Hey everyone, as always i like to buy my phones direct from the manufacture if possible. I do this to avoid all the trivial crap like locked bootloaders, bloat etc. Im looking to buy a G4 that is "clean" without the garbage but can also support LTE in USA. Which model should we shoot for? I bought my Galaxy S6 from Samsung (SM-G920i) which i love since its "clean". Im going to be using it on AT&T in the US btw. Thank you.
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Hey everyone, as always i like to buy my phones direct from the manufacture if possible. I do this to avoid all the trivial crap like locked bootloaders, bloat etc. Im looking to buy a G4 that is "clean" without the garbage but can also support LTE in USA. Which model should we shoot for? I bought my Galaxy S6 from Samsung (SM-G920i) which i love since its "clean". Im going to be using it on AT&T in the US btw. Thank you.
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Good question - I'd like to know the answer, too.
Me three? Anybody know?
Did anyone figure this out? Or at least which supports tmobile/att 3g/4g bands? Like if there is no unlocked version does the tmobile version have all att bands?
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Did anyone figure this out? Or at least which supports tmobile/att 3g/4g bands? Like if there is no unlocked version does the tmobile version have all att bands?
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Good question. I've read that with the G4 international versions, LTE won't work on US GSM carriers, even if the LTE band is available.
But I can't say I've seen a reasonable explanation why.
The one I got from PCMag in their contest was listed in the rules as LG G4 Global Version the model # is LG-H815.
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=7996&view=1&c=lg_g4_h815_lte-a_lg_p1 lists the frequencies and its a LOT.
For comparison here it is side by side with the T-mobile G3 my wife uses http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer&id1=6272&id2=7996&id3=8045&del_id=8045
I am using mine on T-Mobile with zero issue on 4g.
As for price and availability of this model, its anyone's guess. According to the rules on the contest I entered this phone was valued at $1000 and I had to give PCMag a W9 to claim my prize so they could report the device as income.
It came with very few pre-installed apps from LG.
If anyone has any questions, fire away!
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Hey everyone, as always i like to buy my phones direct from the manufacture if possible. I do this to avoid all the trivial crap like locked bootloaders, bloat etc. Im looking to buy a G4 that is "clean" without the garbage but can also support LTE in USA. Which model should we shoot for? I bought my Galaxy S6 from Samsung (SM-G920i) which i love since its "clean". Im going to be using it on AT&T in the US btw. Thank you.
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Depending on the area of the US you live the H815 will give you LTE on quite a few bands in the AT&T market. In my area OC, CA band 17 is used for LTE quite a bit and I have a Korean version of the G3 which has no issues getting LTE. I have ordered the H815 which should work fine for me, here is a list of the LTE bands it supports
LTE band 1(2100), 2(1900), 3(1800), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 17(700), 20(800), 28(700)
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Depending on the area of the US you live the H815 will give you LTE on quite a few bands in the AT&T market. In my area OC, CA band 17 is used for LTE quite a bit and I have a Korean version of the G3 which has no issues getting LTE. I have ordered the H815 which should work fine for me, here is a list of the LTE bands it supports
LTE band 1(2100), 2(1900), 3(1800), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 17(700), 20(800), 28(700)
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Where did you order it from? Looks like I'll want the 815 too
As stated from @alwayslearning my H815 from LG G4 TRIAL 4G LTE work on TMO. And no W9 requires xD and they claimed that it's cost $329 what a deal. Maybe that the Cost to LG USA MOBILE and retailed @ $1000.
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Where did you order it from? Looks like I'll want the 815 too
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I got it on Ebay http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-LG-G4-H...t=LH_DefaultDomain_0&var=&hash=item4196721570
$700.00 , it was cheaper than my wife's S6
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I got it on Ebay http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-LG-G4-H...t=LH_DefaultDomain_0&var=&hash=item4196721570
$700.00 , it was cheaper than my wife's S6
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From Singapore ...pre ordered? Ship on 5/30? Will arrive here a week later hopefully.
Edited...further reading they said they'll ship from US too by FEDEX.
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From Singapore ...pre ordered? Ship on 5/30? Will arrive here a week later hopefully.
Edited...further reading they said they'll ship from US too by FEDEX.
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I have bought from them before and the shipping time is normally 2 to 3 days FEDEX
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I have bought from them before and the shipping time is normally 2 to 3 days FEDEX
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Did you ordered a leather back cover color? Not a bad price for $700.
