What bloatware is safe to delete? - ZenFone 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

How much and what bloatware is safe to delete?
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Depends, how clean are you trying to make it?
I remove a ton of stuff, but I do actually use a few of the Asus apps.

I'd also like to see if we could create a list of everything you can uninstall, personally until CM12 comes to the ZF2 I'd like to uninstall every single non-essential ASUS application to the point where my device is as close to stock android as possible. Anyone know of such a list?

Harfainx said:
Depends, how clean are you trying to make it?
I remove a ton of stuff, but I do actually use a few of the Asus apps.
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Fairly clean tried a few asus apps some seem like they'd be useful but a lot aren't
But there is loads of crap apps
I'm not going to be updating with OTA anyway so even some system apps are gone already
Just needing to know what i can get shut off safely
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I'll get some things put together for app/location. There's a lot that can be removed but causes the Asus experience to suffer. There's a lot that just shouldn't be there.
I'll try to get a list with things organized by impact. There's a bunch of stuff that's installed but doesn't even show up. Straight up junk.

Harfainx said:
I'll get some things put together for app/location. There's a lot that can be removed but causes the Asus experience to suffer. There's a lot that just shouldn't be there.
I'll try to get a list with things organized by impact. There's a bunch of stuff that's installed but doesn't even show up. Straight up junk.
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Appreciated mate
I can't believe some of the crap they have in system files unbelievable
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When in doubt, just freeze it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/zenfone2/help/apps-to-freeze-t3142954

Haven't rooted. So every time I uninstall one of those pieces of crap it reinstalls alllll by itself. Like it's possessed.

geegs8 said:
Haven't rooted. So every time I uninstall one of those pieces of crap it reinstalls alllll by itself. Like it's possessed.
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If you're unrooted, you can't uninstall system apps with the regular uninstall process. It will only uninstall updates back to the stock build version. Then it will update again from the Play Store, which is probably what you're seeing.

cmendonc2 said:
When in doubt, just freeze it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/zenfone2/help/apps-to-freeze-t3142954
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Nah i like to remove it completely
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geegs8 said:
Haven't rooted. So every time I uninstall one of those pieces of crap it reinstalls alllll by itself. Like it's possessed.
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Rooting has it's advantages even if you don't want custom roms kernels or recovery
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Are there any options other than rooting
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wschase said:
Are there any options other than rooting
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You can disable some apps, but that's about it for ones that it won't let you fully uninstall.

wschase said:
Are there any options other than rooting
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Yes go to play store type asus apps
Found out it let's you uninstall most of them
Once deleted reboot if it seems stuck on splash screen press power button till it powers down
Then power on your phone HEY PRESTO ALL THE CRAP GONE
To get them Back just reinstall from play store
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I posted a ROM with a list of what I removed.
Please feel free to let me know about more things that can go.
Plus I'm still expanding on it. This is an early pass of what can go.
List can be seen HERE under the hidden content button (didn't want to blow up the post too much).

Harfainx said:
I posted a ROM with a list of what I removed.
Please feel free to let me know about more things that can go.
Plus I'm still expanding on it. This is an early pass of what can go.
List can be seen HERE under the hidden content button (didn't want to blow up the post too much).
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Yeah I've seen your post mate nice touch
More or less the same as I've got rid of was thinking about talking software update out of system but not sure if I'd get away with that
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Hello, if i removed (actually deleted some bloatware) and want to factory reset my phone, will that cause a softbrick of the phone?

darcsacka said:
Hello, if i removed (actually deleted some bloatware) and want to factory reset my phone, will that cause a softbrick of the phone?
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It hasn't on my device.
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Thanks for the answer Man

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Bloatware

I'm going to be rooting mine and my girlfriends phone in the next few days. I wanted to see about removing the Bloatware on the phones once they are rooted. Is there anything special I need to download to be able to remove them? I have most of them disabled but would like to totally get rid if them. I searched all over for an answer but was unable to find one.
Thanks in advance.
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Titanium backup. Just download it from the play store and that will do the trick. Search the forum to see which apps are safe to remove tho.
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Titanium backup. It allows you to uninstall anything. If you are not sure about a program, you can freeze it, which will not allow the program to run, then if no problems occur it can be uninstalled. if you search, you can find an ongoing list of programs safe to delete
Thank you guys, I ended up getting the pro version and will search for that list of apps you talkrd about and go from there.
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Frost0113 said:
I'm going to be rooting mine and my girlfriends phone in the next few days. I wanted to see about removing the Bloatware on the phones once they are rooted. Is there anything special I need to download to be able to remove them? I have most of them disabled but would like to totally get rid if them. I searched all over for an answer but was unable to find one.
Thanks in advance.
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you can try getting a stock rom that's been cleaned of bloatware?
Thanks, I didn't know I could do that with tb gonna try it
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You can't do that with TB. Find these bloatware-free ROMs in the android dev forum.

