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I plan to buy the T-Mobile Galaxy S4. Worried that I may not be happy with T-Mobile's coverage is it possible to use it on AT&T's network? If so will it be able to pick up all bands?
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So, does the S4 follow the S3? Will a T-Mobile S4 work on all other carriers in the US and Canada, but, just not have LTE speeds (Only HSPA+)?
Thanks!
According to [1] the t-mobile version of the S4 has the following LTE bands: 1/2/4/5/7/17, which correspond to 2100 1900 1700 850 2600 700MHz.
- Bands 1 and 4 are clear, as those are the main t-mobile LTE bands.
- Metro PCS uses band 2, so given the pending merger to t-mobile, this makes sense as well.
- Band 17 is used by AT&T, which would hopefully mean a T-Mobile Galaxy S4 can be fully used on AT&T including LTE.
- Band 7, is commonly used around the world, including Canada, some countries in South America and Asia and many countries in Europe. So this should allow for using the device in many countries abroad e.g. through roaming, or buying a pre-paid sim when overseas on business or holidays.
But why did they include Band 5? According to wikipedia [2] that band is only used by very few carriers around the world. Would it have not made more sense to include e.g. Band 3 (1800MHz), which is commonly used for LTE in Europe and Asia, including most of the European T-Mobile networks. That would have allowed for much broader roaming.
Furthermore, can someone confirm that the information on the webpage is correct and particularly that T-mobiles S4 really has band 7 (2600MHz) included?
[1] www samsung com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SGH-M919ZWATMB-specs
[2] en wikipedia org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
As I am not allowed to post links on this forum, I had to break the urls up this way
knowthenazz said:
So, does the S4 follow the S3? Will a T-Mobile S4 work on all other carriers in the US and Canada, but, just not have LTE speeds (Only HSPA+)?
Thanks!
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Theoretically, yes, it should work on AT&T fine as the device does support all of AT&T's bands, including their LTE bands. Of course it needs to be SIM unlocked in order for you to be able to put an AT&T SIM in it though.
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According to [1] the t-mobile version of the S4 has the following LTE bands: 1/2/4/5/7/17, which correspond to 2100 1900 1700 850 2600 700MHz.
- Bands 1 and 4 are clear, as those are the main t-mobile LTE bands.
- Metro PCS uses band 2, so given the pending merger to t-mobile, this makes sense as well.
- Band 17 is used by AT&T, which would hopefully mean a T-Mobile Galaxy S4 can be fully used on AT&T including LTE.
- Band 7, is commonly used around the world, including Canada, some countries in South America and Asia and many countries in Europe. So this should allow for using the device in many countries abroad e.g. through roaming, or buying a pre-paid sim when overseas on business or holidays.
But why did they include Band 5? According to wikipedia [2] that band is only used by very few carriers around the world. Would it have not made more sense to include e.g. Band 3 (1800MHz), which is commonly used for LTE in Europe and Asia, including most of the European T-Mobile networks. That would have allowed for much broader roaming.
Furthermore, can someone confirm that the information on the webpage is correct and particularly that T-mobiles S4 really has band 7 (2600MHz) included?
[1] www samsung com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SGH-M919ZWATMB-specs
[2] en wikipedia org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
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2600 mhz band and is for T-Mobile in European Union
To your question why. .....if they did include this to American version S4 then there will not be difference to international S4 LTE version. ....There is two different devices 9500&9505...it's a market democracy that separate this market for known reason. ....otherwise ....There is going to be way some time on road to flash different modem to give you other bands. ....flashing modem will not make hardware frequency to make changed. ...
Just follow XDA there is a lot of smart people out there that will make them
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2600 mhz band and is for T-Mobile in European Union
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T-mobile mostly uses the 1800Mhz band in Europe (UK, Germany, Croatia, Hungary, Netherlands and Czech Republic) although it does have some licenses for the 2600MHz band as well. 2600MHz is heavily used by other carriers in Europe though, which is why I was interested to get a confirmation that the t-mobile US version of the Galaxy S4 really does have that band included, as I will likely want to use it in Europe too.
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T-mobile mostly uses the 1800Mhz band in Europe (UK, Germany, Croatia, Hungary, Netherlands and Czech Republic) although it does have some licenses for the 2600MHz band as well. 2600MHz is heavily used by other carriers in Europe though, which is why I was interested to get a confirmation that the t-mobile US version of the Galaxy S4 really does have that band included, as I will likely want to use it in Europe too.
