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After years of having Samsung phones I could take no more. They are now awful. Locking down their phones and TW is so bad. I just ordered my new HTC M8 developer edition for AT&T. I can't wait. A bit pricey, but no-contract/unlocked phones are the way to go. After years of rooting my Samsung phones, I actually have no desire to root my new M8; however, its nice to know that my bootloader is unlocked if I decide to go that route.
So - anyone of you using the developer edition on AT&T in the states? How is it? Does it require the input of AT&T's APN for LTE. Is LTE reception good?
Would love to hear more from those who recently abandoned Samsung.
MattMJB0188 said:
After years of having Samsung phones I could take no more. They are now awful. Locking down their phones and TW is so bad. I just ordered my new HTC M8 developer edition for AT&T. I can't wait. A bit pricey, but no-contract/unlocked phones are the way to go. After years of rooting my Samsung phones, I actually have no desire to root my new M8; however, its nice to know that my bootloader is unlocked if I decide to go that route.
So - anyone of you using the developer edition on AT&T in the states? How is it? Does it require the input of AT&T's APN for LTE. Is LTE reception good?
Would love to hear more from those who recently abandoned Samsung.
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Hi I'm using the unlocked version (it has the same radios as the developer editions). I am on Cricket (AT&T's pre pay service) and LTE is fantastic. Works out of the box as advertised.
I am in the San Diego area...
Hope this helps.
wowmail said:
Hi I'm using the unlocked version (it has the same radios as the developer editions). I am on Cricket (AT&T's pre pay service) and LTE is fantastic. Works out of the box as advertised.
I am in the San Diego area...
Hope this helps.
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Thanks. Cricket is GSM based now? So your using band 17 for LTE?
Yes the New Cricket is all GSM, and uses all the AT&T towers for LTE, 3G and under. It is like getting AT&T without a contract, and for a lot less. I got my nano simm online from their web site, you avoid a 25$ activation fee a store will charge.
I went in to Best Buy and pre-ordered the Note 4 on a 2 year contract. Since it'll most likely be locked down to hell, I'm considering selling it the second I buy it and ordering the international version to buying the TMO version.
Will I have any issues?
I bought the international model from GSM nation with confirmation from them that it would work on att. Nope. It does not have the 700 band and does not get LTE. Sucks. I will be getting the att model this week. My model is SM-N910U. No dice.
Thanks to everyone using different spectrum for LTE, the euro/international models almost never have functional LTE in the States. You should get 21mb HSPA+ which depending on your market may get to 2 to 7mb down on GSM 3G.
i believe this model SM-N910F works with at&t band 17.
Ah man. I guess I should just get the t-mobile version off contract :/
Just cancel your pre-order with BB. That is what I did and then I called TMO and ordered with them.
amtrucker22 said:
Just cancel your pre-order with BB. That is what I did and then I called TMO and ordered with them.
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I'm considering that. Even considering dropping ATT and getting the $50 TMO plan.
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I'm considering that. Even considering dropping ATT and getting the $50 TMO plan.
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I would if their coverage was better where I live. It is just not that good here
Yup, I feel you.
Luckily, T-Mobile is great in my area. Coverage is perfect. However, I travel to the middle of nowhere in PA often. Won't get reception there :/
daraj said:
i believe this model SM-N910F works with at&t band 17.
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Anyone confirm if this works yet, thinking of picking this up, saw it for sale on Amazon for 899.
rohankb said:
Anyone confirm if this works yet, thinking of picking this up, saw it for sale on Amazon for 899.
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You're much better off getting the T-Mobile version. It's cheaper @ $750, readily available, and fully compatible. It even automatically adds the at&t apn when you put in the at&t SIM card.
I just ordered the AT&T model after having the international unlocked models of the S1, S2, S3, Note 1 and Note 2. All of them were only able to get HSPA+ for data, but they all worked fine otherwise. For that reason I have the AT&T model coming to experience LTE for the first time.
If I had known the T-Mobile version works on AT&T I would have gotten that since I am a fan of rooting. No dice for AT&T model yet, but I have high hopes someone will crack it soon.
