[Q] Questions about Moto 360 watch - Moto 360

So AT&T has a promotion right now, if I get the Nexus 6, I can get $100 off of this watch. I have wanted a smart watch for a while, but was leaning more towards the Samsung series (smaller version sorry don't remember the exact name lol). However to be able to get this watch with more features for the same price, I may be getting it instead. That being said I have a few questions.
I am currently a fitbit wearer, I have the cheapest version without a watch etc. I love my fitbit because it tracks my steps and I am able to plug in my workout info into the Android app on my S5. Does this watch come with a pedometer? I saw a thread about an app called "cinch" that can be used with the watch to track heart rate etc. That seems cool too. Just wondering if there's anything built in like the Samsung watches have.
What band do you suggest? I am a female with very tiny wrists and hands. My fitbit is the smaller band set on the second to smallest setting. I tried on the black leather band on display at AT&T last week, and it seemed to fit OK.
How is everyone's overall experience with the watch? Does rooting open up a lot of other features like it does with the phones?
Also how well does the watch sync with your phone?
I just figured I'd put some questions out there, it seems like the reps at AT&T are hit or miss... some know a lot of info on stuff and others are clueless. Plus they want a sale...

rachelm920 said:
So AT&T has a promotion right now, if I get the Nexus 6, I can get $100 off of this watch. I have wanted a smart watch for a while, but was leaning more towards the Samsung series (smaller version sorry don't remember the exact name lol). However to be able to get this watch with more features for the same price, I may be getting it instead. That being said I have a few questions.
I am currently a fitbit wearer, I have the cheapest version without a watch etc. I love my fitbit because it tracks my steps and I am able to plug in my workout info into the Android app on my S5. Does this watch come with a pedometer? I saw a thread about an app called "cinch" that can be used with the watch to track heart rate etc. That seems cool too. Just wondering if there's anything built in like the Samsung watches have.
What band do you suggest? I am a female with very tiny wrists and hands. My fitbit is the smaller band set on the second to smallest setting. I tried on the black leather band on display at AT&T last week, and it seemed to fit OK.
How is everyone's overall experience with the watch? Does rooting open up a lot of other features like it does with the phones?
Also how well does the watch sync with your phone?
I just figured I'd put some questions out there, it seems like the reps at AT&T are hit or miss... some know a lot of info on stuff and others are clueless. Plus they want a sale...
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The 360 has a built in pedometer and optical heart rate sensor. I'm running it with a Galaxy S5 and carry a fitbit zip so to be honest, I have the 360 set to not provide me info from its built in sensors. Between the fitbit which I have synced to my MyFitnessPal app, my phone's pedometer, and the 360's, I got tired of seeing 3 different step counts so I decided to use the fitbit as my primary step counter and don't use the others but they're there on the 360.
I wear my watch pretty much every day but for times I'm planning to do physical activity - exercise, yard work, helping a friend move, etc. I usually fall back to a Casio sport watch. I love the 360 - still pretty novel and allows me to keep my phone in my pocket most of the day at work but I'm still too afraid I might break it if I put it through the rigors I put my traditional watches through. There's a long thread in the forum dealing specifically with aftermarket watch bands. It seems like a few more options are popping up for men - I don't know about women's sizes.
My phone is usually rooted but I haven't jumped into it on the 360. Anything that requires device disassembly to root is usually past my threshold for that kind of thing. Doesn't look like there's been a lot of dev just yet anyway.
Watch syncs seamlessly with my GS5. No problems to speak of. I often walk away from my phone and I have "Find My Phone" installed which gives me a notification when I leave it behind. Coming back into range, it re-pairs itself almost instantly. A few glitches have shown up for folks after OTA updates that might require you to have to re-sync. For me, since picking up the watch in December, we're talking about having to do that once - after my GS5 took Lollipop.
All in all regarding style, it's my daily "office and out" watch of choice. Regarding functionality, it's more novel than functional - at least for me. Regarding durability, I haven't really pushed it - it is after all a $250 watch. I would absolutely buy one again.
Hope this helps.

Thank you it does. I did a quick search on Amazon for bands and see some out there that are more feminine, but they do look cheaply made. Not sure I want to pair a cheap band with a $250 watch LOL. I might just get the black leather for now, and if something else comes along that I like (i.e. green!) I'll purchase it down the road. I'm looking to replace the fitbit with the watch (I wonder if they'll take it in on trade LOL) I work in an office so I'm not concerned with damaging it.

rachelm920 said:
Thank you it does. I did a quick search on Amazon for bands and see some out there that are more feminine, but they do look cheaply made. Not sure I want to pair a cheap band with a $250 watch LOL. I might just get the black leather for now, and if something else comes along that I like (i.e. green!) I'll purchase it down the road. I'm looking to replace the fitbit with the watch (I wonder if they'll take it in on trade LOL) I work in an office so I'm not concerned with damaging it.
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Dodocase makes a leather band specifically for the moto 360. Comes in several colors. I believe green is one of the colors. They are expensive but the leather looks nice. Just search Google for them. I believe moto may even have them on their website.
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The green one is very nice I could only find it on moto's site, dodcase's website only had cell phone & tablet cases. They also have a thinner metal band that looks more feminine on their site available if you order the watch directly through them. IDK if it'll be available at the AT&T store though. Guess I'll find out tomorrow or Sunday when I go in! Thank you for all your help!!

