These micro lags makes the phones processor feel like it's from 2018, can't scroll through anything without having all these micro lags and jitters, same with light gaming, I don't think this processer can handle to much?
If the next update doesn't fix these issues then I don't think they will be fixed?
I haven't had this problem in the last two months I've been using the phone. My wife hasn't complained about her games - I generally don't game very much.
Have never once felt a jitter or lag.....not once. For me this phone has been a pleasure to use. I rooted right out of the box and have since done an update and switched to another rom without a hitch really. except one hiccup i was having with a bootloop. Which proved to be me not disabling mods before the flash. I absolutely love this phone. I am not seeing any of the issues that people are reporting. I also believe that a LOT of reports are bogus. ( Not saying that this is the case here).
I think these "jitters/lag" you are experiencing are due to the framerate getting locked to 60hz. This happens with mine ever day or two. After a reboot it will be smooth. My guess is there is a "bug" from an app or something causing the framerate to lock at 60hz, rather than the 120hz. I haven't quite figured out how to resolve, other than a reboot. It is quite annoying, and I am hoping a future update (if we ever get one!) will fix it.
I've noticed lag when typing. I do use gboard as most of the people do. I do type with two languages activated. Every now and then the phone lags for about a second.
I thought google had already acknowledge that the phone does lag when the battery percentage drops.
Something about accessibility and animations as far as I remember.
Lol that's the first thing I noticed straight from a clean setup twice, Cod mobile is a jittery mess but perfectly fine on my OP 8 Pro and every time I swiped left for Google now it would jitter, Not all the time but it did do it frequently.
Cod mobile was jittery as hell for me as well. After the Dec update it is not jittery anymore but playing on it is really weird. I can't get used to it so i still play on my Poco x3
Mine studders for sure a few times a day for a few seconds. Factor reset didn't help. This phone feels like it's 8 years old with the stutters and the fingerprint reader that doesn't work.
Very smooth experience for me for gaming and all my everyday tasks.
Ady1976 said:
Lol that's the first thing I noticed straight from a clean setup twice, Cod mobile is a jittery mess but perfectly fine on my OP 8 Pro and every time I swiped left for Google now it would jitter, Not all the time but it did do it frequently.
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Yeah my OnePlus Nord gen1 runs far smoother than this phone lol, so weird, if it's not fixed by the next update then I'm selling it for galaxy s21 Fe 5g, SD 888
Ady1976 said:
Lol that's the first thing I noticed straight from a clean setup twice, Cod mobile is a jittery mess but perfectly fine on my OP 8 Pro and every time I swiped left for Google now it would jitter, Not all the time but it did do it frequently.
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Always gonna be a beta tester on this phone I think
clipdawg05 said:
Cod mobile was jittery as hell for me as well. After the Dec update it is not jittery anymore but playing on it is really weird. I can't get used to it so i still play on my Poco x3
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Yeah cod mobile is a jittery mess here on November software I can't play it all can't get used to it, I've ditched it for now and playing on my OP 8 Pro buttery smooth on 8 Pro.
kevinireland11 said:
Yeah my OnePlus Nord gen1 runs far smoother than this phone lol, so weird, if it's not fixed by the next update then I'm selling it for galaxy s21 Fe 5g, SD 888
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I think some people are in denial about this handset to be honest, Ok be thing I have learned over the years never trust the usual YouTubers they know who they are and are scripted.
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Always gonna be a beta tester on this phone I think
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Well the fact they can't even roll an update out without bricking people's phones kind of says it all really, The software features this device is missing will never get added by Google never it's not in their nature they couldn't care less what the user thinks.
You have to check the Google forums to see most complaint threads have been locked by admins to give you an idea of how little **** they give.
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Mine studders for sure a few times a day for a few seconds. Factor reset didn't help. This phone feels like it's 8 years old with the stutters and the fingerprint reader that doesn't work.
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That's what it's doing here it's like the CPU or GPU is asleep then all of a sudden wakes up after It's too late lol
dmbfan13 said:
I think these "jitters/lag" you are experiencing are due to the framerate getting locked to 60hz. This happens with mine ever day or two. After a reboot it will be smooth. My guess is there is a "bug" from an app or something causing the framerate to lock at 60hz, rather than the 120hz. I haven't quite figured out how to resolve, other than a reboot. It is quite annoying, and I am hoping a future update (if we ever get one!) will fix it.
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That is another possibility and another reason why I hate Google phones they don't even have refresh rate locks just a "Smooth" option but still jitters.
Just found another bug lol try scrolling fast in opposite directions in messages it just freezes and gets confused and sits there like it can't understand fast opposite direction of scrolling lol, Amazing how these devices get released in these states really.
Ady1976 said:
Well the fact they can't even roll an update out without bricking people's phones kind of says it all really, The software features this device is missing will never get added by Google never it's not in their nature they couldn't care less what the user thinks.
You have to check the Google forums to see most complaint threads have been locked by admins to give you an idea of how little **** they give.
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I no and people dis oneui, Samsung have came such a long way to be honest, at least they're phones are smooth and the extra features that's on oneui is what the consumers asked for, even with all the added features it doesn't hinder battery life, yah can't even screen cast on this phone without a chrome cast, people say about a clean stock software but but what's the point, not like as if it's better battery and performance, I get better performance and battery out of my S20 Fe 5g
Ady1976 said:
Well the fact they can't even roll an update out without bricking people's phones kind of says it all really, The software features this device is missing will never get added by Google never it's not in their nature they couldn't care less what the user thinks.
