Develop Bugs

Anykind of docking station available?

Hey guys, has someone a fitting dock for the Captivate Glide?
AFAIK there is no official one, but maybe the dock of another, more famous, Samsung phone does fit the Glide also.
Greetings Alex22

Unfortunately, I think we are in lack of luck with the µUSB port on the top. This would constrain to put the phone horizontally on a dock with the docking on one edge.
This must explain the lack of docking station on eBay unlike the batteries' charging stations.
One alternative may be to reproduce this SGS mod : http://www.qianqin.de/2011/09/18/samsung-galaxy-s-wireless-inductive-charging-mod
But I don't know if it is possible with our Captivate Glide.

Here is 1 from Philips http://www.techradar.com/reviews/au...-systems/philips-fidelio-as851-1042940/review unfortunately our phone would be connected upside down. I wonder if there is an app that lets it work upside down?

dudejb said:
Here is 1 from Philips http://www.techradar.com/reviews/au...-systems/philips-fidelio-as851-1042940/review unfortunately our phone would be connected upside down. I wonder if there is an app that lets it work upside down?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Back when I used CM for the HTC Dream, I always had the option to enable the screen to rotate 360°.
So I guess it's a ROM thing, but definitely makeable.
But anyways, that's a pretty hefty docking station, and with nearly 200 pounds it's nowhere near my budget.
Lets just hope there'll be more Android Dockingstations to come.
@EMegamanu: Thanks for the link, pretty interesting that you can mod a phone like that. But I'm too afraid and too inexperienced with solderings to mod my phone like that

EMegamanu said:
Unfortunately, I think we are in lack of luck with the µUSB port on the top. This would constrain to put the phone horizontally on a dock with the docking on one edge.
This must explain the lack of docking station on eBay unlike the batteries' charging stations.
One alternative may be to reproduce this SGS mod : http://www.qianqin.de/2011/09/18/samsung-galaxy-s-wireless-inductive-charging-mod
But I don't know if it is possible with our Captivate Glide.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Wow, that is impressive. I wish I didn't care about my warranty. Lol

This looks cool the Dock Boss allows you to plug your android phone into any Ipod dock:
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19736_7-20110799-251/dockboss-plug-android-phones-into-iphone-docks/
OK I doubt it allows you to control the Next track and play/pause but it should charge and route the Music to the device. It plugs to your phones audio connector and the Micro USB to charge.
Here is another dock that looks interesting uses a cable to plug to an android phone so it does not matter where the connectors are located. It also has a nice little Remote:
http://www.thinkgeek.com/electronics/home-entertainment/ec56/
JB

dudejb said:
This looks cool the Dock Boss allows you to plug your android phone into any Ipod dock:
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19736_7-20110799-251/dockboss-plug-android-phones-into-iphone-docks/
OK I doubt it allows you to control the Next track and play/pause but it should charge and route the Music to the device. It plugs to your phones audio connector and the Micro USB to charge.
Here is another dock that looks interesting uses a cable to plug to an android phone so it does not matter where the connectors are located. It also has a nice little Remote:
http://www.thinkgeek.com/electronics/home-entertainment/ec56/
JB
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I like the docking station from thinkgeek. The Price is okay, the design as well, the only thing that I would nitpick about is that you can't just put the phone into the dock, but have to connect both headphone and charging cable to hte phone.
Otherwise than that it's worth the weight for me.

You know, it's a shame that our phones seem to have a cult following almost. Many people don't seem to know about it either. Samsung did great, especially since keyboard phones are going the way of the dodo, and I use a keyboard for gaming and texting anyway.
My only complaint is that there's no hardware camera button, but that's not a deal breaker in the least.

Really missing my Milestone dock.....its the only downside to this phone I can find.
I hate fishing for charging leads

MnemonicSyntax said:
You know, it's a shame that our phones seem to have a cult following almost. Many people don't seem to know about it either. Samsung did great, especially since keyboard phones are going the way of the dodo, and I use a keyboard for gaming and texting anyway.
My only complaint is that there's no hardware camera button, but that's not a deal breaker in the least.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The keyboard and the availability on my carrier made the decision for me. I do a lot of emailing from my phone, and the keyboard is just faster and more precise than even Swype style input options for me.
I did at first miss the hardware camera button from my old WinMo LG eXpo, it was very nifty, but it's not even an issue for me anymore. Is that a common thing among Android phones?

the galaxy s vibrant comes with a charging dock that uses the same corner usb connection. Unsure on the thickness of the phone in comparison to the vibrant though.
Sent from my XT862 using xda app-developers app

Well, I bought one to try out. Wasn't much, only $10 from eBay with the packaging or $13 new. Oh, I'm using a stock AT&T Captivate Glide on the latest update.
Physically, it's fine. Smaller than it looks, actually, covering about 9/10 of the length & 4/5 of the height. The depth is a bit more fudged, covering only the lower half of the slider, leaving the screen half hanging. The main issue is that although the plug is 95% on target, the 5% means you'd have to add a spacer to raise the rest of the phone up a bit. But it definitely attaches without trouble. Nice & compact.
EDIT: Driver: the charging works, though considering it didn't a few hours ago, I'm not sure what changed. Ah, the connector is a tad longer than what fits, so perhaps one must jiggle the phone a bit to get it to work? Though I tried that earlier, too....
Software/driver side is a flop. The Samsung Desk Home application from the marketplace (the generic one) doesn't work. So yeah, no automatic launching or sound out of the dock's line out. It's odd, since the settings has a dock setting in the settings, so something should work. I just wasn't able to find out what. I suppose the dock might have an identifier & the phone isn't coded in?

Yo_L2 said:
Well, I bought one to try out. Wasn't much, only $10 from eBay with the packaging or $13 new. Oh, I'm using a stock AT&T Captivate Glide on the latest update.
Physically, it's fine. Smaller than it looks, actually, covering about 9/10 of the length & 4/5 of the height. The depth is a bit more fudged, covering only the lower half of the slider, leaving the screen half hanging. The main issue is that although the plug is 95% on target, the 5% means you'd have to add a spacer to raise the rest of the phone up a bit. But it definitely attaches without trouble. Nice & compact.
EDIT: Driver: the charging works, though considering it didn't a few hours ago, I'm not sure what changed. Ah, the connector is a tad longer than what fits, so perhaps one must jiggle the phone a bit to get it to work? Though I tried that earlier, too....
Software/driver side is a flop. The Samsung Desk Home application from the marketplace (the generic one) doesn't work. So yeah, no automatic launching or sound out of the dock's line out. It's odd, since the settings has a dock setting in the settings, so something should work. I just wasn't able to find out what. I suppose the dock might have an identifier & the phone isn't coded in?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
which docking station did you get? that is 1 thing I don't understand with samsung, why do they make the micro usb connector on the top of the phone? It should be on the bottom, this would be simpler for docking stations to connect and less cumbersome having a wire to conect all the way to the top of the phone.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I927R using xda app-developers app

My mistake, I forgot it's difficult to locate. Here's the Galaxy S used version <ebay.com/itm/OEM-Samsung-Galaxy-S-i9000-Multimedia-Dock-Home-Charger-/150629639833> & new version <ebay.com/itm/N-OEM-Samsung-Galaxy-S-4G-Multimedia-Dock-Home-Charger-/160616869990>. If you go through the store, there's the Vibrant & Galaxy S versions, but I'm not sure there are any differences.
Being a horizontal dock, your issue is not applicable, though it's certainly understandable.
Oh right, the clock application already has a dock function, but it doesn't activate upon docking & I couldn't get it to reroute the audio. It does prevent the screen from turning off, so I guess it's not too bad.