Best Buy also has the slim metal bands but that doesn't really help you with the At&T promotion unless they will match it.

i need help urgently guys
i am looking forward to buy moto 360 (used one)
but since its my second android wearable after samsung gear fit
can anyone help me with few questions ?
#1 how to check online waranty status of it
#2 he doesn't have the bill (getting for half price of new one) ..how to check whether its indian purchased or global ?
#3 how to examine the watch ? like in cell phones we the screws.. what about moto 360 ?
please reply soon

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Debating a Moto360...

First time I have considered Android Wear. Is this watch worth the $250? Should I look into other any other watches? This seems to be the most reliable watch from what I read and more covered in the dev community.
I randomly jumped the gun. I just went to best buy and remembered that moto 360 was quite a seller. So I just bought one since I have 14 days to return. After almost 2 days, I actually like it. I did update my 360 but battery life to me isn't that good... Might be cause I was constantly on it though. I use Google a lot so it's convenient to me. Don't know what else to tell you, it's all personal preference
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I love mine, but I would caution one thing:
If you're fine with a leather band, go for it.
If you want a metal band, I would wait for the official metal band and not use a third party watch band.
vansmack said:
I love mine, but I would caution one thing:
If you're fine with a leather band, go for it.
If you want a metal band, I would wait for the official metal band and not use a third party watch band.
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Leather should be okay if the leather is good quality. Does the official metal band come with the 2nd gen Moto360?
agentfazexx said:
Does the official metal band come with the 2nd gen Moto360?
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There will be an official metal band sometime in November for the first Gen Moto 360.
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There will be an official metal band sometime in November for the first Gen Moto 360.
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Is it worth the $250 from a geek standpoint? Will the new toy buzz wear off quick? I do use Google apps frequently but will this watch make me end up using my phone anyway? Just trying to justify $250 for a watch.
I enjoy looking at my watch when I get notifications. Keeps me updated quickly rather than looking at my phone. I like the GPS notification, tells me my next direction on my watch. The apps made me like my watch more (mini launcher, pixtocam, 2048, keep, music, reddit, and wear speaker). I merge my sms with my Google hangout so that I can reply with voice on my watch. when you click the Regular samsung messenger app it just opens the app but that requires unlocking the phone before it opens.
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agentfazexx said:
Just trying to justify $250 for a watch.
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The decision is for you to make and nobody could help you out of that!
vansmack said:
I love mine, but I would caution one thing:
If you're fine with a leather band, go for it.
If you want a metal band, I would wait for the official metal band and not use a third party watch band.
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Seems like silly advice. Plenty of people have had luck with third-party bands that cost a small fraction of the ridiculous price Motorola is going to charge for the official one (which no one has yet, so how do you know it will be any better for you?)
thebobmannh said:
Seems like silly advice. Plenty of people have had luck with third-party bands that cost a small fraction of the ridiculous price Motorola is going to charge for the official one (which no one has yet, so how do you know it will be any better for you?)
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Well, I've got 3 cracks on the back of the watch that Motorola will not replace because I changed the watchband. So your mileage (and advice) may vary....
And for clarity purposes, the 360 with the metal band will retail for $299, and the band will be sold separately for $79.99. They announced this and showed it off at launch.
This photo will demonstrate why they recommended waiting:
http://www.androidcentral.com/heres-deal-steel-bands-new-moto-360
That steel band puts no pressure on the underside.
vansmack said:
Well, I've got 3 cracks on the back of the watch that Motorola will not replace because I changed the watchband. So your mileage (and advice) may vary....
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Is the watchband the cause of the cracks? Sorry, I haven't been keeping up with all of the "cracked back" threads. I was just saying it's not been released / seen in person. If your recommendation was because of the cracking / warranty issue, then I take back my ridiculing of it.
And for clarity purposes, the 360 with the metal band will retail for $299, and the band will be sold separately for $79.99. They announced this and showed it off at launch.
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I saw the press release. THat's a ridiculous price markup for a band, and my point was it hadn't been released. You're recommending something you've only ever seen in pictures.
This photo will demonstrate why they recommended waiting:
http://www.androidcentral.com/heres-deal-steel-bands-new-moto-360
That steel band puts no pressure on the underside.
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The point of contact for all bands is the pins, I fail to see how the shape / design of the band would make any difference, but I'm willing to be wrong.
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Is the watchband the cause of the cracks? Sorry, I haven't been keeping up with all of the "cracked back" threads. I was just saying it's not been released / seen in person. If your recommendation was because of the cracking / warranty issue, then I take back my ridiculing of it.
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There are folks who are experiencing cracks who have not switched bands and their return experience has been mixed. The poll elsewhere in this forum seems to suggest that those with steel bands (and skinny wrists) seem to be having the most problems with the back of the watch.
However, Moto is now starting to send emails that say if you switch bands, they will not honor your return request.
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I saw the press release. THat's a ridiculous price markup for a band, and my point was it hadn't been released. You're recommending something you've only ever seen in pictures.
The point of contact for all bands is the pins, I fail to see how the shape / design of the band would make any difference, but I'm willing to be wrong.
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I simply recommended he wait if he wanted a steel band, It wasn't based on price or aesthetics - simply the warranty issue.
The difference in the Moto band and most other steel bands, is the pressure that the end of the band puts on the plastic lip that protrudes on the back of the watch. The Moto band's first flexible joint is outside of the circular watch, and thus puts no pressure on the plastic back. The first flexible joint of the pebble steel is directly under the plastic lip and may be the cause of some of the reported cracking.
Just out of curiosity.... how does Moto know if you replaced the band? I mean, if you send it in for warranty, coudln't you just put the stock band back on?
Thanks for all the info though. Interesting stuff.

