Ultimate User Guide (Ask Me Anything) - Huawei GX8

Hi everybody,
Now that we have the proper forum, we can start discussing about this great device. I bought my device unlocked around November, so by now, I know pretty much all the features and things you can do with it. Also I have to say is my first Huawei phone, I come from Nexus (since Nexus 4) and I changed my Nexus 6 for a Moto Maxx (Droid Turbo) because it was too big for me.
I will be putting my own opinions about the different features of the phone, and this guide will be completed with new updates or information about the device. I will try to be short in order not to make this text unreadable, but feel free to ask anything about the device or functions, I will try to answer as soon as possible.
Design
I have to say the the feel on hand is AWESOME, there are no many words out of this one to describe the feeling you have when holding this device. The quality and feel is actually wonderful and Huawei made an impeccable work here, a really premium design.
Display
I have to say I come from a 2K display and I say that even when there is a difference, you won't be noticing a lot. The panel used on this phone is great quality and the colour reproduction is good. Besides this, you are able to configure the temperature colour of the screen in order to have warmer/colder colours on it.
The 2.5D curved Gorilla Glass is also a nice touch and it gives a more premium feeling and look.
Performance
This phone comes with 3GB on RAM and a Snapdragon 615, out of the Kirin that Huawei usually puts on their devices. For me, Qualcomm is always a better options, since Kirin (and Mediatek) use mediocre GPU on their devices, even when sometimes the raw power of the CPU is better than the one in Snapdragon processors. Performance overall is good for normal tasks, the only time I have noticed some lag is when browsing on heavy JavaScript sites and it even get a little unresponsive for few seconds only on Smart profile, it seems that with Normal profile everything is working as expected. Everyday applications runs fine (Gmail, Twitter, WhatsApp, Maps, Music).
For games, the performance is good and decent as well, you won't be running the latest games at 60fps, but the experience is pretty acceptable. I tested Asphalt 8 and Modern Combat 5 in maximum settings and they were running with no problem. Hearthstone is one game I always play, it runs really good and I haven't had any problem with that.
About overheat, I haven't noticed any of this while playing games or running applications, but I can say that recording long videos in 1080p can lead to overheat and consume battery quicker.
Camera
Another reason why I got this phone is the camera, pretty good aperture and most important of all: it has OIS. One of the few cameras out in the market that has proper stabilization, and for sure you can notice it when taking pictures and videos. The pictures taken with the phone are really nice, but as every phone, in low light conditions it starts to struggle. Camera application is really complete and with a lot of options.
One important thing to say is that pictures taken out of the box are really crappy and pale, so it is needed some tweaking in order to extract the best of this camera, which is not hard neither, interface is really intuitive and easy to manage.
Sound
We have only 1 bottom speaker, which I really dislike because of its position, but the sound is good and decent. But the important thing about the sound is not the speaker, but the magic comes when you connect your headphones, the sound is really nice, most probably because it comes signed by Dolby, but whatever they are doing with the sound, is a really enjoyable experience.
Battery Life
Good battery + decent display + mid-range processor = 2 days battery life. Most of the time I'm reaching 2 complete days of battery with around 4-5hrs SOT. I'm really happy with the battery life.
Sensors
The fingerprint sensor is really smooth and quick, I haven't had any problems with it and is a really nice thing to have in a phone. This phone comes with the normal sensors, BUT BE AWARE THAT IT DOESN'T COME WITH A GYROSCOPE. How this affect?, well, you won't be able to rotate automatically 360` videos, have VR on it or make Photosphere pictures. In case you want to change the perspective in 360` videos, you will have to do it manually with your finger. It doesn't affect for games or any other application as far as I noticed, but is something that really disappointed me of this device.
Software
I have to say that I have mixed feelings in this section, because even when we have a good Android release (5.1) and the additions Huawei put in Emui are 90% really usable and nice, it has still some issues and bugs.
First thing you will notice is that there is no application drawer, so all the application icons are in your screens, more like iOS style. The are tons of options and settings to configure, and you will need time to check each of them and understand how this is working. Emui has an aggressive memory management, so you will have to decide which applications can or can't run on the background, as well as if they will have permission to show notifications.
Maybe this can sounds a little annoying, and actually it is in the beginning, but when you start to see the advantages of this, you will be really happy with it. You will have for example no wakelocks or battery drain, because if you don't let the application run on the background, it won't. System applications of course don't need to be configured, they run as normal, so no worries about mails or stuff not working.
Is about using all the options and configure them in order to have a really good experience, but this usually take a couple of days, because it is so different from Android stock.

Tips, Tricks and Bugs
This section is for random things related to the phone and its applications. As everything, this phone is not perfect and is prone to bugs, so I will try to post some of them so the people can be conscious of both good and bad parts of this phone.
The software version I'm using is RIO-l01C432B150, but for the sake of make things easier, I will take the last 4 digits of the version, so I will say I'm running the B150. There is a new version (B170), but I haven't installed yet which seems to fix many of the issues as well as having security patches.
Settings for perfect pictures
The camera application comes with a lot of options, but the pictures are not nice out of the box, you need to tweak somehow the settings in order to get good and vivid colours. With the adjust of this settings, most of the time you will get really good results.
White Balance: Auto or Daylight (depends on you)
ISO: Auto
Exposure: -1
Saturation: +1
Contrast: -1
Bright: 0
WhatsApp Notifications (Fixed with B170)
It seems that Emui has a couple of problems with WhatsApp, sometimes notifications are not arriving and only when you open the application you start to receive messages. The last Play Store version of WhatsApp is not working for many people, so after many tests and trials, I found a version who works just fine and without problems:
http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/whatsapp-inc/whatsapp/whatsapp-2-12-374-4-android-apk-download/
WiFi Auto-connect (Fixed with B170)
Most of the time, the WiFi won't be connecting automatically to the known networks. Some people said that is just enough to delete the network and re-add it in order to make this feature work properly.
Energy Profiles (Personal Assumption)
The phone comes with 3 energy profiles: Ultra, Smart and Normal. Ultra is for making calls and receiving messages and disables most of the "smart" part of the phone. Smart is kind of battery saver without sacrificing too much performance and Normal is more like a performance profile for games and heavy stuff.
I have been testing somehow this profiles for a while, and for my point of view, they are kind of broken. I get almost the same battery life between Smart and Normal, and the performance is the same as well. To probe my theory, I made some benchmarks and I found that these 2 different profiles (which should be doing different things) get the same scores in almost all the benchmarks, even sometimes Smart profile is getting more score than the Normal, thing that should be inverse.
I don't know how these profiles work, but I think that Normal is the one bugged and probably that's why I have noticed lag sometimes in the device, because is not taking advantage of the full capacities of the processor. Even when both profiles get the same score on benchmarks, on Normal mode the lag from browsing is gone.
Lockscreen Notifications
By default, the Lock-screen is not able to show notifications or the screen won't turn on when a notifications comes, like "Ambient Display" style. To make this happen, you have to install a theme compatible with this function, which currently is enabled on the latest Huawei phone, the Mate 8. Just unzip the themes on the Hwthemes folder and select them from the Themes application. After this, new options will appear on the Lock-screen menu from settings and you will be able to configure it from there.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/6scl0dfddpdnev5/Mate-8-stock-theme-(Gizdev.com).rar
Enabling Gyroscope (Root)
For some reason, Huawei didn't enable the gyroscope on the G8, but there is a way to make it work. You have to download the file, and put them here " /system/etc/permissions", then give the proper permissions the them (" rw-r--r-- (644)") and reboot the phone. You will have a working gyroscope now.
https://mega.nz/#!pEEGFLbJ!scUWYUCZ_uGM7TyaaJPu7O8YfVgnk4DyCT7jSWCW35E
Hide Navigation Bar (Root)
There is a way to have this function that comes in other Huawei devices as well, we just have to edit the "build.prop" file and change the line "ro.config.showNavigationBar=true". After this, we save the file, we reboot and we go to Settings>Navigation Bar and we will find a new option to show or hide the navigation bar.

Multimedia
I will be posting some pictures because for some people camera is really important, and even when this is not an expensive phone, camera is pretty decent.
About the video, I don't have at the moment any samples, but I have to say that image quality is good as well, but in really loud environments (clubs, concerts) the microphone get saturated and this will lead to some crappy sound in videos.
Video: https://goo.gl/photos/S8zA5M82ioTe68HJ8
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Can you install one of the apps "Hardware info" or "cpu-z" and test the sensors? And maybe post a screenshot?
Some say there is a gyroscope, some say there is none...
Is there an ambient light sensor in g8?

