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Brand new G4 (H815L) performance issues

Hey fellas!
Just got a new G4 to replace my Nexus 5, and I'm encountering some heavily disappointing performance issues like:
poor 3D performance - games like Boom Beach and Smash Hit run just... bad. mediocre/low fps gaming, where my Nexus 5 did perfectly fine!
2D performance (UI) - sometimes laggy UI transitions, typing really quick with SwiftKey keyboard is impossible, it's like the phone can't keep up with what I'm clicking fast, feels majorly laggy.
Anything I'm missing? and low performance/battery saving settings I'm missing? what's happening... oO

NuclearBastard said:
Hey fellas!
Just got a new G4 to replace my Nexus 5, and I'm encountering some heavily disappointing performance issues like:
poor 3D performance - games like Boom Beach and Smash Hit run just... bad. mediocre/low fps gaming, where my Nexus 5 did perfectly fine!
2D performance (UI) - sometimes laggy UI transitions, typing really quick with SwiftKey keyboard is impossible, it's like the phone can't keep up with what I'm clicking fast, feels majorly laggy.
Anything I'm missing? and low performance/battery saving settings I'm missing? what's happening... oO
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There's an option somewhere to lower graphics in games to save battery...its on by default...at least on h811 it is...also in dev options changing all animations to .5 or off fixes any laggy experience

Thanks, seems to help a bit, but it's right on the fine line between actually helping and just a placebo.
I mean, some really visually simple games (Smash Hit) shouldn't run with such low fps, especially not when considering the Nexus 5 ran it perfect.
What about the rest of the UI?
I suspect that some of the problems I'm having with SwiftKey are software related (might not be optimized for G4 yet?), since I'm noticing some other unrelated performance bugs in it; emailed that to them.

I got H815L myself and it's pretty good.
What's your Antutu score?

Personal experience with Swiftkey is it isn't optimised very well at all and only runs properly with a handfull of phones if at all. I gave up on it a long time ago.
As for UI performance, I haven't noticed any lag yet. Games run great too.
I would point the finger at the Apps you're using and make sure you've updated the software on the phone to the latest version.
The nexus phones feel less laggy because the transition animations are so slooooow just like on iphones, and it's just there to hide any lag as it takes so long to open and close the apps.
You'll get used to G4 I have no doubt

jamesd1085 said:
There's an option somewhere to lower graphics in games to save battery...its on by default...at least on h811 it is...also in dev options changing all animations to .5 or off fixes any laggy experience
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Jonathan-H said:
Personal experience with Swiftkey is it isn't optimised very well at all and only runs properly with a handfull of phones if at all. I gave up on it a long time ago.
As for UI performance, I haven't noticed any lag yet. Games run great too.
I would point the finger at the Apps you're using and make sure you've updated the software on the phone to the latest version.
The nexus phones feel less laggy because the transition animations are so slooooow just like on iphones, and it's just there to hide any lag as it takes so long to open and close the apps.
You'll get used to G4 I have no doubt
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I got 49081 on Antutu, and I'm running v10H and all my apps are updated.
I do suspect it's the keyboard app itself messing around with me, because I see several more bugs except for the weird latency.
And just for comparison, the game Smash Hit (on HIGH set on graphics) runs choppy with a Nexus 5 running it perfectly.
I know and understand Android, but why do I need to get a new $500+ phone with new hardware only to find out my 2 years older phone is more "optimized"?

NuclearBastard said:
Hey fellas!
Just got a new G4 to replace my Nexus 5, and I'm encountering some heavily disappointing performance issues like:
poor 3D performance - games like Boom Beach and Smash Hit run just... bad. mediocre/low fps gaming, where my Nexus 5 did perfectly fine!
2D performance (UI) - sometimes laggy UI transitions, typing really quick with SwiftKey keyboard is impossible, it's like the phone can't keep up with what I'm clicking fast, feels majorly laggy.
Anything I'm missing? and low performance/battery saving settings I'm missing? what's happening... oO
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Not missing anything. Is called lg g4.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N920A

oh thanks bro.
most helpful reply of the week.

NuclearBastard said:
I got 49081 on Antutu, and I'm running v10H and all my apps are updated.
I do suspect it's the keyboard app itself messing around with me, because I see several more bugs except for the weird latency.
And just for comparison, the game Smash Hit (on HIGH set on graphics) runs choppy with a Nexus 5 running it perfectly.
I know and understand Android, but why do I need to get a new $500+ phone with new hardware only to find out my 2 years older phone is more "optimized"?
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Man idk...maybe some bloat or config issue but i installed smash hit(never played til you mentioned it so thanks for giving me a new addiction)and it ran smooth even on high graphics...my h811 has same hardware and my antutu was much higher...my g4 has been my favorite device since my g2...the g3 was a pile and i hated it...you will have to check out whats clogging up your processing...something isn't right...if all else fails try backing up data and factory reset...many have reported this to solve many issues good luck!

jamesd1085 said:
Man idk...maybe some bloat or config issue but i installed smash hit(never played til you mentioned it so thanks for giving me a new addiction)and it ran smooth even on high graphics...my h811 has same hardware and my antutu was much higher...my g4 has been my favorite device since my g2...the g3 was a pile and i hated it...you will have to check out whats clogging up your processing...something isn't right...if all else fails try backing up data and factory reset...many have reported this to solve many issues good luck!
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Weird that you got 50k+ on antutu, most of the reviews I Google's were about 41k+.
How can I check what's choking the device?
I have nothing special installed; opened the box, turned the phone on, updated the latest OTA and then all my apps - games and some other stuff but nothing heavy that I didn't have on my N5...
Maybe I'll try to factory reset the phone some day next week and see the results.