I already enjoying this phone so much absolutely no lagging UX 4.0 is awesome, the camera will blow your mind away. The Quantum HD screen really fantastic only require min. brightness when watching video at dark compare with my G3. Simply love this phone. Can't wait to get it root and get some wireless charging cover.
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Did you ordered a leather back cover color? Not a bad price for $700.
I already enjoying this phone so much absolutely no lagging UX 4.0 is awesome, the camera will blow your mind away. The Quantum HD screen really fantastic only require min. brightness when watching video at dark compare with my G3. Simply love this phone. Can't wait to get it root and get some wireless charging cover.
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Yes I ordered a Black leather cover and I am also getting a yellow and red cover. I have the G3 now, how does the screen compare to the G3 screen? I have read that it is not as bright. Do you get to keep the phone or do you have to return it?
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Yes I ordered a Black leather cover and I am also getting a yellow and red cover. I have the G3 now, how does the screen compare to the G3 screen? I have read that it is not as bright. Do you get to keep the phone or do you have to return it?
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This screen is better than G3 for me. Where did ordered those leather cover? And yes I got to keep this phone.
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This screen is better than G3 for me. Where did ordered those leather cover? And yes I got to keep this phone.
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ordered the covers from Ebay, just search LG G4 covers, they come from South Korea and take about a week to get here. I am hoping once the phones is released in US in the next two weeks BB would have them or the LG website and you might save on shipping
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This screen is better than G3 for me. Where did ordered those leather cover? And yes I got to keep this phone.
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I agree, my screen is better than my wifes G3 and my kids LG Stylo.
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I got it on Ebay http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-LG-G4-H...t=LH_DefaultDomain_0&var=&hash=item4196721570
$700.00 , it was cheaper than my wife's S6
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Hmm...this seems like a good deal since it includes the leather back and has world wide LTE bands. I preordered the dual sim version here in the Philippines but may cancel now and pick this one up instead. More LTE bands and slightly less expensive then my preorder. One perk ordering from LG here is it includes 32gb sd card, second battery and stand alone charger but I can always buy those separately. Most important are the multiple LTE bands since I travel to states twice a year.
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Hmm...this seems like a good deal since it includes the leather back and has world wide LTE bands. I preordered the dual sim version here in the Philippines but may cancel now and pick this one up instead. More LTE bands and slightly less expensive then my preorder. One perk ordering from LG here is it includes 32gb sd card, second battery and stand alone charger but I can always buy those separately. Most important are the multiple LTE bands since I travel to states twice a year.
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Yes....LG did it right this time. When I received the H815 I thought it's H+ data connection in US as expected for International version but LTE is working. So [emoji106] Lucky Goldstar.
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That is way I got the 815 so I could go to Europe and still have LTE at home and the phone is unlocked
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I went in to Best Buy and pre-ordered the Note 4 on a 2 year contract. Since it'll most likely be locked down to hell, I'm considering selling it the second I buy it and ordering the international version to buying the TMO version.
Will I have any issues?
I bought the international model from GSM nation with confirmation from them that it would work on att. Nope. It does not have the 700 band and does not get LTE. Sucks. I will be getting the att model this week. My model is SM-N910U. No dice.
Thanks to everyone using different spectrum for LTE, the euro/international models almost never have functional LTE in the States. You should get 21mb HSPA+ which depending on your market may get to 2 to 7mb down on GSM 3G.
i believe this model SM-N910F works with at&t band 17.
Ah man. I guess I should just get the t-mobile version off contract :/
Just cancel your pre-order with BB. That is what I did and then I called TMO and ordered with them.
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Just cancel your pre-order with BB. That is what I did and then I called TMO and ordered with them.
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I'm considering that. Even considering dropping ATT and getting the $50 TMO plan.
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I'm considering that. Even considering dropping ATT and getting the $50 TMO plan.
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I would if their coverage was better where I live. It is just not that good here
Yup, I feel you.
Luckily, T-Mobile is great in my area. Coverage is perfect. However, I travel to the middle of nowhere in PA often. Won't get reception there :/
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i believe this model SM-N910F works with at&t band 17.
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Anyone confirm if this works yet, thinking of picking this up, saw it for sale on Amazon for 899.
