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I have one of those anker 6 port charges capable of pushing 2.4 amps per port up to 8amps total. Even with only my phone plugged in the phone charges at 1amp or maybe a little faster. I just got a fast charger and gsam reports its pushing out 2.4 amps full. So why is a charger capable of 2.4 amps only pushing out half that?
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sportscrazed2 said:
I have one of those anker 6 port charges capable of pushing 2.4 amps per port up to 8amps total. Even with only my phone plugged in the phone charges at 1amp or maybe a little faster. I just got a fast charger and gsam reports its pushing out 2.4 amps full. So why is a charger capable of 2.4 amps only pushing out half that?
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Does the Anker 6 port charge any devices on that port/cable at 2.4? Or is it just the ZF2 that's getting the limited power?
Are all of the ports capable of pushing the full 2.4?
Seems to be more a question of the charger than it is a question of the phone.
Any reason this didnt go in the questions section?.
Didn't know where to put it and when in doubt I go with general because general is general. And now there is nothing else on charger 99% of time
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I had that issue and found the higher amperages require better cables. Try different cables. Also how are you getting the charging numbers?
You need a Qualcomm QC 2.0 compatible charger to get faster charging speed.
The Anker PowerPort 6 60W 6-Port USB Charging Hub Multi-Port USB Charger does not support QC2.0 (Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0). I have this exact charging hub. Here's a link to the charging hub in question. Here's one that does support it.
Yes I understand that but if phone is capable of accepting 2.4 and the charger is capable of 2.4 I don't see why I need a special charger. But oh well I ordered one for each floor of my house
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The kernel won't accept more than 1.35A for the 5.2V (or 5V) charger that doesn't support Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0, even if the charger supports 2.4A, or 20A.
If the charger supports Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0 the kernel will accept 9V / 2A from 0-60% charge, and 5V / 2A for 61-100% charge, even if the charger supports more amps.
It's just like charging it via USB 2.0, and 3.0 ports. It will charge at the same rate (5V @ 500mA I believe) on any port even if USB 3.0 supports 900 mA and USB 2.0 only 500 mA.
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The kernel won't accept more than 1.35A for the 5.2V (or 5V) charger that doesn't support Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0, even if the charger supports 2.4A, or 20A.
If the charger supports Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0 the kernel will accept 9V / 2A from 0-60% charge, and 5V / 2A for 61-100% charge, even if the charger supports more amps.
It's just like charging it via USB 2.0, and 3.0 ports. It will charge at the same rate (5V @ 500mA I believe) on any port even if USB 3.0 supports 900 mA and USB 2.0 only 500 mA.
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Makes sense. Kinda lame that I can't get faster on regular chargers but oh well I now own 3 quick chargers for in a pinch
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Just got my 5x today, and it does "rapid charging" when I connect with the charger in the box, but when I connect using other USB cables/plugs (one supports QC 2.0, the other is a regular charger but supports 2.1A charging), I get a message that the device is "Charging slowly."
Are there other certain specs that a cable or charger has to have to take advantage of rapid charging?
Fast charging on USB-C is apparently very picky when it comes to cables. I havent't tried charging from the USB-A cables that I bought, but the reviews for one that I was considering said that the cable limited the charging capability to 500mA. I know little about qcomm's Quick Charging but I do know that it requires feedback from an enabled device before it will allow full power. I wouldn't be surprised if the lack of that feedback from the N5X was limiting current from the charger, but it definitely looks like a quality cable is the first step to success. Notice how thick the factory LG cable is...
Most cables limit current by a significant amount. Even factory ones. That's why the OnePlus One charger was so popular. The wall dongle was nothing special (2.0A) but the cable was thick enough to actually let it output that current. The only difference now is that our phone will actually tell us if it's hooked up to a crappy charger/cable.
Thanks for the reply, I'll have to do some hunting on Amazon for another cable and see what happens.
Appreciate it if anyone else can chime in too.
the Nexus 5X does not support Qualcomm Quick Charge, at all.
