So, barring software compatibility, it seems possible to put an internal laptop HDD into the shield non pro-model.
The biggest issue is that the shield pro has a ribbon cable and mounting point soldered onto the secondary board that the regular 16gb model does not.
16GB model:
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500GB PRO model (image credit user takitoes ):
if you're trying to effectively solder to sata point on the board, better break out the fume hood. i fancy myself pretty handy with a soldering iron - i've pulled off a few JTAG and RGH installations in 360's, but that's not something i think i could do.
Part sourcing
I'm going to actually attempt this when I get my system finished with it's setup.
The parts I'm working with will be a 20pin FFC lobsterclaw from mouser:
<can't do outside links yet, search for: XF2M-2015-1A on mouser.com>
And from ebay an FFC to female sata header, although all I'm seeing now are male and I'm not sure how much clearance I've got inside since I didn't open mine yet.
Other than that, since it looks like there are no pitfalls to be encountered in proprietary pinout or extra circuitry, I'll toss my hat in and give it a try and post the results
Since the pro 500's pic is small there, can anyone tell which orientation pin 1 is, or maybe a larger picture of the adapter.
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still need the photo
Puglife said:
I'm going to actually attempt this when I get my system finished with it's setup.
The parts I'm working with will be a 20pin FFC lobsterclaw from mouser:
<can't do outside links yet, search for: XF2M-2015-1A on mouser.com>
And from ebay an FFC to female sata header, although all I'm seeing now are male and I'm not sure how much clearance I've got inside since I didn't open mine yet.
Other than that, since it looks like there are no pitfalls to be encountered in proprietary pinout or extra circuitry, I'll toss my hat in and give it a try and post the results
Since the pro 500's pic is small there, can anyone tell which orientation pin 1 is, or maybe a larger picture of the adapter.
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photo of adapter
I can't seem to find a close up photo of the adapter anywhere at all.
Since I bought the 16GB, and I don't know anyone else with a 500, it'd be great if someone could share a nice high res photo of the adapter cable.
I can put the ffc connector on there, and assume that the orientation is correct since I'm sourcing the same type of ffc connector with the claw to the back, but since I'm not keen on burning out a hdd by doing a reverse sata hookup and sending power into the data port, I'd rather not move forward without a picture.
I suppose I can probe out the pins once I have an ffc cable in there.... ugh.
Just for informations, nothing special. I appreciate your work.
From Android M every external HD or external sd card can expand your real internal storage. And it work very very well. We also have usb 3 so it can be also better.
I already tested this functionality on the Nexus Player and i assure you that will solve all your problems also with a bad read / write external storage.
For the moment i use the app foldermount that can save all my apps and games on an external sd card.
I have no doubt Google has the storage situation addressed in M, but who knows if M will ever make it to the shield outside of a custom rom. I like the way the device works now, that's the only reason I'm investing time into it, when I ignored all the other devices.
So far, this device alone is reducing my electric bill by replacing a noisy full desktop that I was using to run XBMC, I found the Pi to be too underpowered for my needs.
Shame that each new android revision is snubbed by most manufacturers in order to sell new hardware, but that's the lifecycle of electronics.
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Shame that each new android revision is snubbed by most manufacturers in order to sell new hardware, but that's the lifecycle of electronics.
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I'm hoping NVIDIA continues their method from the past as they're currently about to release an update to lollipop for the shield portable which was released on July 31rd, 2013 and shipped with Android Jellybean 4.2.1. If they continue this trend for the shield android tv, I expect we'll see android M on it
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I have no doubt Google has the storage situation addressed in M, but who knows if M will ever make it to the shield outside of a custom rom. I like the way the device works now, that's the only reason I'm investing time into it, when I ignored all the other devices.
So far, this device alone is reducing my electric bill by replacing a noisy full desktop that I was using to run XBMC, I found the Pi to be too underpowered for my needs.
Shame that each new android revision is snubbed by most manufacturers in order to sell new hardware, but that's the lifecycle of electronics.
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Considering how good nvidia has been about bringing updates so far and the fact that they keep their systems almost fully stock, I have faith we'll have M before the end of the year (within a month or two of M being released)
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Im in to see progress of this mod
:good:
Something I'm curious about here. Can someone on the 16GB model boot my twrp build and see if /sys/devices/platform/tegra-sata.0 exists? I expect it will be and that means that this mod is possible. Though, it would be somewhat of a hack to chainload the boot to a sata hdd.
I've been doing some research on the opposite. On the pro model, the emmc is actually there, but is flat zeros (like binary diffing a dd of it and a dd of the same size from /dev/zero returns no differences). So it appears to me that the bootloaders (like pre fastboot bootloader) are looking at the internal media specific to the model. Like I said above, it should be possible to chainload back and forth. But for me, I'll likely just format and mount the unused emmc for extra storage (and likely faster r/w). Also, standard disclaimer that I haven't tried this yet, so don't blame me if you try something and it perma-bricks your device.
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I can't seem to find a close up photo of the adapter anywhere at all.
Since I bought the 16GB, and I don't know anyone else with a 500, it'd be great if someone could share a nice high res photo of the adapter cable.
I can put the ffc connector on there, and assume that the orientation is correct since I'm sourcing the same type of ffc connector with the claw to the back, but since I'm not keen on burning out a hdd by doing a reverse sata hookup and sending power into the data port, I'd rather not move forward without a picture.
I suppose I can probe out the pins once I have an ffc cable in there.... ugh.
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Pics attached. Hope it helps
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Pics attached. Hope it helps
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Damn, the entire cable is matte black, I was hoping I could figure out the orientation of the pins. I suppose I can guess based on that if the pins are straight through, but it looks like there's 22 total pins in a sata connection and 20 in the FFC connector.
Any chance you can give me a really close zoom of the conductive end of the FFC cable that plugs into the board so I can see if they skip pins or combine pins to isolate the signal?
Status update: I'm still waiting for the SATA board from china/ebay to assemble this, in theory I can just use a soldered off header from a junk board like ps3, or something to do this, but I wanted a clean solution with as few parts/wires as possible so it fits neatly inside.
More than likely by the time I assemble something, Ebayers will probably be posting a "replacement" cable for it.
I did already get the FFC connector installed, that was a piece of cake. I'll take pictures of it as soon as my wife stops watching Mad Men on netflix.
My hopes for this are just more addressable internal storage, not necessarily being able to boot off the hard drive.
let me know, with a closer look at the board, i think i could handle that soldering job
Did that project go anywhere? I'm very interested in doing this also if is worked.
I might be super lazy but is this cheaper and easier than just buying the pro model? What benefit does this have over going pro?
