Hi all!
Just picked up an M9 this week... Had an M8 prior to that. I've been reading through the forums and spent some time on the M8 forums flashing, testing, and customizing the phone with Roms. I've been reading about the M9 and have noticed some mention that Verizon is firm about a locked bootloader and all. I was curious how on the M8, S-off and unlocking the bootloader was achieved if Verizon is so strict about keeping the phone locked down? Thanks for any responses in advance Looking forward to customizing this beast of a phone. Thank you to all the Devs that make all of this possible!
Cheers,
Ren
hackjunk said:
Hi all!
Just picked up an M9 this week... Had an M8 prior to that. I've been reading through the forums and spent some time on the M8 forums flashing, testing, and customizing the phone with Roms. I've been reading about the M9 and have noticed some mention that Verizon is firm about a locked bootloader and all. I was curious how on the M8, S-off and unlocking the bootloader was achieved if Verizon is so strict about keeping the phone locked down? Thanks for any responses in advance Looking forward to customizing this beast of a phone. Thank you to all the Devs that make all of this possible!
Cheers,
Ren
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The M8 was like this when it first came out. Yes Verizon is strict. From what I have been told they are trying to find a Temporary Root Exploit to be able to S-Off and all that goodness. We just have to be patient like the First Model M8 people were. Luckily when I first got my M8 it was rootable and stuff. So just be patient, or feel free to donate to jcase and beaups to help buy them energy drinks.
Everything @Balian67 said an also one tip. Don't do any updates till you are s-off as updates could cause exploit not to work if there is a exploit released.
Tigerstown said:
Everything @Balian67 said an also one tip. Don't do any updates till you are s-off as updates could cause exploit not to work if there is a exploit released.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What i said and what this guy said. Friends don't let friends take updates without it being pre-rooted.
Balian67 said:
What i said and what this guy said. Friends don't let friends take updates without it being pre-rooted.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Glad I read this thread, didn't even think about updates changing things for getting rooted and eventually S-Off!
chayos00 said:
Glad I read this thread, didn't even think about updates changing things for getting rooted and eventually S-Off!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
As soon as im s-off i flash Aosp style roms and never look back....but tbh...sense isnt bugging me like touchwiz did..not that ill stay on stock sense but it isnt atrocious
Balian67 said:
What i said and what this guy said. Friends don't let friends take updates without it being pre-rooted.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Balian67 said:
As soon as im s-off i flash Aosp style roms and never look back....but tbh...sense isn't bugging me like touchwiz did..not that ill stay on stock sense but it isn't atrocious
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah, I'm liking the stock setup, but I just like having that option of I wanted!
Balian67 said:
As soon as im s-off i flash Aosp style roms and never look back....but tbh...sense isnt bugging me like touchwiz did..not that ill stay on stock sense but it isnt atrocious
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Totally agree with this!! Oh my lord is there a difference between Touchwiz and Sense. I did go back to Nova Launcher for the actual day-to-day launcher but the framework is...I dare to say...enjoyable to use. This is my first HTC phone, although I've worked on a few for friends, but I'm loving it so far.
xgerryx said:
Totally agree with this!! Oh my lord is there a difference between Touchwiz and Sense. I did go back to Nova Launcher for the actual day-to-day launcher but the framework is...I dare to say...enjoyable to use. This is my first HTC phone, although I've worked on a few for friends, but I'm loving it so far.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So i bought an M9 for myself and a S6 for my wife. This is first i have used touchwiz, it is not intuitive whatsoever. I am happy with my m9
aer0zer0 said:
So i bought an M9 for myself and a S6 for my wife. This is first i have used touchwiz, it is not intuitive whatsoever. I am happy with my m9
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The way Samsung complicates settings drives me bonkers. It just doesn't need to be that complicated.
I'm in S6 trial week. Lol. So far not impressed. The so called super snappy touchwiz has a laggy keyboard whether stock or google. Also don't get me started on Chrome browser lag. Little things here and there that are non existent on even the m8. Overall its snappy but it still has annoying hicups here and there. Gonna take a miracle for me not to exchange for an m9 next weekend.
I had an M7 but not an M8 and had put AOSP on it because Sense just didn't feel right to me.
I bought an M9 because of the retail employee deal of no-contract for $300 and trading in for the new one every year. Ditched my G3 and haven't looked back. I love Sense 7. Not only is the UI smooth and really easy to use, the whole design language flows so well with the physical design of the phone. I don't think I'll be putting a custom ROM on this but I would love root for an ad blocker. I forgot how many ads there were on phones until I had to use this M9 without root.
Is anyone planning on making a bounty thread?
PizzaSauce said:
I had an M7 but not an M8 and had put AOSP on it because Sense just didn't feel right to me.
I bought an M9 because of the retail employee deal of no-contract for $300 and trading in for the new one every year. Ditched my G3 and haven't looked back. I love Sense 7. Not only is the UI smooth and really easy to use, the whole design language flows so well with the physical design of the phone. I don't think I'll be putting a custom ROM on this but I would love root for an ad blocker. I forgot how many ads there were on phones until I had to use this M9 without root.
Is anyone planning on making a bounty thread?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No need really. Bounty threads are worthless distractions too.
For example, one of the last ones claimed only netted the receiver 30% of all promised funds.
Sunshine will likely include vzw some time in the near future...you probably didn't use it on your m7 but it's a standalone app and costs $25.
dottat said:
No need really. Bounty threads are worthless distractions too.
