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USB OTG Adapter

Has anyone been able to find a USB-OTG adapter for the Galaxy Nexus similar to the USB adapter for the Galaxy Tab (pictured below), i.e. one that's just a compact adapter without a cable between the two sides?
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Check amazon... they have otg cables on there without the cable. Its kinda bulky though.
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Can't that OTG for the Tab work?

Shamrock13 said:
Can't that OTG for the Tab work?
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No! The galaxy tab does not use micro USB, it has a proprietary cable system somewhat like apple ipod
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http://www.amazon.com/NOKIA-CA-157-Adapter-cable-Nokia/dp/B0050LO0QE
i just use the one that came with the nokia n8, works just fine

Alpha Class said:
http://www.amazon.com/NOKIA-CA-157-Adapter-cable-Nokia/dp/B0050LO0QE
i just use the one that came with the nokia n8, works just fine
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You use that one with the Galaxy Nexus?
Looks like it has a MicroUSB-A plug, which shouldn't fit into the Galaxy Nexus's MicroUSB-B port.

Chirality said:
You use that one with the Galaxy Nexus?
Looks like it has a MicroUSB-A plug, which shouldn't fit into the Galaxy Nexus's MicroUSB-B port.
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correct, just trim the corners, 2 sec job

I bought a 2$ cable from dealextreme for the Galaxy S2. You can find them at the same price on ebay... they work fine, tested with a USB pen and a SIXAXIS.
Now waiting for franco to update his kernel with the NTFS module to try out my external HDD.

Alpha Class said:
correct, just trim the corners, 2 sec job
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Trim the corners on the cable? Or the GN?

Chirality said:
Trim the corners on the cable? Or the GN?
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on the cable itself
mind you i did this simply because i had the cable lying around and it wasn't being used
its only a suggestion for the cheap among us , i suppose if i had to buy a cable, i'd just plop down for the micro b

is there a usb otg cable capable of allowing charge and being the host at the same time? or is it even possible? i'm reading mixed results on this. that it is possible and it's not. i want to scream.

pukemon said:
is there a usb otg cable capable of allowing charge and being the host at the same time? or is it even possible? i'm reading mixed results on this. that it is possible and it's not. i want to scream.
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What you are looking for is a USB Accessory Charger Adapter, which exists in the USB spec but does not seem to actually exist in physical form.

Chirality said:
What you are looking for is a USB Accessory Charger Adapter, which exists in the USB spec but does not seem to actually exist in physical form.
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so what you are implying is a usb accessory that is kind of passive but allows charging, and if you boink it with another micro usb accessory, usb otg cable here, that it will allow the necessary usb spec for otg also? hmmm...

pukemon said:
so what you are implying is a usb accessory that is kind of passive but allows charging, and if you boink it with another micro usb accessory, usb otg cable here, that it will allow the necessary usb spec for otg also? hmmm...
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No, what it is is a special USB OTG adapter that has three connectors, a micro USB plug to plug into the host device, a USB socket to plug in the peripheral device, and a micro USB socket to plug in a charger. It also supplies a special resistance on the ID pin to the host device to let it know that a charger is connected so the host does not supply a voltage on the VBUS. Without this special adapter with the ID pin resistance, the host will supply a voltage to power the peripheral which will not work with the charger on the VBUS. Thus this special adapter is needed. This is defined in the USB OTG and Battery Charging specs, but so far it doesn't seem like anyone is manufacturing such a thing.

Chirality said:
Has anyone been able to find a USB-OTG adapter for the Galaxy Nexus similar to the USB adapter for the Galaxy Tab (pictured below), i.e. one that's just a compact adapter without a cable between the two sides?
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Here http://www.dealextreme.com/p/micro-usb-on-the-go-host-otg-adapter-pair-50774

Chirality said:
No, what it is is a special USB OTG adapter that has three connectors, a micro USB plug to plug into the host device, a USB socket to plug in the peripheral device, and a micro USB socket to plug in a charger. It also supplies a special resistance on the ID pin to the host device to let it know that a charger is connected so the host does not supply a voltage on the VBUS. Without this special adapter with the ID pin resistance, the host will supply a voltage to power the peripheral which will not work with the charger on the VBUS. Thus this special adapter is needed. This is defined in the USB OTG and Battery Charging specs, but so far it doesn't seem like anyone is manufacturing such a thing.
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Would anybody be able to help make a cable to allow this functionality? I have Muscular Dystrophy and want to use my HTC Evo 3D with the specialized HID USB mouse emulator that's integrated into my wheelchair. This is how I control my desktop PC.
Because I also use the mouse emulator and voice recognition the battery life of the phone isn't that great. I would like to power the phone with a cigarette lighter adapter plugged into my chair.
Thanks!

