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I've looked and looked and if I missed something, I apologize.
I'm currently on Verizon. I left T-Mobile way back when to get the Incredible and upgraded to the GNEX the day it became available. I carried over my unlimited data and now I'm just a little pissed I have to give it up (or pay full price or pay for an extra line).
I've been out of the loop for some time, but browse the forums enough to hear people complain about the CDMA phones (mostly been with the GNEX). The One is offered on Verizon and T-Mobile and now I'm able to stay and upgrade or leave and go elsewhere.
I've had and loved T-Mo before. Their service here is just as good as Verizon. I also enjoy their surf the net while you talk (mom can rambe sometimes).
But I can find a plan with either one...
Should I get away from Verizon's phones for a T-mobile. Is it easier to unlock/root/ROM? Is there more support for those things (Dev working on new updates)?
Thanks in advance. Sorry if there is something I missed.
wiredawg119 said:
I've looked and looked and if I missed something, I apologize.
I'm currently on Verizon. I left T-Mobile way back when to get the Incredible and upgraded to the GNEX the day it became available. I carried over my unlimited data and now I'm just a little pissed I have to give it up (or pay full price or pay for an extra line).
I've been out of the loop for some time, but browse the forums enough to hear people complain about the CDMA phones (mostly been with the GNEX). The One is offered on Verizon and T-Mobile and now I'm able to stay and upgrade or leave and go elsewhere.
I've had and loved T-Mo before. Their service here is just as good as Verizon. I also enjoy their surf the net while you talk (mom can rambe sometimes).
But I can find a plan with either one...
Should I get away from Verizon's phones for a T-mobile. Is it easier to unlock/root/ROM? Is there more support for those things (Dev working on new updates)?
Thanks in advance. Sorry if there is something I missed.
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The Verizon HTC One is newer and will not have root or a bootloader unlock immediately, but considering the T-Mobile HTC One has been around for months now, it most likely has a working root. If you stay with Verizon we will most likely get a root and bootloader unlock within a week or two. It's your choice. Which carrier do you prefer? Why did you pick Verizon in the first place if coverage is the same?
vampire5003 said:
The Verizon HTC One is newer and will not have root or a bootloader unlock immediately, but considering the T-Mobile HTC One has been around for months now, it most likely has a working root. If you stay with Verizon we will most likely get a root and bootloader unlock within a week or two. It's your choice. Which carrier do you prefer? Why did you pick Verizon in the first place if coverage is the same?
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I left verizon for the G1 on T-Mobile then left T-Mobile for the HTC Incredible. Since I have my eye on the One and can get it on either I wanted to know which provider (or version of phone actually) would be better,
I'm sure someone will come up with something for the Verizon version, I just wanted to know which would have more support for ROMs and such in the future. With my GNEX, it always seemed the GSM version had more and quicker updates.
I really don't prefer one over the other, but I guess I'm just upset Verizon won't let me keep my Unlimited and T-Mobile offers it still.
wiredawg119 said:
I've looked and looked and if I missed something, I apologize.
I'm currently on Verizon. I left T-Mobile way back when to get the Incredible and upgraded to the GNEX the day it became available. I carried over my unlimited data and now I'm just a little pissed I have to give it up (or pay full price or pay for an extra line).
I've been out of the loop for some time, but browse the forums enough to hear people complain about the CDMA phones (mostly been with the GNEX). The One is offered on Verizon and T-Mobile and now I'm able to stay and upgrade or leave and go elsewhere.
I've had and loved T-Mo before. Their service here is just as good as Verizon. I also enjoy their surf the net while you talk (mom can rambe sometimes).
But I can find a plan with either one...
Should I get away from Verizon's phones for a T-mobile. Is it easier to unlock/root/ROM? Is there more support for those things (Dev working on new updates)?
Thanks in advance. Sorry if there is something I missed.
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I left T-Mobile and I will NEVER go back. They offer the ability to upgrade faster because their service sucks.
vampire5003 said:
The Verizon HTC One is newer and will not have root or a bootloader unlock immediately, but considering the T-Mobile HTC One has been around for months now, it most likely has a working root. If you stay with Verizon we will most likely get a root and bootloader unlock within a week or two. It's your choice. Which carrier do you prefer? Why did you pick Verizon in the first place if coverage is the same?
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Bootloader unlock already works per dev. forum.
I tried T-Mobile and the coverage in my area was terrible and was forced to switch back to Verizon. Just be careful and really check that coverage map!
samstudent said:
I tried T-Mobile and the coverage in my area was terrible and was forced to switch back to Verizon. Just be careful and really check that coverage map!