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If you go to US tmobile website and go to specification you will see exactly what you looking. ...just remember there is also important to look for given band on frequency you will operate in Europe. ..my note II Was running fine on A1 Austria Tmobile Orange and tele ring company. ...When I was in Europe. ...in Australia I was not capable running LTE be cause I do have 2600 MHZ frequency just no band for Australia. ....
There it pulled T-Mobile
Bands and frequency
HSPA+ Bands: I (UMTS 2100), II (1900), IV (1700/2100/AWS), V (850)LTE Bands: Band 1 (2100), 2 (1900), 4 (1700/2100), 5(850), 7 (2600) & 17GSM Bands: 850, 900, 1800, 1900
So if you looking for carrier that operating on 1800 it will support only GSM .......GPRS data
On other frequency you should pick high speeds data
This are A&TT Baseband and frequency from Samsung site
Frequencies and Data Type: LTE: Bands 1/4/7/17; HSPA+/UMTS: 850/1900/2100MHz; GSM: 850/900/1800/1900MHz*
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A&TT site
Wireless Technology
4G-LTE*Band 4 and 174G*HSPA+ with enhanced backhaul3G - UMTS*850/1900/2100MHzGSM/GPRS/EDGE*850/900/1800/1900MHz
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If you go to US tmobile website and go to specification you will see exactly what you looking. ...
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Ah, looks like they have updated their page to include more details now. When I looked a couple of hours ago it still only said "LTE compatible" with no indication of the exact frequency and bands it supports.
As the specs on t-mobile.com and samsung's us page now match in claiming it does have support for band 7, I'll assume it actually does. But given that the AT&T page still claims the S4 has FM radio and the supported LTE frequencies of the AT&T spec page don't match the Samsungs's spec page, it seems even the "official" specs can't always be trusted.
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Here is what the Canadian versions use:
GSM Bands:850/900/1800/1900
HSPA+/HSPA Bands:850/1900/2100
LTE Bands:2100/2600
So the T-mobile version should work no problem in Canada if we end up with a bootloader locked version up here.
Well, it looks like the Tmobile version of the S4 may be the one to get for a lot of us on ATT and in Canada since it has the right bands and the bootloader isn't locked. It just needs to be sim unlocked.
i am very interested in this option. I guess what we need is some confirmation from folks in the field/first hand experience.
I guess we need to wait for someone to sim unlock and test the LTE?
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Well, it looks like the Tmobile version of the S4 may be the one to get for a lot of us on ATT and in Canada since it has the right bands and the bootloader isn't locked. It just needs to be sim unlocked.
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Anyone tried the menu unlock for the sim like the Note 2 had?
tietherope said:
Here is what the Canadian versions use:
GSM Bands:850/900/1800/1900
HSPA+/HSPA Bands:850/1900/2100
LTE Bands:2100/2600
So the T-mobile version should work no problem in Canada if we end up with a bootloader locked version up here.
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Hi,
Is this for all Canadian versions (The Big 3 and Wind/Mobilicty)?
Thanks!
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mircury said:
Well, it looks like the Tmobile version of the S4 may be the one to get for a lot of us on ATT and in Canada since it has the right bands and the bootloader isn't locked. It just needs to be sim unlocked.
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Is the Canadian version confirmed to be SIM locked (the same as AT&T)?
Thanks!
Is the sim on the T=mobile version a micro? AT&T uses full size sims. Of course, getting a micro-sim from AT&T or using a sim cutter should work, but it is still a consideration. It also needs to be determined if the radio (software baseband) of the T-Mobile S4 takes advantage of the Hardware frequencies the phone supports. In other words, will it be optimized for AT&T networks.
The next important question is - how do you SIM UNLOCK the T-mobile S4?
If T-Mobile doesn't give you the unlock code, then this is moot.
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Hi,
Is this for all Canadian versions (The Big 3 and Wind/Mobilicty)?
Thanks!
The big 3 yes. Wind/Mobilicity, no clue but I'll check when I wake up and get to work in about 7 hours.
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Is the Canadian version confirmed to be SIM locked (the same as AT&T)?
Thanks!
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SIM locked it would be as always. Bootloader locked no one knows yet. SIM unlock on previous Galaxy devices has been done for free, or for a minimal cost.
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lanwarrior said:
The next important question is - how do you SIM UNLOCK the T-mobile S4?