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Anyone confirm if this works yet, thinking of picking this up, saw it for sale on Amazon for 899.
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You're much better off getting the T-Mobile version. It's cheaper @ $750, readily available, and fully compatible. It even automatically adds the at&t apn when you put in the at&t SIM card.
I just ordered the AT&T model after having the international unlocked models of the S1, S2, S3, Note 1 and Note 2. All of them were only able to get HSPA+ for data, but they all worked fine otherwise. For that reason I have the AT&T model coming to experience LTE for the first time.
If I had known the T-Mobile version works on AT&T I would have gotten that since I am a fan of rooting. No dice for AT&T model yet, but I have high hopes someone will crack it soon.
My straight talk signal runs off AT&T....so i can use lte off the t-mobile device with no problems at all??
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I'm looking to buy a refurbished G3 and although I'm on a T-Mobile MVNO and prefer T-Mobile devices for their unlocked bootloaders, an ebay reseller I trust is offering the VS985 in as new condition for a price that is about $50 less than the best I can find for the D851.
The Verizon development scene seems pretty healthy and root/TWRP seem to be readily available. I will probably stay with KitKat and install either CloudyG3 1.2 or Skydragon KK.
Is there any reason to prefer an unlocked AT&T D850 over the Verizon VS985? I realize that with either device I will not have T-Mobile wifi calling or VoLTE but I rarely make calls so that is not a priority,. Are there other significant reasons to avoid the Verizon/AT&T G3 in preference to the T-Mobile D851 I'm overlooking?
Thanks
PS - Still interested in this intellectually but I ended up buying a D851 for a very good price off Swappa.
One reason might be the LTE bands supported by the VS985 variant. It may not support the necessary ones to get 4G LTE on T-Mobile's network.
How much did you end up getting the 851 for after all was said and done?
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One reason might be the LTE bands supported by the VS985 variant. It may not support the necessary ones to get 4G LTE on T-Mobile's network.
How much did you end up getting the 851 for after all was said and done?
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I have had both unlocked AT&T and Verizon phones in the New York City area and both of them got LTE everywhere it was available. I don't travel to remote areas (and if I did I probably wouldn't use TMO) so I don't miss the missing bands.
I paid $300 for a mint D851 on Swappa vs $275 for a mint VS985 from a reseller I trust on ebay. The average low price on the D851 seems to be about $325 or more on both Swappa and ebay, given that there are relatively few D851s for sale.
Now just this past week T-Mobile took the G3 off their website (they are still selling the G2 new at ~$350 or pre-owned at $230) so I would expect there to be a lot more D851s in good condition at better prices on ebay as TMO gets rid of their overstock once the G4 is available. Be interesting to see if it goes as low as $250 for a mint "refurb" in a few months.
Hi all,
Thinking about picking up the G4. I do some occasional travel to Europe for work, about once a quarter. As such, I am looking at the G4 variant that will work on both sides of the Atlantic. It looks like I can pick up the International H815 that should do just fine. But being here in the States, I'd probably have to special order one.
I took a look at the specs for the AT&T H810 variant, and it says that it has the LTE bands 1, 3, 7 for Roaming. Incidentally, the band I need for my carrier in Europe is band 3.
So my question is does included hardware support band 3? Would I be able to use my Europe SIM in the phone and connect to band 3? Or does the roaming imply I can only access band 3 with my USA SIM when I am roaming in Europe?
Any insight would be helpful! Thanks!
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Hi all,
Thinking about picking up the G4. I do some occasional travel to Europe for work, about once a quarter. As such, I am looking at the G4 variant that will work on both sides of the Atlantic. It looks like I can pick up the International H815 that should do just fine. But being here in the States, I'd probably have to special order one.
I took a look at the specs for the AT&T H810 variant, and it says that it has the LTE bands 1, 3, 7 for Roaming. Incidentally, the band I need for my carrier in Europe is band 3.
So my question is does included hardware support band 3? Would I be able to use my Europe SIM in the phone and connect to band 3? Or does the roaming imply I can only access band 3 with my USA SIM when I am roaming in Europe?
Any insight would be helpful! Thanks!