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I know Verizon is great as far as coverage, but I know T-Mobile isn't bad in my area either.
I just really want to know if there will be developers that care about this version like I'm sure they are with the GSM version.
I am glad to see that it's unlockable (for now). That puts even more of a time crunch as I'm sure Verizon will have an OTA out there to kill that soon....
I did 2 months of t-mobile prepaid just to test our their new LTE network in my area (San Jose Bay Area, CA). I have 2 verizon lines, 1 for work and 1 for person.
Yesterday, I officially terminated my personal Verizon line and moved the number to T-Mobile. While T-Mobile's 3G/4G HSPA reception is shotty, their LTE network in San Jose is extremely solid and robust, especially considering how new it is.
Just my thoughts and opinions.
I just switched from Verizon to T Mobile, I tested it out for a week before I ported my line. T Mobile is just as fast here in Chicago and about $50 lower a month than Verizon. If you travel I would probably stick with Verizon. I just went from Chicago to NJ and had terrible to no signal through OH & PA.
I have used both carriers. In my opinion Verizon has the best coverage, but t mobile has the cheapest plan. When I was with Verizon I paid 130 a month and right know I'm only paying 70 a month for t mobile for unlimited everything.
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Every HTC phone I've had so far allowed data while on the phone. That's not unique to T-Mobile. My vzw phones (HTC) have all done it...including this ONE
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dottat said:
Every HTC phone I've had so far allowed data while on the phone. That's not unique to T-Mobile. My vzw phones (HTC) have all done it...including this ONE
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All 4g data can run while on a call regardless of carrier. 3g was limited to resound and thunderbolt on verizon
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Every HTC phone I've had so far allowed data while on the phone. That's not unique to T-Mobile. My vzw phones (HTC) have all done it...including this ONE
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All 4g data can run while on a call regardless of carrier. 3g was limited to resound and thunderbolt on verizon
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To be honest, I just figured this out last night as I was on hold on a call and answering emails. I remember I wasn't able to do that at one point, and never even noticed the change. The commercials come to mind of other carriers making fun of Verizon not being able to do that so I never even tried. Since at work and at home (if not on wifi) I'm usually only a 3G signal anyway if it worked I wouldn't have noticed. And I live/work in Norfolk VA which is not exactly the middle of nowhere. Maybe my GNEX just sucks...... I dont know. This is a congested area though so maybe that's why?
I went to both last night. The guy that helped me at Verizon was reason enough to quit them and never go back. The entire time I had to talk over his football game on his iPhone. Had it connected to a speaker and had it on full blast. I actually had to repeat myself numerous times... a**hole. He made it quite clear I was a nuisance to him.
I know I'm comparing two different phones and I'm sure any other radio out now will blow away whatever is on my GNEX, but speedtest on Verizon was low teens while T-Mobile was constantly over 20 on the One
I may just make the switch. If I travel I can use wifi if I don't have service. Every McDonalds and Starbucks has it, so I'm not worried (those are EVERYWHERE :laugh. and either way, I believe I'll just buy the phone outright.
I guess I still have the question of GSM vs CDMA. Since Google is pushing the updates for the GSM version, would that be the way to go?
Sorry for the stupid questions, I just don't want to make the decision to realize it was the wrong one. Other's advice is always appreciated.
buy T-Mobile. It runs same roms as universal so development will always be more. And if tmo had service as good as Verizon here, I'd be on it. It's so much cheaper.
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Bootloader unlock already works per dev. forum.
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I'm confused between the above claim and THIS THREAD
I thought bootloader unlock was not possible (yet?) on VZW
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I'm confused between the above claim and THIS THREAD
I thought bootloader unlock was not possible (yet?) on VZW
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If you was one of the lucky few when the HTC one was first launched then you was able to unlock through HTC dev before Verizon issued the stop. Now if you want an unlocked bootloader you need to find a person like sonic with a java card to unlock your phone for a fee.
Now some has said there are devs who possibly found an exploit but are waiting until Verizon updates the phone to 4.3 so they can't patch the exploit right off the bat.
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If you was one of the lucky few when the HTC one was first launched then you was able to unlock through HTC dev before Verizon issued the stop. Now if you want an unlocked bootloader you need to find a person like sonic with a java card to unlock your phone for a fee.
Now some has said there are devs who possibly found an exploit but are waiting until Verizon updates the phone to 4.3 so they can't patch the exploit right off the bat.