IT doesnt work on HTC phones. I tried a gew hours ago, since nkbody knew i was forced to buy myself a usb otg cable. Plugged it in the Sensation, and a logitech G35 on the other side. no result, tried with regular usb stick still no result
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What file system are you guys using?
I can't seem to get the phone to read exFAT.
Also can't find ext4 drivers for Windows
FAT32 is not an option since the movies I want to watch are over 4gb.

derkgates said:
Would anybody be able to help make a cable to allow this functionality? I have Muscular Dystrophy and want to use my HTC Evo 3D with the specialized HID USB mouse emulator that's integrated into my wheelchair. This is how I control my desktop PC.
Because I also use the mouse emulator and voice recognition the battery life of the phone isn't that great. I would like to power the phone with a cigarette lighter adapter plugged into my chair.
Thanks!
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I'll try to do some research and tests and try to make something to help you and other people with similar needs!

I can mount ntfs with "USB Host Controller v0.44" app and 3.0.8-franco.Kernel R140 kernel.

USB type C cable

Hello
I want to know that can I rely on third party USB type C cables or should buy only the original one??
Third party cable: boat USB type C cable
As there are chances of damages to your phone while using third party accessories
Thanks

I have the same issue. While I don't mind buying the stock cable, I wanna know if other cables can be used? There was some issue I had seen regarding resistors or something.

cheekrox said:
I have the same issue. While I don't mind buying the stock cable, I wanna know if other cables can be used? There was some issue I had seen regarding resistors or something.
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The issue you are referring to was ironically with the stock OnePlus cable and not specifically third party ones. I've used reviews on Amazon as a good guide for an aftermarket cable.
sent from my OnePlus 2 using Tapatalk

Currently there is a Google engineer testing and reviewing all the type c cables on amazon. Go by his reviews and you will be sweet. The amount of cables his is giving bad reviews is incredible!
Here is the link to his reviews.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/pdp/profil...&tag=bradlindsdigi-20&linkId=WBRRE6BMGBMQCJLF
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crash_194 said:
The issue you are referring to was ironically with the stock OnePlus cable and not specifically third party ones. I've used reviews on Amazon as a good guide for an aftermarket cable.
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So which cable would you recommend, if any?

I bought this almost two months ago, no problems so far: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B011995DDO

first time plugged china adaptor through USB3 today [emoji23] no harm to the phone was done on this picture [emoji23]
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HI,
ANyone tried this usb c to usb c calbe?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Anker-Devic...p/B01196VA52/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top?ie=UTF8
Thank you.

mR.fR34ky said:
HI,
ANyone tried this usb c to usb c calbe?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Anker-Devic...p/B01196VA52/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top?ie=UTF8
Thank you.
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I have purchased one of that Anker brand cable but yet to try it. Based on the testing done by a google engineer involved in Chromebook Pixel project, the cable you've asked should work just fine with OP2.. See the review here:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/review/R26RCODZS6VUEF?ref_=glimp_1rv_cl
http://www.amazon.com/gp/review/R3DGG0QBAYCT1N?ref_=glimp_1rv_cl
Hope that helps.
Cheers.

skeamznz said:
Currently there is a Google engineer testing and reviewing all the type c cables on amazon. Go by his reviews and you will be sweet. The amount of cables his is giving bad reviews is incredible!
Here is the link to his reviews.
*snip*can't post a message with a link in it yet lol*snip*
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Wow thanks for that link! Surely gonna look up his reviews and look what kind of cable I will buy, I need 2 new cables.. 1 for in my truck and the other one for at home.

I have bought this one: http://www.ebay.com/itm/37151693392...49&var=640552960797&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

Tierri said:
I have bought this one:
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That is a good type-c cable?

wsLy said:
That is a good type-c cable?
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I have heard good about it. And it is a reliable brand.

I grabbed a Nillkin one off ebay seems to work brilliantly dosent tangle. Highly recommended.
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anyone here have try xiaomi usb type c cable?

deviantartjr said:
anyone here have try xiaomi usb type c cable?
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I have bought 2 of those (the 1,2m version) and I cannot recommend them for sure. The first one died about a week after buying it. The second one is alive after almost a month although I'm getting ghost touches using it with my op2. (Bought both from Gearbest although I don't think it matters they were official with the genuine sticker...
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I've had good experiences with BlitzWolf USB type-C and micro-USB cables. Have ditched the OnePlus cable that came with my OP2 as it was killing my non-OnePlus chargers, and replaced it with a couple of the BlitzWolf Type-C to Type A 2.0 cables (USB3.0 is useless anyway with the 1+2). No issues at all so far.
Can't post link (first 10 posts and all), but they can be found pretty cheap on Banggood.