Thanks, I know QC is not supported, I was just offering up that I tried one, and that I tried multiple charges that support 2.1A charging.
Interestingly enough, if I use either of the QC certified chargers that I got along with my S6 (which only output 2A) I get rapid charging. Using an Anker QC charger (also 2A) I don't, and using a different charger (can't remember the brand at the moment, but also 2A, but not QC), I also get slow charging.
Hmm...
I ask this since it seems more feasible than enabling something like Quick Charge 3/2.X since this method is open and not proprietary.
It also seems feasible since the OnePlus 3 can clearly handle up to 4A of current at 5V (dash charge) so in terms of hardware it should be able to handle 3A at 5V similarly to the Nexus 5X/6P via the standard USB-C spec.
It doesn't even seem to be able to handle 2.4A via a USB-A to USB-C cable, or even via a USB-C charger using a USB-C cable.
Is there some hardware or software limitation I'm perhaps missing? If it's a USB-C device it should be able to charge via the USB-C standard
To my knowledge one plus promised dash source by the end of July. Also to my knowledge is something must be enabled and PCB hardware must enable fast charging. Galaxy s7 doesn't have qc3.0 despite having the correct hardware.
ahrion said:
To my knowledge one plus promised dash source by the end of July. Also to my knowledge is something must be enabled and PCB hardware must enable fast charging. Galaxy s7 doesn't have qc3.0 despite having the correct hardware.
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i do understand something needs to be enabled for QC2/3.X but why for USB-C?
Short answer ... no one knows and they're talking out of their ass ...
Long answer - Even if its a hardware/software enabled type feature - most do not know how to program it well enough to incorporate it. So everyone has to rely on source code with it already programmed to include it with any rom. Some guys can program it but dont have the resources and/or phone to do so. The average programmer reading your comments doesnt know specifics which is why you get a lot of "to my knowledge" "as far as I know" "in theory" type statements
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I ask this since it seems more feasible than enabling something like Quick Charge 3/2.X since this method is open and not proprietary.
It also seems feasible since the OnePlus 3 can clearly handle up to 4A of current at 5V (dash charge) so in terms of hardware it should be able to handle 3A at 5V similarly to the Nexus 5X/6P via the standard USB-C spec.
It doesn't even seem to be able to handle 2.4A via a USB-A to USB-C cable, or even via a USB-C charger using a USB-C cable.
Is there some hardware or software limitation I'm perhaps missing? If it's a USB-C device it should be able to charge via the USB-C standard
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Quickcharge is closed and proprietary, it's just the licensing is cheap. It only work on phone that have recent qualcomm SoC. Yes our OP3 have a SD820 but the manufacturer also have to implement it in the phone, with software but also hardware.
It's a shame that Oneplus didn't use Quickcharge because with the price of one Dash Charger or VOOC charger you can buy a 6 port quickcharge 3.0 charger... And quickcharge can use standard cable (if you use another usb C cable than the one provided, the red and blue one, dash charge don't work even with the dash charger)
So I'll tell you one reason why the Oneplus 3 won't support quickcharge even with some hack : charging a lithium battery at a high voltage make it go BOOM!
Quickcharge use 9, 12 or even 20V to make charge faster (and it's an advantage with low quality usb cable). So the phone have to be able to convert 9 or 12V down to 4.2V and it's a hardware matter.
Now for the 5V/3A of the USB-C spec, it's Oneplus that limit it (and it's safer that way). I tested many charger with a voltmeter. I used some charger from 1.8A to 2.4A and it only draw 1.5A. I used a genuine apple charger at 1A (the A1400) and it only draw 0.5A, the same when it's hooked on a computer. With the dash charger and the dash cable, it go up to 3.5A. It's not 4A but it charge pretty fast. With the same charger but with a normal USB-C cable (2.0 and 3.1 i tried) it draw 1.5A.
So the dash cable use some extra pin to make the phone identifying the dash charger and the dash cable, when one is missing, it charges at 1.5A or even 0.5A.
