My girlfriend has the M8 as her backup phone. She took it out of the drawer today to update it before starting to use it, and she found that it would only get 4.4.4 rather than Lollipop like she was expecting.
Is it true that the official 5.1 update won't be here until August or so?
Is it advisable for her to install a custom Lollipop ROM to tide her over until the official update? She wants to keep the Sense UI around.
If so, what ROM(s) are best/most popular/easiest to install?
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My girlfriend has the M8 as her backup phone. She took it out of the drawer today to update it before starting to use it, and she found that it would only get 4.4.4 rather than Lollipop like she was expecting.
Is it true that the official 5.1 update won't be here until August or so?
Is it advisable for her to install a custom Lollipop ROM to tide her over until the official update? She wants to keep the Sense UI around.
If so, what ROM(s) are best/most popular/easiest to install?
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1: yes
2: 5.0.1, or 5..0.2 are both Lollipop. 5.1.0 is an update to it.
3: I suggest ViperOneM8. I flashed it right after I bout my M8, and never looked back. When I had my last phone (Galaxy S3), I was flashing a new one every week or two.
Now........... What carrier are you on? Chances are that there is a lollipop update for your girlfriends phone.
And is she S-Off? Because that would make everything super simple. Either way, you can update her firmware (you'll need to do that to run the latest ROMs) with S-On or S-Off.
Give some more information so someone can point you in the proper direction.
garrettw87 said:
My girlfriend has the M8 as her backup phone. She took it out of the drawer today to update it before starting to use it, and she found that it would only get 4.4.4 rather than Lollipop like she was expecting.
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You need to OTA update to 4.4.4 before you can update to 5.0. OTAs need to be installed in sequence, and you can't skip one.
garrettw87 said:
[*]Is it true that the official 5.1 update won't be here until August or so?
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Yes, but there is a 5.0 update already available for the huge majority of variants (if not all).
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Now........... What carrier are you on? Chances are that there is a lollipop update for your girlfriends phone.
And is she S-Off? Because that would make everything super simple. Either way, you can update her firmware (you'll need to do that to run the latest ROMs) with S-On or S-Off.
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She's on AT&T, and from what little I know of S-Off, she is not that.
redpoint73 said:
You need to OTA update to 4.4.4 before you can update to 5.0. OTAs need to be installed in sequence, and you can't skip one.
Yes, but there is a 5.0 update already available for the huge majority of variants (if not all).
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She did update to 4.4.4, and it wasn't offering any further OTA updates... until just now when I checked again. So she's probably able to get 5.0.2 now. Wonder why it couldn't tell her that the other day.
garrettw87 said:
She did update to 4.4.4, and it wasn't offering any further OTA updates... until just now when I checked again. So she's probably able to get 5.0.2 now. Wonder why it couldn't tell her that the other day.
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You can only check for updates once a day. Apparently, this is true even if there is more than one update in the queue.
redpoint73 said:
You can only check for updates once a day. Apparently, this is true even if there is more than one update in the queue.
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Sorry but not true. Just returned mine to stock 4.4.2 then got 4.4.4 offered, then immediately got 5.0.2 after reboot
gazzacbr said:
Sorry but not true. Just returned mine to stock 4.4.2 then got 4.4.4 offered, then immediately got 5.0.2 after reboot
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Thanks for the info. But one thing to note, its easy to forget the fact that AT&T is a unique animal. For AT&T branded devices, updates don't roll out from HTC directly, they must go through AT&T's network and by no other means.
What you say may or may not be true for AT&T; they have their own (annoying) way of doing things. I did state "apparently" you can only download one update a day in the OP's case; just based on the fact that they stated they updated, then no other updates came up that day, but did a couple days later. You may well be correct, and maybe there was something else preventing the subsequent update from downloading that day.
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Just checking. I just went from MyFroYo6 to SlideM and I received a notification saying there is new firmware available.
Is this actually brand spankin' new firmware or was I not getting this notification because I was running MyFroYo6, Cyanogenmod, and Team Fenix?
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Just checking. I just went from MyFroYo6 to SlideM and I received a notification saying there is new firmware available.
Is this actually brand spankin' new firmware or was I not getting this notification because I was running MyFroYo6, Cyanogenmod, and Team Fenix?
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No....You need to update to CR's OTA which is the latest..Slidemeroot is based off of a older version of the firmware.CR's OTA also has the newer radio(which may give better batt,signal,etc..)
I thought I had installed his OTA. Not the ROM but the essential files. Did I undo this by going back to SlideM?