My straight talk signal runs off AT&T....so i can use lte off the t-mobile device with no problems at all??
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Hey everyone, as always i like to buy my phones direct from the manufacture if possible. I do this to avoid all the trivial crap like locked bootloaders, bloat etc. Im looking to buy a G4 that is "clean" without the garbage but can also support LTE in USA. Which model should we shoot for? I bought my Galaxy S6 from Samsung (SM-G920i) which i love since its "clean". Im going to be using it on AT&T in the US btw. Thank you.
serialtoon said:
Hey everyone, as always i like to buy my phones direct from the manufacture if possible. I do this to avoid all the trivial crap like locked bootloaders, bloat etc. Im looking to buy a G4 that is "clean" without the garbage but can also support LTE in USA. Which model should we shoot for? I bought my Galaxy S6 from Samsung (SM-G920i) which i love since its "clean". Im going to be using it on AT&T in the US btw. Thank you.
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Good question - I'd like to know the answer, too.
Me three? Anybody know?
Did anyone figure this out? Or at least which supports tmobile/att 3g/4g bands? Like if there is no unlocked version does the tmobile version have all att bands?
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Did anyone figure this out? Or at least which supports tmobile/att 3g/4g bands? Like if there is no unlocked version does the tmobile version have all att bands?
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Good question. I've read that with the G4 international versions, LTE won't work on US GSM carriers, even if the LTE band is available.
But I can't say I've seen a reasonable explanation why.
The one I got from PCMag in their contest was listed in the rules as LG G4 Global Version the model # is LG-H815.
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=7996&view=1&c=lg_g4_h815_lte-a_lg_p1 lists the frequencies and its a LOT.
For comparison here it is side by side with the T-mobile G3 my wife uses http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer&id1=6272&id2=7996&id3=8045&del_id=8045
I am using mine on T-Mobile with zero issue on 4g.
As for price and availability of this model, its anyone's guess. According to the rules on the contest I entered this phone was valued at $1000 and I had to give PCMag a W9 to claim my prize so they could report the device as income.
It came with very few pre-installed apps from LG.
If anyone has any questions, fire away!
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Hey everyone, as always i like to buy my phones direct from the manufacture if possible. I do this to avoid all the trivial crap like locked bootloaders, bloat etc. Im looking to buy a G4 that is "clean" without the garbage but can also support LTE in USA. Which model should we shoot for? I bought my Galaxy S6 from Samsung (SM-G920i) which i love since its "clean". Im going to be using it on AT&T in the US btw. Thank you.
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Depending on the area of the US you live the H815 will give you LTE on quite a few bands in the AT&T market. In my area OC, CA band 17 is used for LTE quite a bit and I have a Korean version of the G3 which has no issues getting LTE. I have ordered the H815 which should work fine for me, here is a list of the LTE bands it supports
LTE band 1(2100), 2(1900), 3(1800), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 17(700), 20(800), 28(700)
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Depending on the area of the US you live the H815 will give you LTE on quite a few bands in the AT&T market. In my area OC, CA band 17 is used for LTE quite a bit and I have a Korean version of the G3 which has no issues getting LTE. I have ordered the H815 which should work fine for me, here is a list of the LTE bands it supports
LTE band 1(2100), 2(1900), 3(1800), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 17(700), 20(800), 28(700)
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Where did you order it from? Looks like I'll want the 815 too
As stated from @alwayslearning my H815 from LG G4 TRIAL 4G LTE work on TMO. And no W9 requires xD and they claimed that it's cost $329 what a deal. Maybe that the Cost to LG USA MOBILE and retailed @ $1000.
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frigidazzi said:
Where did you order it from? Looks like I'll want the 815 too
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I got it on Ebay http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-LG-G4-H...t=LH_DefaultDomain_0&var=&hash=item4196721570
$700.00 , it was cheaper than my wife's S6
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I got it on Ebay http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-LG-G4-H...t=LH_DefaultDomain_0&var=&hash=item4196721570
$700.00 , it was cheaper than my wife's S6
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From Singapore ...pre ordered? Ship on 5/30? Will arrive here a week later hopefully.
