is this fuzz about the update? Isn't it a given to every R6 to receive OTA?
2. Does the phone come with Google? Full packet or minimum framework (GPay, Android Auto Assistant)?
3. Does it have AOS?
4. Can the launcher be replaced (with Nova, for example)?
5. Any problems with bank apps?
6. ADB remove system apps - anybody tried?
Thanks a lot for every answer.
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1. R6 is a Japan phone, in which, you can only get OTA by doing some procedures. So you wont be able to be notified for the OTA just like when you use other phone. Not all users know ehere to check for the info about latest update. The info is available only in japanese language. Thus, this is not a fuzz, but rather an informations for fellow users. Especially when we found the update been helpful in fixing some of bugs/annoyance in phone usability.
2. It come with full Google package
3. It's not AOSP. But it still pretty much Vanilla Android, with some extra/japanese region based features added by sharp.
4. Am running NOVA on my R6, straight swap, since the OS setting itself is Vanilla, it's very easy
5. Am using 5 Bank apps and total 10 of financial related apps, all works as intended, verification and elses.
6. No, i didn't tried ADB remove, since i don't find it appealing. I can simply disable unwanted app using Brevent app. And by not removing anything from the OS, i can ensure i always able to get an OTA as well. And because this phone has SD card slot, i do not worry about storage space. Most of my media (Video, Music, Docs) stored in SD Card. 128GB of internal space only used for apps.
otonieru said:
1. R6 is a Japan phone, in which, you can only get OTA by doing some procedures. So you wont be able to be notified for the OTA just like when you use other phone. Not all users know ehere to check for the info about latest update. The info is available only in japanese language. Thus, this is not a fuzz, but rather an informations for fellow users. Especially when we found the update been helpful in fixing some of bugs/annoyance in phone usability.
2. It come with full Google package
3. It's not AOSP. But it still pretty much Vanilla Android, with some extra/japanese region based features added by sharp.
4. Am running NOVA on my R6, straight swap, since the OS setting itself is Vanilla, it's very easy
5. Am using 5 Bank apps and total 10 of financial related apps, all works as intended, verification and elses.
6. No, i didn't tried ADB remove, since i don't find it appealing. I can simply disable unwanted app using Brevent app. And by not removing anything from the OS, i can ensure i always able to get an OTA as well. And because this phone has SD card slot, i do not worry about storage space. Most of my media (Video, Music, Docs) stored in SD Card. 128GB of internal space only used for apps.
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Thank you for your really fast and thorough answer. Sorry, I didn't mean to insult with the fuzz, just didn't know the circumstances, I used a lot of kinda exotic phones and always got OTA. But I understand and appreciate every help from the community side. It's always welcome.
I think I got answers to my questions and all are satisfactory. Though under 3 I made a typo, the question was about always on display. And with ADB you don't really remove anything and therefore don't influence OTA, just disable the unwanted bloatware for the primary user.
Thanks again. I suppose that you're satisfied with the phone? And updates are pretty decent too since you've got A12 already?
piskr said:
Thank you for your really fast and thorough answer. Sorry, I didn't mean to insult with the fuzz, just didn't know the circumstances, I used a lot of kinda exotic phones and always got OTA. But I understand and appreciate every help from the community side. It's always welcome.
I think I got answers to my questions and all are satisfactory. Though under 3 I made a typo, the question was about always on display. And with ADB you don't really remove anything and therefore don't influence OTA, just disable the unwanted bloatware for the primary user.
Thanks again. I suppose that you're satisfied with the phone? And updates are pretty decent too since you've got A12 already?
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AOD is not recommended on this phone,
as great as sharp's IGZO OLED screen is, it still lack something compared to samsung's. If you turn on AOD, the screen will have a retention image rather quickly. And, thinking about long term use, i decide to turn it off.
the screen itself is great tho, in term of color rendition, contrast and resolution. The refresh rate is great as well. Sure 240hz is achieved in pseudo way, but in most cases it feel as fluid as it can be. If you find certain app with funny scrolling feeling, i suggest you turn off high speed display mode for those app, so it will stay on 120Hz mode.
Am satisfied with the phone, yes. Especially for the price, and what i got with that price. At the time of buying, any other SD888 phone with similar specs will cost me 1.5-2x than what i spent for this phone. So that affect my expectation for this phone as well (i don't expect the olympic, lol)
Updates is pretty decent, i think, averaging to 1 update every two months, sometimes 1 update each month. More than what i expect from a company who barely have any models sold in my country
Yes my has like image retention already but oddly it only shows up in certain shades of grey, I don't think is fullly burn on though
Hi, I was wondering with theot of good update news how sharps update policy is? How many OS updates will a sharp device get?
Unknown.unknown said:
Hi, I was wondering with theot of good update news how sharps update policy is? How many OS updates will a sharp device get?
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Well, since in this case we are buying phone from carrier instead of OEM, so it depends which carrier you choose,
as for Docomo, you can predict from their website,
the phone released in 2019 are still getting update until 2022
while one released in 2017, still getting it up to 2021
you can take a look yourself here : https://www.docomo.ne.jp/support/product_update/
so i guess 3-4 years security support. Not sure about major android version update.
but for specific example , Aquos R2 was released in 2018 with Android 8.0, it got Android OS updates in 2019 (to 9.0) , and 2020 (to 10.0), while in 2021 it only got security updates and bugfixing. (so i guess around 2 major OS updates ?)
And today my R6 just got it's 9th Update for latest security patch.
Hi guys, I recently update to 12, however my R6 got a problem that when I unlock a phone, it takes a bit time to open it, like 10s. Do you guys know how to fix that one? Thanks.
otonieru said:
Well, since in this case we are buying phone from carrier instead of OEM, so it depends which carrier you choose,
as for Docomo, you can predict from their website,
the phone released in 2019 are still getting update until 2022
while one released in 2017, still getting it up to 2021
you can take a look yourself here : https://www.docomo.ne.jp/support/product_update/
so i guess 3-4 years security support. Not sure about major android version update.
but for specific example , Aquos R2 was released in 2018 with Android 8.0, it got Android OS updates in 2019 (to 9.0) , and 2020 (to 10.0), while in 2021 it only got security updates and bugfixing. (so i guess around 2 major OS updates ?)
And today my R6 just got it's 9th Update for latest security patch.
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btw: I intended buy R6; how battery life? how time on-screen? thanks!

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