No SMS notifications from inside conversation - AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4

I recently switched from an S4 to a Note 4, and have been missing lots of incoming SMS messages. I realize now that the S4 would beep any time a new message arrived, but the Note 4 suppresses notifications when you're inside the conversation for which a new message arrives. I can kind of see the logic for this - why would one need the phone to beep if you're already on the screen that's showing you the incoming message? In practice, though, I find that I leave the conversation screen open all the time when I'm not looking at the phone.
Most frequently, I keep the phone on a dock at my desk, hooked up to my KVM switch, so I can use my keyboard/mouse to write messages during the day. After sending a message, I switch back to my main computer/monitor and work over there until the phone beeps at me again. I rely on the SMS notifications to grab my attention, but need to explicitly exit the conversation after sending each message now if I want the beep to occur. The same thing happens when I put the phone in my pocket, holster, on the counter, etc. after sending an SMS. I'm sure I'll develop a habit after a while, but it seems foolish to me that I can't just stay in a conversation and have it beep whenever there's activity. This is the only email/IM/SMS app that I have that behaves this way.
I've tried to force the Messages app to beep at me whenever an SMS arrives, but there doesn't appear to be an option for this. Hopefully, I've just overlooked it, so:
QUESTION: Is there a way to configure the Messages app to beep whenever an SMS arrives, even if I'm already inside the conversation for the new message?
I'm using the stock ROM, no root, the default Messages app that comes on the phone, and a built-in notification sound (i.e. not something custom from the external SD card). Vanilla configuration. Thanks for your help.

mcmannion said:
I recently switched from an S4 to a Note 4, and have been missing lots of incoming SMS messages. I realize now that the S4 would beep any time a new message arrived, but the Note 4 suppresses notifications when you're inside the conversation for which a new message arrives. I can kind of see the logic for this - why would one need the phone to beep if you're already on the screen that's showing you the incoming message? In practice, though, I find that I leave the conversation screen open all the time when I'm not looking at the phone.
Most frequently, I keep the phone on a dock at my desk, hooked up to my KVM switch, so I can use my keyboard/mouse to write messages during the day. After sending a message, I switch back to my main computer/monitor and work over there until the phone beeps at me again. I rely on the SMS notifications to grab my attention, but need to explicitly exit the conversation after sending each message now if I want the beep to occur. The same thing happens when I put the phone in my pocket, holster, on the counter, etc. after sending an SMS. I'm sure I'll develop a habit after a while, but it seems foolish to me that I can't just stay in a conversation and have it beep whenever there's activity. This is the only email/IM/SMS app that I have that behaves this way.
I've tried to force the Messages app to beep at me whenever an SMS arrives, but there doesn't appear to be an option for this. Hopefully, I've just overlooked it, so:
QUESTION: Is there a way to configure the Messages app to beep whenever an SMS arrives, even if I'm already inside the conversation for the new message?
I'm using the stock ROM, no root, the default Messages app that comes on the phone, and a built-in notification sound (i.e. not something custom from the external SD card). Vanilla configuration. Thanks for your help.
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In phone app go to settings - call - call alerts . There is option to alert you on notifications. Make sure you have this check.
Clicking from notecable N910A

norbarb said:
In phone app go to settings - call - call alerts . There is option to alert you on notifications. Make sure you have this check.
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Just to clarify, when I say "conversation", I mean that I'm reading an SMS thread inside the Messages app - not having a verbal conversation in the Phone app. Assuming that this is understood...
In the "Call alerts" page, I see several settings. Mine are configured as follows (where "+" is checked, and "-" is unchecked):
CALL VIBRATIONS
+ Vibrate when answered
+ Call-end vibration
CALL STATUS TONES
+ Call connect tone
- Minute Minder
+ Call end tone
ALERTS ON CALL
+ Notify during calls
Under the configuration above, would you expect the Messages app to beep when an SMS arrives on the thread that I'm currently reading?

mcmannion said:
Just to clarify, when I say "conversation", I mean that I'm reading an SMS thread inside the Messages app - not having a verbal conversation in the Phone app. Assuming that this is understood...
In the "Call alerts" page, I see several settings. Mine are configured as follows (where "+" is checked, and "-" is unchecked):
CALL VIBRATIONS
+ Vibrate when answered
+ Call-end vibration
CALL STATUS TONES
+ Call connect tone
- Minute Minder
+ Call end tone
ALERTS ON CALL
+ Notify during calls
Under the configuration above, would you expect the Messages app to beep when an SMS arrives on the thread that I'm currently reading?
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Now i'm not sure. i need to see if in scenario you talking about i have notification, if i do i will explain my settings.
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OK. I have notification. In settings in default messenger i have in notification Notification sound ( choose as you wish)
Vibrate +
Repeat message alert ( I got every 10 Min)
Pop-up display +
Lock Screen +
Status Bar +
What im reading messages i got pop-up with sound on top of message app.
But when im reading message and i get message from same person i don't have sound notification. It must be setup by software this way.