You have to check the Google forums to see most complaint threads have been locked by admins to give you an idea of how little **** they give.
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They definitely didn't "brick" from the update. Do you know what "brick" means?
kevinireland11 said:
can't scroll through anything without having all these micro lags and jitters
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If a scrollable list is implemented as a scrollview, data will be loaded into it dynamically, AS you scroll through it. Depending on the speed and latency of the data source (for example, loading over the network), and the complexity of generating each element, you may occasionally scroll beyond the loaded data, requiring an interruption that you might perceive as a "lag" or "jitter".
So really there can be two causes that do NOT imply a CPU performance issue; data source, and bad code. A competent programmer can load data from the network in a more effective manner and ensure that processing overhead is minimized, thus reducing the negative effects.
Unfortunately, with mobile, like web, competent programmers are like a drop of water in the ocean.
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I just got my Samsung Galaxy s6 edge white 32gb last night and I noticed that is over heating than it should be. I'm using it for Web browser and texting nothing that should cause to heat up. I also updated to the latest version.
Bboy_LeoGun said:
I just got my Samsung Galaxy s6 edge white 32gb last night and I noticed that is over heating than it should be. I'm using it for Web browser and texting nothing that should cause to heat up. I also updated to the latest version.
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Actually if it was overheating then the phone would automatically shut down to prevent damage, but yes the phone does get hot rather quickly. But I've had glass and aluminum phones before and they always get hot fast since metal retains heat.
Mine ran a lot hotter than a normal glass and metal phone, and it was laggy/jerky. I flashed the stock firmware to it, and now it's smooth and cool.
Here's How:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmo...p/flash-stock-firmware-using-samsung-t3079176
yes it does get hot once in every 3-4 days & when I say it means really hot..
s6 edge overheating
How can we fix this overheating issue?
quis5550 said:
How can we fix this overheating issue?
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Have you tried Smart Switch as mentioned two posts up?
SuperSport said:
Have you tried Smart Switch as mentioned two posts up?
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Smart switch is not working for everyone. Hit or a miss thing.
My phone heats up to 44 C
What is the Warning Level is it safe till 45 or 50 Celsius ?
It happens when
1) On use of Google Maps while driving
2) Charging
3) When i use Sandisk OTG, to the extent that it stop the Transfer & freezes
4) Even if i Record Videos sometimes
5) While wireless charging
This is really bad Never had such a Issue
I agree with some of the sentiments here that the device can seemingly get pretty warm - especially when I tweaking things or using apps that use a lot of CPU or using the camera for too long. But I do believe a lot of it is related to the aluminum/glass case - I believe Samsung is basically taking advantage of the case as a though it were a heatsink - releasing all the heat into your hand/pocket/air.
This is truly the first phone i've had that manages to stay under 100° F even when cpu frequency is locked to the maximum and I'm playing very gpu-intensive games, provided that i'm not charging the battery and the phone is not in an unusually warm environmnt like a hot car. I should mention that i'm rooted and lots of preloaded software has been removed. I would download some sort of process monitor and check it to see if there's a misbehaving app to blame if this is happening regularly.
SuperSport said:
Mine ran a lot hotter than a normal glass and metal phone, and it was laggy/jerky. I flashed the stock firmware to it, and now it's smooth and cool.
Here's How:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmo...p/flash-stock-firmware-using-samsung-t3079176
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Hey,
I saw that you posted a solution when someone had problems with his S6 edge overheating. I've an S6 and I think I might have the same problem.
I was wondering if you could spare some time to help me. I posted my problem here. http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/help/help-s6-cpu-getting-hot-t3180011
I used Antatu benchmark and CPU temperature to test my phone and it got to 84.0 C twice, once when it was testing my CPU to it's fullest and once when it was testing game performance.
So I was wondering if you could run the test as well and tell me what temperature you got so I can compare. Thanks
I haven't tried your method yet but I will tomorrow.
LoganAlexander said:
Hey,
I saw that you posted a solution when someone had problems with his S6 edge overheating. I've an S6 and I think I might have the same problem.
I was wondering if you could spare some time to help me. I posted my problem here. http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/help/help-s6-cpu-getting-hot-t3180011
I used Antatu benchmark and CPU temperature to test my phone and it got to 84.0 C twice, once when it was testing my CPU to it's fullest and once when it was testing game performance.
So I was wondering if you could run the test as well and tell me what temperature you got so I can compare. Thanks
I haven't tried your method yet but I will tomorrow.
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For the record, mine just hit 85C while running AnTuTu. As far as daily use, it made a world of difference on my phone when I flashed the stock firmware the first time. The phone was terribly hot in my pocket when I was not doing anything, and it was SUPER laggy when I was. Not something I expected from this phone. After the flash, it was a Beast and ran MUCH cooler. It would get warm still when doing intensive tasks, but that would be expected from an Octa-core phone in my opinion. It does not get uncomfortably hot anymore, like it used to though. I would imagine it went WAY above 85C when it got hot before, because it was actually hard to hold at times.
If you have not flashed it since new, I would highly recommend it. I know it's a pain, but it's a one time thing that you never have to do again, and the benefit MIGHT be large. No guarantees, as you may not have the same issue, but I've received a lot of reports from people who have done it and they say it breathed new life into their phones. For me personally, it was DEFINITELY not a placebo affect. It was night and day.
