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Black Aluminium Excalibur Case kills signal

Having heard about the screen cracking problems and just generally wanting to protect my new excalibur I searched the Net for a good case.
I found several online stores and ebay sellers carrying a Black Aluminum Case, i even found it on amazon and the reviews looked pretty good.
The case is pretty much identical to this one, maybe some of you have tried it.
I really like the way Case protects the screen and the phone in general while allowing access to all the keys, and it doesn't look half bad if a little bulky.
Unfortunately the belt clip fell apart after just 2 days use though thats not such a deal breaker but I have also just realized that the case decreases my signal strength, in some situations by 3 bars. That i cannot live with, it sort of ruins the point of having a hard accessible case if you have to keep on taking your phone out of it every time you want to make a call.
This is the most active Excalibur forum i have found (and stuff you guys develop is awesome) and i was just wondering if you guys could recommend a good affordable case. I have found a black plastic case and a lot of leather/cloth ones but after this bad experience i would like to see what you guys have to say first.
Thanks
Just use a rubber case, seems to do the job for me and they are fairly cheap on ebay.
For Fathers Day, I got a black/silver carbon fiber case... looks damn sexy with the black wallpaper on Kavanas ROM. No signal probs at all.
There are other options
Dude, I am dead serious about my phone looking sweet. I can tell you do too, hence the aluminum case. So, here's what you do, go back to ebay and get one of those antenna boosters. It's a freakin strip you put on your battery or something, it's toilet paper thin. It takes up no space. Try it. It might help, and then you wouldn't have to sacrifice the cool case. It's worth a shot.
Plus, unless you have extensively tested this theory. I doubt that your case is making your signal quality go down. Since the signal is transmitted so far away and makes it through so many metallic and non-metallic obstacles, yet your phone picks it up. Now, it does all of that, and you think that a 20th of an inch of aliminum is going to stop the signal. Maybe, but I would try something else before trashing the case. Just an opinion. Hope this helps.
RoachX said:
Having heard about the screen cracking problems and just generally wanting to protect my new excalibur I searched the Net for a good case.
I found several online stores and ebay sellers carrying a Black Aluminum Case, i even found it on amazon and the reviews looked pretty good.
The case is pretty much identical to this one, maybe some of you have tried it.
I really like the way Case protects the screen and the phone in general while allowing access to all the keys, and it doesn't look half bad if a little bulky.
Unfortunately the belt clip fell apart after just 2 days use though thats not such a deal breaker but I have also just realized that the case decreases my signal strength, in some situations by 3 bars. That i cannot live with, it sort of ruins the point of having a hard accessible case if you have to keep on taking your phone out of it every time you want to make a call.
This is the most active Excalibur forum i have found (and stuff you guys develop is awesome) and i was just wondering if you guys could recommend a good affordable case. I have found a black plastic case and a lot of leather/cloth ones but after this bad experience i would like to see what you guys have to say first.
Thanks
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outerdepth said:
Since the signal is transmitted so far away and makes it through so many metallic and non-metallic obstacles, yet your phone picks it up. Now, it does all of that, and you think that a 20th of an inch of aliminum is going to stop the signal.
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Exceptional point!
I have a black aluminum case as well... my signal is just fine...
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Plus, unless you have extensively tested this theory. I doubt that your case is making your signal quality go down. Since the signal is transmitted so far away and makes it through so many metallic and non-metallic obstacles, yet your phone picks it up. Now, it does all of that, and you think that a 20th of an inch of aliminum is going to stop the signal. Maybe, but I would try something else before trashing the case. Just an opinion. Hope this helps.
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I have tried it out in numerous situations, there are of course some situations where i get full bars with the case or with out but there are many (including my home) where with the case i will get 1 -2 bars and seconds after taking it out of the case the signal will go up by 2 or 3 bars. Put in the case, wait a couple of seconds and again the down to 1 - 2 bars. I didn't think a thin sheet of aluminium would effect the signal either, maybe its the lining or even the finish on the case.
Don't those signal boosters eat up the battery?
jacknmary said:
For Fathers Day, I got a black/silver carbon fiber case... looks damn sexy with the black wallpaper on Kavanas ROM. No signal probs at all.
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You wouldn't happen to have any links to that product?
Im sorry...I bought it at the local mall. A phone accessory vendor had it. cost me 20, and I'd be happy to pick one up for you if you wanted to paypal the cash.
Ill post a pic soon...
