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the 4.4.X update - discussion thread

http://www.tmonews.com/2014/02/andr...alaxy-s4-s4-note-3-and-other-samsung-devices/
Today, Samsung announced that it would be pushing out KitKat to a slew of its Android-powered smartphones. Although we’re not precisely sure on specific dates for T-Mobile devices, the 4.4.2 update will be rolling out from today.
Among the list of devices being supported are the Galaxy Note 3, Galaxy S 4 and S 3 as well as others. Full press release below:
DALLAS, February 18, 2014 – Samsung Telecommunications America (Samsung Mobile) announced today that a number of Samsung Galaxy® devices will receive the Android 4.4.2 (KitKat) software update, enriching the Galaxy experience.
The upgrade provides a number of innovative, easy-to-use features that enhance the user experience, including a more intuitive user interface, enhanced messaging capabilities and updated applications:
· Location Menu: An integrated location menu enables users to easily activate GPS, Wi-Fi and mobile networks, while simultaneously checking the battery usage of apps running location service capabilities.
· Enhanced Messaging: Enables users to choose between Messages or Hangouts as their preferred default messaging application, and select from a larger assortment of updated Emoji icons.
· Upgraded Google Mobile Service™ (GMS) apps: Users can automatically back up photos and video and can open, view, rename and share Google Docs and files.
Samsung Galaxy U.S. devices currently scheduled to receive the KitKat update include select carrier variants of the Galaxy Note® 3, Galaxy Note® II, Galaxy S® 4, Galaxy S® 4 mini™, Galaxy S® 4 Active™, Galaxy S® 4 zoom™, Galaxy S® III, Galaxy S® III mini™, Galaxy Mega®, Galaxy Light, Galaxy Note® 8.0, Galaxy Tab® 3, Galaxy Note® 10.1, Galaxy Note® 10.1 2014 Edition.
Availability varies by carrier and product, with updates beginning today and continuing throughout the coming months.
If you have one of the Galaxy devices mentioned in the announcement, be sure to let us know when/if the update lands. T-Mobile isn’t always speedy when it comes to giving the green light to software updates on Android. Let’s hope these start to land pretty snappish.

Nice. going to have to Odin back to stock then.

Still months away
TWEAKED 2.0 NOTE 3

Dattack said:
Nice. going to have to Odin back to stock then.
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Don't update, the bootloader might be locked. It best to wait for a dev to get a hold of the firmware and make it into a flashable rom that doesn't include the bootloader.

marcoxx626 said:
Don't update, the bootloader might be locked. It best to wait for a dev to get a hold of the firmware and make it into a flashable rom that doesn't include the bootloader.
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I am used to waiting to take updates being on VZW and what they did with breaking root with the Bionic and then the S4 fiasco. But why would Tmobile launch a phone with an unlocked bootloader only to lock it after an OTA update? It's one thing to patch an exploit, but to lock an unlocked bootloader when it was meant to launch unlocked I think would be stange. Again, I'm waiting anyway, but I think the phone will stay unlocked.

Not sure how excited I am for 4.4.2
No app ops. I can't believe google would intentionally remove a vital security feature. I guess we'll just have to add it back in

cun7 said:
Not sure how excited I am for 4.4.2
No app ops. I can't believe google would intentionally remove a vital security feature. I guess we'll just have to add it back in
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I agree! In fact, that's the first thing I thought about when I heard about the news.
We do, however, still have xPrivacy, though. I've donated to the developer and hopefully we'll see continued development including, I hope, a more user-friendly system closer to the way App Ops works. (For the record, I'm not knocking xProvacy; rather I'm pointing out that it could be easier to manage for laymen like myself.)