Did you find a fix? Mine does the same thing.

tracisec said:
Did you find a fix? Mine does the same thing.
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I'm still getting the same behavior. Missed several messages yesterday, in fact. This is the first thing I check after every OS update from AT&T, but I guess most people continue to prefer to not be notified when their text messages arrive.

If my screen is on while I'm in a conversation, you're correct, no notification will occur. But if my screen times out (locks) I will get a notification tone. I guess it just assumes you are looking at the screen if it's on and a message comes in.
Not aware of any way to change this.
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jack man said:
I guess it just assumes you are looking at the screen if it's on and a message comes in.
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I think that that's probably the intent. Maybe my habits are different than others', but I'm frequently not looking at the phone when the Messages app is up. Actually, before getting the Note 4 and training myself to switch off of Messages after reading each new text, I predominantly wasn't looking at the screen while Messages was up.
There's probably no one-size-fits-all setting here. It's just too bad that there's not an option to enable/disable audible notifications to fit individual preferences.

Did anyone ever find a way around this? You figure someone would have made an xposed module or something.

What a response.

Your response sounds like We should all be alike and conform.

Text notifications
Try '8sms' ... only text messaging app that I've found that will consistently notify me of incoming texts. Some apps will for a time but then stop doing so. This one has worked well for me.

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sms notification not always sounding

i was wondering if this is normal. i use tf3d and if i stay with in the conversation, if the person sends me a txt back, it does not make its sound notification nor does a notification come up. so is this normal feature that doesnt alert me because i am already in the conversation view or is something wrong with my phone?
yeah, i have the same problem periodically...
Here too. :-(
same here..
I have noticed this occurs when the text message thread is still 'open' on the phone. If you close that particular conversation and go to the 'All Messages' view, the notification will sound.
I believe this is a 'feature' so that the notification does not go off if you are looking at the application waiting for a text.
Doinshots said:
I have noticed this occurs when the text message thread is still 'open' on the phone. If you close that particular conversation and go to the 'All Messages' view, the notification will sound.
I believe this is a 'feature' so that the notification does not go off if you are looking at the application waiting for a text.
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thats what I thought it might be. It reminds me of how IM programs handle replies where you can have the sound disabled if you have a chat window open
I've been trying to figure this out all night. It's been working all alone until today. I hard rest and the problem is still there. I flashed merdinH rom again, same problem. flashed to Energy ROM same problem. Flashed back to merdinH and have working to resolve this all night. Hope someone else has better luck then I've had tonight.
Doinshots said:
I have noticed this occurs when the text message thread is still 'open' on the phone. If you close that particular conversation and go to the 'All Messages' view, the notification will sound.
I believe this is a 'feature' so that the notification does not go off if you are looking at the application waiting for a text.
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Yup, me too. I wonder if there is a registry edit to disable that feature. I want my phone to go off every time there is a message. Sometimes I'm lazy and don't close the conversation out, and just leave my phone in my pocket...next thing you know, 3 missed texts and the person thinks you are ignoring them.
I'm glad this has been brought up. Hope someone comes up with a solution.

HTC Touch Pro2 (T-Mobile) Threaded Massage View

Hi all. I have Touch Pro2 from T-Mobile, my problem what is common, when in threaded view for text messages, it alerts me (by vibrate or an alert sound) when I SEND a message. However, when I receive one it does not. How do I fix this? I want it to notify me with a sound and/or vibrate that I have a new unread message in that threaded view from the contact that I am having a conversation with. PLEASE ask me if you do not fully understand my question, and I would be glad to try to explain it a bit better for you. Thank You people.
Same issue yesterday -
I rebooted the device and sound / notification was back, working as intended.
bdfx69 said:
I rebooted the device and sound / notification was back, working as intended.
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My sound is off %99.1 of the time. I have it set to vibrate usually. I only get notified (with a sound or a vibrate, depends what is on) about the very first message I get. And when I open it, since I have TouchFLO enabled, the messages are in threaded view. And I have no way of knowing I have a new unread message in that conversation unless I look at it. It does not notify you anymore, only that very first time.

text notification while in call?