With all that said, I've got my S6 Edge up for sale right now as I've moved to Apple for a little while. I continually jump around, and T-Mobile offered the iPhone 6 for $15/mo and I can trade it in 3 times in the next 18 months for free and keep paying $15/mo for the newest phone. I'm looking forward to seeing the difference in the iPhone 6s. If it sucks, I'll be trading it in shortly for another Android phone.
PS: AnTuTu final score: 69314!!!! Wow!!!
One more thing. To eliminate ALL lag and slowdown, I replaced the Samsung Launcher with the Google Launcher. What a difference that alone makes! Seriously, try that one thing. It's huge. The Samsung Launcher has some issue somewhere that they still need to address.
SuperSport said:
Mine ran a lot hotter than a normal glass and metal phone, and it was laggy/jerky. I flashed the stock firmware to it, and now it's smooth and cool.
Here's How:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmo...p/flash-stock-firmware-using-samsung-t3079176
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I did not buy my S6 edge on contract with any service provider. I have all the same problems though. Will this solution work for me?
venkatgaddam said:
I did not buy my S6 edge on contract with any service provider. I have all the same problems though. Will this solution work for me?
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It should. As long as Smart Switch can recognize your phone model and download the Correct Firmware, the Flash WILL help the Heating and Lagging problem. If your phone is not recognized, then Smart Switch will not do anything. It's worth a try.
For me it happens especially when im playing arround with that samsung theme store build in app. I don't know why that app needs so much power to have that effect on the phone but for sure its something samsung needs to look at.
For sure they need to re-design that app from the scratch. Its like the "my first homepage" of theme apps.
Hey fellas!
Just got a new G4 to replace my Nexus 5, and I'm encountering some heavily disappointing performance issues like:
poor 3D performance - games like Boom Beach and Smash Hit run just... bad. mediocre/low fps gaming, where my Nexus 5 did perfectly fine!
2D performance (UI) - sometimes laggy UI transitions, typing really quick with SwiftKey keyboard is impossible, it's like the phone can't keep up with what I'm clicking fast, feels majorly laggy.
Anything I'm missing? and low performance/battery saving settings I'm missing? what's happening... oO
NuclearBastard said:
Hey fellas!
Just got a new G4 to replace my Nexus 5, and I'm encountering some heavily disappointing performance issues like:
poor 3D performance - games like Boom Beach and Smash Hit run just... bad. mediocre/low fps gaming, where my Nexus 5 did perfectly fine!
2D performance (UI) - sometimes laggy UI transitions, typing really quick with SwiftKey keyboard is impossible, it's like the phone can't keep up with what I'm clicking fast, feels majorly laggy.
Anything I'm missing? and low performance/battery saving settings I'm missing? what's happening... oO
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There's an option somewhere to lower graphics in games to save battery...its on by default...at least on h811 it is...also in dev options changing all animations to .5 or off fixes any laggy experience
Thanks, seems to help a bit, but it's right on the fine line between actually helping and just a placebo.
I mean, some really visually simple games (Smash Hit) shouldn't run with such low fps, especially not when considering the Nexus 5 ran it perfect.
What about the rest of the UI?
I suspect that some of the problems I'm having with SwiftKey are software related (might not be optimized for G4 yet?), since I'm noticing some other unrelated performance bugs in it; emailed that to them.
I got H815L myself and it's pretty good.
What's your Antutu score?
Personal experience with Swiftkey is it isn't optimised very well at all and only runs properly with a handfull of phones if at all. I gave up on it a long time ago.
As for UI performance, I haven't noticed any lag yet. Games run great too.
I would point the finger at the Apps you're using and make sure you've updated the software on the phone to the latest version.
The nexus phones feel less laggy because the transition animations are so slooooow just like on iphones, and it's just there to hide any lag as it takes so long to open and close the apps.
You'll get used to G4 I have no doubt
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There's an option somewhere to lower graphics in games to save battery...its on by default...at least on h811 it is...also in dev options changing all animations to .5 or off fixes any laggy experience
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Jonathan-H said:
Personal experience with Swiftkey is it isn't optimised very well at all and only runs properly with a handfull of phones if at all. I gave up on it a long time ago.
As for UI performance, I haven't noticed any lag yet. Games run great too.
I would point the finger at the Apps you're using and make sure you've updated the software on the phone to the latest version.
The nexus phones feel less laggy because the transition animations are so slooooow just like on iphones, and it's just there to hide any lag as it takes so long to open and close the apps.
You'll get used to G4 I have no doubt
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I got 49081 on Antutu, and I'm running v10H and all my apps are updated.
I do suspect it's the keyboard app itself messing around with me, because I see several more bugs except for the weird latency.
And just for comparison, the game Smash Hit (on HIGH set on graphics) runs choppy with a Nexus 5 running it perfectly.
I know and understand Android, but why do I need to get a new $500+ phone with new hardware only to find out my 2 years older phone is more "optimized"?
NuclearBastard said:
Hey fellas!
Just got a new G4 to replace my Nexus 5, and I'm encountering some heavily disappointing performance issues like:
poor 3D performance - games like Boom Beach and Smash Hit run just... bad. mediocre/low fps gaming, where my Nexus 5 did perfectly fine!
2D performance (UI) - sometimes laggy UI transitions, typing really quick with SwiftKey keyboard is impossible, it's like the phone can't keep up with what I'm clicking fast, feels majorly laggy.
