Battery Drain and Cell Standby - Sprint Samsung Galaxy S6

I was comparing my S5 battery usage with my S6 last night, while I slept, and after 7 hours S5 = 93% and S6 = 82%. I have the update and I'm not rooted on the S6 and I'm rooted and have a ROM on my S5. I tried to have comparable things running. The biggest offender on the S6 was Cell Standby @ 7%, then Google Services @ 3%. What the heck is Cell Standby and how do I reduce the usage? What is Google Services and how do I reduce that. I had WiFi, Bluetooth and background sync all disabled. I'm ready to return my phone to Costco and go back to my S5. I cannot deal with such crappy battery life. As I write this 1 hr and 15 minutes later I've used my phone several times to look at traffic on Google Maps, and the battery is now at 74%. Please help. Thanks in advance.

I rooted my s6 and flashed ktoonsez kernel and lost 1% of battery within 8 hours of sleeping. Cell standby is when ur phone tries to find signal. If ur in bad reception area it will eat up alot of battery

jminor4326 said:
I was comparing my S5 battery usage with my S6 last night, while I slept, and after 7 hours S5 = 93% and S6 = 82%. I have the update and I'm not rooted on the S6 and I'm rooted and have a ROM on my S5. I tried to have comparable things running. The biggest offender on the S6 was Cell Standby @ 7%, then Google Services @ 3%. What the heck is Cell Standby and how do I reduce the usage? What is Google Services and how do I reduce that. I had WiFi, Bluetooth and background sync all disabled. I'm ready to return my phone to Costco and go back to my S5. I cannot deal with such crappy battery life. As I write this 1 hr and 15 minutes later I've used my phone several times to look at traffic on Google Maps, and the battery is now at 74%. Please help. Thanks in advance.
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I work for Sprint (not an official spokesperson or anything, so don't think my word is an official statement representing them), and I had a similar issue with the Nexus. I saw it again on the S6, so I tried the same thing I did on the Nexus 6, and it got way better:
Settings->Mobile Networks->switch to LTE/CDMA
Also be aware that if your bedroom is in an area of the house that doesn't get good reception, it's going to drain the battery trying to find it, like the other user mentioned above. Change it and see if it helps.

Xylomaphoner said:
I work for Sprint (not an official spokesperson or anything, so don't think my word is an official statement representing them), and I had a similar issue with the Nexus. I saw it again on the S6, so I tried the same thing I did on the Nexus 6, and it got way better:
Settings->Mobile Networks->switch to LTE/CDMA
Also be aware that if your bedroom is in an area of the house that doesn't get good reception, it's going to drain the battery trying to find it, like the other user mentioned above. Change it and see if it helps.
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Actually I have done the exact opposite and changed it to CDMA only mode and ever since y battery has been amaizng.

If you switched to cdma only. Do you still get 3g/lte?

JoeFCaputo113 said:
Actually I have done the exact opposite and changed it to CDMA only mode and ever since y battery has been amaizng.
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That's not surprising if you're in an area that hasn't completed the spark/LTE upgrades, but not that would won't be able to get full speeds in that mode.

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That's not surprising if you're in an area that hasn't completed the spark/LTE upgrades, but not that would won't be able to get full speeds in that mode.
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Making these changes has made a big difference. Thank you for the explanation and suggestion. I leave my phone in the living ara at night and I do have reasonable cell service. If I make the setting for CDMA only, not LTE/CDMA under Settings->Mobile Networks, will LTE still work automatically.

I would assume you're going to lose LTE by going to just CDMA....and Sprint's 3g is poor so losing even average LTE is not desirable for me.

crazymook said:
I would assume you're going to lose LTE by going to just CDMA.
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Duh haha.

JoeFCaputo113 said:
Duh haha.
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More replying to everyone else asking.
Sprint's 3g is garbage...I'll take any battery hit not to have to sit on 3g, ever, haha.

crazymook said:
More replying to everyone else asking.
Sprint's 3g is garbage...I'll take any battery hit not to have to sit on 3g, ever, haha.
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Sprint in general is pretty trash lol... been wit em since they were Nextel (roughly 15+yrs) -_-

JoeFCaputo113 said:
Sprint in general is pretty trash lol... been wit em since they were Nextel (roughly 15+yrs) -_-
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Same. I dont know why I stick with them, other than the fact I'm on employee pricing and I cant beat my plan.

crazymook said:
Same. I dont know why I stick with them, other than the fact I'm on employee pricing and I cant beat my plan.
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Unlimited everything is why I stick wit em haha. Plus them & T-Mo are the only carriers with unlimited plans, wifi calling AND unlocked bootloaders!

All the promises of a better network is such a crock tho.

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All the promises of a better network is such a crock tho.
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CDMA only means you're not going to get LTE.
Regarding Sprint's service, it got very rocky when they started upgrading the network, but has gotten so much better, at least in my area. I get LTE pretty much everywhere I go now. I lose it at the gym sometimes, but that's about it.

Its such crap that Google removed the ability to toggle LTE on or off via a widget or toggle switch (you cant even toggle data on or off, you need to manually go to the networks page).

