Hi guys,
I need to ask this, does moto 360 has built-in wifi or not?
Because it's a shame if next android wear be here and we can't use wifi stand alone feature
scorpion_s66 said:
Hi guys,
I need to ask this, does moto 360 has built-in wifi or not?
Because it's a shame if next android wear be here and we can't use wifi stand alone feature
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No, it does not.
pr0cl1v1ty said:
No, it does not.
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The specs say it does have Wifi, but nobody has been able to prove if it does or does not.
JimSmith94 said:
The specs say it does have Wifi, but nobody has been able to prove if it does or does not.
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Where does it say that?
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The specs say it does have Wifi, but nobody has been able to prove if it does or does not.
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Thanks, do you have the link for that spec you've mentioned?
It's been rumored since before it was released. Here are a few links:
http://readwrite.com/2014/08/19/moto-360-smartwatch-wi-fi-internet-standalone
https://www.reddit.com/r/moto360/comments/2o4pwy/moto_360s_ti_wireless_chip_has_wifi_capabilities/
http://www.cnet.com/news/apple-watch-specs-versus-moto-360-lg-g-watch-r-samsung-gear-s/
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It's been rumored since before it was released. Here are a few links:
http://readwrite.com/2014/08/19/moto-360-smartwatch-wi-fi-internet-standalone
https://www.reddit.com/r/moto360/comments/2o4pwy/moto_360s_ti_wireless_chip_has_wifi_capabilities/
http://www.cnet.com/news/apple-watch-specs-versus-moto-360-lg-g-watch-r-samsung-gear-s/
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Rumors vs stats from manufacturers website.
If you search for the FCC fillings for the Motorola 360 smartwatch, you will find several documents that attest that the chipset the watch uses DOES support Wlan.
Check out this, at read heading 2.2 of TEST REPORT BT.
See bold section below from the FCC documentation.
The Moto 360 has WiFi.
One revealing thing about the documentation is while they list the device as WLAN capable, they do not test it.
They only tested the Bluetooth radio.
Test Dates:
EUT Type:
Page 5 of 48
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Wrist Watch
© 2014 PCTEST Engineering Laboratory, Inc.
V 5.0
01/13/2014
2.0 PRODUCT INFORMATION
2.1 Equipment Description
The Equipment Under Test (EUT) is the
Motorola
Wrist Watch FCC ID: IHDT6QC1
. The test data contained
in this report pertains only to the emissions due to the EUT’s Bluetooth transmitter.
2.2 Device Capabilities
This device contains the following capabilities:
802.11b/g/n WLAN, Bluetooth (1x, EDR, LE)
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Also listed as one of the device's capabilities in the attestation doc...
2.3.
Attestation Statement
(Equipment Class DTS and DSS - Bluetooth/Wi-Fi)
This device contains an embedded Bluetooth device and Wi-Fi device capabilities that Motorola Mobility confirms are compliant with the applicable Part 15C regulations.
15.247(a)(1)
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The hopping sequence must be pseudorandom.
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All Channels are used equally on average.
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The receiver input bandwidth is approximately equal to the transmit bandwidth.
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The receiver hops in sequence with the transmitted signal.
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It does have a Wifi chipset on board, but its of no use as its not enabled by Motorola.
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And i dont think the battery of Moto 360 is capable enough to handle Wifi ...as everyone knows the incapabilities of the 320 mAh battery.
StariX37 said:
It does have a Wifi chipset on board, but its of no use as its not enabled by Motorola.
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And i dont think the battery of Moto 360 is capable enough to handle Wifi ...as everyone knows the incapabilities of the 320 mAh battery.
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Exactly. WiFi in general is a VERY power-hungry interface. And the way SoCs are nowadays it's common to have lots of interfaceson a chip that you just don't use. So it's no surprise that they have WiFi on the chip they're using but it's equally unsurprising (and smart) that they're not using it.
Here we are: http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2015/04/android-wear-wear-what-you-want-get.html. , now what? We'll got wifi support or what?
Motorola's blog entry includes the presence of WiFi in the update. I wouldn't think they would include it if it wouldn't be present in the watch:
motorola-blog [dot] blogspot [dot] com
[apologies, too new to actually post direct URLs]
scorpion_s66 said:
Here we are: http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2015/04/android-wear-wear-what-you-want-get.html. , now what? We'll got wifi support or what?
