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Nitro is not available in St Pete, FL

I went into all ATT, BestBuy and RadioShack around the town and none had LG Nitro. In BestBuy they don't even have a mokup and guy I talked to thought the phone is not out yet.
So I was wondering, why is that? Maybe it's because the phone is so f.up hardware wise, and we should expect a recall?

AT&T is being quite funny about the Nitro. I ran into the same problem with it in Boston when it came out. No one had a display model or stock. I had to call around to 5 stores before I found one. No clue why that is.

Why what's wrong with the Nitro hardware-wise?

The AT&T store is the only one local that has it in stock. I bought mine at Best Buy, but it was a special order. Dunno why they aren't pushing the Nitro. What is messed up hardware wise?

Broken compass is a huge blow (for me), mic in headset that works on 4 different android phones doesn't work on nitro, notifications also don't play through headset.
Horrible battery life if you use phone more then just keeping it in standby. Oh and have usb port on top - is a nonsense!

[email protected] said:
Broken compass is a huge blow (for me), mic in headset that works on 4 different android phones doesn't work on nitro, notifications also don't play through headset.
Horrible battery life if you use phone more then just keeping it in standby. Oh and have usb port on top - is a nonsense!
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Don't you already have the phone? Now you make it sound like you've never supported the phone, while you've been doing so from the beginning [email protected]
Compass is not broken, it just takes a while to find it's bearing (although the GPS catch is the fastest out there) Mic works perfectly on my headset (I use the Ultimate Ears TripleFi 10vi, and also tested it on the ibeats and beats pro and both worked fine). Notifications have always worked on every single headsets i used with this phone, with mic or no mic (sony, logitech, altec lansing, sennheiser, panasonic, etc). Battery life have improved in time over a months period, and now I just charged once and I can keep running the whole day using it for various things. And USB on top? works perfectly for me since I can line up the 3.5mm jack with the usb when I'm in the car and can put the phone in one of the cup holders. In case someone wants to mention the usb cover, it's not flimsy at all. as long as you don't try to yank it off, it does not even look like it will break anytime soon.
Now back to topic...I have a feeling AT&T might have some kind of an agreement with Samsung to promote their phones more aggressively over their other phones, maybe so they can get the Note and the Nexus in their roster. I actually noticed that AT&T makes no attempt to promote the LG phone other than during the announcement even from the first days it was released. In one of our malls here, there's 2 AT&T spots, one is a small kiosk, the other is a big store. Only the big store has it on display, and even now, 2 months later, the small kiosk still doesn't have it displayed. Same thing with a Radio Shack here in a town near me and in Brooklyn. I went in to look for possible cases for the phone, saw that there is no dummy phone shown, asked the guy where's the Nitro HD, and they're like huh? what phone? I had to speak to the manager and he said oh we do not carry that here.
I doubt it's hardware issue. If it was a battery issue, AT&T can issue a bigger better battery replacement instead of losing business. Or it could possibly be that they do not promote the phone to avoid having to deal with customer complaints about the battery, of course it only applies to those who don't wait and see how much better the battery is now. I still say it's something to do with an agreement with another maker.