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Its such crap that Google removed the ability to toggle LTE on or off via a widget or toggle switch (you cant even toggle data on or off, you need to manually go to the networks page).
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Verizon and AT&T can on their S6's -_-

How lovely for them

It helped
Xylomaphoner said:
I work for Sprint (not an official spokesperson or anything, so don't think my word is an official statement representing them), and I had a similar issue with the Nexus. I saw it again on the S6, so I tried the same thing I did on the Nexus 6, and it got way better:
Settings->Mobile Networks->switch to LTE/CDMA
Also be aware that if your bedroom is in an area of the house that doesn't get good reception, it's going to drain the battery trying to find it, like the other user mentioned above. Change it and see if it helps.
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It helped, Thank you. Mine had gone to "automatic" so I changed to the LTE/CDMA and battery is better. Thanks again.

If LTE/CDMA gets turned on will the phone still fall back to 3G?

Related

Nexus CDMA/LTE question

I finally got all my lines ported over to Verizon and am experiencing 5x faster data speeds coming from Sprint.
Of course I am new to ICS and had a quick question. When you into settings, Wireless & Networks, Mobile network and then Network Mode, does having LTE/CDMA on make it so the LTE radio is constantly searching for LTE towers, consequently draining the battery more than having just CDMA on? Appreciate anyones help!
Yes, if you're area doesn't support it, then is is not worth it and you're wasting battery
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When you have that option on yes both radios are on and LTE is searching for a signal. When you turn it off it powers off the LTE radio and runs on CDMA only saving battery
infinitemethod said:
I finally got all my lines ported over to Verizon and am experiencing 5x faster data speeds coming from Sprint.
Of course I am new to ICS and had a quick question. When you into settings, Wireless & Networks, Mobile network and then Network Mode, does having LTE/CDMA on make it so the LTE radio is constantly searching for LTE towers, consequently draining the battery more than having just CDMA on? Appreciate anyones help!
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I haven't even used 4g after coming from Sprint last week. 1.7mbs on 3g is good enough for me. .
I would be more interested to know if 4g sleeps while the phone is off.
[email protected] said:
I haven't even used 4g after coming from Sprint last week. 1.7mbs on 3g is good enough for me. .
I would be more interested to know if 4g sleeps while the phone is off.
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It does not. It will stay connected at all times unless your phone cannot get a 4G signal, pretty obvious though.
I just switched too ...this me at work
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I figured that was the case but just wanted to confirm with you guys. Have any of you tried with and without both radios on? Battery drain difference?
If both radios are on and you HAVE 4G coverage the battery drain will be noticeable compared to 3G but nothing crazy. If you have both radios on and no 4G coverage your phones battery will drain much faster
Also, some custom roms like AOKP has an option when your screen is off it'll shut the 4G radio (or 4G/3G) data off and when you turn your screen on it'll reconnect
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If both radios are on and you HAVE 4G coverage the battery drain will be noticeable compared to 3G but nothing crazy. If you have both radios on and no 4G coverage your phones battery will drain much faster
Also, some custom roms like AOKP has an option when your screen is off it'll shut the 4G radio (or 4G/3G) data off and when you turn your screen on it'll reconnect
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That was one good thing with the GS2 on Sprint, when you weren't using your data the device would put 4G to sleep until it was called on again.
The problem with actually shutting off 4G data when you turn the screen off, what if the device is in the middle of downloading something? Will it just cut it off or finish the active connection and then shut down once complete?
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If both radios are on and you HAVE 4G coverage the battery drain will be noticeable compared to 3G but nothing crazy. If you have both radios on and no 4G coverage your phones battery will drain much faster
Also, some custom roms like AOKP has an option when your screen is off it'll shut the 4G radio (or 4G/3G) data off and when you turn your screen on it'll reconnect
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I leave LTE enabled all the time, and most of the time I'm in a non-4G area. The battery drain between having 4G and not having 4G is negligible, and I never switch it. The only thing I do is put the phone in airplane mode at night.
holy **** balls! I have 4G almost anywhere i go! The same place that I got .39 down with Sprint's 3G, I got 26mb down on 4G through Verizon. Didnt even know that was possible. At my home, I get 17 down! Love this phone!
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holy **** balls! I have 4G almost anywhere i go! The same place that I got .39 down with Sprint's 3G, I got 26mb down on 4G through Verizon. Didnt even know that was possible. At my home, I get 17 down! Love this phone!
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Hahaha I felt the same way. I came from sprint to Verizon 2 weeks again and I love it. 4g everywhere I go. I haven't even seen the 3g icon on my phone. Lol.
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Question for you guys that jumped ship from Sprint. If you left due to the contract change, did you have the etf fees show up on your final bill even though you called and they confirmed they waived them? They told me I would have to call back when they showed up on my bill to have them credited yet I still do not see the fees.
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Question for you guys that jumped ship from Sprint. If you left due to the contract change, did you have the etf fees show up on your final bill even though you called and they confirmed they waived them? They told me I would have to call back when they showed up on my bill to have them credited yet I still do not see the fees.
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No, I did not have them show up on my account. I did call the day after I ported to make sure they were waiving the ETF. My bill date has ended and I still have a $0 balance.
I think most of the more common custom ROMs (Gummy and AOKP, I know for example) have optional pull-down toggles. 3G is plenty fast for 99% of my phone's use, but it's nice being able to toggle LTE on and off with a single button when I do want it.
For what it's worth, you will notice a greater drain using LTE, but like I've said before the screen is really what kills the battery on this phone.
I had a large ETF on my final Sprint bill. Called and they are supposed to send refund check. Probably hoping people just pay it to leave. Data speed was so slow on Sprint. Not sure why anyone would stay.
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Question for you guys that jumped ship from Sprint. If you left due to the contract change, did you have the etf fees show up on your final bill even though you called and they confirmed they waived them? They told me I would have to call back when they showed up on my bill to have them credited yet I still do not see the fees.
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I just did the porting yesterday so we'll see. They did say that they'd show up and I'd have to call to get them removed. It bothers me that I paid them what I did for ****ty service. And it only makes them look even dumber after seeing what Verizon's network does.
They also shouldn't be allowed to get away with having such ****ty service, or if they do, they hvae to charge less. Premium data my ass!
I switched over on the 16th. They said I would have to call back in and they would credit my account and end up with a $0 balance.
I leave my wifi on so I can pick up wifi at my work or home to save on data. What is happening with the LTE/cdma radios when wifi is on?