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Yes.. it sounds good! But, not a very educated point that's for sure... hehe
outerdepth said:
Dude, I am dead serious about my phone looking sweet. I can tell you do too, hence the aluminum case. So, here's what you do, go back to ebay and get one of those antenna boosters. It's a freakin strip you put on your battery or something, it's toilet paper thin. It takes up no space. Try it. It might help, and then you wouldn't have to sacrifice the cool case. It's worth a shot.
Plus, unless you have extensively tested this theory. I doubt that your case is making your signal quality go down. Since the signal is transmitted so far away and makes it through so many metallic and non-metallic obstacles, yet your phone picks it up. Now, it does all of that, and you think that a 20th of an inch of aliminum is going to stop the signal. Maybe, but I would try something else before trashing the case. Just an opinion. Hope this helps.
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The battery booster idea... yeah. Not happening. Unless you engineer a way to actually improve the phone's internal "antenna" with that sticker (because that's all it is), it's not going to improve anything, but maybe make your battery door wobble less.
The way cell phones transmit their signals is a little different... Our phones don't emit radiowaves with a lot of power. The receiving towers have very high gain amplifiers that amplify these incoming signal VERY much in order to make them usable, and send them out to our phones at a very high power. If our phones emitted with the same wattage, we'd probably have brain cancer in a month. That's why it's important to look at SAR values when shopping for a phone. Our Excaliburs aren't too bad in that category...
You'll notice that ALL mettalic phones have a plastic panel SOMEWHERE on the case. The Iphone for example... black plastic at the bottom. The LG Shine which is all stainless steel, has a plastic cap at the top. These areas is where the antenna "array" is mounted. Why ? Because a mettalic case around it will effectively BLOCK the signal. Our Excalibur's antenna is at the top of phone, so make that area is clear of metallic obstructions in order to get a good signal
Oh and a piece of 1/20 inch aluminum will definitely STOP the signal IF it covers the phone all the way around. It acts like a cage for it. This is why when you open up a phone, you'll see these metal panels over the various radio chips on the phone's motherboard. They're put there to block radio interferance. Now if his case has holes in it, that's where the signal gets in , to the antenna. If those "holes" arent strategically placed, it will make radio waves not reach the antenna at full power, thus making his signal bars drop...
hmmmm.... i use a metal case that completely covers my phone (top included) and i have absolutely no loss in signal strength.... There are currently two types of metal cases for the HTC Excalibur (excluding colors) with minor diffferences between the two:
this one: http://www.pdair.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=10100000_900000_11000048&products_id=5295#thumb , which the top is left open and the edging around the keys are weird (i've owned this one and it sucks cuz your phone has a tendency to slide around)
and this one: http://www.ids.hk/item_detail.asp?C...e&itemID=40D714A9-0AFE-473B-A1D7-6346E7A8AF39 , this is the one i own ( albeit not from that site ) the entire top is covered. and the edging around the keys is a lot better.
Specifically all these cases sell with tag names: Monaco Aluminum Case, Metal Case, Metal Deluxe Case. and Innopocket Metal Case.
The one titled Innopocket Metal Case is the one you're going to want to get. It fits the phone better. and is better constructed.
I have the exact case posted in the opening thread (Monaco with open top). The Dash can move around a little but I am comfortable with this because it helps with screen adjustment depending on your angle of use. I never use the belt clip. I just orient it a certain way and use the original Dash belt holder (extra protection). I like the cool feel of the aluminum vs. the rubbery feel of the Dash. Also unlike the Dash, the aluminum case has little feet to better release sound and help with cooling when lying flat.
In any case I get great signals with or without the case in my area. But I have a friend that has like two levels of screens and mesh on the windows and doors. Kind of like the stuff high tech companies put on the windows to prevent signal theft of computer processors and such. If I open the case inside my signal strength does increase. But I don't complain because many cant even get a signal inside. So I guess it's true that under some circumstances, even the open top aluminum case impedes signal strength.
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... and you think that a 20th of an inch of aliminum is going to stop the signal. Maybe, but I would try something else before trashing the case. Just an opinion. Hope this helps.
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Guess you've never thought of how a coaxial cable works (Cable TV). The shield on that cable is much smaller than 1/20th in. and it seems to do a pretty good job of keeping foreign signals out.
jacknmary said:
For Fathers Day, I got a black/silver carbon fiber case... looks damn sexy with the black wallpaper on Kavanas ROM. No signal probs at all.