If T-Mobile doesn't give you the unlock code, then this is moot.
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Order it from Negri Electronics and it comes unlocked, or order an unlock code online somewhere.
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tietherope said:
Order it from Negri Electronics and it comes unlocked, or order an unlock code online somewhere.
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I want to buy it from a US Carrier be use it comes with US Warranty. I bought Intl Note before and went dead on me...no warranty of course. I know this is rare, but having a dead $600 phone once is enough for me
Anyways, if Tmo won't provide the SIM unlock code (AT&T does), then there's no point buying it from Tmo because the phone is always locked to their network.
I would have bought the phone from AT&T, but the bootloader is locked.
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I want to buy it from a US Carrier be use it comes with US Warranty. I bought Intl Note before and went dead on me...no warranty of course. I know this is rare, but having a dead $600 phone once is enough for me
Anyways, if Tmo won't provide the SIM unlock code (AT&T does), then there's no point buying it from Tmo because the phone is always locked to their network.
I would have bought the phone from AT&T, but the bootloader is locked.
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Ouch, that's understandable for sure. I've been lucky that my international Galaxy S I-III are all still running well.
Did you buy it from an online store that claims to have a warranty or eBay or similar?
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I bought the Note 1 from Amazon - the seller was selling it through Amazon Prime. When I searched for the International Note, none that I found (eBay, Amazon, etc.) offer a 1-year warranty with Samsung USA.
Interestingly, I used to buy the International version of Nokia phones (remember those good ol day?) and Nokia USA WILL honor the warranty (I have to ship it to Melbourne, FL).
I wish Samsung USA will do the same or have a local Samsung store, like Sony Store so I can buy the phone full price from them and have full warranty. Heck, even Amazon and NewEgg are selling the Xperia ZL unlocked with US warranty! Right now my options are limited (AT&T have locked bootloader, T-Mobile SIM locked, I don't want CDMA phones).
Hola folks!
After finding enough screenshots/video reviews, I am beginning to think that from a hardware perspective the S and L variants are identical (including supported bands), whereas the K is only slightly different from S/L.
Any images of the back cover off on the K models (Olleh) will show "F400 0425 K" indicating the hardware is the "K" variant. (If you watch the review video http://www.androidcentral.com/lg-g3-review, you will notice this info up at the top on the backside, right above the camera.) UPDATE: Here is another link with an image http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/06/lg-g3-review-a-great-phone-with-way-too-many-pixels/#image-4
On the S/L (SK Telecom, LG U+) models, they say "F400 0423 S/L" on the SK Telecom model ("S" variant), and "F400 0425 S/L" on the LG U+ model ("L" variant). You can find images of the "S" model with engadget's review (http://www.engadget.com/gallery/lg-g3-review/2676959/#!slide=2676963), and images of the "L" model with ubreakifix's F400L teardown (http://www.ubreakifix.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/ubif-g3-21.jpg).
(Thanks and kudos to the review sites and teardown site for the images.)
As an owner of the F400S, I can tell you that all 3 variants will run on AT&T LTE (as a lot of our LTE is on Band 17 - 700 MHz spectrum). I was able to load my F400S with the TOT and DLL files of all 3 variants (currently waiting on getting it back to the "S" variant once the DLL is posted), and all 3 variants will connect to AT&T with no issues (for those of you that plan on importing like I did).
So for those of you who managed to brick your new G3, as long as you can ADB into it, you can edit your build.prop file with the corresponding korean variant model info, and load any stock image. As @wolfgart has posted a great thread with the TOTs and DLLs, I recommend swinging through there for more info. If you have a K variant, load the K TOT and DLL, and you are fine.
For those of us with S/L variants--with the above info and enough tinkering in the hidden menus of all 3 variants, I can tell you that from a hardware perspective these two models are nearly identical. From a modem/supported frequencies perspective, the S and L variants support the exact same frequencies--meaning, if you bricked your S or L version, you can restore it with an S or L TOT and DLL (after editing build.prop if needed) and you will still get all of your original hardware supported bands/frequencies. This is critical for those of you using LTE Band 5 to connect to your data... (should not be the case for any US AT&T users...).
UPDATE: in the 'Android Development' section, wolfgart's thread with the TOTs and DLLs have been updated to now include the files for all 3 models. So unless you know what you are doing with a build.prop edit, probably best to stick with what came with the phones for those who are new to this stuff.