Eric214 said:
I am used to waiting to take updates being on VZW and what they did with breaking root with the Bionic and then the S4 fiasco. But why would Tmobile launch a phone with an unlocked bootloader only to lock it after an OTA update? It's one thing to patch an exploit, but to lock an unlocked bootloader when it was meant to launch unlocked I think would be stange. Again, I'm waiting anyway, but I think the phone will stay unlocked.
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i'm guessing you are right. But you have to remember, it's not TMO that's doing it. It's all part of Sammy Knox initiative to make the phones more secure. If you have an unlocked bootloader, there's no way to say that your product is secure. We've picked apart the last 3 builds /na6/na7/nb3 of kitkat from germany, and there's alot of pointless crap built into these roms that will have to be pulled out to , along with the regular developmental crap that sammy puts in there for "Future Updates" Like fingerprints scanner perms and instructions, radios that will never be used, and something pointing to a backup antennae even though the phone does not have one (that's for the note 10.1)
I think they are being lazy, , making one huge TW Rom and then modifying it for individual devices. If you look at the S4 release and the Note 3 release, they are identical builds minus screen size settings and the addition of spen support.

Any idea when the TMobile update will be available? Sprint customers are getting theirs from today.

Some people from g+ are claiming to get the Sprint updates yesterday. Wonder if someone from TMO got updated too.

There is a complete silence regarding Tmobile update. Even the dog slow at&t has a leaked version out.

Apparently us cellular is getting their update as well.
Here's the link if any one is curious.
http://phandroid.com/2014/02/20/us-cellular-note-3-kitkat/
I hope we're next
posted while using my note 3

I've have been with tmo from the beginning of this computer like smart phone generation, and I will say we are almost always the last to get an update. .. Our wifi calling and wifi alone had a bug for 6 months now no update when other carriers got the fix. .. Just saying. ...
Evertime there's an update these discussions happen. ... When when when. .. sit back relax and flash someone else's rom. ... lol
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Call it eye-Kat. Make it look exactly like iOS and give Apple the finger
Sent from another galaxy

Check this out guys. Got it from comments on this article:
http://www.tmonews.com/2014/02/andr...alaxy-s4-s4-note-3-and-other-samsung-devices/
I'm on a KK custom ROM on my Note 3 so I'm not getting it. Maybe I need to flash back to stock. I'm in TX too btw.

djtheraven said:
I've have been with tmo from the beginning of this computer like smart phone generation, and I will say we are almost always the last to get an update. .. Our wifi calling and wifi alone had a bug for 6 months now no update when other carriers got the fix. .. Just saying. ...
Evertime there's an update these discussions happen. ... When when when. .. sit back relax and flash someone else's rom. ... lol
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IKR, the wifi bug is pissing me off!
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marcoxx626 said:
Don't update, the bootloader might be locked. It best to wait for a dev to get a hold of the firmware and make it into a flashable rom that doesn't include the bootloader.
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Apparently using Mobile Odin you can flash the update with rootkeeper and you keep Knox at 0x0 and get a rooted 4.4.2 (make sure you set it to reboot into download to flash the bootloader)
Details are in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=49502152
I wish T-Mobile would herry the heck up!!!!

dragonstalker said:
i'm guessing you are right. But you have to remember, it's not TMO that's doing it. It's all part of Sammy Knox initiative to make the phones more secure. If you have an unlocked bootloader, there's no way to say that your product is secure. We've picked apart the last 3 builds /na6/na7/nb3 of kitkat from germany, and there's alot of pointless crap built into these roms that will have to be pulled out to , along with the regular developmental crap that sammy puts in there for "Future Updates" Like fingerprints scanner perms and instructions, radios that will never be used, and something pointing to a backup antennae even though the phone does not have one (that's for the note 10.1)
I think they are being lazy, , making one huge TW Rom and then modifying it for individual devices. If you look at the S4 release and the Note 3 release, they are identical builds minus screen size settings and the addition of spen support.
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Yeah i can see where you're coming from. but I still don't think Sammy will lock it down, but we'll see.