My stock cable started charging slow.. Took to service center and for India the warranty for accessories is only 6 months, when the rest of the world it's 1 year.
Had to buy a new one.. But a cable from Ebay.in and it's working quite well.. Looks like stock cable but a bit lower quality.

Hi!
And what about the OTG cables? Can anyone working USB-C (Male) to USB-A (Female) OTG cable for OnePlus2 recommend working? No adapter (from USB-C micro-USB) solutions for care!

I've got 3 of these:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B011995DDO/
They've been recommended by Benson Leung, the Google engineer who has been testing USB-C cables, the OnePlus cable, however, he said it wasn't fit for purpose.
The reason he said they were bad is because the resistor used is not up to the purpose.

USB otg support??

Please confirm if USB otg is supported..
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Yes, it does. You have to go to the Storage Menu and Enable OTG though.

OTG should work in principle, however propably only with a cable from Oneplus. It does not work with a OTG cable from Anker (just tested it).

Hmm, so this is strange. I have a Sandisk OTG enabled USB drive that I just connected to the OP2 using the OnePlus Micro-USB to Type C adapter. Worked perfectly to backup all my stuff from the old phone. I unplugged here and connected it as is to the OnePlus 3 and it doesn't work. Reconnecting to the OP2 works fine, all of the data shows up on PC also, but just won't show up on the OP3. Very strange, still trying to figure this out.

karthikrr said:
Hmm, so this is strange. I have a Sandisk OTG enabled USB drive that I just connected to the OP2 using the OnePlus Micro-USB to Type C adapter. Worked perfectly to backup all my stuff from the old phone. I unplugged here and connected it as is to the OnePlus 3 and it doesn't work. Reconnecting to the OP2 works fine, all of the data shows up on PC also, but just won't show up on the OP3. Very strange, still trying to figure this out.
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That is exactly what my doubt is.. I too have read that plugging in the dual otg drive via adapter doesn't works... If someone can put some light on this, we will be grateful

i purchased this Dash Micro G3 Type-C: Mini MicroSD Card Reader and it works great so far, i am mainly using it as a back up, it comes with a cool little keychain so i have when i need it, pretty compact too, does seem kinda slow, its only transfering at 15MB/s i know the sd card is way faster than that, but it works.
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blassphemy said:
OTG should work in principle, however propably only with a cable from Oneplus. It does not work with a OTG cable from Anker (just tested it).
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Well, for me the following Anker product works like charm:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01C...+USB-C+otg&dpPl=1&dpID=31nCs+PkPRL&ref=plSrch

MagDag said:
Well, for me the following Anker product works like charm:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01C...+USB-C+otg&dpPl=1&dpID=31nCs+PkPRL&ref=plSrch
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I tried it again and you're right... My cable has a extreme tight fit at the connector so I was a bit afraid to push it in with full force. Now I did and it moved in a tiny bit more.
Now it is working fine. So thanks @MagDag for your reply and I can now confirm that the Anker cable works fine too.

Hah indeed - it's really tight fit... I also was very careful in the beginning because I don't wanted to destroy my phone.

karthikrr said:
Hmm, so this is strange. I have a Sandisk OTG enabled USB drive that I just connected to the OP2 using the OnePlus Micro-USB to Type C adapter. Worked perfectly to backup all my stuff from the old phone. I unplugged here and connected it as is to the OnePlus 3 and it doesn't work. Reconnecting to the OP2 works fine, all of the data shows up on PC also, but just won't show up on the OP3. Very strange, still trying to figure this out.
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Same here. Using OnePlus USB C to micro USB adapter and Sandisk OTG USB drive. It does not seem to detect the OTG drive

MagDag said:
Well, for me the following Anker product works like charm:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01C...+USB-C+otg&dpPl=1&dpID=31nCs+PkPRL&ref=plSrch
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Sadly this is not available at Amazon India

i doubt, that the phone actually recognizes the cable itself... however it will depend on how much juice the target device needs vs what the phone provides...
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juliusedward said:
Same here. Using OnePlus USB C to micro USB adapter and Sandisk OTG USB drive. It does not seem to detect the OTG drive
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The OnePlus 2 type-C to micro-USB adapter is a non-standard thing. It was required for the OP2 because the OP2 type C USB is broken.
Try a generic adapter. That's the real test. Generic adapters didn't work on the OP2.

