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root & s-off question (M8)

im contemplating buying the at&t m8 tuesday on launch day but im worried since i know it will come locked down tight. rumor has it on android central that s-off will be waiting for us? is this true or no?
if not ill wait for root to buy.

Ya I'm in the same boat. Wanted the s5, but am now here considering the one for the first time because of Knox.
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mike86325 said:
Ya I'm in the same boat. Wanted the s5, but am now here considering the one for the first time because of Knox.
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The s5 was never in the cards with me.

I see no reason that we won't have an exploit available pretty quickly. If nothing else, you can do the official HTC unlock now and wait for S-OFF later so you can cover your tracks.
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The s5 was never in the cards with me.
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Me neither. Until KNOX is either optional or gone altogether, Samsung will never get my business again. I refuse to support a company so openly anti-developer.

EtherealRemnant said:
I see no reason that we won't have an exploit available pretty quickly. If nothing else, you can do the official HTC unlock now and wait for S-OFF later so you can cover your tracks.
Me neither. Until KNOX is either optional or gone altogether, Samsung will never get my business again. I refuse to support a company so openly anti-developer.
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Same about sammy. I vowed id only stick to the nexus line but this m8 looks awesome if it can be rooted.
Hopefully your right and it will be htc dev unlockable from day 1. I doubt it being at&t.

fix-this! said:
Same about sammy. I vowed id only stick to the nexus line but this m8 looks awesome if it can be rooted.
Hopefully your right and it will be htc dev unlockable from day 1. I doubt it being at&t.
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With at&t its hard to tell but the One was HTC Dev unlockable on at&t at launch I thought?
This is why I'm glad I have T-Mobile. Besides the Sony phones (which T-Mobile likely doesn't even ask Sony to lock the bootloader but Sony chooses to do it themselves), T-Mobile is very cool about rooting and custom ROMs. Hell EVERY person at the T-Mobile store we go to has their **** rooted and they have no problem saying it! If an at&t employee did that, guaranteed there would be a job opening.

EtherealRemnant said:
With at&t its hard to tell but the One was HTC Dev unlockable on at&t at launch I thought?
This is why I'm glad I have T-Mobile. Besides the Sony phones (which T-Mobile likely doesn't even ask Sony to lock the bootloader but Sony chooses to do it themselves), T-Mobile is very cool about rooting and custom ROMs. Hell EVERY person at the T-Mobile store we go to has their **** rooted and they have no problem saying it! If an at&t employee did that, guaranteed there would be a job opening.
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Original HTC One bootloader unlock was available on day 1 then vanished. I think there are other exploits. I have unlocked the bootloader of almost every Android device I've ever owned (except my Nexus 7 FHD). I *dont* intend on doing that with my M8 unless and until the promised support and updates doesn't materialize. In the best of all possible worlds, someone will come up with a temporary root method so I can at least run Titanium backup.

Every Qualcomm HTC devices has been S-OFFed, it will certainly be the same for the M8 trust me...

matt95 said:
Every Qualcomm HTC devices has been S-OFFed, it will certainly be the same for the M8 trust me...
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i can confirm s-on

fix-this! said:
rumor has it on android central that s-off will be waiting for us? is this true or no?
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Can I get a link to the rumor?

jaythenut said:
i can confirm s-on
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Are you saying that it won't be S-OFFed? Nahhh

matt95 said:
Are you saying that it won't be S-OFFed? Nahhh
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Well mine is saying s-on

jaythenut said:
Well mine is saying s-on
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Ehm, that's normal... If you don't S-OFF it will say S-ON of course

matt95 said:
Ehm, that's normal... If you don't S-OFF it will say S-ON of course
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Sorry guys, but could someone explain what S-ON and S-OFF mean?
I only have experience unlocking/rooting Nexus devices.

fil676 said:
Sorry guys, but could someone explain what S-ON and S-OFF mean?
I only have experience unlocking/rooting Nexus devices.
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S-On means you can only install "Secure" software. S-OFF, means you can install whatever you want.
If you want roms, you'll want S-OFF.