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And does anyone have a decent guess at when 4.3 will be released for HTC One?
lhuge said:
I'm confused between the above claim and THIS THREAD
I thought bootloader unlock was not possible (yet?) on VZW
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I wrote that over a month ago on day one of the release.
lhuge said:
And does anyone have a decent guess at when 4.3 will be released for HTC One?
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Well, this is Verizon, so I'm guessing September of next year.
wiredawg119 said:
I've looked and looked and if I missed something, I apologize.
I'm currently on Verizon. I left T-Mobile way back when to get the Incredible and upgraded to the GNEX the day it became available. I carried over my unlimited data and now I'm just a little pissed I have to give it up (or pay full price or pay for an extra line).
I've been out of the loop for some time, but browse the forums enough to hear people complain about the CDMA phones (mostly been with the GNEX). The One is offered on Verizon and T-Mobile and now I'm able to stay and upgrade or leave and go elsewhere.
I've had and loved T-Mo before. Their service here is just as good as Verizon. I also enjoy their surf the net while you talk (mom can rambe sometimes).
But I can find a plan with either one...
Should I get away from Verizon's phones for a T-mobile. Is it easier to unlock/root/ROM? Is there more support for those things (Dev working on new updates)?
Thanks in advance. Sorry if there is something I missed.
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If your service is the same, then t-mobile is clearly the better choice. However if you plan on moving around at all, I'd be very wary of t-mobile. I too left verizon for t-mobile once and went back because Verizon had superior coverage. T-mobile was great in most areas, except where they weren't. Verizon was always good, everywhere coverage wise
One of the biggest reasons I didn't buy the Sprint Galaxy Note 3 was because of the device only supporting uniband LTE.
Do we know what kind of antennas the Sprint Note 4 will have from the FCC filings? I am hoping it's Tri-band. :laugh: :good:
Here is a link to all of the documents if someone who knows what they're doing can gleen an answer:
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...ame=N&application_id=598336&fcc_id=A3LSMN910P
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One of the biggest reasons I didn't buy the Sprint Galaxy Note 3 was because of the device only supporting uniband LTE.
Do we know what kind of antennas the Sprint Note 4 will have from the FCC filings? I am hoping it's Tri-band. :laugh: :good:
Here is a link to all of the documents if someone who knows what they're doing can gleen an answer:
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...ame=N&application_id=598336&fcc_id=A3LSMN910P
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I might have answered my own question, but confirmation would be nice:
I found these:
* LTE Band 26
* LTE Band 25 (PCS)
* LTE Band 41
It also appears to support MIMO Wifi
Yes it's going to be triband and thus spark enabled.
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Sprint note 4?
Lets see if sprint locks the sim down on this phone just like they did on the note 3, if so, I will NOT purchase this handset. Samsung is trying the apple approach when it comes to developing its own eco system, giving users less options; Is anyone else hear worried about the sim lock? What about the new KNOX? I really dont want to go through all that again,ughhh
About20ninj45 said:
Lets see if sprint locks the sim down on this phone just like they did on the note 3, if so, I will NOT purchase this handset. Samsung is trying the apple approach when it comes to developing its own eco system, giving users less options; Is anyone else hear worried about the sim lock? What about the new KNOX? I really dont want to go through all that again,ughhh
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By sim lock do you mean not being able to use it on other carriers domestically?
As far as my understanding goes, isn't a bigger issue a locked bootloader than Knox since sprint could probably care less about Knox being tripped?
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That as well
We still dont have a way to unlock the N3 ( without sprint international or domestic ) So I assume it will be the same way on the N4. Lock bootloader im not so much concerned about, only because i doubt it will come with one. ( I could be wrong and if i am i apologize in advance lol ) If it comes with a locked bootloader, then i will simply rma it and not use my upgrade, ditch sprint and head to tmobile.
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By sim lock do you mean not being able to use it on other carriers domestically?
As far as my understanding goes, isn't a bigger issue a locked bootloader than Knox since sprint could probably care less about Knox being tripped?
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About20ninj45 said:
We still dont have a way to unlock the N3 ( without sprint international or domestic ) So I assume it will be the same way on the N4. Lock bootloader im not so much concerned about, only because i doubt it will come with one. ( I could be wrong and if i am i apologize in advance lol ) If it comes with a locked bootloader, then i will simply rma it and not use my upgrade, ditch sprint and head to tmobile.