Bib_x said:
Can you install one of the apps "Hardware info" or "cpu-z" and test the sensors? And maybe post a screenshot?
Some say there is a gyroscope, some say there is none...
Is there an ambient light sensor in g8?
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I already made the test in the past, and for sure there is no gyroscope here. I tried the same videos on my old phone and they were working there, but not on this phone.
About the ambient sensor, yes it comes with one.

Galaxo60 said:
I already made the test in the past, and for sure there is no gyroscope here. I tried the same videos on my old phone and they were working there, but not on this phone.
About the ambient sensor, yes it comes with one.
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But when i change position of my phone, it will switch automatically from landscape to portrait mode?
Can i play car racing games where i can steer my car with moving and turning the phone?
So when this only will affect taking photos or videos - it´s not a big fault for me.

Bib_x said:
But when i change position of my phone, it will switch automatically from landscape to portrait mode?
Can i play car racing games where i can steer my car with moving and turning the phone?
So when this only will affect taking photos or videos - it´s not a big fault for me.
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Yes, because all those tasks are made with the Accelerometer, not with the Gyroscope, the phone changes automatically to landscape or portrait with no problem.
I tested Asphalt 8 and it runs perfectly fine with just turning the device to the right or left, so no worries here because of that.

My girlfriend has a european g8 and she's so frustrated because of the missing whatsapp notifications and wifi autoreconnect bug.. Downloading now a b170 fw hope it will really fix those bugs..
Did you see this guys? Is this true or fake? and if it is true, what's that Aosp or cm13?
http://android-xda.net/tutorial/upgrade-update-huawei-g8/

moly82 said:
My girlfriend has a european g8 and she's so frustrated because of the missing whatsapp notifications and wifi autoreconnect bug.. Downloading now a b170 fw hope it will really fix those bugs..
Did you see this guys? Is this true or fake? and if it is true, what's that Aosp or cm13?
http://android-xda.net/tutorial/upgrade-update-huawei-g8/
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The update is fake, Huawei never put their software updates on 3 parts, and most of the page just have the same text and same screenshots for the phones they claim to have a different ROM.
About the WiFi bug, there is nothing we can't make, but as for WhatsApp, install the version I gave on the "Tips, Tricks and Bugs" section and it will be fixed, trust me.
Just remember that B170 is an update for single SIM G8.

Thanks mate! Yes I've already installed the whatsapp version you suggested, and it seems to be working fine now, let's see if it will stay like that
About the wifi that's a very big and bad bug..Let's hope they'll fix it soon! why they don't release b170 also fit dual sim
thank you bye!

Did you root your phone and unlock the bootloader already?
In the german forum there was written, that you can´t install huawei updates OTA anymore if rooted.
How can you make an update if you rooted your phone? Downloading stock rom from support page and flash manually?
There are many people with wlan problems with the newest rom B160. No automatic connect in home network. If this big issue will be fixed soon, perhaps i will buy the g8.

Bib_x said:
Did you root your phone and unlock the bootloader already?
In the german forum there was written, that you can´t install huawei updates OTA anymore if rooted.
How can you make an update if you rooted your phone? Downloading stock rom from support page and flash manually?
There are many people with wlan problems with the newest rom B160. No automatic connect in home network. If this big issue will be fixed soon, perhaps i will buy the g8.
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I haven't done that yet, not root or unlock bootloader, I don't see the need yet, because stock has for me everything I currently need.
About the updates, Is not about the root, but about the recovery. Usually when you root, you install first a custom recovery, so when the OTA comes, it can't update automatically because it doesn't recognize the recovery and it fails. Many people is going back to stock, make an update and then root again, I think is the safest way to have the latest updates and root.
About the WiFi problems, many people claim that B170 already fixes this issue and also the notifications problem, which are the most important bugs for this phone.

Galaxo60 said:
I haven't done that yet, not root or unlock bootloader, I don't see the need yet, because stock has for me everything I currently need.
About the updates, Is not about the root, but about the recovery. Usually when you root, you install first a custom recovery, so when the OTA comes, it can't update automatically because it doesn't recognize the recovery and it fails. Many people is going back to stock, make an update and then root again, I think is the safest way to have the latest updates and root.
About the WiFi problems, many people claim that B170 already fixes this issue and also the notifications problem, which are the most important bugs for this phone.
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But currently B170 is out for single-sim only?
In germany i get the dual-sim version i think.
If i root my phone and want to update - go back to stock means, flash the whole stock rom with twrp and then twrp is removed automatically too?

Yes b170 only for single sim ;( in Italy also there is only dual sim

Bib_x said:
But currently B170 is out for single-sim only?
In germany i get the dual-sim version i think.
If i root my phone and want to update - go back to stock means, flash the whole stock rom with twrp and then twrp is removed automatically too?
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moly82 said:
Yes b170 only for single sim ;( in Italy also there is only dual sim
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Yes, B170 is only for single sim, even though I have heard about a B160 (from France) which maybe could be dual sim, but I'm not sure.
If you want to go back to stock, you should flash the whole system image I think, not only the ROM. You have to be sure you have the stock recovery and ROM in order to have a successful update. Some people is trying to flash B170 while having root and they are bricking their phones or in a boot-loop, they can't even enter to recovery; so never update if you are root.
:fingers-crossed:

Galaxo60 said:
Yes, B170 is only for single sim, even though I have heard about a B160 (from France) which maybe could be dual sim, but I'm not sure.
If you want to go back to stock, you should flash the whole system image I think, not only the ROM. You have to be sure you have the stock recovery and ROM in order to have a successful update. Some people is trying to flash B170 while having root and they are bricking their phones or in a boot-loop, they can't even enter to recovery; so never update if you are root.
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There is a B160 ROM for Dual SIM in Hungary, I can search for it and post the link here

Matada02 said:
There is a B160 ROM for Dual SIM in Hungary, I can search for it and post the link here
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I think is better if you post it on the ROM thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gx8/how-to/g8-g7-plus-official-roms-europe-t3294362

Huawei Union Y538 Root?
Huawei Union Y538 Root?

alan2121m said:
Huawei Union Y538 Root?
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Please don't post this kind of things here, is a different device.

I can get the Huawei GX 8 or the Huawei Mate S for the same price.
Which of them would you prefer if the price is the same? Still GX8 or in this case would you change to Mate S?

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Froyo 2.2.2 UK Retail Issues