meest said:
S-On means you can only install "Secure" software. S-OFF, means you can install whatever you want.
If you want roms, you'll want S-OFF.
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Not completely correct, if you want ROMs you just need an unlocked bootloader and a recovery which you can get without S-OFF too...
S-OFF (Security-OFF) = much more control of the entire phone (you can do pretty much everything if you're able to do it)
if you have enough time to spend then read this perfect in depth explanation

matt95 said:
Not completely correct, if you want ROMs you just need an unlocked bootloader and a recovery which you can get without S-OFF too...
S-OFF (Security-OFF) = much more control of the entire phone (you can do pretty much everything if you're able to do it)
if you have enough time to spend then read this perfect in depth explanation
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Which version of hboot is the verizon m8 shipping with? Assuming we can get root (if it's not already possible), s-off should work with firewater

skaforey said:
Which version of hboot is the verizon m8 shipping with? Assuming we can get root (if it's not already possible), s-off should work with firewater
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I've never tried Firewater stuff but I would wait to do that, that method hasn't even been tested on the new one...

skaforey said:
Which version of hboot is the verizon m8 shipping with? Assuming we can get root (if it's not already possible), s-off should work with firewater
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HBOOT: 3.16.0.0000
I tried the temp-root method but it failed running temp-root so I didn't bother executing the firewater command:
error in setsockopt().
Failed to get prepare_kernel_cred address.
Failed to get commit_creds address.
Failed to get ptmx_fops address.
Failed to setup variables.​

jaythenut said:
i can confirm s-on
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Alright bud
Did you swap out your N3 for this? - I pick mine up in the morning. Hoping it'll be a a quality device, miss my original One

Any new S-Off way yet?

Is there a new way to achieve S-Off ? I tried Firewater but I get the message that HTC has blocked that way of getting s-Off I guess cause my phone was updated.

Andr3w151 said:
Is there a new way to achieve S-Off ? I tried Firewater but I get the message that HTC has blocked that way of getting s-Off I guess cause my phone was updated.
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yeah its called sunshine something. just google sunshine s off . oh its also 25 bucks

Yes. Sunshine. It is$25
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Andr3w151 said:
Is there a new way to achieve S-Off ? I tried Firewater but I get the message that HTC has blocked that way of getting s-Off I guess cause my phone was updated.
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sunshine.. but its for 25$ http://theroot.ninja/

Ok thanks, $25 isn't bad at all I'm surprised cause all my other phones I've ever did S-Off on the software was free but I don't mind supporting the developers, they deserve it. Thanks again

Andr3w151 said:
Ok thanks, $25 isn't bad at all I'm surprised cause all my other phones I've ever did S-Off on the software was free but I don't mind supporting the developers, they deserve it. Thanks again
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It is better to give 25$ to unlock everything rather than to pay some guy who only sim unlocks it.

Jyotirdeb said:
It is better to give 25$ to unlock everything rather than to pay some guy who only sim unlocks it.
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Yeah I agree and it's the least I could since I'm always flashing a Rom or mod that someone makes and doesn't charge, so I always like to give back to this community of developers. This community has always been there for me thru every phone I've had, and the people that use it always help each other out. Can't wait till payday cause it's the first thing I'm doing with my paycheck lol

On http://theroot.ninja/ i downloaded the APK, im going to have to install a stock rom due to it says it wont work on insert coins rom, but a quick question before i do any of that when does it ask me to donate the $25 ? after it runs its test to make sure it works and also what kind of payments do they accept? if anyone knows thanks in advance everyone!

I was patient and didnt unlock via htcdev, i waitied until sunshine and used towelroot v3 and sunshie together and couldnt be happyer.... no tampered flag, no red text. percetion!