The main difference between the S/L and K phones in frequency/band support is that LTE Band 8 is supported on the K model only, whereas you will get LTE Band 5 support on the S/L models. All other bands and frequencies (WCDMA/GSM) are the same across all 3 models. All 3 also support LTE Band 17, and will connect to AT&T in the US.
Took me a while to figure this out, but I had a long weekend
Cool! nice to know, thanks for the well explained post
Any thoughts about the L/S version suporting LTE Band 7?
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Any thoughts about the L/S version suporting LTE Band 7?
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Unfortunately, I don't connect to LTE with band 7 so I can't say much on that. However, just based on the hidden menus in both (I am using the L version on my S variant phone at the moment), they both have the same listings of 1,3,5,7 for supported bands.
LTE 700, 850, 1800, 2100, 2600 (Band 17, Band 5, Band 3, Band 1, and Band 7 respectively)
UMTS 850, 1900, 2100
GSM 800, 900, 1800, 1900
The above are the fully supported bands on the S and L variants.
The below are the fully supported bands on the K variant.
LTE 700, 900, 1800, 2100, 2600 (Band 17, Band 8, Band 3, Band 1, and Band 7 respectively)
UMTS 850, 1900, 2100
GSM 800, 900, 1800, 1900
I don't have the K variant on my device now, but I recall the only band difference is that it supports LTE band 8 (900 MHz) instead of LTE band 5 (850 MHz), but other supported bands are the same. LTE Band 5 is one of the primary bands for both SK Telecom and LG U+ (which partially explains why the two phones have nearly identical hardware, including modem support).
Hope this answers your question. As support for those frequencies are built in (and it makes sense on LG as a mass manufacturer--They can use the same modem and just rebrand it like they did in Korea for the S and L variants).
Why is the S one more expensive than the L?
gsanches said:
Why is the S one more expensive than the L?
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That, my friend, is a question you will have to ask LG and SK Telecom. We sorta see that in the US every so often with "special editions" that aren't really that special and they will add an extra 100ish.
Off-contract, LG U+ is the most affordable right now, with SK Telecom right around $700 USD. With markup and shipping, etc. eBayers are selling it for $750-800.
Also, you have to remember the G3 is a hot commodity even in Korea right now. Had some friends who thought it was funny I got a phone overseas before they even bothered joining the bandwagon.
So though I can't say for sure why exactly it's more expensive, I can definitely say it has to do with the fact that the phone is still only 3 weeks old
And none of those 3 will work on T-Mobile LTE which needs 1700 and 2100Mhz most of time.
There are some spots with 900Mhz support though.
But as much as I want G3, I'll wait for the T-Mo version.
Yeah...I'm a proud owner of a Htc One M7...I have been thinking a lot and decided that it's time to change. I'm comparing the M8, the Z2, the G3 for a long time and finally think that this last one will be the one...unfortunately it's still very soon to easily find information regarding this phone online...
Your information helped me a lot...now I know exactly which variant to buy :fingers-crossed:...thank you guys very much
gsanches said:
Yeah...I'm a proud owner of a Htc One M7...I have been thinking a lot and decided that it's time to change. I'm comparing the M8, the Z2, the G3 for a long time and finally think that this last one will be the one...unfortunately it's still very soon to easily find information regarding this phone online...
Your information helped me a lot...now I know exactly which variant to buy :fingers-crossed:...thank you guys very much
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It looks like you are planning on doing the same upgrade I did. I still have my M7 as my backup , but definitely gotta say I am loving my G3.
That's amazing man...I've been a HTC fan since the Sensation...but currently I feel that they are been left behind...
I'm really sorry, but other brands are offering a lot more for the same price.
The HTC will always win in design and the quality of the phone's body, screen and, of course, sound!...but they are losing in the rest...UI, camera, battery life definitely...it's just sad
Nice to know that you're enjoying your G3...I hope I'll be as happy as you are in a few weeks...and judging by how much I've researched about it...I'm sure I'll love it!!!
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sorry, which of these three variants brings FM radio? K, L, S, and if for example buy the K version, if you install the L or S variant fm radio works?
I´m about to buy a G3 and found some model have an antenna, is that correct?, anybody knows what tv frequencies can handle?. Thanks!
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sorry, which of these three variants brings FM radio? K, L, S, and if for example buy the K version, if you install the L or S variant fm radio works?