NuclearBastard said:
Weird that you got 50k+ on antutu, most of the reviews I Google's were about 41k+.
How can I check what's choking the device?
I have nothing special installed; opened the box, turned the phone on, updated the latest OTA and then all my apps - games and some other stuff but nothing heavy that I didn't have on my N5...
Maybe I'll try to factory reset the phone some day next week and see the results.
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Download a wakelock detector or something to see whats stayin active that isn't necessary...also are you rooted...if not you may want to do that...it will allow you to freeze and remove unnecessary and memory hogging apps and will give you a boost...i got rid of a lot of those day 1 and have had a great experience with my g4...we shouldn't have to do this to get the best out of this device but its the way android has gone...also with root you can try ctt mod and other performance boosters to really get the best experience...you can also get better battery life without the extra junk processes running in the back...there are many threads to teach you what can be done with the g4

jamesd1085 said:
Man idk...maybe some bloat or config issue but i installed smash hit(never played til you mentioned it so thanks for giving me a new addiction)and it ran smooth even on high graphics...my h811 has same hardware and my antutu was much higher...my g4 has been my favorite device since my g2...the g3 was a pile and i hated it...you will have to check out whats clogging up your processing...something isn't right...if all else fails try backing up data and factory reset...many have reported this to solve many issues good luck!
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jamesd1085 said:
Download a wakelock detector or something to see whats stayin active that isn't necessary...also are you rooted...if not you may want to do that...it will allow you to freeze and remove unnecessary and memory hogging apps and will give you a boost...i got rid of a lot of those day 1 and have had a great experience with my g4...we shouldn't have to do this to get the best out of this device but its the way android has gone...also with root you can try ctt mod and other performance boosters to really get the best experience...you can also get better battery life without the extra junk processes running in the back...there are many threads to teach you what can be done with the g4
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Yeah, I pretty much know most of the basics of all the advanced tweaking, but since I have H815L the bootloader is locked, so rooting it is a bit pain in the ass.
Someday next week I'll just factory reset it and check again.
Thanks bud!

well ok.
Just did a factory reset and... Nothing.
So friggin disappointing, im completely clueless now.
right when the phone started up (completely blank after reset), downloaded and installed Boom Beach and Smash Hit, and the performance was still bad. Im so annoyed.
What the hell should i do? Why is my BRAND NEW phone is having poor 3D performance?

NuclearBastard said:
well ok.
Just did a factory reset and... Nothing.
So friggin disappointing, im completely clueless now.
right when the phone started up (completely blank after reset), downloaded and installed Boom Beach and Smash Hit, and the performance was still bad. Im so annoyed.
What the hell should i do? Why is my BRAND NEW phone is having poor 3D performance?
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Root it and bump up lower clock speed on big/little cores with kernel audiutor...it will reduce lag and actually save battery as small processes cause it to jump around a lot on factory settings...short of doing this idk...

NuclearBastard said:
Weird that you got 50k+ on antutu,
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It means his device is running cooler than yours. He mentioned some tweaks to keep heat down.
There is also the CTT mod (in development)but it requires root.
most of the reviews I Google's were about 41k+.
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Actually i just checked 3 different reviews and the avg antutue score for the G4 is 49k. if you run antutu back to back 3-4 times it will drop to 44k. If it wont rise above 45k then it indicates a heating device with throttling.
How can I check what's choking the device?
I have nothing special installed; opened the box, turned the phone on, updated the latest OTA and then all my apps - games and some other stuff but nothing heavy that I didn't have on my N5...
Maybe I'll try to factory reset the phone some day next week and see the results.
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How is your battery life in general sot/run time ?
can you try playing your games in a low light environment. So your brightness will be much lower. Do you notice any difference ?

I've had the phone for a total of about 4 days now, SOT seems about 3-4 hours, better than my N5 so I'm happy so far.
Tried gaming with low light / cold environments, doesn't seem to change anything.
Not sure about the throttling, due to the fact that the device is actually pretty cold... not sensing any extreme heat (my N5 was way hotter).
After that factory reset I get about 48k on Antutu, and I actually tried two different "heavy" games (NOVA3 and Asphalt 8) and they run OK...
I genuinely have no idea what's the problem, so instead of rooting and tweaking stuff that seem to not have to be tweaked for others, I'll just wait till I get back home and compare the gaming performance with friends' devices.
If something goes wrong - warranty it is.

Man, I feel you! Been dealing with laggy UI and cursing my choice of purchase since day one. Anyways..
For games - have you disabled 'Game Optimzer' option from 'Battery & Power Saving'?
For laggy UI - Swiftkey is laggy as ****. So try Fleksy, it's a LOT smoother, I barely notice any lag (although it does hiccup once in a while...). As for general performance, you have to accept that some animations will be choppy - that's just how LG UI works, there is no work around. For me the phone was chugging a lot before I uninstalled Inbox by Gmail, after that the phone regained it's speed and it's pretty damn smooth now. It still stutters here and there but ...what to do. Also try delobating it and removing any unnecessary apps and services (you don't need to root for this).