RENEGAD3 said:
I was patient and didnt unlock via htcdev, i waitied until sunshine and used towelroot v3 and sunshie together and couldnt be happyer.... no tampered flag, no red text. percetion!
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Guess you haven't flashed a recovery yet

an0ther said:
Guess you haven't flashed a recovery yet
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Not yet still stock and unrooted haha will flashing a recovery make things turn red and tampered?

RENEGAD3 said:
Not yet still stock and unrooted haha will flashing a recovery make things turn red and tampered?
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Yes, but you can remove them with soff

an0ther said:
Yes, but you can remove them with soff
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Ahh i thought it was the htcdev method that gave you tampered flag and red text as when i used htcdev to unlock my one s a few years ago i got tampered and red text before i flashed custom recovery and gained s off

RENEGAD3 said:
Ahh i thought it was the htcdev method that gave you tampered flag and red text as when i used htcdev to unlock my one s a few years ago i got tampered and red text before i flashed custom recovery and gained s off
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It does the same as One S but with S-Off you can change it.

Droid DNA
Any other way to pay becos m in Nigeria and none of the payment methods seems to work or any oda free unlock bootloader and s-off method for hboot 1.57 and kitkat 4.4.2 on Droid DNA

Yucee said:
Any other way to pay becos m in Nigeria and none of the payment methods seems to work or any oda free unlock bootloader and s-off method for hboot 1.57 and kitkat 4.4.2 on Droid DNA
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This thread hasn't been used for over a year, AND you have a different phone.
FYI this is the HTC One M8 forum !

[Q] Effectiveness of free simunlock procedures.

Hello XDA.
Here's the thing. I have an HTC One M8 from AT&T which I want to unlock, but also I wanna S-OFF it because I like to play (safely) with it making it a developer edition or even a GPE. The thing is I don't wanna spend much money, so it's unlocking (~15 USD) or S-OFF it (25 USD) and then be able to simunlock it for free with two options so far:
Super CID
Universal SIM unlock
I wanna think the best idea is to purchase Sunshine, S-OFF my phone and then try one of those two options. I just need some feedback from someone who has tried them to ensure they're 100% effective and I wont need to end to purchase an unlock code.
Anyway, thanks in advance and best regards.

Nothing is ever a sure thing. And recent hboots have patched the SIM unlock exploit, as well as sunshine s-off. What hboot number?
I'm not personally SIM unlocked. But it seems from the SIM unlock thread, results were fairly positive, at least on older hboot numbers. Again, nothing is every certain; and that goes for the paid methods as well (although most services typically won't charge unless you can unlock).

redpoint73 said:
Nothing is ever a sure thing. And recent hboots have patched the SIM unlock exploit, as well as sunshine s-off. What hboot number?
I'm not personally SIM unlocked. But it seems from the SIM unlock thread, results were fairly positive, at least on older hboot numbers. Again, nothing is every certain; and that goes for the paid methods as well (although most services typically won't charge unless you can unlock).
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Thanks for answer.
My HBOOT version is 3.16.0.0000
Best regards.

alainalemany said:
My HBOOT version is 3.16.0.0000
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That's the original (phone's release) hboot version. So I'd say that sunshine s-off should work; and chances of a successful SIM unlock are very good.

redpoint73 said:
That's the original (phone's release) hboot version. So I'd say that sunshine s-off should work; and chances of a successful SIM unlock are very good.
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Thank you so much. I'll tell you how it goes.

alainalemany said:
Thank you so much. I'll tell you how it goes.
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You're quite welcome; and good luck!

redpoint73 said:
You're quite welcome; and good luck!
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I'd like to thank you again @redpoint73 everything worked just as planned and now I have my HTC unlocked and S-OFFed.

alainalemany said:
I'd like to thank you again @redpoint73 everything worked just as planned and now I have my HTC unlocked and S-OFFed.
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Great to hear. Again, you're very welcome.