I will update this thread as I found issues.
1. Middle of downloads the phone turned off and refused to switch on. Taking the battery out enabled restarting the phone again.
2. Despite of master reset/factory reset the phone is really laggy. Freezing applications made Defy very responsive but under 2.2.2 it appears no difference at all. (Second factory reset seems brought back somme life to my phone now...)
3. Definitely something is causing an annoying delay at startup even though the phone appears to be ready to use.
4. I have noticed once after a restart the capacitive buttons didn't light up for 1-2 minutes even though I was using the phone. The LauncherPro is installed and I'm suspecting that is the culprit here.
5. Once a number is dialed the phone locks itself. This is rather inconvenience when you need immediately use the key pad to select options. (20 June 2011)
Guidelines - 20 June 2011
I decided to write a guideline for Defy users. The information provided here have already been mentioned by others but normally not in one place. Please follow the steps below every time you flash a new ROM.
1. Master Reset (Whether you like this step or not this is required to do. Imagine upgrading a windows machine, it would be simply a mess in most cases. Any pro users would tell you always to do a clearn install. The same principle with Android applies)
2. Discharge the battery (It seems flashing a ROM messes up the battery calibration. Drain the battery to the point it won't boot then recharge it from the wall socket)
3. Avoid Restoring Apps (Only if is a must. Since Android 2.2 is different to 2.1 many apps might not work very well with the same settings restored from 2.1. Some vendors also offer different version for Android 2.2 or higher. Installing from market is best practice)
4. Avoid using widgets (They are simply battery eaters. Avoid them if they don't provide useful functionality to you)
5. Don't trust all vendors (Many apps placed on Android Market is written by programmers with no experience at all. A badly written app not only drains more battery but also takes up more precious RAM than it should. The less RAM you have, the slower the phone performs)
6. Don't keep large number of emails in your inboxes (They simply take up more memory)
7. Charge your mobile from wall socket when you can. It really does make a difference and also a recommended method by Motorola.
8. Put the Mobile Network to 2G when you can. It does save considerable amount of battery.
9. Switch off the phone once per day for 30 seconds before switching it on again.
Any chance to get hands on SBF for this release
Download available : Here http://direct.motorola.com/hellomoto/support/update/#
CSharpHeaven said:
4. I have noticed once after a restart the capacitive buttons didn't light up for 1-2 minutes even though I was using the phone. The LauncherPro is installed and I'm suspecting that is the culprit here.
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I notice on my handset (UK T-Mobile eclair) that the capacitive buttons sometimes dont light up when holding the phone landscape. I think there is a light sensor somewhere which detects the ambient light and adjusts the capacitive button lighting.
techguyone said:
Download available : Here http://direct.motorola.com/hellomoto/support/update/#
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I am on cm7 not sure if the phone will be detected by the msu. Will try once getting back home.
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techguyone said:
Download available : Here http://direct.motorola.com/hellomoto/support/update/#
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That will get you the motorola update software.
During the update the .sbf is downloaded. We need to get the sbf, however it is deleted once the update has finished. I think this happens when the motorola software asks to "reboot phone, connect usb and verify update".
Please, if anyone does the update make sure to find the .sbf file and copy it somewhere safe before the update is verified. Then post to xda of course
Olly
binodnepal said:
I am on cm7 not sure if the phone will be detected by the msu. Will try once getting back home.
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I'm not sure either, I reverted to 2.51 and did the update form that point.
Anyone installed CM over 3.4.2_177-3?
Olly
kashavsehra said:
I notice on my handset (UK T-Mobile eclair) that the capacitive buttons sometimes dont light up when holding the phone landscape. I think there is a light sensor somewhere which detects the ambient light and adjusts the capacitive button lighting.
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Thanks for that. I can actually reconfirm the issue. Last night when I was setting my alarm, with no lights in the room, I noticed once again the capacitive buttons' led were off. I was helding the phone in portrait and I know for sure this problem wasn't there in 2.1 because I always set my alarm after I turn the lights off (Bedroom's). When I press the Home Key to come out of the Alarm app the capacitive buttons lit up again.
binodnepal said:
I am on cm7 not sure if the phone will be detected by the msu. Will try once getting back home.
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If the msu is compiled by Motorola then I'm sure you won't be able to upgrade. The .msu can contain many other smaller installers that can do all the checking, exactly the way the update program does. Your only solutuion is to revert back to Motorola's stock ROM and give it a try.
Two more very annoying Defy/Froyo issues:
1) You can't disable the lockscreen anymore, so prepare for a lot of annoying swiping. Yes, you can get rid of the slider with an app called "No Lock," but this will also disable your security lock (pin code or pattern) which leaves your phone wide open.
2) The new gallery has more eye candy but less functionality, and it got slower too. If you open the folder list you can't read long folder names anymore. Is there is a way to run the old 2.1 gallery on Froyo?
I found the gallery the worst bit. So poor, I can't believe they let it go out like that. Runs like a dog.
I feel embarrassed for Motorola. Or I would if they were not working hard every day making their great hardware under-perform!
Seriously what a phone once CM is on it!
Olly
Use quickpic off the market, best gallery around
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rogier666 said:
Two more very annoying Defy/Froyo issues:
1) You can't disable the lockscreen anymore, so prepare for a lot of annoying swiping. Yes, you can get rid of the slider with an app called "No Lock," but this will also disable your security lock (pin code or pattern) which leaves your phone wide open.
2) The new gallery has more eye candy but less functionality, and it got slower too. If you open the folder list you can't read long folder names anymore. Is there is a way to run the old 2.1 gallery on Froyo?
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As far as I'm concerned Motorola has degraded the phone and I'm not too sure if that is legal or not. I'm referring to the apps Motorola developed such as the video player and the gallery that you pointed out, not the Android itself. The additional Task Manager that was shipped with 2.1 in US is a welcome.
I have found my defy is performing slower, unless those claim Defy performs better with Android 2.2 has some settings that I don't. I ended up installing SetVSel to speed thigns up. It seems to me I'm getting 1/4 less juice out of my battery. I can reconfirm it once I play music on it for a couple of hours.
Not wanting to sound negative all the time, here are some positive things I found so far. I'm very happy with this update because now I got all my emails working on my handset which was important to me which missed the feature for the past 6 months. The browser appears to work very smoothly in most cases. I haven't used the Tasks app yet but that is another welcome addition as I always have a need for such features on portable devices. Other positive things about Android is to thank google not Motorola anyway. The slightly improved dialer worth just mentioning about it.
If Motorola refuses to give us Gingerbread then I hope they provide an update to fix some minor issues that either annoying or impacting the user experience soon enough.
I gotta say I'm pretty surprised about all the issues people are facing with the Froyo update everywhere. I had the french update installed which was one of the first available in Europe before moving on to the leaked 2.3.3 and it was smoother than ever. No bug at all except for the space touch getting a bit crazy while typing a text a few times. I didn't have many applications installed. A few people mentioned the update's fine as long as you don't have much installed on the phone but it starts getting extremely laggy when you keep installing more and more applications. After a factory reset there shouldn't be any lags though !
MrBelter said:
Use quickpic off the market, best gallery around
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QuickPic would be the best gallery app if it would let us change the grid size (the thumbnail previews are too big now) and if it had "all photos" and "all videos" views. Unfortunately QuickPic only does folders.
lotfib said:
I gotta say I'm pretty surprised about all the issues people are facing with the Froyo update everywhere. I had the french update installed which was one of the first available in Europe before moving on to the leaked 2.3.3 and it was smoother than ever. No bug at all except for the space touch getting a bit crazy while typing a text a few times. I didn't have many applications installed. A few people mentioned the update's fine as long as you don't have much installed on the phone but it starts getting extremely laggy when you keep installing more and more applications. After a factory reset there shouldn't be any lags though !
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Thank you for your post. In my experience there was a noticeable performance difference between 2.1 and 2.2.2 before a single application was installed. One theory to why some people are happy with the performance and others are not could be down to different components used in Defy. No one knows for sure if all Defy around the globe use exactly the same components or not. As you pointed out installing apps appears to effect the performance so we can conclude those that are not experiencing performance decrease are not power users.
rogier666 said:
QuickPic would be the best gallery app if it would let us change the grid size (the thumbnail previews are too big now) and if it had "all photos" and "all videos" views. Unfortunately QuickPic only does folders.
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I am confused, all my photos and videos are in folders anyway and all the previews load like lightning so i fail to to see the problem, it is better than any default gallery whichever way you look at it.
Anyway only issue i can find with the retail 2.2 is how low highest screen brightness setting seems to be, the display is really hard to read outside now.
If you have a hundred pictures scattered over ten folders, would you want to tap into those folders one by one to browse all your photos?
Just like there's a unified inbox for mails from many accounts so you don't have to jump from one mailbox to the next, the stock gallery has a unified pictures view (all pictures in one grid) for all your folders.
If you want to swipe through lots of pictures from a bunch of different folders, having them all in one grid beats having to open all the different folders one by one.
If QuickPic would have the same unified picture view and custom picture grid sizes I would throw the stock gallery out. While QuickPic is working on it (are they?) I'll keep both apps.
The problem with the capacitive buttons that not lighting up is worse than I thought. It happens all the time, it doesn't light up and the only way to make it to work, when it gets really bad, by locking the phone (power switch) and unlocking it again.
The battery life noticeably shortened after the update. What I have done today was to completely discharge the battery to the point it doesn't turn on. Recharged it fully again without turning it on and from the wall socket. I'll report back if there was any improvements on Monday.
I also uninstalled VSel and set it to default CPU speed again. Despite of freezing so many apps and services the start up is really slow and I really feel the lag with the phone.
Another Defy/Froyo bug:
Dial *#*#4636#*#* to get into a service menu. From there battery_history/network_usage would tell you network traffic per app since last boot/unplugged/all time.
In Eclair all data was counted. In Froyo it usually doesn't count anything.