Hi would this work with the glue as a basic dock? not sure if the plug is in the right place for this mobile,
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-Gal...UTF8&colid=2AOM2U1G0O9ZJ&coliid=I9O547D7LLW3P
if not aren't there any Samsung accessories that can be adapted for a dock to charge or hdmi out here's wishing lol.
Atb

That is the amazon location of the dock I reviewed. Everything I've mentioned should apply.
I guess glue would work? As long as it's completely dry, naturally. I used three thin nails in three rows, taped down. Not the prettiest, but at least it matches the blue led.
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}

Hi Thanks for that, where's the link to your review and why were the nails used just to stop it dropping forward of the front of the dock, were there any other mods needed to make it work.
Thanks
Paul

The review is spread over two posts, two & four posts above my prior post with pictures.
I used nails as a spacer as the micro-USB port is a tad bit high. Everything else worked well, though the phone electrical connection to the dock may be finicky at times.

I currently use an ihome desk lamp. The glide sits rather well in the ipod dock, but I have to supply my own power. I was eyeing this the other day too http://www.thinkgeek.com/product/ec56/

found it! SGH-i927 HTPC solution
here's what i think we've all been looking for:
this should be all you need to use your Captivate Glide as HTPC (or just use the dock on your night-table/desk, whatever)
iBolt™ MHL Streamer Dock - Black
http://www.fommy.com/view-full-page.php?divid=Samsung&model=Samsung+Captivate+Glide+SGH-I927&cat=Cradles&skuno=94753
the only actual dock i've found that's listed as compatible with i927, and it comes with cables! i am SO getting that one of these days...
(actually, the compatibility list is quite large, i'm guessing just about any device with MHL will work with this dock)
i happened to find this site about an hour into googling for a glide dock... they have the widest range of sgh-i927 stuff i've found:
http://www.fommy.com/samsung-captivate-glide-sgh-i927.htm
and that's the only place i've found that sells the iBolt dock...
couple that dock with a Bluetooth kbd/mouse combo; something like this:
CE Compass Bluetooth HID Wireless Keyboard Mouse
*edit*
THIS little thing is AWESOME:
http://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/wireless-touch-keyboard-k400
I picked one up on sale at Office Depot. Works GREAT and even has a home button.
After using this on windows pc's, android tablets and android phone (USB OTG), I HIGHLY reccommend it to anyone looking for a keyboard with integrated touchpad.
two finger scrolling in windows and android works great.
in case you don't have an hdmi monitor, just an HD hdmi to dvi adapter for ~$5
(if you have to go DVI, chances are you'll need an audio cable to connect to your audio device. for example, my tv is older and doesnt do audio over DVI, but the DVI input has RCA audio inputs right beside it; so i would use a 3.5mm to RCA cable.
Or you may want to run from phone headphone jack to audio line in on your home theatre audio receiver.
Chances are if you need seperate audio cable, either 3.5mm to RCA or 3.5mm double-ended cable would be what you need.)
so that's about $100 to use your phone as a desktop computer or HTPC as well.
I can't wait to try this on my 60" DLP tv....

Car System with NOTE

I want to make the beast (aka note) the centre of entertainment/info in my car.
The problem: My car has no aux input.
Solution: FM Transmitter.
Now I tried a few cheapo fm transmitters, and they all had horrible sound connection. The transmission was fine but something was wrong. I pretty much gave up on this idea until I tried my brother's fm transmitter. It was crystal, however it had long cables which dangled over the driver -not ideal. Also, his one was from a good company and cost $120 -yikes.
Anyways, just the other day I saw my friends set-up. All he had was this:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Which can be bought off ebay for ~$15, or even cheaper from other sources.
It is the perfect companion, since the rigid arm holds the phone just firm enough. It cleanly connects to fm. And charges it simultaneously.
Here's one for example: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/FM-Trans...Accessories&hash=item20c69cb619#ht_3654wt_905
After looking for it for many hours, I can't find a suitable one for androids.
For once, I am jelly over Apple's monopoly of its proprietary connector.
Any good solutions you guys know of?

Why would you bother, just buy radio with aux and a stand.

dawids2k8 said:
Why would you bother, just buy radio with aux and a stand.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Wow, this was your first post on xda, I'm honored.
The thing is, I'm not planning on keeping this car for too many years... so a new head-unit will be a little pointless and expensive. Another thing, there is a separate display unit which pairs with the headunit...so removing it will stuff that up (which is handy for quick time and temperature).
It plays CD's but I don't have any cd's...they're all digital media.
I know I'm not the only one with an Android phone who has this problem, so a solution is out there.
Anyways, I found these solutions on ebay:
1) Bought, tested, its useless. Cables float everywhere. Costs ~$5.
Picture: http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/ab314/youkeshu/youkeshu-7/AA404_5-ALL.jpg
2)Then I found this one, costs ~$11, also suffers from the same noise distortion. Again cables galore!
Picture: http://cdn1.sellerimage.com/cdn2/120802/9e/78/f4/fmt-uni023_1_cc.jpg
3) I found this. Its just like the first crappy one. This one I haven't bought and tested, it may actually work well. But again cables galore!
Picture: http://i867.photobucket.com/albums/ab238/ebay510/home and garden/CBA00031-1.jpg
4) Okay I found this a working solution. The seller contacted me said it doesn't have the noise problem like the other options and backs it up with a full refund. Sad part is it costs ~$45...and what makes it worse is that the cables are still hanging about but at least not as much as the solutions prior to this.
Picture: http://gomadic.us/imgs-prod/fmt/samsung-galaxy-2-car-auto-charger-fm-transmitter.jpg