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I just ordered a brown leather 815 on eBay for 700. By the time you figure taxes and getting leather option and not having to deal with ATT sounded like a decent deal. I hope I can get the free goodies from Lg. Plus it should be here by the June 1st or so.
kwan888 said:
Hi all,
Thinking about picking up the G4. I do some occasional travel to Europe for work, about once a quarter. As such, I am looking at the G4 variant that will work on both sides of the Atlantic. It looks like I can pick up the International H815 that should do just fine. But being here in the States, I'd probably have to special order one.
I took a look at the specs for the AT&T H810 variant, and it says that it has the LTE bands 1, 3, 7 for Roaming. Incidentally, the band I need for my carrier in Europe is band 3.
So my question is does included hardware support band 3? Would I be able to use my Europe SIM in the phone and connect to band 3? Or does the roaming imply I can only access band 3 with my USA SIM when I am roaming in Europe?
Any insight would be helpful! Thanks!
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Provided AT&T allows you with Unlock code to use Europe SIM. I doubt.
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FWIW ATT actually gave me the unlock code within 2 days. Pretty fast.
Posted this in the TMobile release thread but hasn't gotten any responses (might be the wrong place for such a question). Someone on another place I frequent posted this and I'm wondering if it's something one should be concerned about or if the bands missing are pretty much useless and won't make a difference to me? If it will be an issue for me, I will return the phone and wait for the official AT&T one to be released.
Thanks!
It will work in tmobile, yes. But won't you be losing some bands cricket/att use? I use cricket too and was trying to get the international model for this reason. With the tmobile version your missing some of the 3g and LTE bands that att uses.
H810 AT&T
GSM 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
UMTS 850/1900/2100
LTE Bands 2, 4, 5, 17, 29, Roaming 1, 3, 7, and CA
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UMTS: Band I (2100), Band II (1900), Band IV (1700/2100)
LTE: Band: 2, 4, 7, 12, 17;
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It won't make a difference.
Thanks for asking this question as I am bout to do the same. Just want to be sure that I will be OK w the T-Mobile phone on AT&T. I live in NY and will be using the phone mostly in the USA. If anyone has done this, your feedback would be appreciated!
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Posted this in the TMobile release thread but hasn't gotten any responses (might be the wrong place for such a question). Someone on another place I frequent posted this and I'm wondering if it's something one should be concerned about or if the bands missing are pretty much useless and won't make a difference to me? If it will be an issue for me, I will return the phone and wait for the official AT&T one to be released.
Thanks!
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There is no release thread for this phone by carrier yet?...
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Posted this in the TMobile release thread but hasn't gotten any responses (might be the wrong place for such a question). Someone on another place I frequent posted this and I'm wondering if it's something one should be concerned about or if the bands missing are pretty much useless and won't make a difference to me? If it will be an issue for me, I will return the phone and wait for the official AT&T one to be released.
Thanks!
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Looking at your list, if you use a T-Mobile G4 on AT&T you will not get LTE bands 5 or 29, or GSM 850/900/1800.
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There is no release thread for this phone by carrier yet?...
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It's in the general sub-forum. Here is the thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/general/t-mobile-version-available-t3119636
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Looking at your list, if you use a T-Mobile G4 on AT&T you will not get LTE bands 5 or 29, or GSM 850/900/1800.
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I know but my question is will this degrade performance or affect my ability to use data and voice, etc.? I don't understand anything about bands.
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I know, but my question is will this degrade performance or affect my ability to use data and voice, etc.? I don't understand anything about bands.
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AT&T uses bands 2/4/5/17/29/30 for LTE and 850/1900 for GSM. If you use a T-Mobile G4 on AT&T, going by your first post, you will not get LTE bands 5 or 29 or 850 for GSM.
This means is you will not be able to take advantage of AT&T's 850MHz LTE or 700MHz lower D/E LTE spectrum, or 850MHz GSM. AT&T's main bands are 5 and 17, so in some areas you will get reduced LTE performance, especially indoors and when far from the tower. You may run into markets that you only get 2G/3G in as well if they are using only bands 5 and/or 29.
In short, it will work, but it's not ideal.
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AT&T uses bands 2/4/5/17/29/30 for LTE and 850/1900 for GSM. If you use a T-Mobile G4 on AT&T, going by your first post, you will not get LTE bands 5 or 29 or 850 for GSM.