For those curious about that plastic insert on metal banded 360s...

When I saw the plastic inserts on the metal band Moto 360, I got excited because I thought Moto had finally rectified the issue with the potential cracking back. I was hoping/assuming that it would be a softer plastic insert to absorb some of the pressure put on it by the metal band. Well, if you take a look at the attached pics, you will see that, unfortunately, I was wrong. The plastic is VERY brittle. I was wearing the watch when I tilted my wrist reaching for something and heard a snap/pop sound. I thought for sure the back just cracked, but it had not. Instead the part of the plastic insert that sits between the band and the back completely snapped off. Now, (it's kind of hard to tell but) it looks like the metal is now pushing up against the back. It's obvious that metal beats plastic as evidenced by the fate of the insert. So I'd imagine it's only a very short matter of time before the back cracks. Oh, and this happened LESS THAN 24 HOURS after purchasing the watch. I'm wondering if maybe the insert may have been slightly cracked to begin with because the other one seems fine. Also, this is already my SECOND metal 360, as the first had what was either a tiny bubble or some sort of reflective debris under the screen.
Has anybody else had this issue with the inserts? I'm wondering if I should exchange it, or just get a refund and wait for the 2nd gen Moto 360. Other than this issue, I REALLY LOVE this watch, which is why I'm struggling with returning it.
FULL DISCLOSURE: I do have tiny, girly-man wrists, and I wear the watch somewhat loose as I like to wear my watches lower on my wrist (closer to my hand, pretty much resting on it).
Pictures:
1) Pic of broken insert
2) Pic of other side still intact
3) Profile shot to see the difference when hanging. Can see the broken side resting against the back.
charesa39 said:
When I saw the plastic inserts on the metal band Moto 360, I got excited because I thought Moto had finally rectified the issue with the potential cracking back. I was hoping/assuming that it would be a softer plastic insert to absorb some of the pressure put on it by the metal band. Well, if you take a look at the attached pics, you will see that, unfortunately, I was wrong. The plastic is VERY brittle. I was wearing the watch when I tilted my wrist reaching for something and heard a snap/pop sound. I thought for sure the back just cracked, but it had not. Instead the part of the plastic insert that sits between the band and the back completely snapped off. Now, (it's kind of hard to tell but) it looks like the metal is now pushing up against the back. It's obvious that metal beats plastic as evidenced by the fate of the insert. So I'd imagine it's only a very short matter of time before the back cracks. Oh, and this happened LESS THAN 24 HOURS after purchasing the watch. I'm wondering if maybe the insert may have been slightly cracked to begin with because the other one seems fine. Also, this is already my SECOND metal 360, as the first had what was either a tiny bubble or some sort of reflective debris under the screen.
Has anybody else had this issue with the inserts? I'm wondering if I should exchange it, or just get a refund and wait for the 2nd gen Moto 360. Other than this issue, I REALLY LOVE this watch, which is why I'm struggling with returning it.
FULL DISCLOSURE: I do have tiny, girly-man wrists, and I wear the watch somewhat loose as I like to wear my watches lower on my wrist (closer to my hand, pretty much resting on it).
Pictures:
1) Pic of broken insert
2) Pic of other side still intact
3) Profile shot to see the difference when hanging. Can see the broken side resting against the back.
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Wow... Just wow is all I have to say.
Premium materials. Hyped for ever.
Think I'm just gonna stick with my leather for now and remember this going forward.
charesa39 said:
When I saw the plastic inserts on the metal band Moto 360, I got excited because I thought Moto had finally rectified the issue with the potential cracking back. I was hoping/assuming that it would be a softer plastic insert to absorb some of the pressure put on it by the metal band. Well, if you take a look at the attached pics, you will see that, unfortunately, I was wrong. The plastic is VERY brittle. I was wearing the watch when I tilted my wrist reaching for something and heard a snap/pop sound. I thought for sure the back just cracked, but it had not. Instead the part of the plastic insert that sits between the band and the back completely snapped off. Now, (it's kind of hard to tell but) it looks like the metal is now pushing up against the back. It's obvious that metal beats plastic as evidenced by the fate of the insert. So I'd imagine it's only a very short matter of time before the back cracks. Oh, and this happened LESS THAN 24 HOURS after purchasing the watch. I'm wondering if maybe the insert may have been slightly cracked to begin with because the other one seems fine. Also, this is already my SECOND metal 360, as the first had what was either a tiny bubble or some sort of reflective debris under the screen.
Has anybody else had this issue with the inserts? I'm wondering if I should exchange it, or just get a refund and wait for the 2nd gen Moto 360. Other than this issue, I REALLY LOVE this watch, which is why I'm struggling with returning it.
FULL DISCLOSURE: I do have tiny, girly-man wrists, and I wear the watch somewhat loose as I like to wear my watches lower on my wrist (closer to my hand, pretty much resting on it).
Pictures:
1) Pic of broken insert
2) Pic of other side still intact
3) Profile shot to see the difference when hanging. Can see the broken side resting against the back.
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Mine just snapped, same thing. No way in * am i going to send this back and wait four months for a replacement that will most likely have dead pixels or other issues after the h**l ive been through getting this one shipped to me from them the first time and all the cracked backs for other people with OEM bands that are leather. If they refuse to send me replacement plastic links at no cost free expedited shipping I'm going to file every consumer fraud report on them that exists after the bs they are putting me and others through with the nexus 6.
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Ryan: Hi, my name is Ryan. How may I help you?
Gary: Hi My name is Gary, My email is ************@gmail.com, I just spoke to a representative Eddie over at moto maker online chat support, reference number 141129-015287. I have a 22mm natural steel moto360(Serial #P0******GX) that I have had for less then a week. Before this version I had the horween leather version bought from best buy, I returned the leather version within 14 days because the back of the watch cracked from the leather strap putting pressure on the plastic back(Sic design flaw). I ordered the 22mm natural steel band version from you directly online at your site with moto care insurance. Today the plastic link that you added between the 22mm steel watch band and the watch body to correct said design flaw snapped on one side -- this IS a user serviceable part, when you purchase the 22mm natural steel watch band for $80 seperately it comes with this tiny plastic peice, and users are able to get new metal links sent to them when requested as well which are much harder to put on yet are STILL user serviceable parts. Well, Eddie insured me I could have a replacement plastic link protector peice sent to me and gave me this number to call to speak to the moto360 specialists: 866-320-4780 Well I called them, I spoke to jose who told me that I would have to return the watch and wait two weeks for a full replacement, this is absurd, there's not a damn thing wrong with the watch or watch band, I demanded to speak to the manager, and Jose hung up on me. I'm not returning my watch and going without it for two weeks after the hell ive been through just to get a tiny plastic peice worth less than a penny -- if that's the case I'll just wait until the back of the watch completely snaps or smash it myself because you guys created a faulty design and then motorola is out more money not me as they will have to replace it no questions asked. If there's some other resolution here I would be glad to hear about it as would everyone else with this problem over on xda and the other android forums who I will be reporting to with our chat transcript, any support is appreciated.