Is this phone dead in the water?

Hey guys, I just got an S3 3 days ago, just got paid again and was wondering if I should go ahead and spring for the note 2 but everyone keeps telling me since the note 2 has exynos, it will be hard to develop for or something? I've had an iPhone for 5 years so I'm a clinical retard when it comes to android stuff. It almost seems like the people saying that are kind of jealous that they don't or can't get the note 2. I was just wondering if you can easily root the note 2 and flash CM10, because I hate bloatware and love CM10 sounds. If CM10 isn't available is it possible to de bloat it at all?
De bloating is no problem. CM10 will lose the S-pen functionality on this monster.
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meleii said:
De bloating is no problem. CM10 will lose the S-pen functionality on this monster.
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Thanks for the reply brother. Another quick question, I used a very easy toolkit to root my S3, I don't remember who made but it was in green text and in console. Is there anything like that available for the note 2, it was amazingly simple to use and easily un rooted my S3, I've been on Android for all of 4 days so excuse my nubishness. Lol
Right now it is a little more difficult to root than a 1 click method...but in time I bet the developers will make it happen..
MY honest opinion...get the Note II...
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Mac11700 said:
Right now it is a little more difficult to root than a 1 click method...but in time I bet the developers will make it happen..
MY honest opinion...get the Note II...
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Yeah I'm gonna go ahead and spring for the note 2, couple more questions and once again my apologies for being so noobish, is there a way to de bloat and get the quick reply texting, like CM10, without rooting?
*EDIT* Also is there way to get the CM10 sounds? I love the ringtones and sms notifications.
No.
I got tones on zedge
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drochro said:
Yeah I'm gonna go ahead and spring for the note 2, couple more questions and once again my apologies for being so noobish, is there a way to de bloat and get the quick reply texting, like CM10, without rooting?
*EDIT* Also is there way to get the CM10 sounds? I love the ringtones and sms notifications.
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Yes you could. Get someone with cm10 to extract them for you. I can do this later when I get home if you cant find them
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Titanium backup to be bloat
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kleeman7 said:
Yes you could. Get someone with cm10 to extract them for you. I can do this later when I get home if you cant find them
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That would be awesome bro, I also heard you can disable bloatware from the native note 2 file manager. Guess there's no need to root....yet.
drochro said:
That would be awesome bro, I also heard you can disable bloatware from the native note 2 file manager. Guess there's no need to root....yet.
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I rooted within 5 minutes of getting the phone, but I would imagine that this only applies if you're rooted. AT&T doesn't want you taking its bloat/spy/malware off, so I really doubt they'd let an unrooted user go through and delete the apps.
I'm waiting for the Multi-view update before rooting. Save myself from having to unroot. And as for bloatware, you can just "disable" it - without rooting.
And as for it being "dead in the water".... what you talking about? News to me...
drochro said:
Hey guys, I just got an S3 3 days ago, just got paid again and was wondering if I should go ahead and spring for the note 2 but everyone keeps telling me since the note 2 has exynos, it will be hard to develop for or something? I've had an iPhone for 5 years so I'm a clinical retard when it comes to android stuff. It almost seems like the people saying that are kind of jealous that they don't or can't get the note 2. I was just wondering if you can easily root the note 2 and flash CM10, because I hate bloatware and love CM10 sounds. If CM10 isn't available is it possible to de bloat it at all?
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As far as rooting goes... There is a method on here that literally takes about 3 mins from beginning to end.. very easy. Once rooted, just download and install Cleanrom Lite 1.0...this rom is debloated and extremely fast/smooth. There are plenty of sms apps that provide quick reply... gosms/chompsms/handcent are just a few. This is one awesome phone and I wouldn't worry too much about development, or lack thereof.
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drochro said:
That would be awesome bro, I also heard you can disable bloatware from the native note 2 file manager. Guess there's no need to root....yet.
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No need to root to de-bloat. I'm on the stock ROM, haven't seen a need to root yet.
1. Go to: "Settings | Application Manager" and swipe over to the "All" tab.
2. Find what you want gone (i.e. all of the AT&T apps) and tap it.
3. Clear data, Clear cache. Some apps might also require you to "uninstall updates".
4. Force stop.
5. Disable.
You're done. If you later want to re-enable something, scroll down to the bottom of the "All" list ... it has everything you've disabled listed there. I've disabled about 32 things that came preloaded, including almost all the Samsung cloud stuff, GMail, all the Google Sync services, all the Google additional services (apps like Google+ and Google Play Magazines/Movies & TV/Music, not Android system services), with no issues whatsoever.
powerwagon said:
As far as rooting goes... There is a method on here that literally takes about 3 mins from beginning to end.. very easy. Once rooted, just download and install Cleanrom Lite 1.0...this rom is debloated and extremely fast/smooth. There are plenty of sms apps that provide quick reply... gosms/chompsms/handcent are just a few. This is one awesome phone and I wouldn't worry too much about development, or lack thereof.
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Is there an SMS app with Quick Reply that preserves the look of the stock Jelly Bean SMS app? I really like the way it looks already loaded on the Note 2 so I don't want to take away its aesthetics.
UserNamer said:
No need to root to de-bloat. I'm on the stock ROM, haven't seen a need to root yet.
1. Go to: "Settings | Application Manager" and swipe over to the "All" tab.
2. Find what you want gone (i.e. all of the AT&T apps) and tap it.
3. Clear data, Clear cache. Some apps might also require you to "uninstall updates".
4. Force stop.
5. Disable.
You're done. If you later want to re-enable something, scroll down to the bottom of the "All" list ... it has everything you've disabled listed there. I've disabled about 32 things that came preloaded, including almost all the Samsung cloud stuff, GMail, all the Google Sync services, all the Google additional services (apps like Google+ and Google Play Magazines/Movies & TV/Music, not Android system services), with no issues whatsoever.
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Exactly correct. A nice touch on sammys part
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erick161 said:
Exactly correct. A nice touch on sammys part
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Its actually part of android 4.0.
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drochro said:
That would be awesome bro, I also heard you can disable bloatware from the native note 2 file manager. Guess there's no need to root....yet.
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yes go to setting-application manager slide to the right until u see all apps then scroll down to any app u want to debloat select then disable. Boom the app will disappear. Remember this method only disable the app if u want to delete them then need root. Learn about Odin stuff that easy for new noobs. Good luck