aquariuz23 said:
Don't you already have the phone? Now you make it sound like you've never supported the phone, while you've been doing so from the beginning [email protected]
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not quiet understand you there. Yes, from the day one I was bashing this phone for it's flaws, simply because it's not worth the $600 price tag. If it was sold for $200 in retail, I'd love it.
aquariuz23 said:
Compass is not broken, it just takes a while to find it's bearing (although the GPS catch is the fastest out there)
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Really? Do you have anything to compare it with? I'd like to see how it works for you. For instance load up the google navigator and select "walk", then open the map and see how "you" will spin and point in all kind of directions while the phone is stays still.
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Mic works perfectly on my headset (I use the Ultimate Ears TripleFi 10vi, and also tested it on the ibeats and beats pro and both worked fine).
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Some headsets don't have problems, I agree, but some, that work on other phones don't work on Nitro. Lack of drivers? Maybe, I don't know, but it's a fact.
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Notifications have always worked on every single headsets i used with this phone, with mic or no mic (sony, logitech, altec lansing, sennheiser, panasonic, etc).
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Well, I'm not the only one experiencing this issue with at least email notifications.
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Battery life have improved in time over a months period, and now I just charged once and I can keep running the whole day using it for various things.
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Again, I'm comparing it to my use as I've been using 3 other phones in 4 years period, Nitro dies in 3 hours.
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And USB on top? works perfectly for me since I can line up the 3.5mm jack with the usb when I'm in the car and can put the phone in one of the cup holders.
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Perhaps, however don't expect any kind of gadgets such as docks or webtops for this phone. And do you know why they put that cover? It's to protect the usb port from dust and crap, because most people care the phone in their pockets, upside down...

Hmmm got home today at 9pm, looked at the phone and couldn't believe my eyes, it shows 4G LTE icon. Either I didn't notice it at 5pm or they added Tampa Bay to LTE network between 5 and 9 today...
Let's the throttling war begin

I just missed it! I was in St. Pete/Tampa over the weekend and was shocked they didn't have LTE (yes yes, I know they weren't on the short list of markets)... Congrats on getting it now! I live in Boston and work in NH and its such a huge difference in speed between HSPA (at work) and LTE (at home), its ridiculous.

pros and cons of nexus 7 2013?

everything is great on this new nexus 7.
but what are the cons?

How about some nice light bleeds in corners, or some dust under screen?
Oh wait, you haven't got them, right?
Here comes an update that kills your touch, hahahaaahahahaaa (said Google in Voldemort's most petrifying voice)
What the #$%@@? your touch is still intact...? well I've got an update that will kill your wifi. How about that huh....?

Doesn't have micro SD slot.
Doesn't have a snapdragon 800.
Doesn't have 4GB of ram.
Doesn't have a 4K screen.
Doesn't come with a chicken... Every top stuff comes with plus a chicken.

Pros:
BEAUTIFUL screen. It is gorgeous and very bright. You can't really say that about many tablets. It almost reaches to the level of my old Transformer Prime at 600 nits (it's about 583 nits at brightest)
Fast. This quad core S600-esque processor is so much faster than anything I've had for mobile. It's one of the reasons I upgraded
Cheap. It's $230 or $270. I got the $270 32GB which is roomy enough for my needs.
Long battery. I haven't had it for long, but I can already tell it is going to last almost as long as my TFP.
Small and can be held in a single hand.
REALLY good wifi reception.
GPS that works very well even inside
It's stock Google and will be updated as soon as KitKat or future Android upgrades come out. Plan for 2+ years of upgrades and support.
Loud stereo speakers
Support for practically any 3G/LTE data connection you'd like in the US.
Unlocked bootloader. You can modify anything inside this tablet.
Grippy matte-plastic back.
Sexy look, IMO
Thin and light.
Bluetooth Smart and 4.0 support. This will increase in popularity with wearable Bluetooth devices.
Cons:
Small screen. I think I would be happier with an 8" screen, but it's something I can live with.
No microSD slot. This is something that I can live with, and if you want, you can get a microUSB to microSD adapter.
Non-removable battery. You won't worry about this unless you are truly a road warrior. It should last you till you want to upgrade or longer.
No micro HDMI port. This, again, can be something I live with. You can use MHL I believe if you need it.
No TouchWiz or other OEM skins. Nothing I lose sleep over, just something for those who find the skinned editions of Android better than regular stock.
No camera flash. Doesn't bother me, I don't plan on taking pictures much with this tablet.
A few launch issues, maybe. It seems to be not too big (there are many users who probably don't have problems than the people who complain about it here) and is being resolved fairly quickly.
No vibrator. My hands miss the vibrations of my TFP, but it's ok.
No longer has a secure element with NFC. This means no more Google Wallet or other NFC-banking apps. You can still beam contacts and such. Not a big deal.
No 802.11ac wifi support. This isn't a big thing yet and is still just starting to get into mainstream routers. With the life time of your tablet, you probably won't see many AC routers until 2 years from now, and you probably won't be missing much. People still use .11g standards to this day.
The speakers apparently emit a hiss at low volume due to some digital volume reduction instead of using an actual amplifier.