TMO is busy now with their "marketing campaign" to attract new customers.. They have no time to do software updates for existing customers
Come on peeps cut them some slack

daraj said:
TMO is busy now with their "marketing campaign" to attract new customers.. They have no time to do software updates for existing customers
Come on peeps cut them some slack
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This is what I was afraid of when switching to TMO. Yeah I save money but at the cost of crappy CS service and very very slow to non-existant updates.
-Sent from my TMO Samsung Galaxy Note 3 using Tapatalk

Kitkat GS3 at&t confirmed

Proof: http://1drv.ms/OJ2Bgr
PS: Read it all:good::good:

Håvi said:
Proof: http://1drv.ms/OJ2Bgr
PS: Read it all:good::good:
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That's already known.. the problem is them keeping the release date (or estimated release date), tight-lipped.

DazTip said:
That's already known.. the problem is them keeping the release date (or estimated release date), tight-lipped.
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Thats just to be sure if it will come:good:

Håvi said:
Thats just to be sure if it will come:good:
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Yeah because it would be the first time they didn't follow through with what they said...

Hopeful
As much as I hope it is released for our phones, a single person who does live chats all day may not be the most rock-solid source. Any number of things could turn out to have happened, from misreading an information sheet before giving you said information to her being just plain wrong.
Thank you for posting this though, it is important that up to date information like that is made public. Its just that I'm not sure if one representative saying it is on its way is a complete confirmation.
Does anyone know how reliable these live chats usually are?

SwaggyDabbyDoo said:
As much as I hope it is released for our phones, a single person who does live chats all day may not be the most rock-solid source. Any number of things could turn out to have happened, from misreading an information sheet before giving you said information to her being just plain wrong.
Thank you for posting this though, it is important that up to date information like that is made public. Its just that I'm not sure if one representative saying it is on its way is a complete confirmation.
Does anyone know how reliable these live chats usually are?
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Not very reliable in this case since they are not allowed to give too much information out to the public. I posted a thread after I talked to one of Samsung's live representatives and they told me that the update would come in a matter of weeks. You can check my thread out if you want.

internethuman said:
Not very reliable in this case since they are not allowed to give too much information out to the public. I posted a thread after I talked to one of Samsung's live representatives and they told me that the update would come in a matter of weeks. You can check my thread out if you want.
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Ah yes I found that thread. Well if it was more than just one confirmation that adds too the legitimacy :good: I don't want to get my hopes up but its looking good!

I'd love for this to be true. I'm holding off on updating to a custom rom in case they push KitKat and it doesn't work after using the stock restore posted.
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My post on the rumor thread
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I was talking with AT&T repair regarding my phone freezing when switching from portrait to landscape since the 4.3 OTA and they told me they were not aware of a fix coming out for this, but that 4.4 will probably come out in a couple months and it may replace whatever is causing the problem. When I went to the Samsung Experience center to let them force the OTA onto my phone again to see if that would fix the issue, that tech said the same thing about 4.4 coming out, but he thought my freeze issue is hardware related.
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AT&T official statement or it didn't happen !

From Official Samsung
Not sure if this is only US versions but this is a list of devices from the official website
www "DOT" samsung "DOT" com/us/support/faq/FAQ00059206/82024/EFC-1G6FFEGSTA[/url] :good:

Deonta23 said:
Not sure if this is only US versions but this is a list of devices from the official website
www "DOT" samsung "DOT" com/us/support/faq/FAQ00059206/82024/EFC-1G6FFEGSTA[/url] :good:
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I just went to change my sim card to one with secure element, and ask guy at At&t store ( is said "manager" on his name tag) about kitkat for S3. He answer
We don't have any specific date, but I heard it should be at mid May.
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Make sense since S5 will be release in April so they can bust sell of S5 before they let us have it KitKat on S3.

