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[Q] Could someone tell me how to price my used Desire (unlocked, GSM UK, April 2010)

This is the original UK/Europe GSM unlocked model purchased just under 1 year ago from handtec UK. It's in pristine shape, as I have always had it in a slicon/TPU case. Here is the model:
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=2251&c=htc_desire_a8181_htc_bravo
The key specs are:
1000 MHz CPU:
Qualcomm Snapdragon QSD8250
Memory,-Storage+capacity
RAM:capacity: 576 MiB
ROM-capacity: 512 MiB
Display_Type: Super LCD , 16777216 scales
Display-Diagonal: 3.7 "
Display;Resolution: 480 x 800
Sound: mono Loudspeaker(s): Supported
Audio;Output: 3.5mm
Cellular:Phone
Cellular-Networks: GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900,
UMTS900, UMTS2100
Cellular_Data_Links: CSD, GPRS, EDGE, UMTS, HSDPA, HSUPA
Analog-Radio;Receiver: FM radio (87.5-108MHz) with RDS
Camera: 4.9 MP
In USA, this phone runs on AT&T and T-Mobile, However, on TMO, it is NOT 3-G, only edge speeds, as it does not have the bands for TMO's 3G. I believe it has the bands for Canada's Roger's net, not sure.
This phone just had its entire motherboard replaced brand new by HTC Warranty Service -- the reason was due to the microUSB port solder-points slipping and thus bad PC-data-connections. This has been a frequent problem for people with the Desire and the Sprint EVO (google: HTC Desire microUSB port). The point is, the warranty service was a complete motherboard replaced, and there has never been any other issue.
The phone has never been rooted. It has the stock ROM, and has been updated with the periodic OTA HTC updates to froyo 2.2
I bought a myTouch 4g 2 months ago before I sent my Desire in for warranty work, and I like having the front camera, so I want to sell the Desire. Before I go to the Marketplace, I thought I would ask what is the reasonable price for it. (I will later take some well-lit close up pics of every surface; have the original box, charger etc)
Last question: If this were to be shipped to Europe, for example, what method do people usually use?
Thank you. /quicksite

If this is the A8181 model, it definitely doesn't work on Canada's Rogers network on 3g. I have the same model and the best it can do is EDGE.

Ninsassin said:
If this is the A8181 model, it definitely doesn't work on Canada's Rogers network on 3g. I have the same model and the best it can do is EDGE.
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okay thanks, i'm sure that is the case -- that it is only edge. Because i recall one year ago when everyone was hyped up to buy this phone (... so funny, how just one year ago this was the phone to have, and there were major shortages in supply chain throughout europe for weeks ... but such is mobile life!).. that I was checking to see if the Roger's model had the TMO 3G bands --- and it did not, which meant 2g for me (edge). Thanks for clarifying.

If it's in euro's then between 200 and 230 euro's is a reasonable price. With the currency of today that would be between 288 and 330 dollars.

Lennyz1988 said:
If it's in euro's then between 200 and 230 euro's is a reasonable price. With the currency of today that would be between 288 and 330 dollars.
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Hi, thank you very much for the guidelines. That may be fair but it seems a little lower than the Craigslist market shows.... but not all supply and demand are same region to region.
Anyone else have an opinion, or is this on the nose and recommended way to go? I have not yet looked at XDA's marketplace, mostly because it is generally driven by hurry hurry hurry, i need i need i need, i want i want.... And in my case I just want to make a no hassle deal that is fair to me, not just artificially low-balled.
I was looking at swappa, but i saw no recommended prices.
In my San Francisco Bay area craigslist ads, this is what I see -- but it could be comparing apples to oranges since there are so many flavors of HTC Desire -- and a critical factor for USA user would be its ability to run at 3G speeds. And it can't.
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/search/sss?query=HTC+Desire&catAbb=mob&srchType=T&minAsk=&maxAsk=
The version I have, the 8181 -- the seller in Bay Area is asking $410 -- have no idea what he will get for it ... but for the AT&T 3G version, it's asking price is between $350 and $500 on Craigslist.
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/mob/2313338713.html
I'd rather sell to an XDA'er, but there are two types of XDAers in the market place: Fair players and fast players looking to scoop up phones then resell them (editorial: I can't stand those people but I see them all the time browbeating sellers who have already offered really great discounted deal, and they come back with absurd terms. I'd boot them off this site if I could.)

