I would like to root my tablet that I just picked up today and most likely keep a stock rom that comes with it and just add root to block ads and a few other minor changes to it.
If I do that I know Knox will be tripped as there is not a way to root and not trip Knox.
What features or functions might I loose or should I have any concern about tripping knox on this device?
I know with the S5 if causes the private mode not to work but I am not really concerned with that.
And on the S6 that will most likely cause Samsung Pay not to work.
Would there be any features that stop working after Knox is tripped and device is rooted?
If you don't mind using kingroot you can root without tripping Knox - unless you install xposed or custom recovery. Look for my thread on no tether root in general section.
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I'm thinking of upgrading from my GS3, non lte, to the Note 3. As I've looked around the forms here, it would seem as though Knox is an added security measure so t-mobile can more easily detect root?
Is there a way to have root without tripping this counter? Is there a way to flash a custom Rom or kernel without tripping it?
If this has been answered apologize, I did look around before making new thread.
Thanks!
Also on a side note, white or black note 3?
t3tr1s_ said:
I'm thinking of upgrading from my GS3, non lte, to the Note 3. As I've looked around the forms here, it would seem as though Knox is an added security measure so t-mobile can more easily detect root?
Is there a way to have root without tripping this counter? Is there a way to flash a custom Rom or kernel without tripping it?
If this has been answered apologize, I did look around before making new thread.
Thanks!
Also on a side note, white or black note 3?
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Knox isn't really for T-mobile to detect root/custom firmware but for Samsung warranty. A fair amount of people on here have stated that they still sent their phones in to Sammy for warranty and they still got their phones fixed. T-mobile really only look for cracked screens, water damage and that the phone powers on and boots up. Not to say you'll never have an issue but i would say it's not really that big of a deal to trip the Knox counter. Especially if you bought the insurance like Asurion. I don't think they even care if your rooted and ROM'd
Awesome. My concern here is that I would be disqualified from the jump program... I'd like to get the Note 4 as soon as it comes out.. Is there currently any way to root and flash a room without tripping Knox? Or can we only root without tripping Knox?
Before this gets locked, yes you can root without tripping knox. As mentioned knox is for samsung to deny repairs if they see fit (if the phone is sent to them). Tmobile could care less if the phone is rooted or not. You just have to be careful about warranty repairs for samsung, thats what they may or may not look at.
t3tr1s_ said:
Awesome. My concern here is that I would be disqualified from the jump program... I'd like to get the Note 4 as soon as it comes out.. Is there currently any way to root and flash a room without tripping Knox? Or can we only root without tripping Knox?
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On the old 4.3 firmware yes you can root with Root De La Vega and not trip the Knox counter but once you put ANY custom recovery it will trip the counter. Now on the OTA 4.4.2 that was released on Wednesday, the only 2 current ways to root (TWRP or Philz CWM) will trip the Knox counter no matter what. So until something comes out like an updated ROOT De La Vega, there's no way to even root without tripping the Knox counter.
Also from what i read, RDLV isn't being developed anymore so unless they decide to do something with it for the all the 4.4.2 releases hitting phones these days there may not be anything for a bit to root without tripping knox.
Jfree3000 said:
Before this gets locked, yes you can root without tripping knox. As mentioned knox is for samsung to deny repairs if they see fit (if the phone is sent to them). Tmobile could care less if the phone is rooted or not. You just have to be careful about warranty repairs for samsung, thats what they may or may not look at.
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That is true for 4.3 but so far you can't on 4.4 from everything I have seen. Do you now of a way to not trip knox on 4.4?
Jfree3000 said:
Before this gets locked, yes you can root without tripping knox. As mentioned knox is for samsung to deny repairs if they see fit (if the phone is sent to them). Tmobile could care less if the phone is rooted or not. You just have to be careful about warranty repairs for samsung, thats what they may or may not look at.
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Did I miss something? Is there a way to Root 4.4.2 without tripping Knox? I don't care I've tripped Knox the first night i had my N3 but I didn't think there was a way. Kningo and RDLV i thought borked the phones and caused bootloops.
My t-mobile store says that if you root your phone then it voids your warranty, so obviously they won't allow me to upgrade... So I know they check for it.. How is it you guys have stores where they don't seem to care?
I am apparently one of 3 people who actually use Knox... Is there a way to get root without tripping the Knox counter? There are two methods listed in the One-Stop Shop thread, but it looks like both of them disable Knox. Any and all help would be greatly appreciated!