OK so some updates.
Rooted the phone, debloated the s**t out of it, even managed to got to 5h 2m screen-on time with that lol.
Tried to tweak lots of other things as wellwell, got me some great bootloops in the process. eventually I practically totally wiped the system and flashed a 100% clean one.
Smash hit (on High setting in graphics) and Boom Beach still work a bit choppy.
NOVA3 seems to work ok.
AnTuTu is about 50.5k.
I seriously can't figure out what's the problem.
the 2d phone UI seems almost perfect, and the benchmark score seems OK.
What the hell could be wrong?
Is there any more testing (games/benchmarks/logs) I could do to try and figure this out?
It's going to take me another week till I go back to my country to check with a different H815L. Asked a friend with the US model, she claims Smash Hit works flawlessly fluid. can't understand that.
I find it funny, the fact that I might ask for an under-under-warrenty device replacement just because couple of games run bad.
Hoping the XDA gods would help me in some way, before heading the noob warranty-for-nothing route.
Thanks!

NuclearBastard said:
OK so some updates.
Rooted the phone, debloated the s**t out of it, even managed to got to 5h 2m screen-on time with that lol.
Tried to tweak lots of other things as wellwell, got me some great bootloops in the process. eventually I practically totally wiped the system and flashed a 100% clean one.
Smash hit (on High setting in graphics) and Boom Beach still work a bit choppy.
NOVA3 seems to work ok.
AnTuTu is about 50.5k.
I seriously can't figure out what's the problem.
the 2d phone UI seems almost perfect, and the benchmark score seems OK.
What the hell could be wrong?
Is there any more testing (games/benchmarks/logs) I could do to try and figure this out?
It's going to take me another week till I go back to my country to check with a different H815L. Asked a friend with the US model, she claims Smash Hit works flawlessly fluid. can't understand that.
I find it funny, the fact that I might ask for an under-under-warrenty device replacement just because couple of games run bad.
Hoping the XDA gods would help me in some way, before heading the noob warranty-for-nothing route.
Thanks!
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Dude i has the g4 H815L and it is works fine but maybe it becouse the root.
I has the device for few months with stock version of lg and my g4 works very good and when i play games like Goat Simulator he got hot if not very hot but if your device don't get hot becouse of games so for sure you won't get high preformance.
Plus my bettery works fine and my phone can work perfectly and smothly with smart watch and survive one day with out any problames.

NuclearBastard said:
OK so some updates.
Rooted the phone, debloated the s**t out of it, even managed to got to 5h 2m screen-on time with that lol.
Tried to tweak lots of other things as wellwell, got me some great bootloops in the process. eventually I practically totally wiped the system and flashed a 100% clean one.
Smash hit (on High setting in graphics) and Boom Beach still work a bit choppy.
NOVA3 seems to work ok.
AnTuTu is about 50.5k.
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Every CPU (SoC) is unique. Remember, even two identical CPUs can deliver different benchmark results, thus have different real world performance. Unless there's a software issue you haven't found out about yet, it's also likely that you just got a bad one.
NuclearBastard said:
Hoping the XDA gods would help me in some way, before heading the noob warranty-for-nothing route.
Thanks!
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Don't even hesitate. You paid for it hard earned money under the condition that it works as stated and advertised by LG. Now, as you told us, it does not. See my point?

Overheating --> Network/Device Lag? Marshmallow, M9

I know my way around Android well enough I could probably teach a class. I've been excited for the Marshmallow update for my Verizon M9, mostly for the security update. Now I've got it, and udderly hate it. Not only is this marshmallow über soft and squishy, it's somehow managed to swallow the majority of my CPU--much like BOB from Monsters vs Aliens. Actually, the update is more like BOB than a delicious couple of calories. Tremendous lag from god knows where, constant freezing and other **** when in hpm--whether it be plugged in or not--which often crashes apps altogether or causes a reboot, keyboard latency of about 1.5seconds, network disconnecting when the device exceeds 120℉, ooh!, and the cherry on top: loss of data. I use my phone for both business/class-related stuff and for gaming/pleasure(shh, creeps) because I'm too broke to buy anything else. The front-facing speakers get glitcy and doing that pausing crap like when you drive outta radio range in a car. This was never a problem with Lollipop, but is making Android a living hell to deal with. MHL has yet to work on Marshmallow, and instead simply crashes the phone. Again. Can't find ANYthing ANYwhere about this. Both Verizon and HTC are refusing to talk to me directly about it; keep getting passed to the next rep, who tries to put me through their template of troubleshooting steps. Wiping cache partition worked...for all of ten minutes. If that. HTC wants to take my phone for two weeks, which won't work due to classes.
Full stock M9. I use App Mgr III for new moving apps quickly, App Cache Cleaner because I'm lazy, and Greenify to kill some stuff that I've got, e.g., Ingress, Skype, snapchat. Greenify does NOT allow killing of bloatware/pre-installed crap, so let me tape the mouths of those twits shut now. Most pre-installed apps, including all but two of the Verizon things, are disabled.
The game I notice the most trouble on is Walking War Robots, can't tell if it has to do with graphics or the processor itself. Chrome browser is quite laggy; Drive is almost unresponsive as is Docs; have lost quite a bit of data from Microsoft Word, both saved and documents being worked on. Reception is also quite a bit worse with the Marshmallow update, calls being dropped more frequently and location often having trouble pinpointing me on high-accuracy.
As I do NOT have a computer, reseting the device is not an option. The recaptcha thingy took almost 30 seconds to load; on Lollipop, they took less than five.