Lenny, I think given what I find, that this phone can be bought brand new in USA from Amazon (vendor) for $445 USD (free shipping USA),
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then my rule of thumb is that paying $100 less for a one year old smartphone in excellent condition is fair & reasonable. So that would be $345 -- which is pretty close to what you said on the higher end of your sliding scale.
So, I will take pics and probably first put it on craigslist here in San Francisco, or maybe just list in both places at same time: craigslist and XDA marketplace. Either way I will include link to hi-rez video that shows the phone in high-detail and usage.
This was how I got it and decided to play against the stereotype:
IRREVERENT UNBOXING VIDEO:
and this was my early experimenting with a carry strap, which i later solved in completely different way -- but this was one year ago (april-may 2010)
MISSING CARRYING STRAP:
*** and don't worry, those white "egrip" grip pads were taken off after 1 week and the case arrived. I just didn't want it slipped out of my hand and crashing to floor.
and
this was my frustration at lack of accessories last year when Desire was released....., again, done for humor.
HTC Desire: How Not To Make a Cheapo Dock While Waiting For Real One
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Mijue T500 5.5" FHD, MTK6752, 3500mAh, 3GB RAM, Touch ID

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Mijue T500: could this be the flagship we've been waiting for?
The Mijue T500 is a high-end smartphone with some really great specifications and a huge 5.5” inch screen. It’s a perfect match for the Elephone P7000, Mlais M7, and uleFone Be Touch. Offering nearly the same kind of price, very similar specifications and good quality it seems like it will be a very tough choice between these three smartphones.
The Mijue T500 has a 5.5” inch Full HD 1080p IPS display, a 13 megapixel rear and 5 megapixel front camera. Also there is a touch-id fingerprint sensor on the back and it comes with a huge battery and of course 4G support.
Technical specifications:
Display Size: 5.5"
OS: Android 5.0 lollipop
Brand: MIJUE
Processor Cores: Octa-core, 64-bit MTK6752 1.7GHz
GPU: Mali-760 MP
Shell Material: Plastic
ROM: 16GB / RAM: 3GB
4G: band 7, band 1, band 3, band 20, 1800MHz, 2100MHz, 2600MHz
3G: WCDMA 850MHz, 900MHz WCDMA, WCDMA 1900MHz, 2100MHz WCDMA, WCDMA B1 / 2 / 5/8
2G: GSM 850MHz, GSM 900MHz, GSM 1800MHz, 1900MHz GSM, Volume 2, Volume 3, Volume 8
Display Type: FHD, IPS, 1080P, Touch screen, capacitive 1920 x 1080 pixels
Battery: 3800mAh, lithium battery
Screen Lock: Slide, Fingerprint Recognition, Pattern Unlock, PIN Unlock, Password
Standby: 2 SIM, 2xStandby
Data Transfer: LTE, GPRS, EDGE, HSPA, HSPA +
Reverse Camera Megapixel: 13.0 MP rear
Megapixel front camera: 5.0 MP Front
Other Features: OTG, Smart Pause, SMS, FM Radio
Size155.6 x 77.8 x 8.3 mm
Net Weight 179g (with a battery)

S7yler are you going to do a video review of this phone on your YouTube channel?

No1VIPER said:
S7yler are you going to do a video review of this phone on your YouTube channel?
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Actually I wanted to, but now it seems to be hard get my hands on one. Most shops for some unknown reason do not recommend this model.