I finally found a (2yo?) thread in Google where they were discussing the same thing for the original Droid.
Anyways, I found a link to it on Amazon but it was discontinued.
Luckily enough, it was "related" to another product which led me to find this:
http://www.amazon.com/GOgroove-Flex...?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1339419456&sr=1-39
Same as the iPhone dock, only costs double the price. Instead of Apple connector, its a microUSB.
edit:
Hold on, found this. Same product (moreless) but $18
http://www.amazon.com/Accessory-Pow...?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1339419702&sr=1-19
edit:
Okay now its pouring in, found an even cheaper one ($13) lol.
http://www.amazon.com/GSI-Dock-Moun...-Smartphones/dp/B004006L7W/ref=pd_sim_sbs_e_2

Okay, so there was more to this story than I thought. Wondering how I couldn't find any in the sea of thousands of other (mostly iphone) fm transmitters.
Anyways, back on ebay and finally found this:
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/17083475...X:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649#ht_3398wt_1270
Same as the other ones (~$20) but ships Internationally so anyone can get a hold of it.
It looks to be too small to fit the beast, and the seller hasn't responded back to my message.
But another seller has.
And no, the clamps maximum width is 80mm. We need at least 83mm, or ~90mm (comfortably) to clamp the note. But I have good news from the seller:
"But we will list another item which will fit for your Samsung NOTE,
Please come back to our shop 10 days later,or I can notice you when we list the item."
"Ok,I will let you know when we get new model.
Please don't worry,we have professional Technician?"
I'll keep this thread updated once I get my hands on it.
(ps I broke my windshield mount the other day, so hopefully 2-angry-birds-1-stone)

just to let u know, transmitters/holders that plugs into the cigarette lighter last a week max.
once the rubber that that goes into the cigarette light wears out, its all over, it wont stay up.

werks said:
just to let u know, transmitters/holders that plugs into the cigarette lighter last a week max.
once the rubber that that goes into the cigarette light wears out, its all over, it wont stay up.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for the input.
I'm going to try anyway and give a review. It shouldn't cost much $15-$30 so the burden wouldn't be great.
And if it does fall apart, I'm planning on modifying it so it becomes a windshield mount.
That way I can have eyes on the road, and glanceable navigation... while having music from car speakers and hands-free phone function. The Ultimate Road Warrior! xD

this is what i would do if i werent to invest in a head unit.
www.firesport.com.au, buy a 2nd hand amp for cheap.
connect the amp to speakers.
connect the note directly to amp via cheapo 3.5mm to aux cable.
sound quality will be 10x better than transmitter lol.
migrate amp to next car

werks said:
this is what i would do if i werent to invest in a head unit.
www.firesport.com.au, buy a 2nd hand amp for cheap.
connect the amp to speakers.
connect the note directly to amp via cheapo 3.5mm to aux cable.
sound quality will be 10x better than transmitter lol.
migrate amp to next car
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks.
Of course the advantage of the ebay item is that its too easy to setup and can work in literally all cars. And the unit is still purposeful even if the fm isn't transmitting (ie phone holder + charger).
And you will definitely get x10 better sound via a wired solution.
I'm tempted to try both methods, not much to lose.
For now I just have to wait and see the item description when its up and report back.

The problem is the head unit in some cars, such as mine, are built in and cannot actually be changed our it's a big job. I was still using my Nokia N8 for music duties untill last week as it has a transmitter built in, but I've just gotten a Belkin from Amazon and it's superb. Still has to be plugged into the cigarette lighter but I don't mind that.

FlamingGoat said:
The problem is the head unit in some cars, such as mine, are built in and cannot actually be changed our it's a big job. I was still using my Nokia N8 for music duties untill last week as it has a transmitter built in, but I've just gotten a Belkin from Amazon and it's superb. Still has to be plugged into the cigarette lighter but I don't mind that.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you're into a bit of soldering, I have successfully added aux into older cassette deck stereos and my DAB stereo clock radio.
Basically, you open up the head unit/radio, google the chip numbers, find a datasheet. Only one of them will be some kind of mixer/preamp/processing chip. Find the pins that are the input L/R and ground. Then solder a 3.5mm stereo lead in. Close it up, plug in your phone, hey presto, AUX in! And better than any FM transmitter.
On the cassette radio, I just wired in to the cassette audio input and disconnected the tape motors. On my clock radio, I added a 2 pole 2 way switch to toggle between the tuner input and my phone. Later I'll add a bluetooth input to get rid of the slight noise hum when my phone is charging.

I bought one,but broken one.

china2834 said:
I bought one,but broken one.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Which one?
Can you link it for us.
I got a response from another seller, and one from local. They won't be getting it.
Its been 6 days since I received the email from one seller who said they will get NOTE compatible models (hopefully 90mm wide, so NOTE with case can also fit).
So there's another 4 days until he will respond back to me with the link, and then probably a week or two until I can test it.
Getting excited!

I know you said you wouldnt be keeping this car long but imho you would be much better served changing your head unit to one with bluetooth. You can find used ones in great condition shipped on ebay for$100. Installation time is under an hour. Trust me its worth it. My head (eclipse cd5030) automatically connects to my phone as soon as i start the car. No wires, just press play. And also, it has a usb plug for charging it.
Sent from my GT-N7000 using Tapatalk 2

That's a good idea.
My options seem to be:
-FM transmitter/dock
-Change head unit for Bluetooth (break the overhead display and car cpu though)
-Change head unit for AUX in (break the overhead display and car cpu though)
-Install a low-powered/cheap amplifier with an AUX in.
Here's the inside of my car (though not so new, heh):
The head unit (ie CD slot and music controls) is located in the middle of the centre-console.
The actual display for it is displayed higher up on the centre-console.
The display is also wired into the car, if the engine runs out of power for a second, it locks and needs the password. Same thing if I jump start someone.
If I can install a new head-unit without stuffing up the relay going between the display and car cpu, I'd be all set... I wished I was more experienced in this field
Anyways, I've already decided on my next car, so I better start saving now:

I may be wrong buddy but i believe that your stock equipment is set up for an optional CD changer from the factory so there will be an option for an auxiliary input..
What you need to do is call an aftermarket car audio supplier and ask about a 3rd party wiring loom, more than likely they will have a plug in solution for it..

bazrippa said:
I may be wrong buddy but i believe that your stock equipment is set up for an optional CD changer from the factory so there will be an option for an auxiliary input..
What you need to do is call an aftermarket car audio supplier and ask about a 3rd party wiring loom, more than likely they will have a plug in solution for it..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I agree with that,
Kangal,
Most of the car stereos have port to get AUX out behind. An audio shop can use this to get a 3.5 mm female port

A new quality brand like pioneer car stereo with aux on the front is about $45 NZ these days. Problem solved. And you never know your stereo may have line in in the back you could use.
Sent from my GT-N7000 using xda app-developers app