Why Oneplus don't use the full 3A of the USB-C spec? Dash charge/VOOC I guess.
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Now for the 5V/3A of the USB-C spec, it's Oneplus that limit it (and it's safer that way).
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If it's "unsafe" then why would Google use in the Nexus line? If anything, all of the quick charge out of spec systems (like dash charge or quick charge) are "unsafe"
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Why Oneplus don't use the full 3A of the USB-C spec? Dash charge/VOOC I guess.
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you can have BOTH. why REMOVE USB-C 15W charging?
charging slower is safer than charging at high voltage or intensity, I didn't imply anything else.
If the charger provided can do 5V 3A like the one provided with the Nexus 6P can actually charge at 3A a Oneplus 3, how can you sell a dash charger with a dash cable that do 3.5A (and the VOOC charger that is even more expensive and need a micro usb to USB-C adapter)
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charging slower is safer than charging at high voltage or intensity, I didn't imply anything else.
If the charger provided can do 5V 3A like the one provided with the Nexus 6P can actually charge at 3A a Oneplus 3, how can you sell a dash charger with a dash cable that do 3.5A (and the VOOC charger that is even more expensive and need a micro usb to USB-C adapter)
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Easily? Dash charge is far more quick not to mention heat efficient
Also, slower charging is not safer by default -it's less hot charging that is safer more so,
Dash charge is heat efficient? Yes it will be warmer on a cold day. Like any battery charging slower is better for the battery life.
I don't understand your last sentence, sorry
If you are talking about the efficiency between the power on input and output from the charger, I think that the power is not high enough to really make a difference with a standard charger.
I am still a big fan of Qualcomm quick charge because I could use a 3 meter (10ft maybe) usb cable not even made of thick gauge.
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I think what he is getting at is during quick charge the higher voltage results in more heat in the phone, with dash charge the heat is contained in the charger. Thus phone stays cool during charge which is safer for the phone.
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I think what he is getting at is during quick charge the higher voltage results in more heat in the phone, with dash charge the heat is contained in the charger. Thus phone stays cool during charge which is safer for the phone.
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Exactly.
I've had a nexus 5x before and own a pixel table. Both come with USB C port to charge. So i bought a itian qc3.0 charger at that time. (http://www.gearbest.com/chargers-cables/pp_389793.html)
Now i changed to the lg g6, but it refused to do the 'fast charging ' when i use that chargers qc3.0 port and even says 'slow charging' when connecting to the usb c output.
Is it the combination that's just flakey or did they put something specific in the original charger that comes with the lg g6?
I'm bit lost on the topic of chargers currently, anyone care to enlighten me on what should could would work?
Lg g6 is picky I think
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I'm using the charger from my Nexus 6 and my G6 says that it's quick charging. Only QC 2.0 on that one though.
Obscure Reference said:
I'm using the charger from my Nexus 6 and my G6 says that it's quick charging. Only QC 2.0 on that one though.
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wtf.. i hate your luckiness :angel:
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wtf.. i hate your luckiness :angel:
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Works fine with my wife's charger from her Galaxy Note 4 as well. ? (Pretty sure that's a QC 2.0 charger as well.)
Does LG not provide a qc 3.0 charger with their own phone ??
Mine came with a MCS-H06UR charger.
Rated @ 9.0V 1.8A / 5.0V 1.8A
After a quick Google search I've had no luck ascertaining if this is QC 2.0 or QC 3.0.
From what I can tell, my phone charges as fast if not faster using the 5V/3A charger that came with my 6P.
From what I've read online, the LG G6 also supports USB-PD.
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Off topic a bit. Thoughts on overnight wireless charging. I have a great charging cradle that I want to use but don't want phone to crack at night from hours of heat. Sony z2 and z4v had issues with that
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Off topic a bit. Thoughts on overnight wireless charging. I have a great charging cradle that I want to use but don't want phone to crack at night from hours of heat. Sony z2 and z4v had issues with that
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Shouldn't really get hot once it's fully charged?