I know that GearBest have it in stock. As I've been looking at it. Out of interest what phone would you recommend most out of the ones your reviewed? I currently edging towards the Jiayu S3 Advanced (3gb version). But I've read that apparently it comes with malware installed on it. Have you come across this?
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I know that GearBest have it in stock. As I've been looking at it. Out of interest what phone would you recommend most out of the ones your reviewed? I currently edging towards the Jiayu S3 Advanced (3gb version). But I've read that apparently it comes with malware installed on it. Have you come across this?
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No I didn't have malware on mine, and if I had, I would just root the phone and remove the malware. But yeah the S3 is definitely a good choice.

s7yler said:
No I didn't have malware on mine, and if I had, I would just root the phone and remove the malware. But yeah the S3 is definitely a good choice.
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That was exactly what I thought. Plus the S3 comes pre-rooted anyway, so you just have to enable it in the settings. It couldn't be any easier really. The only issue I'm having now is deciding where to buy it from. I've only ever used Merimobiles before. But I've read good things about Banggood and GearBest. Which would you recommend?
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Hi there,
someone could post the original rom with the recovery.img ?
I bricked mine and to recover it i used a zeaplus m7 rom.
The zeaplus rom has less fonctions than the mijue.
Thanks in advance.

Has anyone got delivery of this phone yet and can give any info of your impressions?

galaxyms said:
Has anyone got delivery of this phone yet and can give any info of your impressions?
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Hi,
phone is a pure joke :
- get VERY HOT whatever you do.
- battery life is extremly poor when using it.
- GPS is unusable.
- battery capacity is totaly fake.
- NO SUPPORT , no rom.

it is amazing, i like it. good design.

Krystyna said:
it is amazing, i like it. good design.
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ok i sell you mine for 100$ , do you want it ?

mijue t500 rom needed plz
someone has mijue t500 rom plz ?

lainarko said:
Hi,
phone is a pure joke :
- get VERY HOT whatever you do.
- battery life is extremly poor when using it.
- GPS is unusable.
- battery capacity is totaly fake.
- NO SUPPORT , no rom.
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mine is totaly different
1 compared to the v1 of elephone p6000 (broken) and v2 p6000 the battery is much cooler is quite cool to the touch
2 my example has a more longer lasting battery they even gave me two covers one transparent and one s-cover clip on
3 i bought it at a later production run actually one whole month after the first gen phones where launched are you sure that phone is really a mijue and not a imitation even unknown phones are copied i think china does not know what copyright infringement actualy means?
4 my supplier never failed me yet can not vouch for other suppliers or customers every one has different experiences
dont like it move on or change you supplier for someone with a better reputation might give you better phones?
just a thought
good luck with your next supplier as the one you've chosen is clearly crooked

Doogee F5 Info, Reviews, Unboxing, FAQs

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Phones are getting cheaper and cheaper. Doogee has released the F5, an MTK6753 phone for just $140! In addition, it has a 1080p screen, 3GB of RAM and a Samsung camera, which we will see how well it performs. See the specs below.
Mod edit: Selling site link removed by @Darth
Main Features:
DOOGEE F5 Android 5.1 5.5 inch 4G Phablet FHD IPS OGS Screen MTK6753 64bit Octa Core 3GB RAM 16GB ROM 5MP + 13MP Cameras
Display: 5.5 inch FHD 1920x1080 IPS OGS Screen
CPU: MTK6753 64bit Octa Core
System: Android 5.1
RAM + ROM: 3GB RAM + 16GB ROM (Available Memory 12.3GB )
Camera: Samsung-3M2 13.0 MP (SW16.0MP) rear camera + PIP mode OV5.0MP(SW8.0MP) front camera
Bluetooth: 4.0
GPS: GPS, A-GPS
Feature: 3 finger fast screenshot
SIM Card: Dual SIM dual standby, dual micro SIM
Network:
2G: GSM 850/900/1800/1900MHz
3G: WCDMA 850/1900/2100MHz
4G: FDD-LTE 800/900/1800/2100/2600MHz

Doogee F5 FAQs, you can look here: http://www.doogeemobile.com/doogee-f5.html

When it going to be on the market?

Already preordered one on yesterday.
The "doors open" on the 30th of September.

I've ordered one. The specs for the price at pre-order (under £100 GBP) were too irresistible to pass on. I'll post thoughts on the phone when I receive it.

I would like to order too!!,
but we don't know yet full spec.