Edited...further reading they said they'll ship from US too by FEDEX.
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rogconnect said:
From Singapore ...pre ordered? Ship on 5/30? Will arrive here a week later hopefully.
Edited...further reading they said they'll ship from US too by FEDEX.
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I have bought from them before and the shipping time is normally 2 to 3 days FEDEX
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I have bought from them before and the shipping time is normally 2 to 3 days FEDEX
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Did you ordered a leather back cover color? Not a bad price for $700.
I already enjoying this phone so much absolutely no lagging UX 4.0 is awesome, the camera will blow your mind away. The Quantum HD screen really fantastic only require min. brightness when watching video at dark compare with my G3. Simply love this phone. Can't wait to get it root and get some wireless charging cover.
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rogconnect said:
Did you ordered a leather back cover color? Not a bad price for $700.
I already enjoying this phone so much absolutely no lagging UX 4.0 is awesome, the camera will blow your mind away. The Quantum HD screen really fantastic only require min. brightness when watching video at dark compare with my G3. Simply love this phone. Can't wait to get it root and get some wireless charging cover.
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Yes I ordered a Black leather cover and I am also getting a yellow and red cover. I have the G3 now, how does the screen compare to the G3 screen? I have read that it is not as bright. Do you get to keep the phone or do you have to return it?
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Yes I ordered a Black leather cover and I am also getting a yellow and red cover. I have the G3 now, how does the screen compare to the G3 screen? I have read that it is not as bright. Do you get to keep the phone or do you have to return it?
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This screen is better than G3 for me. Where did ordered those leather cover? And yes I got to keep this phone.
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rogconnect said:
This screen is better than G3 for me. Where did ordered those leather cover? And yes I got to keep this phone.
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ordered the covers from Ebay, just search LG G4 covers, they come from South Korea and take about a week to get here. I am hoping once the phones is released in US in the next two weeks BB would have them or the LG website and you might save on shipping
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This screen is better than G3 for me. Where did ordered those leather cover? And yes I got to keep this phone.
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I agree, my screen is better than my wifes G3 and my kids LG Stylo.
alwayslearning said:
I got it on Ebay http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-LG-G4-H...t=LH_DefaultDomain_0&var=&hash=item4196721570
$700.00 , it was cheaper than my wife's S6
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Hmm...this seems like a good deal since it includes the leather back and has world wide LTE bands. I preordered the dual sim version here in the Philippines but may cancel now and pick this one up instead. More LTE bands and slightly less expensive then my preorder. One perk ordering from LG here is it includes 32gb sd card, second battery and stand alone charger but I can always buy those separately. Most important are the multiple LTE bands since I travel to states twice a year.
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Hmm...this seems like a good deal since it includes the leather back and has world wide LTE bands. I preordered the dual sim version here in the Philippines but may cancel now and pick this one up instead. More LTE bands and slightly less expensive then my preorder. One perk ordering from LG here is it includes 32gb sd card, second battery and stand alone charger but I can always buy those separately. Most important are the multiple LTE bands since I travel to states twice a year.
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Yes....LG did it right this time. When I received the H815 I thought it's H+ data connection in US as expected for International version but LTE is working. So [emoji106] Lucky Goldstar.
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That is way I got the 815 so I could go to Europe and still have LTE at home and the phone is unlocked
So I want to buy this phone straight out. AT&T is charging more than other carriers, should I just buy the T-Mobile version? Do I have any other options for where to buy or which model to buy?
The T-Mobile version will be locked to T-Mobile, and AFAIK, unless you have a T-Mobile account, they won't unlock it for you.
Plus, it looks like the the T-Mobile phone lacks at least two LTE bands that AT&T runs (and vice versa).
I am in the same boat, and for now I see the choice as between buying the AT&T phone (leather) through BestBuy and collecting their $100 gift card for the final cost of $669-100=569, or buying the unlocked international version at ebay (currently $605) or amazon ($655), which has all the advantages of not being a carrier version, but also lacks one of AT&T's bands (30). Plus, there are risks associated with buying a $600+ phone from companies you don't know.