swisstourist said:
everything is great on this new nexus 7.
but what are the cons?
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Drop tests show no survivals. Get a case or else, which might increase weight and size.
There is only T-Mobile offering Lte in USA. Verizon clueless on imei. Checking at&t Lte again tomorrow, but no tethering regardless.

Cons. Random reboots
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usb otg support with stock rom?

With NMI, yes.
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Cons. Random reboots
Sent from my Nexus 7
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https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/nexus/mG4JXaT-SHs[751-775-false]
And in some cases, even a custom ROM just holds the issue at bay for a while...

For me two things are the keyfeatures:
Price + size. I had an iPad, big tablets are not what I wanted.

owerner said:
For me two things are the keyfeatures:
Price + size. I had an iPad, big tablets are not what I wanted.
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you could get the ipad mini...

swisstourist said:
you could get the ipad mini...
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yea... *price*

I don't think there are any real cons to this tablet. Just personal preferences. Even the speaker hiss isn't noticeable unless you have ear pressed against the speaker. Overall its a very solid tablet.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 4

swisstourist said:
you could get the ipad mini...
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And use their locked down OS?!?!?!
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I've had no problems such as the aforementioned dust or light bleeds. Rooted out of the box, put carbon on it, never had a random reboot either.

The only con so far is that I can't use my 8-bitty Bluetooth gamepad. The new Bluetooth stack doesn't support it.
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swisstourist said:
everything is great on this new nexus 7.
but what are the cons?
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Here are some cons I am experiencing:
1.) BT unusable while connected to a 2.4 GHz WiFi:
http://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/nexus/ORce7P9V4qU
I'll sell mine if they can't fix it.
2.) Ugly downscaling from 1920x1200 to 1728x1080 if using slimport/HDMI:
http://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/mobile/cgKZEwu4CZg
"Workaround": Resolution Changer (root access req.!) from play store
3) Bad multi-touch behavior:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2381123
Apart from the display resolution (that's what I've bought it for) and the CPU/GPU performance (I don't care - I'm not a gamer), my old Galaxy Tab 7.7 is much better.
regards
TrashX

Actually if your lucky like me I dropped mine today actually the screen kinda popped loose a little it cut off my heart stopped lol (literally) but I snapped the screen in turned right on I almost cried lol only thing it did was deleted some apps I had weird but no issues now and still looks new
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If anything, whats working on the LG G3

I'm looking to move from Samsung, try something new, I've been looking at the G3 for months. Now that its in North America all I'm reading is this phone does not work. So dose it not work or not, is this phone a lemon all around?

It all depends on who you ask. Personally mine is amazing. Zero lag that people report (and I have my processor throttled way down to 157440 and gpu down to 389 but I also use nova launcher and the lag might come from the stock lg launcher) I get zero of the supposed over heating or hot issues. My ir blaster works at an amazing range (only problem is you have to aim it right at the ir port of your tv, dvd, bluray, cable box... Whatever. Looks like the wavelength is fairly narrow unlike your standard remote ir diode) and there's plenty of people that will agree with what I've said. Then again there's the complete polar opposite of people that swear there's a ridiculous amount of lag. With heat issues and the ir blaster doesn't work at more than 5 feet from the device you're aiming at.
I suggest go to an AT&T store and play with one for a bit see how you like it.