Radio problems? Try this

I know there is a lot of talk about the radio issues the Nexus has been experiencing. My experience is a lot like many others. I would go do use my phone (data or text) which showed I had two or three bars of service. As soon as I tried to use maps or send a text I would loose all service and have to wait about two minutes before everything connected again and only then would I be able to data or voice. I had people telling me that they would try to call and get a fast busy signal.
For some reason my Nexus was dropping its signal entirely but I would still show bars, only after trying to use a signal would the phone realize that it was disconnected and reconnect to the network. Very very very frustrating.
For ****s and giggles I disabled LTE and switched to CDMA only. For two straight days I didn't have a single problem (except no 4g of course). Soon as I turn LTE back on I start dropping signal again. I think the phone has a problem with either keeping LTE active while sleeping or it can't gracefully do handoffs with LTE and CDMA.
On the other hand, If I run pandora and have LTE active I won't loose connection. I've tried this in a two hour car ride all around So Cal which supports the phone sleeping theory.
Anyway, if you're having the same issues try running CDMA only for a couple days and see if that helps.
I'm in. Switching now
I can't say anything to confirm or reject your findings because I have a GSM Galaxy Nexus. Is there no way to switch to CDMA when the screen is off/sleep mode and when the screen is active switch LTE on. That way background data and voice still work albeit at a slower connection but you never lose connectivity.
Just a theory, I assume that LTE switching off would be to save on battery life. I personally use Tasker to switch data off when screen is off and when it's on I set it to turn the data on too. I have seen a massive increase on battery when phone is idle and my standby is just short of around 1 week (tested when I had forgotten my charger and USB cable and deliberately didn't turn screen on to conserve battery life, had 8-9 phone calls during that period no issues)
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I switched LTE off purely to stop my data from dropping.
First of all, thank you OP for posting this info
And this is exactly what VZW customer service people want us to do as one of the "solutions" to LTE drop. And I've been using this phone with 4G off due to the drop this entire time, but this is more like a remedy..
On the advertisements for Verizon GNex : "The fastest, most reliable network and the latest 4G LTE Galaxy Nexus Device comes to life!"
On the phone with VZW customer service after you purchase this phone eager to use 4G : The representative tells you... "Why don't you turn the LTE off, and just use it as CDMA?"
And we are thinking 1) where is the supposed update that was to come since 3 months ago?
2) We feel like we bought a Ferrari and the maker is telling us we shouldn't drive faster than 80mph.......If we go pass that speed, our engine is going to be shut off.
LOL...sad..
This works. My signal has been pretty stable since turning off LTE ... Battery life has increased as well ...
Now I'll try rooting my phone and installing a 4.0.4 radio and see how it goes...
This issue sounds like it may be addressed in the update rumored for next month. (Problems with data when the device sleeps.) Here's a quote from Droid Life.
Our friend, the Mobile Panda aka @black_man_x tossed out a quick, but important Tweet this afternoon that has to do with your Galaxy Nexus. As someone that has a well known insider track record when it comes to Verizon and LTE devices, we usually listen when he has something to spit out. Android “4.0.5″ and “April” is what he dropped today. According to Sir Panda, 4.0.5 is in testing and fixes “audio reboot issue as well as data falling asleep.” That should make you smile, right? April is a bit late seeing as the device was released in December, but what can you do?
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This issue sounds like it may be addressed in the update rumored for next month. (Problems with data when the device sleeps.) Here's a quote from Droid Life.
Our friend, the Mobile Panda aka @black_man_x tossed out a quick, but important Tweet this afternoon that has to do with your Galaxy Nexus. As someone that has a well known insider track record when it comes to Verizon and LTE devices, we usually listen when he has something to spit out. Android “4.0.5″ and “April” is what he dropped today. According to Sir Panda, 4.0.5 is in testing and fixes “audio reboot issue as well as data falling asleep.” That should make you smile, right? April is a bit late seeing as the device was released in December, but what can you do?
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I remember going through the same thing when I got the Thunderbolt. There were all kinds of issues but eventually they all got worked out
bazzawhite said:
I can't say anything to confirm or reject your findings because I have a GSM Galaxy Nexus. Is there no way to switch to CDMA when the screen is off/sleep mode and when the screen is active switch LTE on. That way background data and voice still work albeit at a slower connection but you never lose connectivity.
Just a theory, I assume that LTE switching off would be to save on battery life. I personally use Tasker to switch data off when screen is off and when it's on I set it to turn the data on too. I have seen a massive increase on battery when phone is idle and my standby is just short of around 1 week (tested when I had forgotten my charger and USB cable and deliberately didn't turn screen on to conserve battery life, had 8-9 phone calls during that period no issues)
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This particular issue isn't about saving battery life. It's about the cellular connection dropping out completely. Many users (myself included) have this happen several times a day. I can be in an area with a strong, full signal, and then all of a sudden my phone is searching for service. This happens far too often, and it happens both when I'm using the phone and when it's idle. Having LTE switch off when the phone is asleep isn't particularly useful for this issue because the connection drops when I'm trying to use the phone. I don't notice the connection dropping when the phone is idle unless I miss a call and get a voicemail later.
For me, I still randomly lose connectivity in CDMA only mode, although not nearly as frequently as when I have LTE on.
Prevent maps app from running all the time if you want to save battery. I use Gemini app manager from the market. I block maps from starting at boot and have seen significant battery life increases. App functions normally when ran too.

