[Q] NFC Chip in M9 - One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Does anybody know what kind of NFC chip is included in One M9? Especially does it support Mifare ? Does it support all kind of known integration with mobile payment - HCE, Google Wallet, mobile operator SIM-centric payments?

I suspect you need to look elsewhere for that info:
https://members.nfcworld.com/ask-the-experts/

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[Q] NFC support?

I heard that the Mango update enabled NFC support. And I know the N9 supports it.
Just wondering if NFC is on board so it can be used when Isis launches this year.
Maroon Mushroom said:
I heard that the Mango update enabled NFC support. And I know the N9 supports it.
Just wondering if NFC is on board so it can be used when Isis launches this year.
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was wondering the same thing. I came across a few sites that said the whole lumia series has hidden NFC and is waiting for a update for it. specifically the lumia 610 was stated but if the lowest ranged phone of the lumia series has hidden nfc why wouldn't the highest range not?
since Nokia has accessories that use NFC it would be dumb for them to not put a NFC chip in these phones.

[LIST] Where to Buy NFC Tags (updated 06/29/2012)

So I've been trying to compile a well rounded list of places that sell NFC tags, for people that want to purchase tags online and locally. Here is what I have found so far, if you know of a place (especially locally) please post it in this thread and I'll try to keep the OP updated. Keep in mind that I havent ordered from all of these places, therefore I remind you that this is not an endorsement of the quality of service of any of the places listed. Buy at your own risk – as always.
GENRAL INFO:
[Q] Does my phone need NFC built-in in order to use NFC tags?
[A] Yes, at the moment, with the exception of some UK services like Barclays (afaik)
[Q] What formatting should I buy when looking for an NFC tag?
[A] As long as you are on Android 4.0.3 and above (you can use NXP Tag Writer to format on 4.0.2, thx krohnjw) you shouldn't have an issue with unformatted or NDEF formatted tags. With NFC Task Launcher and others on the Google Play Store you should be able to format your own. Pre 4.0.3 look for NDEF formatted tags, as there may be an issue formatting your own.
GOOD NFC APPS:
- NFC Task Launcher
- NFC Tagwriter by NXP
(more coming soon...at work
ONLINE RESOURCES:
androidbands.de (germany based, ships worldwide)
sparkfun.com (us based)
nfc-tag-shop.de (germany based - free shipping to germany - ships worldwide)
nfczone.net (denmark based - ships worldwide)
tagstand.com/ (us based - ships worldwide)
buynfctags.com/ (us based - ships worldwide)
rapidnfc.com/ (uk based - ships to uk & europe)
airnfc.com/ (ireland based - ships worldwide)
tagage.net/ (finland based - ships worldwide)
touchatag.com (ireland based? - **caution tags may be locked to their service**)
rfidshop.com (uk based - ships to uk & europe)
buysmartcard.com/ (asia based - ships to various countries)
tagsfordroid.com (us based - ships worldwide)
identivenfc.com (us based - ships worldwide)
nfcdog.com (uk based - ships worldwide)
toptunniste.fi (finland based - ships worldwide)
nfcnetstore.com/ (finland based)
kimtag.com (uk based)
simplenfc.com (us based)
nfctagstore.com (uk based?)
atuch.com (us based - ships worldwide)
nfclabels.com (us based)
nfc-hub.com (uk based)
aliexpress.com (wholesaler? asia based?)
www.smartcardfocus.com (various countries)
LOCAL RESOURCES:
Fry's Electronics (call store to check – mine didn't have them but I've heard other stores do. Or more likely everyone I asked just didn't know what NFC was...)
tagsfordroid has a special deal this weekend.
from the google+ page.
"All orders placed this weekend will receive the following bonus:
- 1 FREE NFC key-chain per order
- 1 FREE tag for every 5 tags purchased
Hurry, this offer ends May 21st at 11:59 EDT."
https://plus.google.com/b/103863921109677949872/103863921109677949872/posts/K6BBDqdUccM
http://www.nfczone.net
Based in Denmark and we ship worldwide. Cheap shipping options available..