I fully agree with you. My experience with marshmallow has only been negative so far.
1) Incredibly Laggy. Back in the day, installing a kitkat or lollipop rom, the phone would be super fluid and would only slightly lag when installing the 50 apps. God forbid when I was installing marshmallow it seriously hung like 5 seconds and was going at maximum 10fps.
2) Heat. The phone appears to get even warmer now. How is that even possible?
3) Battery Life. My battery appears to be 10% worse. I used to only charge it at night but now I have to charge it after work around 8pm.
I do have some hope though. I'm waiting for Neo or Santod to compile a debloated rom and hoping that clears up these issues.

I was experiencing terrible lag, it seems to be settling down now. I was overheating, but that seems to have settled as well. Biggest problem is that I'm only charging at 550mA with a 2A quick charger. That's new, and totally unacceptable. Also, HTC emojis are gone. All I have are the stupid jellybean/potato looking guys and I can't decipher which emotion they are trying to relay. Chics dig emojis, and here I am feeling emoji blind.
Edit: Lag is still terrible

In the same boat.. this update is not good. This phone is so laggy and slow now it's like my OG Droid 1 from years ago. Cleared cache after installing.. waited the obligatory 45 minutes to rebuild stuff. Uninstalled the bloatware I could and it literally took minutes to do a simple uninstall. Hasn't got any better in the last day at all. If it doesn't get better in the next day or two I'll have to go back to Lollipop. This is probably the most buggy, laggy, battery killing Android update I've seen on any of my Android phones since Droid 1 days. Anyone else getting this or know of any kind of fix? I just can't imagine HTC and VZW pushed this out if problems like these are a common occurrence.

I FIGURED IT OUT GUYS?!!
So ViperROM just put out version 4.3.0.
I always thought ViperROM was some weird bloated ROM with weird features so i never gave it a go, but its basically a slimmed down HTC SENSE with a small amount of tweaks. My phone is BUTTERY smooth now. =)

Yeah, I've thought about pulling the trigger w/ Venom rom but I wanted to stay just stock rooted on my M9. If you install viper rom do you have to factory reset? I just despise doing that so much and don't want to if I don't have to. If it doesn't get better in the next day or two, I'll probably give viper a go with a full wipe.
On a side note, is this a fairly common issue with this update and the M9?? Some are saying in the other thread theirs is nice and smooth.

I was having many heat/lag issues as described above when I flashed the zip dirty or clean. I had to do a RUU with the MM update. Now it's super smooth. Still get lots of heat when the system is booting up for the first time/settling in. But after that, no issues.

how is everyone's battery with this? Mine is absolutely horrible! Just this morning sitting here.. 3 hours, down to 78% already and haven't even done anything very intensive with it. Few messages on Whatsapp, texts, a picture. This phone sucks right now. Yesterday only lasted about 10 hours with normal use. Before I would get at least a normal day out of it without worrying. What the hell is going on with MM that is sucking the life out of this phone?

baune7 said:
Yeah, I've thought about pulling the trigger w/ Venom rom but I wanted to stay just stock rooted on my M9. If you install viper rom do you have to factory reset? I just despise doing that so much and don't want to if I don't have to. If it doesn't get better in the next day or two, I'll probably give viper a go with a full wipe.
On a side note, is this a fairly common issue with this update and the M9?? Some are saying in the other thread theirs is nice and smooth.
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Yea you will have to root. The thing is, Venom is literally a STOCK rooted M9 that has all bloat cut away and 1 small app for additional features (like changing status bar and power button for flashlight.). It is well worth it.
baune7 said:
how is everyone's battery with this? Mine is absolutely horrible! Just this morning sitting here.. 3 hours, down to 78% already and haven't even done anything very intensive with it. Few messages on Whatsapp, texts, a picture. This phone sucks right now. Yesterday only lasted about 10 hours with normal use. Before I would get at least a normal day out of it without worrying. What the hell is going on with MM that is sucking the life out of this phone?
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Try Venom Rom. I had so many issues with Verizon MM that I gave up on it.

im_high_tech said:
Try Venom Rom. I had so many issues with Verizon MM that I gave up on it.
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I've also had better luck with Venom. I just flashed it about 8 hours ago but the lag is gone (so far). Charging on a quick charger still sucks. Haven't been able to gauge battery life yet. No overheating.
Update: My battery is discharging at -1650mA.

mcampos7 said:
I've also had better luck with Venom. I just flashed it about 8 hours ago but the lag is gone (so far). Charging on a quick charger still sucks. Haven't been able to gauge battery life yet. No overheating.
Update: My battery is discharging at -1650mA.
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Keep checking. It shouldn't be discharging that much unless your tethering on full brightness

im_high_tech said:
Keep checking. It shouldn't be discharging that much unless your tethering on full brightness
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It spikes and dips. On average it drains around around 600-800mA. No tethering, 50% brightness. Never had this issue til M. Crazy.