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Forgive me if I'm misunderstanding what you said but to use your phone internationally all you have to do is call sprint for the unlock code. For domestic purposes sprint won't unlock it until after Feb 2015 for phones made after that date
Yeah I don't forsee the bootloader being unlocked but hopefully some devs will find a way around it? One can hope at least. Either way I'll stick with the note 4 as I'm coming from the s3 and got a good family plan so no plans of switching carriers.
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No worries ..
My dear xda friend, you cant unlock the sim for international use if you are on the sprint easy pay program, even i fyou purchased your phone out right ( in my case anyway ) i have 3 lines with sprint and they wont allow me to unlock them, so i am s.o.l, even if i wasnt on easy pay, they told me that i have an old account that has an unsettled debt so they wont unlock it, even though it was proven to be fraud in court.
Thats even more of a reason to terminate service. im really disappointed with cell phone manufacturers,especially samsung, how do you not include usb 3.0 and temp and humidity sensors, some people actually use these for work, guess ill be sticking with my N3
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Forgive me if I'm misunderstanding what you said but to use your phone internationally all you have to do is call sprint for the unlock code. For domestic purposes sprint won't unlock it until after Feb 2015 for phones made after that date
Yeah I don't forsee the bootloader being unlocked but hopefully some devs will find a way around it? One can hope at least. Either way I'll stick with the note 4 as I'm coming from the s3 and got a good family plan so no plans of switching carriers.
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About20ninj45 said:
My dear xda friend, you cant unlock the sim for international use if you are on the sprint easy pay program, even i fyou purchased your phone out right ( in my case anyway ) i have 3 lines with sprint and they wont allow me to unlock them, so i am s.o.l, even if i wasnt on easy pay, they told me that i have an old account that has an unsettled debt so they wont unlock it, even though it was proven to be fraud in court.
Thats even more of a reason to terminate service. im really disappointed with cell phone manufacturers,especially samsung, how do you not include usb 3.0 and temp and humidity sensors, some people actually use these for work, guess ill be sticking with my N3
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Ah I see. I guess since im not on easy pay nor had issues on my account I would be in a different boat than you.
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About20ninj45 said:
We still dont have a way to unlock the N3 ( without sprint international or domestic ) So I assume it will be the same way on the N4. Lock bootloader im not so much concerned about, only because i doubt it will come with one. ( I could be wrong and if i am i apologize in advance lol ) If it comes with a locked bootloader, then i will simply rma it and not use my upgrade, ditch sprint and head to tmobile.
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Wasn't sprint the only carrier to send out the S5 with unlocked bootloader? So why would t-mobile leave the Note 4 alone but lock the S5? For me im good as long as there is a root but I also don't mind TW roms.
Possibly
sml2004 said:
Wasn't sprint the only carrier to send out the S5 with unlocked bootloader? So why would t-mobile leave the Note 4 alone but lock the S5? For me im good as long as there is a root but I also don't mind TW roms.
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But i dont mind stock roms, i like tw, and regularly use my spen, i just want to be able to swap sims and carriers when and how i want.
Sprint released news a while back about devices manufactured in 2015 will be " unlockable" but the funny thing is, the law allowing you to unlock your phone expires next year< end of 2015. So sprint is trying to dodge that bullet, and im pretty sure the note 4 wont be unlockable
I like tw as well! Just like rooted stock...
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I like tw as well! Just like rooted stock...
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Ditto
Any idea , you think the sprint note 3 domestic sim unlock can use it like reference ? I am not a sprint client
mohica10 said:
Any idea , you think the sprint note 3 domestic sim unlock can use it like reference ? I am not a sprint client
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+1
CapitanFantasma said:
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Maybe if we beg...
?????
I'd be willing to kick in $10 toward a bounty for a dev to crack the issue.
jhill110 said:
I'd be willing to kick in $10 toward a bounty for a dev to crack the issue.
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yes i can put $50 , if someone can do it
mohica10 said:
yes i can put $50 , if someone can do it
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10$ +
Why? If you are trying to use the Sprint Note 4 on t-mobile or att, why not just buy a T-Mobile or att note 4?
Even if you do get domestic sim unlock for the Sprint Note 4 and you try to use it on the t-mobile or att network, 4g lte will not work.
DarkManX4lf said:
Why? If you are trying to use the Sprint Note 4 on t-mobile or att, why not just buy a T-Mobile or att note 4?
Even if you do get domestic sim unlock for the Sprint Note 4 and you try to use it on the t-mobile or att network, 4g lte will not work.