Sleef said:
I thought I had installed his OTA. Not the ROM but the essential files. Did I undo this by going back to SlideM?
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If you wiped I would say so. But shouldn't if you just flashed a nandroid backup.
But, my wife is running SlidemeRoot5 and received the update notification. We allowed it to update and it didn't really do anything, and she didn't lose root. But as usual, yymv.
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I thought I had installed his OTA. Not the ROM but the essential files. Did I undo this by going back to SlideM?
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But you changed roms to an older ver, you still have the same radio but that roms is older. The tmo update server reads the phone as needing an update.
Right on! I was just revisiting the Sense apps. I missed the copy/paste feature and Dragon Dictation. Nandroided back to MyFroYo6 after getting a 281 benchmark score. (Yes, I also noticed the slowness myself.)
Thanks for the answers, y'all. Just saw Megadeth, by the way.
Just received my G2 from Tmobile yesterday, turned on the phone and there was a notifaction saying there is a new version that has Wifi calling and many more fixes. My question is that will I be albe to perm root my G2 now after I updated? Thank you
Yes you will be able to perm root w/o a problem. Go to the G2 android development sections and all your answers are already there
should i get the update from tmobile after getting root
i rooted first since it was easy and now i get a notification saying i got an update is it ok to update thanks in advance
You can root and go straight to a custom rom that takes those fixes and much much more. I recommend CM or Enom's for functionality or virtuous for aesthetics.
jonathann0222 said:
i rooted first since it was easy and now i get a notification saying i got an update is it ok to update thanks in advance
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do not update if you are rooted. it will break root
scoperyder said:
Just received my G2 from Tmobile yesterday, turned on the phone and there was a notifaction saying there is a new version that has Wifi calling and many more fixes. My question is that will I be albe to perm root my G2 now after I updated? Thank you
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I received a new G2 last week, applied the OTA update for wifi calling, and then successfully perma-rooted using the wiki. Took about an hour to go from stock to CM 6.1.1 and overclocked to 1.51Ghz.
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do not update if you are rooted. it will break root
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But assuming that's the original T-Mo OTA (and I've seen nothing to suggest there's a new one) then it's safe to install the OTA and simply re-root.
You are correct, of course, that folks should stay clear of future OTAs if they are rooted though, till they've been checked by the devs - see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=875099
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But assuming that's the original T-Mo OTA (and I've seen nothing to suggest there's a new one) then it's safe to install the OTA and simply re-root.
You are correct, of course, that folks should stay clear of future OTAs if they are rooted though, till they've been checked by the devs - see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=875099
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Yeah, I think it just threw some people off with the idea of an ota on a new device. It's still the same ole 1st ota for the G2 unfortunately. Nothing to rip out or borrow...
weird that it didn't come with the ota already on the device but since android, ota's haven't been flashed on the device. nevermind, I thinking of the old wm devices... I'm a bit tired.
HTC/USA TWEETED today that today's update is the first part of the 2 part 4.3 VZW update. Today was a compatibility update for the 4.3 update.
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jbh00jh said:
HTC/USA TWEETED today that today's update is the first part of the 2 part 4.3 VZW update. Today was a compatibility update for the 4.3 update.
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The only way that makes sense is if it updates recovery. I'm not really sure why anyone would still be on the stock rom anyway ...
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123421342 said:
The only way that makes sense is if it updates recovery. I'm not really sure why anyone would still be on the stock rom anyway ...
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Just telling what is on Twitter, was posted 20 hours ago. And 90% of vzw customers are stock.
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Updated info from HTC
Here is further info from HTC regarding updates to the Verizon HTC One (about halfway down the page). 4.3 update in December, and 4.4 late January.
Quote: HTC USA also addressed the question of Android 4.3 and 4.4 updates for the Verizon HTC One, which yesterday received a small update to its existing 4.2-based firmware. HTC describes this as a "compatibility update," to be followed by a 4.3 OTA in December. The delay to the Android 4.3 rollout on Verizon won't affect the planned 4.4 launch on the carrier in late January, HTC's message added.
Link to article: http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-reveals-more-kitkat-update-details
I'll believe it when I see it.
123421342 said:
The only way that makes sense is if it updates recovery. I'm not really sure why anyone would still be on the stock rom anyway ...
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It did and often does.
It updated recovery and hboot, which would be very possible to have to change to allow the 4.3 OTA to actually flash properly when it's put out.
So if we didn't do the OTA we will have to do an OTA.zip to do the 4.3?