LEAGOO Elite 2 Octa Core 5.5" IPS HD, 3800mAh, 2GB RAM+16GB ROM

Leagoo is soon going to release their new Elite series.
The LEAGOO Elite 2 is an Octa Core with 5.5" IPS HD screen, 3800mAh, 2GB RAM+16GB ROM and it can shoot videos in 720p with 60 frames/s.
Some of the specifications are:
Network 3G WCDMA 850/1900/2100
CPU 1.4GHz Octa Core
Internal Memory RAM 2GB + ROM 16GB
Display Size 5.5 inch HD
Display Material IPS (Corning Gorilla Glass)
Dimension 153.4*77.2*7.5mm
Camera 18.0MP rear camera, 13.0MP front camera
Operation System Android 4.4
Battery 3800mAh
Color Black, White, Champagne Gold
Other Features Support HotKnot, Wake Gesture, Air Turn, etc.
Seems to be an interesting phone with a nice design, what do you think? The price is also going to be interesting because that will of course also be an important factor.
More info at LEAGOO here: http://www.leagoo.cc/Elite2.html
and on their Facebook page: http://www.facebook.com/leagoocc
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Battery Capacity
The Leagoo Site currently shows a 3200mAH battery..
Are there different versions of it or have they changed it recently?
I was ready to order it but noticed this so I guess I should ask first.
Battery
I'm kinda late coming in here but. The battery is 3200. I have been very happy with the battery life. It will Last all day easy with regular use. However The phone has been a real disapointment. I mean it was under $150. So.... yah.
kimo hands said:
I'm kinda late coming in here but. The battery is 3200. I have been very happy with the battery life. It will Last all day easy with regular use. However The phone has been a real disapointment. I mean it was under $150. So.... yah.
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Why has it been a real disappointment mate?
Please point out what issues you have faced with it..
There aren't many reviews on it so it would really help if you enlighten me as I'm still thinking of getting one but haven't decided yet..
A few things I've noticed.
Typing is a pain. The interface continually multi types letters when I hit space if I try to type to fast. Like it has trouble keeping up. It also hits L instead of backspace a lot. Also when using apps or browsing online the keyboard doesn't pop up. It pops up probably 50% of the time. Some text fields it just doesn't pop up. I had to download hackers keyboard because it creates a button in the drop down menu that allows me to manually open the keyboard.
The hardware otherwise lives up to what I was expecting very smooth interface, however ever since the first update the clock and notifications on the top bar as well as the setting menu items are flipped. Example. Clock and battery go from top right to top left. And other little nuances.
I don't use the stock launcher so I can't comment on it.
I don't remember dropping the phone however my mic no longer works. So I can't make phone calls without a bluetooth device. I suppose It's possible I damaged it somehow but it's only been about a month I've had it.
I'd rather just get a new Samsung phone then deal with shipping for a repair or replacement.
The bluetooth doesn't seem to work as well as my old phone or tablet. For example my galaxy tab and old razr phone show song titles and info on my bluetooth car stereo but the elite 2 does not and goes out sometimes. The connection can be very finicky. Sometimes it drops out for a few seconds every minute.
The GPS is not very accurate. Constantly adjusting putting me a few streets over.
The screen does not feel smooth like other devices I'm used to. What I mean by that is as I drag my finger across it my finger seems more likely to drag hard or stick to the screen. It's not terrible or a deal breaker but I do notice it.
I guess ultimately it was inexpensive. I should have expected it to feel inexpensive. I tried really hard to like and defend it but ultimately I'm not very happy with it. So if your considering it I'd say as long as the mic doesn't break it does do the whole being a phone thing well. Otherwise it's been a pain in the ass.
Hope this is helpful
Wow, that's a lot of issues.. I'm constantly liking these china phones less and less..
Well, a friend of mine has ordered it recently so I'll also test it out to see how his device goes..
Also another friend of mine ordered the elephone P3000s so I'll also check that one out before I make my final decision..
But deciding is kind of getting rougher over time..
Many thanks for your post mate! Best of luck with your case!
Well, I am more pleased with the phone than most people. It works a treat, BUT, the keyboard failing to show is a BIG PROBLEM.
Has anyone got a fix other than installing hacker keyboard? this is a ridiculous situation.
When this problem occurs on any other phone, you can clear cache + data on 'android input' in the ALL section of the apps settings and it will come back. On samsung phones 'android input' is called something else but the process is the same.
Does anyone have any clue what I need to clear to fix this on the leagoo? I've tried all clearing android keyboard + swiftkey etc, no joy.
Great device, I am really looking forward to it. I am about to order a unit for myself.
UPDATE: there is a recent OTA update which you must click CHECK UPDATE to see through the ABOUT PHONE section of settings, it is not automatically detected.
After installing this latest update, keyboard woes sorted. Very very happy with this phone for the price now.
bandario said:
Well, I am more pleased with the phone than most people. It works a treat, BUT, the keyboard failing to show is a BIG PROBLEM.
Has anyone got a fix other than installing hacker keyboard? this is a ridiculous situation.
When this problem occurs on any other phone, you can clear cache + data on 'android input' in the ALL section of the apps settings and it will come back. On samsung phones 'android input' is called something else but the process is the same.
Does anyone have any clue what I need to clear to fix this on the leagoo? I've tried all clearing android keyboard + swiftkey etc, no joy.
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I had this problem too anyone can solve this problem please let us know
Thank you
pingsovo said:
I had this problem too anyone can solve this problem please let us know
Thank you
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The latest OTA update, accessible via Settings --> about phone has addressed the keyboard issue.
Unfortunately, Leagoo have proved themselves to be most dishonorable as a company.
The Elite 2 ships with 2 programs built into the ROM (NOT DELETABLE) that are packed with malware. The device downloads and installs further malware infected programs of its own accord.
beautymakeup is one offender, I forget the other.
We desperately need root for this device so that this can be addressed.
bandario said:
The latest OTA update, accessible via Settings --> about phone has addressed the keyboard issue.
Unfortunately, Leagoo have proved themselves to be most dishonorable as a company.
The Elite 2 ships with 2 programs built into the ROM (NOT DELETABLE) that are packed with malware. The device downloads and installs further malware infected programs of its own accord.
beautymakeup is one offender, I forget the other.
We desperately need root for this device so that this can be addressed.
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Well I couldn't find any alternative to fit my requirements at such a price, so I ordered it and finally received the device yesterday.
Almost immediately I installed the OTA update so I didn't face any hidden keyboard issues.
The phone is running smoothly no matter how much I load it up.. I've run tests: Phone Function, Speaker, Microphone, GPS, 3G, WiFi all work fine and battery is nice too! Also, I got a normal for this cpu ~28000 on AnTuTu.
Design wise I'm ok with it I would like it to be a bit thinner but I'm a freak when it comes to thickness so don't worry about it. It's ~7.5mm thick... It's almost equal to my sister's Elephone G7 in thickness only that one is a bit thinner around the edges.
I love the black version as the screen tends to blend in with the frame when off, plus the colors look great in contrast with it when on.
The screen is very bright and I use it easily at less than 25% setting and it's view-able from any angle.
I installed all my favorite apps(a few dozens of them) without any problem and today I noticed an ad popping up every now and then.
So I decided to root the device and succeeded on the second attempt using Kingo Root.
After rooting I removed that beautymakeup app and the leagoo market since I don't really need it and I'm now wondering if there's anything else that has to go without ruining anything.. so I would like to ask if these 2 should be removed or not:
1. Leagoo Launcher (can I remove it or it will cause problems to my phone's functionality?)
2. OtdLauncher (I have no idea what it is so I'm not touching it until I get something on it..)
It seems that the ad is still popping up every now and then and I don't know which app is launching it..
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
I am pretty bloody keen to know how you got kingo root to work? I've run it a bunch of times and not had a win.
If you have installed a replacement launcher, you should be fine to remove or freeze the old ones....but I have no idea what Otd launcher is. Anyone else?
Leagoo Elite 2 - A nice phone.
Just got mine delivered yesterday evening.
Solid built and feels good in hand.
Played with it today for two hours and all is set.
There is one issue/strange behaviour I have noticed on the handset delivered to me, navigation button lights are always ON, back/menu buttons not the home button.
Anyone else noticed this?
And as reported by another user, it feels strange sliding finger on the screen, it feels like sticky.
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I am pretty bloody keen to know how you got kingo root to work? I've run it a bunch of times and not had a win.
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Try using the apk version from Kingo Android Root website, it worked for me, windows application failed for me too. But kingoroot also installs lots of bloatware. So I installed SuperSu and once it took over the root management I removed Kingo and everything that it installed using App Master
Using the App Master I have also removed all other garbage that came with the device (launchers/Leagoo Apps etc), I am using Apex Launcher.
App Master gives you the option to take backup of the APP you are removing, so use that option and if something goes wrong, restorte the removed APP.
Installed xposed, MinMinGuard (removes in APP Ads) & Amplify
Overall phone is performing very smooth, not checked it with heavy games/apps as this one is a gift for my Mom, so only few extra Apps that the old lady will use.
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Would like to mention that I love it's speakers, sound is loud, clear and natural.
bandario said:
I am pretty bloody keen to know how you got kingo root to work? I've run it a bunch of times and not had a win.
If you have installed a replacement launcher, you should be fine to remove or freeze the old ones....but I have no idea what Otd launcher is. Anyone else?
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I'm also not sure how.. it just worked on the second try.
Maybe uninstall the driver and try it again.. Kingo likes to install the driver it finds on its own.. Just a thought though.. no promises.
Now this is new.. today I got another OTA update notice so I decided to download it and upgrade..
But the system showed up this message "your system was damaged wireless update is disabled".
Ok, now I'm wondering what went wrong..
Could it possibly be that because my device is rooted it prevented the update? Should I unroot it?
It's kinda scary.. Has anyone else faced the same issue?
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Now this is new.. today I got another OTA update notice so I decided to download it and upgrade..
But the system showed up this message "your system was damaged wireless update is disabled".
Ok, now I'm wondering what went wrong..
Could it possibly be that because my device is rooted it prevented the update? Should I unroot it?
It's kinda scary.. Has anyone else faced the same issue?
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Had you by any chance rooted your phone?
What update version is it showing?
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Had you by any chance rooted your phone?
What update version is it showing?
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Well, like I said.. yes I've rooted my phone.
The current custom build version on it is :
LEAGOO_Elite_2_V018_20150416
SolidSnakeGr said:
Well, like I said.. yes I've rooted my phone.
The current custom build version on it is :
LEAGOO_Elite_2_V018_20150416
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That could be a reason, try unroot completely and then try.
I received the phone with LEAGOO_Elite_2_V020_20150512
You may also check with the customer support for ROM download and flash it using some custom recovery.
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That could be a reason, try unroot completely and then try.
I received the phone with LEAGOO_Elite_2_V020_20150512
You may also check with the customer support for ROM download and flash it using some custom recovery.
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Well I'm not facing any "bugs" or "performance issues" as the update says so I don't really need the update.. so I'm ok without it.
However something else that drives me nuts is that even though I've uninstalled leagoo launcher and market and that weird app beauty sth but still.. I get a random ad every now and then that's been happening since I bought it before even installing anything.
I'll try to note down what is being advertised, I'm pretty sure one is "App Box" and there is another one I don't remember.
I will note them down next time they come up and research on them..
This ad appears once in every 2 or 3 days without running any specific app so I still I can't track it..