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MOtorola is the only one who will be able to answer this. I imagine they will want to leverage this new Wear functionality but it may be so detrimental to their battery life that they don't. Or it may just not work for whatever reason, since t hey didn't design the watch to USE the WiFi interface to begin with. You'll find out soon enoug.
sfringer said:
Motorola's blog entry includes the presence of WiFi in the update. I wouldn't think they would include it if it wouldn't be present in the watch:
motorola-blog [dot] blogspot [dot] com
[apologies, too new to actually post direct URLs]
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Looks pretty definitive to me...
Simpler, easier and more fun. In the next few weeks, an update is coming to Moto 360 equipped with fun few new features like Wi-Fi connectivity, new gestures and easy-to-draw emojis. That way, you can get more done and have some fun with your watch.
Go Ahead, Put Your Phone Down
Over Wi-Fi, you’ll be able to use your Moto 360 when you are out of Bluetooth range from your phone.
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http://www.ti.com/product/wl1831mod
Related
I came across THIS APP which led me to THIS HARDWARE
Kinda cool. Expensive though; ~$300
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It's cool. I love to fly.
I saw this a while back but it was only for iOS back then. I'm glad to see them coming over to the dark side. I'm enough of a nerd as to go out and buy this. lol
Edit: Wait, I think they still may only support iPhones.
Edit again: There are apps in the Android market! Time to get on eBay! lol
im planning to get one of these toys
The British Car show Top Gear tested the iPhone version of that in the News Segment of the East America Special.......
http://www.ecrater.com/p/10813807/parrot-ardrone-quadricopter-controlled-by
I have 2 of these (see http://headloaf.co.uk for some stuff I've done with them).
There is already a development thread on ardrone-flyers.com with regards to Android control but I am sure that they will apreciate some input from this community too.
This is a great 'toy' and the community at ardrone-flyers.com are always looking to improve it even more. We've even managed to mount GPS to it and control it using 7ch TX rather than WiFi....loads of fun to be head with these!
It is designed for iOS use buy there are several scripts that can be run on the drone itself (as the drone runs off a linux base) so that it can be controlled via PC/Laptop, Mac, Android - these can all be found on ardrone-flyers.com along with some scripts for object tracking etc.
They are also some similar toys,which are working with bluetooth,even with older mobiles
That's freaking cool!!
Maybe after I pay some bills off and figure out how to pay for a wedding I will revisit this I love to fly RC planes and helicopers and I love playing with my phone so this is 2 awesome things in one!
Cool ... ... one day I'll get my hands on this techie stuff and control using an Android
that is Fking wicked just like the heli i build myself back when i was kid using foam and RC set.
but this is using the PHONE!!!!!!!! as the controller AWEOME!
i wonder how far is the range of those things
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i wonder how far is the range of those things
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Range is 50 meters, but according to this:
http://www.ardrone-flyers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=807
You can stretch that out to 150-200 meters using some hardware and a little good old fashioned ADB.
it is cool cant wait to see some more of your future work
pretty sweet! can't wait to spy on my parents with this.
Even on ebay the price tag on this thing is high in would love to have one but I just don't see spending 300 on this plus parts if you want to mod it out
sent from a EVOlved device modded by the Borg.
Can someone specificy what this means
Play with other users via a Wi-Fi network
Another major feature is the use of several AR.Drone on a network.
Thanks to its own generated Wi-Fi network, players can create a game party where others players can join and play against each other.
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Does this mean it creates a WiFi channel in which the phone connects to so it would work anywhere within the Generated WiFi range, e.g. my giant backyard?
EDIT:
* What type of connection is established between the AR.Drone and the iPhone?
The AR.Drone is connected to the iPhone by an ad hoc Wi-Fi link.
* Do I need a Wi-Fi router to operate my AR.Drone?
No, the AR.Drone creates its own Wi-Fi network. The iPhone(or device) can then connect to it just like with any Wi-Fi network.
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Wow!
I also got one but it`s a pain in the axx to connect them with each other each time. Since Android does not support Ad-Hoc Wireless , we have to trick the AR Drone into Telnet thru your PC.