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I'd just wait for the devs to do their thing. The last thing that I want is to have s-on and my buttloader locked again.
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And by buttloader I mean boot loader....
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So if we didn't do the OTA we will have to do an OTA.zip to do the 4.3?
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Ok, so I took the .15 ota as is and still was s-off and unlocked. All I had to do was flash supersu and done.
Just cleaned up the bloat and made my edits for remove location icon n WiFi nag.. no negative effects.
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jbh00jh said:
HTC/USA TWEETED today that today's update is the first part of the 2 part 4.3 VZW update. Today was a compatibility update for the 4.3 update.
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Santod made the joke that the update was to help us get better updates. Turns out it wasn't a joke :laugh:
Taking the OTAs
Guys, I am at a loss here...I got the Verizon HTC ONE, used rumrunner to achieve S-OFF, Unlock, and Root, then flashed CWM 6.0.4.4 (I do have installed aps that require root if that matters) That's it. No de-bloat, no custom ROM, nothing. When I re-flash the original stock recovery back and try to check for and take the OTAs from the front end, I get "no new software update available". I'm still on 1.10.605.2 and original firmware. Would like to take this thing up to latest, be S-OFF, Unlocked, Rooted still but still off the shelf or stock for a bit more until I have shaken this thing down more.
I like the look of Santod's ROMs, probably will end up there, but not yet . His stock updated ROMs appear to have too much blue baked in for me - I like it off the shelf right now.
Thanks in advance if anyone can help guide me.
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Guys, I am at a loss here...I got the Verizon HTC ONE, used rumrunner to achieve S-OFF, Unlock, and Root, then flashed CWM 6.0.4.4 (I do have installed aps that require root if that matters) That's it. No de-bloat, no custom ROM, nothing. When I re-flash the original stock recovery back and try to check for and take the OTAs from the front end, I get "no new software update available". I'm still on 1.10.605.2 and original firmware. Would like to take this thing up to latest, be S-OFF, Unlocked, Rooted still but still off the shelf or stock for a bit more until I have shaken this thing down more.
I like the look of Santod's ROMs, probably will end up there, but not yet . His stock updated ROMs appear to have too much blue baked in for me - I like it off the shelf right now.
Thanks in advance if anyone can help guide me.
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Have you frozen anything at all in Titanium Backup? If I remember correctly you have to relock your bootloader to be able to OTA (I may be mistaken though). If I were you I'd just wait until someone posts an OTApkg.zip (I think there's one available already) and just flash that instead.
eharvey said:
Guys, I am at a loss here...I got the Verizon HTC ONE, used rumrunner to achieve S-OFF, Unlock, and Root, then flashed CWM 6.0.4.4 (I do have installed aps that require root if that matters) That's it. No de-bloat, no custom ROM, nothing. When I re-flash the original stock recovery back and try to check for and take the OTAs from the front end, I get "no new software update available". I'm still on 1.10.605.2 and original firmware. Would like to take this thing up to latest, be S-OFF, Unlocked, Rooted still but still off the shelf or stock for a bit more until I have shaken this thing down more.
I like the look of Santod's ROMs, probably will end up there, but not yet . His stock updated ROMs appear to have too much blue baked in for me - I like it off the shelf right now.
Thanks in advance if anyone can help guide me.
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No OTA will download onto the .02 software.
That was a version that shouldn't really have been distributed as far as I can see.
It will never see or allow for an OTA, so you will need to update to a stock .08 or stock .10 rom to be able to get the .15 OTA.
By the way, my stock roms are 100% stock, I did not change the colors of a single thing in my stock roms.
They are there for the 100% stock experience and for restore purposes. The .15 will be posted today as well.
NuSenseONE Max has blue elements added, but none of my stock roms do.
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No OTA will download onto the .02 software.
That was a version that shouldn't really have been distributed as far as I can see.
It will never see or allow for an OTA, so you will need to update to a stock .08 or stock .10 rom to be able to get the .15 OTA.
By the way, my stock roms are 100% stock, I did not change the colors of a single thing in my stock roms.
They are there for the 100% stock experience and for restore purposes. The .15 will be posted today as well.
NuSenseONE Max has blue elements added, but none of my stock roms do.
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While this is not the correct thread to ask, why would .2 not accept OTA's on top of it?
refreblast said:
While this is not the correct thread to ask, why would .2 not accept OTA's on top of it?
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As stated, I don't think the .2 software was supposed to be distributed.
As you can see from the story above, it does not pull the OTA's.
I have seen this now on the last couple OTA's where folks on .2 were not able to see any updates.