For example, one of the last ones claimed only netted the receiver 30% of all promised funds.
Sunshine will likely include vzw some time in the near future...you probably didn't use it on your m7 but it's a standalone app and costs $25.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Worth every $0.01 (2500 pennies).
dottat said:
No need really. Bounty threads are worthless distractions too.
For example, one of the last ones claimed only netted the receiver 30% of all promised funds.
Sunshine will likely include vzw some time in the near future...you probably didn't use it on your m7 but it's a standalone app and costs $25.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well, it worked on the S5, that's for sure. Leading to the most prolific exploit in android history with Towelroot, so I wouldn't say pointless. I'm not sure the exact % that paid their pledges, but I paid mine. The ads in apps and webpages are really starting to bug me honestly, and I miss my battery-saving apps and xposed modules. I jumped to HTC from the S5 specially to restore bootloader access and ultimately CM-based ROM's to my phone experience. I guess leaving Verizon would have been a more thoughtful choice, but oh well. If anyone starts a bounty thread (and yes I know almost everyone thinks its a bad idea), I'm in.
That being said, much respect to the people working on a root method for us currently. You guys make my little phone hacking hobby possible, so thank you.
xgerryx said:
Well, it worked on the S5, that's for sure. Leading to the most prolific exploit in android history with Towelroot, so I wouldn't say pointless. I'm not sure the exact % that paid their pledges, but I paid mine. The ads in apps and webpages are really starting to bug me honestly, and I miss my battery-saving apps and xposed modules. I jumped to HTC from the S5 specially to restore bootloader access and ultimately CM-based ROM's to my phone experience. I guess leaving Verizon would have been a more thoughtful choice, but oh well. If anyone starts a bounty thread (and yes I know almost everyone thinks its a bad idea), I'm in.
That being said, much respect to the people working on a root method for us currently. You guys make my little phone hacking hobby possible, so thank you.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't know exactly how true it was, but when I first got my M8 and found out that I had to pay $25 to get S-OFF, at first I was hesitant...But I kept reading WHY and immediately understood and paid right away. It separates guys like us who pay their pledge from people who DON'T. As I am sure you would EASILY pay the $25 to get S-OFF. I know I would. I almost prefer it this way, because im pretty much sure it comes with tech support for those who need it. If only more americans stood by their word instead of promising things they would never fulfill. I know that this community has always been about contributing and free things to make all of our experiences better. I get that, but all too often, people take the work and claim it to be theirs. I remember a few devs (that I talked to a lot) had this problem with users of the Samsung Moment and HTC Evo 4G. So between all of the devs hard work not being appreciated (especially when they do this stuff for THEIR phone and they release it to us to enjoy and some people are always complaining or demanding features, yet they don't contribute by donating to the dev so they can buy energy drinks to keep their mind going, or beer to help relax them after they finished a massive update that fixed all the bugs and added features and stuff. Then people wonder why they have to pay $25. Well I have been a member of XDA for years, contributed a lot here or on irc chat, and I will gladly pay $25 to get S-OFF, Root, and Custom Recovery. Why? Because since the DAWN of xda, everyones phone has been made far better then what ANY manufacturer gives us. I mean seriously...I would have Android Lollipop on devices that Samsung or whoever has long gone moved on from. Why? Because of XDA, and the devs. I swear if everyone paid $25 these devs would be able to buy all sorts of devices to root for us. I know I have a Samsung Galaxy Tab Pro, and an HTC. So I appreciate it, and you know what? I consider that $25 a donation to have root on devices period. Why? Because without the people who know what they're doing, I wouldn't be able to install xposed, make entire backups of my phone (so if the device fails while on warranty), I can EASILY restore my phone. I had that happen with my old HTC Evo 4G LTE. That phone broke 3 times on me and each replacement bestbuy gave me (2), all I had to do was get S-OFF flash a custom recovery, and do a "Restore" then all my texts were there, apps were there (with data), call logs were there. I can go on. That $25 is security for me. So saying all that, I will sit here as patient as I can be to get S-OFF and when the time comes to hit the pay button, there wont be a second thought. No regrets. No more stress. Any more Andybones roms to flash.
BOOM (pardon all the grammatical errors, yall get my point.............right?)
Balian67 said:
I don't know exactly how true it was, but when I first got my M8 and found out that I had to pay $25 to get S-OFF, at first I was hesitant........................
100% on point, my friend. Well said. :good:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
sdamark said:
Balian67 said:
I don't know exactly how true it was, but when I first got my M8 and found out that I had to pay $25 to get S-OFF, at first I was hesitant........................
100% on point, my friend. Well said. :good:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm just chillin with my $25 in hand (figuratively).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Is it possible to unlock the bootloader on the verizon m9 yet?
wings516 said:
Is it possible to unlock the bootloader on the verizon m9 yet?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Doesn't seem like it and at this point it probably never will.
Sent from my HTC6535LVW using Tapatalk
Related
Edit: its been reported that at&t is indeed blocking the unlock for their version of this device.
The release of the One X has us all very excited, and there is much reason to be excited. Yet, I feel like many people don't really understand some of the issues we may be up against. Let's take into account some recent HTC phones that came out. Let's look at the Vivid and Rezound. Both of these devices did not have the option to unlock the bootloader until months after. In fact, HTC was not even planning on talking about releasing the unlock until 6 months or later after initial release of the device. We started petitions, spammed the twitters and facebooks of AT&T/Verizon and HTC. It was amazing how each just blamed eachother for the locked bootloaders. Keep in mind this was AFTER the CEO of HTC promised no more locked bootloaders. Samsung does not ship locked bootloaders either. After a few months of begging and pleading, we eventually got official HTC dev unlock. But by that time, most the devs and community were gone.