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From my research, none of the korean models (F400 S/K/L) support FM radio. Instead of an FM radio tuner, they are offered with Korea's DMB tuner, for korean DMB support.
I have only seen DMB function while in Korea and Japan. Anywhere else in the world, you will have to check with local providers, as some countries will charge for DMB as a service (just like satellite television).
Hope this helps
ferluci said:
I´m about to buy a G3 and found some model have an antenna, is that correct?, anybody knows what tv frequencies can handle?. Thanks!
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The only frequencies it can support is anything broadcasted as DMB. Certain countries offer DMB subscription services, but you will have to research if it is offered where you live.
In the US, DMB is unavailable so I just have a nice long antenna that people crack up at in the year 2014, but completely unusable where I am. I just tell them its for better service as a side joke lol
mikeythedude said:
The only frequencies it can support is anything broadcasted as DMB. Certain countries offer DMB subscription services, but you will have to research if it is offered where you live.
In the US, DMB is unavailable so I just have a nice long antenna that people crack up at in the year 2014, but completely unusable where I am. I just tell them its for better service as a side joke lol
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OK! Thank you
Anyone know which one is the best for AT&T
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Anyone know which one is the best for AT&T
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Any of them will do. I would say go for the one that gives you the best price. At this point, enough AT&T users have gotten their hands on all 3 variants. Most can get LTE through band 17 (700 MHz) which is available on all 3 phones.
Will the D855 variant (with LTE 700MHz) be able to use on AT&T (band class 17) or Verizon (band class 13)?
Or to be more specific, will the D855 cover all 700MHz US band class (12, 13, 14, and 17)?
Thanks!
kittiyut said:
Will the D855 variant (with LTE 700MHz) be able to use on AT&T (band class 17) or Verizon (band class 13)?
Or to be more specific, will the D855 cover all 700MHz US band class (12, 13, 14, and 17)?
Thanks!
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You would have to check which specific band class of 700 MHz the D855 would be capable of connecting to. As I do not have the D855, and specs are varied on the internet right now, I cannot say for sure.
The FCC had ruled four separate band classes to operate on the 700 MHz spectrum in America--Band 17 700 MHz capable modems cannot connect to any of the other 700 MHz band classes and vice versa. (It was claimed that they did not want to have any network interference issues. Carriers purchased the rights to access certain chunks of the 700 MHz spectrum, and they are isolated to those carriers only.)
I am seeing 700MHz (B28) support on D855 models, but I believe that might be related to certain LTE-A rollouts in Europe (meaning it may not be able to connect to current 700 MHz bands in the US (as the US does not have LTE-A networks at the moment) and new band classes are issued for LTE-A (i.e. Band 28).
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The only frequencies it can support is anything broadcasted as DMB. Certain countries offer DMB subscription services, but you will have to research if it is offered where you live.
In the US, DMB is unavailable so I just have a nice long antenna that people crack up at in the year 2014, but completely unusable where I am. I just tell them its for better service as a side joke lol
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Does the antenna stand out much? Or is it hidden? Thanks
I'm VERY concerned about buying this phone now. T-Mobile have only listed LTE bands 4 & 17 on their site.
International
Quad Band GSM; LTE: 4, 17; UMTS: Band I (2100), Band II (1900), Band IV (1700/2100), Band V (850)
What in the eff?
Des just answererd this question on Twitter: https://twitter.com/askdes/status/581568102015569920
It has:
GSM - 850/900/1800/1900
UMTS - B1/B2/B4/B5
LTE - B2/B4/B12/B17 with CA + B3/B7 roaming
This is the perfect T-Mobile phone.
So the T-Mobile version does not have 1700, and is therefore identical to the other models? Do we know if it includes wifi-calling, or if we would be able to flash the T-Mobile ROM onto the unlocked dev version?
malakai1911 said:
Des just answererd this question on Twitter: https://twitter.com/askdes/status/581568102015569920
It has:
GSM - 850/900/1800/1900
UMTS - B1/B2/B4/B5
LTE - B2/B4/B12/B17 with CA + B3/B7 roaming
This is the perfect T-Mobile phone.
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But doesn't the AT&T, Unlocked, or Dev model include all of those bands and then some?
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So the T-Mobile version does not have 1700, and is therefore identical to the other models? Do we know if it includes wifi-calling, or if we would be able to flash the T-Mobile ROM onto the unlocked dev version?