Anything I'm missing? and low performance/battery saving settings I'm missing? what's happening... oO
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Not missing anything. Is called lg g4.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N920A
oh thanks bro.
most helpful reply of the week.
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I got 49081 on Antutu, and I'm running v10H and all my apps are updated.
I do suspect it's the keyboard app itself messing around with me, because I see several more bugs except for the weird latency.
And just for comparison, the game Smash Hit (on HIGH set on graphics) runs choppy with a Nexus 5 running it perfectly.
I know and understand Android, but why do I need to get a new $500+ phone with new hardware only to find out my 2 years older phone is more "optimized"?
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Man idk...maybe some bloat or config issue but i installed smash hit(never played til you mentioned it so thanks for giving me a new addiction)and it ran smooth even on high graphics...my h811 has same hardware and my antutu was much higher...my g4 has been my favorite device since my g2...the g3 was a pile and i hated it...you will have to check out whats clogging up your processing...something isn't right...if all else fails try backing up data and factory reset...many have reported this to solve many issues good luck!
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Man idk...maybe some bloat or config issue but i installed smash hit(never played til you mentioned it so thanks for giving me a new addiction)and it ran smooth even on high graphics...my h811 has same hardware and my antutu was much higher...my g4 has been my favorite device since my g2...the g3 was a pile and i hated it...you will have to check out whats clogging up your processing...something isn't right...if all else fails try backing up data and factory reset...many have reported this to solve many issues good luck!
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Weird that you got 50k+ on antutu, most of the reviews I Google's were about 41k+.
How can I check what's choking the device?
I have nothing special installed; opened the box, turned the phone on, updated the latest OTA and then all my apps - games and some other stuff but nothing heavy that I didn't have on my N5...
Maybe I'll try to factory reset the phone some day next week and see the results.
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Weird that you got 50k+ on antutu, most of the reviews I Google's were about 41k+.
How can I check what's choking the device?
I have nothing special installed; opened the box, turned the phone on, updated the latest OTA and then all my apps - games and some other stuff but nothing heavy that I didn't have on my N5...
Maybe I'll try to factory reset the phone some day next week and see the results.
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Download a wakelock detector or something to see whats stayin active that isn't necessary...also are you rooted...if not you may want to do that...it will allow you to freeze and remove unnecessary and memory hogging apps and will give you a boost...i got rid of a lot of those day 1 and have had a great experience with my g4...we shouldn't have to do this to get the best out of this device but its the way android has gone...also with root you can try ctt mod and other performance boosters to really get the best experience...you can also get better battery life without the extra junk processes running in the back...there are many threads to teach you what can be done with the g4
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Man idk...maybe some bloat or config issue but i installed smash hit(never played til you mentioned it so thanks for giving me a new addiction)and it ran smooth even on high graphics...my h811 has same hardware and my antutu was much higher...my g4 has been my favorite device since my g2...the g3 was a pile and i hated it...you will have to check out whats clogging up your processing...something isn't right...if all else fails try backing up data and factory reset...many have reported this to solve many issues good luck!
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Download a wakelock detector or something to see whats stayin active that isn't necessary...also are you rooted...if not you may want to do that...it will allow you to freeze and remove unnecessary and memory hogging apps and will give you a boost...i got rid of a lot of those day 1 and have had a great experience with my g4...we shouldn't have to do this to get the best out of this device but its the way android has gone...also with root you can try ctt mod and other performance boosters to really get the best experience...you can also get better battery life without the extra junk processes running in the back...there are many threads to teach you what can be done with the g4
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Yeah, I pretty much know most of the basics of all the advanced tweaking, but since I have H815L the bootloader is locked, so rooting it is a bit pain in the ass.
Someday next week I'll just factory reset it and check again.
Thanks bud!
well ok.
Just did a factory reset and... Nothing.
So friggin disappointing, im completely clueless now.
right when the phone started up (completely blank after reset), downloaded and installed Boom Beach and Smash Hit, and the performance was still bad. Im so annoyed.
What the hell should i do? Why is my BRAND NEW phone is having poor 3D performance?
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well ok.
Just did a factory reset and... Nothing.
So friggin disappointing, im completely clueless now.
right when the phone started up (completely blank after reset), downloaded and installed Boom Beach and Smash Hit, and the performance was still bad. Im so annoyed.
What the hell should i do? Why is my BRAND NEW phone is having poor 3D performance?
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Root it and bump up lower clock speed on big/little cores with kernel audiutor...it will reduce lag and actually save battery as small processes cause it to jump around a lot on factory settings...short of doing this idk...
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Weird that you got 50k+ on antutu,
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It means his device is running cooler than yours. He mentioned some tweaks to keep heat down.
There is also the CTT mod (in development)but it requires root.
most of the reviews I Google's were about 41k+.
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Actually i just checked 3 different reviews and the avg antutue score for the G4 is 49k. if you run antutu back to back 3-4 times it will drop to 44k. If it wont rise above 45k then it indicates a heating device with throttling.
How can I check what's choking the device?
I have nothing special installed; opened the box, turned the phone on, updated the latest OTA and then all my apps - games and some other stuff but nothing heavy that I didn't have on my N5...
Maybe I'll try to factory reset the phone some day next week and see the results.
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How is your battery life in general sot/run time ?
can you try playing your games in a low light environment. So your brightness will be much lower. Do you notice any difference ?
I've had the phone for a total of about 4 days now, SOT seems about 3-4 hours, better than my N5 so I'm happy so far.