One user took his to Verizon to have it replaced/updated there.
Most of them appeared to have had .2 at one point and then were updated/reflashed to the .8 and the box relabeled before being sold.
Most of the boxes still had the .2 sticker under the new .8 one.
Point is, it wasn't supposed to be distributed as far as I can tell and since it's not truly a Release version, it won't update.
You would have to ask Verizon/HTC for any further clarification then that.
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As stated, I don't think the .2 software was supposed to be distributed.
As you can see from the story above, it does not pull the OTA's.
I have seen this now on the last couple OTA's where folks on .2 were not able to see any updates.
One user took his to Verizon to have it replaced/updated there.
Most of them appeared to have had .2 at one point and then were updated/reflashed to the .8 and the box relabeled before being sold.
Most of the boxes still had the .2 sticker under the new .8 one.
Point is, it wasn't supposed to be distributed as far as I can tell and since it's not truly a Release version, it won't update.
You would have to ask Verizon/HTC for any further clarification then that.
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Lol @santod040 is a freaking HTC One Oracle. I never even knew .2 was thing before he asked that let alone knowing it was jank and wouldn't accept OTAs. How did he get .2? I got the phone like 4 days after Verizon launched it and it had .8.
EDIT: Nvm. I'm derp and didn't read all of santod's response before posting lol
BreakingVZW said:
Lol @santod040 is a freaking HTC One Oracle.
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And a HTC Thunderbolt Oracle.
Cheers!
AMEN!!
TheBeardedMann said:
And a HTC Thunderbolt Oracle.
Cheers!
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Forget Verizon ... Just root and run 4.3/5.5 .. first it was a month delayed which would have been November now it's December ... They just released the max . They will focus on that now and the one will be just like the
DNA or incredible 4g on Verizon
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We now have a second week of December time frame for the 4.3 update, so I assume we'll see it around the second week of January, just in time to be told that KitKat is being pushed back to the day after never.
IceDragon59 said:
We now have a second week of December time frame for the 4.3 update, so I assume we'll see it around the second week of January, just in time to be told that KitKat is being pushed back to the day after never.
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This makes sense because 1 month after the 3rd week of October is the 2nd week of December, right? Verizon?
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Just got my D851 with stock 5.0.1 preinstalled.
Its telling me to update the phone.
Has anyone updated via the air method?
Not sure what it is but wanted to be sure if its MM or 5.1.1 before I moved forward
tiguy99 said:
Just got my D851 with stock 5.0.1 preinstalled.
Its telling me to update the phone.
Has anyone updated via the air method?
Not sure what it is but wanted to be sure if its MM or 5.1.1 before I moved forward
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As a rule of thumb if you plan to root, you should NEVER update. Updating will usually patch any exploits the devs use to root our phones. It depends on what you want to do with your phone down the line.... Update at your own risk.
@tiguy99, also it's definitely not MM. I'm not even sure 5.1.1 was ever released either.
I know the D851 has been unlocked from the get-go (didn't need bumping like the others in the past) but as the previous post alluded to, the OTA just might lock it down. Be sure and be careful.
LG G3 D851, PAC-MAN ROM, Tapatalk 4.9.5
Sorry, my post was not helpful. Here is something you can do: long press on the update notification and click on the "info" icon and disable the notification. This way you are less likely to accidentally update, and it won't bother you as much.
tiguy99 said:
Just got my D851 with stock 5.0.1 preinstalled.
Its telling me to update the phone.
Has anyone updated via the air method?
Not sure what it is but wanted to be sure if its MM or 5.1.1 before I moved forward
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If it is a stock D851 running on Tmo, then the update is probably the recent update of 20e (released back on June 9) to 20g (released back in October). There has been a lot of that just within the last 60 days. However, it is still Android 5.0.1. Tmo has NOT upgraded our G3 to anything beyond 5.0.1 yet, but has committed to updating us to Marshmallow Android 6, probably sometime in the next 3 months.
As for the update, all 20g did was patch the Stagefright vulnerability that had been discovered back in August. That was a vulnerability in Lollipop wordwide on all carriers. Look at your phone info under settings. If you are on 20e, it will not hurt at all to upgrade. But in any case, the update you are seeing is DEFINITELY NOT 5.1.1 and it is DEFINITELY NOT Marshmallow. It is still 5.0.1. Good luck.
Please hit the THANKS button if I helped you.
I got mine week ago and updated it didn't root but used Newest Root Method in general section and finally got it.