Thanks! Just purchased a pack of 10 from tagsfordroid!
This NFC stuff is going to be HUGGGGEEE!!
jdudinfoo said:
Sorry for the noob question, but if i put an nfc tag on my phone will google wallet work?
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Nope. It needs to be built into the phone currently...
Just a quick note: unless touchatag has changed what they are shipping, their tags are write locked and written for use with their web service.
Airnfc.com
Hey, thanks for mentioning us.
I'm one of the co-founders at Airnfc and just want to note we ship worldwide.
If you have any questions about our products or NFC in general I'd be more than happy to answer them.
atuch.com is based in US and ships world-wide.
Foremost, thank you for mentioning us. You have compiled a very comprehensive resource list.
Just wanted to let you know that we are located in Sunnyvale, California (heart of Silicon Valley) and we ship nfc tags & smart posters world-wide.
Cheers,
-Alok - Founder of Atuch
Soon we will be on that list but with a really special stuff, witch we believe (according to our survey) will be a needing and a most have for NFC mobile enabled.
We will keep you update asap.
Cheer from Asia
If you don't mind, please add nfc-tag-shop.de on that list.
We are the first NFC Shop based in germany. Shipping in germany is free and to other countrys as low as possible
Thanks
How should these tags be formatted for an HTC one x?
JamesR913 said:
How should these tags be formatted for an HTC one x?
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It's not necessary to buy the tags pre-formatted, the One X got no problem writing to the tags
tr.slate said:
So I've been trying to compile a well rounded list of places that sell NFC tags, for people that want to purchase tags online and locally. Here is what I have found so far, if you know of a place (especially locally) please post it in this thread and I'll try to keep the OP updated. Keep in mind that I havent ordered from all of these places, therefore I remind you that this is not an endorsement of the quality of service of any of the places listed. Buy at your own risk – as always.
GENRAL INFO:
[Q] Does my phone need NFC built-in in order to use NFC tags?
[A] Yes, at the moment, with the exception of some UK services like Barclays (afaik)
[Q] What formatting should I buy when looking for an NFC tag?
[A] As long as you are on Android 4.0.2 and above you shouldn't have an issue with unformatted or NDEF formatted tags. With NFC Task Launcher and others on the Google Play Store you should be able to format your own. Pre 4.0.2 look for NDEF formatted tags, as there may be an issue formatting your own.
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Just for accuracy, the bug is present in 4.0.2, fixed in 4.0.3. If you are on 4.0-4.0.2 you can't format blank tags using Android's libraries. However NXP's Tag Writer will do manual formatting.
Sparkfun Electronics (www.sparkfun.com) also sells them! Great website also.
I wish I had known about NXP tagwriter earlier. For several months I kept telling people to either wait for 4.0.3 or install a mod. A friend just tested it and it works perfectly, format with NXP and then use NFC Task Launcher with no problem in 4.0.0-4.0.2.
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I wish I had known about NXP tagwriter earlier. For several months I kept telling people to either wait for 4.0.3 or install a mod. A friend just tested it and it works perfectly, format with NXP and then use NFC Task Launcher with no problem in 4.0.0-4.0.2.
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it also work like a charm in my Xperia S stock 2.3.X … Task launcher is quite good the only weak point it’s he use large memory tags for is instruction instead of (for example) the couple : Liveware , SmartTags from Sony witch can use Ultralight Mifare
Thanks for nice list!
Great list. Thanks!
In italy is realy difficult to find...only on web store
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA

[Q] Has anyone got the tech specs on the NFC chip in the Nexus 4 ?