i just rooted my Evo to 2.2 (thanks Netarchy!!!) and with the updated radio and WiMax... when ever im using the phone and i recieve a text, my text notification will come in as if im not using the phone. what can i do to fix the problem so far i tried everything i can think of
as far as I know, you could have always received texts while in a call.. I know I have...
how is this a problem? and its normal as far as i know.
i dont think the op is talking about how the text comes in while on a call but how when it comes in on froyo whatever sound you have set for a notification plays too
it wasnt like that before.
XmentalX said:
i dont think the op is talking about how the text comes in while on a call but how when it comes in on froyo whatever sound you have set for a notification plays too
it wasnt like that before.
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sorry for the hazy explanation but he's correct. before i rooted to froyo my notification sound was a transformer's notification, and while in call the text would come in as a default notification (titled "little"). now after root everything is set up the same, when i am on a call and a text comes through, the transformer's notification comes in rather the default.
has anyone else notice this phenomenon?
banishedmonk said:
sorry for the hazy explanation but he's correct. before i rooted to froyo my notification sound was a transformer's notification, and while in call the text would come in as a default notification (titled "little"). now after root everything is set up the same, when i am on a call and a text comes through, the transformer's notification comes in rather the default.
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the notification settings are in two different places. you can do the standard menu-settings-sound/notification for default or you can open the messaging app and goto settings/notifications for more customization. each have different options, the one you are talking about is in the messaging app i believe.
I have, it vibrates next to my ear, kinda annoying. just glad i get some kind of notification unlike before
t3project said:
the notification settings are in two different places. you can do the standard menu-settings-sound/notification for default or you can open the messaging app and goto settings/notifications for more customization. each have different options, the one you are talking about is in the messaging app i believe.
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i know about both notifications in the settings/message app. its to the point that i cant even hear what the other person is saying because my text notification comes in when i receive one. never had to worry about that before rooting to froyo.
I don't think it's an issue with rooted vs non rooted. I downloaded froyo on tuesday via update on phone. I have not rooted my copy. If I am on a call, and a text comes in, it plays my text alert music through the ear piece while on my call and I can't hear the person on the phone at all. God help me if it is on speaker phone, it breaks up and such...
menu, settings, sound, volume, uncheck use incoming call volume then slide the notification volume down a bit. Not sure if this will work for you but it seems to have reduced it quite a bit for me.
EXACTLY! wasnt like that before with 2.1 im so happy that im not going crazy about it, any ideas on how to solve it?
anyone with thoughts?
any body???
its become quite annoying, and its definitely a 2.2 vs. 2.1 issue rather than a rooted vs.nonrooted issue, wish i could figure out a way to fix it
theres an app on the market called handcent which solves the problem. downside is that it runs a bit laggy at leas on my phone but better than whats been going on
i use handcent. in the settings, under notification settings, there is an option to notify while in call. i have mine on, because i prefer it. you can disable it, if you wish.
i didn't look through the default messaging app too deeply, because i was getting sick of having dual notifications, so i disabled all of those, and only use handcent's.
whether you would still get notifications in call, without having handcent, is beyond me, only because i'm not going to uninstall handcent and test it. i wish you the best.
alternatively, you could disconnect the phone and notification volumes (menu>settings>sound>general/volume uncheck use ringer volume for notification volume) and slide notification volume all the way down.
if you turn the notification volume down, u wont get any sound while on call or not on a call. how is handcent running for you? in comparison to the default messaging app?
banishedmonk said:
if you turn the notification volume down, u wont get any sound while on call or not on a call. how is handcent running for you? in comparison to the default messaging app?
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handcent is my preferred messaging application. i haven't tried chompsms, but some people like it.
i like the fact that i can customize handcent to look and act like i choose. in conjunction with adfree, i don't have to look at ads either. best of all worlds.

[Q] Disable auto sms on call reject

Hi! I hope this is the right place to ask. It may sound stupid but I just cannot turn off the auto sms feature on HTC Wildfire S. An automated sms is sent while the phone is in the locked state.
It shouldn't do that, but I know when I was using the WFS and I would drag the red dismiss/decline button to the lock ring I would sometimes then have to tap end call. I had voice mail turned off so maybe it was trying to send a message? It didn't seem to use minutes.
Did you know that when the phone is ringing there's a menu that is only available at that time, whether you're locked or unlocked when it rings...just tap the menu button on the bottom and you can mute the ring and let it ring through to voice mail. Curiously this is where I thought one had to go to send the SMS message, which I used to do when I was low on minutes...I set my message to say I was low and please text or email me...still after it sent the SMS I'd have to then tap on end call. Anyway, check what's in that menu, and if it still sends the SMS if you simply select decline from that menu. My other thought would be to press the power button twice to reject the call and see if it still sends the SMS. One last suggestion would be, in call settings, select to edit message before sending and when it wants to send the SMS and opens for editing, maybe cancel it, or set it to send blank if you're worried more about what you're saying than minutes?

[Q] Any way to keep the screen from turning on when an incoming text is received?

I like the stock Messages app for its "favorites bar" and the direct-call motion functionality, but i can't stand that it turns the screen on every time a new message comes in. It is a problem when the phone is in my pocket and a message comes in and the contact between my phone and my leg (even through my pocket!) causes my phone to do things - or at least sit there and make noise as it tries to unlock. I'm using Google's Messenger app for the time being, but i don't like it as much. I think this used to be an option in the Messages app on my Note 2. Any suggestions? Thank you,
--Brandon--

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