Safe to remove bloatware apps?

i didnt see any thread in here for the safe to remove apps on the Note 2
anybody have a list?
I think this is a legitimate question. For those of us that choose to remove system apps without using an Aroma type program we can really mess up functionality if we delete the wrong stuff. I would like to see a thread where a qualified Dev makes a list of all the system apps that come pre installed and tells us whether they are safe to remove or not
IIRC that stupid Sprint Connections Optimizer can at best only be frozen...if you try to remove it bad things happen. Most of the other bloat you can live without ime.
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Yeah I've seen lists made for other devices
Earlier I removed one I was almost was harmless to remove but then my notification bar disappeared. Luckily I recovered it
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Titaniums Backup is your friend. Backup everything, then freeze, test. If ok, then delete and test. If ok, cool. If not, restore or unfreeze.
Masturbatoe said:
i didnt see any thread in here for the safe to remove apps on the Note 2
anybody have a list?
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Here you go:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1910885
s4pat said:
Here you go:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1910885
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Thanks much!
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Built in App Killer

Is there anyway to modify the built in App killer.. (when you hold the home button and press the garbage can) to where when you kill apps it doesn't kill certain ones?
Thanks!
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Yeah when you hold the home button and those apps come up, just slide the ones you want killed off the screen.
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edfunkycold said:
Yeah when you hold the home button and those apps come up, just slide the ones you want killed off the screen.
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I know that. But thanks.
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There's not a way from what I've seen to be able to ignore certain apps using the default one. Your probably going to need to use a 3rdparty app and just whitelist some apps. I believe battery docotor let's you do it. And you can probably try advanced task killer or even fast reboot. You might just need to spend a good few minutes on the play store and find one that works the way you want.
Can I suggest Greenify, it hibernates the apps and are instantly available when you call on them. Then you do not have to worry about which apps are left running in the background.
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Nymisiz said:
There's not a way from what I've seen to be able to ignore certain apps using the default one. Your probably going to need to use a 3rdparty app and just whitelist some apps. I believe battery docotor let's you do it. And you can probably try advanced task killer or even fast reboot. You might just need to spend a good few minutes on the play store and find one that works the way you want.
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The only 3rd party app that's good is greenify.
edfunkycold said:
Can I suggest Greenify, it hibernates the apps and are instantly available when you call on them. Then you do not have to worry about which apps are left running in the background.
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I thought of that as soon as I posted this thread..
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I was going to make my own thread but I figured I'd just post on this one. What about having the aosp app switcher/killer (whatever it's called, the thing cbass15 asked about) on a tw rom?
I've noticed so many aosp features on tw now I'm starting to feel greedy but I just wanted to know if it was possible
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Boot Looping