Unlocking bootloader without HTC Dev (s-off required)

Linking you all to the thread in the main HTC One M9 section. The script seemed to work fine for mine.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/one-m9/general/how-to-lock-unlock-bootloader-htcdevs-t3092036
Credit to @scotty1223

mtva24 said:
Linking you all to the thread in the main HTC One M9 section. The script seemed to work fine for mine.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/one-m9/general/how-to-lock-unlock-bootloader-htcdevs-t3092036
Credit to @scotty1223
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same command i've been using for everyone's phone i s-off with java card....

how does one achieve s-off for the verizon m9? my gf got the verizon version. I have tmobile. We want to unlock the bootloader and install a custom rom

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how does one achieve s-off for the verizon m9? my gf got the verizon version. I have tmobile. We want to unlock the bootloader and install a custom rom
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T-Mobile can unlock using HTC dev and then run sunshine. Vzw is still waiting for sunshine to update it. Other option for the vzw m9 is send it to someone with a javacard.

I second the above. Mailed mine to somebody with a java card. Fortunately I had the Nexus 6 to hold me over while that was being done. If needed, I am sure you can find somebody in the java card thread.

I am sure this was clarified somewhere, but I read this thread and the one linked;
I have a Verizon M9 with S-Off from a Java card, locked bootloader and no root.
Assuming I root and then do this method, will my data be wiped?

jwshields said:
I am sure this was clarified somewhere, but I read this thread and the one linked;
I have a Verizon M9 with S-Off from a Java card, locked bootloader and no root.
Assuming I root and then do this method, will my data be wiped?
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No it will not. What kind of slacker did your s-off?

dottat said:
No it will not. What kind of slacker did your s-off?
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Hah. I decided I'd do it anyway before I saw your reply.
It was a coworker, and I had only asked for S-Off, rather than the whole deal.

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Hah. I decided I'd do it anyway before I saw your reply.
It was a coworker, and I had only asked for S-Off, rather than the whole deal.
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Friends don't tell friends to just S-OFF....Lol

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Friends don't tell friends to just S-OFF....Lol
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He gets-off

I just purchased this device haven't had a hacked phone in about 2 years. Forgot the process. In what order would one s off , unlock boot loader, and root. Thanks for any help offered.
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polar2792 said:
I just purchased this device haven't had a hacked phone in about 2 years. Forgot the process. In what order would one s off , unlock boot loader, and root. Thanks for any help offered.
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Gotta have a java card to s-off, and I assume you gotta be s-off before you can unlock the bootloader and root. Check out the Java Card thread to find somebody with a java card and send your phone to them, or if they're close enough, meet up with them. Stand up guys, all of them are. Many many multiple success stories from people sending their devices and having it back within the week all ready to flash.. for just the cost of shipping and a donation..

You must be S-OFF to unlock your bootloader.
Please see this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/one-m9/general/how-to-lock-unlock-bootloader-htcdevs-t3092036

S-OFF ? Alternative to "Sun-Shine"

Hi guys...
Is there any way rather than Sun-Shine method to achieve S-OFF on HTC 10?
I have a WWE 10 with .401 ROM
I'v unlocked my 10 through HTC-DEV site and go rooted.
Regards.

komsboy_more said:
Hi guys...
Is there any way rather than Sun-Shine method to achieve S-OFF on HTC 10?
I have a WWE 10 with .401 ROM
I'v unlocked my 10 through HTC-DEV site and go rooted.
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Nope, pretty much the only way these days

You don't need soff if you have a wwe device, it's useful for locked branded 10 to get wwe roms. You can get OTA if you follow captain throwback tutorial
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vegetaleb said:
You don't need soff if you have a wwe device, it's useful for locked branded 10 to get wwe roms. You can get OTA if you follow captain throwback tutorial
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S-OFF is needed if I brick my device and want to downgrade or run lower version of RUU
Thank you.

I remember back in the M7 M8 days using a terminal and root to S-OFF with some other free program
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there is no other method available at this juncture, Java cards havent been "leaked", XTC clip2 hasnt been updated for the 10, and the creators of rumrunner, moonshine, sunshine etc... are the same folks. Good people too. they are currently taking in verizon HTC 10 devices via mail in, as it is the only way for us at this point.