I also wonder if the specifications are the same as advertised. Doogee has a history of lying about some specs (sometimes to catch buyers for pre-orders) and one site may show different specs than the other. Doogee said the phone is made of liquid metal, but in this video (2:10) the backovers look like white plastic on the inside: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnZCL5YSIvE The phone might not be entirely made out of metal. Also some shops claim that it has Corning Gorilla Glass. However, Doogee sais the phone won't have it. Another thing to check is the battery capacity.
A demonstration video of the fingerprint sensor: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bw83ph5ImnU
A video of the design: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulEIkkdpwKs

You mention unboxing in the title. Is that just because you plan on unboxing it when it comes out? Or...
Most of the time manufacturers send samples to people for reviews and such before being released. Sometimes far enough in advance to actually make changes before final production. So I thought this was one of those things, but really it has nothing we can't have at the retailers. :-\

Awesome Phone! Which online-shop will be the first/fastest one to ship those phones to the customers? Which one is usually good?
I'm just asking because I tried to get the Elephone P8000. Long story short after waiting for 2 months without it beeing shipped I cancelled my order. I'd like to avoid that here, as I really finally want/need a new phone!

Irresistible..I ordered one too..... I'll try to make areview when I receive it.

There is the only video oft that phone witch is not from doogee or a promotion:
youtu.be/2pUOZZXwX8U
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RoMaRo80 said:
There is the only video oft that phone witch is not from doogee or a promotion:
youtu.be/2pUOZZXwX8U
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If you look closely, you can see the video-frames when loading apps are skipped to make it look fast. (Take a look at 5:13, it's clearly visible when the camera app is being opened). I don't think this video is legit.

Bsotre said:
If you look closely, you can see the video-frames when loading apps are skipped to make it look fast. (Take a look at 5:13, it's clearly visible when the camera app is being opened). I don't think this video is legit.
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Yes it is. Its not an unboxing or an hands on video, but we can see more than only some pictures of the smartphone.
I made an order last week and looking forward to get it soon here to austria. Forgot to choose NL-post. Heard it would be fast er then. My first time with shopping outside oft the EU. Heard also rumours about an 32GB version.
Hope there is coming another great phone with dual sim - active not stand by - AND extra SD Card slot...
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It is having only 160K color instead of 16M

I just ordered mine from bangood.com. Main reason was a 6% discount coupon, so it only costed aroudn 131.50 USD. You can easily find the coupon via Google.
Also if you are a new customer, a 10 USD discount on the normal price of 139.99 USD should be possible, if you find someone who refers you to Banggood.
If you can't find the coupon, just PN me.
Banggood still shows that they expect the F5 on 15. October. I hope they will ship them out to us next week!

Anyone received their F5 yet?

No Yet
My Order 29-9-2015
I think Doogee has big problem...

BANGGOOD informed me to wait another 7 days!! (ordered 10.10) ,,,where are our phones doogee?

GearBest.com didn't send me anything.
I think we are in front of a big marketing bubble.
we will see...
News here or
how to make "business" with others money... with a simple "Apology"
PS:From Kalamaria...

GearBest finaly answered me, that my order will be shipped in 3-5 days.
I hope it's true.

M2 802L LTE in USA on Cricket (AT&T)?

Hello fellow members,
I was wondering if anyone could verify this for me.
I see that the 802L possibly might achieve LTE in the US has anyone had any experiences at all?
WillMyPhoneWork.net says that it may work, just looking to see if anyone can confirm.
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huawei mediapad m2-802l
N166A LOG1K said:
Hello fellow members,
I was wondering if anyone could verify this for me.
I see that the 802L possibly might achieve LTE in the US has anyone had any experiences at all?
WillMyPhoneWork.net says that it may work, just looking to see if anyone can confirm.
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It does achieve LTE speeds on both USA ATT and Tmobile. You just need to set the APN in the settings. It is just as fast as my Galaxy Note 4 on Tmobile. If anyone is wondering, YES, It works great with voice calls. I love the reaction people give me when I whip out an 8 inch brick and start holding it to my head.

lordhuynh said:
It does achieve LTE speeds on both USA ATT and Tmobile. You just need to set the APN in the settings. It is just as fast as my Galaxy Note 4 on Tmobile. If anyone is wondering, YES, It works great with voice calls. I love the reaction people give me when I whip out an 8 inch brick and start holding it to my head.
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Can you attach a screen shot where it actually say LTE on the top bar please?