The charger that comes with it is a quick charge 3.0 charger and can completely charge your phone from zero in less than 2 hours easily. You have to use the cord that came with it though, or at least one that is compatible. If you look at the icons, you will see a different one than the usual charging icon. Pulling down the menu shows something about fast-charging when its active.
My experience comes from the Sprint version.
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Off topic a bit. Thoughts on overnight wireless charging. I have a great charging cradle that I want to use but don't want phone to crack at night from hours of heat. Sony z2 and z4v had issues with that
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i use one from Tylt each night since im always on-call. havent had a problem once.
None of my QC 3.0 charger fast chagrge my G6. The QC 2.0 chargers do.
I've bought a Choetech wall usb charger, QuickCharge 3.0 with its usb type-c cable, and when I plug it on LG G6, it says that there's fast charging.
https://amzn.com/B019Q5WT6W
I do not believe the LG stock charger is qc qc 3.0 compatible because its fixed mat output at 9v is 1.8a
qc 3.0 defines the max amps at each voltage level from 5v to 9v to 12v
I ended up buying anker qc 3.0 chargers for my car and for ac wall outlet. also bought their nice braided usb c cable. every combination yields a fast charger notification in the drop down and the ampere app confirms this. also watching the real time output is impressive from all these chargers.
the benefit to using a certified qc 3.0 charger is that the phone will tell it exactly what amps to deliver based on charge & temp.
further, the G6 has a heat pipe to help cool the entire phone including the battery, to help prevent a galaxy note scenario.
wireless charging is slow Qi spec and is NOT fast like samsung. however, slow charging over wireless is great for overnight.
I use anker's qi charging puck and it works great except I have to remove my case. same with the samsung fast charger puck. my wife doesn't have to remove the case on her S7 to do regular or fast charging. LG's design is obviously inferior for the Qi to pickup and activate the coil.
Today Amazon delivered also this Anker dual usb car charger (QuickCharge 3.0):
http://amzn.com/B01K9MQ8WW
and when LG G6 is connected it shows that is in fast charging mode.
Those who bought QC 3.0 charger and those who trying different cables with LG G6 charger, Try Cable from Oneplus 3, I get an improved charging of 10-20 minutes less compared to stock LG cable
The issue might be the cable you're using. I've had no trouble fast charging using an old ASUS QC 2.0 charger, or a cheap car QC 3.0 charger. Even when using microUSB cables with USB-C adapter tips, but I'm using decent cables (mostly Monoprice and Anker).
I've confirmed that the charger that came with my G6 is QC3.0 (model MCS-H06UR, UK 3-pin). Using a USB power meter, the voltage will increase from 5V to 9V in small steps. If I use a QC 2.0 charger (stock charger from Note4/S7edge), it will jump from 5V to 9V immediately.
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I've bought a Choetech wall usb charger, QuickCharge 3.0 with its usb type-c cable, and when I plug it on LG G6, it says that there's fast charging.
https://amzn.com/B019Q5WT6W
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How much time does it take to charge fully? Did you record time ?
Did anyone find a good fast car charger?
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Try any type from Anker. As long as it has qualcomm fast charging, it is fast enough. Only a couple minutes behind stock samsung charger.
I have advice for you.
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Did anyone find a good fast car charger?
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I think you should go to the stores and look for them, they have lots and their staff will advise you.
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Did anyone find a good fast car charger?
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Edit From My Post Below. As I looked more into this, my wall charger that came with my phone is just a small 25w box EP-TA800 which I don't understand why accubattery says its getting 5,000+ mAh from it but needless to say the baseus car charger below is able to supply the 25w means while my Anker charger doesn't https://www.amazon.ca/Anker-Charger...rger&qid=1575374418&smid=AREE309N4XPXI&sr=8-5 . It looks like I need a new cable to make this 45w thing to work, if it even works with baseus. but still better then the pixel 2 xl 16.3W charging speed. But even if one where able to achieve 45w charging speeds. It would only be good for the first %50 the rest cuts down in speed.