Tried gaming with low light / cold environments, doesn't seem to change anything.
Not sure about the throttling, due to the fact that the device is actually pretty cold... not sensing any extreme heat (my N5 was way hotter).
After that factory reset I get about 48k on Antutu, and I actually tried two different "heavy" games (NOVA3 and Asphalt 8) and they run OK...
I genuinely have no idea what's the problem, so instead of rooting and tweaking stuff that seem to not have to be tweaked for others, I'll just wait till I get back home and compare the gaming performance with friends' devices.
If something goes wrong - warranty it is.
Man, I feel you! Been dealing with laggy UI and cursing my choice of purchase since day one. Anyways..
For games - have you disabled 'Game Optimzer' option from 'Battery & Power Saving'?
For laggy UI - Swiftkey is laggy as ****. So try Fleksy, it's a LOT smoother, I barely notice any lag (although it does hiccup once in a while...). As for general performance, you have to accept that some animations will be choppy - that's just how LG UI works, there is no work around. For me the phone was chugging a lot before I uninstalled Inbox by Gmail, after that the phone regained it's speed and it's pretty damn smooth now. It still stutters here and there but ...what to do. Also try delobating it and removing any unnecessary apps and services (you don't need to root for this).
OK so some updates.
Rooted the phone, debloated the s**t out of it, even managed to got to 5h 2m screen-on time with that lol.
Tried to tweak lots of other things as wellwell, got me some great bootloops in the process. eventually I practically totally wiped the system and flashed a 100% clean one.
Smash hit (on High setting in graphics) and Boom Beach still work a bit choppy.
NOVA3 seems to work ok.
AnTuTu is about 50.5k.
I seriously can't figure out what's the problem.
the 2d phone UI seems almost perfect, and the benchmark score seems OK.
What the hell could be wrong?
Is there any more testing (games/benchmarks/logs) I could do to try and figure this out?
It's going to take me another week till I go back to my country to check with a different H815L. Asked a friend with the US model, she claims Smash Hit works flawlessly fluid. can't understand that.
I find it funny, the fact that I might ask for an under-under-warrenty device replacement just because couple of games run bad.
Hoping the XDA gods would help me in some way, before heading the noob warranty-for-nothing route.
Thanks!
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OK so some updates.
Rooted the phone, debloated the s**t out of it, even managed to got to 5h 2m screen-on time with that lol.
Tried to tweak lots of other things as wellwell, got me some great bootloops in the process. eventually I practically totally wiped the system and flashed a 100% clean one.
Smash hit (on High setting in graphics) and Boom Beach still work a bit choppy.
NOVA3 seems to work ok.
AnTuTu is about 50.5k.
I seriously can't figure out what's the problem.
the 2d phone UI seems almost perfect, and the benchmark score seems OK.
What the hell could be wrong?
Is there any more testing (games/benchmarks/logs) I could do to try and figure this out?
It's going to take me another week till I go back to my country to check with a different H815L. Asked a friend with the US model, she claims Smash Hit works flawlessly fluid. can't understand that.
I find it funny, the fact that I might ask for an under-under-warrenty device replacement just because couple of games run bad.
Hoping the XDA gods would help me in some way, before heading the noob warranty-for-nothing route.
Thanks!
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Dude i has the g4 H815L and it is works fine but maybe it becouse the root.
I has the device for few months with stock version of lg and my g4 works very good and when i play games like Goat Simulator he got hot if not very hot but if your device don't get hot becouse of games so for sure you won't get high preformance.
Plus my bettery works fine and my phone can work perfectly and smothly with smart watch and survive one day with out any problames.
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OK so some updates.
Rooted the phone, debloated the s**t out of it, even managed to got to 5h 2m screen-on time with that lol.
Tried to tweak lots of other things as wellwell, got me some great bootloops in the process. eventually I practically totally wiped the system and flashed a 100% clean one.
Smash hit (on High setting in graphics) and Boom Beach still work a bit choppy.
NOVA3 seems to work ok.
AnTuTu is about 50.5k.
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Every CPU (SoC) is unique. Remember, even two identical CPUs can deliver different benchmark results, thus have different real world performance. Unless there's a software issue you haven't found out about yet, it's also likely that you just got a bad one.
NuclearBastard said:
Hoping the XDA gods would help me in some way, before heading the noob warranty-for-nothing route.
Thanks!
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Don't even hesitate. You paid for it hard earned money under the condition that it works as stated and advertised by LG. Now, as you told us, it does not. See my point?
One day into my N9750 and I'm ready to sell it. Anyone else experiencing lag fairly consistently throughout the entire interaction with the device?
Edge panels is turned off in settings, yet I can still see and access it.
Signal is very weak in areas my Pixel 2 had no issues.
jivy26 said:
One day into my N9750 and I'm ready to sell it. Anyone else experiencing lag fairly consistently throughout the entire interaction with the device?
Edge panels is turned off in settings, yet I can still see and access it.
Signal is very weak in areas my Pixel 2 had no issues.
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I guess something is not ok in your device: signal strength and smoothness are the state of the art for now
Yes no lag,Awesome device. Despite having an exynos processor,it's very smooth. Although signal strength is better in Xs Max.
Your device must indeed be a faulty one, go claim warranty ASAP
On the contrary, this One UI is the best non-stock Android UI I've ever used, and on the Note 10 plus, it's flying like a rocket.
jivy26 said:
One day into my N9750 and I'm ready to sell it. Anyone else experiencing lag fairly consistently throughout the entire interaction with the device?