Hmm, so on the OnePlus forums, this seems to be the consensus ... The OnePlus Adapter was for the non-standard Type C on the OP2 and will only allow charging on the OP3, but not OTG. So far, third party standards compatible adapters seem to be working fine. I just ordered the Xiaomi Type C adapter and should get it in a week. Will post here again if it works.

samsexy98 said:
Please confirm if USB otg is supported..
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I bought this one from Skiva https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0140YRZDQ/ref=yo_ii_img?ie=UTF8&psc=1
And use it with a cruze usb 3, the only drawback is that is taking forever to see some mp4 videos recorded from a gopro that are saved in the USB

I bought this and it works perfectly: http://www.ebay.com/itm/351729709215?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

I can confirm the Xiaomi Type C Micro USB adapter does NOT work for OTG. Yes, I had OTG enabled, no go!

I'm not seeing an option to enable usb otg in settings/storage. I'm on Oxygen 3.1.3. Am I just missing it? Do I need to unlock developer options first?
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Nvm. Found it in the 3 dot menu. Ravpower usb otg works.
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Is there any cable which would allow you to charge and read an external flash drive? Never tried OTG before, so I don't know if this is even possible.

Quick Charge 3.0 cable

Hi, I'm pretty new to this Quick Charge 3.0 thing,
I was wondering which usb type-c cable you guys recommend? Will any type-C cable work? Does it need to be certified for Quick Charge 3.0 to work with QC3.0?
Thanks

XblackdemonX said:
Hi, I'm pretty new to this Quick Charge 3.0 thing,
I was wondering which usb type-c cable you guys recommend? Will any type-C cable work? Does it need to be certified for Quick Charge 3.0 to work with QC3.0?
Thanks
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It's actually the power brick that's the most important feature for QC 3.0.

This is the one I'll be getting from Amazon once I get my phone. Definitely need two cables I believe; one for charging and one for data.
Orzly® - New Certified USB 3.0 USB-C to USB-A Male Data & Charging Cable (3A/5V) - For Use With Nexus 5X, Nexus 6P, Lumia 950, Lumia 950 XL and Other Type-C Supported Devices (1M, BLACK)
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Here's a link to the product page: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B018F8BA0C/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=1OCDOJYDU3RS5&coliid=I2T6808AJ4K5E5&psc=1
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That Orzly is pretty expensive for a 1M cable.I
just received an i-Orange 2M cable from Amazon for 10.49 and the build quality is top notch. It also charges at the same 2950mah as the stock cable, according to Ampere.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B010VFFSL4/ref=ya_aw_od_pi?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I don't need a longer cable and a 1 meter cable is sufficient for me. I am just using it for data transfer but is is also capable of the charging power up to 60W (3A)

I got these, you get three at a decent price.
https://www.amazon.com/AUKEY-USB-C-...F8&qid=1471240582&sr=8-8&keywords=aukey+usb+c

Nibiru2012 said:
I don't need a longer cable and a 1 meter cable is sufficient for me. I am just using it for data transfer but is is also capable of the charging power up to 60W (3A)
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How are you getting 20v from a USB charger?
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Cables look good. I'm also trying to find decent quality and price wall adapters (the thing that plugs your usb cable in your wall outlet).
I bought my phone while living in China and they gave a Chinese adapter (of course)...

max1001 said:
How are you getting 20v from a USB charger?
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With a 20v quick charge brick.

max1001 said:
How are you getting 20v from a USB charger?
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If you would like to read about the technology. Q5 answers quickly but there is much more reading available.
https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/quick-charge/faq
QC3.0 varies voltage from like 3.6v (going off memory) up to 20v based on what device needs.

biglilsteve said:
That Orzly is pretty expensive for a 1M cable.I
just received an i-Orange 2M cable from Amazon for 10.49 and the build quality is top notch. It also charges at the same 2950mah as the stock cable, according to Ampere.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B010VFFSL4/ref=ya_aw_od_pi?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Thinking of Ordering it. Thanks
But it is apparently only usb2 as far as transferring from computer. Don't our phones support usb3 transfers?
I have an Aukey I bought that does nothing when connected to ac block.