[Q] Rogers Lumia 900 no Update?

Hi,
Am I the only one waiting on the update for the Lumia 900 with Rogers? AT&T go their update 3 days earlier, and we get nothing? Here are some of the issues I am having. I moved from a iPhone 4s to this Lumia
Battery life: Abysmal, I get about 5-6 hrs with 2 exchange, twitter+FB, Location off
Camera is ****: Like I mean really bad? I am not sure if it a hardware or software.
WiFi: Disconnects when the screen turns off. Is this normal?
Data: I know of the issue and waiting for the update
MMS: Not being able to add MMS Settings in APN. Annoying enough to mention
I'm also waiting for the update.
I'm also waiting for the update.
I'm not having your power problems tho, i have 5 email accounts, fb, twitter, linkedin, locations on, gps on when driving, on calls, lte enabled surfing with stocks updated.. i last whole day (9 - midnight) without charging, but very low by end of day.
Camera isn't the best i agree
Im not turning on wifi / turning off the phone because of the lte connectivity issue.
Jeeverz said:
Hi,
Am I the only one waiting on the update for the Lumia 900 with Rogers? AT&T go their update 3 days earlier, and we get nothing? Here are some of the issues I am having. I moved from a iPhone 4s to this Lumia
Battery life: Abysmal, I get about 5-6 hrs with 2 exchange, twitter+FB, Location off
Camera is ****: Like I mean really bad? I am not sure if it a hardware or software.
WiFi: Disconnects when the screen turns off. Is this normal?
Data: I know of the issue and waiting for the update
MMS: Not being able to add MMS Settings in APN. Annoying enough to mention
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i just went to the rogers plus , return the problem phone. No update until now, and i lose my patient.
Jeeverz said:
Hi,
Am I the only one waiting on the update for the Lumia 900 with Rogers? AT&T go their update 3 days earlier, and we get nothing? Here are some of the issues I am having. I moved from a iPhone 4s to this Lumia
Battery life: Abysmal, I get about 5-6 hrs with 2 exchange, twitter+FB, Location off
Camera is ****: Like I mean really bad? I am not sure if it a hardware or software.
WiFi: Disconnects when the screen turns off. Is this normal?
Data: I know of the issue and waiting for the update
MMS: Not being able to add MMS Settings in APN. Annoying enough to mention
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I spoke with people I know that work for Rogers in Toronto and Nokia apparently did the AT&T update first and are currently working on a separate one for Rogers.
I personally don't have any of the issues you described but will take the update nevertheless. I do have an issue of not being able to use a wifi hotspot since I am not on an LTE plan. This is not a Rogers requirement for internet sharing nor does Rogers have LTE where I live so I hope they fix that.
WiFi: Disconnects when the screen turns off. Is this normal?
Yes, Unless it is actively doing something like downloading a large file or streaming music, WiFi will go to sleep about 30 seconds after turning off your screen. With Data turned off, WiFi will turn on approximately every two hours and will check for anything needing to be pushed to the phone. The WiFi turning off is an energy saving feature.
According to Nokia, the update for Rogers will come around the 20th of April.
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According to Nokia, the update for Rogers will come around the 20th of April.
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I hope so, the screen lag is annoying the crap out of me.
Have you guys tried a Hard Reset? When I first got my Lumia, it lagged really bad, and my battery was decent at best. I did a hard reset on my second day, and I didn't have ANY issues after that. I went ahead and applied the ATT update, but for me, it was unnecessary. My battery easily lasts 1 FULL day now with moderate to heavy usage. 7am - 11pm with 10-20% left. WiFi/Bluetooth on constant, 3 background tasks constant, 1 push email account. Not many calls each day, maybe 2-5 short ones.
PS: Unless it's dark, my camera takes REALLY nice pictures/videos. In the dark, it's pretty grainy.
Here is the Canadian update page .. beware of the date April 20th .. 5hrs ago the same page was showing 24th .. 7hours ago it was showing 20th
http://www.nokia.com/ca-en/lumia900...roducts_phone_lumia900_overview-ca-en-1255622