Can anyone explain what would be the advantage of an official kk rollout from AT&T?
At this point in time AOSP kk roms are fully functional, no need to hang with an ugly fat chick like touchwiz haha
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I've been using kk with pwncake's Quantum ROM for so long now, that I'm not very inclined to go back to touchwiz either. It's just too late.
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Until there's an official update rolled out, I won't believe it

sgloki77 said:
Can anyone explain what would be the advantage of an official kk rollout from AT&T?
At this point in time AOSP kk roms are fully functional, no need to hang with an ugly fat chick like touchwiz haha
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Kit Kat does bring down memory usage, so if you use or want some of the S applications and features that Touchwiz has, you should see better performance due to released memory.
Theoretically that is, I've been on CM11 nightlies for awhile now.

Some cant work with non stock roms...

sgloki77 said:
Can anyone explain what would be the advantage of an official kk rollout from AT&T?
At this point in time AOSP kk roms are fully functional, no need to hang with an ugly fat chick like touchwiz haha
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xhozt said:
Some cant work with non stock roms...
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Or, like me, simply do prefer them over AOSP ROMs
Anyway, Xposed now fills the gap of what's missing in most cases

Deonta23 said:
Not sure if this is only US versions but this is a list of devices from the official website
www "DOT" samsung "DOT" com/us/support/faq/FAQ00059206/82024/EFC-1G6FFEGSTA[/url] :good:
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There you go !
http://www.samsung.com/us/support/faq/FAQ00059206/82024/EFC-1G6FFEGSTA

Thats nice
Its not really important since most stock TouchWiz roms are total ****, especially those from samsung.

find 7 qhd int 9076

Hi I need to root my phone and install cm but am seeing conflicting info yet some people are running cm. I have flashed gs3 ect before but need to find a safe way. Can someone point me in the right direction.
Also still waiting for my new ad card. Can the band backup be stored to internal memory?

andyb313 said:
Hi I need to root my phone and install cm but am seeing conflicting info yet some people are running cm. I have flashed gs3 ect before but need to find a safe way. Can someone point me in the right direction.
Also still waiting for my new ad card. Can the band backup be stored to internal memory?
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From what I can see, there isn't really much going around for the find 7 QHD international or even the Chinese model yet, since most people are still receiving their pre orders (even myself) be patient and hopefully some stuff will start cropping up, there is a root method already though.

Hey,
I set mine up with AOSP 4.4.4 / root / etc ...
With the instructions here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=53814021&postcount=57
Installed fastboot with this :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2588979
Seems to work OK, main issue is that the mic does not work on the speakerphone or when taking video.
Cheers

I'm on a Find 7 QHD, and have been running CM11 since Monday. I flashed the 7/2 nightly early this morning, and have been hammering the phone for the past 7 hours. No issues...rock solid...45% of my battery left.
While your mileage may vary, for me this has been a very solid ROM.

You can go visit thread in Oppo Forum too: http://www.oppoforums.com/forums/third-party-development.131/
I suggest you to install the recovery first (Gummy's CWM recovery), then root, then install ROM. Like DeadlyDa said, you can go download CM11 nightly (latest one) or Nameless ROM, and Gapps, and then flash them.

Jonnyn93 said:
From what I can see, there isn't really much going around for the find 7 QHD international or even the Chinese model yet, since most people are still receiving their pre orders (even myself) be patient and hopefully some stuff will start cropping up, there is a root method already though.
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So the root method will work on any model? I just received my find 7 x9076 and would love to root. Thanks for letting us know. I can't wait to run cm11 on this bad boy!
I retired my GS3 in style....My 18 month old son chucked the GS3 at Buzz lightyear while we were at Disney! lol....

I haven't flashed for a long time and cannot remember the commands etc for fastboot. Will look when I get home but is there a guide anywhere ?