Gary: See this link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/mot...nsert-metal-banded-360s-t2953580#post57120023
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Ryan: This is for repair?
Gary: Yes.
Ryan: I do apologize for that.
Ryan: Let me transfer you to right department, is that okay?
Gary: It seems like alot of time and trouble to go through to get the tiny plastic user servicable part.. you know? Thank you. That would be very appreciated.
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Mak: Hi, my name is Mak. How may I help you?
Gary: Hi Mak, I'm not sure if you can, I hope so! Are you able to see the previous chat transcripts?
Gary: Let me say ahead of time I'm in a real bad mood after dealing with some of the phone support guys at moto, so please don't take it personally.
Mak: I understand you with that.
Mak: Yes I can see the previous chat transcript.
Mak: Please give me a minute to read it first.
Gary: If this isn't a user servicable part you guys can send out -- you really have to make it one.
Gary: the watch band is supposed to be user changable.. it's just a tiny plastic peice that slips over the band when you attach the band.
Gary: They added it to prevent the problems that were happening with the backs cracking on the leather versions.
Mak: Will this for the Moto 360 device?
Gary: Yeah exactly. the 22mm natural steel moto360
Gary: In this link there are photos of the peice: http://forum.xda-developers.com/mot...nsert-metal-banded-360s-t2953580#post57120023
Gary: there's alot of people that are popping up on the various android forums that are having this issue.
Mak: In this case sir since you have reached the Technical support for Android phones, I have to give you a call and transfer you over to our Moto 360 department.
Gary: Would it be possible to get the number for the moto360 specialists? was it the correct number before?
Gary: It seems silly that they want to spend the time and employee resources instead of sending me the tiny plastic peice that's worth less then a penny
Gary: they don't have them to spare with the nexus 6 stuff going on
Mak: Sure. Please give me one minute.
Mak: Here is the number that you can call 8663204780.
Gary: That's a bummer, that's the number I called previously..
Gary: Is there a way you could escalate this to some one in charge of moto360 returns and repairs? they really need to be made aware of this issue
Gary: if we are allowed to change watch bands ourselves.. and this plastic peice is a part of the band.. it seems it should be a user servicable part
Mak: Yes. I will and I will let our higher management know about this as well.
Gary: Thank You Mak.
Gary: I really appreciate that
Mak: You are very much welcome.
Mak: Will there be anything else?
Gary: I'll try again with the moto360 phone support. Have a good holiday season mak
Mak: Happy holiday as well Sir.
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So i'm just going to wear it until the back snaps, then take a sledgehammer to it and send it back to them in peices in an envelope for return.
I'll continue to do this until they fix the user support problems, eventually they will get tired of me costing them money on watches.
I just want to add, that after being passed around alot more online chat support people who were "in the wrong department to assist me" and being hung up on a few times I finally found my way to the moto360 forum on motorola.com's official website.
I posted my problem there and I was actually able to get some real help from people that knew what I was talking about, and it seems like this issue is going to be passed up the food chain so that hopefully I and others in the future who break this plastic protector peice do not have to do a full rma return procedure.
Nothing has come of it yet, but it sounds promising, I will update when further progress is made.
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I just want to add, that after being passed around alot more online chat support people who were "in the wrong department to assist me" and being hung up on a few times I finally found my way to the moto360 forum on motorola.com's official website.
I posted my problem there and I was actually able to get some real help from people that knew what I was talking about, and it seems like this issue is going to be passed up the food chain so that hopefully I and others in the future who break this plastic protector peice do not have to do a full rma return procedure.
Nothing has come of it yet, but it sounds promising, I will update when further progress is made.
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Yeah. I decided to return mine and not even bother with an exchange. I don't want to have to worry about RMAing it every month for a cracked back, especially since it appears to be a lottery on whether you get a good unit or not. Since I LOVED having an Android Wear device, I knew I'd miss having one. So I lucked out and picked up a LG G Watch for $80 + a $50 Google Play credit from Best Buy yesterday (so probably cost me like $40 after selling the code for like $40). Yeah, it's not as pretty as the Moto 360 is, but that price was too good to pass up. Hopefully, it should get me by until they fix the issue or come out with the 2nd gen 360. Having notifications at a glance is so much more convenient than I ever thought it would be. Good luck to you and everyone waiting for them to rectify the issue. I really do hope Moto get their act together for you guys.
My watch had the black plastic piece break as well after two weeks. Of course it happened after the two week best buy return period. The black piece is still installed, just had a few pieces break off. I figure I'll wait a week or two for a Motorola response.
I'm on my 2nd watch. Bought it from BestBuy and got the 2 year replacement too. They took the first one back because of the cracked back. It was a full semicircle from each side of the band. I googled a bit and found Moto saying its a warranty issue for cracking backs. I'm extra cautious now with mine. Even if its not an issue and no one ever sees it, I know the crack is there. I have about 21 months still of replacements from BestBuy. My bet is that a new model will be out within 2 years and eventually I'll get store credit towards a new one.
One of my little black spacers just cracked too. Only been wearing the watch since Christmas. Any updates on the people just trying to get this one piece replaced?
Ill have to try to contact moto when I get off of work today.
I received my 360 for Christmas from my wife (silver metal band)...the day after Christmas, I felt something poking my wrist while wearing the watch...one of the black spacers was cracked and had a sharp point on it.
I had tried going the route of chat help and calling the support number...
Every rep I spoke to (about 5) was telling me that they do not make these spacers for individual replacement. I would have to send my watch in to have it repaired...or I could purchase a new band and it would come with the new spacers. I told them that this was absolutely unacceptable to me.