Super V7.01_20170123 Android N ROM - SPFT + OTA release

Its finally here! The first final release for Nougat 7.0
For now its through SPFT. If you want the OTA you'll have to wait until next month.
http://community.umidigi.com/thread-6292-1-1.html
Enjoy!
OTA "is working" for me...
I have to download .zip file from UMI DIGI site copy to SD card and use "Local update" in phone update menu. No personal data will be removed.
Hi i am using version from october 20161017.
Must i first upgrade to 20161721 and then upgrade via SPFT to Nougat?
No need for that. Flash it from your current rom.
Battery consumption
Hi. What about battery consumption in 7?? It looks more battery consumption for me ....
Is the camera any better?
drakJBC1 said:
Hi. What about battery consumption in 7?? It looks more battery consumption for me ....
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Because this is the first official version of Nougat the optimisation for Wakelocks isn't the best. Also when you upgrade to a totally new Android version you need a at least 3 charge cycles where you go from 100% to 5% before you charge your device up to 100% again. One thing I've done due to the poor Wakelock management is using greenify, it works even better if you have a rooted device.
dkzg said:
Is the camera any better?
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The camera on umi super will always be rubbish. I haven't noticed any real change.
Creedo4Life said:
The camera on umi super will always be rubbish. I haven't noticed any real change.
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The lens is not the software is bad. What about third party camera apps? Are they still black?
dkzg said:
The lens is not the software is bad. What about third party camera apps? Are they still black?
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The dark camera issue has somewhat been resolved in third party apps. I noticed a bug that still persist using the selfie camera on snapchat, taking photos looks fine but if you try video recording the screen goes very dark like the previous dark camera issue.
If the poor camera was just down to software don't you think Umi would've fixed it already? I mean i had this phone since July 2016 and not much has changed. I never got this device for the camera though but for the reasonable hardware for a very cheap price.
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The dark camera issue has somewhat been resolved in third party apps. I noticed a bug that still persist using the selfie camera on snapchat, taking photos looks fine but if you try video recording the screen goes very dark like the previous dark camera issue.
If the poor camera was just down to software don't you think Umi would've fixed it already? I mean i had this phone since July 2016 and not much has changed. I never got this device for the camera though but for the reasonable hardware for a very cheap price.
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Try Open camera app on play store. It stopped twitching of the picture. But it was dark. If it's not great!
Im not an expert but i think the problem is that they take the camera module from i.e. Samsung Galaxy s6 and some new processor from MediaTek and can't make them fully compatible...or something like that...
i am asking here because in the umi forums no one seems to be interested in responding to questions.
does anyone still has android 6 installed and rooted? i would need the apk: mtkquicksearchbox
this is the grey searchbox enabled on the homescreen by default. with this one you could search and find everything and i have no idea why i now have to cope with that bad google one.
Any root methods for Android 7.0 of UMi Super?
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i am asking here because in the umi forums no one seems to be interested in responding to questions.
does anyone still has android 6 installed and rooted? i would need the apk: mtkquicksearchbox
this is the grey searchbox enabled on the homescreen by default. with this one you could search and find everything and i have no idea why i now have to cope with that bad google one.
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I have bad news for you. THe Mtkquicksearchbox doesn't work on Nougat 7. Before switching over i saved the APK and when i tried to install it after i upgraded from N6 to N7 the app just won't install.
I believe it has to do with something on the writing permissions on the system. Even after rooting my phone and giving rw permission in es file explorer it wouldn't work.
I prefer the mtk quicksearch over google and hope this might come back in a later software upgrade by Umi but i highly doubt they will put it back in future releases of N7, i could be wrong though.
Creedo4Life said:
I have bad news for you. THe Mtkquicksearchbox doesn't work on Nougat 7. Before switching over i saved the APK and when i tried to install it after i upgraded from N6 to N7 the app just won't install.
I believe it has to do with something on the writing permissions on the system. Even after rooting my phone and giving rw permission in es file explorer it wouldn't work.
I prefer the mtk quicksearch over google and hope this might come back in a later software upgrade by Umi but i highly doubt they will put it back in future releases of N7, i could be wrong though.
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thank you for this answer, i suspected something like this.
Sim Card Not Detected
I updated my Android Umi Super through the local method.
But now my simcards cannot be detected.
I have tried re-booting...cold boots, Airplane Mode On Off
Simcard removal... Another Local Install
Etc.
What Should I do.
Updated to the latest firmware, now I'm getting constant soft reboots...
Tried through local OTA and the soft reboots started. Redownloaded and managed to get it to flash through local OTA again in between soft reboots, no change. Full factory reset, no change.
Tried updating through SPTool, still getting the same soft reboots every minute or so.
Any ideas out there?
Pls so I shouldn't download the v7.01...... Again if there will be problem right.
Microphone not working well after update
Since my upgrade to android 7 on my UMI super I have found a few bugs:
1.) Banking app is not working any more
2.) When I do a video chat with my friends they can't hear me at all and mostly hear white noise. This is the same on skype, messenger, watsapp calling etc. This was not present in android 6. I have reset my phone and still both problems exist Anyway to revert back to android 6?
Have they fixed the crap/no gps lock issues??? Or is that just a pipe dream???