mcampos7 said:
It spikes and dips. On average it drains around around 600-800mA. No tethering, 50% brightness. Never had this issue til M. Crazy.
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I just tested mine on Venom and with around 25 percent brightness using Facebook on WiFi I'm getting 250mA drain MAX
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I'm also on the elemental kernel

im_high_tech said:
I just tested mine on Venom and with around 25 percent brightness using Facebook on WiFi I'm getting 250mA drain MAX
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-450mA atm using xda app & hangouts
Now -60
-320

Anyone having problems after the stock VERIZON MM OTA needs to do a FACTORY RESET.
Sent from my HTC One_M8 using XDA Free mobile app

I can barely get my phone to charge. I'm going back to L. If I nand back, do I need to flash 5.1 firmware or isn't hate covered in the nand?

c5satellite2 said:
Anyone having problems after the stock VERIZON MM OTA needs to do a FACTORY RESET.
Sent from my HTC One_M8 using XDA Free mobile app
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This.
Guys, I finally did do the factory reset despite how much I hate having to do that. From both inside android, and from within TWRP just to be sure. It made the world of difference. I know having to re-install and set up all your apps is a huge pain the ass, but it seriously made a huge difference. Mine lasted 1 day, 13 hours with my typical usage and was still at like 9-10% I think when I re-charged it. Everything is back to working really smooth, no lag, and no heating issues. Something left over from before doesn't play nice at all with the new ROM. Hope this might help if you guys decide to stay on stock.

4.3 Request
im_high_tech said:
I FIGURED IT OUT GUYS?!!
So ViperROM just put out version 4.3.0.
I always thought ViperROM was some weird bloated ROM with weird features so i never gave it a go, but its basically a slimmed down HTC SENSE with a small amount of tweaks. My phone is BUTTERY smooth now. =)
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Question i have went to the Viper website and i can not find the 4.3 rom just able to download 4.2 please tell me where am i going wrong thanks?

c5satellite2 said:
Anyone having problems after the stock VERIZON MM OTA needs to do a FACTORY RESET.
Sent from my HTC One_M8 using XDA Free mobile app
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Mmmm, but my original post was about the M9. Not the M8. They're similar, but the M8 has a superior processor. Imo it'd be amaz to have my custom (and unfortunately shattered) M8's processors and RAM in my M9. Fix all these issues. But, alas.....
baune7 said:
This.
Guys, I finally did do the factory reset despite how much I hate having to do that. From both inside android, and from within TWRP just to be sure. It made the world of difference. I know having to re-install and set up all your apps is a huge pain the ass, but it seriously made a huge difference. Mine lasted 1 day, 13 hours with my typical usage and was still at like 9-10% I think when I re-charged it. Everything is back to working really smooth, no lag, and no heating issues. Something left over from before doesn't play nice at all with the new ROM. Hope this might help if you guys decide to stay on stock.
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In scale, that prolly equates to about 70% of my normal day, minus gaming. Right now I'm getting through about 30% of my day, minus gaming, before needing a charge. Even with QC, charging takes about 40% longer than it did on Lollipop.
Still neither factory reset nor rooting is an option, as I have nothing to back my stuff up on. No, the local library isn't kind enough to me for that lol.

Snoopy679 said:
Question i have went to the Viper website and i can not find the 4.3 rom just able to download 4.2 please tell me where am i going wrong thanks?
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https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24421527759884409

Cool as the other side of the pillow...

I'm not sure where else to put this (I searched and found nothing) but has anyone else been impressed by this phones ability to remain cool to the touch? I'm using the stock case that came with the US variant of the phone and aside from an APN issue where signals were going insane and the radio tried to connect to a billion different towers, I have not once noticed the phone getting much above ambient temperature.
Is this normal? Can anyone else confirm that this thing just doesn't get hot?
I'm bringing this up because I've owned/used around 30 different smartphones from all of the major manufacturers and the vast majority get quite warm during several normal tasks.
For instance, on most phones I've used, if the brightness is up and I'm gaming for any extended period of time the phone will get quite warm. If I'm charging and browsing the web, most phones will warm right up. If I'm gaming and charging at the same time, things get toasty. If I'm gaming and quickcharging/turbocharging things get pretty bad. If I'm gaming on a "practically magic" iPhone while it's charging- forget about it. Same goes for most phones and video recording.
The Le Pro 3 has remained completely usable during all of those tasks. It's actually downright creepy being able to heavily game on full brightness while quickcharging without my fingertip being on fire within a few minutes.

rushtest4echo said:
I'm not sure where else to put this (I searched and found nothing) but has anyone else been impressed by this phones ability to remain cool to the touch? I'm using the stock case that came with the US variant of the phone and aside from an APN issue where signals were going insane and the radio tried to connect to a billion different towers, I have not once noticed the phone getting much above ambient temperature.
Is this normal? Can anyone else confirm that this thing just doesn't get hot?
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This is supposed to be the benefit of the Snapdragon 821 processor; fast but at the same time power efficient....