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WiFi: Disconnects when the screen turns off. Is this normal?
Yes, Unless it is actively doing something like downloading a large file or streaming music, WiFi will go to sleep about 30 seconds after turning off your screen. With Data turned off, WiFi will turn on approximately every two hours and will check for anything needing to be pushed to the phone. The WiFi turning off is an energy saving feature.
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yup .. but make sure to check that once the phone is up wifi should connect within 3sec .. there was a known bug on some handsets .
Thanks or the replies. Gonna do a wipe tomorrow
Also waiting for the update on Rogers.
I don't have any issues actually, the data connection and wifi is working.
However, my 4G signal is incredibly slow. I am in Québec City, my 4G signal show 5 bars but running a bandwith speed test application give me barely 1.5mbps down.
Tried some speed test websites also and still the same result.
Not sure but hoping the update will fix that, if it is not the fault of Rogers Network.
SlashMind said:
Also waiting for the update on Rogers.
I don't have any issues actually, the data connection and wifi is working.
However, my 4G signal is incredibly slow. I am in Québec City, my 4G signal show 5 bars but running a bandwith speed test application give me barely 1.5mbps down.
Tried some speed test websites also and still the same result.
Not sure but hoping the update will fix that, if it is not the fault of Rogers Network.
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When you say 4G, do you mean the phone is reporting 4G on the notification bar at the top? If so, then it is connected at HSPA+ and not really "4G"... that is just how the Lumia reports HSPA+ (HSPA is shown as 3G).
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When you say 4G, do you mean the phone is reporting 4G on the notification bar at the top? If so, then it is connected at HSPA+ and not really "4G"... that is just how the Lumia reports HSPA+ (HSPA is shown as 3G).
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If 1.5/mbps make sense for HSPA+ 5bars, then thats probably it.
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If 1.5/mbps make sense for HSPA+ 5bars, then thats probably it.
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Well, that's about what I get in downtown Toronto on HSPA+ (don't have an LTE plan) so I think it is normal for Rogers.
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Well, that's about what I get in downtown Toronto on HSPA+ (don't have an LTE plan) so I think it is normal for Rogers.
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Okay then, since you are in Toronto. You probably have a better Network than in Québec anyway.
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When you say 4G, do you mean the phone is reporting 4G on the notification bar at the top? If so, then it is connected at HSPA+ and not really "4G"... that is just how the Lumia reports HSPA+ (HSPA is shown as 3G).
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+1 to this. I first thought 4G meant LTE, but no. the Lumia reports LTE as LTE and 4G as HSPA+
Yeah, I was like oh snap at 1st when I saw the 4G, then I realized that I didn't even have a LTE sim.. so I assuming it was Nokia just renaming HSPA+ to 4G
On another note, I wiped my phone and such.. I have yet to see a difference, but I will give it the day.
I also hope Rogers actually does gives me the $100 bill credit even though they said no for outright purchases. I quoted Nokia to @rogershelps on twitter saying that Nokia will provide the credit even though I purchased it outright.
I sold my iPhone 4S so there is no going back now!
Not only did they label HSPA+ as 4G, but they ALSO labeled UMTS as 4G. That's why it sometimes shows 4G when you can barely download a web page.
I seem to have the other side of the problem. Even tho my Focus S shows 4G all the time here in Victoria, the L900 will only show 3G.
Tests of throughput show approx. the same numbers on both phones, so I'm thinking there's something wrong with the 'interpretation' and display of what network you're on.
@NokiaCanada reported .. Update moved to tuesday .. dammit ..
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ya .. i have LTE and i rarely see 4G .. I am on LTE Plan so i mostly see LTE and 3G on non LTE areas ..