Coming from OPO, will I be happy

I broke one OPO yesterday beyond repair, its not worth sending it back for the amount they are going to charge me to fix it($223). Will I be happy switching to the G3 since it is a very similar phone or should I look towards something like the G4. I know the G4 is apparently riddled with problems(touch screen issues being the worst) so that scares me a bit.
My biggest concern with the G3 is not the hardware. I know the 801 is still a decent CPU and will hold up for a while, I am nervous about continued support and updates being that the phone is already over a year old.
Sorry if this has been asked a million times, the OPO was my work phone and i need to make this decision ASAP.

wondering the same thing

LG g3 is best phone
better call time and standby time
okay you get like 3-4h screen on against 8h on opo but the opo didnt hold a day at work with bluetooth on and 2h browsing it came dead home mostly or at 10%
but the lg g3 in 2h loses 5% with bluetooth and 3g the opo lost more like 10-15% with the same bluetooth and lg g watch
over all better quality phone and smaller for the same screen
okay its a bit more plastic and slippy, but a tpu case fixes that, the opo has a slow and bad touchscreen worked but needed to press it hard/harder than normal
voila i recommand the lg g3 to all
6months of having a opo was enough the phone wan't premium like i wanted
(exchanged it for a gold 16gb lg g3 about the same value) but a 32gb would be better to have the 3gb ram that the only thing i miss

From my experience (never owned a OPO), I like my LG G3 (not love..). You shouldn't be worried about updates (we will be getting M) and XDA is a great place for updates (AOSP). As for battery, you may or may not like it, it varies for everyone but for me, I can get through a day easily with moderate usage (no gaming, texting, browsing the web, youtube, etc.). If you choose to root, you can get more on AOSP but it varies.
Overall, I like my LG G3 and would recommend it to you as well.
One last thing, the G4 sounds great too but you shouldn't be too worried about touch screen issues on the G4 because I'm sure it's a rare issue and the chances of it happening to you sound so slim. Don't worry too much, its just a phone
Good luck!

reggiexp said:
LG g3 is best phone
better call time and standby time
okay you get like 3-4h screen on against 8h on opo but the opo didnt hold a day at work with bluetooth on and 2h browsing it came dead home mostly or at 10%
but the lg g3 in 2h loses 5% with bluetooth and 3g the opo lost more like 10-15% with the same bluetooth and lg g watch
over all better quality phone and smaller for the same screen
okay its a bit more plastic and slippy, but a tpu case fixes that, the opo has a slow and bad touchscreen worked but needed to press it hard/harder than normal
voila i recommand the lg g3 to all
6months of having a opo was enough the phone wan't premium like i wanted
(exchanged it for a gold 16gb lg g3 about the same value) but a 32gb would be better to have the 3gb ram that the only thing i miss
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The OPO did have a solid battery, but I had touch screen issues like you mentioned. They seemed to come and go. When it "exploded" it did have a TPU case and glass screen protector but that didnt save it.
IamFlynn said:
From my experience (never owned a OPO), I like my LG G3 (not love..). You shouldn't be worried about updates (we will be getting M) and XDA is a great place for updates (AOSP). As for battery, you may or may not like it, it varies for everyone but for me, I can get through a day easily with moderate usage (no gaming, texting, browsing the web, youtube, etc.). If you choose to root, you can get more on AOSP but it varies.
Overall, I like my LG G3 and would recommend it to you as well.
One last thing, the G4 sounds great too but you shouldn't be too worried about touch screen issues on the G4 because I'm sure it's a rare issue and the chances of it happening to you sound so slim. Don't worry too much, its just a phone
Good luck!
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I am not a power user, little to no gaming so I think I should be ok.
I am sure the G4 issues are not on every phone but there is a 50 page thread over there about the screen issues and a lot of pissed off people who have returned multiple phones and some who just gave up altogether and moved on. It seems to be a little more than the typical issues that all phones inevitably have.

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I am sure the G4 issues are not on every phone but there is a 50 page thread over there about the screen issues and a lot of pissed off people who have returned multiple phones and some who just gave up altogether and moved on. It seems to be a little more than the typical issues that all phones inevitably have.
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Nonetheless, don't be afraid to try, you have options. Good luck mate!