I hear you. Playing Pokemon Go with a Pro 3 is smooth and cool, I can say that playing for about 10 minutes straight and it gets warm, but not hot. Unlike playing it with my One Plus One, a 5 minute session and it gets hot. This phone totally surprised me :good:
Sent from my LeEco Le Pro3 using XDA Labs

suhridkhan said:
This is supposed to be the benefit of the Snapdragon 821 processor; fast but at the same time power efficient....
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Obviously they've made strides, but its not just the chipset. Reviews of the pixel, ZTE and Asus 821 phone all mention how the 821 is better than 820 (lol, as in it can't cook an egg) but they all say it gets warm and the pixels seem to have significant heat issues.
The battery isn't getting massively hot even under quick charge despite being enormous and charging very quickly for its size. The screen doesn't seem to emit much heat either though it's not some AMOLED qhd monster but still. I mean it's obvious that the CPU is right below the fingerprint reader as it does get warm but nothing even gets what I'd consider hot especially for a modern flagshipish smartphone.
I've used supposedly power sipping/efficient chipset before as well as stuff like the original moto x which was literally a heat bomb and none of them have done so well. I'm sure it's not the actual best temperature that a phone has ever been but it's like night and day for me!
Kudos to Qualcomm or LeEco or the battery manufacturer or the screen supplier- they all seem to have gotten it right with regards to heat and efficiency.
I even have the speed up box enabled for all relevant apps and have turned off most power saving stuff and the phone is still cooler than every modern smartphone phone I've used including hugely underpowered ones.

rushtest4echo said:
...aside from an APN issue where signals were going insane and the radio tried to connect to a billion different towers,
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I had a same problem but after moving to CM, no such issues.

4K2K said:
I had a same problem but after moving to CM, no such issues.
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Good to know, if anyone else has this issue - mine was deleting T-Mobiles default APN and making a MetroPCS one (incorrectly), then deleting that and having it automatically revert back to T-Mobile. Once I cleared everything and manually put Metros APN stuff correctly everything cleared up and has been fine since.
But during that half morning when I couldn't figure out the issue my Pro3 was getting quite warm and I was ready to return the thing. The issue remained even after a factory reset until I manually adjusted the APN.

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Good to know, if anyone else has this issue - mine was deleting T-Mobiles default APN and making a MetroPCS one (incorrectly), then deleting that and having it automatically revert back to T-Mobile. Once I cleared everything and manually put Metros APN stuff correctly everything cleared up and has been fine since.
But during that half morning when I couldn't figure out the issue my Pro3 was getting quite warm and I was ready to return the thing. The issue remained even after a factory reset until I manually adjusted the APN.
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My situation was different then. APN was fine but it somehow kept frequently switching LTE bands/towers my carrier offer which caused ever frequent signal fluctuation.
Nothing could fix it until I moved to CM.

Very disappointed to buy a HTC 10, and some questions

Good afternoon to all, I hope you can help me with this situation.
I have 20 days with the HTC 10, and I can not be more disappointed of its performance, and coming from a galaxy s6, but we go by parts.
1- the phone, it gets very hot, very fast, especially after updating to nougat 7, I mean, with 15 20 minutes of surfing on the web, it reaches temperatures between 40-44 C ° (104-111 F °) , At this temperature it is uncomfortable to hold. Is this normal ??
Taking into account that I do not play, I only watch videos, I listen to music and web, because I just did a hard reset, which brings us to point 2.
2 - It is the first time, I update an android version, and a big error appears, once updated to android 7, the keyboard stopped working (swiftkey), so I could not access it because it was protected By password, and the keyboard in the start section, never displayed. I had to do a hard reset with only 15 days of use, seriously WTF!
3- Due to the warm up, the battery life is quite poor (between 3.5 and 4 hours of screen, no play, or take pictures all day, turning off mobile data at times and wifi, is this battery drain normal?
The battery come to exhaust quickly, especially when the phone is very hot, when restarting the phone, it eats 3-5% of battery every time.
When taking photos the same, the battery drops very quickly.
4- I normally play on a PC at 60 fps, the phone when playing video on youtube, has a slight lag or "stuttering", this jumps out at me very easily, although there are people who do not see it at all, I do by The same as I mentioned earlier.
When playing video youtube on the phone, the camera movements are not smooth, there are micro-cuts to the FPS, and it is very annoying.
5- before upgrading to android 7, just install a game, "realm defense, hero legends", a very popular game on android, and felt like it was under 30fps all the time, my previous galaxy s6 handled this very smooth,
6- Points 4 and 5 are solved by activating the "high performance" option in the menu of developers, the lag in the videos disappears completely, and the games feel very good, but with the consequent increase in battery usage and Temperature, seriously WTF again.
The phone according to CPUZ has a load of 15-35% all the time without loading any application, this is normal in andrid 7 ??
The phone is in stock status, with the update of the operator, I have no ROM installed, and I have no idea how to do it, because I would not like to lose the warranty.
Any recommendations to this situation ??
THANKS and excuse my bad English.

May want to ask for a replacement. None of the issues you mentioned here and I have been using this phone for almost a year.

No these are not normal. Obviously something is running around causing the CPU usage and eating the battery. Given how many problems you're having I would do a factory reset, see how it goes without installing any apps. If things get better that'll help your pinpoint the troublesome app(s). If not, a replacement is in order.