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S-OFF is needed if I brick my device and want to downgrade or run lower version of RUU
Thank you.
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Bricking your device with S-ON ..... that's like impossible ! Software brick yes. Hardware brick will be a hardware failure

Mr Hofs said:
Bricking your device with S-ON ..... that's like impossible ! Software brick yes. Hardware brick will be a hardware failure
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I meant the same thing... Software Brick ... Not hardware Brick!
Thanks

komsboy_more said:
S-OFF is needed if I brick my device and want to downgrade or run lower version of RUU
Thank you.
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S off is not needed for a normal ruu downgrade is not beeded
Pay the 25 its cheap
You paid 700 for it what's another 25

What's WWE?
Is S-OFF only beneficial if you are a developer?

Caskalot said:
What's WWE?
Is S-OFF only beneficial if you are a developer?
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World Wide Edition
No, s-off can be beneficial to anyone whose carriers are bad about releasing firmware updates. But it's not necessary for anyone to have s-off. You just could be a little more limited in your rom options and you can't flash a radio from another region or customize your splash screen (the black screen with white HTC lettering.

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World Wide Edition
No, s-off can be beneficial to anyone whose carriers are bad about releasing firmware updates. But it's not necessary for anyone to have s-off. You just could be a little more limited in your rom options and you can't flash a radio from another region or customize your splash screen (the black screen with white HTC lettering.
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Thanks for the info.
The last time I flashed a ROM was way back when I had my M7 and I've pretty much forgotten how to do it. I'm looking at Leedroid but I can't seem to find instructions on how to root/flash. I'm not allowed to post a link to an external site but if you google "graphic city leedroid" it will show up as the 1st result.

Caskalot said:
What's WWE?
Is S-OFF only beneficial if you are a developer?
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WWE is world wide edition.
If your in the US you should flashed the US unlocked RUU if you want faster updates than a carrier version of the phone.
SOFF means you can flash full firmware and software RUU for any region.
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Thanks for the info.
The last time I flashed a ROM was way back when I had my M7 and I've pretty much forgotten how to do it. I'm looking at Leedroid but I can't seem to find instructions on how to root/flash. I'm not allowed to post a link to an external site but if you google "graphic city leedroid" it will show up as the 1st result.
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There's a video guide in the other section of the forum. I suggest if you choose this route unlock your bootloader at HTC Dev and keep it unlocked.
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Do i need S-off to flash a US unlocked ruu on my tmobile variant. And also can i change the CID without s off... i really do not want to pay 25 dollars and nor do i have any means of paying it. I want the most up to date os and faster updates.

techie4life said:
Do i need S-off to flash a US unlocked ruu on my tmobile variant. And also can i change the CID without s off... i really do not want to pay 25 dollars and nor do i have any means of paying it. I want the most up to date os and faster updates.
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No cid change without s-off. You pay to play on that front.
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techie4life said:
Do i need S-off to flash a US unlocked ruu on my tmobile variant. And also can i change the CID without s off... i really do not want to pay 25 dollars and nor do i have any means of paying it. I want the most up to date os and faster updates.
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You need S off to change cid and to load the US unlocked ruu
$25 well spent

So those of us with Verizon s-on locked bootloaders Verizon CID can only change to soff unlocked bootloader rooted by mail in service right now.... is this correct?
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u4icpain said:
So those of us with Verizon s-on locked bootloaders Verizon CID can only change to soff unlocked bootloader rooted by mail in service right now.... is this correct?
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Yes. I sent my phone in the first of the week and had it back by the end of the week.

PunishedSnake said:
S off is not needed for a normal ruu downgrade is not beeded
Pay the 25 its cheap
You paid 700 for it what's another 25
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25 $ is not my problem.
My problem is payment! I'm in iran and we have no access to paypal or international credit cards!

komsboy_more said:
25 $ is not my problem.
My problem is payment! I'm in iran and we have no access to paypal or international credit cards!
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What can I say, get access