We had a few teams working very hard on cracking the Vivid/Rezound but to no avail. Apparently HTC upped their game compared to past devices, and to this day we still don't even have unofficial bootloader unlock, s off, sim unlock, etc. On AT&T, the Vivid was one of the best spec'd devices, if not the best, out at the time. Yet, due to the actions of HTC/AT&T, the development was absolutely screwed. At this point in time we have only three or four devs with ROMs, no doubt we would have had tons more if not for the locked bootloader issues.
We need to talk with HTC before the release of this device to make sure the One X doesn't get screwed as bad as the Vivid did. You guys don't know how much it sucks to wait months and months to even put a custom ROM on your phone. We need to hold HTC to their promise. Sure, we can rely on unofficial methods, but then there's always that "what if" factor if nothing happens there.
EDIT: Willyami found this, I'm happy to hear temp-root is already achieved. Yet the article still states we need bootloader unlock or S OFF for perm root...
http://www.engadget.com/2012/03/08/htc-one-x-gets-rooted-before-retail-debut/
http://www.engadget.com/2012/03/08/htc-one-x-gets-rooted-before-retail-debut/
The One X is already rooted by Modaco. So I do believe this wont be such a problem to One X.
slapshot30 said:
The release of the One X has us all very excited, and there is much reason to be excited. Yet, I feel like many people don't really understand some of the issues we may be up against. Let's take into account some recent HTC phones that came out. Let's look at the Vivid and Rezound. Both of these devices did not have the option to unlock the bootloader until months after. In fact, HTC was not even planning on talking about releasing the unlock until 6 months or later after initial release of the device. We started petitions, spammed the twitters and facebooks of AT&T/Verizon and HTC. It was amazing how each just blamed eachother for the locked bootloaders. Keep in mind this was AFTER the CEO of HTC promised no more locked bootloaders. Samsung does not ship locked bootloaders either. After a few months of begging and pleading, we eventually got official HTC dev unlock. But by that time, most the devs and community were gone.
We had a few teams working very hard on cracking the Vivid/Rezound but to no avail. Apparently HTC upped their game compared to past devices, and to this day we still don't even have unofficial bootloader unlock, s off, sim unlock, etc. On AT&T, the Vivid was one of the best spec'd devices, if not the best, out at the time. Yet, due to the actions of HTC/AT&T, the development was absolutely screwed. At this point in time we have only three or four devs with ROMs, no doubt we would have had tons more if not for the locked bootloader issues.
We need to talk with HTC before the release of this device to make sure the One X doesn't get screwed as bad as the Vivid did. You guys don't know how much it sucks to wait months and months to even put a custom ROM on your phone. We need to hold HTC to their promise. Sure, we can rely on unofficial methods, but then there's always that "what if" factor if nothing happens there.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Absolutely agree with you dude. As a result of so few devs over there, I still haven't unlocked and rooted my Vivid.
Sent from my HTC Vivid using XDA app
i think people need to enjoy the phone a bit more, than thinking about custom roms and such. That's certainly not why im buying the phone, nor is it in the discussion. Maybe months or a year i would be open to it, but right now i can see myself enjoying it stock. Especially with ICS on board.
uranis said:
i think people need to enjoy the phone a bit more, than thinking about custom roms and such. That's certainly not why im buying the phone, nor is it in the discussion. Maybe months or a year i would be open to it, but right now i can see myself enjoying it stock. Especially with ICS on board.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah, maybe for you. But this is a development site. we're here to develop and make the device as badass as possible. The phone will be enjoyed for sure. but enjoyed more with it rooted Running a CoreDroid Rom
uranis said:
i think people need to enjoy the phone a bit more, than thinking about custom roms and such. That's certainly not why im buying the phone, nor is it in the discussion. Maybe months or a year i would be open to it, but right now i can see myself enjoying it stock. Especially with ICS on board.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think a majority of the people here would agree, the ability to customize your phone beyond what the manufacturer intended is your right as a consumer....you bought the phone...right.... also I might add, a majority of the people on this website are here for rooting information and custom roms.... it is after all, a development based forum. I think this thread should be closed though, because its been noted above that the one x has been rooted.
williamyi said:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/03/08/htc-one-x-gets-rooted-before-retail-debut/
The One X is already rooted by Modaco. So I do believe this wont be such a problem to One X.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Damn, nice find. I still wonder how HTC will do with the official unlock though. They are really laggy when it comes to releasing code too.
uranis said:
i think people need to enjoy the phone a bit more, than thinking about custom roms and such. That's certainly not why im buying the phone, nor is it in the discussion. Maybe months or a year i would be open to it, but right now i can see myself enjoying it stock. Especially with ICS on board.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
lol easier to talk the talk than walk the walk. I had the same mindset you did, but two/three months of the same old thing and same old sense really sucked. Try it if you don't believe me.
420kushking said:
I think a majority of the people here would agree, the ability to customize your phone beyond what the manufacturer intended is your right as a consumer....you bought the phone...right.... also I might add, a majority of the people on this website are here for rooting information and custom roms.... it is after all, a development based forum. I think this thread should be closed though, because its been noted above that the one x has been rooted.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yea it's your choice, but the phone isn't even out yet. I just don't understand buying a phone because of what rom you could possibly get on it. Just my opinion.