Edge panels is turned off in settings, yet I can still see and access it.
Signal is very weak in areas my Pixel 2 had no issues.
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I personally don't get any lag that I've noticed even when running in medium power saving mode and playing asphalt 9.
I would think since you pretty much just set up the phone it might still be syncing data to Google servers or Samsung cloud or somewhere else. Overtime it will sort itself out when it finish syncing your data.
But you can try:
Turn off auto sync in accounts section and turn on data saver in the data usage section. Restart your phone and see if that helps.
If it doesn't try this.
Back up your data, do a factory reset, restore your data, do not restore settings. Reinstall your apps, do not restore them unless you need to.
I don't know what to say about signal strength other than to call your carrier and have them switch you to a new sim card preferably the one that came with the phone. Couple years ago this helped me not sure if it will for you.
jivy26 said:
One day into my N9750 and I'm ready to sell it. Anyone else experiencing lag fairly consistently throughout the entire interaction with the device?
Edge panels is turned off in settings, yet I can still see and access it.
Signal is very weak in areas my Pixel 2 had no issues.
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I have lag on the default launcher. I used Lawnchair 2 for the first month of owning the device and have used Nova prime the past 2 weeks and on both of those things run smooth with almost no instances of ui lag. I don't know why, but the stock launcher causes my phone to lag. Thankfully this hasn't been an issue for me since I never planned on using the stock launcher anyway.
I haven't experienced any signal issues and it seems to be on par with my pixel 2xl and oneplus 6t.
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I have lag on the default launcher. I used Lawnchair 2 for the first month of owning the device and have used Nova prime the past 2 weeks and on both of those things run smooth with almost no instances of ui lag. I don't know why, but the stock launcher causes my phone to lag. Thankfully this hasn't been an issue for me since I never planned on using the stock launcher anyway.
I haven't experienced any signal issues and it seems to be on par with my pixel 2xl and oneplus 6t.
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Do you mind switching back to the OneUI just to test if the lag still exists?
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Do you mind switching back to the OneUI just to test if the lag still exists?
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Yes, it's still lagging. I mainly notice frame drops when leaving apps. Opening them is smooth but closing them is choppy. Also opening the folders and app drawer lags sometimes. It's unusable for me.
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Yes, it's still lagging. I mainly notice frame drops when leaving apps. Opening them is smooth but closing them is choppy. Also opening the folders and app drawer lags sometimes. It's unusable for me.
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Oh wow even opening folders lags for you? That is crazy to hear. Smooth as silk here for me. By the way what you have, Exynos or Snapdragon?
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Oh wow even opening folders lags for you? That is crazy to hear. Smooth as silk here for me. By the way what you have, Exynos or Snapdragon?
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Snapdragon.
Yeah, it's weird because it runs so smooth on third party launchers. It's the smoothest running device I've had but for some reason the stock launcher is laggy junk. But it's no worries for me because I don't like it anyway. It lagged from day one but I never did a factory reset and I also did a transfer from my OP6T when first setting it up. Once we get Android 10 I'll probably do a reset. It's fine as it is now.
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Snapdragon.
Yeah, it's weird because it runs so smooth on third party launchers. It's the smoothest running device I've had but for some reason the stock launcher is laggy junk. But it's no worries for me because I don't like it anyway. It lagged from day one but I never did a factory reset and I also did a transfer from my OP6T when first seeing it up. Once we get Android 10 I'll probably do a reset. It's fine as it is now.
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Ah I see, did you by chance restore launcher settings from your 6T?
When they release Android 10 I'm sure they're going to F something up as always. The only thing I might be looking forward to to the decoupling of the gesture controls from Samsung's launcher.....it's actually the only reason why I'm still using it.
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Ah I see, did you by chance restore launcher settings from your 6T?
When they release Android 10 I'm sure they're going to F something up as always. The only thing I might be looking forward to to the decoupling of the gesture controls from Samsung's launcher.....it's actually the only reason why I'm still using it.
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I think I did restore my launcher settings from the OP6T. I can't remember for sure now, but I think so. I need to mess with my mothers Note 10+ and see if her's lags on the stock launcher. I got both of us one on a BOGO deal through Verizon. I never thought to test her's to see how it's running. I think I set her up on Lawnchair 2 so the stock launcher on her N10+ is probably still on it's default settings.
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I think I did restore my launcher settings from the OP6T. I can't remember for sure now, but I think so. I need to mess with my mothers Note 10+ and see if her's lags on the stock launcher. I got both of us one on a BOGO deal through Verizon. I never thought to test her's to see how it's running. I think I set her up on Lawnchair 2 so the stock launcher on her N10+ is probably still on it's default settings.
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Ah I also did bogo with the Note 8.
But how did it go with your mother's phone, same lag as yours?
The only 'laggy' part of the UI that I see is the rotation animation it feels like 15-30fps and it triggers me, everything else is super smooth
i dont know why they have 1X animation as default.
i always change my phones to .5x for animation scale under developer options.
lennie said:
Ah I also did bogo with the Note 8.
But how did it go with your mother's phone, same lag as yours?
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I just checked hers this morning and it's running smooth.
EarlZ said:
The only 'laggy' part of the UI that I see is the rotation animation it feels like 15-30fps and it triggers me, everything else is super smooth
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My rotation animation is always fluid. So strange how the devices vary so much. Try running a third party launcher like Nova or Lawnchair 2. My phone runs smoother with them.