I'm tempted by the new Nexus 4 but Id like to know the specifications on the NFC chip inside before I commit to buying it.
Is there anywhere that has in-depth tech specs on the device ?
Screen 4.7” 1280×768 (320ppi)
WXGA, HD IPS+
Corning® Gorilla® Glass 2
Size H: 5.27 in (133.9 mm)
W: 2.7 in (68.7 mm)
D: 0.36 in (9.1 mm)
Weight 0.31 lbs (139 g)
Cameras Main: 8MP BSI sensor, 1080p video
Front: 1.3MP, 720p video
Face recognition
Memory 8GB or 16GB (formatted capacity will be less)
Chipset Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 Pro 1.5GHz (Adreno 320 GPU)
RAM 2GB
Sensors Accelerometer, Compass, Ambient light, Proximity, Gyroscope, Pressure, GPS
Network Unlocked GSM/UMTS/HSPA+
GSM/EDGE/GPRS (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
3G (850, 900, 1700, 1900, 2100 MHz)
HSPA+ 42 Mbps
Wireless Wireless display on a Miracast compatible HD TV
Dual-band Wi-Fi (802.11 b/g/n)
Bluetooth
NFC (Android Beam)
Power Wireless charging (use any Qi-compatible charger)
2,100 mAH Li-polymer battery
Standby: up to 250 hours
Talk time: up to 10 hours
Music playback: up to 40 hours
Video playback: up to 8 hours
Web browsing: up to 7 hours
OS Android Jelly Bean (4.2)
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-- http://techcrunch.com/
As far as I know, there aren't any "specs" on NFC-chips.
It uses the BCM20793 http://www.broadcom.com/products/NFC/NFC-Solutions/BCM2079x-Family
This is somewhat worrying/interesting - pretty much every other NFC-enabled Android phone uses NXP's chips. What if this guarantees that network SIM-based payments won't be compatible?
mifare
LoveNFC said:
It uses the BCM20793 http://www.broadcom.com/products/NFC/NFC-Solutions/BCM2079x-Family
This is somewhat worrying/interesting - pretty much every other NFC-enabled Android phone uses NXP's chips. What if this guarantees that network SIM-based payments won't be compatible?
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Broadcom nfc chips support multiple Secure Elements in one device. (competition for ISIS and Google?)
Devices with a broadcom nfc chip probably can't read/write Mifare Classic tags. Other (mifare) nfc tags wil be no problem.
Yeah, since they didn't use an NXP chip, the Nexus 4 (and Nexus 10) will not read/write Mifare Classic 1K NFC Tags (because technically they don't adhere to the NFC Forum specifications). The bummer on that is the next best option is the NTAG 203 which has about 1/5 the memory but cost more. The good news is the memory is enough for most task launching NFC apps to do most things you'd want. The bad news is it's often not enough to create a Vcard. The other next best option are the Topaz 512byte chips, but they are significantly more expensive.
I just found this out the hard way when one of my customers contacted me about his Mifare 1K tags that weren't working with his Nexus 4. I'm having new tags manufactured in the NTAG format but the Mifare 1K are still best for most people since there's no such thing as too much memory if the cost is the same or less.
hollywoodfrodo said:
Yeah, since they didn't use an NXP chip, the Nexus 4 (and Nexus 10) will not read/write Mifare Classic 1K NFC Tags (because technically they don't adhere to the NFC Forum specifications). The bummer on that is the next best option is the NTAG 203 which has about 1/5 the memory but cost more. The good news is the memory is enough for most task launching NFC apps to do most things you'd want. The bad news is it's often not enough to create a Vcard. The other next best option are the Topaz 512byte chips, but they are significantly more expensive.
I just found this out the hard way when one of my customers contacted me about his Mifare 1K tags that weren't working with his Nexus 4. I'm having new tags manufactured in the NTAG format but the Mifare 1K are still best for most people since there's no such thing as too much memory if the cost is the same or less.
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Desfires are also an option for more space (1k, 2k, 4k) they are just not as widely available currently.
Hello, MIFARE 1K is work on my Nexus 4, read/write, use NFC Tack Launcher.
Does anyone know if they can read / write basic ISO 14443 A and B Cards / Tags?
brium13 said:
Hello, MIFARE 1K is work on my Nexus 4, read/write, use NFC Tack Launcher.
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You can't actually write to the NFC, but the task launcher remembers the tag and assigns a function to it
I want to write a tag, that can be read by both the galaxy s3 and the nexus 4 to check in on Facebook. Can I write one with the n4, and is the n203 capable enough? Seems a little low memory for a check in data string.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2
Does anyone know what NFC standards the BCM20793 in the Nexus 4 supports? Broadcom doesn't actually post the datasheets for their products online.
ShensMobile said:
Does anyone know what NFC standards the BCM20793 in the Nexus 4 supports? Broadcom doesn't actually post the datasheets for their products online.
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I think the Broadcom chip is NFC Forum type 1-4 compliant, which means it's able to use all NFC tag types Topaz, Mifare Ultralight C, Mifare S50 and the UPM Ntag. What it is NOT compatible with are the Mifare Classic NFC tags.
The NXP PN65 chip which is on most devices OTHER than Nexus 4 and 10 is able to use 1 additional NFC type which is Mifare Classic. Mifare Classic is actually the thing that's NOT NFC Forum compliant.
The new Samsung S4 also ships with a Broadcom chip so it's likely it's also not compatible with Mifare Classic tags.
Cheap Topaz 512 NFC Tags for Samsung Galaxy S4
Reached this thread searching for Cheap Topaz 512 NFC Tags for my S4 and did a little more research
Tagger was giving a pack of 10 for $10(ca) + Free Shipping on Black-Friday, I think they will be repeating the same deal on Cyber Monday Sale
Regular price is $24.95 / 10
BuyNFCtags is selling the stickers and cards for as low as $0.80 + Economy $2.04 Shipping
Identivenfc is selling Blank NFC Tags - Type 1 for $1.25 + Shipping
Tagstand is selling Type 1 NFC Sticker - Topaz - Square (45mm x 45mm) for $2.10 each + Shipping
Everywhere else I found the Topaz 512 NFC Tags to be $2 or more