Unfortunately, that is only temp root. It is not a permanent root solution. This link is the exact method described in the article and its from this forums dev section.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1562470
Sent from my HTC Vivid using XDA app
uranis said:
Yea it's your choice, but the phone isn't even out yet. I just don't understand buying a phone because of what rom you could possibly get on it. Just my opinion.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
A HUGE factor that goes into what phone I buy is how big the potential is for development. I think that's a pretty common thing to look for for most XDA'ers.
420kushking said:
I think a majority of the people here would agree, the ability to customize your phone beyond what the manufacturer intended is your right as a consumer....you bought the phone...right.... also I might add, a majority of the people on this website are here for rooting information and custom roms.... it is after all, a development based forum. I think this thread should be closed though, because its been noted above that the one x has been rooted.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's temp root, not perm root. The article states we still need S OFF or htcdev unlock for perm root.
slapshot30 said:
A HUGE factor that goes into what phone I buy is how big the potential is for development. I think that's a pretty common thing to look for for most XDA'ers.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah that's what I look for. I was lucky for getting a captivate a while back, it was my first android device and I loved doing the customization. I'll be happy with this phone but I'm really looking forward to the development.
slapshot30 said:
Damn, nice find. I still wonder how HTC will do with the official unlock though. They are really laggy when it comes to releasing code too.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
HTC have already released the source code to the Sensation ICS kernel, and it's not even properly rolled out yet. Doesn't seem laggy to me
Calm down dude!
HTC learned the hard lesson of Sensation/sgs2.
They losed 3 months of potential buyers (and that made the whole difference in sales volume) because they locked the bootloader.
sgs2 won because it was unlocked and rooted easily.
The HTC One X is already rooted thanks to Modaco, so no need to worry at all, also Mike did a custom rom already,there are many Sensation devs switching to One X...
Another pro argument might be that this will be a real flagship device. As we all know, htc released much too many phones in 2011 (close to 50 I heard in an xda-tv episode ) and they realized the problems that come with such an approach.
The vivid or the rezound might just have been skipped by most devs, some of the better are even still on the 2 year old HD2.
I really hope that this will be the next HD2, it's got all the potential to be the next best phone ever.
I believe that HTC are changing and learning. If you see the communications between them and XDA over the last year, if you see the HTCDev site, if you see the list of ICS updates, if you see the API's they are releasing, etc.
If you look at this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCXgL7MDsIc Jeff clearly says it will be unlocked.
Also I agree with their reasoning for locking the boot loader, and as long as they release the unlock tool I think its a good process to ensure only those who know and accept the consequences will use it.
PS. Also the HTC One X is not tied to a partner so it should give HTC full control of what they do with it. Were as the HTC One XL is tied to AT&T so it may mean for that device its more complicated a process to get AT&T to agree to unlock the boot loader.
The "One" series must have been made for something, didn't they say they are trying to make their phones more recognisable too? In that case, it makes perfect sense to not release 50 phones a year (or one every week), as that really tarnishes the brand
i've never unlocked a phone on htcdev, but it has a generic unlock option.
you have to submit an identifier token you can query with fastboot, and you are getting a unlock binary sent by email which you can flash with fastboot to unlock the phone. if the hboot of the phone supports this.
seems very generic to me, and i guess you can already unlock a htc-one device using this method
Edit: Ops! I am wrong... please see later posts! Sorry blubbers!
vegetaleb said:
Calm down dude!
HTC learned the hard lesson of Sensation/sgs2.
They losed 3 months of potential buyers (and that made the whole difference in sales volume) because they locked the bootloader.
sgs2 won because it was unlocked and rooted easily.
The HTC One X is already rooted thanks to Modaco, so no need to worry at all, also Mike did a custom rom already,there are many Sensation devs switching to One X...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
A custom rom means nothing. Did you even read the article or my post?? It says you still need s off or bootloader unlock for permanent root. Modaco only found temp root.
Sent from my HTC PH39100 using xda premium
First of all, a BIG thanks to @dottat for his willingness to provide this for us!! :good: Secondly, the more of us with a rooted/unlocked M9 - the more development we'll see for the Verizon M9! And finally, here are the details to how I achieved root access, S-OFF and a custom recovery on my M9
What you need:
•Verizon M9
•Patience (don't hurt your mailman)
•Appreciation (via donation)
•Mailing address
•Paypal
Basic steps
1. PM @dottat - request an unlock for your VZW M9
2. Pack up your M9 and send it to him (he'll do the hard part)
3. Send your DONATION - I gave him $25 plus the amount it will cost him to ship it back.
*Per xda rules, there is to be NO selling on the site. So, this is why you see the term "donation" in this thread.
I am VERY satisfied with how smoothly everything went and HIGHLY RECOMMEND using this same method! Just ask everyone else who has done this as well. He sends your phone back to you the SAME DAY he gets it. You'll have your M9 rooted, with TWRP installed, unlocked bootloader - S-Off. The java card he is using to do this is NOT CHEAP, so don't hesitate to send more $ if you can spare it. I love this method because its a win/win for us all. We get S-Off and he gets most of his money back
Anyways, it could be a while til a root exploit comes to the Verizon M9. That's why I'm recommending you do this too!
