This is a public service announcement to save people headaches. RTFM. You cannot ever now, or in the past, take an OTA with a custom recovery. You must always have a stock recovery and system to do so. Period. If you do install a custom recovery, freeze the update center with Titanium, Rom Toolbox, or the like, so that you will remember you have a custom recovery and not accidentally take an update.
I hope this helps someone out there
So what is the simplest way to update to the OTA firmware with a phone that is rooted with twrp, and a custom ROM? Is there a way to disable twrp without having to un-root? That way it might be possible to update to the OTA firmware. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Grizzie said:
So what is the simplest way to update to the OTA firmware with a phone that is rooted with twrp, and a custom ROM? Is there a way to disable twrp without having to un-root? That way it might be possible to update to the OTA firmware. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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.this is referring to stock software updates, unless it's updates of the rom, which you won't even receive if you're on a custom rom...to update a custom rom, you just download the updated version, or the OTA if the rom is so capable, and flash it in twrp like the first version you downloaded
Grizzie said:
So what is the simplest way to update to the OTA firmware with a phone that is rooted with twrp, and a custom ROM? Is there a way to disable twrp without having to un-root? That way it might be possible to update to the OTA firmware. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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Wait for a flashable zip for TWRP. You can revert to stock to take an OTA. Being rooted is not a problem per se, it's the custom recovery and having non stock roms. In theory you could flash the stock recovery and bootloader and then take an OTA. However, not having stock system/apps could likely create havoc
In case you do happen to try and install it, here's a fix for your bootloops: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=60117595
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Maybe a noobish question, but im sorry
As the title says : if i root the phone, will i be able to recieve updates OTA ?
edit : and same question : if i get cwr (for nandroid backups) will i be able to recieve OTA updates?
Thanks guys
So long as you're running the stock rom, you should still get OTA updates. They may or may not break root, but you'll have to risk that. If you're running a custom ROM, then you probably will not get OTA updates, but you can of course update your ROM as per the developer builds.
You will remove root if you install an OTA, and I have heard of people actually bricking their phones installing an OTA with root.
installing CWM will break OTA even if you're on the stock ROM because it flashes in stock recovery, not CWM.
...and from the mixed responses you can tell that it wasn't really a noob question. (all answers were partially correct, btw).
The update will still get pushed to your phone, based on the build version of your phone. The custom recovery will fail to install, at which point you can simply install it yourself by performing a manual flash via recovery.
Depending on the extent of the update, you may or may not lose root, and possibly even your custom recovery. Your best option is to manually flash an update, then the su.zip, and I've also put together flashable a script to prevent your custom recovery from reverting to stock at your next boot (I'll post it when I get chance). Flash all the files while in CWM, and you're golden!
I have reached maximum thanks-per-day, otherwise i would give a thanks to all of you..
So, i still have few questions :
1) If i root, get custom CWM, but stock rom, will i still be able to SEE ota update, and to DL it over the OTA (not flash it)?
2) Can i brick my device with flashing ota , while rooted and with custom CWM ?
Thanks in advance
-yes it will still show up.
-it won't brick your device, but the update will fail, and you'll have to pull battery to gay back into the os.
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I have stock ROM installed and stock recovery and I want to keep that way.
So my questions is, is it possible to root my device while keeping everything stock and get OTA updates without problems.
The only thing I need rooting for is to use Market Enabler.
You need to flash a custom recovery to root your phone but that won't enable your phone to get OTA udates (only notification), so when you get an update notification you have to reflash your stock recovery and unroot your phone to apply OTA updates.
omar_bazaraa said:
You need to flash a custom recovery to root your phone but that won't enable your phone to get OTA udates (only notification), so when you get an update notification you have to reflash your stock recovery and unroot your phone to apply OTA updates.
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If you wanted to unroot and so flash a stock recovery, how would you know which one to use? Is there a set recovery for each version of the phone, or is it the software version? So you'd just get the latest version you can find? For the phone of course. Thanks.
Slaxington said:
If you wanted to unroot and so flash a stock recovery, how would you know which one to use? Is there a set recovery for each version of the phone, or is it the software version? So you'd just get the latest version you can find? For the phone of course. Thanks.