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May want to ask for a replacement. None of the issues you mentioned here and I have been using this phone for almost a year.
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Is what I was thinking. Thank you.
Tarima said:
No these are not normal. Obviously something is running around causing the CPU usage and eating the battery. Given how many problems you're having I would do a factory reset, see how it goes without installing any apps. If things get better that'll help your pinpoint the troublesome app(s). If not, a replacement is in order.
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I do not know what to have, I have a hardreset for 4 days and I have not installed many apps yet, and it has these problems.
I appreciate your comments.

Gr8man001 said:
May want to ask for a replacement. None of the issues you mentioned here and I have been using this phone for almost a year.
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I'll second that, although I've only used mine for about six months. I do admit that running Android 6 the phone did seem to get hotter than it does with Android 7.
That being said, when I'm running a game battery life does suck, and it does get warm. I think I'm about 5 to 6 hours of screen on time, but I'm also bone stock with a bunch of extra apps in the background.
Just for reference:
CID: BM___001
MID: 2PS6500
Firmware: 2.41.666.3
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atirox said:
I'll second that, although I've only used mine for about six months. I do admit that running Android 6 the phone did seem to get hotter than it does with Android 7.
That being said, when I'm running a game battery life does suck, and it does get warm. I think I'm about 5 to 6 hours of screen on time, but I'm also bone stock with a bunch of extra apps in the background.
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CID: BM___001
MID: 2PS6500
Firmware: 2.41.666.3
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Thank you friend, I am interested to know more about your experience with the phone, why you only had 6 months?
Could you fix some problem that he gave you?
Greetings.

I have HTC 10 for one year and several days, never had those issues.
I admit HTC storage r&w speed is slower than S6 because of emmc5.1, but mine is smooth enough.
I also recognized the battery life is shorter on Android 7.0, but it's a general issue for phones upgraded to this version of Android...Not just HTC10, Sony, Samsung etc also has this problem.
As for SwiftKey stopped working, I have no such an issue, in fact I'm a mod of SwiftKey.
At last for the temperature, mine gets 38 °C while fast charging; 42°C is max while playing heavy games.

Alpert3 said:
I have HTC 10 for one year and several days, never had those issues.
I admit HTC storage r&w speed is slower than S6 because of emmc5.1, but mine is smooth enough.
I also recognized the battery life is shorter on Android 7.0, but it's a general issue for phones upgraded to this version of Android...Not just HTC10, Sony, Samsung etc also has this problem.
As for SwiftKey stopped working, I have no such an issue, in fact I'm a mod of SwiftKey.
At last for the temperature, mine gets 38 °C while fast charging; 42°C is max while playing heavy games.
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Mine gets 40°C Without doing anything, and playing reaches 44-45 °
And it seems ridiculous, that when doing this app can not with the 60fps, for a little ball in 2D.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.wt.fpstest&hl=es
Again, it reaches almost 60 FPS, activating the high performance mode.
Thanks for sharing your experience.

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Thank you friend, I am interested to know more about your experience with the phone, why you only had 6 months?
Could you fix some problem that he gave you?
Greetings.
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Sorry, I should clarify...
I've had the phone for about 7-8 months now (longer than I originally thought, got it back in September of last year...) and got the update to nougat about 4 months ago.
When the phone was running marshmallow, it would get warm while working on tasks that aren't CPU/GPU intensive. With the update to nougat, it definitely helped with the heat production. That's not to say it doesn't get warm... If I'm playing Rayman Classic on full brightness, that phone gets really REALLY warm. But when playing Deus Ex - The Fall, even on high brightness, it doesn't get uncomfortably warm like when playing Rayman. Also, basic tasks don't overheat the phone like they would on MM.
I should note that I typically leave power saver turned on as well. I've found it doesn't affect performance noticeably for myself. I've also had Boost+ optimise all foreground apps from the overheating nightmare on MM, and I hadn't bothered to turn it off... These could play into the heat production of my phone as well...
My time with this awesome phone has been so short due to my contract with my former service provider...

I think most of your issues will get resolved after installing Custom Rom. Infact I am in similar situation like you. I can't root my phone due to warranty. As i know for fact that in my country HTC charge huge amount of money even for small issue. After spending that much money on repair, there is no guarantee that phone will work fine cause engineers are not capable enough, maybe cost cutting by HTC. Meanwhile i would suggest select SRGB instead of Vivid display, it will surely reduce heating problem to some extent.
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Question Micro lags / jitters

These micro lags makes the phones processor feel like it's from 2018, can't scroll through anything without having all these micro lags and jitters, same with light gaming, I don't think this processer can handle to much?
If the next update doesn't fix these issues then I don't think they will be fixed?

I haven't had this problem in the last two months I've been using the phone. My wife hasn't complained about her games - I generally don't game very much.

Have never once felt a jitter or lag.....not once. For me this phone has been a pleasure to use. I rooted right out of the box and have since done an update and switched to another rom without a hitch really. except one hiccup i was having with a bootloop. Which proved to be me not disabling mods before the flash. I absolutely love this phone. I am not seeing any of the issues that people are reporting. I also believe that a LOT of reports are bogus. ( Not saying that this is the case here).

I think these "jitters/lag" you are experiencing are due to the framerate getting locked to 60hz. This happens with mine ever day or two. After a reboot it will be smooth. My guess is there is a "bug" from an app or something causing the framerate to lock at 60hz, rather than the 120hz. I haven't quite figured out how to resolve, other than a reboot. It is quite annoying, and I am hoping a future update (if we ever get one!) will fix it.