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As a rule of thumb if you plan to root, you should NEVER update. Updating will usually patch any exploits the devs use to root our phones. It depends on what you want to do with your phone down the line.... Update at your own risk.
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That being said, I made the mistake of updating. Now I'm having a very hard time trying to root my D851 20g. Can I restore to Kitkat for the purpose of rooting?
Dude this is the wrong forum for a question like this. Should be in Q&A or General. You'll get better answers there.
vance74 said:
That being said, I made the mistake of updating. Now I'm having a very hard time trying to root my D851 20g. Can I restore to Kitkat for the purpose of rooting?
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No need. Google 'Newest root method' D851 xda download file thru your browser double click on windows batch file. Follow prompts. Hope this helps you out.
I too got my D851 last week. It had KK 4.2.2 and wanted to update. So I decided to go ahead and do the OTA. The final result was 5.0.1 D85120g. I don't think there are any higher updates yet. Rooted without issue using Newest Root Method mentioned above, again, without issue.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/general/guide-root-method-lg-devices-t3129197
However, if you are still unsure, you can always downgrade to a lower version. You will have to do a search for D85110r in the KDZ file version and find the loader for that file. Took me a little time to find it but I have both the KDZ file and loader.
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No need. Google 'Newest root method' D851 xda download file thru your browser double click on windows batch file. Follow prompts. Hope this helps you out.
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I tried that 1 click method and it failed. I have the &D851 20g Lollipop 5.0.1. Any idea why it's failing other than error on my behalf?
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I tried that 1 click method and it failed. I have the &D851 20g Lollipop 5.0.1. Any idea why it's failing other than error on my behalf?
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I believe it's because you've downloaded 20G. Probably got patched. Did the method I mentioned work out for you?
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I believe it's because you've downloaded 20G. Probably got patched. Did the method I mentioned work out for you?
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Yes it finally did. I was busyviver the holidays but whenbi had some down time and peace and quiet I tried it. It wokwd perfect. Thanks again.
I have tried to update my chinese XT1635-03 to 7.1.1 with OTA through ADB sideload and unfortunately it is not working.
I have sucessfully flashed the phone with reteu latest firmware with April security patch (ADDISON_NPNS25.137-24-1-9_cid50_subsidy-DEFAULT_regulatory-DEFAULT_CFC.xml) through fastboot.
But once I try to sideload 7.1.1 OTA (Blur_Version.26.1.22.addison.retail.en.US) the process terminates at 47% with notification that the package expects product name "addison" but actual value is "addison_retcn"
Is it possible to either change the product name or disable such check of product name? It seems to me, that at the moment there is no way to flash OTA and I need to wait for full 7.1.1 image.
Reading similar questions around, I have to ask. Why you people cannot wait couple of weeks to get OTA? Instead of risking to brick your device?
New update is not bringing revolutionary/awesome/amazing/mind blowing... new features. I understand if it's update to completely new Android version or that your device/region will not get update at all.
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You have XT1635-03 and the update is for XT1635-02. So if you have a reteu phone you can really update over sideload without issues. And yes, I need android 7.1.1 and I wouldn't wait one day longer. I need app-shortcuts, because I had this on my old phone, too. There was android 7.1 since the first day. But if you don't have it before you can't miss it. So you can wait much easier For me it was important for other issues, too. For example Wifi problems and stability fixes and over 100 security fixes. Many reasons for the update
Edit: And one more reason for the update: To help google to get more than 0.6% for android 7.1 We should update all, otherwise android 7.1 will never get 1%
Everybody should help to get this 1% maybe next month. So update, just do it for the 1%, yes xD
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The reason is simple: I do not want to use chinese firmware and flashed reteu with fastboot. As OTA channel is still retcn I will not get any OTA over the air. I expected that it is possible to manually sideload OTA but I was wrong as OTA checks the name of the device.
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The reason is simple: I do not want to use chinese firmware and flashed reteu with fastboot. As OTA channel is still retcn I will not get any OTA over the air. I expected that it is possible to manually sideload OTA but I was wrong as OTA checks the name of the device.
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The point is, how can you change the channel...
freeman_g said:
The reason is simple: I do not want to use chinese firmware and flashed reteu with fastboot. As OTA channel is still retcn I will not get any OTA over the air. I expected that it is possible to manually sideload OTA but I was wrong as OTA checks the name of the device.
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OK, makes sense for you but for many/most others is just matter of time.
I'm not blaming anyone. Do whatever you want with your phone, just be ready if something goes wrong
The surprise was a different phone name. Different channel is usually not a problem
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The surprise was a different phone name. Different channel is usually not a problem
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Flash a custom ROM, I have been warning people not to flash ota's cause eventually your going to end up hard bricked.