You can add in an ssd potentially that's bigger than 16gb and therefor better performance. It would also cost less if you were me and have a 120gb ssd laying around.
Has anyone addressed the issues with getting the hard drive partitions to be recognized by any software/OS and cloning the drive? This would seem to me to be the first step required before figuring out solder points, etc.
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Seeing as I and the OP have the non pro, would be harder for us. That being said, I don't want it to replace the 16gb is possible, so even if it's not bootable no biggy as long as it sees it and I can put files an there.
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I stole the micro sd reader from an old phone of mine and was wondering if it'd be at all possible to add it to the motherboard in some way, or if I could make it fit as slimly as possible on the exterior via an otg cable. I found this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1587019
but, I wanna know if there's a way I can keep the use of my micro usb port.
This link, http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Samsung-Galaxy-Nexus-Teardown/7182/1, has the entire teardown of the Galaxy Nexus if it will help at all.
Thanks!
You won't be able to add it internally.
Would I be able to snip the male end of an otg cable, solder the wires to the internal female micro usb connector, run the female end out to a usb stick?
I mainly want to be able to maintain the use of the usb cable. That and to not have an inch long stick coming out of my micro usb port like in the link of my first post...
A simple solution: sell ur gnex and buy an S2 or sensation
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Had a sgs2 but gave it to a friend. I like the feel of this phone better. Plus, I like having something to do.
I don't understand. You'd rather wire a cable so its permanently dangling off your phone vs buying a detachable USB cable? Maybe mod it into a case?
I like the idea of adding one internally but I dunno man. Maybe to just add and forget. Like maybe soldering a microSD directly to the board?
16gb should be plenty for mobile needs. If you need more, a cloud based storage seems like the better choice here.
I just can't wrap my head around why people feel the need to carry all that data around all the time.
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I wanna have something that I can throw my music onto, have all my backups on, have a rom or two thrown on there as well, alongside a couple movies. I'm military and we're currently working 17 hour shifts. I like having plenty of movies, and internet sucks, cloud storage is a no no. Being able to have something I can throw a few movies on in just a few minutes via mass storage and be good to go sounds awesome to me. while yes, I can work something into a case to where I can just use a cable WOULD work, it's a big hassle since that's just more I have to carry around. My cat has also decided that my cables for my phones are delicious. I've lost quite a few in the past few weeks.
Being able to buy the necessary cables and crap would take at least a month to get where I am. The local stores around me really don't delve into ANYTHING technological. I have to order everything online.
I would mainly just like to have something I can transfer stuff to and from within minutes, not hours. If not adding an sd card, please point me to some unseen by me partitioning of the internal memory.
Sorry if I'm ranting. Just explaining myself
Someone over in the Kindle forums is attempting the same thing. Perhaps his thread could be of use to you...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5212394
Good luck man.
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uoY_redruM said:
Someone over in the Kindle forums is attempting the same thing. Perhaps his thread could be of use to you...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5212394
Good luck man.
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Kindle forum? what you linked was from the G1 forum
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Kindle forum? what you linked was from the G1 forum
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ya beat me to saying it
zephiK said:
Kindle forum? what you linked was from the G1 forum
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Sorry, he has a thread in the Kindle forum. He links from there to another thread. I thought his link was more examples. Didn't realize he then linked to another thread.
Someone in Kindle Fire forum has a thread attempting this, though.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25212300
I'm not crazy
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Thanks for the link, I'll try and get a hold of the guy and see if there is something we can both come up with to be able to add a micro sd into the phones/tablets. If so, pictures, tutorials, and the whole shabang will be posted.
I don't know if you guys noticed, but if you pry off the battery door you'll notice a big hunk of plastic off to the side of the camera that is shaped suspiciously like a MicroSD card slot that was covered up at the last minute. You can see a similarly-shaped slot fully realized as an actual MicroSD reader on the Galaxy S3.
Basically this proves the Galaxy Nexus had a MicroSD card slot originally, but it was removed from the final design. This detail is strangely overlooked from the teardowns of the device, and I would be curious to see if someone could take a closer look at the mainboard to see if there are four suspiciously unused contacts or pins that you could solder to for putting the card reader back in. I'm just not adventurous enough myself to take my phone apart, and I don't know enough about the electronics in these devices to be able to point out non-obvious things like unused pins.
What do you guys think?
Would be cool if you could mount a external portable 1 terabyte hard drive via micro usb..
Edit: lol i found this app Stickmount made Specially for GNex so you can plug ANY usb drive with an otg cable so guess all my music (about 38500 songs/3.5 months playlist) and my movies collection (about 200 movies) all in my 1 terabyte ext hd usb can come with me now everywhere xD
Like any usb port in a computer
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msedek said:
Would be cool if you could mount a external portable 1 terabyte hard drive via micro usb..
Edit: lol i found this app Stickmount made Specially for GNex so you can plug ANY usb drive with an otg cable so guess all my music (about 38500 songs/3.5 months playlist) and my movies collection (about 200 movies) all in my 1 terabyte ext hd usb can come with me now everywhere xD
Like any usb port in a computer
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Late to the party bro. Lol.
let it be.
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Late to the party bro. Lol.
let it be.
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xD well this its my very first android device so im kinda still discovering stuff xP
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msedek said:
xD well this its my very first android device so im kinda still discovering stuff xP
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Don't forget set CPU, adfree, titanium backup, six axis controller app, root explorer, SQL lite, terminal emulator and more.
let it be.
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Don't forget set CPU, adfree, titanium backup, six axis controller app, root explorer, SQL lite, terminal emulator and more.
let it be.
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Got all those and more.. Im running and loving AOKP M5 and franco m3
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earlyberd said:
I don't know if you guys noticed, but if you pry off the battery door you'll notice a big hunk of plastic off to the side of the camera that is shaped suspiciously like a MicroSD card slot that was covered up at the last minute. You can see a similarly-shaped slot fully realized as an actual MicroSD reader on the Galaxy S3.
Basically this proves the Galaxy Nexus had a MicroSD card slot originally, but it was removed from the final design. This detail is strangely overlooked from the teardowns of the device, and I would be curious to see if someone could take a closer look at the mainboard to see if there are four suspiciously unused contacts or pins that you could solder to for putting the card reader back in. I'm just not adventurous enough myself to take my phone apart, and I don't know enough about the electronics in these devices to be able to point out non-obvious things like unused pins.
What do you guys think?
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Above the SIM Card slot; could it be?
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Most likely not; they're probably just debugging test points, but interesting nonetheless. It's unlikely that this discussion will lead to anything productive, but you make a good point.