I have the same problem as you.
My solution requires the following equipment :
1. Jabra SB600 car hands free
2. Original Samsung car dock for Note.
You basically pair your Note with Jabra via bluetooth and the Jabra transmits the audio via FM to your car radio. Simple, clean, no wire solution. Music and calls play via your car speakers and the Jabra's DSP does a fantastic job to cut out ambient noise in a moving car.
The sound quality is decent. Probably not the very best, but bearable. And more importantly, it gets the task done without any extra wires and stuff. Consider it a trade-off between ripping out / modding your car stereo and making no changes at all.
Though the Jabra's price may be a bit steep, it is a better bet if you consider it against replacing your stereo or spending the time (and taking the risk) on modding it.
Sent from my GT-N7000 using xda app-developers app

I'm assuming that not a whole lot of people here are really into cars. I am really into modding my car and one aspect of that is audio. I love car audio and have a moderately nice system in my car. I can say that if you're looking for a good way to integrate your phone as your main source of media, then perhaps a new head unit would be a great upgrade for both your media and for your car.
Some people may be on a tight budget, and if so then the previously mentioned solutions may be the only options viable to you, but if you are willing to branch out and see what you can do with your ICE (in car entertainment), then you may find something that you might want to invest in.
So what are the options? You can use a wired fm transmitter, and as people have mentioned, you're dealing with wires and such. You also have wireless fm transmitters, which eliminates your wiring, and your results don't stray far from the wired transmitters in terms of sound quality. If you're willing to upgrade your headunit, then you have two options, single dins which is the base tier headunit. It has most, if not all, of the features your stock headunit has, and a few extras. If it is equipped with bluetooth, you can send/make calls from the headunit, but most single dins don't solve your audio needs in this way. What you want to look for is if it equipped with USB, so you can connect your phone via USB and play your music that way. Yes it does involve wiring, but there have been many ways to tie in a nice docking station for your phone to really make it appealing to many users. Double dins are almost always touchscreen type headunits and are a great way to upgrade your system. They have many more features that single dins will not have, such as GPS, movie viewing, etc. These types of headunits will follow single dins in that you will be wiring your phone via USB to source your music. I think there may be some double dins that are capable of bluetooth audio but I am not totally sure as mine does not have that feature as a 2011 model from Alpine.
W W W[dot]thebizzy[dot]com/technical_pages/thebizzy/audio/ipod2.jpg
Here is an example of how many users like to mount their phones/ipods/etc.
I will say that the benefit of a wired connection over a fm transmitted connection is that the sound quality is so much better. Music is much more crisp and clean with none of that distortion. Granted your overall sound quality will be determined by the quality of your speakers, but the differences from a USB connection and an fm transmitted connection are really noticeable.
So think about what your budget is and what you really want in your car audio system/integration. I went with a double din because the features are just spectacular. I do want to note though, that a headunit does not make your car system sound better, you need to upgrade your speakers, amps, subwoofers, etc. The main purpose for a new headunit is features. For me, I went with the double din because of benefits such as GPS, bluetooth (syncs my entire phonebook so I can just search for people whom I need to contact, shows recent call logs, auto answering for incoming calls), better interface when selecting music (it can utilize the entire interface of the ipod giving me access to movies, artists, playlists, genres, etc.), and overall ease of use.
So to conclude I'd recommend you find out what you want, and what your budget is, and start a project because my daily commute is worlds better than what it used to be because I made my upgrade happen. If you have any questions about ICE then feel free to ask.

Sata header on 16GB model for internal HDD [nVidia Shield Android TV]

So, barring software compatibility, it seems possible to put an internal laptop HDD into the shield non pro-model.
The biggest issue is that the shield pro has a ribbon cable and mounting point soldered onto the secondary board that the regular 16gb model does not.
16GB model:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
500GB PRO model (image credit user takitoes ):

if you're trying to effectively solder to sata point on the board, better break out the fume hood. i fancy myself pretty handy with a soldering iron - i've pulled off a few JTAG and RGH installations in 360's, but that's not something i think i could do.

Part sourcing
I'm going to actually attempt this when I get my system finished with it's setup.
The parts I'm working with will be a 20pin FFC lobsterclaw from mouser:
<can't do outside links yet, search for: XF2M-2015-1A on mouser.com>
And from ebay an FFC to female sata header, although all I'm seeing now are male and I'm not sure how much clearance I've got inside since I didn't open mine yet.
Other than that, since it looks like there are no pitfalls to be encountered in proprietary pinout or extra circuitry, I'll toss my hat in and give it a try and post the results
Since the pro 500's pic is small there, can anyone tell which orientation pin 1 is, or maybe a larger picture of the adapter.

edit: can delete.

still need the photo
Puglife said:
I'm going to actually attempt this when I get my system finished with it's setup.
The parts I'm working with will be a 20pin FFC lobsterclaw from mouser:
<can't do outside links yet, search for: XF2M-2015-1A on mouser.com>
And from ebay an FFC to female sata header, although all I'm seeing now are male and I'm not sure how much clearance I've got inside since I didn't open mine yet.
Other than that, since it looks like there are no pitfalls to be encountered in proprietary pinout or extra circuitry, I'll toss my hat in and give it a try and post the results
Since the pro 500's pic is small there, can anyone tell which orientation pin 1 is, or maybe a larger picture of the adapter.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
still need the photo

photo of adapter
I can't seem to find a close up photo of the adapter anywhere at all.
Since I bought the 16GB, and I don't know anyone else with a 500, it'd be great if someone could share a nice high res photo of the adapter cable.
I can put the ffc connector on there, and assume that the orientation is correct since I'm sourcing the same type of ffc connector with the claw to the back, but since I'm not keen on burning out a hdd by doing a reverse sata hookup and sending power into the data port, I'd rather not move forward without a picture.
I suppose I can probe out the pins once I have an ffc cable in there.... ugh.

Just for informations, nothing special. I appreciate your work.
From Android M every external HD or external sd card can expand your real internal storage. And it work very very well. We also have usb 3 so it can be also better.
I already tested this functionality on the Nexus Player and i assure you that will solve all your problems also with a bad read / write external storage.
For the moment i use the app foldermount that can save all my apps and games on an external sd card.

I have no doubt Google has the storage situation addressed in M, but who knows if M will ever make it to the shield outside of a custom rom. I like the way the device works now, that's the only reason I'm investing time into it, when I ignored all the other devices.
So far, this device alone is reducing my electric bill by replacing a noisy full desktop that I was using to run XBMC, I found the Pi to be too underpowered for my needs.
Shame that each new android revision is snubbed by most manufacturers in order to sell new hardware, but that's the lifecycle of electronics.