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It does have 1700! That's Band 4, and for both LTE and HSPA.
The T-Mobile version also supports WiFi calling and texting. I have no idea if the T-Mobile firmware can be flashed to the unlocked version, but I don't see why it wouldn't be feasible.
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But doesn't the AT&T, Unlocked, or Dev model include all of those bands and then some?
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T-Mobile (Des) confirmed: 2, 3, 4, 7, 12, and 17
AT&T lists: 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 12, 17, and 29 (adds +5 and +29)
HTC Dev & Unlocked versions (per HTC on Twitter): 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 12, 13, 17, 29, 30 (adds +5, +13, +29, +30)
Maybe the T-Mo phone supports more that could be unlocked, who knows. The extra bands aren't useful to me.
Sorry, but I just want to clarify.
Do all versions of this phone support BAND IV UMTS or not?
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But doesn't the AT&T, Unlocked, or Dev model include all of those bands and then some?
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HTC has done this on the past couple of phones. Only the T-Mobile phone will do their specific bands (HSPA+). On past models I don't recall anyone getting the ATT/DEV models to work with those T-Mobile bands. I don't believe we ever found out why. Some speculated it was due to cost to license all the bands, or that it is actually different hardware. The M7 and M8 were both like that.
If you are on T-Mobile, I'd get the model specifically for them.
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HTC has done this on the past couple of phones. Only the T-Mobile phone will do their specific bands (HSPA+). On past models I don't recall anyone getting the ATT/DEV models to work with those T-Mobile bands. I don't believe we ever found out why. Some speculated it was due to cost to license all the bands, or that it is actually different hardware. The M7 and M8 were both like that.
If you are on T-Mobile, I'd get the model specifically for them.
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Oh yeah I remember my Dev version being like that. Fortunately, I live in an area that has been upgraded to mostly lte. This was actually beneficial for me and maybe others in the same situation because it actually saves battery life when the phone isn't constantly switching between edge, 3g/+, and lte. I'm sure many others have been in an area that's barely out of lte but still within h+ range and it's still slow as edge or even slower.
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Oh yeah I remember my Dev version being like that. Fortunately, I live in an area that has been upgraded to mostly lte. This was actually beneficial for me and maybe others in the same situation because it actually saves battery life when the phone isn't constantly switching between edge, 3g/+, and lte. I'm sure many others have been in an area that's barely out of lte but still within h+ range and it's still slow as edge or even slower.
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Yes, it is OK if you live in a major area that has lots of LTE. Here just north of LA, I get into the other bands pretty frequently.
I am not sure this was answered? Do all versions of the HTC one m 9 support band 4 UMTS? Many ATT carrier unlocked models are for sale and no one seems to know if they will pick up the UMTS 1700 band 4 on T- Mo?
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I am not sure this was answered? Do all versions of the HTC one m 9 support band 4 UMTS? Many ATT carrier unlocked models are for sale and no one seems to know if they will pick up the UMTS 1700 band 4 on T- Mo?
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The AT&T M9 I bought does.
maddie01 said:
I am not sure this was answered? Do all versions of the HTC one m 9 support band 4 UMTS? Many ATT carrier unlocked models are for sale and no one seems to know if they will pick up the UMTS 1700 band 4 on T- Mo?
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They will not pick up the T-Mobile specific bands, which use 1900/2100 for 41bps speed. They will work with the T-Mobile LTE band.
Wow, still a mystery. I have the AT&T SIM Unlocked One M9 and I have a TMobile prepaid SIM and get Edge, 3G, 4G, LTE Band 2,4,12...I cannot find an app that shows the actual WCDMA (4G) Bands ? But, it notates 42 MBPS when it says HSPA+ 4G using Network Signal Info-Pro App..and also shows 384 Kbps when it says 3G....
So, seems Des is correct unless the Network Signal Info Pro app is wrong?
I turned off everything except WCDMA, and this is what I get being reported by LTE Discovery. HSPA+ @ -113. I have a ATT unlocked M9. I do have the T-Mobile 2.11.531.19 firmware installed as well as the T-Mobile rom.
Using XDA to unleash the power of Android on my HTC One M9
Thanks but as I mentioned I cannot find an App that shows the WCDMA Bands to confirm. As you can see even LTE Discovery says N/A for DL and UL Freq...when on WCDMA...