Stupid double post

The picture from the seller does not show an earpiece on the top of the screen of the Huawei 802L. Can you provide a picture of your phablet? thanks...

I have the 802l. And have been using in okc metro on tmo for most of 2016. Lte/voice/data works flawlessly and gets same rates as note 3. 8 core cpu so overall experience is great. Speaker outputs on top and bottom sides so when using dialer top side speaker is activated at earpiece rate. Bluetooth or wired headset is strongly advised to cut back on the number of people asking if its really a phone. No band 19 coverage but personal research has lead me to believe this band is negligible. I ordered from eBay seller ~$320 shipped. From Taipei Taiwan to my okc door in less than 24 hours. no joke.

aaron73072 said:
I have the 802l. And have been using in okc metro on tmo for most of 2016. Lte/voice/data works flawlessly and gets same rates as note 3. 8 core cpu so overall experience is great. Speaker outputs on top and bottom sides so when using dialer top side speaker is activated at earpiece rate. Bluetooth or wired headset is strongly advised to cut back on the number of people asking if its really a phone. No band 19 coverage but personal research has lead me to believe this band is negligible. I ordered from eBay seller ~$320 shipped. From Taipei Taiwan to my okc door in less than 24 hours. no joke.
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Can you please help me with this?
1. Did you end up buying the standard (2GB) model or the Premium (3GB) one? If it's the premium one, can you point me to the right seller?
2. How do you like the cameras? I have an X2 which has better spec'd cameras
3. How is the battery life? My X2 has a larger battery (5000 mAh) so I'm not sure how this one would fare in comparison.
THANK YOU

shassouneh said:
Can you please help me with this?
1. Did you end up buying the standard (2GB) model or the Premium (3GB) one? If it's the premium one, can you point me to the right seller?
2. How do you like the cameras? I have an X2 which has better spec'd cameras
3. How is the battery life? My X2 has a larger battery (5000 mAh) so I'm not sure how this one would fare in comparison.
THANK YOU
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I got the 2gb from love.taiwan.
Cameras are average for a mobile imo. I dont do much shooting.
Battery is better than average for a phablet but dont expect same results. I plug in if im gonna watch a video or when I can. I wanted the x2 but went with m2 because of network/band coverage.
CORRECTION* its not b19 coverage issue but another. Make sure you double check band coverage device/service provider. Im lacking coverage on one band but ive never had speed or lte or 3g problems. I use frequencycheck.com

aaron73072 said:
I got the 2gb from love.taiwan.
Cameras are average for a mobile imo. I dont do much shooting.
Battery is better than average for a phablet but dont expect same results. I plug in if im gonna watch a video or when I can. I wanted the x2 but went with m2 because of network/band coverage.
CORRECTION* its not b19 coverage issue but another. Make sure you double check band coverage device/service provider. Im lacking coverage on one band but ive never had speed or lte or 3g problems. I use frequencycheck.com
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Hi, I'm confused about your last comment.
I did try the 802L on ATT here near Atlanta but did not see LTE working....(??) I'm confused as to what you meant about "another issue." Thanks! (perhaps my APN settings weren't right, but I'm not sure. Frequencycheck.com shows it lacking some support for the right bands.
Thanks!

I personally can confirm the M2-802L works on full LTE with T-Mobile USA.
From what I can tell, the only US LTE bands that work on this phone is B2, and B4.

I've been using the 802l for about a month now on Ting's GSM network. Using Ting's GSM APN settings to the letter I routinely get download speeds faster than on my Mediapad X2 702l on the same network in the same locations. Note that my 802l has never said "LTE" on the top bar; it shows a "4G" icon for speeds above HSPA+. My X2 702l says "H+" (HSPA+) at best, never "4G" (the X2 is known not to get U.S. LTE bands).
Also, voice calls work great on the 802l. When calling without Bluetooth the sound comes out of the top speaker but is loud enough for most conversations.