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Flash the stock recovery of the software version your on
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Read the portal news, http://www.xda-developers.com/android/root-many-ics-and-jelly-bean-android-devices/
A dev just release exploit based rooting method, you might wanna to try it since you wish to keep stock recovery.
However, you might loose root access after OTA as they always patch the root access back. Simply use some root keeper or method from above(if working) to gain back root access.
UPDATES: seems we have solid devices, LINK. You may try it, though.
I'm on stock rooted Sense --401.4 and I want to update to --401.5 version. I have s-off, and custom recovery, and am rooted.
Although I have a constant "system update" notification on my notification bar, I really cannot update because of the custom recovery. Is there any fully stock version of the latest ROM available which I can flash to update? Mike1986 hasn't provided it yet. Is there any other way to update easily? I really don't want to switch to custom ROMs for the update, and I really don't want to factory reset my phone right now.
Is there any way we can flash OTA update .zips? If yes, I really cannot find them on XDA, so can anyone guide me to them (and a guide on how to flash them?). Thank you.
You can flash stock recovery.img and then perform Update. İ tried and it is working. But you lose root. After Update Flash Custom recovery and supersu zip.
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You can flash stock recovery.img and then perform Update. İ tried and it is working. But you lose root. After Update Flash Custom recovery and supersu zip.
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Thanks, I'll try this
Do we have to revert to stock Rom to upgrade to lollipop? Was wondering if it's the same with the htc eye update wherein you have to go back to stock and update manually before flashing the custom rom. I am having an extremely difficult time going back to stock for some weird reason.
For every major update on this device so far (AFAIK) HTC has updated the firmware. So yes, my guess will be that you will need to update firmware to run Sense Lollipop custom ROMs And unless you s-off and therefore able to update the firmware manually; your alternative will be to return to stock ROM and recovery and OTA to Lollipop.
Ohhh, Been trying to revert to stock but it just doesnt work. thanks
If I'm just rooted and not s off stock Rom and all that anything I need to do to get the lollipop update or just wait for it to hit my ota on my phone?
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If I'm just rooted and not s off stock Rom and all that anything I need to do to get the lollipop update or just wait for it to hit my ota on my phone?
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Just wait for it. If you're stock then you shouldn't have a problem. The only real headache will be how long you have to wait to get the OTA.
Stock: Stock ROM, Stock Recovery, No changes to system i.e no xposed framework. No deleted pre-installed apps(Facebook etc) no changes to files like platform.xml, build.prop etc.
Being rooted on the other hand shouldn't cause any problems.
I just got an OTA notification for 5.1 too. I'm running GPE RUU rooted 5.0.1 with the latest TWRP recovery.
I got the firmware off of the link below
http://graffixnyc.com/m8.php
It has the stock recovery listed as version 3.11.1700.5. Should i flash this version or a more recent one?
Thanks in advanced for the help!
To flash the OTA you HAVE to bee 100% stock, not even root. OTA updates changed in Lollipop and if anything is different from the original system image it'll fail
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To flash the OTA you HAVE to bee 100% stock, not even root. OTA updates changed in Lollipop and if anything is different from the original system image it'll fail
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I don't think that is the case regarding root. I think installing the update will mean I will loose root but as long as I have a stock recovery and system it should install. I'm just not sure about which version recovery to use..
bentez2003 said:
I don't think that is the case regarding root. I think installing the update will mean I will loose root but as long as I have a stock recovery and system it should install. I'm just not sure about which version recovery to use..
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Nope, it's ALL changed. In Lollipop if you're rooted, it'll fail. You HAVE to be 100% stock. It wasn't an issue pre-Lollipop, though
EddyOS said:
Nope, it's ALL changed. In Lollipop if you're rooted, it'll fail. You HAVE to be 100% stock. It wasn't an issue pre-Lollipop, though
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Does that mean that the only way to upgrade now for people who use root, Xposed, etc. is to do a Titanium Backup and then run a full RUU upgrade to the new image?
Backup your data, restore your stock backup (which you all made, of course), restore stock recovery and then apply the update and restore your data/re-root