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i dont know why they have 1X animation as default.
i always change my phones to .5x for animation scale under developer options.
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I always set mine to 1.5 and have since 2012 .5 is jarring to look at. I've never understood why people like .5 so much, but teto.
I am sure something seriously wrong with your device. Can you give it for replacement? Because from my experience in last month or so its been amazing. Never had any issue as such
Having the same crappy experience with Note 10+ 5G (SM-N976B). I switched from Note 8 which never had any issues. Processor is Exynos. It's laggy in almost any scenario despite having enough RAM at all times. I can't figure it out. Samsung suport says to factory reset (of course..) which i will probably do eventually before selling it. I can't remember the last time an android device was this bad for me.. Now that i came across this thread, i'll try a different launcher see if it helps.. All in all, i'm probably gonna get my first iphone next. I'm passed the time in my life when i was happy to troubleshoot and flash roms and stuff..
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Yes no lag,Awesome device. Despite having an exynos processor,it's very smooth. Although signal strength is better in Xs Max.
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I have same processor I'm not even going to try spell it haha
Here is what I notice time to time. The screen kind of Flickrs or just lags for a split second. Anyone else notice it while on 120hz, anyone know of a solution?
S20 plus US model.
I have the exact same problem. It often happens when I am scrolling.
It is as if it freezes for a split second and then it catches up creating some kind of ghosty lag. Is that the same as your experiencing?
Strange thing is that - before using s20 ultra - I also noticed it on the galaxy S10 since the Android 10 update.
S20 Ultra - EU Model (exynos)
I have noticed that on my Exynos S20 as well, but it only happens when the phone hits 38-39 degrees Celsius, so I am assuming throttling is responsible
That's interesting. Any suggestions for a good app to keep track of the temperature? Or can I see it somewhere in standard settings?
negruj said:
That's interesting. Any suggestions for a good app to keep track of the temperature? Or can I see it somewhere in standard settings?
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Perf Z, which is a plugin for Game Plugins on Galaxy Store. If it is unavailable in your region, google it and the first result will link you to it.
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fearbasel04 said:
Here is what I notice time to time. The screen kind of Flickrs or just lags for a split second. Anyone else notice it while on 120hz, anyone know of a solution?
S20 plus US model.
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I kind of assumed this only happens on the Exynos version, for which reason I wanted to sell mine and get a Snapdragon variant. Interesting to know that it happens to both variants. I assumed and read some reports that this issue was fixed in the ATE6 update, but I doubt it. Maybe I should have just bought a OnePlus 8 Pro
Not seeing this with my S20U Exynos, but I have it set to High Performance 24/7 also on the latest ATE7 June 1st update
Thanks for the feedback. What settings do you address for high performance?
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Thanks for the feedback. What settings do you address for high performance?
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I just turned on high performance, set to FHD with 120Hz and left it at that, dark mode too if it makes any difference, I leave adaptive brightness enabled too
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Not seeing this with my S20U Exynos, but I have it set to High Performance 24/7 also on the latest ATE7 June 1st update
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This stuttering to me happens only after prolonged use. It is not easily noticeable
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This stuttering to me happens only after prolonged use. It is not easily noticeable
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I'm browsing and using different things on the phone most of the day, still never noticed anything like it, 120hz is butter smooth with pretty much everything other than known stuttery apps like the play store but that's the app not the phone
That happened to me when I used Tasker to dynamically switch between 120/60 Hz on per-app basis. I disabled that task, set to 120 Hz permanently, and haven't seen the screen flash since.
I have noticed a stutter when scrolling through the Gallery thumbnails.
Europe version (exynos) and no flicker
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I have noticed a stutter when scrolling through the Gallery thumbnails.
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Mine too... after scrolling through the gallery, the touch screen seems to be stuttering even in homepage when i try to swipe left and right.... the problem is gone when i restarted the phone.... did you experience this too?
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Mine too... after scrolling through the gallery, the touch screen seems to be stuttering even in homepage when i try to swipe left and right.... the problem is gone when i restarted the phone.... did you experience this too?
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When that stuttering starts, it happens across the whole device, it only stops when the phone cools down. I have stopped using 120Hz mode just cause of this reason. The Exynos is a real mess, gets to above 40 Celsius from normal browsing. I'm surprised so little people have noticed this 120 stutter.
I have this stutter too. Especially noticeable while scrolling through the gallery, Apps like twitter and reddit...
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When that stuttering starts, it happens across the whole device, it only stops when the phone cools down. I have stopped using 120Hz mode just cause of this reason. The Exynos is a real mess, gets to above 40 Celsius from normal browsing. I'm surprised so little people have noticed this 120 stutter.
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Because its not there for most people, summer here, using the phone most of the day, no slowdown or stuttering ever, Exynos S20U
Try a factory reset
To the poster above, you cannot blame the phone for 3rd party buggy apps stuttering, try a better twitter app like Owly, and Joey for reddit
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Because its not there for most people, summer here, using the phone most of the day, no slowdown or stuttering ever, Exynos S20U
Try a factory reset
To the poster above, you cannot blame the phone for 3rd party buggy apps stuttering, try a better twitter app like Owly, and Joey for reddit
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Factory reset it 3 times. This is a thing that also happens to Snapdragon users, so the blame is also on Samsung's software, as it starts happening at a certain temperature.