UMI Super Edge will come with RAM 6GB, Android7.0 OS after UMI Super

According to the latest news from UMI, they will release the latest model, UMI Super edge with RAM 6GB, Android7.0 OS. It will use Samsung curved screen. It will release in second half of this year, i guess after Samsung released its curved screen phone, they will also presell it soon. Do you know other specs right now?
Check UMI Super main specs:
5.5inch capacitive screen, Corning Gorilla Glass 3,FHD 1920x1080 pixels, SHARP LTPS (2.5D Arc screen)
CPU:Helio P10 MTK6755 octa core Cortex-A53 2.0GHz; GPU: ARM Mali-T860 MP2 700MHz
Android 6.0 OS Marshmallow, 4GB SAMSUNG eMMC+LPDDR3 RAM + 32GB ROM,TF card up to 256GB(not included)
Dual SIM card dual standby ( Dual Micro SIM or 1 Micro SIM card and 1 TF Card. Both SIM slots are compatible with 4G, respectively. When they work at the same time, only one of them can receive LTE service and the other GSM )
Dual cameras, 5.0MP GalaxyCore GC5005 front camera, 13.0MP Panasonic back camera with dual flash and auto focus
4000mAh SONY battery,aluminum unibody,LED notification,fast charge,side-mounted smart key
Microarray 3D fingerprint ID,2.4G/5G dual WIFI
Support FDD LTE/4G/3G/GPS/Bluetooth/OTG/Type-C
Networking:2G: GSM 850/900/1800/1900MHz, 3GWCDMA 850/900/1900/2100MHz, 4G: FDD LTE: 800/1800/2100/2600MHz
UMI Super review have come out! Anyone has tested it?
Source: igeekphone
Watch UMI Super Video 1:
Watch UMI Super vs Ulefone future review:
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So the difference between this and the UMi Super is the screen? Do you know if they will be using the same Sharp screen?

zijin_cheng said:
So the difference between this and the UMi Super is the screen? Do you know if they will be using the same Sharp screen?
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right now i just know UMI Super edge is possible to use Samsung Curved screen.

I have heard really good things about Umi's latest venture. I think by all accounts this will be their best yet. But saying that, they have let people down with specs that just were not there. And rumors are abound of another Version called the edge running android 7. I guess we will just have to wait and see. I think they need to release a phone that lives up to expectations though. 1 thing is for sure I would love to be on a list of people assigned an early release. It does sound like it will be 1 hellava phone

UMI SUPER
That device is phenomenal
4 GB RAM would must be help us to get rid of any issue.

Very good phone

Kashan786 said:
That device is phenomenal
4 GB RAM would must be help us to get rid of any issue.
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yeah, it play games well.

I'm a bit confused on the specs. Does it comes with 4GB or 6GB memory?

obs1979 said:
I'm a bit confused on the specs. Does it comes with 4GB or 6GB memory?
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4GB.
6GB is the speculation for the EDGE version to have.
I ordered it last week, waiting for the delivery. cant wait

Hopefully this time they will make the phones that will work on the US 4G LTE networks

Erick Cho said:
Hopefully this time they will make the phones that will work on the US 4G LTE networks
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yeah, right now only HOMTOM HT10 supports global 4G LTE For US, Europe, Africa, Oceania, etc.

FumiJ said:
yeah, right now only HOMTOM HT10 supports global 4G LTE For US, Europe, Africa, Oceania, etc.
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I'm using Xiaomi Redmi Note 4G LTE now that I can get the 4G in US... the weird thing is in US here when I called T-Mobile they told me about the 4G has 1900, 2100Mhz which Umi Super has but I guess the bands are different which I don't know different bands would have same Mhz...

When is the Edge hitting the net
I guess I cant say stores but when is it going uo for sale and how much is it supposed to be?
Thank you all you have all been very helpful with my UMI Super rooting and roms etc been a leaps and bounds helpfullness