BillyHo said:
So the root method will work on any model? I just received my find 7 x9076 and would love to root. Thanks for letting us know. I can't wait to run cm11 on this bad boy!
I retired my GS3 in style....My 18 month old son chucked the GS3 at Buzz lightyear while we were at Disney! lol....
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I'm not sure which root methods work with which, a quick google or youtube search should point you in the right direction, just make sure you get the model number right. My QHD find 7 is coming in like 10 mins so I'm super hyped at the moment
And oh dear haha, Kids ey :victory:

Jonnyn93 said:
I'm not sure which root methods work with which, a quick google or youtube search should point you in the right direction, just make sure you get the model number right. My QHD find 7 is coming in like 10 mins so I'm super hyped at the moment
And oh dear haha, Kids ey :victory:
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I tried rooting via xda video and no go I'll keep looking and if you find a you tube video that is solid, let me know thanks.
Oh my boy loves the notification light on the 7!!!! I won't let him touch it..... wwJoshDew (youtuber) posted a vid about an insurance company that is cheaper than all just in case you break a phone. It's 5 bucks a month, supposedly. I may check it out.

BillyHo said:
I tried rooting via xda video and no go I'll keep looking and if you find a you tube video that is solid, let me know thanks.
Oh my boy loves the notification light on the 7!!!! I won't let him touch it..... wwJoshDew (youtuber) posted a vid about an insurance company that is cheaper than all just in case you break a phone. It's 5 bucks a month, supposedly. I may check it out.
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I had my phone rooted within like 10 mins of it being out the box, was super easy compared to my previous Xperia Z1. Ill try find the link again

I rooted last night. Thanks for checking
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LolliPop for the Note 4 due soon...

Looks like Samsung may release LolliPop to our beloved Note 4 sooner rather than later.... but how long will the carriers take before turning it around for us?
http://www.sammobile.com/2014/10/21...te-to-android-lollipop-for-the-galaxy-note-4/
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I will be shocked if we see it before April 2015 on AT&T. Samsung will have to massage it, then AT&T has to bloat it.
I hope I'm wrong.
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I'll probably have sold the Note4 before it gets lollipop.
In 6 months of owning the S5, it was never upgraded to 4.4.4

harlenm said:
I'll probably have sold the Note4 before it gets lollipop.
In 6 months of owning the S5, it was never upgraded to 4.4.4
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4.4.4 has only been out for 4 months, you think you'd have it already on a carrier specific phone, and samsung at that? and with 4.4.4 being a minor update?
By the time 4.4.4 released, Sammy was already well into working on 5.0 Why do the work for a minor update when you could just go straight for the big release?

TechSavvy2 said:
4.4.4 has only been out for 4 months, you think you'd have it already on a carrier specific phone, and samsung at that? and with 4.4.4 being a minor update?
By the time 4.4.4 released, Sammy was already well into working on 5.0 Why do the work for a minor update when you could just go straight for the big release?
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It was released by other carriers.

harlenm said:
It was released by other carriers.
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And? That means nothing. What is it you think you're missing out on with the 4.4.4 update? In answering that 99.99% of people are going to have to look up what the update even entitled.... Can't complain about not getting something that changes absolutely nothing in your phones functionality / aesthetics / UI

harlenm said:
It was released by other carriers.
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I was shocked when Verizon released it, they are usually really slow. ..
And to answer Techsavvy2's question, in Verizon at least, the GS5 4.4.4 update fixed many Bluetooth issues that were present in 4.4.2. But I agree with Tech's point in that new for new's sake is a little pointless.
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I hope we see it before the New Year, although I know the odds of that happening are almost nil. I also hope Samsung adopts the new aesthetic as much as possible, though their current version of Touchwiz is much better than previous versions.

Hope so. Not going to hold my breath waiting though.