General OS 12 is now Ready for Aquos R6

You can update using the step on my another thread.
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UI looks cleaner and neater now. Camera shutter lags also gone. Great update
Yeah I updated it yesterday too.
So far overall phone performance is even better than android 11. More importantly the shutter lag is gone.
I have upgraded my Docomo Sharp Aquos R6 to Andriod 12, and find that the battery drain very fast even the phone is not in use. Anyone has similar experience? It is similar to the very first version of firmware when R6 just released
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I have upgraded my Docomo Sharp Aquos R6 to Andriod 12, and find that the battery drain very fast even the phone is not in use. Anyone has similar experience? It is similar to the very first version of firmware when R6 just released
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Just want to remind you that after update, any android phone will heat up and drain battery for minutes/hour, because it reindex the file on the phone, this might even more noticeable if you have plenty of data like me.
Also, since you just clear the google play services and framework data so that you can update, that services will also do plenty of task, re-sync up your photos, etc
in my case, i just plug the phone and leave it connected to wifi for a night, and everything will be fine in the morning. All background task done.
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Just want to remind you that after update, any android phone will heat up and drain battery for minutes/hour, because it reindex the file on the phone, this might even more noticeable if you have plenty of data like me.
Also, since you just clear the google play services and framework data so that you can update, that services will also do plenty of task, re-sync up your photos, etc
in my case, i just plug the phone and leave it connected to wifi for a night, and everything will be fine in the morning. All background task done.
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Thx for your reply, but I'd been updated and used it for a few days. The battery drain issue is still here. My R6 is the very first batch which has similar issue with the first few firmware versions. The sitiation was fixed after updating the Carrier Services a few times. For this latest firmware, the problem is not fixed yet.
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Thx for your reply, but I'd been updated and used it for a few days. The battery drain issue is still here. My R6 is the very first batch which has similar issue with the first few firmware versions. The sitiation was fixed after updating the Carrier Services a few times. For this latest firmware, the problem is not fixed yet.
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I see. Have you tried updating the carrier services again ? I got it like, almost every two days, dunno what google is thinking . Have you also check what is actually draining your battery ?
when on android 11, it's actually the stock messaging app that drain my battery, somehow it bugged and keep the phone wake up all the time. I disable it, and use google messages app, and everything is good.
You can use brevent app if you want as well. It can disable any system app or automatically suspend one which already idle more than certain minutes. (Mine set to 30 minutes) All without need of root, just using wireless debugging directly on the phone. I use it to debloat my phone.
Bellow is the list of app which i disabled btw. Mostly is japanese app which you don't need if you live outside japan.
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I see. Have you tried updating the carrier services again ? I got it like, almost every two days, dunno what google is thinking . Have you also check what is actually draining your battery ?
when on android 11, it's actually the stock messaging app that drain my battery, somehow it bugged and keep the phone wake up all the time. I disable it, and use google messages app, and everything is good.
You can use brevent app if you want as well. It can disable any system app or automatically suspend one which already idle more than certain minutes. (Mine set to 30 minutes) All without need of root, just using wireless debugging directly on the phone. I use it to debloat my phone.
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Yes, I hv got all the apps including Carrier Services updated. I checked the battery usage and found that Phone idle and Android System used unreasonable high battery. The R6 becomes warm easily, well, I mean easier than before even I just used it for FB App.
Latest OTA update is available with March Security Update
Info : https://www.docomo.ne.jp/support/product_update/sh51b/index.html#p05
Guys, I'm interested in R7, but it's a long time since I've had a Sharp phone in my hand. Therefore, I would appreciate if you'd share some knowledge about existing R6 with me.
1. What is this fuzz about the update? Isn't it a given to every R6 to receive OTA?
2. Does the phone come with Google? Full packet or minimum framework (GPay, Android Auto Assistant)?
3. Does it have AOS?
4. Can the launcher be replaced (with Nova, for example)?
5. Any problems with bank apps?
6. ADB remove system apps - anybody tried?
Thanks a lot for every answer.
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Guys, I'm interested in R7, but it's a long time since I've had a Sharp phone in my hand. Therefore, I would appreciate if you'd share some knowledge about existing R6 with me.
1. What is this fuzz about the update? Isn't it a given to every R6 to receive OTA?
2. Does the phone come with Google? Full packet or minimum framework (GPay, Android Auto Assistant)?
3. Does it have AOS?
4. Can the launcher be replaced (with Nova, for example)?
5. Any problems with bank apps?
6. ADB remove system apps - anybody tried?
Thanks a lot for every answer.
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1. R6 is a Japan phone, in which, you can only get OTA by doing some procedures. So you wont be able to be notified for the OTA just like when you use other phone. Not all users know ehere to check for the info about latest update. The info is available only in japanese language. Thus, this is not a fuzz, but rather an informations for fellow users. Especially when we found the update been helpful in fixing some of bugs/annoyance in phone usability.
2. It come with full Google package
3. It's not AOSP. But it still pretty much Vanilla Android, with some extra/japanese region based features added by sharp.
4. Am running NOVA on my R6, straight swap, since the OS setting itself is Vanilla, it's very easy
5. Am using 5 Bank apps and total 10 of financial related apps, all works as intended, verification and elses.
6. No, i didn't tried ADB remove, since i don't find it appealing. I can simply disable unwanted app using Brevent app. And by not removing anything from the OS, i can ensure i always able to get an OTA as well. And because this phone has SD card slot, i do not worry about storage space. Most of my media (Video, Music, Docs) stored in SD Card. 128GB of internal space only used for apps.
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1. R6 is a Japan phone, in which, you can only get OTA by doing some procedures. So you wont be able to be notified for the OTA just like when you use other phone. Not all users know ehere to check for the info about latest update. The info is available only in japanese language. Thus, this is not a fuzz, but rather an informations for fellow users. Especially when we found the update been helpful in fixing some of bugs/annoyance in phone usability.
2. It come with full Google package
3. It's not AOSP. But it still pretty much Vanilla Android, with some extra/japanese region based features added by sharp.
4. Am running NOVA on my R6, straight swap, since the OS setting itself is Vanilla, it's very easy
5. Am using 5 Bank apps and total 10 of financial related apps, all works as intended, verification and elses.
6. No, i didn't tried ADB remove, since i don't find it appealing. I can simply disable unwanted app using Brevent app. And by not removing anything from the OS, i can ensure i always able to get an OTA as well. And because this phone has SD card slot, i do not worry about storage space. Most of my media (Video, Music, Docs) stored in SD Card. 128GB of internal space only used for apps.
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Thank you for your really fast and thorough answer. Sorry, I didn't mean to insult with the fuzz, just didn't know the circumstances, I used a lot of kinda exotic phones and always got OTA. But I understand and appreciate every help from the community side. It's always welcome.
I think I got answers to my questions and all are satisfactory. Though under 3 I made a typo, the question was about always on display. And with ADB you don't really remove anything and therefore don't influence OTA, just disable the unwanted bloatware for the primary user.
Thanks again. I suppose that you're satisfied with the phone? And updates are pretty decent too since you've got A12 already?
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Thank you for your really fast and thorough answer. Sorry, I didn't mean to insult with the fuzz, just didn't know the circumstances, I used a lot of kinda exotic phones and always got OTA. But I understand and appreciate every help from the community side. It's always welcome.
I think I got answers to my questions and all are satisfactory. Though under 3 I made a typo, the question was about always on display. And with ADB you don't really remove anything and therefore don't influence OTA, just disable the unwanted bloatware for the primary user.
Thanks again. I suppose that you're satisfied with the phone? And updates are pretty decent too since you've got A12 already?
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AOD is not recommended on this phone,
as great as sharp's IGZO OLED screen is, it still lack something compared to samsung's. If you turn on AOD, the screen will have a retention image rather quickly. And, thinking about long term use, i decide to turn it off.
the screen itself is great tho, in term of color rendition, contrast and resolution. The refresh rate is great as well. Sure 240hz is achieved in pseudo way, but in most cases it feel as fluid as it can be. If you find certain app with funny scrolling feeling, i suggest you turn off high speed display mode for those app, so it will stay on 120Hz mode.
Am satisfied with the phone, yes. Especially for the price, and what i got with that price. At the time of buying, any other SD888 phone with similar specs will cost me 1.5-2x than what i spent for this phone. So that affect my expectation for this phone as well (i don't expect the olympic, lol)
Updates is pretty decent, i think, averaging to 1 update every two months, sometimes 1 update each month. More than what i expect from a company who barely have any models sold in my country
Yes my has like image retention already but oddly it only shows up in certain shades of grey, I don't think is fullly burn on though
Hi, I was wondering with theot of good update news how sharps update policy is? How many OS updates will a sharp device get?
Unknown.unknown said:
Hi, I was wondering with theot of good update news how sharps update policy is? How many OS updates will a sharp device get?
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Well, since in this case we are buying phone from carrier instead of OEM, so it depends which carrier you choose,
as for Docomo, you can predict from their website,
the phone released in 2019 are still getting update until 2022
while one released in 2017, still getting it up to 2021
you can take a look yourself here : https://www.docomo.ne.jp/support/product_update/
so i guess 3-4 years security support. Not sure about major android version update.
but for specific example , Aquos R2 was released in 2018 with Android 8.0, it got Android OS updates in 2019 (to 9.0) , and 2020 (to 10.0), while in 2021 it only got security updates and bugfixing. (so i guess around 2 major OS updates ?)
And today my R6 just got it's 9th Update for latest security patch.
Hi guys, I recently update to 12, however my R6 got a problem that when I unlock a phone, it takes a bit time to open it, like 10s. Do you guys know how to fix that one? Thanks.
otonieru said:
Well, since in this case we are buying phone from carrier instead of OEM, so it depends which carrier you choose,
as for Docomo, you can predict from their website,
the phone released in 2019 are still getting update until 2022
while one released in 2017, still getting it up to 2021
you can take a look yourself here : https://www.docomo.ne.jp/support/product_update/
so i guess 3-4 years security support. Not sure about major android version update.
but for specific example , Aquos R2 was released in 2018 with Android 8.0, it got Android OS updates in 2019 (to 9.0) , and 2020 (to 10.0), while in 2021 it only got security updates and bugfixing. (so i guess around 2 major OS updates ?)
And today my R6 just got it's 9th Update for latest security patch.
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btw: I intended buy R6; how battery life? how time on-screen? thanks!