My take on Galaxy Nexus problems (VZW)

I've had this phone now for less than a month. I know it's not a long time, but I think I've got a pretty good idea of how this phone performs. I have not rooted this phone, I am on 4.02 and PRL 15119.
1. The signal problem:
Coming from a Droid2, the first thing I noticed was one or no bars where I used to have full! I was losing data all the time, until I switched to CDMA only. My phone kept switching to LTE and back again, I spent more time in hand offs than connected!
I had the opportunity to have my Nexus, a TBolt, and a Maxx all in my basement together and did a few tests. All three phones had trouble holding LTE here when I was able to run a speed test, they all performed similarly, between 1 and 2 Mbps. When all three switched to CDMA, they displayed one more bar on and off than my Nexus, but showed similar pings and speeds.
I spend a lot of time in my basement and have never had troubles losing data (CDMA only) even though it displays 0-1 bars all the time.
Now, I do occasionally have problems with data, but it's nothing new to me. My Droid2 would show full signal and just not load a page or drop to 1x in locations known to be strong service.
I have not had this problem with the WiFi hand off back to cellular data. This phone switches faster than my Droid2 ever did. Like, by a lot. I work in no service building. Every morning I turn my WiFi on and just turn it off when I get in my car to go home. Usually I have cellular service before I can even turn off the WiFi.
I read a lot of reports where someones Nexus would be outperformed in a 4G speed test by another Verizon 4G device. Not the case here. My tests were constantly the same when comparing between the Nexus, TBolt, and Maxx.
I stopped in the Verizon store and two of the sales dudes had 4G phones, a Razr and another Galaxy Nexus. The Nexus guy was rooted on 4.04 and couldn't break 10Mbps while Razer guy and myself were fighting for 40Mbps.. Maybe there are some lemons out there
All in all, I may have gotten a good device (made in China, go figure), but I do not believe there is a real problem here. If this is your first android on Verizon, I can see where you'd think there are problems. Whenever I pick up my phone, I just ignore the bars and use it. It always works. Even in 3G, this phone loads pages WAY faster than my Droid2.
2. Battery life: I am not a real heavy user. There are times when I'll spend 20 minutes in the bathroom playing angry birds or reading threads, but that's about it. I got the Verizon extended battery before leaving the store with my new phone. This battery has 200mah more juice than the extended battery in my old Droid2.
I think this phone get's great stand by time, I got it to go 3 days off charger with a few calls and texts every day and a little bit of angry birds
On a whole, I'd have to say it get's as good or better life than my last phone.
3. Random reboots: I was constantly pulling my phone out of my pocket to find that it was off. I had gotten quite concerned after reading all the posts about crash reboots. It wasn't until I set the phone down while booting it up that I saw the screen shut off. I knew something wasn't right here and reproduced the shut down by smacking the phone in my palm while it was booting it up.
After looking closely, I noticed the battery would move up and down in its compartment. I solved this by taking some folded paper and taping it to the bottom edge of the battery. Pushing the battery up into the contacts on the phone. I also added some tape/paper to the top of the battery so the cover is pushing it down into the compartment.
Obviously I can't speak for everyone, but I haven't had a single crash/reboot. Just this battery connection problem.
4. Slow screen rotation: I have noticed this, it is VERY annoying when you first get the phone. Habit is to flip it landscape BEFORE launching the app you want to use. This is why you think it's so slow, because the home screen will not flip, it just refuses to. In any app, it flips just like you're used to. A non problem that I'm sure will get fixed.
5. Screen banding: I tried looking at the blank grey screen on any brightness, I could not get the bands I kept reading about. I guess I got lucky!
6. Overheating: I read this phone will try to use 2.4 and 5GHz spectrum's while on WiFi. The first thing I did was set it to 2.4 only and have not had any issues. I use WiFi 8 hours a day every day with out the phone getting hot. I also use the hot spot almost every night, as I don't have a land line internet at home. Never an issue, once again, to the touch this phone was not as hot as my Droid2.
I really like ICS and this phone seems like a keeper. I hope this inspires someone to go out and buy the Nexus!!
Over the weekend I went to the Verizon store to compare the vz nexus signal. Turns out every device with lte read -60 and then nexus -80. But there was one lg phone that displayed both signals at the same time, 1x and lte read -60 and -80. So I wonder does Verizon lte phones actually never show lte signal and always show cdma even when connected to lte?
Just earlier today I compared my Galaxy Nexus at -110 to my dad's Rezound at -80. Side by side at the exact same time. I'm sorry I didn't take a picture.
I'm unrooted stock 4.0.2 right now.
Silly question but did the salesman with the Nexus have LTE on?
How in the world could you go 3 days on a 2100mah? The most i can get is maybe a day or day and a half. Usually its under a day as i use my phone alot.
Dan76 said:
Just earlier today I compared my Galaxy Nexus at -110 to my dad's Rezound at -80. Side by side at the exact same time. I'm sorry I didn't take a picture.
I'm unrooted stock 4.0.2 right now.
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Lost the link but basically non ics phones show 3g signal instead of 4g or something like that. Its a different signal type that's why the gnex always shows less because its showing its actual signal
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i honestly think its a hardware issue, but i have read all the threads and there is nothing concrete... my phone works perfect on 3g but i switch it to 4g and it just looses signal i could have 3 bars and then all of sudden it just looses all signal, it does not switch to 3g..im in a good 4g coverage area as well. im really angry and i dont want any other phone but the one i have . I hate blur so forget motorola