Good news
http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/570797/20141027/lg-g3-galaxy-note-4-samsung-s5.htm
Warning: gnarly ads ahead, must wait for ad to display before scrolling down

Jennygirl said:
Good news
http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/570797/20141027/lg-g3-galaxy-note-4-samsung-s5.htm
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Terrible link. I can't read the article due to the constant scrolling as ads load and the full screen T-Mobile ad that I can't seem to dismiss.

ekinnee said:
Terrible link. I can't read the article due to the constant scrolling as ads load and the full screen T-Mobile ad that I can't seem to dismiss.
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Adblock Plus is amazing for google chrome, now if your on your phone idk what to tell you.
Thanks for this article!

ekinnee said:
Terrible link. I can't read the article due to the constant scrolling as ads load and the full screen T-Mobile ad that I can't seem to dismiss.
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Yeah it's pretty bad. You have to wait to let the ad load before the page will let you scroll downwards. I experienced the same thing. Give it 10-15sec to load and hit the X in the top right, then you should be good
Sorry about that

Jennygirl said:
Yeah it's pretty bad. You have to wait to let the ad load before the page will let you scroll downwards. I experienced the same thing. Give it 10-15sec to load and hit the X in the top right, then you should be good
Sorry about that
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It's not you. It's the sites that seem to try and piss you off and have you not read the article because you have to dismiss so much **** to see the content.

ekinnee said:
It's not you. It's the sites that seem to try and piss you off and have you not read the article because you have to dismiss so much **** to see the content.
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Thanks and I hear you, the news sites seem to be the biggest offenders.
At least it is good news
Hopefully as stated earlier in the thread it holds true for AT&T. Maybe they will realize with such a big OS release that people will want it sooner than later.

I have a feeling AT&T is going to delay it for at least a month while it figures out what features they want to disable to add in their own bloated, pay to use version of it !

Why is it called lollipop.....suckers.....
So maybe now a nexus 6 is looking good?

Good.luxk getting one.
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For anyone else who loves the new design eLements, there is a great post here that allows you to install an L themed google keyboard for non-rooted devices. I must say, I've been using it for several days and I love it!! Totally appeasing my need for the new style.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=53716545

Here is another preview of android L on the s5 with the updated touch wiz UI to incorporate material design:
http://androidcommunity.com/samsung-gives-second-preview-of-lollipop-for-galaxy-s5-20141101/
Looking pretty nice.
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VS986 24C Marshmallow OTA File

Pulled the OTA off my phone from /cache/fota/dlpkgfile - 947.03 MB
I give no guarantee or warranty with this file. Whatever you do with it is on you. It is as it came off my phone, no modification. This file is meant for developers mostly, do not attempt to use if you don't know what you're doing.
MD5: a247aebd21c3afc3cc146570c1b601a7
SHA-1: 9294fcb1421e8d4cef85385ef372ca0bb308fe27
Download Link (Google Drive): dlpkgfile
Enjoy

Fingers crossed for an exploit...
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Would the root injection method (can't find the thread, or I would post it) work for the base image? It was intended for less popular variants, but the exact method should work for this, assuming 6.0 doesn't **** the bed after rooting like that. I mean, someone has to take the first step...

jer_stud56 said:
Pulled the OTA off my phone from /cache/fota/dlpkgfile - 947.03 MB
I give no guarantee or warranty with this file. Whatever you do with it is on you. It is as it came off my phone, no modification. This file is meant for developers mostly, do not attempt to use if you don't know what you're doing.
MD5: a247aebd21c3afc3cc146570c1b601a7
SHA-1: 9294fcb1421e8d4cef85385ef372ca0bb308fe27
Download Link (Google Drive): dlpkgfile
Enjoy
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Might up this to other servers to help since im 150 up and down and ill through it on a server or two of mine.
But root injection might work if we can root the bootloader XD. Unsure if I can fiddle with it because I/m only on break for now and back to work soon lol

cmsjr123 said:
Might up this to other servers to help since im 150 up and down and ill through it on a server or two of mine.
But root injection might work if we can root the bootloader XD. Unsure if I can fiddle with it because I/m only on break for now and back to work soon lol
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Certainly welcome to do so, I couldn't get it to properly upload anywhere else. I'll probably end up removing it in a few weeks after it's made the rounds.