Moto Z Play NFC manufacturer

Hello. Does anybody knows the Moto Z Play NFC manufacturer?
My problem is: the local (where I live) transportation companies use a card ticketing system, based on Mifare Classic tag. They provided an application that allows to read, buy credits and recharge it, since the mobile device is equipped with compatible NFC chip.
Considering Mifare Classic is a standard defined by NXP, it's reasonable that a mobile device that uses a NFC chip manufactured by NFC would work with the card from the transporation companies.
Does anybody have this information?
Thanks in advance!

Do all A50 model variants have NFC or just the devices with "N" in the model No?

Do all A50 model variants have NFC or just the devices with "N" in the model No?
Trying to piece together the info on which A50 models with which firmware variants support Google Pay and Samsung Pay. For instance there's a SM-A505G and a SM-A505GN, a SM-A505F and a SM-A505FN. I was under the impression that the "N" in the model number meant the device has NFC and devices without the "N" do not?
Yes
madd0g said:
Yes
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Is there any definitive way to know which firmwares on which models support samsung pay, or which LTE bands are supported on which models? There's SAMMOBILE, but it doesn't have all A50 models listed and not sure if the LTE info is correct on there or not.
A505W supports NFC
The Canadian version A505W does support NFC. I am using one right now.
wolfy said:
The Canadian version A505W does support NFC. I am using one right now.
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No dual SIM on that one though right? Does Samsung Pay and Visual Voicemail work on your A50?
I don't think the N in the model numbers corresponds with having NFC or not. The last 5 characters of the model have something to do with the region and country.
Any mid range phone that doesn't have NFC these days should be a crime
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No dual SIM on that one though right? Does Samsung Pay and Visual Voicemail work on your A50?
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No dual sim, Samsung pay works.
My service provider doesn't use visual voicemail so I can't comment on that.
Just learned that my new A505-F / DS does NOT have NFC. I was setting up GPay and says it does not support it. Doing a search, seems that the FN does.
Also FM model have an NFC (+MTP for magnetic stripe card emulation).
cordi_b said:
Trying to piece together the info on which A50 models with which firmware variants support Google Pay and Samsung Pay. For instance there's a SM-A505G and a SM-A505GN, a SM-A505F and a SM-A505FN. I was under the impression that the "N" in the model number meant the device has NFC and devices without the "N" do not?
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There is a NFC chip in Samsung A50. The part number is GH42-06264A . So, even though the model number is same, they may manufacture with or without the hardware. If the hardware is there, they may have disabled it. For ex: All Non-US Mobile phone manufacturers were asked to disable NFC chip by the US government.
Also, You need DRM keys to enable the hardware. As far as I know, there are no such keys released by Samsung

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