This means you have to carry a PC/Laptop with you to play with AR DRONE each time you want to turn on your Ar Drone
Kinda sucks ha ?
Read this LINK , this is how I get them to connect to each other .....
Anybody knows any better method to connect them ? I mean how to enable AD HOC on Android , I tried all the methods but none of them worked so far ... Is there an application or something ?
My phones are HTC Desire HD and HTC Incredible S
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Anybody knows any better method to connect them ? I mean how to enable AD HOC on Android , I tried all the methods but none of them worked so far ... Is there an application or something ?
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Well - this thread got me going a couple of days on getting a Drone
But have not found the time / probably won't either ... one thing I did read though is that it is possible to have the AR Drone connect to a WLAN (infrastructure - not adhoc).
It has some limitations concerning the IPs you use and probably security - but perhaps it is less a pain to carry around an extra router with your configured AR-WLAN
Google it - it was not hard to find
This is unrelated to Android but well worth posting.
For those of you in the RC hobby you've got to check out the Blade mCPx
A collective pitch heli with a 245mm rotor.. unreal
Definitely check out some YouTube vids of it, its just awesome. Amazing cp agility.. indoors!
cabrone1 said:
Can someone specificy what this means
Does this mean it creates a WiFi channel in which the phone connects to so it would work anywhere within the Generated WiFi range, e.g. my giant backyard?
EDIT:
Wow!
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My buddy has one and yes it does that. You can also view the on board camera on your evo. And dogfight with other drones. Also you can record video from drone. Pretty cool but 300 is a lot for a toy these days
tim
VIDONN X5 SPORT BRACELET
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Product features:
1. The first smart bracelet with OLED,recording sports data daytime and sleeping data in night to guide healthy living.
2. Host comes with a standard USB port, special design to charge through connecting PC and mobile driver.
3. Designed with IP67 for good waterproof performance.
4. Computers and Android dual-mode synchronous data.Host syncs via wireless bluetooth, also PC via USB
5. Silent vibrate mode will wake you up in the quite morning.
6. It's very slight only 20g and ignore its existence after waring.
7. Supports Bluetooth 4.0 technology, computers and Android dual-mode synchronous data.Host syncs via wireless bluetooth, also PC via USB
8. Upgrade conveniently, exciting features continue to be increased.
Android and PC app: http://www.vidonn.com/en/download.html
Official website: http://www.vidonn.com/en/index.html
List of users:
1.- castleman
2.- ....
And... someone also have this tech-toy?
Ready to mod/hack/trick/update the APK?
Regards
Wrong subforum.
Please admins, remove it.
Thanks
will look further on this accessory
So how do you like it? Is this like Fitbit with OLED display?
I noticed dx.com is selling this VIDONN X5 as well ($41, free shipping), http://www.dx.com/p/vidonn-x5-0-49-...orts-sleep-tracking-black-280219#.UztahLCPL3g - would have been cool to get call/txt/email notifications with it
How much does the battery lasts?
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How much does the battery lasts?
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This looks interesting if we do not have to constantly recharge the watch.
4 days of battery
vectron said:
would have been cool to get call/txt/email notifications with it
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Exactly¡¡¡
We need android programmers to do it.
No one have this sport bracelet too?
castleman said:
No one have this sport bracelet too?
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I do.. Now testing it. The vidonn.apk which I downloaded, does not install on my android phone (with android 4.2).. so.... pretty stupid.
Windows app seems to work with some hickups..
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After creating an account on a windows machine it works.. sort off. It has potential... but software is crap at this point. When you want to look at data of your walk or whatever, you will be send to the website in Chinese... you get some basic stuff like calories burned and walked and the such.
But I wanted it to easily sync by android smartphone app... but with a non working app it can't. ... so it is still a work in progress.
Henkl said:
I do.. Now testing it. The vidonn.apk which I downloaded, does not install on my android phone (with android 4.2).. so.... pretty stupid.
Windows app seems to work with some hickups..
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After creating an account on a windows machine it works.. sort off. It has potential... but software is crap at this point. When you want to look at data of your walk or whatever, you will be send to the website in Chinese... you get some basic stuff like calories burned and walked and the such.
But I wanted it to easily sync by android smartphone app... but with a non working app it can't. ... so it is still a work in progress.