Quite a few people from here have ordered their phones from ebay, so I'm hoping they have a good experience, so I can jump on the bandwagon.
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The T-Mobile version will be locked to T-Mobile, and AFAIK, unless you have a T-Mobile account, they won't unlock it for you.
Plus, it looks like the the T-Mobile phone lacks at least two LTE bands that AT&T runs (and vice versa).
I am in the same boat, and for now I see the choice as between buying the AT&T phone (leather) through BestBuy and collecting their $100 gift card for the final cost of $669-100=569, or buying the unlocked international version at ebay (currently $605) or amazon ($655), which has all the advantages of not being a carrier version, but also lacks one of AT&T's bands (30). Plus, there are risks associated with buying a $600+ phone from companies you don't know.
Quite a few people from here have ordered their phones from ebay, so I'm hoping they have a good experience, so I can jump on the bandwagon.
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Good to know I'm not in this boat alone lol. How much do you know about the band its lacking and how that may affect signal?
I wanted T-Mobile for that brown leather.... But it makes sense that you'd need an account lol.
I just looked at specs for the two models:
AT&T Model H810, bands 2,4,5,7,17,30.
T-Mobile Model 811, bands 2,4,5,7,12
International Model H815, bands 1,2,3,4,5,7,8,17,20,28
So, the TMO model lacks AT&T's bands 17&30, and the International one only lacks 30. I really have no idea how wide-spread those bands are, and how much we would lose by not having them.
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I just looked at specs for the two models:
AT&T Model H810, bands 2,4,5,7,17,30.
T-Mobile Model 811, bands 2,4,5,7,12
International Model H815, bands 1,2,3,4,5,7,8,17,20,28
So, the TMO model lacks AT&T's bands 17&30, and the International one only lacks 30. I really have no idea how wide-spread those bands are, and how much we would lose by not having them.
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Appreciate you looking that up. That's some good info. I was gonna research when I got a chance later tonight lol. I did read earlier that if you get the tablet from ATT you can get an LG tablet with 2 yr contract for $0.99... That's kinda cool? I don't have a tablet so it'd be neat to have one haha.
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Appreciate you looking that up. That's some good info. I was gonna research when I got a chance later tonight lol. I did read earlier that if you get the tablet from ATT you can get an LG tablet with 2 yr contract for $0.99... That's kinda cool? I don't have a tablet so it'd be neat to have one haha.
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The small print on that tablet is that you have to put it on that 2 yr contract for $10/mo.
I don't need an LTE-enabled tablet bad enough to pay $240.99 for it. It might be a good tablet, but I doubt it's that good.
Plus, I am going to pay full price for the phone mostly to be free. Why would I tie myself to a contract for a tablet?
I'm in the same boat, sort of. I'd like to avoid a carrier version and was set on the International but now don't know how that one missing band will affect service.
Question though, if I have a carrier model and get it unlocked to use with another carrier, I'm guessing I'm still stuck with the previous carrier's bloat and start up screen, correct?
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The small print on that tablet is that you have to put it on that 2 yr contract for $10/mo.
I don't need an LTE-enabled tablet bad enough to pay $240.99 for it. It might be a good tablet, but I doubt it's that good.
Plus, I am going to pay full price for the phone mostly to be free. Why would I tie myself to a contract for a tablet?
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Haha you make a good point!
Well I can't be 100% sure on the info I'm reading.... But it looks like Band 30 is either a 3g band or a lower mhz LTE band. I can't find much, or I may not be using the right "key words".
Sammae7 said:
Question though, if I have a carrier model and get it unlocked to use with another carrier, I'm guessing I'm still stuck with the previous carrier's bloat and start up screen, correct?
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Yep.
Unless you root and debloat it, but that very ability is more likely to come to non-carrier versions, which are not bloated in the first place.
Sammae7 said:
I'm in the same boat, sort of. I'd like to avoid a carrier version and was set on the International but now don't know how that one missing band will affect service.