Heck, if I could solder in th cables to the micro usb internal port, have a small switch to connect the reader between pins 4 and 5 of the inside, what type of speeds would I be looking at? The person in the kindle forums was able to get the wires soldered, and from my understanding, it showed up temporarily. I haven't really seen anything else coming out of it. I did see that I would require a swich since a usb cable has only 4 wires, but the port has 5, and if I were to solder the 4th and 5th together, I would lose adb, charging, and usb mount on pc. I don't want to lose either of those, but, I do have adb wireless, and extra battery with charger, and I also have the wifi file transfer that works phenomanally.
I'm extremely tempted to just try it to see what happens. Throw stickmount onto my phone, plug a micro sd in, and see the data transfer rate. Possibly do it over this upcoming weekend. If anyone has any tips, advice, a "don't wire this while doing this", that would be awesome.
Just a heads up guys for those who are interested,
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B008CT83H8/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00
Edit: Hasc found a cheaper version, UK http://www.amazon.co.uk/SAMSUNG-GALA...d_sim_sbs_ce_3
US links and prices below
Bought and tested and can confirm it works on my galaxy note10.1, ive tested the usb an sd card, still have to test microsd, will update with a nay or yay on micro sd if i get round to it
Just a note, i originally thought id bought a non functional chinese knock, or incompatiible unit, as nothing happened when i initially tried testing my usb and sd, turns out, i had'nt pushed the adapter all the way in, had to put just a tiny bit of pressure for it to go all the way in, and yes as im writing this, i DO see the sexual implication i may have just made
Edit: Reevaluating my comment, i think i may just have a dirty mind .
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Theres been some helpfull posts and links posted on this thread from some of you nice gentlemen, hope you guys dont mind if i copy and paste some of them on the first post for those who might be interested, if you are let me know
Compatible multi adapters
Adapter no.1
Uk version
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Thanks to HasC for that
Link to post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=31041202&postcount=2
Us version
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006DQWIKK/ref=gno_cart_title_2
Thanks to Fire Witch for that
Link to post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=31190512&postcount=4
Adapter no.2
Us version
http://www.amazon.com/GrayBean-Conn...-5&keywords=samsung+galaxy+tab+connection+kit
Thanks to iandy for that
Link to post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=31323749&postcount=11
banderos101 said:
Just a heads up guys for those who are interested,
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B008CT83H8/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00
Bought and tested and can confirm it works on my galaxy note10.1, ive tested the usb an sd card, still have to test microsd, will update with a nay or yay on micro sd if i get round to it
Just a note, i originally thought id bought a non functional chinese knock, or incompatiible unit, as nothing happened when i initially tried testing my usb and sd, turns out, i had'nt pushed the adapter all the way in, had to put just a tiny bit of pressure for it to go all the way in, and yes as im writing this, i DO see the sexual implication i may have just made
Edit: Reevaluating my comment, i think i may just have a dirty mind .
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Just followed your link and there's one for half the price ( http://www.amazon.co.uk/SAMSUNG-GALAXY-P7500-Card-Reader/dp/B0073P32X2/ref=pd_sim_sbs_ce_3) , how is the quality of these things?
HasC said:
Just followed your link and there's one for half the price ( http://www.amazon.co.uk/SAMSUNG-GALAXY-P7500-Card-Reader/dp/B0073P32X2/ref=pd_sim_sbs_ce_3) , how is the quality of these things?
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I cant atest to how long they'll last, hopefully a while, time will tell, but overall im happy with it, as it gives the tab a few more extra ports and storage options, something all android tablets should have to begin with as far as im concerned,
Pro
It fits its purpose
Con
The adapter disconnects if you fiddle with it, to much
Theres a side button to switch between usb and card mode, which can be tricky bugger, trying not to accidently disconect the thing
Usb doesnt work with my portable harddrive, i think its to do with the power draw, im assuming this can be fixed with a software update on the samsung side of things, as the tf200 was able to, and perhaps samsung or a dev can do the the same in future, if their so inlined, otherwise, youll probably gonna need external power for harddrives, usb sticks work fine, at least the two different makes that ive tried, freecom and bytestor.
My ethernet to usb adapter doesnt work either, whereas it did on my prime, pretty sure thats a software fix too, whether that happens, is anyones guess
Here's the American version
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006DQWIKK/ref=gno_cart_title_2
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Here's the American version
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006DQWIKK/ref=gno_cart_title_2
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Doesn't have very good reviews.
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Doesn't have very good reviews.
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As someone who has bought it, i can totally agree with some the negative reviews, on the thing being flimsy, its what i was trying to describe on my above post with "fiddly".
My take on it, if you want a multiport this will do for the price, budget adapter if you will, you just have to be delicate. If you strapped for cash go for it, if you want an adapter that will last the long run, find another, likely more cash
There was one review on there that said that his didnt work at all, which initially i thought the same with mine, until i realised i hadent pushed the adapter all the way in, you gotta put a deceptive amount of pressure, for it to go all the way in,. Just a heads up to those who end up buying and face a similar situation.
It bugs me that all these adapters seem to come in two flavors: one solid piece so you have 2" of a plastic tab sticking out when its plunged in or if its connected to an adapter the cord coming out from it is straight out the back. Why doesn't someone come with a simple low profile connector with the cord routed on the side (no sticking out the back) minimal profile when plunged into the tablet and a short cord going into a slim USB or HDMI or Card reader? Would work perfect while the tablet is in a case and not pose a possible breakage risk like the all-in-one types do.
Rpmbnsf I agree completely.
banderos101 said:
As someone who has bought it, i can totally agree with some the negative reviews, on the thing being flimsy, its what i was trying to describe on my above post with "fiddly".
My take on it, if you want a multiport this will do for the price, budget adapter if you will, you just have to be delicate. If you strapped for cash go for it, if you want an adapter that will last the long run, find another, likely more cash
There was one review on there that said that his didnt work at all, which initially i thought the same with mine, until i realised i hadent pushed the adapter all the way in, you gotta put a deceptive amount of pressure, for it to go all the way in,. Just a heads up to those who end up buying and face a similar situation.
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Well for now we have to settle for the cheap stuff, or pay allot of money for OEM stuff which there is not much avaiable cause its so new to the market. But my Note arrived today and I'm so happy with it.
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Well for now we have to settle for the cheap stuff, or pay allot of money for OEM stuff which there is not much avaiable cause its so new to the market. But my Note arrived today and I'm so happy with it.