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I believe it needs 4.3 and BT4.0 with BLE.
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I believe it needs 4.3 and BT4.0 with BLE.
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The question remains why it is not "backward" compatible. It easy to dismiss a phone this way that it would not be compatible for a chinese brand..
Henkl said:
The question remains why it is not "backward" compatible. It easy to dismiss a phone this way that it would not be compatible for a chinese brand..
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It works with the iphone 4s btw. Still testing it with the iphone at this moment.
Henkl said:
The question remains why it is not "backward" compatible. It easy to dismiss a phone this way that it would not be compatible for a chinese brand..
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That's Android for you Because of protocol details, a lot of the smartwatch and smartdevices require 4.3 (where android introduced a better notification support and other changes) and also low power 4.0 BLE. And that requirement gets hardcoded without a backward compatibility support
Anyone have any input on how well this works even on android 4.4.2
Anyone knows something about this .
Enviado desde mi GT-N7100 usando Tapatalk
Will be getting it soon so expect a detailed review once I receive and get a chance to play around with it!
windows driver
could someone please upload a driver? i installed the PC app but my device appears as unkown device...
same here.
also my phone does not recognize it (LG G3 Android 4.4) through the official app...
Well bringing this thread back to life. I did buy this from DX. App works on my Zenphone. but no calorie trackers will link to it.
multi day charge step count seems accurate.
Have you heard that Chinese cellphone manufacturer Doogee is able to produce its first wearable device , Doogee S1 smart watch. This smart watch is different with the traditional one , which can complement the fitness features, and it can also track your sports achievement, of course monitor your heart rate. It doesn’t need to be connected to a smart watch.
Why do i say that? You can make calls with a SIM slot to Doogee watch. independently from your phone, and even connect to the internet via 3G networks. We’re still waiting on the full final details but we hope to also see WIFI in the device too.
Check Doogee S1 main features:
Dialer / Bluetooth phone call: Unlike most smart watches, the DOOGEE S1 can independently make / receive phone calls with its own SIM card
Phonebook / call log / message / music sync: Save time: Access notifications quickly on your wrist using smartphone sync
Heart Rate Monitor: DOOGEE S1 is a smartwatch can accurately test your heart rate and closely take care of your body condition
Pedometer: Record the steps you take and count your exercise distance to monitor your fitness
Real Time Weather and Barometer Information: When get connected to network, it will report weather and barometer to give you a considerate remind
Extra Features: Sound recorder, music player, calendar.
By the way, i got the good news that it has been released now. Will you have a try?
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how much is it?
I'm looking for some videos
it costs 144$, i think its a pretty damn good price for that kind of smartwatch
What's the supposed battery life?
hmm its really nice where can i find? more cheap )
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What's the supposed battery life?
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It has 600mAh battery, which can support long time working ! you can have a try, to compare with others.
:fingers-crossed:
FumiJ said:
It has 600mAh battery, which can support long time working ! you can have a try, to compare with others.
:fingers-crossed:
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Seems good, I've a ZGPAX Star something smartwatch, it has 300mAh and lasts 2 days. So 3-4 days with the Doogee s1 would be fine, we'll see!
I'm looking for a descent smartwatch. Would you propose this one, or the more expensive Moto 360? Or even something else.
[email protected] said:
I'm looking for a descent smartwatch. Would you propose this one, or the more expensive Moto 360? Or even something else.
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this is the first time that doogee released Doogee smart watch, it shows wearable device becomes more important in our life.
FumiJ said:
this is the first time that doogee released Doogee smart watch, it shows wearable device becomes more important in our life.
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I trust Doogee as a phone maker, so I guess I would trust them as a watch maker, too. Seems very nice though
this price for a stand-alone android 4.4 watch? very nice. doogee is really bringing the competition, this may be the year smartwatches will become more widespread because of products like this
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this price for a stand-alone android 4.4 watch? very nice. doogee is really bringing the competition, this may be the year smartwatches will become more widespread because of products like this
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Totally agree with you!
DOOGEE S1 Smartwatch (Camera Quality)
Hi
Can you send or show me sample images shot using the DOOGEE S1 ?
To determine the quality of the smartwatch camera
[email protected]
Thanking You
Any update on the status of this watch? Has anyone bought one yet?