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Many people here are actually flash phone shops etc, kind of places that make decent money off sim unlocking sprint devices.
http://orlando.craigslist.org/mod/4744381393.html
http://www.ebay.com/itm/UNLOCK-your...364?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35df366f94
Why should anyone release a sim unlock method for free or even with a "bounty" when these guys are going to be selling it for 40-60 bucks a phone. I've had my work out there being sold, but it was 10-20 bucks. this is on enough of a level that its the difference between a full time job's income vs giving it to a handful of people that could use it and care and a crapload of jerks who take and never contribute.
shabbypenguin said:
Many people here are actually flash phone shops etc, kind of places that make decent money off sim unlocking sprint devices.
http://orlando.craigslist.org/mod/4744381393.html
http://www.ebay.com/itm/UNLOCK-your...364?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35df366f94
Why should anyone release a sim unlock method for free or even with a "bounty" when these guys are going to be selling it for 40-60 bucks a phone. I've had my work out there being sold, but it was 10-20 bucks. this is on enough of a level that its the difference between a full time job's income vs giving it to a handful of people that could use it and care and a crapload of jerks who take and never contribute.
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That definitely sucks.
DarkManX4lf said:
Why? If you are trying to use the Sprint Note 4 on t-mobile or att, why not just buy a T-Mobile or att note 4?
Even if you do get domestic sim unlock for the Sprint Note 4 and you try to use it on the t-mobile or att network, 4g lte will not work.
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Because Sprint phones are cheaper than tmobile and att
mohica10 said:
Because Sprint phones are cheaper than tmobile and att
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long term yea, but assuming you bought a note 4 at full retail (which lets face it the used market isnt exactly booming just yet) means you paid 720 bucks to get a sprint one. VS tmobiles 750 which would allow you to get LTE and work for your carrier far sooner than sprints.
seems like a solid 30 dollar investment IMO...
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Because Sprint phones are cheaper than tmobile and att
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I'm guessing you are trying to use the Sprint Note 4 outside if the US. Ok cool. But wouldn't you not be able to use your carriers hspa+ network or lte?
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I'm guessing you are trying to use the Sprint Note 4 outside if the US. Ok cool. But wouldn't you not be able to use your carriers hspa+ network or lte?
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Yes, we have 2 carrier in my country, one use band 850 and the other 1900 wcdma i can use phone fine
mohica10 said:
Any idea , you think the sprint note 3 domestic sim unlock can use it like reference ? I am not a sprint client
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The Galaxy Tools 4 root user app has just updated to include uicc unlocking for newer Samsung devices (Note 4)
Uniquebarbee said:
The Galaxy Tools 4 root user app has just updated to include uicc unlocking for newer Samsung devices (Note 4)
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where can I get that app?
CK.84 said:
where can I get that app?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/sho...v3.1.2: HOTSPOT, hidden menus, + EVERYTHING!!
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Hello:
I have a note 4 from sprint and needs to be unlocked to be used with a different Carrier
Can you please advise how to be able to do this ? additionally how can remove the sprint start up and sprint apps ?
ali.sulaiman1980 said:
Hello:
I have a note 4 from sprint and needs to be unlocked to be used with a different Carrier
Can you please advise how to be able to do this ? additionally how can remove the sprint start up and sprint apps ?
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on what carrier you are planing to use it? You cannot use sprint Galaxy note 4 on domestic GSM carriers like AT&T, T-mobile and their MVNOs (Straighttalk , etc). The phone can be unlocked for international GSM use (voice and 3G only, not LTE). Internationla unlock can be done officially through Sprint or unofficially via app in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/spr...print-samsung-unlocker-unlock-sprint-t2928250
My question is how did you come across a Sprint Note 4? Did you not do your homework before acquiring the Sprint Note 4? Maybe you somehow got the phone for free? Why would somebody actually pay for a nice phone (released only a month or so ago) without knowing if it will work on a completely different network/carrier... then turn around and look for help on how to activate it on a GSM carrier? This makes no sense to me.
Im curious too.
Can a Sprint phone be unlocked and set up for use on ANY other carrier in the USA,
ie: Verizon?
No no no
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I am pretty sure that if the phone had a clean ESN that you can activate it on Ting Mobile. I have also saw a thread where someone had flashed a T-Mobile Rom to the Sprint note 4 but they where not getting LTE of course I'm sure in time someone will come out with something stable.