This means is you will not be able to take advantage of AT&T's 850MHz LTE or 700MHz lower D/E LTE spectrum, or 850MHz GSM. AT&T's main bands are 5 and 17, so in some areas you will get reduced LTE performance, especially indoors and when far from the tower. You may run into markets that you only get 2G/3G in as well if they are using only bands 5 and/or 29.
In short, it will work, but it's not ideal.
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The B/I/U text is the answer I was looking for. I appreciate it.
I'm going to rock it for a few days until the AT&T phone comes out and return the T-Mobile one since I have 14 days to do so.
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The B/I/U text is the answer I was looking for. I appreciate it.
I'm going to rock it for a few days until the AT&T phone comes out and return the T-Mobile one since I have 14 days to do so.
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Depending on your market, you may be perfectly fine, since you have the T-Mobile version I'd wait and see how happy you are with the service. The AT&T G4 costs a lot more.
Well, it just came. So I'll test it out with my Cricket SIM and see how it goes. But I'm leaning towards swapping it out.
Update, probably last one.
1) Put my Cricket SIM into the new LG G4.
2) Got a message saying phone was locked to network. Call support to get it unlocked.
3) Called support and they said because I don't have a T-Mobile account, they cannot unlock it. I'd need to go through a 3rd party to do that. BUT, if I do that, I can no longer return the phone.
I'm not going to bother with 3rd Parties and will just get an AT&T phone which will allow me to use my Cricket SIM without issue, plus have all of the missing bands. So, I am starting the return process on my T-Mobile LG G4, unless someone wants to buy it from me?
thanks for reporting all this. I'm on att but am out of contract, deciding if i upgrade to the att g4 or switch to tmo and upgrade there.
still not decided but I'm definitely not going to run the tmo on att, because my signal at home is 1 bar of lte if I'm lucky. the only hold back is obviously the bootloader. I've never had a stock phone for more than a day, eeesh.
VR32 said:
thanks for reporting all this. I'm on att but am out of contract, deciding if i upgrade to the att g4 or switch to tmo and upgrade there.
still not decided but I'm definitely not going to run the tmo on att, because my signal at home is 1 bar of lte if I'm lucky. the only hold back is obviously the bootloader. I've never had a stock phone for more than a day, eeesh.
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No problem. That's why we're all here.
Same here. Now that I'm going to be waiting till June 5th for the G4 (AT&T release date), I'm hoping some progress is made in the next week for unlocking the bootloader. Must have root (for XPosed and a bunch of other apps).
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No problem. That's why we're all here.
Same here. Now that I'm going to be waiting till June 5th for the G4 (AT&T release date), I'm hoping some progress is made in the next week for unlocking the bootloader. Must have root (for XPosed and a bunch of other apps).
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I did the att preorder last week. I'm kind of hoping since I'll get it later that there will be root and stuff by the time I get it too lol.
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I did the att preorder last week. I'm kind of hoping since I'll get it later that there will be root and stuff by the time I get it too lol.
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Lol good luck with root in one week before phones are officially released.
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Lol good luck with root in one week before phones are officially released.
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It comes out on June 13 at best buy. Over a week after att stores. So that's a week after it releases. Not before
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It comes out on June 13 at best buy. Over a week after att stores. So that's a week after it releases. Not before
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I spoke to the guy at my local AT&T store who said they aren't doing an official pre-order but that he'll put me on the list to reserve one and I'll come get it when it arrives.
Man, I'm so indecisive lol. This is by far the 'craziest' a phone has gotten me since smart phones were invented.
I scrapped my plan of getting an AT&T H810 (which would work perfectly with my Cricket SIM) and decided to spend a tad bit more ($60 or so) and get a fully unlocked H815 model that has all the AT&T bands + others. Ordered it on EBay, should be here by the 4th which is actually a day earlier than the AT&T release (which is June 5th).
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Man, I'm so indecisive lol. This is by far the 'craziest' a phone has gotten me since smart phones were invented.
I scrapped my plan of getting an AT&T H810 (which would work perfectly with my Cricket SIM) and decided to spend a tad bit more ($60 or so) and get a fully unlocked H815 model that has all the AT&T bands + others. Ordered it on EBay, should be here by the 4th which is actually a day earlier than the AT&T release (which is June 5th).
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Are you still eligible for the free battery and such from lg?
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Are you still eligible for the free battery and such from lg?
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Not sure. I'll try the links for the promo's when I get the device...and find out.