I've noticed lag when typing. I do use gboard as most of the people do. I do type with two languages activated. Every now and then the phone lags for about a second.
I thought google had already acknowledge that the phone does lag when the battery percentage drops.
Something about accessibility and animations as far as I remember.

Lol that's the first thing I noticed straight from a clean setup twice, Cod mobile is a jittery mess but perfectly fine on my OP 8 Pro and every time I swiped left for Google now it would jitter, Not all the time but it did do it frequently.

Cod mobile was jittery as hell for me as well. After the Dec update it is not jittery anymore but playing on it is really weird. I can't get used to it so i still play on my Poco x3

Mine studders for sure a few times a day for a few seconds. Factor reset didn't help. This phone feels like it's 8 years old with the stutters and the fingerprint reader that doesn't work.

Very smooth experience for me for gaming and all my everyday tasks.

Ady1976 said:
Lol that's the first thing I noticed straight from a clean setup twice, Cod mobile is a jittery mess but perfectly fine on my OP 8 Pro and every time I swiped left for Google now it would jitter, Not all the time but it did do it frequently.
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Yeah my OnePlus Nord gen1 runs far smoother than this phone lol, so weird, if it's not fixed by the next update then I'm selling it for galaxy s21 Fe 5g, SD 888

Ady1976 said:
Lol that's the first thing I noticed straight from a clean setup twice, Cod mobile is a jittery mess but perfectly fine on my OP 8 Pro and every time I swiped left for Google now it would jitter, Not all the time but it did do it frequently.
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Always gonna be a beta tester on this phone I think

clipdawg05 said:
Cod mobile was jittery as hell for me as well. After the Dec update it is not jittery anymore but playing on it is really weird. I can't get used to it so i still play on my Poco x3
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Yeah cod mobile is a jittery mess here on November software I can't play it all can't get used to it, I've ditched it for now and playing on my OP 8 Pro buttery smooth on 8 Pro.

kevinireland11 said:
Yeah my OnePlus Nord gen1 runs far smoother than this phone lol, so weird, if it's not fixed by the next update then I'm selling it for galaxy s21 Fe 5g, SD 888
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I think some people are in denial about this handset to be honest, Ok be thing I have learned over the years never trust the usual YouTubers they know who they are and are scripted.

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Always gonna be a beta tester on this phone I think
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Well the fact they can't even roll an update out without bricking people's phones kind of says it all really, The software features this device is missing will never get added by Google never it's not in their nature they couldn't care less what the user thinks.
You have to check the Google forums to see most complaint threads have been locked by admins to give you an idea of how little **** they give.

choder said:
Mine studders for sure a few times a day for a few seconds. Factor reset didn't help. This phone feels like it's 8 years old with the stutters and the fingerprint reader that doesn't work.
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That's what it's doing here it's like the CPU or GPU is asleep then all of a sudden wakes up after It's too late lol

dmbfan13 said:
I think these "jitters/lag" you are experiencing are due to the framerate getting locked to 60hz. This happens with mine ever day or two. After a reboot it will be smooth. My guess is there is a "bug" from an app or something causing the framerate to lock at 60hz, rather than the 120hz. I haven't quite figured out how to resolve, other than a reboot. It is quite annoying, and I am hoping a future update (if we ever get one!) will fix it.
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That is another possibility and another reason why I hate Google phones they don't even have refresh rate locks just a "Smooth" option but still jitters.

Just found another bug lol try scrolling fast in opposite directions in messages it just freezes and gets confused and sits there like it can't understand fast opposite direction of scrolling lol, Amazing how these devices get released in these states really.

Ady1976 said:
Well the fact they can't even roll an update out without bricking people's phones kind of says it all really, The software features this device is missing will never get added by Google never it's not in their nature they couldn't care less what the user thinks.
You have to check the Google forums to see most complaint threads have been locked by admins to give you an idea of how little **** they give.
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I no and people dis oneui, Samsung have came such a long way to be honest, at least they're phones are smooth and the extra features that's on oneui is what the consumers asked for, even with all the added features it doesn't hinder battery life, yah can't even screen cast on this phone without a chrome cast, people say about a clean stock software but but what's the point, not like as if it's better battery and performance, I get better performance and battery out of my S20 Fe 5g

Ady1976 said:
Well the fact they can't even roll an update out without bricking people's phones kind of says it all really, The software features this device is missing will never get added by Google never it's not in their nature they couldn't care less what the user thinks.
You have to check the Google forums to see most complaint threads have been locked by admins to give you an idea of how little **** they give.
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They definitely didn't "brick" from the update. Do you know what "brick" means?

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can't scroll through anything without having all these micro lags and jitters
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If a scrollable list is implemented as a scrollview, data will be loaded into it dynamically, AS you scroll through it. Depending on the speed and latency of the data source (for example, loading over the network), and the complexity of generating each element, you may occasionally scroll beyond the loaded data, requiring an interruption that you might perceive as a "lag" or "jitter".
So really there can be two causes that do NOT imply a CPU performance issue; data source, and bad code. A competent programmer can load data from the network in a more effective manner and ensure that processing overhead is minimized, thus reducing the negative effects.
Unfortunately, with mobile, like web, competent programmers are like a drop of water in the ocean.