Puglife said:
Shame that each new android revision is snubbed by most manufacturers in order to sell new hardware, but that's the lifecycle of electronics.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm hoping NVIDIA continues their method from the past as they're currently about to release an update to lollipop for the shield portable which was released on July 31rd, 2013 and shipped with Android Jellybean 4.2.1. If they continue this trend for the shield android tv, I expect we'll see android M on it

Puglife said:
I have no doubt Google has the storage situation addressed in M, but who knows if M will ever make it to the shield outside of a custom rom. I like the way the device works now, that's the only reason I'm investing time into it, when I ignored all the other devices.
So far, this device alone is reducing my electric bill by replacing a noisy full desktop that I was using to run XBMC, I found the Pi to be too underpowered for my needs.
Shame that each new android revision is snubbed by most manufacturers in order to sell new hardware, but that's the lifecycle of electronics.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Considering how good nvidia has been about bringing updates so far and the fact that they keep their systems almost fully stock, I have faith we'll have M before the end of the year (within a month or two of M being released)
Sent from my Nexus 6 using XDA Free mobile app

Im in to see progress of this mod
:good:

Something I'm curious about here. Can someone on the 16GB model boot my twrp build and see if /sys/devices/platform/tegra-sata.0 exists? I expect it will be and that means that this mod is possible. Though, it would be somewhat of a hack to chainload the boot to a sata hdd.
I've been doing some research on the opposite. On the pro model, the emmc is actually there, but is flat zeros (like binary diffing a dd of it and a dd of the same size from /dev/zero returns no differences). So it appears to me that the bootloaders (like pre fastboot bootloader) are looking at the internal media specific to the model. Like I said above, it should be possible to chainload back and forth. But for me, I'll likely just format and mount the unused emmc for extra storage (and likely faster r/w). Also, standard disclaimer that I haven't tried this yet, so don't blame me if you try something and it perma-bricks your device.

Puglife said:
I can't seem to find a close up photo of the adapter anywhere at all.
Since I bought the 16GB, and I don't know anyone else with a 500, it'd be great if someone could share a nice high res photo of the adapter cable.
I can put the ffc connector on there, and assume that the orientation is correct since I'm sourcing the same type of ffc connector with the claw to the back, but since I'm not keen on burning out a hdd by doing a reverse sata hookup and sending power into the data port, I'd rather not move forward without a picture.
I suppose I can probe out the pins once I have an ffc cable in there.... ugh.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Pics attached. Hope it helps

r3zon8 said:
Pics attached. Hope it helps
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Damn, the entire cable is matte black, I was hoping I could figure out the orientation of the pins. I suppose I can guess based on that if the pins are straight through, but it looks like there's 22 total pins in a sata connection and 20 in the FFC connector.
Any chance you can give me a really close zoom of the conductive end of the FFC cable that plugs into the board so I can see if they skip pins or combine pins to isolate the signal?
Status update: I'm still waiting for the SATA board from china/ebay to assemble this, in theory I can just use a soldered off header from a junk board like ps3, or something to do this, but I wanted a clean solution with as few parts/wires as possible so it fits neatly inside.
More than likely by the time I assemble something, Ebayers will probably be posting a "replacement" cable for it.
I did already get the FFC connector installed, that was a piece of cake. I'll take pictures of it as soon as my wife stops watching Mad Men on netflix.
My hopes for this are just more addressable internal storage, not necessarily being able to boot off the hard drive.

let me know, with a closer look at the board, i think i could handle that soldering job

Did that project go anywhere? I'm very interested in doing this also if is worked.

I might be super lazy but is this cheaper and easier than just buying the pro model? What benefit does this have over going pro?

You can add in an ssd potentially that's bigger than 16gb and therefor better performance. It would also cost less if you were me and have a 120gb ssd laying around.

Has anyone addressed the issues with getting the hard drive partitions to be recognized by any software/OS and cloning the drive? This would seem to me to be the first step required before figuring out solder points, etc.
Sent from my SM-G900H using Tapatalk

Seeing as I and the OP have the non pro, would be harder for us. That being said, I don't want it to replace the 16gb is possible, so even if it's not bootable no biggy as long as it sees it and I can put files an there.

Recommendations for android head

I have a 2007 Ford Focus
I am willing to spend 300 €
- The features I need are:
1024x600
16GB ROM / RAM 1GB or 2GB (which I see only Ownice has 2GB variant)
DVD / CD
Cable iPod Connector (not important but would use again my old iPod)
PD: I also read that Joying update to Lollipop and I see XTRONS already have models available with 5.1
(In case you buy from another dealer or another manufacturer)
Could change the rom?

xtrons support suck ....the unit is ok but if you have any question you will get same answer ¨send it back¨

I have Pumpkin HU which meets all your requirements, except the resolution is 800 x 480.
Do an Amazon Search for: Pumpkin 6.95" Quad Core Android 4.4 Universal In Dash Touch Screen Car DVD Player Double Din GPS Navigation Stereo AM FM Radio Support 3G/Wifi/OBD2/1080P/DVR/Mirror-link with Backup Camera
It has:
7" touch screen.
Navigation
Micro SD support
2x USB cable input
DVD player.
Android 4.4.4
Quad-core RK3188 CPU
This is made by Klyde, I think. (Someone correct me if I'm wrong here).
Overall it works well. It's responsive and boots in about 10-15 seconds. I'm still screwing with the wiring, and I've had it in for a few days. Very nice overall.
I haven't tinkered with the ROM's yet, but that will be next, I need root support.

I've been happy with Joying. The sound is not nearly the compromise that I expected it to be. Boots quickly, 5.1 runs well, etc etc.

Any model having fastboot within 5 secons?

I like my Eanon GA2114. Rk3188, 1gb, 800x480. The picture is clear and the audio is decent. 2 rear USB, one front, microsd , 16gb on board. It looks almost like a factory head unit.
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Sent from my SM-N900T using Tapatalk

wolfchan said:
Any model having fastboot within 5 secons?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Unfortunately not. You'd be hard-pressed to get that even with a modern phone.
If these stereo's had more powerful processors, like a SnapDragon 800 series or so, you'd get a lot closer to what you want; as it stands, you're stuck with a 10-25 second boot up.
I've have had mine in for a week, and I'm getting used to it. Just don't overload your stereo with a boatload of apps and you ought to be fine.
Also, do the root procedure and install AdAway from FDroid. Cutting out ads keeps your phone - and now your stereo - from getting too slow with junk scripting or malvertising. It's simply good common sense these days.
---------- Post added at 12:14 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:09 AM ----------
pyraxiate said:
I like my Eanon GA2114. Rk3188, 1gb, 800x480. The picture is clear and the audio is decent. 2 rear USB, one front, microsd , 16gb on board. It looks almost like a factory head unit.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It looks nice, and ironically the OS layout is about the same as my Pumpkin.
The only reason why I didn't spring for that style is it has no DVD player. I do like the volume knob, much more convenient, I'd rather have that if I could get it with a larger screen.
But after getting the larger 7" touch screen, ironically I've come to realize that I really don't need the DVD like I thought I would.
Oh well, it's all good. The difference in navigation between a 6.2" screen and a 7" screen isn't all that massive. I'm just glad I have navigation now - through Waze - otherwise an OEM head unit with nav would be north of $800 to install. These devices are a much better value.