So I want to buy this phone straight out. AT&T is charging more than other carriers, should I just buy the T-Mobile version? Do I have any other options for where to buy or which model to buy?
The T-Mobile version will be locked to T-Mobile, and AFAIK, unless you have a T-Mobile account, they won't unlock it for you.
Plus, it looks like the the T-Mobile phone lacks at least two LTE bands that AT&T runs (and vice versa).
I am in the same boat, and for now I see the choice as between buying the AT&T phone (leather) through BestBuy and collecting their $100 gift card for the final cost of $669-100=569, or buying the unlocked international version at ebay (currently $605) or amazon ($655), which has all the advantages of not being a carrier version, but also lacks one of AT&T's bands (30). Plus, there are risks associated with buying a $600+ phone from companies you don't know.
Quite a few people from here have ordered their phones from ebay, so I'm hoping they have a good experience, so I can jump on the bandwagon.
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The T-Mobile version will be locked to T-Mobile, and AFAIK, unless you have a T-Mobile account, they won't unlock it for you.
Plus, it looks like the the T-Mobile phone lacks at least two LTE bands that AT&T runs (and vice versa).
I am in the same boat, and for now I see the choice as between buying the AT&T phone (leather) through BestBuy and collecting their $100 gift card for the final cost of $669-100=569, or buying the unlocked international version at ebay (currently $605) or amazon ($655), which has all the advantages of not being a carrier version, but also lacks one of AT&T's bands (30). Plus, there are risks associated with buying a $600+ phone from companies you don't know.
Quite a few people from here have ordered their phones from ebay, so I'm hoping they have a good experience, so I can jump on the bandwagon.
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Good to know I'm not in this boat alone lol. How much do you know about the band its lacking and how that may affect signal?
I wanted T-Mobile for that brown leather.... But it makes sense that you'd need an account lol.
I just looked at specs for the two models:
AT&T Model H810, bands 2,4,5,7,17,30.
T-Mobile Model 811, bands 2,4,5,7,12
International Model H815, bands 1,2,3,4,5,7,8,17,20,28
So, the TMO model lacks AT&T's bands 17&30, and the International one only lacks 30. I really have no idea how wide-spread those bands are, and how much we would lose by not having them.
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I just looked at specs for the two models:
AT&T Model H810, bands 2,4,5,7,17,30.
T-Mobile Model 811, bands 2,4,5,7,12
International Model H815, bands 1,2,3,4,5,7,8,17,20,28
So, the TMO model lacks AT&T's bands 17&30, and the International one only lacks 30. I really have no idea how wide-spread those bands are, and how much we would lose by not having them.
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Appreciate you looking that up. That's some good info. I was gonna research when I got a chance later tonight lol. I did read earlier that if you get the tablet from ATT you can get an LG tablet with 2 yr contract for $0.99... That's kinda cool? I don't have a tablet so it'd be neat to have one haha.
HaVoK C89 said:
Appreciate you looking that up. That's some good info. I was gonna research when I got a chance later tonight lol. I did read earlier that if you get the tablet from ATT you can get an LG tablet with 2 yr contract for $0.99... That's kinda cool? I don't have a tablet so it'd be neat to have one haha.
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The small print on that tablet is that you have to put it on that 2 yr contract for $10/mo.
I don't need an LTE-enabled tablet bad enough to pay $240.99 for it. It might be a good tablet, but I doubt it's that good.
Plus, I am going to pay full price for the phone mostly to be free. Why would I tie myself to a contract for a tablet?
I'm in the same boat, sort of. I'd like to avoid a carrier version and was set on the International but now don't know how that one missing band will affect service.
Question though, if I have a carrier model and get it unlocked to use with another carrier, I'm guessing I'm still stuck with the previous carrier's bloat and start up screen, correct?
Makster said:
The small print on that tablet is that you have to put it on that 2 yr contract for $10/mo.
I don't need an LTE-enabled tablet bad enough to pay $240.99 for it. It might be a good tablet, but I doubt it's that good.
Plus, I am going to pay full price for the phone mostly to be free. Why would I tie myself to a contract for a tablet?
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Haha you make a good point!
Well I can't be 100% sure on the info I'm reading.... But it looks like Band 30 is either a 3g band or a lower mhz LTE band. I can't find much, or I may not be using the right "key words".