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As you say, the only way i can see myself buying a premium accessory is, if its a prime like keyboard
Keyboard spec
Usb, the more the merrier
Hdmi out
Sd card slot
Battery extender
Keyboard doubles up as a stand
That would be my ultimate accessory, and id be willing to pay a "fair" price for it, but if one should come out that meets a certain criteria (usb, hdmi, keyboard) and cheap, id go for it, if user reviews are positive
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It bugs me that all these adapters seem to come in two flavors: one solid piece so you have 2" of a plastic tab sticking out when its plunged in or if its connected to an adapter the cord coming out from it is straight out the back. Why doesn't someone come with a simple low profile connector with the cord routed on the side (no sticking out the back) minimal profile when plunged into the tablet and a short cord going into a slim USB or HDMI or Card reader? Would work perfect while the tablet is in a case and not pose a possible breakage risk like the all-in-one types do.
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I had been using this one: http://http://www.amazon.com/GrayBean-Connection-Compatible-Capacitive-TouchScreen/dp/B0072FJEA8/ref=sr_1_5?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1347172206&sr=1-5&keywords=samsung+galaxy+tab+connection+kit
It'a little bulky but I can connect 3 USB flash drives(Fat32) at the same time and 1 memory card.
The memory card reader can't support 2 different memory cards at the same time but that's not a big thing.
I have working at the same time with no additional power supply a 128GB Lexar memory card, 64GB compact flash drive,
32Gb Microsdhc on a compact usb adapter or a USB transmitter for my Logitec wireless Gamepad.
On the Amazon reviews there is a post about working external hard drives(FAT32) with an additional power supply.
iandy1 said:
I had been using this one: http://http://www.amazon.com/GrayBean-Connection-Compatible-Capacitive-TouchScreen/dp/B0072FJEA8/ref=sr_1_5?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1347172206&sr=1-5&keywords=samsung+galaxy+tab+connection+kit
It'a little bulky but I can connect 3 USB flash drives(Fat32) at the same time and 1 memory card.
The memory card reader can't support 2 different memory cards at the same time but that's not a big thing.
I have working at the same time with no additional power supply a 128GB Lexar memory card, 64GB compact flash drive,
32Gb Microsdhc on a compact usb adapter and a USB transmitter for my Logitec wireless Gamepad.
On the Amazon reviews there is a post about working external hard drives(FAT32) with an additional power supply.
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Very nice find :good:
Im tempted to try that one out too. Is the port connector secure, as in, does it come of easily with normal use, or does the tab have to more or less stay stationary while using it?
Thanks for posting that,.
banderos101 said:
Very nice find :good:
Im tempted to try that one out too. Is the port connector secure, as in, does it come of easily with normal use, or does the tab have to more or less stay stationary while using it?
Thanks for posting that,.
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Port connector good so far, treating it with care, been using it for a week. I don't move around with the connection kit dangling from the tablet,
that may reduce the life of the connector.
Hub usb + charger is useful?
Hi, I will receive my G.Note10.1 tomorow and I'm looking for an usb adapter that would be able to charge the device as well, because I plan to use it long hours at my university and I love to use pendrives.
I've found this one, and as I can't post links yet, here is the name for those curious:
"30Pin to USB 3 Port Hub Charger Kit fr Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1" - it's in Amazon.com and it's not rated yet.
Has anyone tested it yet? Do you think it's safe to use something like this?
Thanks in advance,
Nimel
(Brazil)
Hi All,
The PlusberryPi is a designed box with all you need to make your raspberry pi a beautiful HTPC. The PlusberryPi comes with 3A power supply, PCB (printed circuit board) designed for the box that will add SATA connector for internal HDD plus USB hub, power switch and a beautiful designed box.
Me and my team started working on the Plusberry when we realised what a mess it caused in the living room - a USB hub (with its own power adaptor), external HDD - and all the cables that go with them.
We wanted it to look good, and have all that functionality built-in. We designed a PCB (hub and SATA adaptor) and a case that offers many advantages.
Our design will fit all models A/B/B+ and will include a 3A power supply, PCB with an usb hub and SATA adaptor for internal hard drive and a beautiful case where all connectors are in the back panel.
Right now we are crowd funding the project on indiegog (Plusberry Pi), help us make it by spreading the word.
http://igg.me/at/plusberrypi/x/7802494
PlusberryPi facebook page:
https://www.facebook.com/PlusberryPi
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I am funding a new designed case for the raspberrypi.
Me and my team started working on the Plusberry when we realised what a mess it caused in the living room - a USB hub (with its own power adaptor), external HDD - and all the cables that go with them.
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What a nice looking project. Wish you all the best for your campain.
Too bad the RPi performs so poorly as a NAS with the bottleneck being the USB to wich both network and HDD are connected.
МІР said:
What a nice looking project. Wish you all the best for your campain.
Too bad the RPi performs so poorly as a NAS with the bottleneck being the USB to wich both network and HDD are connected.
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maybe you can use HummingBoard, it's compatible with raspberry pi.
back panel connectors
Here is an image showing the connectors arrangement in the back of the box:
front view
Here is front view, you can see the front USB connector and the LED location.
Plusberry Pi PCB
Take a look at our PCB. The PCB was designed to fit the PlusberryPi case and enable SATA connector, USB hub and power switch.
Setting PlusberryPi in the living room
Before the Plusberry:
after the PlusberryPi:
Last week on indiegogo
Hi All,
I wanted to share with you the status of our project on Indeigogo.
The last week was amazing, we were on the indiegogo newsletter and we managed to reach 85% funding.
We added 3 more perks:
1. low power perk, this one includes case, PlusberryPi io board and 2A power supply for only 43$
2. Fully assembled Media Box, A fully working Media box (includes Raspberry B+ and Plusberry card, box, 3A power adapter, pre-installed 8GB SD card, all wires connected) - just add a hard drive if you wish for 145$
3. Fully assembled Media Box PRO, A fully working Media box (includes Raspberry B+ and Plusberry card, box, 3A power adapter, pre-installed 8GB SD card, all wires connected) - with 1TB HDD and WiFi dongle! for 235$
We would really appreciate if you can help us make it happen by supporting us and spreading the work.
Thanks you all,
PlusberryPi team
What will happen if I support and project dies not get fully subscribed
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I have a B model assembled with hifiberry DAC. Can it be assembled inside the box with some DIY modification of the box. I also have a16x2 LCD display running which I think I will have to ditch. But I need to get my hifiberry into the box desparately to support the project. Thanks anyway for supporting RPI
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I have a B model assembled with hifiberry DAC. Can it be assembled inside the box with some DIY modification of the box. I also have a16x2 LCD display running which I think I will have to ditch. But I need to get my hifiberry into the box desparately to support the project. Thanks anyway for supporting RPI
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Hi,
First i can assure you the project will not die and we will ship the product to each and every one of our supporters.