The only App I can see that helps is Network Signal Info Pro...and unfortunately it is limited and shows me the below in my market;
HSPA+ 42.2 MBPS
HSDPA 7.2 MBPS
UMTS 386 KBPS
But, does not indicate which Band or Frequency ?
Anyone know of an App or Command that will show WCDMA Bands???
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In Taiwan the new HTC ONE M9 offers the following LTE Bands which sucks in you travel abroad often. I saw this info at the Taiwan Mobile shop in Taipei. If you travel to America and want to use T-Mobile then you will be missing Band 12 and other bands which keep you from having 4G LTE in the US. The new Galaxy S6 Edge is the better choice if you are a frequent traveler and want wider 4G LTE Band coverage.
LTE FDD 01,03,05,07,08,20,29
LTE TDD 38,40,41
Asian LTE bands have never matched American and vice versa..
P.S. It was even worse with M7 and M8 though..
Overseas Electronics made an unboxing video of a TW version. I have captured the back of the box. I see only 700/900/1800 Mhz LTE support.
But anywhere else FDD：1、3、5、7、8、20、28 頻段.
Can anyone confirm there is only one Asian unlocked version?
estore . htc. com /tw/buy/zh-TW/shop/allCategories/mobile/htc-one-m9
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Overseas Electronics made an unboxing video of a TW version. I have captured the back of the box. I see only 700/900/1800 Mhz LTE support.
But anywhere else FDD：1、3、5、7、8、20、28 頻段.
Can anyone confirm there is only one Asian unlocked version?
estore . htc. com /tw/buy/zh-TW/shop/allCategories/mobile/htc-one-m9
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I posted a clear picture of an unlocked version from Taiwan Mobile's Computer.
desiregeek said:
In Taiwan the new HTC ONE M9 offers the following LTE Bands which sucks in you travel abroad often. I saw this info at the Taiwan Mobile shop in Taipei. If you travel to America and want to use T-Mobile then you will be missing Band 12 and other bands which keep you from having 4G LTE in the US. The new Galaxy S6 Edge is the better choice if you are a frequent traveler and want wider 4G LTE Band coverage.
LTE FDD 01,03,05,07,08,20,29
LTE TDD 38,40,41
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The bands are for SEA (south-east asia) version. Details at http://www.htc.com/sea/smartphones/htc-one-m9/
M8 did not support that many bands; so they have different models for different countries.
For those who travel around Asia including China and possibly Europe, the 4G coverage is pretty good. :victory:
List of supported LTE bands for each country can be found at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
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Overseas Electronics made an unboxing video of a TW version. I have captured the back of the box. I see only 700/900/1800 Mhz LTE support.
But anywhere else FDD：1、3、5、7、8、20、28 頻段.
Can anyone confirm there is only one Asian unlocked version?
estore . htc. com /tw/buy/zh-TW/shop/allCategories/mobile/htc-one-m9
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Mike Lim said:
The bands are for SEA (south-east asia) version. Details at http://www.htc.com/sea/smartphones/htc-one-m9/
M8 did not support that many bands; so they have different models for different countries.
For those who travel around Asia including China and possibly Europe, the 4G coverage is pretty good. :victory:
List of supported LTE bands for each country can be found at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
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Total of 10 Bands for the HTC ONE M9 and a total of 19 for the Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge in Taiwan. If one does not travel too often this is not much of a concern but if one travels often and especially between Asia and America then the Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge will have the edge over the HTC One M9 because one can use it on T-Mobile's 4G LTE Network in America and get 4G LTE service in Asia as well where this is not possible with the HTC One M9. Not sure why HTC decided to do this. They always manage to find a way to lose a sale.
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Total of 10 Bands for the HTC ONE M9 and a total of 19 for the Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge in Taiwan. If one does not travel too often this is not much of a concern but if one travels often and especially between Asia and America then the Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge will have the edge over the HTC One M9 because one can use it on T-Mobile's 4G LTE Network in America and get 4G LTE service in Asia as well where this is not possible with the HTC One M9. Not sure why HTC decided to do this. They always manage to find a way to lose a sale.
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Believe the 4G bands are provided by SnapDragon chip. There could be other models.
Any idea what is the exact Samsung model that supports 19 bands?
There seems to be many models around as per http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s6_edge-7079.php
SM-G9250 (China, HK), SM-G925A (AT&T), SM-G925F (Global), SM-G925FQ (Turkey), SM-G925I (LATAM, Singapore, India, Australia), SM-G925K (Korea), SM-G925L, SM-G925S (Korea), SM-G925T (T-Mobile).