Sammae7 said:
Question though, if I have a carrier model and get it unlocked to use with another carrier, I'm guessing I'm still stuck with the previous carrier's bloat and start up screen, correct?
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Yep.
Unless you root and debloat it, but that very ability is more likely to come to non-carrier versions, which are not bloated in the first place.
Sammae7 said:
I'm in the same boat, sort of. I'd like to avoid a carrier version and was set on the International but now don't know how that one missing band will affect service.
Question though, if I have a carrier model and get it unlocked to use with another carrier, I'm guessing I'm still stuck with the previous carrier's bloat and start up screen, correct?
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Correct on that. At least till you root/ROM it!
I think I'll stay away from rooting and romming for a bit. I bricked my three month old LG G3 romming it and had to rebuy a new one last month. So when I get the G4, I'll have two G3's which look brand new but one is a paperweight.
Sammae7 said:
I think I'll stay away from rooting and romming for a bit. I bricked my three month old LG G3 romming it and had to rebuy a new one last month. So when I get the G4, I'll have two G3's which look brand new but one is a paperweight.
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Lol I understand. That's a pretty cool looking paperweight! But yea, international versions don't come with much bloat at all.
That's my main attraction to it. I'm picky about my phones and hate branding and bloat. Looks like the International model lacks bands with both my current carrier (AT&T) and the carrier I may be jumping to (Verizon).
Now I'm stuck between two rocks and a hard place. I can either chance it with the International, go for the AT&T model knowing I may be dropping them in a few months, or just wait it out until I switch carriers.
HaVoK C89 said:
So I want to buy this phone straight out. AT&T is charging more than other carriers, should I just buy the T-Mobile version? Do I have any other options for where to buy or which model to buy?
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I just looked at specs for the two models:
AT&T Model H810, bands 2,4,5,7,17,30.
T-Mobile Model 811, bands 2,4,5,7,12
International Model H815, bands 1,2,3,4,5,7,8,17,20,28
So, the TMO model lacks AT&T's bands 17&30, and the International one only lacks 30. I really have no idea how wide-spread those bands are, and how much we would lose by not having them.
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LTE band 30 is upcoming, and not yet deployed. Chances are good that unless you live in the downtown area of a major city you probably will be moved onto the next device by the time you need band 30. Also, band 17 is AT&T's primary LTE band, so you probably don't want to get a device for AT&T without band 17. Stick with the AT&T version or the international. You can probably find the brown leather backplate by itself without buying a T-Mobile G4 that's missing the most important LTE band.
http://www.rvmobileinternet.com/atts-summer-lte-expansions-plans-2-3-ghz-wcs-lte-band-30-is-coming/
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LTE band 30 is upcoming, and not yet deployed. Chances are good that unless you live in the downtown area of a major city you probably will be moved onto the next device by the time you need band 30. Also, band 17 is AT&T's primary LTE band, so you probably don't want to get a device for AT&T without band 17. Stick with the AT&T version or the international. You can probably find the brown leather backplate by itself without buying a T-Mobile G4 that's missing the most important LTE band.
http://www.rvmobileinternet.com/atts-summer-lte-expansions-plans-2-3-ghz-wcs-lte-band-30-is-coming/
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Awesome info! Thank you do much! Band 30 sounds like the real deal when it comes to speed lol. Might be worth it to stick with a more expensive ATT model... I love me some fast Internetz...
HaVoK C89 said:
Awesome info! Thank you do much! Band 30 sounds like the real deal when it comes to speed lol. Might be worth it to stick with a more expensive ATT model... I love me some fast Internetz...
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If you happen to be in an area that gets band 30, you should have incredible speeds until more devices are released that support it. It's just part of the consideration. I figure my speeds are fast enough for now, and it could be a year or more before band 30 is even up in my home area. I'm on AT&T and have the international version. I'd rather have the guaranteed unlocked/rooted international version than pay a lot more for the AT&T variant which might be locked for months. Whatever you do, just don't get the T-Mobile. Other than that, you can't really go wrong.
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That's my main attraction to it. I'm picky about my phones and hate branding and bloat. Looks like the International model lacks bands with both my current carrier (AT&T) and the carrier I may be jumping to (Verizon).
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Actually, if you are planning on going to Verizon, you don't really have a choice: You need to get the Verizon version.
Both AT&T and international G4's are GSM-only phones and will not work with Verizon.