I ended up pulling the trigger on a used g3 fulfilled by amazon. It is def a solid phone and was pretty cheap.
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skrypj said:
I ended up pulling the trigger on a used g3 fulfilled by amazon. It is def a solid phone and was pretty cheap.
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good for you
the battery will be a bit different
but after some weeks you will get used to it
the opo has lots of screen on time but not standby so at work i don't see much difference using it 2h aday opo or lg g3 about hte same at the end of the day cause of the bad standby
but on a lazy day at home the opo was great 6h straight on the phone gaming internet no problem, lg 2-4h but at the end it is all worth it
i always wanted a lg g3/g2 but was to expensive that why i bought the opo and since the price of the opo didnt go down after 6mopnths use i could exchange it for a lg g3 16gb who was 350 new and 250 2nd had but right now about the same value 300euro new
any way enjoy the lg g3

my opinion is: GO FOR IT!
The LG G3 still one of the best this days and worth the money (32GB/3GB are at 365€ in Portugal ~399$ dollars).
If you are worried because updates and other things, for more 50$ you get the Motorola Nexus 6 32GB and get updates faster, have the SD805 is a bit more faster tha SD801 and is the only thing who are better...but some users report battery issues, screen issues (burning, get pinkish screen) etc etc, depends of lucky not necessary will you have those problems! i own a G3 and i love it:
camera is amazing;
sound is louder but dont have the same quality as Nexus 6!
weight is excellent to handle
screen without sharpness mod is a bit strange because oversharpening;
love the rear buttons and i cant live without this now, is so useful;
OST is about 4 hours but sometimes i get more if i use the phone inside home, i lower the brightness and i get about 5:30 hours;
easy to disassemble if you broke/damage something (i disassembly my G3 to apply thermal compound in processor to have good temps, because my G3 have heat issues.);
have a remote IR, other high-end phones dont have it, is so useful to me because sometimes i forget my remote and use the phone as my remote;
battery can be changed and with this if you get your battery damaged or have one to replace when run out of power you can do it;
overall is a good phone, is my opinion, when i was go to buy a high-end phone i am confused with Motorola Nexus 6 and LG G3, but because the issues is more in Nexus 6 than in G3 i buy the G3 for sure...but, if you arent worred about issues of Nexus 6, buy the Nexus 6 because have better screen color, no oversharpening and have better sound quality because have stereo speakers and have the updates faster!

So I got the phone. It was nearly flawless with a few very minor scratches on the screen. In order to see them you had look at the phone off angle from the bottom right corner, during a full moon, while the planets aligned. In other words I am very happy from a condition standpoint. So far the phone has been great, the camera is way faster, typing seems to be WAY more acurate than my last few phones, and its got an IR blaster which is did not realize. Battery does seem to drain quicker but i am not a power user so i dont think it will be an issue getting through the day.

To me, having seen OPO but not used for long, just do it. OPO is a good phone - for the price tag. Since you can get a cheap factory refurbished G3 now, I see no reason not to move on. Battery is super good with some tweaks and custom roms. Moderate usage and still around 70-80% of battery before going to bed. If you are not showing off your new phone that not many care any more, get a year old phone like g3, s5, and m8...

Question On display camera.