My SUV has a DVD player built in for the kids ( Chrysler VES ). I ran the wires to it but haven't hooked it up yet. Is rather the larger screen than another DVD player personally. Also, all my kids movies have been digitized anyway for iPods / etc.
Sent from my SM-N900T using Tapatalk

My JY unit boots up in 8 seconds, not now as i have a custom ROM and a bunch of extra apps that are started at boot.

Boot In 5 Seconds
wolfchan said:
Any model having fastboot within 5 secons?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I wanted the same so I have piggy-backed the ACC line onto the permanently live line. This means that the head unit is live with the ignition off so you shut down the unit with the volume/on/off button. I did post a question about this asking if there were any possible detrimental effects by doing this but got no replies so I just went ahead anyway.
I cut the live line then ran a supply cable to an isolating switch via an in line fuse then connected a cable to the head unit side of the ACC line from the other side of the switch so that I can do a full power down and reboot on a regular basis. I can also cut the power to the head unit if I need to leave the car parked for a couple of weeks at an airport for instance.
I've had no problems, the head unit goes into sleep mode, all peripherals shut down, USB ports power down and the current draw with the head unit switched off is 1.4 milliamps (2.4 on mine because I have external amplifiers). Boot is almost instant, just a couple of seconds to initiate DVR and scan SD and USB storage. Last used condition is re-established.
I've not heard of anyone else doing this yet and there could well be a reason for that so no guarantees but it seems to be working okay for me so far.
I hope this helps.

this Pumpkin unit says it has 2GB of RAM:
http://www.autopumpkin.com/car-dvd-...-gps-obd2-wifi-3g-steering-wheel-control.html
that's about the only one I see besides Ownice and the In-Dash.net ones.

Jefft5 said:
I wanted the same so I have piggy-backed the ACC line onto the permanently live line. This means that the head unit is live with the ignition off so you shut down the unit with the volume/on/off button. I did post a question about this asking if there were any possible detrimental effects by doing this but got no replies so I just went ahead anyway.
I cut the live line then ran a supply cable to an isolating switch via an in line fuse then connected a cable to the head unit side of the ACC line from the other side of the switch so that I can do a full power down and reboot on a regular basis. I can also cut the power to the head unit if I need to leave the car parked for a couple of weeks at an airport for instance.
I've had no problems, the head unit goes into sleep mode, all peripherals shut down, USB ports power down and the current draw with the head unit switched off is 1.4 milliamps (2.4 on mine because I have external amplifiers). Boot is almost instant, just a couple of seconds to initiate DVR and scan SD and USB storage. Last used condition is re-established.
I've not heard of anyone else doing this yet and there could well be a reason for that so no guarantees but it seems to be working okay for me so far.
I hope this helps.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm looking to do that same thing, so I'll follow your lead.
I have in mind using a battery isolator and a separate 18 Amp-Hour battery pulled from an old uninterruptible power supply. That way, any discharge of the stereo won't drain the main battery and the auxiliary battery will only be charged by the alternator once the main battery is full. That's the theory, anyways.
BTW, the Malaysk ROM has a power off / reboot option built into the upper status bar. There is also a power off / reboot app you could install from FDroid, but you'd need root access.
I'll let you know how it goes.

For what it's worth, i have the ga2114 from eanon and even with 1gb ram it doesn't lag at all. I'm using boroondocks rom but even stock was fluid. Rk3188, 1gb, 16gb storage.
Sent from my SM-N900T using Tapatalk

CaptShaft said:
I'm looking to do that same thing, so I'll follow your lead.
I have in mind using a battery isolator and a separate 18 Amp-Hour battery pulled from an old uninterruptible power supply. That way, any discharge of the stereo won't drain the main battery and the auxiliary battery will only be charged by the alternator once the main battery is full. That's the theory, anyways.
BTW, the Malaysk ROM has a power off / reboot option built into the upper status bar. There is also a power off / reboot app you could install from FDroid, but you'd need root access.
I'll let you know how it goes.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi CapShaft, thanks for your reply,
It looks like we're working along the same lines, I was looking at fitting a 12v Yuasa motorcycle battery to keep the head unit powered and putting a relay in the permanently live line activated by the ignition switch. So no drain on the main battery with the ignition off and the standby (Yuasa) battery will recharge with the ignition on and the motor running. Nice to know I'm not the only one that finds the boot up time to be a pain! lol.

Jefft5 said:
Hi CapShaft, thanks for your reply,
It looks like we're working along the same lines, I was looking at fitting a 12v Yuasa motorcycle battery to keep the head unit powered and putting a relay in the permanently live line activated by the ignition switch. So no drain on the main battery with the ignition off and the standby (Yuasa) battery will recharge with the ignition on and the motor running. Nice to know I'm not the only one that finds the boot up time to be a pain! lol.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That will work as well. I have a battery isolator relay here if you want it for $10. I had purchased it first, but then changed my mind and picked up a solid-state isolator. It's unused.
http://www.amazon.com/Stinger-SGP38-80-AMP-Battery-Isolator/dp/B001HC6UJ0/
This is what it is. Let me know.
Anyways, I just got the 4-conductor wire this morning, so I can run the wires to the battery box / isolator unit in the trunk. That way it's out of the way, and not in the passenger cabin at all, for safety reasons.
The boot-up time on these stereos is atrocious, frankly, and it's no different with some older smartphones. When you get the custom RoM and a few xPosed modules and a few needed add-on's like Waze, then it takes almost a minute before you really have everything up and running, even after the boot animation is done.
I found a speedtest comparison between the RK3188 and various other android processors out there, this is what it looks like:
http://www.androidbenchmark.net/phone.php?phone=Rockchip+rk3188
So if you look, it's like the fastest processor is about 1/3rd [31.1%] slower than a Galaxy S4 from a few years ago.
I sure hope the super-fast RK processors come out soon and are comparable with, say, the latest i3 or SnapDragon 820 CPU's. Then we wouldn't have this problem!