Mike Lim said:
Believe the 4G bands are provided by SnapDragon chip. There could be other models.
Any idea what is the exact Samsung model that supports 19 bands?
There seems to be many models around as per http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s6_edge-7079.php
SM-G9250 (China, HK), SM-G925A (AT&T), SM-G925F (Global), SM-G925FQ (Turkey), SM-G925I (LATAM, Singapore, India, Australia), SM-G925K (Korea), SM-G925L, SM-G925S (Korea), SM-G925T (T-Mobile).
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The Galaxy S6 Edge in Taiwan. This picture was taken from the computer of Taiwan Mobile here in Taiwan.
I think the specs are similar to the ones in Hong Kong by Smartone. See link below and click on specs.
http://www.smartone.com/en/mobile_and_price_plans/handsets/samsung/galaxy-s6-edge/2850/#!price-plan
Guess those who travel between Asia and US can try the unlocked developer edition.
From http://www.htc.com/us/go/htc-one-unlocked-developer/
HTC One M9 Unlocked & Developer Edition Band Support
2 (1,900 MHz)
3 (1,800 MHz)
4 (1,700 MHz AWS)
5 (850 MHz)
7 (2,600 MHz)
12 (700 MHz lower A/B/C)
13 (700 MHz upper C)
17 (700 MHz lower B/C)
29 (700 MHz D/E)
30 (2,300 MHz WCS)
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Mike Lim said:
Guess those who travel between Asia and US can try the unlocked developer edition.
From http://www.htc.com/us/go/htc-one-unlocked-developer/
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Those bands actually sick unless you live in America. For those that travel the important bands are still missing for 4G LTE
Has anyone successfully unlocked all the frequency bands for the 5s. I did see a thread on the Mi5 being unlocked. Secondly if they can be unlocked does it actually work on all the North American LTE bands, specifically Rogers in Canada.
any help appreciated.....if it can be done I'll be buying the phone. I like the specs.
I'm a bit confused at what you're asking here. 1 minute of googling tells me Rodgers only supports LTE bands 4, 7 (with 12 being deployed) and only in 'select markets' (source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rogers_Wireless#LTE)
Further 2 seconds of googling shows me that the mi 5s radio only supports LTE band 1(2100), 3(1800), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 38(2600), 39(1900), 40(2300), 41(2500) (source: http://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_5s-7260.php)
So basic logic is telling me that if have Rodgers, and you don't have coverage by band 7, you don't have LTE.
There is no magical bullet to make a radio support frequencies it does not support. (RTFM).
Seems some people have had some success:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/cr...ad-progress-please-leave-im-updating-t2871269
alloysious,
OP is inquiring whether frequency band 4 can be unlocked for Mi5S?
viperpiper,
Please keep posted, if you come across any info that help to unlock the band 4 for Mi5S. I am also looking for that.
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alloysious,
OP is inquiring whether frequency band 4 can be unlocked for Mi5S?
viperpiper,
Please keep posted, if you come across any info that help to unlock the band 4 for Mi5S. I am also looking for that.
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Try this:
From Dialer: *#*#4636#*#*
Select SIM you want (for me was 'Phone info2')
Select 'TD-SCDMA, DMS/WCDMA and LTE' to change your radio settings
Select last one on list above Unknown.
(for me was TD-SCDMA, LTE, CDMA, EVDO, GSM/WCDMA)
You should now have everything your radio supports enabled.
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Looks like some others on this forum have had some success with other phones. Try it out and let us know-
https://forum.xda-developers.com/cr...ad-progress-please-leave-im-updating-t2871269
Is somebody going to try?
I just saw, from what I could read, is that the original Mi5 (not the Mi5s) they managed to unlock all the bands but 20. So could the same method be used and if so would that make the Mi5s compatible with North American carriers ?
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I just saw, from what I could read, is that the original Mi5 (not the Mi5s) they managed to unlock all the bands but 20. So could the same method be used and if so would that make the Mi5s compatible with North American carriers ?
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Not sure - you should give it a try, if you currently don't have a working LTE phone
So OP did it work? could you unlock band 4?
I've been following this thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-5/how-to/progress-trying-to-unlock-bands-t3337476/page71. Nothing good has happened so far on b20.