This is an offer I'm seriously considering! Thank you for the recommendation.
I also can attest to @dottat being an awesome human being and sending me back my phone immediately in perfect rooted unlocked twrping condition. Donated him $20 plus shipping both ways. It was such a easy process (I have my old s4 to use while it was shipping so not a big deal) so definitely recommend doing this. Currently on viperonem9 rom with elemental x kernel rooted and xposed and colour control set up so the screen looks way better. Wouldn't have been possible without his awesomeness. Thanks again @dottat
Yup @dottat a awesome guy .did mine in 30min..donated him $60...plus the cost of shipping over night both ways..he was even going to use his own money from donation to cover a mistake FedEx did..but I refused...FYI last time I'm using FedEx..they messed up twice
Any option for those of us who do not live in the US anymore?
I got my Verizon M9 hanging around here but I'm hating the bloatware apps, verizon's bootlogo and the HTC Sense. I would be a happy HTC customer otherwise..
Any news from HTCDeveloper? I'm kinda losing my temper here..
DarkovLight said:
Any option for those of us who do not live in the US anymore?
I got my Verizon M9 hanging around here but I'm hating the bloatware apps, verizon's bootlogo and the HTC Sense. I would be a happy HTC customer otherwise..
Any news from HTCDeveloper? I'm kinda losing my temper here..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I ran across this today. Most likely won't work, but worth a shot I guess. It says for for certain m9 variants but doesn't specify Verizon. I would try for you, but I had dottat s-off my Verizon m9.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/general/root-pingpongroot-s6-root-tool-t3103016
jsaxon2 said:
I ran across this today. Most likely won't work, but worth a shot I guess. It says for for certain m9 variants but doesn't specify Verizon. I would try for you, but I had dottat s-off my Verizon m9.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/general/root-pingpongroot-s6-root-tool-t3103016
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It would work in theory but it requires unlocked bootloader, which is not an option right now thanks to the lack of HTC DEV support.
I have been waiting since day one of release to s-off/unlock or at least root my m9. I bought this phone the day it was released, not even considering the chance that there would be this much trouble to achieve. I had the HTC Rezound (verizon) and the m7(sprint) and now the m9 (verizon).
If there is a way for someone to perform this task, can we not get a guide to do such and share it with the world?!
EnduringGuerila said:
I have been waiting since day one of release to s-off/unlock or at least root my m9. I bought this phone the day it was released, not even considering the chance that there would be this much trouble to achieve. I had the HTC Rezound (verizon) and the m7(sprint) and now the m9 (verizon).
If there is a way for someone to perform this task, can we not get a guide to do such and share it with the world?!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Its not a secret, look around. You need a java card. (Which are EXPENSIVE.)
Which is exactly why there are multiple users willing to do it for you. (For a small donation)
^^^^This....do what the TS says....all will be good..and take care of the Devs and people offering this service up.
Dude DOTTAT is amazing. He will respond to any and all messages within seconds!! He let me know the phone was there 5 minutes after he recieved it and 30 minutes later hes on the way to the post office to drop my phone off! You cant beat that service!
I don't normally post much here, but I want to add that I also had dottat handle my s-off and root. The same day he received the phone he had it back in the mail on its way back to me. Very happy with the service and was glad to give him a donation of $25+.
If you are worried about losing your new phone, relax. I bought the phone and didn't get to use it (chose not to use it because it wasn't rooted yet). I eventually broke down and sent it to him (yep, I was hesitant too). But I have no fear.
If I buy an M10 next year and he can s-off the phone, I'll send it to him without any concern at all.
evobyte said:
Dude DOTTAT is amazing. He will respond to any and all messages within seconds!! He let me know the phone was there 5 minutes after he recieved it and 30 minutes later hes on the way to the post office to drop my phone off! You cant beat that service!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Joshy8 said:
I don't normally post much here, but I want to add that I also had dottat handle my s-off and root. The same day he received the phone he had it back in the mail on its way back to me. Very happy with the service and was glad to give him a donation of $25+.
If you are worried about losing your new phone, relax. I bought the phone and didn't get to use it (chose not to use it because it wasn't rooted yet). I eventually broke down and sent it to him (yep, I was hesitant too). But I have no fear.
If I buy an M10 next year and he can s-off the phone, I'll send it to him without any concern at all.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well said guys, I also was the same, had the M9 for a few weeks, maybe longer, but didn't even turn it on, was on M8, didn't want to ship device, but with Doug (dottat) there is really no worry, throw some insurance on the shipping, pack it correctly and sit back and let him do his magic. You can't beat working with Doug. Always responds to you, doesn't leave you hanging, will have the device in hand before you even realize it's landed to him, and will have the device back on its way to you very quickly. (for me, he had a tracking # for the phone back to me before I even saw that it had arrived!)
Thanks again, Doug! @dottat
andybones said:
Well said guys, I also was the same, had the M9 for a few weeks, maybe longer, but didn't even turn it on, was on M8, didn't want to ship device, but with Doug (dottat) there is really no worry, throw some insurance on the shipping, pack it correctly and sit back and let him do his magic. You can't beat working with Doug. Always responds to you, doesn't leave you hanging, will have the device in hand before you even realize it's landed to him, and will have the device back on its way to you very quickly. (for me, he had a tracking # for the phone back to me before I even saw that it had arrived!)