OxygenOS 12 Open Beta 2: Huge Improvements!

My OnePlus 7T Global HD1903 was on stock OOS Stable for almost 3 years now.
I just decided to update to OOS12 Beta 2 (Indian) yesterday and overall, I like it!
Official update guide here: OxygenOS 12 Open Beta 2 for the OnePlus 7T and OnePlus 7T Pro
Improvements:
1. Stock launcher: now has Google Feeds built-in.
2. Stock launcher: can now lock home screen icon arrangements. This is especially a big deal for me because I always mis-swipe icons and accidentally rearrange them.
3. Game mode: swipe notification banner is now easier to use. You can easily adjust brightness now, which is what I always use when gaming.
4. WiFi and Bluetooth connects faster.
5. Mobile data: signal is more stable. This surprised me a lot because this is an Indian ROM flashed on a Global device. I live in the Philippines, so it may vary from country to country.
6. Fast switching between mobile data and wifi, unlike on OOS11 where there's around 3 seconds of delay.
7. More stable fingerprint scanning (FOD) so it feels faster too, unlike on OOS11 when there are instances that I have to try 3x before my fingerprint gets recognized.
8. Larger PIN input when restarting device and FOD is disabled.
9. Lowest brightness is now even lower. Very good when you use your phone in pitch black environments.
What's missing, and what can be improved:
1. AOD: still the same old crappy Sometimes On Display. My Oppo Reno has a proper AOD, which I thought would be implemented in this update.
2. Recents: app settings cannot be launched directly anymore.
3. Notification banners: button texts are buggy/cut (like Reply or Like). Although this is an Android 12 issue, OnePlus could have fixed it.
4. Stock launcher: home screen icons cannot be set individually. (I bought icon packs for this feature)
5. Stock launcher: home screen icons cannot be renamed anymore. (You can remove app names completely)
6. Dolby Atmos is now disabled when using built-in speakers. Ironically, I only enable them when using the built-in speakers to make sound louder.
7. VoLTE and VoWiFI
Bugs and Nitpicks (but not dealbreakers):
1. Very long boot time. Logo always stuck for 40 seconds before boot animation shows up.
2. Boot animation stutters (low FPS).
3. On standard home screen mode (drawer disabled), SIM Toolkit apps always show up on the home screen after every reboot, even if you put them in a folder.
4. Some apps think that the device/sim is Indian, so there are notifications telling you to enable Roaming. Just disable these notifications once, then they'll stop showing up.
5. Lock screen colors are still oversaturated when FOD is enabled (same with OOS10 and OOS11). This is why I just use a black wallpaper for lockscreen.
6. Stock launcher icon names can now only be removed completely (no app names on drawer too), unlike before where it only doesn't show on the home screen.
I finaly update myself... But I am little disappinted.
first of all, AOD on OOS 11 (oob5) worked perfectly... it doesn't work here... it just is.
I have a big lag when I want to use gestures, especially when I want to leave the gallery in the home screen... everything seems to be slower.
Third, the phone and phonebook app is now much worse... it's much slower to find a name in the phone book.
Fourth, the theme substratum does not work, pureblack for example, so the notification shade is not black as I would like it to be... and all the colors seem washed out to me.
Five, no advinced power menu any more... And no optio for clear cache in recovery
I use Nova and I like it....
High performance mod... is for me must be on
ontwykende said:
I finaly update myself... But I am little disappinted.
first of all, AOD on OOS 11 (oob5) worked perfectly... it doesn't work here... it just is.
I have a big lag when I want to use gestures, especially when I want to leave the gallery in the home screen... everything seems to be slower.
Third, the phone and phonebook app is now much worse... it's much slower to find a name in the phone book.
Fourth, the theme substratum does not work, pureblack for example, so the notification shade is not black as I would like it to be... and all the colors seem washed out to me.
I use Nova and I like it....
High performance mod... is for me must be on
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Thanks for sharing your experience!
Although mine is quite the opposite (everything is more responsive / no lag).
My device isn't rooted though, and I upgraded from stable rom. So ymmv.
ej8989 said:
Thanks for sharing your experience!
Although mine is quite the opposite (everything is more responsive / no lag).
My device isn't rooted though, and I upgraded from stable rom. So ymmv.
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When I turn off substratum... its now faster and feel like before... But I prefere black in dark mode and not gray...
Also I will disable... Theme Store and Work Life Balance (I realy do not need) and Scout... What is that? Do you use it? Sports (how to acces that app) ?
And I am realy frustrated with new phonebook/call app
EDIT: I still have this bug... with gallery app and only Gallery app for now...
When I swap from botom to top... to go to home screen... bacj is just fine... but going straith to home not working in gallery app
Do you know what is Onet app?
Is it India specific? Like Idwntificarion of Unknow Number (doea it work in eu) ?
Also is there any easy way like iit was on 11 to check/change battery optimisation for specific app... or I need to go from settings and to look for app in the hole list?
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When I turn off substratum... its now faster and feel like before... But I prefere black in dark mode and not gray...
Also I will disable... Theme Store and Work Life Balance (I realy do not need) and Scout... What is that? Do you use it? Sports (how to acces that app) ?
And I am realy frustrated with new phonebook/call app
EDIT: I still have this bug... with gallery app and only Gallery app for now...
When I swap from botom to top... to go to home screen... bacj is just fine... but going straith to home not working in gallery app
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I also use swipe navigation but don't have that issue on the Gallery app. I can smoothly transition from Gallery to Home Screen. I uploaded a video: CLICK HERE
Regarding apps you don't need, there is an option to disable them in the app settings.
On the end... I find that my bigrst problem is notificstion lock screen. When I get notificstion I have it for first time, but if I unlock and relock without open notificstin at all... it disappears from lock screen.
Does anyone know how to fix that behavior... Notification not show on LockScreen?
And AOD, not working... All time.... on OB5 ti was working all time if you whant that. Here it just disappear if you do not touch or move phone. I disklike that behavior.
Also I find out that Tasker, or any other app on 12 can not disable network status (2G/3G/4G) even with root.
is the fingerprint reader working well for you? can't seem to get it right after upgrading
ystokar said:
is the fingerprint reader working well for you? can't seem to get it right after upgrading
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For me, yes... fingerprint is right... but on first use... I need to set it twice... to then I delete old one...
I use to clear password and all locks before every udate, and then I make new one, with first start.
ontwykende said:
For me, yes... fingerprint is right... but on first use... I need to set it twice... to then I delete old one...
I use to clear password and all locks before every udate, and then I make new one, with first start.
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thank. it's working better after flashing latest safety-net fix
I have onother big problem after update my OnePlus to OOS 12...
My all tasks, I use in tasker stop working.
What can I do...?
I have root (magisk)...
But Tasker cant change any system setting anymore.
- can't change display timeout any more...
- can't turn AOD on/off
- can't change network mod (Auto/4g/3g/2g)
What I need to change thet to work on android 12... it's all working perfectly on 11
Please help
ontwykende said:
I have onother big problem after update my OnePlus to OOS 12...
My all tasks, I use in tasker stop working.
What can I do...?
I have root (magisk)...
But Tasker cant change any system setting anymore.
- can't change display timeout any more...
- can't turn AOD on/off
- can't change network mod (Auto/4g/3g/2g)
What I need to change thet to work on android 12... it's all working perfectly on 11
Please help
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Check if Tasker is authorised to Modify system settings?
mikefnz said:
Check if Tasker is authorised to Modify system settings?
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Allowd...
In the end, this is a HUGE step backwards for me... and many OnePlus fans who wanted something more and stuck to the Never Settle slogan.
Oppo Coloros is not usable with many applications and causes problems with an even larger number. Maybe at first glance it looks like it's moving smoothly and quickly, but it's just an illusion.
Tasker is just one of those applications and is considered one of the most powerful Android tools, but it is completely unusable even with Root on this system. Even the most ordinary things, which are useful to me, as it is. turning on screen rotation and screen time out for certen apps do not work. Let's not talk about some more complex actions such as norification and starting AOD when there is an unread notification.
AOD itself is very unreliable, I installed 3 different "updates" of the AOD application itself to get it to work at all.