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Any update on the status of this watch? Has anyone bought one yet?
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I bought one yesterday, unfortunately it doesn't sync with iPhone waiting to look after a rom! It has a great and easy fully functional android menu, although on every watch face it doesn't show steps n heart rate so you hahave to access them through menu. If you have any other question, do not hesitate to ask me.
In addition to your impressions of the overall build quality of the watch, I'd really like to know if it has the 1900 MHz band as advertised. This is critical to using it as a standalone device in the US. If it has both 850 and 1900, its a game changer in its class.
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I bought one yesterday, unfortunately it doesn't sync with iPhone waiting to look after a rom! It has a great and easy fully functional android menu, although on every watch face it doesn't show steps n heart rate so you hahave to access them through menu. If you have any other question, do not hesitate to ask me.
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It doesn't work at all or just message notifications? I've heard this problem many times on chinese smartwatches, iOS just doesn't allow it.
I bought a cheap huawei mobile phone to sync my doogee smart watch but still it doesn't get any notification, it works standalone.. However it says that is waterproof ip67, yesterday when I was cleaning the dishes its screen flashed white twice, and from then it doesn't work at all.. I suggest you not to buy it
I'm sorry for your loss. I assume you're going to request a replacement? Keep us posted...
stavros_f said:
I bought a cheap huawei mobile phone to sync my doogee smart watch but still it doesn't get any notification, it works standalone.. However it says that is waterproof ip67, yesterday when I was cleaning the dishes its screen flashed white twice, and from then it doesn't work at all.. I suggest you not to buy it
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Glad i found this i was about to buy one. Anyone know of any good smartwatch that have notification and run 4.4?
Hello,
can somebody share original picture of this bracelet iWOWN i6 PRO or some review?
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Orig..._1&btsid=2fca6f4d-283c-4eaf-8d99-e70a2e79686c
I just ordered this on 30/08/2016! but it has not yet been sent
when I get give feedback
Received today first pictures!
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Thanks for the pictures! Please do let us know what you think of it after you use it for sometime.
Are the HR monitor and sleep monitor accurate ?
I think there was a technical problem
nunorfa got an electrical shock instead and died
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I think there was a technical problem
nunorfa got an electrical shock instead and died
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I hope you are kidding.
I am using this smartband since 2 weeks. I am not able to say if distances, steps or calories are accurate. Battery lasts 6 days more or less.
I would like to ask a question to others that uses the app iWOWNfit (iphone) : there is a goal setting section in the app, where you can insert the sport activities you'll probably perform during the week, this activities never complete themselves, even if I start the activity manually by the band Training section. If someone uses it please give me some hint.
Bye.
Hello
In the description of the product was the information about the remote control camera. Does anyone know where is this option?
marcinsu said:
Hello
In the description of the product was the information about the remote control camera. Does anyone know where is this option?
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Hi,
didn't find that too. Also didn't find an option to turn off heart rate monitor to save power.
Maybe in one of the next firmware versions...
ftomek said:
Hi,
didn't find that too. Also didn't find an option to turn off heart rate monitor to save power.
Maybe in one of the next firmware versions...
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So easy. Go to IwownFit app and press Record
Hi everyone,
Juste ordered mine and and I'm guessing if it is possible to change the wrist band.
Anyone tried that ?
terisse said:
Hi everyone,
Juste ordered mine and and I'm guessing if it is possible to change the wrist band.
Anyone tried that ?
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It is no official way for that. But I had no reports about need to change it.
order one and can't wait to try it out.
i can read the arabic message
Recently got the band, overall it's good, measures everything correctly. Unfortunately the app is horrible, drains the battery and is nearly useless. Even though the band itself records the sleep, steps and heart rate 24/7, the app has no way to show the previous day's recordings on the sleep and heart rate. Calories target on the app seems useless, if the band goes out of range - it doesn't reconnect to the app.
try the english mod of the latest Chinese app (zeroner health 4.0)...It's a lot better...
http://www.mediafire.com/?qcejvc1pw4cq3gp
Yes, translated Zeroner 4 and IwOwnfit 4 much better, but chinese software sucks at all I'm waiting for full support of this band by this app:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ru.wilix.device.geekbracelet
For now it lacks some functionality but works much better: only controller sending data to GoogleFit, not duplicating GF features.