...I went to Twitter and asked for help with this issue...that afternoon I received a response from them asking for my name and information. I was told that someone would be in touch with me soon (which I was expecting the run around again). To my surprise, when I came home from work the next day...there was a fedex envelope for me containing 4 spacers.
Needless to say, the sharp piece ended up falling off but the band still feels pretty solid. I have opted to hold off on replacing it until I actually need one, but I'm grateful that they were able to replace it (and send me a few extras just in case).
Help is out there...just have to go to a public audience to get it
I have questions about the help you get from the Moto chat...one rep was telling me that they do not use any plastic on the metal band version, that I must have purchased a different device or a counterfeit and that I would have to go to a local jeweler for help fixing my watch.
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I received my 360 for Christmas from my wife (silver metal band)...the day after Christmas, I felt something poking my wrist while wearing the watch...one of the black spacers was cracked and had a sharp point on it.
I had tried going the route of chat help and calling the support number...
Every rep I spoke to (about 5) was telling me that they do not make these spacers for individual replacement. I would have to send my watch in to have it repaired...or I could purchase a new band and it would come with the new spacers. I told them that this was absolutely unacceptable to me.
...I went to Twitter and asked for help with this issue...that afternoon I received a response from them asking for my name and information. I was told that someone would be in touch with me soon (which I was expecting the run around again). To my surprise, when I came home from work the next day...there was a fedex envelope for me containing 4 spacers.
Needless to say, the sharp piece ended up falling off but the band still feels pretty solid. I have opted to hold off on replacing it until I actually need one, but I'm grateful that they were able to replace it (and send me a few extras just in case).
Help is out there...just have to go to a public audience to get it
I have questions about the help you get from the Moto chat...one rep was telling me that they do not use any plastic on the metal band version, that I must have purchased a different device or a counterfeit and that I would have to go to a local jeweler for help fixing my watch.
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Glad you got replacements. I'm going to try the twitter route. Which twitter account did you contact? @motorolasupport ?
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Well after reading about all the cracked backs due to the steel bands I have decided on remains with my leather band.
The design of the 360 is fantastic look wise but has an inherently bad flaw due to the position of the band and pin locations. Yes there is a design flaw.
I have had other Moto products, I had a Moto x first generation and very familiar with moto's design flaws. The Moto x had a Kevlar back which cracked and yes mine did crack in around the volume and power buttons.
I guess sometimes beautiful designs don't always work as planned.
I do think Moto has and will improve upon their next generation Moto 360 or design pin attachments that sits tight in the band slot.
If I had the right tools or time I could easily design an attachment that would prevent the steel band from cracking the plastic back.
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If I had the right tools or time I could easily design an attachment that would prevent the steel band from cracking the plastic back.
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Like this https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1183644800/steelconnect-m-adapters-for-moto360-smartwatch
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jarsh92 said:
Glad you got replacements. I'm going to try the twitter route. Which twitter account did you contact? @motorolasupport ?
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Like this https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1183644800/steelconnect-m-adapters-for-moto360-smartwatch
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Thats the one
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Pretty close, although I would prefer if that extension pin would be fixed. I would have also preferred if screws would be used rather than the typical expansion wrist band pins, this would allow for much easier and user friendly customization
Just and update. Going the twitter route worked out well. Received two plastic spacers today priority through FedEx. All I had to really do was send a pic in an email.
I did go ahead and order the m180 from steelconnect for when these spacers break. Might have to get another band as the moto band probably won't look right with it. Will have to wait and see.
Overall I was impressed with the moto support I had through twitter/email.
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I received my 360 for Christmas from my wife (silver metal band)...the day after Christmas, I felt something poking my wrist while wearing the watch...one of the black spacers was cracked and had a sharp point on it.
I had tried going the route of chat help and calling the support number...
Every rep I spoke to (about 5) was telling me that they do not make these spacers for individual replacement. I would have to send my watch in to have it repaired...or I could purchase a new band and it would come with the new spacers. I told them that this was absolutely unacceptable to me.
...I went to Twitter and asked for help with this issue...that afternoon I received a response from them asking for my name and information. I was told that someone would be in touch with me soon (which I was expecting the run around again). To my surprise, when I came home from work the next day...there was a fedex envelope for me containing 4 spacers.
Needless to say, the sharp piece ended up falling off but the band still feels pretty solid. I have opted to hold off on replacing it until I actually need one, but I'm grateful that they were able to replace it (and send me a few extras just in case).
Help is out there...just have to go to a public audience to get it
I have questions about the help you get from the Moto chat...one rep was telling me that they do not use any plastic on the metal band version, that I must have purchased a different device or a counterfeit and that I would have to go to a local jeweler for help fixing my watch.
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Congratulations on getting some help through twitter! What users helped you out in receiving your information?
call this 1-800-734-5870
they are aware. they are sending me a pair and i requested if possible to give me 4pcs and they said yes.
i hope the plastic on my black metal band doesn't give out
since i'm in Canada, i'm not sure i'll receive the same level of support
I guess it pays to have a big wrist. I've had my 360 since September with a bunch of different bands both metal and leather with no cracked back. But, with a big wrist the band leaves the watch perpendicular to the housing and doesn't touch the back.
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FULL DISCLOSURE: I do have tiny, girly-man wrists, and I wear the watch somewhat loose as I like to wear my watches lower on my wrist (closer to my hand, pretty much resting on it).
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If you wear your watch literally on your wrist where your joint moves, then this will be the reason why you were able to break the plastic inserts. By wearing it on my arm, no matter how far I bend my wrist naturally, it doesn't cause any pressure that could break the plastic inserts or the back.
It's likely how you're wearing the watch that's the cause.
deltatux