For us gaining the trust of our supporters is very valuable since we have future plans.
We already made a long way before we started the project on indiegogo and we have all we needed to build our production line.
Regarding the hifiberry, currently it will not fit, but i will ask our designer to check it again.
Regards,
Sasi
sasile said:
Hi,
First i can assure you the project will not die and we will ship the product to each and every one of our supporters.
For us gaining the trust of our supporters is very valuable since we have future plans.
We already made a long way before we started the project on indiegogo and we have all we needed to build our production line.
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Could you clarify that a little, as if the project doesn't get its last 5% then aren't all the pledges refunded anyway?
I've just put in my support for one as it looks a very good bit of kit, so wanted to know how it would work if things don't quite make it (which I hope they do of course) as I love the design and functionality of that case. Is it going to end up as a separate transaction directly with you guys?
One other question, if the Pi and a hard drive are in there and being used as a media server/player, how much heat is generated and can the case/enclosure cope with it sufficiently? I've seen heat sinks available for the Pi, but I presume one of those wouldn't work in this case if the hard drive is in place above the Pi?
Best of luck with it anyway, looking forward to being a successful backer of your fine work :fingers-crossed:
DarrenHill said:
Could you clarify that a little, as if the project doesn't get its last 5% then aren't all the pledges refunded anyway?
I've just put in my support for one as it looks a very good bit of kit, so wanted to know how it would work if things don't quite make it (which I hope they do of course) as I love the design and functionality of that case. Is it going to end up as a separate transaction directly with you guys?
One other question, if the Pi and a hard drive are in there and being used as a media server/player, how much heat is generated and can the case/enclosure cope with it sufficiently? I've seen heat sinks available for the Pi, but I presume one of those wouldn't work in this case if the hard drive is in place above the Pi?
Best of luck with it anyway, looking forward to being a successful backer of your fine work :fingers-crossed:
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Hi,
Thank you for the support!!!
You are correct, if the project doesn't get funded then all pledges are get refunded. The good news is that we passed 97% .
In case it won't make it is a question that related to all projects on indiegogo and the refund is processed by indiegogo and not by us.
Our cooling solution is a fan below the HDD, we did some testing on our sample unit and it was fine.
We have an twitter account and facebook page and we will post updates as we go.
Thanks,
PlusberyPi Team
sasile said:
Hi,
Thank you for the support!!!
You are correct, if the project doesn't get funded then all pledges are get refunded. The good news is that we passed 97% .
In case it won't make it is a question that related to all projects on indiegogo and the refund is processed by indiegogo and not by us.
Our cooling solution is a fan below the HDD, we did some testing on our sample unit and it was fine.
We have an twitter account and facebook page and we will post updates as we go.
Thanks,
PlusberyPi Team
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Thanks, although pleasingly irrelevant as I see you've now exceeded your target. May I be the first to offer my congratulations
If you have a recommendation for a suitable fan, I would be interested to know for the future. Initially I'm not going to fit the HDD as my box will take its media from my NAS drive, but it'll be useful in case I do add one later. Will pinch the wife's twitter and FB accounts to keep an eye on things.
Our progress to manufacturing
Hi,
in the last few weeks we been working on some improvements both in the mechanical and electrical design and we added some new features:
Electronic improvements
* IR sensor - we will supply a VISHAY TSOP38238 sensor, with the necessary cables and a mounting hole in the front of the box.
* Safe shutdown (we have verified this on B and B+, not verified on model A yet).
* "Take over" the SATA connection from an additional Micro-USB connector. This essentially turns the Plusberry Pi an external storage device - no need to suffer from a slow ethernet connection when loading new content to your drive.
Mechanical improvements
* We will support thicker HDD - up to 12.5mm. This should include most of the HDD models out there.
* Added ventilation slots, to reduce the need of a fan.
* We're adding a universal hanging accessory.
* We have improved the way the Raspberry is fixed to the enclosure.
* We made the enclosure stronger to avoid warpage.
here is our last 3d print of the box. we wanted to make sure everything fits before getting into production
Hi everyone,
More updates can be found in our indiegogo page but here is a quick update on the production progress:
* PCB production – 23.03
* PCB assembly – 30.03 – 13.04
* Plastic mold finish and T0 (First trial) – 30.03
* Plastic T1 and approval – 13.04
* Plastic ready at factory – 20.04
* Final assembly and testing – 27.04
* Packaging and Shipping - 29.04
Nice project.
I'm hoping release sales to make my purchase order.
sasile said:
Hi everyone,
More updates can be found in our indiegogo page but here is a quick update on the production progress:
* PCB production – 23.03
* PCB assembly – 30.03 – 13.04
* Plastic mold finish and T0 (First trial) – 30.03
* Plastic T1 and approval – 13.04
* Plastic ready at factory – 20.04
* Final assembly and testing – 27.04
* Packaging and Shipping - 29.04
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Looks great...
kemo87 said:
Looks great...
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They are great - mine's now sat just underneath my TV acting as my Kodi media box with my RPi2B. Works a treat, and blends in seamlessly and very tidily (aside perhaps from the slightly over-bright blue power LED on the front of it).
Can i still buy one of these, why aren't they being sold through amazon or something like that?
HI, does anyone own this unit?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/182051526612
If so, what is your impression of it so far?
I am going to place an order for it to replace my broken Toghai unit.
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Specs:
Unit Size: Double Din in-Dash
CPU: RK3188 Cortex A9 Quad Core
NAND FLASH：: 32GB
Model: 12-RQ0253-US1-A
Screen Size: 7-inch 1024*600 Touchscreen
RAM: DDR3 2GB
Operate System: Android 4.4
If any of you do own it, are there any modifications available for it?
I have it.
big mistake.
the CPU is 3188T that actually run at 1.2ghz.
unknown rom version that not support nothing.
bad launcher. and no 5.1.1 update.
i will replace it with joying.
Damn. Ordered it on Thursday. Should artive next week :/
you can send it back..
i post here several questions about this system with no ensures.
I thought Pumpkin were just rebranded Joyings? If so I would think joying would have a higher horsepower unit under their name first. I wonder who actually produced this and why isn't joying using 2gb of RAM already then?
This product is not from joying. It's an unknown Chinese company.fineyea.
http://www.fineyea.com/
I guess that pumpkin wanted to build a new brand.
cmeyal said:
This product is not from joying. It's an unknown Chinese company.fineyea.
http://www.fineyea.com/
I guess that pumpkin wanted to build a new brand.