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Factory reset it 3 times. This is a thing that also happens to Snapdragon users, so the blame is also on Samsung's software, as it starts happening at a certain temperature.
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Like I say, not for everyone or there would be dozens of long threads all about the same thing, seems to be limited to just a few people, have a look at the manufacturering date using Samsung Phone INFO app, the earlier ones seem to have issues that the newer ones don't seem to have
Mine is 3rd April 2020 and does not suffer any slowdowns nor gets very hot even in summer playing games / videos
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Like I say, not for everyone or there would be dozens of long threads all about the same thing, seems to be limited to just a few people, have a look at the manufacturering date using Samsung Phone INFO app, the earlier ones seem to have issues that the newer ones don't seem to have
Mine is 3rd April 2020 and does not suffer any slowdowns nor gets very hot even in summer playing games / videos
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Mine is a regular S20 built in 28th of February. Mind if I ask where did you reach this conclusion that earlier models have this issue. Thanks
I am starting to think that it isn't. My initial assumption was that it was a quirk of the adaptive refresh rate that would be quickly addressed either by fixing it or offering a fixed 90 or 120hz option.
A couple of months in and my OnePlus 9 pro is still pretty laggy when scrolling so I am thinking that it is either not an easy fix, that OnePlus fear the battery hit or that it is a hardware issue that cannot be fixed at all.
Thoughts?
I'm not seeing any lag in scrolling in apps. Where and what apps do you having laggy scrolling?
No scrolling lag here so far on my LE2125
Try factory reset. I encountered strange lags all day before and a factory reset solved it.
It is subtle so your average user may not notice it but it is there across the board in most apps where I scroll including the google feed to the left of the home page. Maybe lag is the wrong word more of a stutter and as I said I was initially convinced it was to do with a poorly implemented dynamic refresh rate, it may well be but I was hoping they would have fixed it by now.
My Exynos S21 ultra feels smoother and generally faster which is not something I thought I'd ever find myself saying about a OnePlus phone!
It may get better with future firmware updates. Chrome is the worst case probably atm. Huge amounts of frame drops in that app. Btw. phone has been reset quite a few times already.
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It may get better with future firmware updates. Chrome is the worst case probably atm. Huge amounts of frame drops in that app. Btw. phone has been reset quite a few times already.
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I’d like to see a fixed 90 or 120 hz option, that would at least confirm if this is a wider issue than the dynamic refresh rate.
I find some of that stutter when there's a video playing in the screen while scrolling, both in Chrorme and Reddit.
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It is subtle so your average user may not notice it but it is there across the board in most apps where I scroll including the google feed to the left of the home page. Maybe lag is the wrong word more of a stutter and as I said I was initially convinced it was to do with a poorly implemented dynamic refresh rate, it may well be but I was hoping they would have fixed it by now.
My Exynos S21 ultra feels smoother and generally faster which is not something I thought I'd ever find myself saying about a OnePlus phone!
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This is 100% correct. I have an Exynos S21 Ultra and a 9 Pro. Even with an awesome custom kernel for this, the S21 Ultra feels smoother. In fact way smoother. I don't know what voodoo and wizardry Samsung did. It might be something to do with Samsung using energy _step governor.
I know what you're talking about, and with the last update, it feels vetter. The stutter got better, but the inertia of scrolling when you wipe your finger is still slow
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I know what you're talking about, and with the last update, it feels vetter. The stutter got better, but the inertia of scrolling when you wipe your finger is still slow
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It's not just the inertia. Scrolling accelerates slower and even when you, after flicking the **** out of the list reach the faster speed it does not scroll that fast. Just like the guy in the video I came from 7 Pro and the difference almost causes pain to me:
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It's not just the inertia. Scrolling accelerates slower and even when you, after flicking the **** out of the list reach the faster speed it does not scroll that fast. Just like the guy in the video I came from 7 Pro and the difference almost causes pain to me:
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And then there are people who says it's normal and it's ok for them
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And then there are people who says it's normal and it's ok for them
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It is absolutely ok for me if OP decides that the majority of users does prefer a slower scrolling. However this is nothing you can cover up front when considering to buy a phone and when you are busy getting apps and configurations to work scrolling is something you notice later.
I'd be perfectly fine with an option to customize like "scrolling behaviour" where I can set it to either "old OP phones" or simply slide some bars to configure accelleration, max velocity and sensitivity.
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It is absolutely ok for me if OP decides that the majority of users does prefer a slower scrolling. However this is nothing you can cover up front when considering to buy a phone and when you are busy getting apps and configurations to work scrolling is something you notice later.
I'd be perfectly fine with an option to customize like "scrolling behaviour" where I can set it to either "old OP phones" or simply slide some bars to configure accelleration, max velocity and sensitivity.
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Sure a slider would be nice, but one thing is sure too, that your new phone cant be slower than the old one, or feel slower or even stutter
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Sure a slider would be nice, but one thing is sure too, that your new phone cant be slower than the old one, or feel slower or even stutter
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That's what frustrates me so much. The new phone stutters almost never and is slightly faster everywhere even though the 7 Pro was fast as f***, but scrolling feels like using a 10 year old phone on steroids (120 Hz).
On the one hand I am happy someone else has these problems, which might lead to OP fixing this, but on the other hand I'd wish it was some software issue due to rooting which would be something I could fix myself.
I already opened a request at Oneplus' service and I'll keep monitoring this and other threads for solutions. If I stumble upon some interesting news I will update here as well. Have a good day!