Thanks again, Doug! @dottat
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So it's a safe bet to say your experience shipping this time was better than last? (M7)
Good to know, thanks
Sent from my HTC6535LVW using Tapatalk
calebcabob said:
First of all, a BIG thanks to @dottat for his willingness to provide this for us!! :good: Secondly, the more of us with a rooted/unlocked M9 - the more development we'll see for the Verizon M9! And finally, here are the details to how I achieved root access, S-OFF and a custom recovery on my M9
What you need:
•Verizon M9
•Patience (don't hurt your mailman)
•Appreciation (via donation)
•Mailing address
•Paypal
Basic steps
1. PM @dottat - request an unlock for your VZW M9
2. Pack up your M9 and send it to him (he'll do the hard part)
3. Send your DONATION - I gave him $25 plus the amount it will cost him to ship it back.
*Per xda rules, there is to be NO selling on the site. So, this is why you see the term "donation" in this thread.
I am VERY satisfied with how smoothly everything went and HIGHLY RECOMMEND using this same method! Just ask everyone else who has done this as well. He sends your phone back to you the SAME DAY he gets it. You'll have your M9 rooted, with TWRP installed, unlocked bootloader - S-Off. The java card he is using to do this is NOT CHEAP, so don't hesitate to send more $ if you can spare it. I love this method because its a win/win for us all. We get S-Off and he gets most of his money back
Anyways, it could be a while til a root exploit comes to the Verizon M9. That's why I'm recommending you do this too!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
whats the point of this thread??? advertise the services he is providing? i have a java card and a clip 2 and i created a thread to help folks locally in nyc and he deleted it. but won't delete this crap that is been beneficial to him. why? wait....... he is a mod.....shhhhhhh.........................everyone quiet lol
heroes96 said:
whats the point of this thread??? advertise the services he is providing? i have a java card and a clip 2 and i created a thread to help folks locally in nyc and he deleted it. but won't delete this crap that is been beneficial to him. why? wait....... he is a mod.....shhhhhhh.........................everyone quiet lol
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Now that you have shown your true colors... I ask that you take a look at when this thread was created. Back then it wasn't an environment where hardly anyone had a java card or clip. Your thread was posted by you and was a direct advertisement that was in duplication to the currently supported java card thread.
I really don't understand what is so hard to understand about this notion. As I mentioned to you in PM, you are new here with no credibility for folks to send their $600 device to. You NEED to be vetted. Not turning your fire on me or any other member of this community.
If you choose to continue to make waves, we will shut that thread and folks can be left to find their own ways to get s-off.
I have done more favors for this community both as a recognized contributor and a moderator. I have saved countless phones and done many s-off's for nothing. I have even used my own donations to pay to ship phones for which I didn't even take anything to s-off.
Unless you can say the same, we are done here.
-dottat
heroes96 said:
whats the point of this thread??? advertise the services he is providing? i have a java card and a clip 2 and i created a thread to help folks locally in nyc and he deleted it. but won't delete this crap that is been beneficial to him. why? wait....... he is a mod.....shhhhhhh.........................everyone quiet lol
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Just to add emphasis to the above, dottat has also spent countless hours via remote desktop assisting members (for free as always) with any and all related phone issues. Most everyone here can attest to his contributions to XDA and his efforts to go above and beyond so who are you to judge or make such claim? I suggest you check your facts before you spout off senseless garbage and become another waste of time for everyone else here. So far all you've managed to contribute to anyone here is trolling.
Neo
Forum Moderator
Recognized Developer
Thread Closed. All discussion over Java/Clip cards are now centralized at the following thread: M9 Java Card/Clip thread
http://www.technobuffalo.com/2015/06/11/htc-one-m9-gets-big-camera-update/
Did anyone see this? Looks promising, i hope a dev can make a stock rooted version!
To be honest, id probably flash that update. Im in Israel and i have yet to find someone with a Java card here. Stock isnt horribleeeee but i miss Cyanogen/AOSP
Stock isn't bad at all if you disable all the crap. I'm pretty much resigned to the fact we're not getting root.
I have root. Dottat is only an inbox message and a shipping charge+donation away.
Ok, a hundred people or so will have root. Which means there's not a whole lot of development that will be happening, so I'll just live with stock.
JelloB said:
Ok, a hundred people or so will have root. Which means there's not a whole lot of development that will be happening, so I'll just live with stock.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Theres four public folks with cards. Even more who aren't. There's a lot more than 100. I know a dev who already built cm for this very phone. Its not a dead phone. Its just getting started.
JelloB said:
Ok, a hundred people or so will have root. Which means there's not a whole lot of development that will be happening, so I'll just live with stock.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
ByeBye
JelloB said:
Ok, a hundred people or so will have root. Which means there's not a whole lot of development that will be happening, so I'll just live with stock.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I disagree, it takes time to get things going. Most the Developers (that I know of anyway) that are on Verizon have gotten their phones S-OFF, and are working hard to bring us the goodies. It will only get better from here, and those who are patient enough or don't feel like shipping their devices, will have all the goodies waiting for them, as we are working hard getting the ball rolling. It will only keep getting better and better. Even if SunShine NEVER brings support to Verizon, their any many amazing people with Java Cards who are 100% trustworthy and depending how you ship your device it can be back the same week. (I personally sent my phone out with $400 insurance on a Monday, and the phone was back in my hands by Wednesday - It was on it's way back to me with a tracking # before I even had time to see if the phone had made it!) 100% worth it, and thank you again @dottat!