Edit: Forgot to mention that I am on the latest AT&T OTA (MK6). I have flashed plenty of times before, just trying to keep Knox on this phone since it is fresh from warranty service.
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I'm gonna go out on a limb here...and say that the root binary...will be detected by knox....even if the root attempt does not trip the counter...
The rom will detect root and flag you constantly...
And here is the bigger problem in my mind...
If you manage to root...without tripping the knox counter...and you use the device normally...
If/when the day comes you need service....the bootloader flash counter will still show a custom binary flash count even though knox does not...and if you attempt to unroot....you will never be able to return to full stock with the official 4.3 loader....(gasping for air )...LOL
Long story short...
Root and Knox do not get along...and your warranty will be gone even if Knox and it's container remain intact...
Leave it stock...IMHO...g
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I want to root the tablet, but I was told Knox would be tripped if I do. How would having knox tripped affect me with Roms and my general use with the tablet? is there a way to root without tripping knox?
royredman said:
I want to root the tablet, but I was told Knox would be tripped if I do. How would having knox tripped affect me with Roms and my general use with the tablet? is there a way to root without tripping knox?
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Yes it's worth it. You will find it useful as you use your tablet after rooting. Tripping knox will not affect the software and general use. Unfortunately, there's no way that you can root without tripping knox for now. In some countries, a tripped knox bootloader can void warranty. So be sure to contact your local Samsung customer service for enquiries.
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I have not found rooting worth it since before JB.
If you like messing around with alternative OSs it would be. Otherwise I can't find anything I want to do bad enough to potentially void the warranty on a 400 dollar or more device.
For me it's worth it. Gives you the possibility to debloat the standard rom and make the use of Titanium backup possible.
Yes so you can delete/freeze all the crap that Samsung put on their products.
i was really hoping that a simply tool root method would come but who knows now. with the T800 if you root can you still get OTA updates. i undrestand the freezing etc.. problem but what i mean is can you either unfreeze everything or do an ODIN with recovery files or whatever and still get OTA to work?
i ask becuase we have very low dev support (not dissing current peeps because much appreciated) but i would like to not have to wait for devs to get OTA updates. i just want to freeze a few things and install Xposed.
royredman said:
I want to root the tablet, but I was told Knox would be tripped if I do. How would having knox tripped affect me with Roms and my general use with the tablet? is there a way to root without tripping knox?
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It's totally worth it, even if you trip Knox in the process. I don't think I could enjoy my tablet anymore if I had to unroot it for some reason. Greenify is a godsend since the S can be somewhat lacking in battery life, and foldermount let's you actually have games on it without decimating your 11gb of storage space by allowing you to transfer them over to an external micro SD card. Those are just the tip of the iceberg too. Wanam Xposed is also a must have. Tl;dr it's totally worth it. Not just worth it, imperative.
I did Root and tripped konx'a. Guarantee "went to love ', but I hope that the tablet will not break down.
It's definitely worth it. I have adjusted the Max volume of my device to my liking. You cant do that unrooted. Getting rid of bloatwares and using Xposed tweaks are the other things you can do when you are rooted. Plus, i've enable the softkeys and disabled the capacitative keys to be able to hold the tab better in landscape without accidentally hitting the back button. This is very useful when watching a movie. So, it is DEFINITELY worth it.
Warranty only covers factory defect. I havent experienced any of my past samsung devices.
I am using GMD gesture control (instead of the buttons), that alone is worth rooting, imho.
Some people are reporting problems with casing (getting creaks or wobbles). That should still be warranted even with knox tripped. Isn't it?
Main drawback I see, is that OTA updates are not working with knox bit tripped.
But usually we'll move on some custom ROM anyway.
I want to root the tablet, but I was told Knox would be tripped if I do. How would having knox tripped affect me with Roms and my general use with the tablet? is there a root without tripping it?
This is answered in three cf auti root thread.
There's no root without Knox tripping. If tripped you can't go back untripped. It does affect warranty. Technically does not make any difference.
I'm new to samsung devices but i have a good idea about knox now.
I rooted using autoroot and all is good but supersu keeps telling me it detects knox and can disable it for me. I canceled everytime since knox is not causing me any issues and my apps are getting root access just fine. So should i give in to supersu demands and let it disable knox or not?
Knox is pretty useless. Its a security app from samsung. You already tripped knox so why no disable it lol. When I was on stock i saw that it was training battery. So i rooted and disabled it and nothing is wrong. If you dont use knox, then you can disable it. Knox sometimes blocks root from certain apps.