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oh wow i had an exact case for my dash when i had it
pudgedaddy said:
hmmmm.... i use a metal case that completely covers my phone (top included) and i have absolutely no loss in signal strength.... There are currently two types of metal cases for the HTC Excalibur (excluding colors) with minor diffferences between the two:
this one: http://www.pdair.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=10100000_900000_11000048&products_id=5295#thumb , which the top is left open and the edging around the keys are weird (i've owned this one and it sucks cuz your phone has a tendency to slide around)
and this one: http://www.ids.hk/item_detail.asp?C...e&itemID=40D714A9-0AFE-473B-A1D7-6346E7A8AF39 , this is the one i own ( albeit not from that site ) the entire top is covered. and the edging around the keys is a lot better.
Specifically all these cases sell with tag names: Monaco Aluminum Case, Metal Case, Metal Deluxe Case. and Innopocket Metal Case.
The one titled Innopocket Metal Case is the one you're going to want to get. It fits the phone better. and is better constructed.
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The case i have is identical to your first link except the back of my case has less holes (top right of the back). I wonder if making some holes in the same area would help.
How do you find the belt clip for the case you bought? Is it hardy enough for regular use?
Thanks
RoachX said:
The case i have is identical to your first link except the back of my case has less holes (top right of the back). I wonder if making some holes in the same area would help.
How do you find the belt clip for the case you bought? Is it hardy enough for regular use?
Thanks
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Did your case not come with a belt clip? Heck i'd give you 2 two i have if you were down the street from me. I don't use them. Not that i hate the reliability, but i'm very skiddish having "my baby" left out in the open to get lost. But if you're didnt come with one, chances are it would work with any variation. The back of both cases i posted have a screw hole in the miggle of the back of it that a metal nub screws into. Thats what lock onto the clip when its on your belt. Without that screw hole or metal nub, you're dead in the water
Oh it came with a clip, and said clip fell apart after a days use :-(. I'm looking at the version of the case you have the clip mechanism looks different.
I was just trying to help, so sorry if anyone feels mislead.
Well, it would seem that if I want to get a response out of someone, all I should do is say something slightly objectionable, MAN.
A simple no, I don't think that's how it works could have done the job. It's cool I have thick skin. LOL!
I do wanna add, though, that metals do not possess the exact same properties across the board. What I mean is, iron and aluminum are both metals, but aluminum is not magnetic because it is not a ferrous metal such as iron or one of its alloys, steel. I do want to add also, that I understand the radio chip concept and the metal cage placed around it to keep interference out. This does not mean that the chip cage is made of aluminum. I am not saying that it is, but I doubt it. Isn't aluminum used as an antenna for radios? Just saying, you think if it makes a good radio antenna or tv antenna, that it would make a good cellular radio antenna.
OrganicM said:
The battery booster idea... yeah. Not happening. Unless you engineer a way to actually improve the phone's internal "antenna" with that sticker (because that's all it is), it's not going to improve anything, but maybe make your battery door wobble less.
The way cell phones transmit their signals is a little different... Our phones don't emit radiowaves with a lot of power. The receiving towers have very high gain amplifiers that amplify these incoming signal VERY much in order to make them usable, and send them out to our phones at a very high power. If our phones emitted with the same wattage, we'd probably have brain cancer in a month. That's why it's important to look at SAR values when shopping for a phone. Our Excaliburs aren't too bad in that category...
You'll notice that ALL mettalic phones have a plastic panel SOMEWHERE on the case. The Iphone for example... black plastic at the bottom. The LG Shine which is all stainless steel, has a plastic cap at the top. These areas is where the antenna "array" is mounted. Why ? Because a mettalic case around it will effectively BLOCK the signal. Our Excalibur's antenna is at the top of phone, so make that area is clear of metallic obstructions in order to get a good signal
Oh and a piece of 1/20 inch aluminum will definitely STOP the signal IF it covers the phone all the way around. It acts like a cage for it. This is why when you open up a phone, you'll see these metal panels over the various radio chips on the phone's motherboard. They're put there to block radio interferance. Now if his case has holes in it, that's where the signal gets in , to the antenna. If those "holes" arent strategically placed, it will make radio waves not reach the antenna at full power, thus making his signal bars drop...
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Also, I wasn't expecting this kind of a reponse out of you, xticon, oops, xciton. Wow, very insightful. Could you please explain to me the purpose of this "shield" as far as the coaxial cable is concerned. I always thought it was there as a ground or to create a potential difference for the signal. Guess, I am wrong. Could and would you please clarify, since I appear to be retarded. Thanks, buddy!
xciton said:
Guess you've never thought of how a coaxial cable works (Cable TV). The shield on that cable is much smaller than 1/20th in. and it seems to do a pretty good job of keeping foreign signals out.
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Belt clips attached to the phone always break or come apart somehow. I'm with Pudgedaddy, I would never leave my baby dangling over the edge like that. LOL

What do you think of the purple (sorry.. stone) band?