The Baseus 45W Quick Charge 4.0 3.0 USB Car Charger For iPhone Xiaomi mi Huawei QC4.0 QC3.0 QC PD 6A Fast Charging Car Phone Charger from https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33020251902.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.27424c4dO0uWdy "usb-c version" seems to be working good. Provides the full 5 Amps just like the one that came in the box with the phone. I even got the baseus red 2m usb-c cables. I'm not sure if its a fluke or if there any good at all.
I Do Not Know if it will be just as good but, I just ordered the cheaper version https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32970589225.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.a30b4c4d1oAVXd without the display usb-c version which I won't see for another two months due to shipping. Unless its being shipped by ePacket which only takes a week or two to get the item. Also got the same charger https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33042906407.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.27424c4d0fTcdC from a different vendor
I did however ordered the car charger originally for the oneplus 7 pro thinking it was going to charge that sucker up very fast but it didn't and i wasn't going to spend over 50 bucks for a car charger
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Edit From My Post Below. As I looked more into this, my wall charger that came with my phone is just a small 25w box EP-TA800 which I don't understand why accubattery says its getting 5,000+ mAh from it but needless to say the baseus car charger below is able to supply the 25w means while my Anker charger doesn't https://www.amazon.ca/Anker-Charger...rger&qid=1575374418&smid=AREE309N4XPXI&sr=8-5 . It looks like I need a new cable to make this 45w thing to work, if it even works with baseus. but still better then the pixel 2 xl 16.3W charging speed. But even if one where able to achieve 45w charging speeds. It would only be good for the first %50 the rest cuts down in speed.
The Baseus 45W Quick Charge 4.0 3.0 USB Car Charger For iPhone Xiaomi mi Huawei QC4.0 QC3.0 QC PD 6A Fast Charging Car Phone Charger from https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33020251902.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.27424c4dO0uWdy "usb-c version" seems to be working good. Provides the full 5 Amps just like the one that came in the box with the phone. I even got the baseus red 2m usb-c cables. I'm not sure if its a fluke or if there any good at all.
I Do Not Know if it will be just as good but, I just ordered the cheaper version https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32970589225.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.a30b4c4d1oAVXd without the display usb-c version which I won't see for another two months due to shipping. Unless its being shipped by ePacket which only takes a week or two to get the item. Also got the same charger https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33042906407.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.27424c4d0fTcdC from a different vendor
I did however ordered the car charger originally for the oneplus 7 pro thinking it was going to charge that sucker up very fast but it didn't and i wasn't going to spend over 50 bucks for a car charger
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I actually got it too from ebay and can confirm it works just like the original charger, I think it might be actually charging up to 45w.
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It seems to achieve the 15 / 20 volts, I'll need to be on a 24 volt system. I'll have to wait has my battery on my phone is only 54%
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It seems to achieve the 15 / 20 volts, I'll need to be on a 24 volt system. I'll have to wait has my battery on my phone is only 54%
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The charger said 26.2V, 9.32V and, 2.75A and its able to support 15V at 3A and 20V at 2.25
Supplying 24V to the Baseus car charger, it only supplied 9.32V X 2.75A = 25.63Watts which is about the same just using 12V
My current cable only supports PD 2.0 60W, 3 Amps
The 100W cable says it can do PD 2.0 with Gen2 https://www.aliexpress.com/item/329...chweb0_0,searchweb201602_6,searchweb201603_52
Not all cables are the same. But i'm calling this as a good 25Watt charger with cable combo just untill it burns out
Its pretty crazy that Samsung chose the latest PD 3.0 variant with PPS, requiring the odd 10V at 4.5A. Clever heat management, but until now I came up empty finding the exact supporting charger other than the Samsung original who also seems to have its challenges. This article is pretty clear https://www.gsmarena.com/dont_just_..._for_the_samsung_galaxy_note10-news-38837.php
Not that I really would want such a fast charger to become my daily driver, fearing added wear on the battery, but for the rare occasion where I really need juice and do not have a powerbank handy, following if the community finds any solution.