andybones said:
I disagree, it takes time to get things going. Most the Developers (that I know of anyway) that are on Verizon have gotten their phones S-OFF, and are working hard to bring us the goodies. It will only get better from here, and those who are patient enough or don't feel like shipping their devices, will have all the goodies waiting for them, as we are working hard getting the ball rolling. It will only keep getting better and better. Even if SunShine NEVER brings support to Verizon, their any many amazing people with Java Cards who are 100% trustworthy and depending how you ship your device it can be back the same week. (I personally sent my phone out with $400 insurance on a Monday, and the phone was back in my hands by Wednesday - It was on it's way back to me with a tracking # before I even had time to see if the phone had made it!) 100% worth it, and thank you again @dottat!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Great words Andy. It's only the beginning
dottat said:
Theres four public folks with cards. Even more who aren't. There's a lot more than 100. I know a dev who already built cm for this very phone. Its not a dead phone. Its just getting started.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i appreciate the encouragement. ive considering learning how to.compile, but i dont know programming and id assume id need to know that. if its a situation of placing files in this directory and that directory, and changing paths in this code and that....i can probably do that.
Anybody knows of camera update ..is it only firmware or software for it to work. Example is the international builds we are running latest build but not firmware. Somebody told me we need firmware to see change on camera,but a really can see a difference in camera quality without the firmware
xavierxxx2p said:
Anybody knows of camera update ..is it only firmware or software for it to work. Example is the international builds we are running latest build but not firmware. Somebody told me we need firmware to see change on camera,but a really can see a difference in camera quality without the firmware
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm on insertcoins, don't really see much difference between
Camera works great. Here is mine.
kgirlx said:
ByeBye
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
this deters membership. this deters people from tinkering. it deters the spark required to inspire learning.
andybones said:
I disagree, it takes time to get things going. Most the Developers (that I know of anyway) that are on Verizon have gotten their phones S-OFF, and are working hard to bring us the goodies. It will only get better from here, and those who are patient enough or don't feel like shipping their devices, will have all the goodies waiting for them, as we are working hard getting the ball rolling. It will only keep getting better and better. Even if SunShine NEVER brings support to Verizon, their any many amazing people with Java Cards who are 100% trustworthy and depending how you ship your device it can be back the same week. (I personally sent my phone out with $400 insurance on a Monday, and the phone was back in my hands by Wednesday - It was on it's way back to me with a tracking # before I even had time to see if the phone had made it!) 100% worth it, and thank you again @dottat!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
100%... Should have mine back from him on Wednesday... He had it taped up and on the way back by the time ups told me he had received it! Really looking forward to the phone.
Sent from my HTC6525LVW using Tapatalk
dnoyeb said:
100%... Should have mine back from him on Wednesday... He had it taped up and on the way back by the time ups told me he had received it! Really looking forward to the phone.
Sent from my HTC6525LVW using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i have no option BUT to wait. i dont know of any place in Israel who has a JAVA card. i could probably take the update and wait longer for whoever comes out with the exploit for the current sw to come out with an exploit for the update. i havent decided yet. i really hope someone finds an exploit. this update does sound very promising
andybones said:
Camera works great. Here is mine.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Meh....
Sent from my HTC6535LVW using Tapatalk
dottat said:
Meh....
Sent from my HTC6535LVW using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
new playstore update?
dottat said:
Meh....
Sent from my HTC6535LVW using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Only meh....... Considering you have the magical sauce that no one else has....
aer0zer0 said:
Only meh....... Considering you have the magical sauce that no one else has....
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The camera update is in the play store now. Doesn't fix the missing manual controls in raw mode though.
So I've done my reading and I understand sunshine will unlock my bootloader and get me everything I need but it's not really clear to me if root and recovery can be obtained without bootloader unlock and s-off. I've been with Samsung for a while so I'm use to safestrap methods. If anyone can give me clarity on this I'd greatly appreciate it.
OK so I've found my answer... but is sunshine worth it right now? I mean don't get me wrong I think what it does is well worth the money but is there any development in the works? I don't see too much action around here. I also have the Verizon galaxy S5 which still has a locked boot loader due to having a Toshiba chip (my luck) but it has safe strap and custom TW roms and it's been my daily driver for a year. I bought the M9 from a friend but I've yet to put my sim card in because once I do I've gotta give the S5 to the wife or give her the M9. I'd much rather cough up the $25 and use the M9 but I'm looking for feedback on whether or not I can do much more after that.
brd912 said:
OK so I've found my answer... but is sunshine worth it right now? I mean don't get me wrong I think what it does is well worth the money but is there any development in the works? I don't see too much action around here. I also have the Verizon galaxy S5 which still has a locked boot loader due to having a Toshiba chip (my luck) but it has safe strap and custom TW roms and it's been my daily driver for a year. I bought the M9 from a friend but I've yet to put my sim card in because once I do I've gotta give the S5 to the wife or give her the M9. I'd much rather cough up the $25 and use the M9 but I'm looking for feedback on whether or not I can do much more after that.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No, for HTC phones, Sunshine is your only choice.
After that, no limits. You can modify stock software with root, or you can download one of many custom roms. Or you can switch around and find what works best for you on a continuing basis. Actually, we are kind of spoiled with this ability to change things up, so I don't take it for granted or feel bad about paying $25 to the people who make it possible. You plain can't do it in newer Apple or Samsung phones.
But S-0ff via Sunshine is the only path to there.
michaelbsheldon said:
No, for HTC phones, Sunshine is your only choice.