Help for the first time (pun?) buyer

Hi all,
I've recently come back into the android fold and I'm currently using the Nexus 6P (fantastic phone btw) and now I'm branching out to other android devices.
I've always wanted a smart watch and I feel now is the time to dive in. After a lot of research that's left me with two options and I'm torn between the Moto 360 (46mm) and the Huawei watch. I've read countless reviews and they both have their pro's and con's, such as cost, display, battery, looks, functionality and I've read into the issues surrounding the charging cradles which only makes my decision more difficult.
I'm all for customization and can spend hours on XDA reading and trying tings regarding my phone and android in general which made me take note of in terms of support and activity the Moto 360 has a lot more attention on XDA, I appreciate that this is most likely due to the Moto 360 being more main stream and has been out for longer, not to mention the V1 lead the charge for android wear but user support is very important to me.
At the moment I'm not sure how I feel about the flat tyre which appears to most of the gripes for the 360 however on investigation several watches faces appear to have overcome this issue to some extent and many users after some time appear to have forgotten all about it, plus it does serve some practicality with the ambient display so it's not all bad.
Any thoughts? Pro's and con's? Have you owned both watches or come from the 360?
Hua Wei watch has sapphire crystal. Enough said.
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Sounds like you want moto 360. Both are great. Huawei watch much more nicer and more classy expensive looking. Moto has it in bigger size as well, so if u like bigger watch faces then you need moto.
I personally love my black Huawei. It is worth every penny. I could care less about customization and user support forums. I buy technology to help me save time in my busy life. I don't have time nor the interest to be reinventing android wear on my watch.
Sapphire
sinple said:
Hua Wei watch has sapphire crystal. Enough said.
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Bingo! Can't say enough about the durability of this watch also. Only wish it were more water proof.
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I don't believe the moto has a speaker either.....does it? Plus have you seen the display on the moto in ambient mode? Holy s...! It's completely pixilated. When I'm inside the house,office,mall, anywhere other than outside,the huawei ambient mode is easily visible, and completely crystal clear. No pixelation. The watches are in these ambient modes most of the time,especially if you have tilt to wake off like me. Please watch videos on you tube comparing this ambient mode with the moto.....its so nasty and ghetto looking.
My decision came down to the fact that the Moto 360 had a flat tire. I wanted a fully circular watch. I think the biggest downside to the Huawei Watch is the horrible charging mechanism. It's a pain to work with especially when I have to quickly charge my watch using a portable charger and throw it in my bag.
Hi all,
After much consideration I ended up ordering the 46mm Moto 360. It basically came down to price at the end of the day. The Huawei watch is £329 with the standard leather strap, I was able to order via a discount code a 46mm Moto 360 with a 22mm metal band and a micro Knurl Bezel for £280. Both are added extras above the standard Moto 360.
I may come back to the Huawei watch as I'm still concerned about the flat tyre and pixel density, however given the extras, screen size and the cost I felt it was too good of an option to let go.
Thanks for all the advice above!
redeuxx said:
My decision came down to the fact that the Moto 360 had a flat tire. I wanted a fully circular watch. I think the biggest downside to the Huawei Watch is the horrible charging mechanism. It's a pain to work with especially when I have to quickly charge my watch using a portable charger and throw it in my bag.
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I am surprised about the dislikes of the HW charging mechanism. I own both HW and Gear S2 Classic. I see no advantage or disadvantage of either charging means. I hold the HW just above the dock and it snaps in place - nothing difficult. Even when using a portable charger in my bag, while hardly ever needed though, the HW stays connected to the dock. Same with the Gear S2. It is also easy to put gear on dock as it snaps on, but I am not especially pleased that there are no connector pins. I just don't care....
I haven't checked yet if Gear S2 remains docked in my bag. I think the HW is better locked though.
tinker_tf said:
Hi all,
After much consideration I ended up ordering the 46mm Moto 360. It basically came down to price at the end of the day. The Huawei watch is £329 with the standard leather strap, I was able to order via a discount code a 46mm Moto 360 with a 22mm metal band and a micro Knurl Bezel for £280. Both are added extras above the standard Moto 360.
I may come back to the Huawei watch as I'm still concerned about the flat tyre and pixel density, however given the extras, screen size and the cost I felt it was too good of an option to let go.
Thanks for all the advice above!