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i honestly think its a hardware issue, but i have read all the threads and there is nothing concrete... my phone works perfect on 3g but i switch it to 4g and it just looses signal i could have 3 bars and then all of sudden it just looses all signal, it does not switch to 3g..im in a good 4g coverage area as well. im really angry and i dont want any other phone but the one i have . I hate blur so forget motorola
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That shouldn't happen doesn't to me at all. Call Verizon. Get a new phone lol
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RogerPodacter said:
Over the weekend I went to the Verizon store to compare the vz nexus signal. Turns out every device with lte read -60 and then nexus -80. But there was one lg phone that displayed both signals at the same time, 1x and lte read -60 and -80. So I wonder does Verizon lte phones actually never show lte signal and always show cdma even when connected to lte?
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This is generally the case.
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RogerPodacter said:
Over the weekend I went to the Verizon store to compare the vz nexus signal. Turns out every device with lte read -60 and then nexus -80. But there was one lg phone that displayed both signals at the same time, 1x and lte read -60 and -80. So I wonder does Verizon lte phones actually never show lte signal and always show cdma even when connected to lte?
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If they are not ICS devices, they do not show the LTE signal.
You have problems?
Cool story bro. This isn't a support site.
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fix-this! said:
How in the world could you go 3 days on a 2100mah? The most i can get is maybe a day or day and a half. Usually its under a day as i use my phone alot.
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This was achieved over a weekend in a strong service area on cdma only. I was at a solid 3/⁴ bars the whole time. I was at a buddys house for a lan, so i was doing my surfing on the computer. I was doing most of my texting in google voice on my pc, so the only use the phone saw was calls and bathroom browsing lol.
Yes, the nexus measures signal differently and this is why it cant hold 4g, it thinks the signal is too weak and lets go before it should. If you had a vzw droid before and know where the strong 3g is, set it to cdma only and see how it performs compared to the old phone. If your getting data drops and dropped calls where you didnt before, then exchange your phone.
Ive read there is a way to force lte only, this would be the best test. But i cant remember how to do it.
Want to add, the ics keyboard is the best one ive ever used. Also, speaker volume on this phone is plenty loud. I have had problems with call quality when i have no bars. Just does not sound good and hard to unserstand people. When i have a bar or more, sounds great. Like theyre in the room.
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Silly question but did the salesman with the Nexus have LTE on?
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Definitely lte. I am not sure what vzws theoretical max speed is on 3g, but in our area, max is about 1.7Mbps. I know theoretical is no where near 10Mbps.
teeBOMB said:
Definitely lte. I am not sure what vzws theoretical max speed is on 3g, but in our area, max is about 1.7Mbps. I know theoretical is no where near 10Mbps.
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Could the differences have been due to your radios? I'm on 4.0.4 with the new radios and I don't break 10Mpbs.
The speed is fast enough for me and I don't remember exactly the speeds I had on the earlier radios. I vaguely remember breaking 10Mpbs at times. I might reflash the older radios and do speed tests.
I'm happy to report I have zero problems with my VZW GNex since day 1
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Could the differences have been due to your radios? I'm on 4.0.4 with the new radios and I don't break 10Mpbs.
The speed is fast enough for me and I don't remember exactly the speeds I had on the earlier radios. I vaguely remember breaking 10Mpbs at times. I might reflash the older radios and do speed tests.
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Now i didnt see these guys screens, i dont know what they were using for testing or what server they were connecting to. He told me hes never been able to break 10 megs. For all i know he rooted and flashed on day one. I cant imagine the members of xda would overlook something so obvious, but who knows. Give it a try eh? For reference all my mentions have been using the official speedtest.net app and chicago servers. Im tempted to root, but im waiting for 4.05 ota and have no idea how to do it. Ill get there eventually
I've found that LTE can vary wildly in speeds. You really need multiple tests with multiple phones at the same location/time.
That said, I saw a huge difference between FC05 and FA02. I found that the best combination for my phone was FC04 on the CDMA radio and FA02 on the LTE radio. It's a good 2mbits faster and much more stable. Signal in my house is borderline, so you really see the difference.
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I've found that LTE can vary wildly in speeds. You really need multiple tests with multiple phones at the same location/time.
That said, I saw a huge difference between FC05 and FA02. I found that the best combination for my phone was FC04 on the CDMA radio and FA02 on the LTE radio. It's a good 2mbits faster and much more stable. Signal in my house is borderline, so you really see the difference.
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Thanks for the suggestion.
I flash the FC04/FA02 combo and in the spot near my house where I am disappointed, 4.5Mpbs down / 2.5 up, I got pretty much the same results. One difference I did notice is that the hybrid combo is slower to switch from 3G than FC05/FC05. I toggled LTE to force 4G connect.
I flashed back. Eager to see what 4.05 brings and also if the latest official IMM76K brings new radios.
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You have problems?
Cool story bro. This isn't a support site.
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Um, it kind of is since most of us come here for help.
Also, if your read the OP he was not complaining about issues as much as addressing them.