There's no possible way safely to change your channel.
Stock firmware that is an ota always has checks during the flashing process, which prevents bricking devices.
I always suggest if your running stock firmware on moto devices then remain on your firmware that is specifically designed for your channel.
If you want the latest that android offers, custom ROMs are your best bet.
I have had many moto devices and almost every brick was so idiot that flashed Firmware and bootloaders and accepted an ota and bam HARD BRICKED
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Flash a custom ROM, I have been warning people not to flash ota's cause eventually your going to end up hard bricked.
There's no possible way safely to change your channel.
Stock firmware that is an ota always has checks during the flashing process, which prevents bricking devices.
I always suggest if your running stock firmware on moto devices then remain on your firmware that is specifically designed for your channel.
If you want the latest that android offers, custom ROMs are your best bet.
I have had many moto devices and almost every brick was so idiot that flashed Firmware and bootloaders and accepted an ota and bam HARD BRICKED
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Oh no, can't go back. What can I do now? But all is working. Can it be that my reteu phone will be bricked after next OTA?
allrightlite said:
Oh no, can't go back. What can I do now? But all is working. Can it be that my reteu phone will be bricked after next OTA?
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I have no idea
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I have no idea
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Is it ever happend?
But is the US-version not always the same as the EU-version? The only difference is over which channel it comes.
allrightlite said:
Is it ever happend?
But is the US-version not always the same as the EU-version? The only difference is over which channel it comes.
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If you are not 100% bone stock and unmodified, there is always some risk when accepting an OTA carrier update. On any device. Some the risks are bigger than others. Moto seems to be fairly high risk in this regard.
If you want OTAs, and you want to be safe, don't modify anything. If you insist on mods (which I usually do, but not yet on MZP) then always update via a manual method, never accept an OTA.
dandrumheller said:
If you are not 100% bone stock and unmodified, there is always some risk when accepting an OTA carrier update. On any device. Some the risks are bigger than others. Moto seems to be fairly high risk in this regard.
If you want OTAs, and you want to be safe, don't modify anything. If you insist on mods (which I usually do, but not yet on MZP) then always update via a manual method, never accept an OTA.
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I have all 100% stock. And all is working after update. Seems there is really no difference between US and EU channel. Can't find any changes. So OTA should work in future. But sure, there are channel with differences, for example the chinese version is not the same.
allrightlite said:
I have all 100% stock. And all is working after update. Seems there is really no difference between US and EU channel. Can't find any changes. So OTA should work in future. But sure, there are channel with differences, for example the chinese version is not the same.
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If you sideloaded an update, you are no longer 100% bone stock. Welcome to beta tester land.
dandrumheller said:
If you sideloaded an update, you are no longer 100% bone stock. Welcome to beta tester land.
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It feels not like a beta. It's more like a big bug fix with much patches. For example my Wifi is now stable as hell and never reconnections anymore. Hope it keeps stable, but looks very very good. I think this beta will be the final release in few months, or weeks? But it's much better than 7.0. And better than LOS14.1, which is not so stable (on my other phone). And I have no app crashes anymore. Gboard was crashing with 7.0 one time and few other apps like firewall. So, 7.1.1 is pure stable as hell and must have :laugh:
Afaik, it's not beta. It's soak. So, if test users reported as stable, it will be pushed to all as the final build. If not, Moto has to fixed and not all users around the world will be affected.
Regular and recommend way of releasing update.
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Here you can see that it's not test-keys like a nightly from LOS. It's really release keys :laugh:
If you are on XT1635-03 with reteu frmware you will not receice any OTA. My experience told that you can't even sideload an update. So no worry about bricks.
Very often devices are hardbricked when you are downgrading bootloader but once I have hardbricked my Nexus 6 with OTA (sideloading it). Well, it was not full brick, but I can't load the system (only fastboot) and my bootloader was locked. Without system loaded you can't allow unlocking procedure so the first thing I do with new phone is unlocking.
allrightlite said:
Here you can see that it's not test-keys like a nightly from LOS. It's really release keys :laugh:
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I know the build is not a beta. I'm referring to the fact that once you leave the official upgrade path, taking any update is a scenario not tested by Moto. So you are testing for them. Maybe you win, maybe you brick.
It seems that the problem with "addison_retcn" may be fixed with editing build.prop but in this case systemless root is required (AFAIK there us no systemless root for Nougat)