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Pumpkin is just a reseller... http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Hui_Fei_Type#Manufacturers
Well, I ordered it on a Thursday afternoon and it arrived on Monday.
Four days is not bad at all, when you figure it is coming from China and having to clear customs.
It came in a box, delivered by DHL. It was packed very nicely.
(See the first attached pic.)
Take out the box that is inside the box and you have the exterior of the Android box (2nd pic)
Opening the lid, everything looked packed very secure.
We can see a few things on top of the stereo (3rd pic)
The stuff on top (4th pic) consists of a front plate, a thank you car with contact info, a warranty card and a user manual!
Wow, I didn't get any of that with my previous Android radio.
Taking the radio out of the box, it is packed nice for shipping in its foam and plastic protection
There were a few cables under the radio in a plastic bag . Here's another view
At first I was really happy because this head unit uses the same plug as my previous head unit, which would save me the time of resoldering a bunch of new connections, but as I compared the pin outs, other than the power and ground, the pin configuration is different.
This isn't a problem of the radio or the manufacturer, this is just something that would have been nice (consistency). Then again, I remember Alpine and Kenwood having consistency issues backs in the 80s.
The black plug (ISO?) is already connected to the other end, unfortunately my 2002 Camaro plug is different and I will have to cut off the ISO and solder mine on. Once again, not a problem and something I was already planning on doing.
Once thing that I did like, is how the wires are covered or coated for the wires not in the ISO plug.
The manual is pretty decent and I do like how the SWC wires are labeled "KEY1 -5V" and "KEY2-5V".
My other Android never mentioned what the maximum voltage was, so I didn't know if I needed a voltage divider for my SWC.
I do know that I will need one now, as my SWC puts out .1-11VDC:
2002 Camaro Steering Wheel Schematic
The other nice thing so far is Pumpkin Cool has responded to all four of my emails within 24 hours.
I'm going to try and install the stereo tomorrow, and take plenty of pics and provide feedback on its operation.
More pics here
interested to see how that turns out, if I'm not mistaken, only in-dash and ownice have 2GB of RAM before this
CadillacMike said:
interested to see how that turns out, if I'm not mistaken, only in-dash and ownice have 2GB of RAM before this
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were you able to see my pics?
I couldn't (they appeared as broken links), so I changed them to links
I could not see the pics. As links the first one works, but the other 2 do not. But that could be due to me being on mobile.
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Well, I did a semi quick install over the weekend as I had no time this weekend.
I will try to finish it up this coming weekend, but here are some pics of the initial install.
I forgot to post a pic of the top of the radio (wiring diagram) on the first thread
My Camaro stereo harness is all soldered and ready to install
I love how they gave the audio jacks their own connector
It bothers me when the manufacturer doesn't provide a plug for them and they take up space behind the unit (if they're not being used).
Here's the initial boot up screen
And the main screen (launcher?)
Wifi is included (internally) and is not a separate dongle, like my previous unit.
The radio / tuner screen is also much better than my previous radio, but I wish they would also give more real estate to station and/or song title rather than the little space it is given. I really also wish we could hide the genre that shows up like "Educate". KROQ is not an educational station :silly:
I do love how you can rename the station to your liking. I also love the fact that you can tune by punching in the station numbers (such as 1-0-6-.-7). I never understood why my previous Android or my Alpine couldn't do that.
The last three pics are the three "desktop" screens/pages:
Page 1
Page 2
Page 3
I didn't take a pic of the OS or software, I'll try to remember to do that tonight.
I did install Waze and RocketPlayer and they work great.
The previous stereo I had would "scratch" a song every now and then, but I never experienced that sound on my laptop or Galaxy phone. I haven't heard the sound yet on this player, so I guess that extra core or memory is doing something
Another positive thing that I've noticed so far is if playing Rocket Player and I shut off my car, rocket player will start back up when I restart my car.
You don't know how bad I wanted that option on my last unit.
I still have to hook up my rear camera, SWC and fix my bezel. I'll give more updates and pics as I get them in the next day or two.
That looks just like the joying JY-UL124 in front and a bit like the S160 with the individual plugs in the back.
UL124
Dave
ROCNDAV said:
Well, I ordered it on a Thursday afternoon and it arrived on Monday.
Four days is not bad at all, when you figure it is coming from China and having to clear customs.
It came in a box, delivered by DHL. It was packed very nicely.
(See the first attached pic.)
Take out the box that is inside the box and you have the exterior of the Android box (2nd pic)
Opening the lid, everything looked packed very secure.
We can see a few things on top of the stereo (3rd pic)
The stuff on top (4th pic) consists of a front plate, a thank you car with contact info, a warranty card and a user manual!
Wow, I didn't get any of that with my previous Android radio.
Taking the radio out of the box, it is packed nice for shipping in its foam and plastic protection
There were a few cables under the radio in a plastic bag . Here's another view
At first I was really happy because this head unit uses the same plug as my previous head unit, which would save me the time of resoldering a bunch of new connections, but as I compared the pin outs, other than the power and ground, the pin configuration is different.
This isn't a problem of the radio or the manufacturer, this is just something that would have been nice (consistency). Then again, I remember Alpine and Kenwood having consistency issues backs in the 80s.
The black plug (ISO?) is already connected to the other end, unfortunately my 2002 Camaro plug is different and I will have to cut off the ISO and solder mine on. Once again, not a problem and something I was already planning on doing.
Once thing that I did like, is how the wires are covered or coated for the wires not in the ISO plug.
The manual is pretty decent and I do like how the SWC wires are labeled "KEY1 -5V" and "KEY2-5V".
My other Android never mentioned what the maximum voltage was, so I didn't know if I needed a voltage divider for my SWC.
I do know that I will need one now, as my SWC puts out .1-11VDC:
2002 Camaro Steering Wheel Schematic
The other nice thing so far is Pumpkin Cool has responded to all four of my emails within 24 hours.
I'm going to try and install the stereo tomorrow, and take plenty of pics and provide feedback on its operation.
More pics here
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that was comprehensive.Finally know how it exactly works.:good:
That is pretty cool looking. I may have to reconsider this one.
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is there a way to look in the settings and confirm it has 2GB of ram? and 32 gig of memory? Also let us know any issues you find and your overall impression. How are you connecting your SWC? Why did you order from eBay vs the regular Pumpkin site?
I might order one this weekend
any updates on how this unit is doing?