The notification on the lockscreen is just a "masterpiece" it only works once when you receive the notification, and whether you read it or not, it will never appear on the lockscreen again, no matter how many times you unlock or lock your screen.
As a root user of a phone that supports 90Hz, I used to be able to always and in all circumstances use that option, now the screen is almost always at 60Hz no matter what you set and there is no longer a possibility to "force" the phone to always use 90Hz even with an ADB command... All this did not increase the battery life in the least... it even decreased it because the screen is no longer black (which I could achieve on OOS 11 using Subststratum pure black tmeme) but mostly gray.
I still don't have time to dedicate a whole day to wiping the data and going back to the good old OOS... but if you don't want to just have the number 12 in the phone info... and if you use the phone for anything more than texting and answering on calls, it's better to redistribute with old security patches than to get frustrated with Color OS.
Even the most common application, phone book and phone dealer, is a step backwards for me, although I could get used to it if at least some of the basic things that I am used to as a user would work.
Bluetooth, WiFi... Mobile Data... Signal strength, I really have no complaints, it all works great. Preinstalled applications work well and it's a matter of habit and personal taste whether you like the design or not.
But if you use Tasker, Huawei watch, or are a root user who is a bit more demanding... know that I Color OS is very restrictive and that 99% of things will not work as they did on OOS... Especially if you come with OOS Beta 4 or 5 which had AOD working and if you are used to it, I would not recommend you to waste your time and switch to Color OS.
The number 12 is not worth your time, annoyance and searching for a solution for what was working beautifully and smoothly, just because it is a number higher than 11.
On the end choices is yours... Just like it was mine when I done misktake and update.
ontwykende said:
In the end, this is a HUGE step backwards for me... and many OnePlus fans who wanted something more and stuck to the Never Settle slogan.
Oppo Coloros is not usable with many applications and causes problems with an even larger number. Maybe at first glance it looks like it's moving smoothly and quickly, but it's just an illusion.
Tasker is just one of those applications and is considered one of the most powerful Android tools, but it is completely unusable even with Root on this system. Even the most ordinary things, which are useful to me, as it is. turning on screen rotation and screen time out for certen apps do not work. Let's not talk about some more complex actions such as norification and starting AOD when there is an unread notification.
AOD itself is very unreliable, I installed 3 different "updates" of the AOD application itself to get it to work at all.
The notification on the lockscreen is just a "masterpiece" it only works once when you receive the notification, and whether you read it or not, it will never appear on the lockscreen again, no matter how many times you unlock or lock your screen.
As a root user of a phone that supports 90Hz, I used to be able to always and in all circumstances use that option, now the screen is almost always at 60Hz no matter what you set and there is no longer a possibility to "force" the phone to always use 90Hz even with an ADB command... All this did not increase the battery life in the least... it even decreased it because the screen is no longer black (which I could achieve on OOS 11 using Subststratum pure black tmeme) but mostly gray.
I still don't have time to dedicate a whole day to wiping the data and going back to the good old OOS... but if you don't want to just have the number 12 in the phone info... and if you use the phone for anything more than texting and answering on calls, it's better to redistribute with old security patches than to get frustrated with Color OS.
Even the most common application, phone book and phone dealer, is a step backwards for me, although I could get used to it if at least some of the basic things that I am used to as a user would work.
Bluetooth, WiFi... Mobile Data... Signal strength, I really have no complaints, it all works great. Preinstalled applications work well and it's a matter of habit and personal taste whether you like the design or not.
But if you use Tasker, Huawei watch, or are a root user who is a bit more demanding... know that I Color OS is very restrictive and that 99% of things will not work as they did on OOS... Especially if you come with OOS Beta 4 or 5 which had AOD working and if you are used to it, I would not recommend you to waste your time and switch to Color OS.
The number 12 is not worth your time, annoyance and searching for a solution for what was working beautifully and smoothly, just because it is a number higher than 11.
On the end choices is yours... Just like it was mine when I done misktake and update.
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Have you tried any custom ROMs such as Pixel Experience? What are your thoughts on them if you have. I grew tired of waiting for OnePlus to release a stable 12 and installed Pixel Experience. I am mostly satisfied with it, although battery drain is more pronounced.
ontwykende said:
In the end, this is a HUGE step backwards for me... and many OnePlus fans who wanted something more and stuck to the Never Settle slogan.
Oppo Coloros is not usable with many applications and causes problems with an even larger number. Maybe at first glance it looks like it's moving smoothly and quickly, but it's just an illusion.
Tasker is just one of those applications and is considered one of the most powerful Android tools, but it is completely unusable even with Root on this system. Even the most ordinary things, which are useful to me, as it is. turning on screen rotation and screen time out for certen apps do not work. Let's not talk about some more complex actions such as norification and starting AOD when there is an unread notification.
AOD itself is very unreliable, I installed 3 different "updates" of the AOD application itself to get it to work at all.
The notification on the lockscreen is just a "masterpiece" it only works once when you receive the notification, and whether you read it or not, it will never appear on the lockscreen again, no matter how many times you unlock or lock your screen.
As a root user of a phone that supports 90Hz, I used to be able to always and in all circumstances use that option, now the screen is almost always at 60Hz no matter what you set and there is no longer a possibility to "force" the phone to always use 90Hz even with an ADB command... All this did not increase the battery life in the least... it even decreased it because the screen is no longer black (which I could achieve on OOS 11 using Subststratum pure black tmeme) but mostly gray.
I still don't have time to dedicate a whole day to wiping the data and going back to the good old OOS... but if you don't want to just have the number 12 in the phone info... and if you use the phone for anything more than texting and answering on calls, it's better to redistribute with old security patches than to get frustrated with Color OS.
Even the most common application, phone book and phone dealer, is a step backwards for me, although I could get used to it if at least some of the basic things that I am used to as a user would work.
Bluetooth, WiFi... Mobile Data... Signal strength, I really have no complaints, it all works great. Preinstalled applications work well and it's a matter of habit and personal taste whether you like the design or not.
But if you use Tasker, Huawei watch, or are a root user who is a bit more demanding... know that I Color OS is very restrictive and that 99% of things will not work as they did on OOS... Especially if you come with OOS Beta 4 or 5 which had AOD working and if you are used to it, I would not recommend you to waste your time and switch to Color OS.
The number 12 is not worth your time, annoyance and searching for a solution for what was working beautifully and smoothly, just because it is a number higher than 11.
On the end choices is yours... Just like it was mine when I done misktake and update.
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Your #1 mistake was to dirty flash a beta software into an older android version.
Even on custom roms, that's a very bad idea.
ej8989 said:
Your #1 mistake was to dirty flash a beta software into an older android version.
Even on custom roms, that's a very bad idea.
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Actualy, that doesn't change anything... It's Color OS... and all working just it work on cleen install. So I didn't make any mistake there, except the fact that Color OS is not for me or anyone who like freedom of OOS... When I decide to be restricted like I am on ColotOS, I will buy iphone.
So, does your clean installation act differently... lock screen notificstion, AOD, can Tasker change you system settings (turn on and off AOD if you have any new notification, for example), can you force 90Hz in all apps?
Because thats are problems... I don't have any fingerprint or any other system lroblem except it's inconsistent and undefined... it's doesn't have all android 12 theming and look but it's not OOS costumization.
Anyone know of a fix for no signal? It asks for Oroaming funds, but I have an unlocked One Plus 7 Pro converted to the Global Beta 2.
My sim card is Tmobile.
mykehdoom said:
Anyone know of a fix for no signal? It asks for Oroaming funds, but I have an unlocked One Plus 7 Pro converted to the Global Beta 2.
My sim card is Tmobile.
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Network reset? If still no signal then format data
Do u have the magisk patched boot of this version?

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