I cannot make it work...It scans for the device (i6 pro) but cannot find it....
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Maybe Iwown for Geek is not implemented for I6 pro?
Cuttlas said:
I cannot make it work...It scans for the device (i6 pro) but cannot find it....
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Maybe Iwown for Geek is not implemented for I6 pro?
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Maybe, your band is already connected to other app like zeroner?
Which Broadcom GPS receiver will be used on S9x ?
Is it the same BCM4774 like on older models, or the new dual-frequency L1/L5 BCM4775x ?
I still can't find the exact spec, but what they're showing doesn't look promising. the GPS "spec" from the marketing gibberish is exactly the same as that from the S8:
Location (GPS, Galileo, Glonass, BeiDou)
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http://www.samsung.com/global/galaxy/galaxy-s9/specs/
http://www.samsung.com/global/galaxy/galaxy-s8/specs/
I was wondering about this too lol
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the GPS "spec" from the marketing gibberish is exactly the same as that from the S8
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The marketing people never (can) provide any usable technical information.
Even google people give you a pretty useless device table at https://developer.android.com/guide/topics/sensors/gnss.html
although they certainly know better: all phones with 'yes' in "Accumulated delta range" use BCM4774, and support Galileo (excluding Nexus 9 in the last row, which uses special firmware and has an older Broadcom chipset).
I hope somebody will do a hardware teardown, or will enable debugging log options in gpsconfig.xml on a rooted S9x
IMHO, the chances for BCM4775x are pretty slim, but let's hope for the better.
OK, just pre-ordered . Is there a way other than rooting I (or teardown!) that I can use to determine the GPS chip? If it's not the BCM4775 I'll probably just turn around and sell it prior to activation and don't want to mess it up too much
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OK, just pre-ordered . Is there a way other than rooting I (or teardown!) that I can use to determine the GPS chip? If it's not the BCM4775 I'll probably just turn around and sell it prior to activation and don't want to mess it up too much
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Is that dual frequency thing really that important? What's about it that makes it so important?
Poor man's surveying equipment.
I have some rough land surveying to do (and potentially re-do over several iterations marking different boundaries) and the current ~10m range of accuracy doesn't cut it, while the ~10cm on the dual frequency chip would suffice. No, that is not my sole reason to consider an upgrade (as well it shouldn't be), but factored with everything else it pushes it over the edge. If it doesn't, I'll just wait until my S7 totally poops the bed in another year or so.
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Poor man's surveying equipment.
I have some rough land surveying to do (and potentially re-do over several iterations marking different boundaries) and the current ~10m range of accuracy doesn't cut it, while the ~10cm on the dual frequency chip would suffice. No, that is not my sole reason to consider an upgrade (as well it shouldn't be), but factored with everything else it pushes it over the edge. If it doesn't, I'll just wait until my S7 totally poops the bed in another year or so.
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I usually get 6m of accuracy tho 10cm would be nice haha.
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Is there a way other than rooting I (or teardown!) that I can use to determine the GPS chip?
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The only non-invasive way is to install this APK
https://github.com/google/gps-measurement-tools/releases/tag/2.0.0.1
and check the logs for L5 pseudoranges et al.
This approach is not that reliable as teardown | rooting, and can provide a false negative result.
It's dual carrier. 4755
Extracted this from S9 firmware
Edit: it seems like it's disabled tho. No CM accuracy
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white7561 said:
It's dual carrier. 4755
Extracted this from S9 firmware
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Wow. And the a*holes keep quiet about it, damn marketing people
Maybe one needs to upload some firmware patch for L5/E5 to work properly.
Where can i look at the gpsd binary ?
Edit: it seems like it's disabled tho.
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On the rooted phone you can edit gps.xml and enable the dual-frequency operation. I have written about it in Huawei Mate 9 GPS thread.
white7561 said:
It's dual carrier. 4755
Extracted this from S9 firmware
Edit: it seems like it's disabled tho. No CM accuracy
View attachment 4438060
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Great, thanks!! I guess I shouldn't get too pedantic, but Broadcom is calling this the BCM47755...should we just concede that this chip shows up as 4755 in firmware?