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Actually I only paid £289 on Amazon for the black leather strap. I then bought a brown leather, a stainless steel band and mesh band on Amazon, pretty much identical to the originals and spent about £320 in total. Not bad for the watch and 4 straps!
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I got a pretty good price on my Huawei Watch a week ago. I live in EU but ordered from USA. Even with import tax and 2 day delivery it was still cheaper than anything in the rest of the world (and I checked). It ended up costing $427/£290/€390.
I ordered silver with leather band which I am not a fan of but mesh is already on the way. Hopefully it doesn't look too feminine.
I did get stupid USA charger which is useless in Sweden, but I have a converter at home (and it costs anyway like $5) so it's all good.
This is the watch I bought, although mine was cheaper at time. $310 or so, probably some Christmas price cut:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B013LKLIB0?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
I decided to order both!, I ordered the Huawei watch through Amazon at £329 with the metal strap. I felt safer in the knowledge the strap is made for the watch and comes under the same warranty with Amazon, plus Amazon are so good with returns I thought why not?
I haven't played with it too much yet as I am *still* awaiting on the moto 360. They've had the order since the 27th December but they've yet to dispatch it despite the order page saying it's ready to go.
First thoughts are - The presentation on this product is fantastic, it felt like I just bought an expensive piece of kit (technically I did?) The box, the decorating, the presentation was all very well done. It felt like a first class way of putting their device on display and for the first time in a long time, I spent so much time admiring the detail and effort that must of went into making this. However, whilst it is incredibly fancy I couldn't help but feel that once my excitement wore off, that this poor box will go into storage never to be seen and ideally with that in mind, would have liked the box it shipped in to be less deluxe so that the overall watch price would have been reduced.
The watch face feels small, which is odd as I don't even have anything to compare it to, I haven't worn a watch in months and like I said the 360 isn't here, but yet the screen feels small. The watch feels premium, screen is clear and crisp. Battery life seems better then I was expecting but again, I haven't dabbled with it too much just encase I return it.
The charging base seems a pain and could have been done better I feel. Why not have Qi charging? Or at least a decent stand? On that note, why not put that fantastic presentation box I mentioned to use and have that be part of the charging cycle.
The watch appears to be laggy, it doesn't seem fluid between the cards, or getting into the menus. Again I haven't set this watch up or spent that much time getting to know my way round it, plus with it being fairly new firmware updates should iron this out.
Overall I am happy with the watch, the box, the style, the feel and even the screen despite me thinking that it's kinda small. It's a lot of tech under a watch screen which is nothing short of amazing. However the cost of £329 is hard to swallow, I may return it for the leather strap one at £289 or may return it in favour of the 360 (if it ever gets here!)
I have used several watches. The Hauwei does lag some. I notice it more going into settings, it takes a second to open. Sometimes I think I missed a tap, but a second tap makes it go haywire. The hardware is identical to other watches that are smooth as butter, so it has to be a software setting. Perhaps they have the min cpu speed to slow or something. I dunno. It could be ironed out with an update or custom kernel.
The charging dock is kind of a pain compared to others. My LG G Watch has the same setup except the dock had a contoured lip around so it would slide into place with ease. It was also square = easier to align. The circle hauwei, when I dock, I have to semi spin it until it latches in. Even my ZenWatch2 just had a small magnetic clip and would snap on almost automatically.
The Hauwei is small. For me thats great because I am a smaller dude. My LG and Asus were big. The ZenWatch2 was good because of the curved screen. But my friends always called it my iPad Mini Watch.
The Motorola 360 has nice features but lacks a very important one; no speaker. And trust me, it is very important.
Heres why:
A watch is designed to give you personal freedom away from your phone. So I tend to not cling to it as much. It gets left on my desk, couch, charger, etc. When a call comes in... you find yourself scrambling to get to your phone. You typically do not have time to grab it and answer it, without some sort of awkward silence where you answered it from the watch and still in the process of grabbing the watch. Also when I am oncall for work, and in my pool swimming, I can dismiss unimportant emails and grab calls without having to kill myself trying to get out, dry off, and answer it before it goes to VM.
Food for thought. The speaker support was what I was waiting on to upgrade my LG G Watch. If you are going for just a cheap round smart watch, just buy the Moto 360 1st gen. I don't see the difference between them. Still has the flat tire and ****ty battery life.