Question though, if I have a carrier model and get it unlocked to use with another carrier, I'm guessing I'm still stuck with the previous carrier's bloat and start up screen, correct?
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Correct on that. At least till you root/ROM it!
I think I'll stay away from rooting and romming for a bit. I bricked my three month old LG G3 romming it and had to rebuy a new one last month. So when I get the G4, I'll have two G3's which look brand new but one is a paperweight.
Sammae7 said:
I think I'll stay away from rooting and romming for a bit. I bricked my three month old LG G3 romming it and had to rebuy a new one last month. So when I get the G4, I'll have two G3's which look brand new but one is a paperweight.
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Lol I understand. That's a pretty cool looking paperweight! But yea, international versions don't come with much bloat at all.
That's my main attraction to it. I'm picky about my phones and hate branding and bloat. Looks like the International model lacks bands with both my current carrier (AT&T) and the carrier I may be jumping to (Verizon).
Now I'm stuck between two rocks and a hard place. I can either chance it with the International, go for the AT&T model knowing I may be dropping them in a few months, or just wait it out until I switch carriers.
HaVoK C89 said:
So I want to buy this phone straight out. AT&T is charging more than other carriers, should I just buy the T-Mobile version? Do I have any other options for where to buy or which model to buy?
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I just looked at specs for the two models:
AT&T Model H810, bands 2,4,5,7,17,30.
T-Mobile Model 811, bands 2,4,5,7,12
International Model H815, bands 1,2,3,4,5,7,8,17,20,28
So, the TMO model lacks AT&T's bands 17&30, and the International one only lacks 30. I really have no idea how wide-spread those bands are, and how much we would lose by not having them.
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LTE band 30 is upcoming, and not yet deployed. Chances are good that unless you live in the downtown area of a major city you probably will be moved onto the next device by the time you need band 30. Also, band 17 is AT&T's primary LTE band, so you probably don't want to get a device for AT&T without band 17. Stick with the AT&T version or the international. You can probably find the brown leather backplate by itself without buying a T-Mobile G4 that's missing the most important LTE band.
http://www.rvmobileinternet.com/atts-summer-lte-expansions-plans-2-3-ghz-wcs-lte-band-30-is-coming/
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LTE band 30 is upcoming, and not yet deployed. Chances are good that unless you live in the downtown area of a major city you probably will be moved onto the next device by the time you need band 30. Also, band 17 is AT&T's primary LTE band, so you probably don't want to get a device for AT&T without band 17. Stick with the AT&T version or the international. You can probably find the brown leather backplate by itself without buying a T-Mobile G4 that's missing the most important LTE band.
http://www.rvmobileinternet.com/atts-summer-lte-expansions-plans-2-3-ghz-wcs-lte-band-30-is-coming/
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Awesome info! Thank you do much! Band 30 sounds like the real deal when it comes to speed lol. Might be worth it to stick with a more expensive ATT model... I love me some fast Internetz...
HaVoK C89 said:
Awesome info! Thank you do much! Band 30 sounds like the real deal when it comes to speed lol. Might be worth it to stick with a more expensive ATT model... I love me some fast Internetz...
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If you happen to be in an area that gets band 30, you should have incredible speeds until more devices are released that support it. It's just part of the consideration. I figure my speeds are fast enough for now, and it could be a year or more before band 30 is even up in my home area. I'm on AT&T and have the international version. I'd rather have the guaranteed unlocked/rooted international version than pay a lot more for the AT&T variant which might be locked for months. Whatever you do, just don't get the T-Mobile. Other than that, you can't really go wrong.
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That's my main attraction to it. I'm picky about my phones and hate branding and bloat. Looks like the International model lacks bands with both my current carrier (AT&T) and the carrier I may be jumping to (Verizon).
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Actually, if you are planning on going to Verizon, you don't really have a choice: You need to get the Verizon version.
Both AT&T and international G4's are GSM-only phones and will not work with Verizon.
there seems to be three versions that are the most accessible in my price range, sprint, tmobile and unlocked variants. on paper, it seems like the unlocked variant actually has the least amount of att bands but i just wanted to know overall which variant would be the best for att service