Under the fluorescent lights in my office... the strap looks VERY purple.
In sunlight its less purple.
Is anybody happy with the new stone color strap?
LostByte said:
Under the fluorescent lights in my office... the strap looks VERY purple.
In sunlight its less purple.
Is anybody happy with the new stone color strap?
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You can easily dye it another color: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-360/accessories/diy-6-fix-stone-purple-band-t2892492
LostByte said:
Under the fluorescent lights in my office... the strap looks VERY purple.
In sunlight its less purple.
Is anybody happy with the new stone color strap?
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I'm getting used to it. It's a disappointment, but I'm able to pull it off...
I kinda like it. It has a slight purple tint that only seems to show up under florescent lighting. In most lighting, it actually looks like light gray with a little brown tint.
Just got a replacement stone grey due to 5 dead pixels on my grey banded Moto 360. Of course, the replacement has a dead pixel too, right along the edge The new band squeaks like crazy too! It sounds like a $.99 chew toy and feels much cheaper than the first grey leather band.
LostByte said:
Is anybody happy with the new stone color strap?
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I exchanged the stone leather band the second I received my m360 - IMO it is ugly. Luckily, I was able to buy a new dark grey band (which I really like) off a generous fellow forum member.
etc6849 said:
Just got a replacement stone grey due to 5 dead pixels on my grey banded Moto 360. Of course, the replacement has a dead pixel too, right along the edge The new band squeaks like crazy too! It sounds like a $.99 chew toy and feels much cheaper than the first grey leather band.
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Lol mine squeaks also, and is very stiff. Don't really care for the color ether. But I'm going to order a Ss band once I find one I like. Didn't care for the pebble. Didn't match close enough IMO.
I didn't even know I had ordered a Stone version I thought that was just the name for the Gray one. My main focus was the color of the watch itself thinking that I'll be able to use a bigger variety of bands over the black one. I am disappointed with the color and WOULD BUY A GRAY BAND in a heart beat. On the upside, its kind of neutral looking, I find that it matches a lot of watch faces.
No, it is hideous, far too stiff, was already marred right out of the box, and as others have noted, squeaks like crazy every time it is moved.
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It's hideous. I really wish I had gotten the dark gray watch band I had originally ordered (order was lost and I had to wait until the second wave). But for now it'll do I suppose. It does look REALLY purple under the lighting both at home and work. Sunlight it's okay. I guess. Kinda.
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It's hideous. I really wish I had gotten the dark gray watch band I had originally ordered (order was lost and I had to wait until the second wave). But for now it'll do I suppose. It does look REALLY purple under the lighting both at home and work. Sunlight it's okay. I guess. Kinda.
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Agree. Fugly. No doubt someone at Motorola needs to be fired.
The dark gray band and silver watch look better than black. And black looks better than purple gray and silver. But, I would never purchase the purple gray and silver watch. I have purchased both the dark gray and black watches.
Amazing. Motorola gets the design right with round watch, but kills sales with a purple band. Well, unless some "fashion idiots" actually like purple and purchase purple by the millions. ROFL
There are many design flaws in the Moto 360 so it will never be a huge success. Maybe (or maybe not) Motorola (or someone else) will actually create and sell *Official* bands for the Moto 360 in various colors so consumers can choose their own. If the purple bands kill sales however, we may never see *Official* bands in other colors.
The sooner the purple bands are gone from the market the better. Wake up Morontorola!
i dyed mine black. it is worth wearing out in public now.
Just returned my purple/stone Moto 360 today. I wanted to love it, but just couldn't bring myself to it. I was kicking myself after the dark grey sold out because I had no idea it was a "limited edition launch-only color." Oh well... Now I'm holding out for the SS metal band version for $300. Rumors put that launch date in November. I hope it comes out sooner though.
I think the stone color is absolutely gorgeous and unique looking. I've never seen a leather watch band quite that color. I get a LOT of compliments on it.
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So even though I strongly dislike it, I ended up keeping the watch with stone band because it's such a hassle to get the color I actually ordered. And now, I'm regretting that. Why? Because this leather is cheap and nasty, and I'm stuck with it.
I went for a brisk walk earlier. It's a cool day here, but I sweated just slightly -- not enough that I had to wipe my brow, or even close to that, just a very light sweat. The watch band, though, has dyed my wrist purple, and any area of the band that came into contact with sweat has stained and discolored significantly darker. (And that extends around onto the front of the small straps that hold the excess strap down, so it's visible while wearing it.)