Barsky said:
Thinking of Ordering it. Thanks
But it is apparently only usb2 as far as transferring from computer. Don't our phones support usb3 transfers?
I have an Aukey I bought that does nothing when connected to ac block.
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yes you want usb 3.0 cables atleast for the ones you are using for data transfer. You can buy some cheaper 2.0 ones you will just use for charging.

I just bought these AUKEY USB-C to USB 3.0 Cable with Durable Nylon [5-Pack 3.3ft*3+6.6ft*1+1ft*1]. It seems like a good price for 5 cables.

XblackdemonX said:
I just bought these AUKEY USB-C to USB 3.0 Cable with Durable Nylon [5-Pack 3.3ft*3+6.6ft*1+1ft*1]. It seems like a good price for 5 cables.
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I think these are the same as the single 6' cable I bought. It workd for data transfer but wasn't even seen at all when plugged in to charge. Please report your experience. Thanks

max1001 said:
How are you getting 20v from a USB charger?
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The axon 7 included charger only goes upto 12v. (Class A Qualcomm charger)
There are chargers out there that also goto 20v. (Class B QualComm charger)
I am not sure that the axon 7 or any 820 chipset can take 20v. 12V is good enough for me, don't need the extra heat in my phone even for the short period of time.
Class B chargers are designed for Laptops and other devices larger than a Smart phone.

HonestOtter said:
The axon 7 included charger only goes upto 12v. (Class A Qualcomm charger)
There are chargers out there that also goto 20v. (Class B QualComm charger)
I am not sure that the axon 7 or any 820 chipset can take 20v. 12V is good enough for me, don't need the extra heat in my phone even for the short period of time.
Class B chargers are designed for Laptops and other devices larger than a Smart phone.
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As the voltage goes up with QC, the amp goes down.
9V/2A and 12V/1.67A
You are not going to get 20V/3A to reach 60 watts. Hell, your phone would melt with 60 watts.

I'm looking for a cable that is the same flexibility as the stock ZTE cable, preferably usb 3.1 but definitely QC 3.0 compatiable.

The USB cable had a lot to do with charging your device, quick charge or not. Non-standard USB-C cables can kill your device. I'm sure many of us have heard about Benson Leung and his reviews of USB-C cables. If not, he's a Google engineer that, for some reason, took it upon himself to review USB-C cables and see if they are "safe". Dude killed his Pixel C with a bad cable:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/0...ous-on-paper-it-allegedly-fried-his-hardware/
I suggest taking a look at the compiled list of cables and adapters he has reviewed or search for his profile on Amazon. I picked up a few USB 3.0 A-to-C cables by VCE that he reviewed and they work well. They are decently priced too. Suggest getting the 3 pack with a 3.3, 5, and 6.6 ft cable for ~$15.

I ordered this the other day, it's supposed to be approved by the Google Eng. (Benson Leung) who's been going around checking USB C cables.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01A07CE8S/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Will receive it later today.
Now i'm looking for a nice type-C to type-C cable for data transfer since i have a type-C port on my XPS 15. I looked at some Thunderbolt 3 cables but they're going for around $25+ which seems too high.

gumbyx84 said:
The USB cable had a lot to do with charging your device, quick charge or not. Non-standard USB-C cables can kill your device.
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Mostly it is crappy chargers that kill your device. A non-spec cable is not too bad if the charger can deliver 3amps reliably (using it as a data cable might not be too great of an idea though) or will gracefully deliver less than that.
And either way, QC3.0 is in clear violation of the USB-c spec so go figure.

Question Messy USB Type C protocols?