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My question is how did you come across a Sprint Note 4? Did you not do your homework before acquiring the Sprint Note 4? Maybe you somehow got the phone for free? Why would somebody actually pay for a nice phone (released only a month or so ago) without knowing if it will work on a completely different network/carrier... then turn around and look for help on how to activate it on a GSM carrier? This makes no sense to me.
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Off topic here.
I came up for upgrade in June. I was gonna go Nexus 5 and then the Nexus 6 rumors started to fly. So I waited and along came the Note 4. After much research I ended up with arguably the best phone on the planet. Imo it is.
Unlock Code
I am in Canada, got this as xmas gift from my father in law
You can root and try Galaxy Tools 4 root users https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.idone.galaxymenu
Or you can use this app from the S5 thread you don't need root with this app http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2928250
Hope this helps a little
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sliverr7x said:
No no no
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So...Sprint phones can ONLY be used on Sprint carrier here is the good 'ol U,S of A???..
if unlocked, then another Sprint user can use it.. but other carriers?? correct???
Once Sprint, Always Sprint???
thanks...
jimmbomb said:
So...Sprint phones can ONLY be used on Sprint carrier here is the good 'ol U,S of A???..
if unlocked, then another Sprint user can use it.. but other carriers?? correct???
Once Sprint, Always Sprint???
thanks...
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Which question would you like answered?
xxSTARBUCKSxx said:
Which question would you like answered?
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How about you answer what you can. Starbucks
see. I just answered your question,
so take a stab at answering too...
even if its a wrong answer, id like to hear .
thanks
jimmbomb said:
So...Sprint phones can ONLY be used on Sprint carrier here is the good 'ol U,S of A???..
if unlocked, then another Sprint user can use it.. but other carriers?? correct???
Once Sprint, Always Sprint???
thanks...
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1. No
2. Customers can switch devices by calling on a different phone to CS or going into store and switch devices, no unlocking necessary.
3. Just switch Sim cards and edit and tweak where necessary or pay someone if you dont know how.
4. Correct, but no unlocking necessary.
5. That depends on the person.
Thank you for your answers
sliverr7x said:
No no no
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Yes yes yes it can be used with other carriers in the USA. Are people forgetting about flashing of modems and firmware. What decade are we in 1960? Our maybe 1950 when phone were still two way radios. Remember sprint can't stop everything Samsung does in making their phone. Ask the right questions to right people get right answer. If someone in XDA hasn't figured it out yet just wait & keep on looking. XDA is also not the only place to look for answers to everything Samsung, sometimes Samsung is were to look or Samsung blogs. All I hear is everyone that talks about Samsung first thing everyone says is it CAN'T be done. When are the tech, crackers, & hackers of this world going to stop saying everything is impossible & realize we are the ones that make everything possible. If we are going to do that why do we become techs or crackers or hackers or even developers in the every first place?.... LET'S STOP PUTTING LIMITS ON OU OURSELVES & SHOW SPRING WHAT WE CAN DO! Sprint is not GODZ. We created what sprint & Every carrier in the world uses to try to put limitations one everyone with. Are we going to let the carriers use or phones against us or are we going to use them the way the phone manufactures wanted the phones to be used ( without restrictions of the carriers of the world.)
after unlocking your sprint device you can only use it with carriers outside the USA. If you are planning to use it with local sim cards after unlocking like at&t and t-mobile (gsm) then you cannot.
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after unlocking your sprint device you can only use it with carriers outside the USA. If you are planning to use it with local sim cards after unlocking like at&t and t-mobile (gsm) then you cannot.
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Umm if its not under payments u can
Yep once the phone is paid for per new laws that went active in Feb or March if you ask the carrier to domestic unlock your phone they are required to do it by law. Some models this will not be possible but the note 4 should. I think the carriers have a grace period to make this available. Not sure how long. I could quote the legislation but Id have to search for it.
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B to the S. If you can unlock a 720t a note 4 can be unlocked!! Period!! It picks up signal just no antenna for that signal because the phone antenna is tuned in the wrong station or radius degree. I think if the people who can unlock 720t s can try the same methods with busy box or Verizon modems. Like guy said earlier " Si se puede"!! It can be done!! Just need to tweak frequency angles and remove face security options a little.
By law you can have it unlocked for a limited time, but that will not make the LTE radio magically work on your carriers band unless they support the same band. Or unless you know someone who can JTAG flash the radio to another carrier as well you will not be able to use the LTE/DATA band on a carrier that does not support the frequency. This is nothing something that can be done over USB or by a new kernel. This will have to be done with JTAG and by someone who has access to the various carriers radio firmware which is tightly guarded. So basically you will be using a Note 4 on 3G only. Might as well just sign up with SPRINT then, you will get the same service speed.