Well I took the dive into stock, and it's not too bad. Yeah, I miss Notifications Off and Emoji Switcher (LG Emojis look like dog ****) but I'm sure I'll cope. This coming from the guy that was "CM or bust" last year at this time... God I miss CM...

Has anyone tried using flashfire to run the update?

Ban-Hammer said:
Would the root injection method (can't find the thread, or I would post it) work for the base image? It was intended for less popular variants, but the exact method should work for this, assuming 6.0 doesn't **** the bed after rooting like that. I mean, someone has to take the first step...
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No it will not. Google added flags to the boot.img (both kernel and ramdisk) for security reasons. So unless the bootloader is unlocked, it will see that the system partition has been tampered with and refuse to boot.

shoes22 said:
No it will not. Google added flags to the boot.img (both kernel and ramdisk) for security reasons. So unless the bootloader is unlocked, it will see that the system partition has been tampered with and refuse to boot.
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Yeah, I found the thread and read about 6.0 root issues. Shucks. It's a bummer that such an awesome piece of hardware is held back with oppressive software.

jer_stud56 said:
Pulled the OTA off my phone from /cache/fota/dlpkgfile - 947.03 MB
I give no guarantee or warranty with this file. Whatever you do with it is on you. It is as it came off my phone, no modification. This file is meant for developers mostly, do not attempt to use if you don't know what you're doing.
MD5: a247aebd21c3afc3cc146570c1b601a7
SHA-1: 9294fcb1421e8d4cef85385ef372ca0bb308fe27
Download Link (Google Drive): dlpkgfile
Enjoy
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jer_stud56 said:
Certainly welcome to do so, I couldn't get it to properly upload anywhere else. I'll probably end up removing it in a few weeks after it's made the rounds.
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Thanks ill put it on one drive and then a dedicated server that i have.

@jer_stud56 here's a fast mirror you could use: LINK

How do I install this on my non-rooted stock verizon lg g4?
I am not on Verizon network.

chicu1981 said:
How do I install this on my non-rooted stock verizon lg g4?
I am not on Verizon network.
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get verizon network lol.......
seriously though...

cmsjr123 said:
get verizon network lol.......
seriously though...
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They don't have a network outside of us.

chicu1981 said:
They don't have a network outside of us.
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Suckage.
Wit for kdz or other update method.

chicu1981 said:
They don't have a network outside of us.
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Then why did you buy a Verizon G4?

geoff5093 said:
Then why did you buy a Verizon G4?
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it was a great deal on ebay at least $150 less than other G4s . plus all the band were compatible with my carrier in Canada.
Now i know why it was $150 cheaper. too much bloatware and too much blocking.

chicu1981 said:
it was a great deal on ebay at least $150 less than other G4s . plus all the band were compatible with my carrier in Canada.
Now i know why it was $150 cheaper. too much bloatware and too much blocking.
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You do realize if you rooted it you could de-bloat it and get the missing features of the other models?

shoes22 said:
You do realize if you rooted it you could de-bloat it and get the missing features of the other models?
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What features are missing? i am not too tech savvy. If i can update it to 6.0, it would be an accomplishment for me.

chicu1981 said:
What features are missing? i am not too tech savvy. If i can update it to 6.0, it would be an accomplishment for me.
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Off the top of my head, Verizon removed Smart Settings and the built-in LG theming software found in all the other models (god knows why), disabled the FM radio antenna, disabled call blocking from the Phone app to force you to use their own carrier-based call blocking service, and they also pre-installed their “always-on” Verizon Cloud storage app and Verizon Support & Protection app, which literally monitors every single thing you do on your phone under the guise of anti-virus protection, disk usage and “battery monitoring”. It’s awfully redundant as LG’s built-in software already monitors free disk space and apps that use excessive battery, but the only way to freeze or remove Verizon’s bloatware is with a rooted phone.
It’s a shame because the G4 phone itself is really quite nice and sophisticated if we were allowed to use it how we want.