CadillacMike said:
is there a way to look in the settings and confirm it has 2GB of ram? and 32 gig of memory? Also let us know any issues you find and your overall impression. How are you connecting your SWC? Why did you order from eBay vs the regular Pumpkin site?
I might order one this weekend
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I would also like to know this.
And does the CPU actually only run at 1.2GHz as the first reply claimed?
Any updates on this? I'm considering getting the 2gb ram model, but with the different butting configuration up front (revealed SD/navi slots and front USB port)
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And @ROCNDAV, it seems you didn't end up buying the one you linked in the first post, but rather went with a different model (different fascia, different connections on rear, different depth of unit). Did you try out the model you originally linked to? Interested to know if it's any good.
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CadillacMike said:
is there a way to look in the settings and confirm it has 2GB of ram? and 32 gig of memory? Also let us know any issues you find and your overall impression. How are you connecting your SWC? Why did you order from eBay vs the regular Pumpkin site?
I might order one this weekend
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Sorry. I didn't get any emails informing me of replies.
I took some more pics, but i guess they're too big to upload, so I'll have to resize on my laptop.
I still havent done more to the install, so swc isnt hooked up.
I timed the boot up and it takes 26 seconds to boot up, but the reverse camera is pretty instant, even during boot.
I did order the radio on the link on the first post. I just clicked it and it took me to ebays page where it showed i bought it already. I just realized that it does look different from the one on the first page.
I like mine better, as it is nice to click the physoval Navi button to switch to Waze.
I wish there was a physical music button and or radio button too.
Hey,
So i got an Nexus 5X 16Gb, and like you know It's totally un efficient. I see that a russian Guy has changed his memory chip of an Nexus 5.
My idea is to Add an SD slot (but how and where) or change the eMMC chip.
Any idea for it ?
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Pepe_The_Frog said:
Hey,
So i got an Nexus 5X 16Gb, and like you know It's totally un efficient. I see that a russian Guy has changed his memory chip of an Nexus 5.
My idea is to Add an SD slot (but how and where) or change the eMMC chip.
Any idea for it ?
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Have you consider a USB C OTG flash reader/writer like meenova?
http://www.meenova.com/st/p/dash_g3c.html
sfhub said:
Have you consider a USB C OTG flash reader/writer like meenova?
http://www.meenova.com/st/p/dash_g3c.html
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Sure, but my idea is not an occasional adaptater but a real memory extend like this thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/help/nexus-5-64gb-t3350533
I'm confused with 2 ideas :
-Add an SDCard slot (can be cool)
-Extend memory to 64 or 128gb (my advice SDCard still better)
On the iFixit Teardown guide, it says it's a Toshiba THGBMFG7C2LBAIL (16gb variant) chip.
And in the Toshiba catalog, like u can see downside, all chips seems to be the same type (P-WFBGA153).
The problem is the size of the chip. Upgrade can be easily done to 32GB (N5X Variant), or to 64 and 128 gb, up to 0,4mm difference.
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Searched a bit on the web and finded some chips:
64GB Variant:
https://www.rutronik24.com/product/toshiba/thgbmhg9c4lbair/7782539.html
http://fr.aliexpress.com/item/THGBMHG9C4LBAIR-VFBGA-153-eMMC5-1-64GB-Flash-Memory/32653487163.html
128GB Variant:
http://fr.aliexpress.com/item/THGBMHT0C8LBAIG-TFBGA-153-eMMC5-1-128GB-Flash-Memory/32653124263.html
http://www.alibaba.com/trade/search?fsb=y&IndexArea=product_en&CatId=&SearchText=THGBMHT0C8LBAIG (Ask seller)
The only problem i see is like i said above, the chip size grew up to 0,4mm, so is it possible to do it without get an curved nexus?
Any ideas where and how is possible to put an SD Reader?
Pepe_The_Frog said:
Sure, but my idea is not an occasional adaptater but a real memory extend like this thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/help/nexus-5-64gb-t3350533
I'm confused with 2 ideas :
-Add an SDCard slot (can be cool)
-Extend memory to 64 or 128gb (my advice SDCard still better)
...
The only problem i see is like i said above, the chip size grew up to 0,4mm, so is it possible to do it without get an curved nexus?
Any ideas where and how is possible to put an SD Reader?
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Replacing the emmc chip is doable (but you still need to deal with software side, repartitioning and making sure not to take factory updates that might overwrite your changes), but making it possible to use an SD reader is IMO not practical in this form factor which is why I suggested a small card reader.
If you were thinking to replace the EMMC chip with a reader, they are not interchangeable technology. You are going to need to find some other place to attach the reader. Even if you do that, the reader won't function any different than an external reader. You'd need to change the bootloader to boot off of it and probably various Android features wouldn't work
Unless you want to drill into the bezel, probably cracking it in the process, the only place it could possibly fit is if you got rid of the SIM card slot. Then look for some spare USB leads on the motherboard or attach to USB C port.
The amount of effort you are going to put into this, might as well just buy a phone with more memory, but if you find it fun, go for it.
sfhub said:
Replacing the emmc chip is doable (but you still need to deal with software side, repartitioning and making sure not to take factory updates that might overwrite your changes), but making it possible to use an SD reader is IMO not practical in this form factor which is why I suggested a small card reader.
If you were thinking to replace the EMMC chip with a reader, they are not interchangeable technology. You are going to need to find some other place to attach the reader. Even if you do that, the reader won't function any different than an external reader. You'd need to change the bootloader to boot off of it and probably various Android features wouldn't work
Unless you want to drill into the bezel, probably cracking it in the process, the only place it could possibly fit is if you got rid of the SIM card slot. Then look for some spare USB leads on the motherboard or attach to USB C port.
The amount of effort you are going to put into this, might as well just buy a phone with more memory, but if you find it fun, go for it.
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The combo SD Reader + new memory chip could be good , but according to hardware limitations, i prefer replace my memory chip by a new one.
I'll try to dismount my 5X and see if the 0,4mm are so problematic that i expected.
For the software part, i'll do more researches about it, but the guide for the Nexus5 seems to be good.
Pepe_The_Frog said:
The combo SD Reader + new memory chip could be good , but according to hardware limitations, i prefer replace my memory chip by a new one.
I'll try to dismount my 5X and see if the 0,4mm are so problematic that i expected.
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I'm curious, do you have experience with BGA reball/reflow?
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sfhub said:
If you were thinking to replace the EMMC chip with a reader, they are not interchangeable technology. You are going to need to find some other place to attach the reader.
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So you should figure out what the memory controller used on this device is. Sometimes it is possible to reconfigure it to use sd. If so, you can probably figure out which BGA pad location on motherboard correspond to the ones you need and try and rig something to a micro-sd holder (or even to the micro-sd card directly.