Awful LTE signal after update

I have an unlocked 10 running on T-Mobile US. I previously had no problems at home with a 4G LTE connection. But after updating to 1.53.617.5 this week, my LTE signal at home has completely disappeared on me. What's worse, the phone shows full bars, and won't drop to a slower connection. I have to manually switch to 4G/WCDMA (Auto) and use the slower 4G connection, which I presume is HSDPA.
Is anyone else experiencing the same problem? I even did a factory reset, but it didn't help whatsoever.
Between this and the weak Wi-Fi, I'm starting to have second thoughts about this phone.
djbutter said:
I have an unlocked 10 running on T-Mobile US. I previously had no problems at home with a 4G LTE connection. But after updating to 1.53.617.5 this week, my LTE signal at home has completely disappeared on me. What's worse, the phone shows full bars, and won't drop to a slower connection. I have to manually switch to 4G/WCDMA (Auto) and use the slower 4G connection, which I presume is HSDPA.
Is anyone else experiencing the same problem? I even did a factory reset, but it didn't help whatsoever.
Between this and the weak Wi-Fi, I'm starting to have second thoughts about this phone.
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My LTE and wifi signal are slightly weaker on the 10 than what I'm used to seeing. Also on Tmo US. My LTE drops when I'm not upstairs lol. I took the ota when I first started up the phone so I can't speak for the other version.
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My LTE and wifi signal are slightly weaker on the 10 than what I'm used to seeing. Also on Tmo US. My LTE drops when I'm not upstairs lol. I took the ota when I first started up the phone so I can't speak for the other version.
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Does it stay on LTE even though you have no reception? Mine does, and it also shows full bars.
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Does it stay on LTE even though you have no reception? Mine does, and it also shows full bars.
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Yeah mine doesn't do that. Switches to 4g
Have you tried doing a factory reset?
Maybe try wiping the cache partition? Check the "weak Wi-Fi signal" thread for directions on how to perform it. Just a suggestion.
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Maybe try wiping the cache partition? Check the "weak Wi-Fi signal" thread for directions on how to perform it. Just a suggestion.
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I just tried wiping the cache partition. No dice.
I installed the OpenSignal app to see what's going on. It seems that the phone is locking onto a cell tower that's many miles away (in the middle of a river!), instead of many LTE cell towers that are only a block away from me. This makes no sense. It also indicates full reception.
The latest update definitely messed something up. Perhaps it's related to the "Wi-Fi stability enhancements".
unlocked htc 10 on tmobile. getting only 0-1 bars in my house . texts dont send and occasional dropped calls at various times. what could be the problem?
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unlocked htc 10 on tmobile. getting only 0-1 bars in my house . texts dont send and occasional dropped calls at various times. what could be the problem?
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I have this problem as well, spoke to T-Mobile and of course they tried to blame it on the phone saying that they cannot guarantee that an unlocked phone will work with their network. I proceeded to tell them that the phone was listed as fully compatible with T-Mobile's LTE network they had no answer. I know it's not a solution at all but I'm on T-Mobile's prepaid service so at the beginning of next month just before I need to make a payment I'm switching to AT&T to see if that is any better
I'm somewhat disappointed and I really don't know if I should return the phone or not
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I have this problem as well, spoke to T-Mobile and of course they tried to blame it on the phone saying that they cannot guarantee that an unlocked phone will work with their network. I proceeded to tell them that the phone was listed as fully compatible with T-Mobile's LTE network they had no answer. I know it's not a solution at all but I'm on T-Mobile's prepaid service so at the beginning of next month just before I need to make a payment I'm switching to AT&T to see if that is any better
I'm somewhat disappointed and I really don't know if I should return the phone or not
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im in chicago suburbs, you? man also considering the same thing =(
Mark112887 said:
I have this problem as well, spoke to T-Mobile and of course they tried to blame it on the phone saying that they cannot guarantee that an unlocked phone will work with their network. I proceeded to tell them that the phone was listed as fully compatible with T-Mobile's LTE network they had no answer. I know it's not a solution at all but I'm on T-Mobile's prepaid service so at the beginning of next month just before I need to make a payment I'm switching to AT&T to see if that is any better
I'm somewhat disappointed and I really don't know if I should return the phone or not
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While I do think the 10 doesn't get a signal as strongly as other phones do (my S6 was great), I think the latest firmware (1.53) has impacted reception for the worse.
Wait till HTC release T-Mobile RUU , you can change your mid, cid to tmo and flash it.
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Wait till HTC release T-Mobile RUU , you can change your mid, cid to tmo and flash it.
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I shouldn't have to flash the phone to get it to work. Also, the purpose of getting the unlocked version was to have a carrier-free phone.
The more I use this phone, the more I notice that LTE connectivity is screwed up. It likes to lock onto the wrong cell towers that offer no reception (but still display full bars).
What's interesting is that when I turn on Wi-Fi, the phone locks onto the correct cell towers.
Forget the camera; HTC needs to resolve all these radio connectivity issues!
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I shouldn't have to flash the phone to get it to work. Also, the purpose of getting the unlocked version was to have a carrier-free phone.
The more I use this phone, the more I notice that LTE connectivity is screwed up. It likes to lock onto the wrong cell towers that offer no reception (but still display full bars).
What's interesting is that when I turn on Wi-Fi, the phone locks onto the correct cell towers.
Forget the camera; HTC needs to resolve all these radio connectivity issues!
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I agree the purpose of getting the unlocked phone was to not have to have a carrier branded device. I noticed that as well with the phone connecting to be incorrect tower. It really is frustrating because I've already started paying for my phone so I don't want to have to return it, I like all aspects of it physically but something has to be done about this reception. I used to get 4 to 5 bars and now I'm lucky if I get two
This is really ridiculous, I've only had my phone off the charger for just over an hour and I've used 10% of battery. I don't keep Wi-Fi on all the time I only had to turn it on to use Wi-Fi calling because my signal is so bad, HTC really needs to do something with the radios in this phone because the poor cell signal is just killing my battery life. Is anybody experiencing this same problem?
Here's a screenshot
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This is really ridiculous, I've only had my phone off the charger for just over an hour and I've used 10% of battery. I don't keep Wi-Fi on all the time I only had to turn it on to use Wi-Fi calling because my signal is so bad, HTC really needs to do something with the radios in this phone because the poor cell signal is just killing my battery life. Is anybody experiencing this same problem?
Here's a screenshot
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You have a massive wake lock. Your issue doesn't reside with the radio.
DoctorB0NG said:
You have a massive wake lock. Your issue doesn't reside with the radio.
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ok how do i stop that?
Mark112887 said:
ok how do i stop that?
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Root your phone and then install better battery stats or gsam or any other utility that can show you specific wakelock stats and info. From there you can use that info to track down the specific wakelock.
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Root your phone and then install better battery stats or gsam or any other utility that can show you specific wakelock stats and info. From there you can use that info to track down the specific wakelock.
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nothing I can do if I don't want to root?
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ok how do i stop that?
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Perhaps it's an app that's draining your battery.
I found that the Wi-Fi activity stat is wrong. Even on airplane mode, my 10 says that Wi-Fis active.

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