I can't decipher where in that xml it's saying it's disabled, but does it stand to reason that enabling this could come from a software update from samsung and/or verizon? i.e. I should keep the S9 once it arrives and they hope for the best??
Thanks!!!
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I can't decipher where in that xml it's saying it's disabled,
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This is the Broadcom enum for possible multifrequency modes:
Code:
GL_MULTI_CARR_RF_MODE_UNKNOWN
GL_MULTI_CARR_RF_MODE_L1
GL_MULTI_CARR_RF_MODE_L1_L5
GL_MULTI_CARR_RF_MODE_L1_LP
GL_MULTI_CARR_RF_MODE_L1_L5_LP
GL_MULTI_CARR_RF_MODE_L1_L2_L5
GL_MULTI_CARR_RF_MODE_L1_NN
L1L5
L1LP
L1L5LP
L1L2L5
L1NN
L1_EXT_ON
L5_EXT_ON
It is also interesting that they still stick to the 'rtistatus3.dat' for RTIconfig, which does not support Galileo. You can use rtistatus4.dat available from Broadcom site to fix that.
cr2 said:
Wow. And the a*holes keep quiet about it, damn marketing people
Maybe one needs to upload some firmware patch for L5/E5 to work properly.
Where can i look at the gpsd binary ?
On the rooted phone you can edit gps.xml and enable the dual-frequency operation. I have written about it in Huawei Mate 9 GPS thread.
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It's on the GPS.xml file. I've deleted the whole system.img tho. So I can't open it anymore
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This is the Broadcom enum for possible multifrequency modes:
Code:
GL_MULTI_CARR_RF_MODE_UNKNOWN
GL_MULTI_CARR_RF_MODE_L1
GL_MULTI_CARR_RF_MODE_L1_L5
GL_MULTI_CARR_RF_MODE_L1_LP
GL_MULTI_CARR_RF_MODE_L1_L5_LP
GL_MULTI_CARR_RF_MODE_L1_L2_L5
GL_MULTI_CARR_RF_MODE_L1_NN
L1L5
L1LP
L1L5LP
L1L2L5
L1NN
L1_EXT_ON
L5_EXT_ON
It is also interesting that they still stick to the 'rtistatus3.dat' for RTIconfig, which does not support Galileo. You can use rtistatus4.dat available from Broadcom site to fix that.
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Yeah interesting
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The only non-invasive way is to install this APK
https://github.com/google/gps-measurement-tools/releases/tag/2.0.0.1
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If you already have the phone, please install this APK and tell me if the 'Galileo Navigation Messages' are being logged. They do not work on S8 and Huawei phones (all using Broadcom BCM4774).
cr2 said:
If you already have the phone, please install this APK and tell me if the 'Galileo Navigation Messages' are being logged. They do not work on S8 and Huawei phones (all using Broadcom BCM4774).
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I have a pre-order. Supposedly ships on the 16th, so I'll have it a day or two after that and I'll give this a whirl.
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I have a pre-order.
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Thanks. Finally we have a real innovation in the smartphones, and not just a plastic cover color change ! +1 for Samsung.
cr2 said:
If you already have the phone, please install this APK and tell me if the 'Galileo Navigation Messages' are being logged. They do not work on S8 and Huawei phones (all using Broadcom BCM4774).
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Not to be offense, but how could tell the new S9 would be using BCM4775X family?
According to Broadcom webpage, are there any chances that BCM4755 would be some kind of OEM product between BCM4752 & BCM4774? Are there any apps that can log / indicate that uses L5 channel? Thanks.
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If you already have the phone, please install this APK and tell me if the 'Galileo Navigation Messages' are being logged. They do not work on S8 and Huawei phones (all using Broadcom BCM4774).
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Welp, this is discouraging:
12. ~ adam22 2018-02-25 23:09:34 host: 77,111,244,47
Samsung S9 does not have Broadcom BCM47755. This information is 100% reliable. Only in S10 will they give the BCM47755 chip.
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from the comments on this link (hooray for google translate!)
źródło: http://www.telepolis.pl/wiadomosci/samsung-galaxy-s9-w-benchmarku-antutu,2,3,41516.html
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źródło: http://www.telepolis.pl/wiadomosci/samsung-galaxy-s9-w-benchmarku-antutu,2,3,41516.html
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I will wait for the first real hardware teardown.