Was this a problem on the first Note tablet? As I get to installing a lot of apps, over 500 is what I have, I've found that the tablet is going through an infinite boot loop. I'm talking to a Samsung rep online now about it. I've tried taking out the sd card, putting it back it, etc. It appears that some are going through this too with the Galaxy Note 3.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2467005
icebergisonfire said:
Was this a problem on the first Note tablet? As I get to installing a lot of apps, over 500 is what I have, I've found that the tablet is going through an infinite boot loop. I'm talking to a Samsung rep online now about it. I've tried taking out the sd card, putting it back it, etc. It appears that some are going through this too with the Galaxy Note 3.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2467005
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Updating my status. Through my own research, instead of trying to install all 500 at once, I've taken a more modest approach. I'm installing apps 4 at a time, letting it finish, powering down, then starting back up. It's working. I can get to my home screen without problem now. Maybe 500+ apps was too much of a strain for the file system to endure.
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Maybe 500+ apps was too much of a strain for the file system to endure.
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it would be pretty stupid if that's the case. it would seem a bug if anything, and serious for some. installing that 500th (or whatever the breaking point would be) at the wrong time could be disastrous.
perhaps we'll her more about it this weekend when the rest of us start getting ours. only i don't really have 500 apps that i want installed, lol.
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Updating my status. Through my own research, instead of trying to install all 500 at once, I've taken a more modest approach. I'm installing apps 4 at a time, letting it finish, powering down, then starting back up. It's working. I can get to my home screen without problem now. Maybe 500+ apps was too much of a strain for the file system to endure.
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+1... That is exactly what I do however i install about 10 apps at a time then reboot then do another 10, ETC...
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500 is a big number for most people. i know some people who barely have 10 apps downloaded. i've got quite a bit but definitely not 500...
Yes I would agree with that as well, I don't know that I would have a advocate having 500 applications I think I may have 30 or 40 at the most
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I have a ton of games. When I went to my Google Play for the first time, it was like it was raining apps. :laugh:
icebergisonfire said:
I have a ton of games. When I went to my Google Play for the first time, it was like it was raining apps. :laugh:
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Please keep in mind that some apps my not be fully compatible with android 4.3 yet.
Mine goes through the Samsung animation 5 times... I'm not sure at what point started doing that. I have around 100 apps and I feel very lazy to reset it and install a few apps at the time to see if that fixes the problem... Anyway I wonder what the apps have to do with the booting?
For reference I'm using: Nova Launcher, Swiftkey and not rooted yet.
Maybe a future update will fix this....?
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I removed the Sd card (64Gb) and now just looped once... I'll reformat the card latter today and post back...
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Nope... I just formated the card and the Samsung animation still loops 4-5 times...
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The question really is... Is that really a problem? Defective unit? Or an Android/Samsung software issue? Because it boots up anyway and works with no apparent problems... Is everyone else going through a similar/same issue?
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icebergisonfire said:
Was this a problem on the first Note tablet? As I get to installing a lot of apps, over 500 is what I have, I've found that the tablet is going through an infinite boot loop. I'm talking to a Samsung rep online now about it. I've tried taking out the sd card, putting it back it, etc. It appears that some are going through this too with the Galaxy Note 3.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2467005
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Do a factory reset trough your recovery
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lolerpro8 said:
Do a factory reset trough your recovery
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DO NOT do this!! I did this on my own note 10.1 2014 after a bootlooping issue caused by corrupt files on my sd card (or so Ive theorized), and after doing so, my software showed as CUSTOM in the settings, and would not let me access the update servers. It was only after restoring the firmware via kies (a long and involved process, though less than odin, which probably would work too) that I was able to get it back to "Official". So unless you want to go through what I did, DO NOT factory reset via recovery. Id recommend doing everything else possible to fix this first.
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DO NOT do this!! I did this on my own note 10.1 2014 after a bootlooping issue caused by corrupt files on my sd card (or so Ive theorized), and after doing so, my software showed as CUSTOM in the settings, and would not let me access the update servers. It was only after restoring the firmware via kies (a long and involved process, though less than odin, which probably would work too) that I was able to get it back to "Official". So unless you want to go through what I did, DO NOT factory reset via recovery. Id recommend doing everything else possible to fix this first.
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Dusko75 said:
The question really is... Is that really a problem? Defective unit? Or an Android/Samsung software issue? Because it boots up anyway and works with no apparent problems... Is everyone else going through a similar/same issue?
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Whell then istall custom recovery and delete them manualy. This is possible only with twrp.
lolerpro8 said:
Whell then istall custom recovery and delete them manualy. This is possible only with twrp.
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i suppose you have instructions on how to do so?
madsquabbles said:
i suppose you have instructions on how to do so?
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Root it, install goo manager from play store, then press settings > install OpenRecoveryScript
... and root it how???
lolerpro8 said:
Root it, install goo manager from play store, then press settings > install OpenRecoveryScript
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You do know that this tablet his only been out for 5 days and there is not root for it yet?
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ajamudc said:
You do know that this tablet his only been out for 5 days and there is not root for it yet?
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That means there is no twrp for it yet. And there are loads of universal rooting programs, and you can always do it over odin
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That means there is no twrp for it yet. And there are loads of universal rooting programs, and you can always do it over odin
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if you know how can you please share? i'd love root. even if giving knox a flip.

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