Can someone help in this arena would be good to know the difference. Sammy is giving $600 trade-in on my Note 9 if I go to unlocked or I can get the same with Bestbuy carrier locked to ATT. Why I would like to go Samsung route is that it would give me time to move all my 2FA.
So if anyone has a list of carrier difference and issues pleas let me know
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Can someone help in this arena would be good to know the difference. Sammy is giving $600 trade-in on my Note 9 if I go to unlocked or I can get the same with Bestbuy carrier locked to ATT. Why I would like to go Samsung route is that it would give me time to move all my 2FA.
So if anyone has a list of carrier difference and issues pleas let me know
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They are the same phones and can run the same firmware.
I would go with whatever the best deal you can get.
I thought things like video calling and wifi phone calls don't work. Hmm well that's good news then.
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I thought things like video calling and wifi phone calls don't work. Hmm well that's good news then.
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Who is your carrier?
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buffalosolja42 said:
Can someone help in this arena would be good to know the difference. Sammy is giving $600 trade-in on my Note 9 if I go to unlocked or I can get the same with Bestbuy carrier locked to ATT. Why I would like to go Samsung route is that it would give me time to move all my 2FA.
So if anyone has a list of carrier difference and issues pleas let me know
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You can actually just go research any of this in the Galaxy S8, Note 8, Galaxy S9, Note 9, or Galaxy S10 forums. They all work the same way.
Same hardware across each of the variants, but the software and the carrier will determine which features work. If you're on ATT and you want WiFi calling and VoLTE, you'll need to buy an ATT device. They check your IMEI and if it isn't on their whitelist, those features won't work, even if you flash the ATT firmware.
All the other carriers you can just flash their carrier firmware.
T-Mobile is the easiest. The only thing that won't work on TMO with unlocked firmware is video calling and RCS texting. WiFi calling and VoLTE work right out of the box.
That is what i figured searched the forums a bit but needed something concise appreciate the info!!
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Who is your carrier?
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You can actually just go research any of this in the Galaxy S8, Note 8, Galaxy S9, Note 9, or Galaxy S10 forums. They all work the same way.
Same hardware across each of the variants, but the software and the carrier will determine which features work. If you're on ATT and you want WiFi calling and VoLTE, you'll need to buy an ATT device. They check your IMEI and if it isn't on their whitelist, those features won't work, even if you flash the ATT firmware.
All the other carriers you can just flash their carrier firmware.
T-Mobile is the easiest. The only thing that won't work on TMO with unlocked firmware is video calling and RCS texting. WiFi calling and VoLTE work right out of the box.
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I am using ATT prepaid and I bought the S10 plus last year. I flashed it with the ATT firmware and I got wifi calling working. I plan to do the same for my Note 10 plus.
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I am using ATT prepaid and I bought the S10 plus last year. I flashed it with the ATT firmware and I got wifi calling working. I plan to do the same for my Note 10 plus.
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Cool! Someone just said that doesn't work on ATT anymore, because they now strictly check your IMEI. I use TMO so I didn't do anymore research, just figured ATT changed their system.
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Cool! Someone just said that doesn't work on ATT anymore, because they now strictly check your IMEI. I use TMO so I didn't do anymore research, just figured ATT changed their system.
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I have been using it just fine. I will do it on my Note 10 plus and report back my result.
Well there you go, OP. I guess flashing ATT firmware to your unlocked device still works to activate carrier features. Everything else I said is still accurate.
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Cool! Someone just said that doesn't work on ATT anymore, because they now strictly check your IMEI. I use TMO so I didn't do anymore research, just figured ATT changed their system.
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So right now ATT wifi calling doesn't work with Note 10 Plus but it does work for S10 Plus (and previous models). I am pretty sure this is because the Note 10 is still very new and their system needs some update. I will wait a couple weeks and see what happens.
I called ATT. They told me Note 10 is not on their list yet.
Wow thanks so everything works when flashing the firmware that's great. My wife and I use thr video calling this is great news.
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Wow thanks so everything works when flashing the firmware that's great. My wife and I use thr video calling this is great news.
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thats the first time I heard of anyone actually using it!
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thats the first time I heard of anyone actually using it!
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Work in IT daily and easier for wife as it pops up in call.
I would use it, but I use a Google Voice number as my primary number. We used to do Hangouts video calls all the time, but not so much anymore. I guess the romance is dead.