Personally I would only try this stuff on a broken phone as the chance for error is high.
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I'm curious, do you have experience with BGA reball/reflow?
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So you should figure out what the memory controller used on this device is. Sometimes it is possible to reconfigure it to use sd. If so, you can probably figure out which BGA pad location on motherboard correspond to the ones you need and try and rig something to a micro-sd holder (or even to the micro-sd card directly.
Personally I would only try this stuff on a broken phone as the chance for error is high.
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Never heard about BGA method. After checked some YT vids, a hot air pistol seems to be good, right?
I don't have lot material ( i'm 16, basic soldering iron and some other stuff, replaced LCD, Jack connector etc. without problems, modded 7yo laptop etc. ) so any every idea is welcome
Pepe_The_Frog said:
Never heard about BGA method. After checked some YT vids, a hot air pistol seems to be good, right?
I don't have lot material ( i'm 16, basic soldering iron and some other stuff, replaced LCD, Jack connector etc. without problems, modded 7yo laptop etc. ) so any every idea is welcome
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If you had access to Infrared BGA rework station that would be better, but you can do it with hot air gun, but you need one with tight control of temperature.
The solder on the BGA pads will "flow"/melt at a specific temperature range. If you go much beyond that temperature, you can damage the chip or surrounding components. Below that temperature, nothing will happen.
Most people will use temperature probes to monitor the reflow process.
Just search for xbox reflow and I'm sure you will get lots of instruction.
The proper equipment is quite pricey, but you can get by with more basic equipment for some of the steps.
You will need hot air or IR to reflow the solder between the BGA component and the pads on the board. That can't be done with solder iron as the pads are underneath the chip.
I wish you luck on the micro soldering , its not as easy as you might think
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I wish you luck on the micro soldering , its not as easy as you might think
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Soldering a BGA component with iron is IMO impossible, but reflow isn't that bad if you have the equipment and/or experience. The component gets "sucked" into place once the proper temperature for reflow is reached.
The solder is naturally adverse to the PCB material and will attract to the metal pads on the board and BGA component. Just add generous flux and everything will "flow" into place. Can skip a a couple of steps if you can get pre-balled emmc component.
I wouldn't do this as my first project but it is doable. Best to practice on broken xbox's first.
sfhub said:
If you had access to Infrared BGA rework station that would be better, but you can do it with hot air gun, but you need one with tight control of temperature.
The solder on the BGA pads will "flow"/melt at a specific temperature range. If you go much beyond that temperature, you can damage the chip or surrounding components. Below that temperature, nothing will happen.
Most people will use temperature probes to monitor the reflow process.
Just search for xbox reflow and I'm sure you will get lots of instruction.
The proper equipment is quite pricey, but you can get by with more basic equipment for some of the steps.
You will need hot air or IR to reflow the solder between the BGA component and the pads on the board. That can't be done with solder iron as the pads are underneath the chip.
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What do you think about these ones?
https://www.amazon.fr/ECO-WORTHY-station-reprise-Titulaire-Conseils/dp/B014UCG1HO/
https://www.amazon.fr/stations-souder-x2103-pistolet-Desolder/dp/B0171F7HAC/
https://www.amazon.fr/InfoCoste-BAKU-878L-Station-soudage-chaud/dp/B00MA01HXW/
carm01 said:
I wish you luck on the micro soldering , its not as easy as you might think
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I would like to make it my job, i'll try be careful with my 5X
sfhub said:
Soldering a BGA component with iron is IMO impossible, but reflow isn't that bad if you have the equipment and/or experience. The component gets "sucked" into place once the proper temperature for reflow is reached.
The solder is naturally adverse to the PCB material and will attract to the metal pads on the board and BGA component. Just add generous flux and everything will "flow" into place. Can skip a a couple of steps if you can get pre-balled emmc component.
I wouldn't do this as my first project but it is doable. Best to practice on broken xbox's first.
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I know I use to work at the former Cincinnati microwave, so i have done plenty of quad flat packs, the hot air machine, microscopes; and with the correct equipment it is easy as gravy, also the lithography has got ungodly tiny since the 90s as well. I had plenty of times where i heated up a double sided board and one of the common things to do was to gently tap near the chip to see if it was loose, and it would just move, well all the components on the underside fell off LOL
That's why i am saying good luck with a soldering iron you are in for a challenge if not impossible
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What do you think about these ones?
https://www.amazon.fr/ECO-WORTHY-station-reprise-Titulaire-Conseils/dp/B014UCG1HO/
https://www.amazon.fr/stations-souder-x2103-pistolet-Desolder/dp/B0171F7HAC/
https://www.amazon.fr/InfoCoste-BAKU-878L-Station-soudage-chaud/dp/B00MA01HXW/
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I don't have experience with them. I think with the less expensive models the soldering irons either have trouble maintaining temperature when you have large areas to desolder or the hot air cannot provide enough heat to account for the board acting has a heat sink.
This is what a more professional rework station looks like
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Achi-IR-Pro-SC-BGA-Rework-Station-with-DVD-training-set-/251525538916
In the US folks don't like to pay for full rework stations so they will usually try something like Aoyue 968.
It is also important to know whether you are using lead-free or lead solder. The US (and I think all of EU) banned lead solder so most of the time we are working with lead-free solder. Lead solder melts/flows starting at 183C, maybe up to 215C. lead-free solder will need to get up to 240C maybe up to 250C.
However you have an entire board acting as heat sink, so it is difficult to just heat one spot to the proper temperature. The way people make it easier is to pre-heat the entire board to something like 200C then use the hot air gun to heat the BGA area another 40-50C to get it to reflow.
I've seen people try pre-heating their boards using a griddle used for cooking and a temperature probe, but that is too ghetto for me.
I think with a small board like on nexus 5x (vs larger board on xbox) you can get away with just using hot air on the small area as the board is not sucking away as much of the heat but if you can pre-heat that would be best because it'll be easier and less chance of damaging components on the sides of the memory chip.
I really suggest you practice on a trash motherboard your BGA reflow skills prior to working on your phone though. Alternatively get someone who has done this stuff before to help you out.
Why would you go through all that trouble? Either sell your 16gb phone and buy a 32gb one, or one with built in uSD expansion, or get wireless memory stick http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ZCFYFAO
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colorado_al said:
Why would you go through all that trouble? Either sell your 16gb phone and buy a 32gb one, or one with built in uSD expansion, or get wireless memory stick http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ZCFYFAO
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Buyed at 315€, now it cost 235€
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