CaptShaft said:
That will work as well. I have a battery isolator relay here if you want it for $10. I had purchased it first, but then changed my mind and picked up a solid-state isolator. It's unused.
http://www.amazon.com/Stinger-SGP38-80-AMP-Battery-Isolator/dp/B001HC6UJ0/
This is what it is. Let me know.
Anyways, I just got the 4-conductor wire this morning, so I can run the wires to the battery box / isolator unit in the trunk. That way it's out of the way, and not in the passenger cabin at all, for safety reasons.
The boot-up time on these stereos is atrocious, frankly, and it's no different with some older smartphones. When you get the custom RoM and a few xPosed modules and a few needed add-on's like Waze, then it takes almost a minute before you really have everything up and running, even after the boot animation is done.
I found a speedtest comparison between the RK3188 and various other android processors out there, this is what it looks like:
http://www.androidbenchmark.net/phone.php?phone=Rockchip+rk3188
So if you look, it's like the fastest processor is about 1/3rd [31.1%] slower than a Galaxy S4 from a few years ago.
I sure hope the super-fast RK processors come out soon and are comparable with, say, the latest i3 or SnapDragon 820 CPU's. Then we wouldn't have this problem!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah, I had an Eonon EN1026 before which I bought in 2007, great unit and never any trouble but unfortunately it was Windows CE quick enough to boot but not easy to upgrade which is why I've gone for the GA2114 with Android.
Anyway, thanks for the offer on the isolator but I'm already on the road with the relay version. I am attaching a couple of circuit diagrams showing the ignition on and ignition off status. The relays are in default with ignition off which effectively isolates the main battery from the auxiliary battery and the auxiliary circuit is fused so it should be pretty well failsafe.
First time I've tried attachments on this forum so don't know if I've got it right! :fingers-crossed: lol

Let's Talk About the Joying JY-UL135

So, this is one part commentary/review(ish), one part questions. Let's talk about this dude. So, I had a Pioneer DVD unit in my 2003 F-150 that I was really unhappy with (for several reasons I won't bother explaining). Being a bit of a tech geek, I really wanted something better, that wouldn't require an extra add on unit for navigation, and would give me a little flexibility wherever I wanted it. I was really surprised that there wasn't a better selection of head units that run Android on the market, but being such, I found Joying pretty fast. I read a bunch on here, and decided it was worth throwing the dice and a few hours at. FWIW, I ordered off Amazon, and got the JY-UL135 unit (Android 5.1.1, 7" screen, 1024x600, 16GB, 1.6GHz quad core). It seems Joying has a couple slightly different units with basically the same specs for sale. I have no idea what distinguishes them besides a slightly different bezel setup. I *think* this is the newer one. Maybe. Who knows.
Thoughts and Comments
Trust the reviews. This unit is a tiny bit bigger than it should be. I don't know why. So be it. So was my Pioneer though, but this is about another 1/8" wider, so I'll need to barely widen my already modified mounting hole.
Soldering up the wiring harness was no trouble. Uncommonly used wires were neatly capped too.
The instructions, labels, and some of the in-system notifications are in pretty rough translated English. Not a big deal, but just be aware.
If you want to do a custom boot logo, for some reason it's hidden behind the Factory Settings, with the code 126 to access it.
Unit feels plenty fast and responsive, and the build quality is acceptable at the price.
Wifi connected right up.
I did have trouble connecting to my Bluetooth OBD2 reader, which seems to be a common complaint. I'm ordering a $10 one that matches the Elm327 unit Joying offers for $20. We'll see if it works.
I prefer OBD Fusion over Torque, personally. Once the above is resolved, I'm interested to see how it compares on the unit.
Included GPS antenna has plenty of length, and seems to get a signal without issue.
I grounded the brake sensor wire right to the chassis ground line to bypass it, need to confirm that works.
Was able to pretty closely match the backlight color to the rest of my dash.
Going to use an old Micro SD card to try storing offline Google Maps data for those cellular black hole areas I travel to.
Also planning to get a dashcam to try out the DVR functionality. You never know when that could be $35 well spent.
Audio seems okay. Not great, but acceptable for my use. I do have one speaker not working that I need to diagnose. And I don't currently have an amp/sub, but do think I'll add a small one down the road.
Overall, I'm not in love with the launcher installed on it.
I still need to test phone mirroring, connecting via tethering to my phone's hotspot for nav data, install my backup camera, modify my external mic connector to be compatible with the input,
Questions for the Hive Mind
Does anyone know if these newer units benefit from the audio hack/mod discussed elsewhere?
Rooting. Do it, or no? If so, what's your preferred process?
What's your opinion on different launchers?
The Factory Settings menu appears to have quite a bit of stuff in it. Anything besides the boot logo really worth paying attention to?

i recently got the Jeep specific one from Amazon, Joying 5.1, should be the same stuff.
Pretty happy so far, I downloaded my city in Google Maps, but I didn't see an option to save it to a micro sd card. I didn't have to solder anything since I got vehicle specific, all plug and play. Also I used an adapter to use the Jeeps existing GPS. Fit and finish seems pretty top notch on mine, at least for the physical buttons.
I was considering rooting to try to do Apps2SD or something, I just want my Google Play Music playlists downloaded. I can do it, but it fills up the memory, and I dont have the option to put it on the micro sd card.
I was also confused by the Factory Settings options. There was an IPOD part listed as No. I changed it to YES and it gave me an ipod app, but it just immediately crashed, so I turned it back off.

CadillacMike said:
i recently got the Jeep specific one from Amazon, Joying 5.1, should be the same stuff.
Pretty happy so far, I downloaded my city in Google Maps, but I didn't see an option to save it to a micro sd card. I didn't have to solder anything since I got vehicle specific, all plug and play. Also I used an adapter to use the Jeeps existing GPS. Fit and finish seems pretty top notch on mine, at least for the physical buttons.
I was considering rooting to try to do Apps2SD or something, I just want my Google Play Music playlists downloaded. I can do it, but it fills up the memory, and I dont have the option to put it on the micro sd card.
I was also confused by the Factory Settings options. There was an IPOD part listed as No. I changed it to YES and it gave me an ipod app, but it just immediately crashed, so I turned it back off.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I didn't even actually realize they made brand specific models when I ordered mine, though I think outside of the wiring harness, that maybe doesn't matter. My truck is a 2003 too, so there really isn't anything in the way of fancy electronics in it to deal with, which probably helps.
I just got my backup cam mounted on my license plate, going out after work to wire it up hopefully. It's hot as hell here right now though, so we'll see how much I want to stay out there and do it with the sun still shining though.