If you flash carrier firmware to the unlocked phone, don't you basically just end up with a carrier phone? If the answer is yes, then what's the point of buying the unlocked phone?
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If you flash carrier firmware to the unlocked phone, don't you basically just end up with a carrier phone? If the answer is yes, then what's the point of buying the unlocked phone?
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I have a pre-order deal from Samsung that is between 6-700 can't remember at the moment.
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I always use unlocked devices whether it be Samsung unlocked or Google pixels unlocked but all work like a charm on verizon and get basically free unchecked hotspot
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So right now ATT wifi calling doesn't work with Note 10 Plus but it does work for S10 Plus (and previous models). I am pretty sure this is because the Note 10 is still very new and their system needs some update. I will wait a couple weeks and see what happens.
I called ATT. They told me Note 10 is not on their list yet.
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Wow thanks so everything works when flashing the firmware that's great. My wife and I use thr video calling this is great news.
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So interestingly, there's another thread and people who are flashing ATT firmware to the unlocked version can no longer get WFC to work. They said it works for a few minutes if they give ATT an old IMEI number, but the system will automatically update to the new IMEI and WFC will no longer work. Read page four of the thread to see what I'm talking about.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-10+/how-to/unlocked-samsung-att-tmo-t3956698
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If you flash carrier firmware to the unlocked phone, don't you basically just end up with a carrier phone? If the answer is yes, then what's the point of buying the unlocked phone?
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There's a few reasons:
1. This year the Note 9 is worth $600 towards an unlocked model, but only $300 towards carrier models.
2. The U1 models generally maintain their value a little better than the carrier branded models. Even though it's the same exact device, that little "1" makes a difference for some reason.
3. It's factory unlocked. T-Mo, Sprint, ATT, and now Verizon all come carrier locked. Verizon stays locked for 60 days then automatically unlocks. T-Mo you have to pay it off, or pay cash up front, then wait 40 days with it active on your account before it can be unlocked. ATT again has to be paid off or paid in full up front and then you have to request an unkock and wait for the code. I believe Sprint automatically unlocks it once it's paid off.
4. I've heard conflicting stories, but at least in the past, Sprint was weird about their BYOD program. You could only bring devices with whitelisted IMEIs. That was Sprint devices and factory unlocked devices. If you just got your ATT Galaxy S8+ unlocked and brought it to Sprint, it wouldn't activate, even though it was the same exact device hardwarewise. The IMEI wasn't in their database. So the Unlocked version is more flexible.
5. That ugly ATT box. For some reason ATT will often take the phone out of the nice Samsung box and throw it in a cheap ATT box. See the USA Pre-order thread on here. There's already people complaining about that box. And I'm a packaging guy.
So you might as well get the device that's cheaper up front and holds it's value the best and is the most flexible carrier wise. If you want carrier features and firmware, you can still have them, and no worries ever about a SIM lock. Well except with ATT apparently. If you need ATT WiFi calling and VoLTE, you may be stuck getting the ATT model, from what I'm reading.
Now that said, if you don't have a trade in device, and your carrier is offering a better deal on their model...then by all means get that one.
Resurrecting and old thread rather than starting a new one.
I'm on T-Mobile and looking at either an unlocked Note 10+ which is $200 off right now from Samsung and Amazon or the Note 10+ 5G from T-Mobile. I know this is a bit of an apples to oranges thing, but what I'm wondering about is data roaming. I've heard, but have not been able to confirm is that an unlocked model will not data roam on partner networks, while a T-Mobile version will data roam. I do know that my current phone, an unlocked Essential PH-1 does not data roam, but is this true for all factory unlocked vs. carrier phones? Or at least T-Mobile phones?
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Resurrecting and old thread rather than starting a new one.
I'm on T-Mobile and looking at either an unlocked Note 10+ which is $200 off right now from Samsung and Amazon or the Note 10+ 5G from T-Mobile. I know this is a bit of an apples to oranges thing, but what I'm wondering about is data roaming. I've heard, but have not been able to confirm is that an unlocked model will not data roam on partner networks, while a T-Mobile version will data roam. I do know that my current phone, an unlocked Essential PH-1 does not data roam, but is this true for all factory unlocked vs. carrier phones? Or at least T-Mobile phones?
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T-Mobile customer here. I had an unlocked S7 Edge that would roam just fine on partner networks, in the US and internationally. Haven't had the opportunity to test roaming yet with my brand new unlocked Note 10+ but I suspect my results would be the same as with my S7 Edge.