Can anyone explain how this is a feature? I mean it doesn't bother me. But the more I think about it . The less it feels like a feature. And more it feels like something fishy. I don't know enough about stuff to understand access to data under a proprietary feature. But at the bare minimum I've never thought you know what this phone needs is that small crappy front facing camera to be in the display . I think I prefer it not there at all since the phone opens the back camera is sufficient for both. End of the day I believe this will be my last samsung. I hate the front screen and inside screen is cool and impressive but still kinda annoying. In my mind these devices should come with all the quirks ironed out. I still enjoy my note 3 rooted as much if not more. And the note 20 ultra was a solid device but wasn't a big upgrade from my 10+. Bare minimum samsung not including accessories is just lame. I would have probably made the closed screen slightly larger for easier use on the go and then the use on the inside screen for less often use in casual settings.
Just my thoughts a month in and was curious to hear others thoughts. I know it's probably and amazing device for someone who doesn't upgrade frequently but as someone who does it was probably the device that has ended my desire for new and cool over tested and true. .
Anyone stumble across any lesser known features or functions that aren't well known?
Customization wise:
I use wavelet and my bose in car sounds amazing.
And have good lock/nice lock until hex is functional again.
Ad block
and system ui tuner that doesn't seem to be adding much
and I tried to see if I could use adb and 3c but it doesn't seem to improve much or increase any functional use but I just had it long ago and thought I'd see if it was useful
The latest update has improved my mobile service in rural areas near by sprint on tmobile experience
I haven't debloated because honestly the device probably wouldn't improve much with less and I'm kinda waiting to understand what all is needed until my account is fully tmobile. I assume nothing they have changes much but since it can't currently be unlocked on tmobile side I'm curious to how it's locked since it's not supposed to be sprint sim compatible. But still has the sprint unlock uicdd on device hidden with tmobile unlock visible. I also hope someone comes out with a case that has a tiny bluetooth keyboard , I think that would be kinda cool.

Ok

I know that for everyone, no device is perfect. As much as I LOVE this Fold 3, it's not perfect, but it's about as close as a mobile device has come for me. Then again, I know that I am also an edge-case as I use my Fold 3 in a way that most others do not. I use it as a Mobile Office. I call it my 3-pocket-laptop (look on YT for a video titled 4 pocket laptop to see what I am getting at).
I have a foldable BT KB with Trackpad, folding Tablet Stand and a 20kMah battery pack I take along and I can literally work from anywhere I have signal. I even made a portable, battery powered monitor (from an old Laptop and some parts I had to order (controller and the like)) I made that I can stuff in a backpack and have an even better experience when on the go. I no longer need to carry my work laptop with me with this setup.
So yeah, I get why it may not work for you, but for me, I love it.

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I have a foldable BT KB with Trackpad, folding Tablet Stand and a 20kMah battery pack I take along and I can literally work from anywhere I have signal. I even made a portable, battery powered monitor (from an old Laptop and some parts I had to order (controller and the like)) I made that I can stuff in a backpack and have an even better experience when on the go. I no longer need to carry my work laptop with me with this setup.
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Pics please! I've seen the Mr Mobile video you're referring to, that was a fantastic idea!

Talderon said:
I know that for everyone, no device is perfect. As much as I LOVE this Fold 3, it's not perfect, but it's about as close as a mobile device has come for me. Then again, I know that I am also an edge-case as I use my Fold 3 in a way that most others do not. I use it as a Mobile Office. I call it my 3-pocket-laptop (look on YT for a video titled 4 pocket laptop to see what I am getting at).
I have a foldable BT KB with Trackpad, folding Tablet Stand and a 20kMah battery pack I take along and I can literally work from anywhere I have signal. I even made a portable, battery powered monitor (from an old Laptop and some parts I had to order (controller and the like)) I made that I can stuff in a backpack and have an even better experience when on the go. I no longer need to carry my work laptop with me with this setup.
So yeah, I get why it may not work for you, but for me, I love it.
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I saw that video and thought it was completely awesome what he did with the Z Fold3 and turning it into a complete desktop solution and even his Microsoft only co-worker was impressed with it.

vinokirk said:
Pics please! I've seen the Mr Mobile video you're referring to, that was a fantastic idea!
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I'll get some pics up soon. I am redesigning the "monitor" case now and want to have an all-in-one unit to show off.
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I saw that video and thought it was completely awesome what he did with the Z Fold3 and turning it into a complete desktop solution and even his Microsoft only co-worker was impressed with it.
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Yeah, I am former MSFT myself and several people there want me to try the same thing with a Duo 2 (which they are sending me) and do a comparison. This will be fun!