After that, no limits. You can modify stock software with root, or you can download one of many custom roms. Or you can switch around and find what works best for you on a continuing basis. Actually, we are kind of spoiled with this ability to change things up, so I don't take it for granted or feel bad about paying $25 to the people who make it possible. You plain can't do it in newer Apple or Samsung phones.
But S-0ff via Sunshine is the only path to there.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah I've definitely made the decision to make the jump and use sunshine. Side by side the M9 opens apps and multitasks quicker than the S5 by 1-2 seconds. My question really though is if there's anyone working on roms. Seems like the ability to unlock without having expensive hardware is pretty new so is development just now starting or has it reached its peak?
brd912 said:
Yeah I've definitely made the decision to make the jump and use sunshine. Side by side the M9 opens apps and multitasks quicker than the S5 by 1-2 seconds. My question really though is if there's anyone working on roms. Seems like the ability to unlock without having expensive hardware is pretty new so is development just now starting or has it reached its peak?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Development is not quite at peak: This Marshmallow version is far and away better than anything on HTC's before now: very fast and smooth. With very little tweaking, it's mighty good.
But another chapter is coming: M9 will get Android Nougat, coming soon. Assuming that it runs nice on the M9, our great devs will likely make more than one nice custom Nougat that will keep the M9 current for at least a year, maybe longer.
I was able to root my Droid Razr M easily using KingoRoot. Thankfully with KingoRoot it is pretty easy to switch over to SuperSu.
Thanks for the info. It works perfectly.
Yes...if you know how to update the binaries. I spent a good week and a half researching and testing before I decided to root. I've never done anything like this before. I've never coded commands into a phone, much less knew what half of the tools were that did it. I'm really bad with anything above basic math, but my number organization skills are off the chart. Add to that a photographic memory, and this was a lot easier than I thought. I didn't run into any 'problems,' at lleast not in the terms of bricking my phone and what not. I was blown away to be honest. I'm having a great time even though I can't flash a custom ROM to mine The only problem I had was with the binaries and it was extremely difficult to find any information on how to install them. I came across a few websites here and there, but nothing worked and I was still stuck with that god awful KingRoot. Don't get me wrong...I'm thankful for it's existence, but it really is an annoyance with a horrible UI. But without an update to the binaries, you couldn't switch out KingRoot with SuperSU.
After nearly three days of searching, I finally came across this small, three paged thread, here on this very site. It was in fact the reason why I made an account here in the first place, to write a reply and thank the OP for his easy to follow instructions. Follow the procedure and you'll get those binaries into the right place and SuperSU properly installed and running in no time.
DragonFire1024 said:
I'm having a great time even though I can't flash a custom ROM to mine [/URL]
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Same here. Can't unlock the bootloader since I'm running the most recent OTA makes me mad.
Darth4212 said:
Same here. Can't unlock the bootloader since I'm running the most recent OTA makes me mad.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Apparently SunShine can unlock bootloaders on certain devices...for US$25.00. Mine is compatible. I'm debating on getting it done. Not entirely sure yet.
Don't really want to waste $25, gotta be a way to do it by yourself.
Affangta said:
Thanks for the info. It works perfectly.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No problem if your phone ever bricks just message me I have a stock ROM and all the tools to install it
Darth4212 said:
Don't really want to waste $25, gotta be a way to do it by yourself.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
As of the moment, there isn't, unless you have the codes. I've been looking and looking. So far nothing has worked.
However, there is this: I emailed Motorola on April 3rd. I was pretty straight forward and told them what I wanted. The bootloader unlocked. They replied today. They didn't say no, but they did direct me to a page, which I had already been to a few times, and the RAZR M is not listed.
Hi Jason,
Thank you for contacting Motorola.
We actually do not recommend unlocking bootloader. It is beyond our support, but what we can do is to provide you the link: https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/87215.
We want to let you know that we value your business with us. If you have other questions regarding Motorola devices and services.
Best Regards,
Motorola Customer Care
Motorola Technical Support Team
Cryz
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So I wrote them back again saying this:
My phone is not listed and I've already done the steps here: https://motorola-global-portal.cust...e/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a/action/auth and my phone doesn't qualify for an unlock. I have a Droid Razr M. It's no longer scheduled for any software updates or patches. NOT allowing my bootloader to be unlocked serves no real purpose anymore. I can totally understand the aggravation it might have caused Motorola at the time, when the exploit was popular and worked on many phones, but my phone is now ancient in terms of technology of today. 2014, 3 years, nearly 4+, is a long time ago for technology, especially phones. Thank you for ypour continued time.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Let's see what they say.
Darth4212 said:
Don't really want to waste $25, gotta be a way to do it by yourself.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
True. If it helps you decide, i used sunshine and it worked. This phone is aging though and to be honest its nearing its end of life. Running out of space due to increased app sizes and struggling to keep a smooth experience. Best android i've ever had though. Best of luck to you
DButcha said:
True. If it helps you decide, i used sunshine and it worked. This phone is aging though and to be honest its nearing its end of life. Running out of space due to increased app sizes and struggling to keep a smooth experience. Best android i've ever had though. Best of luck to you
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I agree. Best version of Android was KitKat. It had everything. I love my XT907. I don't really have any performance issues with it as I am constantly optimizing it in some form. But you are right: It's aging and if it is to be of any real use in the near future, unlocking the bootloader is what you should do.