Should I get a Moto 360 1st Gen?

Hello,
I've seen some reviews but those were when the watch costed 250$ and that was a long time ago. I'm not 100% sold on the smartwatch idea. Could you guys convince me to buy this watch, give me the pros and the cons... The price I have for this watch, refurbished, is around 85$ + 29$ shipping.
Thanks,
Best regards,
Sincerely yours,
Isac
You should pay a bit more and get the 2nd generation. This one is not going to get the update out later this year.
Although I'm happy with mine, battery lasts all day and I like notifications, controlling music and like secure Bluetooth feature to unlock phone.
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I wouldn't buy it. No more updates is already confirmed. The other watches on the market aren't as good. The 2nd gen and sport from motorola are not as good looking but are better. However, Motorola is basically lenovo now and the guy who made some of their best designs (moto x, 1st moto 360) just quit so their quality will go down. If I were you I'd wait for the upcoming watches. The urbane LTE is awesome and far and away the best watch on the market but is godawful ugly. I'd wait for someone to build a watch with a sim card like that so it can replace your phone when needed but look better than that.
I'm really happy with mine, picked it up for £100 (stainless steel version), the battery life isn't brilliant but I pop it on the charger every night anyway. Mainly used for notifications, HRT monitor, and Endomondo.
Leontin2001 said:
Hello,
I've seen some reviews but those were when the watch costed 250$ and that was a long time ago. I'm not 100% sold on the smartwatch idea. Could you guys convince me to buy this watch, give me the pros and the cons... The price I have for this watch, refurbished, is around 85$ + 29$ shipping.
Thanks,
Best regards,
Sincerely yours,
Isac
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I paid just under £80 for mine with the leather strap (didn't fancy the metal strap catching hairs on my wrist or the look). I've got a pebble and thought it'd be handy having them both, with this one for good wear and the pebble for not so good wear. The battery lasts about 16 hours before it drops to 20%, which was a bit of shock after several days with the pebble, to the extent where I thought of returning it but I'm ok with it now. Given what I paid for it, I'm not bothered about the 2nd gen and what it might have, as the gen 1 still looks great and does everything I need it to - such as give me the time, date, weather, notifications, heart rate, play music, along with things I've yet to find out about... I should imagine. Not overly impressed by the colour screen, as its not any clearer than the pebble, but will serve its purpose where the pebble may not look quite right. So, in conclusion, I'd say get it.

who has the watch?

Like the title says, has anyone even preorded and received this watch?
I picked the only one I could find in a Florida bby today, haven’t opened it yet.
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I picked the only one I could find in a Florida bby today, haven’t opened it yet.
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Let me know what you think of it when you get a chance
So far I love the style. Will check battery life today.
Just got mine. I don't understand all the haters. I actually really like this one. Of course no nfc, heart rate or speaker but I never used a watch for them anyways
U Flippin Idiot said:
Just got mine. I don't understand all the haters. I actually really like this one. Of course no nfc, heart rate or speaker but I never used a watch for them anyways
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Exactly my thoughts, it's my daily driver. It's just to good looking to not wear
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Exactly my thoughts, it's my daily driver. It's just to good looking to not wear
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lol I agree .
I bought leather and metal straps for mine and now use this watch whenever I am dressing formally or for events only.
Received this morning from Slovakia, bought on ebay for 150€ New in the box. The Guy seem have many W7 to sell.....
I love the look of this watch. Just to see how is the battery life ? no good review see for this watch
I am a bit late but I received mine today. I am so happy!!!
Haven't ordered yet but yes interested
Miranda
Recently bought such a son. There are no claims for quality. We can easily contact him
Not currently on my list...
Is it worth buying or no?
Nice but bad battery life. Only if you do not want play a lot with the watch.
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Is it worth buying or no?
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The watch is 2 yrs old, and officially discontinued.
I have had this watch since its release, and I really like this watch, still use it, though not as my main watch for one reason I will mention below later. I mainly wear it when am going to events as my other watch is just too casual-looking. I have tried a few different bands with it and it looks great with all of them. Now on to the issues with the watch:
- No heart-rate sensor. Might be a bummer if you want to use it for fitness-tracking.
- No updates anymore, since it's discontinued. Last major OS version update was to Android Oreo.
- BIGGEST PROBLEM: Battery life is extremely short when it is fully on, I am only able to squeeze out just under a day with a single charge. I don't even have any extra apps on it which could be blamed. I do have the always on display enabled all the time though. There is a mode where the 'smart' watch is off, just the analog hands are working, and in that mode it can run for months on a single charge, but that defeats the purpose of a smartwatch for many. Now this is the reason I don't use it as my main watch. My other Huawei watch, much more loaded with apps and with a heart-rate sensor is able to survive 2 days on full charge.
- Analog hands might annoy some people, as it does get in the way when viewing a lot of notifications. I don't use it as my main watch so I am not bothered with it.
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- Oh, and also, it does not have NFC, so no touchless payment in the era when we need it the most.

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