Hi all, I am not sure if this forum is the best place to ask, my question is not device specific I think. But since I've got a OP 9Pro, and I believe people here may have a higher chance of knowing the root problem, so I am trying my luck here.
So I recently purchased the new Macbook air, and I am setting up adb for my OP9 phone. I discovered something .... very confusing to say the least regarding USB type C cables (or ports?). I already know USB Type C standard is quite messy but this is out of my comprehension. And I really hope someone can shed some light on me.
I have a few USB Type C cables and when I connect them to my phone and the Macbook USBC port, Most won't support data transfer and some won't even charge! So I got curious and tested with 3 different USBC cables, and 2 USBC devices ( My OP9 Phone and a Wacom drawing pad), I also connect a USB-C Hub to my Mac and then repeat the experiment with all those cables again. (The USB-C Hub has a USB-C port marked 'PD + Data', see picture attached)
You can find the result table below. A few explanations:
Red cable is the original OnePlus cable; Black cable is a office supplied data cable (looks good quality); and the white cable I'd say is a cheap USBC cable.
Connect via MacBook USBC means the cable in question is connected to the Macbook USBC port directly
Connect vis Hub USBC means the USBC Hub is connected to the Macbook USBC port, and all other devices are then connected via the USB-C port provided by the HUB
For OnePlus 9 Pro, Data means I can see my devices using `adb devices`
For Wacom, Data means I can move/click the mouse cursor with the pad.
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I understand that not all USB Type-C cables are created equal, but at the very least I'd expect they can all charge a phone? It is not the case here. The questions most confused me are:
The Black cable is marked as a data cable, and it can connect to my wacom when I plug it directly to my Mac. My Wacom works as normal, but how come when I connect it to my phone, it's not even charging my phone?
When the Black cable is connected directly to my Mac from my Phone, I accidentally disconnected my MacBook Air's MagSafe power, and guess what happened? My phone is reverse charging the Macbook. WTF? Is there some sort of one-way charging protocol with this black cable?
Why adding the USB-C Hub causes different behaviour? It is clear that the HUB does support data transfer, although only with the Wacom device.
All 3 cables in question can charge my phone if I plug the other end to the apple white USB-C charger that comes with my Mac
Only using the OP red cable can the MacBook detect my phone, why? shouldn't all USB Type C 'data cables' can do that?
Really appreciate any insights!

I don't understand what you are asking or what your problem is.... The OnePlus red cable seems to be the obvious choice for charging and data transfer...

One of the questions would be what's so special about the op cable? Is there some proprietary protocol/chip in the cable that only allows it to communicate, or even charge my phone?

Well, things do get very confusing with power delivery and USB 2/3.
For instance, a USB 3.0 is required to have the USB 2.0 part functional.
But, you can chop that out and some devices in some circumstances will work just fine.
Also, many Type C cables are only USB 2.0, they are missing the four pairs for USB 3.0.
I would think that anything would charge somewhat but there are two major protocols for power negotiation.
One is pulsing on the CC, the other is a carrier on Vbus.
The best thing to do would be to take scissors to all your cables so that we may understand the problem!

newwaylw said:
One of the questions would be what's so special about the op cable? Is there some proprietary protocol/chip in the cable that only allows it to communicate, or even charge my phone?
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The cable and charger that came with the phone is "matched" to the device. To deviate from that is a choice and a gamble that yields mixed results.

TheGhost1951 said:
The cable and charger that came with the phone is "matched" to the device. To deviate from that is a choice and a gamble that yields mixed results.
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Although the stock red cable supports both WARP charge and data transfer, it's only a USB 2.0 protocol, crippling the transfer speed. FYI.

ekin_strops said:
Although the stock red cable supports both WARP charge and data transfer, it's only a USB 2.0 protocol, crippling the transfer speed. FYI.
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But my charge rates are 30% to 100% is less than 1 hour...my data rates between phone and PC are insignificant as to whether to takes 5 mins or 7 mins to transfer 7gb of data...as long as I can charge my phone in a reasonable amount of time and I can transfer data between my phone and PC reasonable, then what if any problem do I have?

Oh, the One Plus 9 also uses its own proprietary protocol for power negotiation.

Renate said:
Oh, the One Plus 9 also uses its own proprietary protocol for power negotiation.
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So, really what is your complaint, I was for a long time using Samsung devices, and even though I paid for them, I could not unlock the bootloader. It is my phone, I paid for it, but I can't have a custom bootanimation or do what ever with my phone since I paid for it. It was my phone, but we will limit you as to what you can do is what Samsung was saying. Charging and data rate transfer were the least of my problems. My phone my customizations were more important to me..

TheGhost1951 said:
So, really what is your complaint
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Huh? I was just stating a fact.
I don't own a One Plus, I rarely care how fast something charges, but I am interested in USB.

Renate said:
Huh? I was just stating a fact.
I don't own a One Plus, I rarely care how fast something charges, but I am interested in USB.
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Why are you only interested in USB?

TheGhost1951 said:
Why are you only interested in USB?
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I'm interested in a few different things.
I just read a book on the Great Trigonometrical Survey (of India, 1802-1871).
And just this morning I disassembled and patched the kernel on my new tablet.

The gambit of chargers and cables is all over the spectrum. Some cables will charge but not do data transfer. It is sometimes a hit and miss proposition that for the most part is a gamble. Not exactly a monumentous problem. Good luck in your endeavor...

TheGhost1951 said:
Why are you only interested in USB?
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What are you talking about? She stated a fact, that's it.

No further comment on this subject, it is pointless!