CadillacMike said:
i recently got the Jeep specific one from Amazon, Joying 5.1, should be the same stuff.
Pretty happy so far, I downloaded my city in Google Maps, but I didn't see an option to save it to a micro sd card. I didn't have to solder anything since I got vehicle specific, all plug and play. Also I used an adapter to use the Jeeps existing GPS. Fit and finish seems pretty top notch on mine, at least for the physical buttons.
I was considering rooting to try to do Apps2SD or something, I just want my Google Play Music playlists downloaded. I can do it, but it fills up the memory, and I dont have the option to put it on the micro sd card.
I was also confused by the Factory Settings options. There was an IPOD part listed as No. I changed it to YES and it gave me an ipod app, but it just immediately crashed, so I turned it back off.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
IPOD I believe is quoted to not be working with that model.. How is the audio with the Jeep specific one? It looks just like the current 4.4 version and I was not sure if any hardware has changed. I was also looking at the 7in universal one that is mentioned by OP but wanted to know if it is better than the jeep specific one as far as audio hardware and sound. I know the screen size is smaller but was not sure if there is anything else. Any complaints so far on the 5.5 version of the Jeep one??

Airborne29th said:
IPOD I believe is quoted to not be working with that model.. How is the audio with the Jeep specific one? It looks just like the current 4.4 version and I was not sure if any hardware has changed. I was also looking at the 7in universal one that is mentioned by OP but wanted to know if it is better than the jeep specific one as far as audio hardware and sound. I know the screen size is smaller but was not sure if there is anything else. Any complaints so far on the 5.5 version of the Jeep one??
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I dont know anything about the 4.4 version. All i have is the 5.1 version, but i find that many complaints I read about these things are not evident in my version, so maybe stuff did change. For example people say you have to buy some antenna adapter, which I did not need, it had one in the box. FM radio sounds fine, although I dont listen to it. I just tried it so see what's up.
I have a 2016 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited, I had the 430N with the base audio. I had replaced the factory speakers with the Mopar Kicker upgrades. Sound is 100% better with the Joying.
I have a lot of details and pics here:
http://www.wranglerforum.com/f202/j...d-head-unit-joying-jeep-specific-1800113.html

I'm thinking about buying this head unit for my car, and I was wondering if anyone can give an input after a few months of usage.
What I'm worried about is the 1gb RAM , when there are new versions with 2GB of RAM
Do you think the 1GB is a deal breaker?
Thanks!

KamaL said:
I'm thinking about buying this head unit for my car, and I was wondering if anyone can give an input after a few months of usage.
What I'm worried about is the 1gb RAM , when there are new versions with 2GB of RAM
Do you think the 1GB is a deal breaker?
Thanks!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you dont mind things going slow, otherwise get the 2gb. Also, if you plan to use a dashcam and rexord, then def get a 2gb. I just ordered the UL135N2 this morning. Should get to my place in Wisconsin just after new years.

KamaL said:
I'm thinking about buying this head unit for my car, and I was wondering if anyone can give an input after a few months of usage.
What I'm worried about is the 1gb RAM , when there are new versions with 2GB of RAM
Do you think the 1GB is a deal breaker?
Thanks!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I upgraded the 1GB RAM unit I posted about earlier in this thread with a 2GB unit, it is night and day, no comparison, 2GB all the way

CadillacMike said:
I upgraded the 1GB RAM unit I posted about earlier in this thread with a 2GB unit, it is night and day, no comparison, 2GB all the way
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So, did you buy one 2gb ram model?
or replace with 1gb ram model??
I'm using 1gb ram model and I want to upgrade to 2gb ram.

Your F150 is a non-standard DIN fitting. It is about 2 mm too short (vertical face) for a standard 2-DIN head unit. No matter what unit you bought it will "appear" incorrect but it's really just Ford brilliantly coming up with their own size to be special.

David Choi said:
So, did you buy one 2gb ram model?
or replace with 1gb ram model??
I'm using 1gb ram model and I want to upgrade to 2gb ram.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I had a Jeep specific unit from Joying that was a MTCD, Android 5.1, and only 1GB of RAM. I loved it at the time.
I got a new unit. 8inch double din, Intel, and 2GB of RAM
I love the bigger screen, and the performance is no comparison

dunksalot said:
Your F150 is a non-standard DIN fitting. It is about 2 mm too short (vertical face) for a standard 2-DIN head unit. No matter what unit you bought it will "appear" incorrect but it's really just Ford brilliantly coming up with their own size to be special.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The Chinese units are not quite Double Din either. I know on the Jeep forums, every time someone puts in an American double din, people have to file things down to fit.
But when I put the Joying Double Din, it fit just fine, no filing required

CadillacMike said:
The Chinese units are not quite Double Din either. I know on the Jeep forums, every time someone puts in an American double din, people have to file things down to fit.
But when I put the Joying Double Din, it fit just fine, no filing required
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This is what you're looking for;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_7736
To summarize, USA double DIN = 7" x 4" (177.8mm x 101.6mm)
Metric double DIN = 180mm x 100mm (7.09" x 3.93").
In other words, the Metric double DIN is nearly 1/10th of an inch wider than a USA double DIN.
The Chinese head units are made to 178mm x 100mm for the UL135[N[2]] or 178mm x 102mm for the UL128[N[2]]. Don't ask me why they went for 102mm on the 128's. But essentially, the USA DDIN is just a little bit TOO NARROW for these head units, which seem to be targeting METRIC dimensions. Well, except for the 128's height, which is a bit closer to USA spec, but still marginally over.

Hello the team XDA,
I have mounted a joying UL-135 in a my car with a special harness.
I have a problem with the sleep mode. Head unit never shut down completely.
When a turn off the keycar, head unit shut down...then after few minutes, touch lights are shuting down too.
Then it's impossible to turn on the head unit.
After a night of parking, when i turn on the car, head unit start quickly to the previous postition without booting from Logo.
Do you have a solution ? i have tried to enter in the developer menu but it needs a password and i dont have it ?

waloof said:
Hello the team XDA,
I have mounted a joying UL-135 in a my car with a special harness.
I have a problem with the sleep mode. Head unit never shut down completely.
When a turn off the keycar, head unit shut down...then after few minutes, touch lights are shuting down too.
Then it's impossible to turn on the head unit.
After a night of parking, when i turn on the car, head unit start quickly to the previous postition without booting from Logo.
Do you have a solution ? i have tried to enter in the developer menu but it needs a password and i dont have it ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Is it a UL135? Or is it a UL135N or UL135N2? The latter two will deep sleep when the ignition is turned off, allowing them to start up *instantly* when the power is resumed. Your description of device behavior is consistent with N[2] units. In fact, I'm not even sure it is possible for a UL135 to do what you describe, since if it wasn't shutting down, the screen would remain on.

sorry it's the JY-UL135N

Anyone been able to root the UL135? I don't have the factory settings menu.. So I have no idea what to do..