This band is terrible, and I strongly recommend avoiding it.
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So even though I strongly dislike it, I ended up keeping the watch with stone band because it's such a hassle to get the color I actually ordered. And now, I'm regretting that. Why? Because this leather is cheap and nasty, and I'm stuck with it.
I went for a brisk walk earlier. It's a cool day here, but I sweated just slightly -- not enough that I had to wipe my brow, or even close to that, just a very light sweat. The watch band, though, has dyed my wrist purple, and any area of the band that came into contact with sweat has stained and discolored significantly darker. (And that extends around onto the front of the small straps that hold the excess strap down, so it's visible while wearing it.)
This band is terrible, and I strongly recommend avoiding it.
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Wow. Shocking. Great post.
Motorola shortcut quality and design of the purple stone gray watch bands to make a quick buck. TOTAL FAIL.
Motorola has really bombed with the stone gray watch band. This will *kill* Moto 360 sales. I've noticed BestBuy has "in stock" on Stone Gray at at least 10 local BestBuy stores (almost all of them). Surely, no one likes them. BestBuy is even obscuring the in stock status on their website - unless you know how to get it. I have some doubts now they might be motivated to hide the fact the stone gray are *not* selling.
I gave a 2 hour Meetup presentation on the Moto 360 last week to a lot of people. I told them to avoid the purple band, e.g. I would never buy the purple band, but *this* (new info) is really damaging to the Moto 360 brand.
I guess its time for Motorola to promote the person responsible and write off the Moto 360 sales of purple stone gray.
Even Google Play refuses to put up current pictures of the Moto 360 with the purple bands. WTF?
Bob Smith42 said:
Wow. Shocking. Great post.
Motorola shortcut quality and design of the purple stone gray watch bands to make a quick buck. TOTAL FAIL.
Motorola has really bombed with the stone gray watch band. This will *kill* Moto 360 sales. I've noticed BestBuy has "in stock" on Stone Gray at at least 10 local BestBuy stores (almost all of them). Surely, no one likes them. BestBuy is even obscuring the in stock status on their website - unless you know how to get it. I have some doubts now they might be motivated to hide the fact the stone gray are *not* selling.
I gave a 2 hour Meetup presentation on the Moto 360 last week to a lot of people. I told them to avoid the purple band, e.g. I would never buy the purple band, but *this* (new info) is really damaging to the Moto 360 brand.
I guess its time for Motorola to promote the person responsible and write off the Moto 360 sales of purple stone gray.
Even Google Play refuses to put up current pictures of the Moto 360 with the purple bands. WTF?
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I just returned my stone grey back to Best Buy here in West Palm beach for pixels. They had none in stock but did notice the watch they had on display (floor sample) had a very darker grey band, not like the stone grey. It looked beautiful. I really like that dark grey so think I'll wait some more to see if they come back out with that color again.
Bob Smith42 said:
Wow. Shocking. Great post.
Motorola shortcut quality and design of the purple stone gray watch bands to make a quick buck. TOTAL FAIL.
Motorola has really bombed with the stone gray watch band. This will *kill* Moto 360 sales. I've noticed BestBuy has "in stock" on Stone Gray at at least 10 local BestBuy stores (almost all of them). Surely, no one likes them. BestBuy is even obscuring the in stock status on their website - unless you know how to get it. I have some doubts now they might be motivated to hide the fact the stone gray are *not* selling.
I gave a 2 hour Meetup presentation on the Moto 360 last week to a lot of people. I told them to avoid the purple band, e.g. I would never buy the purple band, but *this* (new info) is really damaging to the Moto 360 brand.
I guess its time for Motorola to promote the person responsible and write off the Moto 360 sales of purple stone gray.
Even Google Play refuses to put up current pictures of the Moto 360 with the purple bands. WTF?
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seriously... there was some dye left on the band that did not get washed off. one guy says he had some bleeding of the dye and all of the sudden moto had a "TOTAL FAIL". the band is ugly i have to say... but there is no difference in it and the other bands except for the color. they are all cheap horween bands. bonded with glue and the bonding is covered up with some dyed plasticy stuff on the sides. just as it has been done ever since i was a kid.
to tell people not to buy something because you don't like the color is a bit foolish don't you think? uninformed much?
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seriously... there was some dye left on the band that did not get washed off. one guy says he had some bleeding of the dye and all of the sudden moto had a "TOTAL FAIL". the band is ugly i have to say... but there is no difference in it and the other bands except for the color. they are all cheap horween bands. bonded with glue and the bonding is covered up with some dyed plasticy stuff on the sides. just as it has been done ever since i was a kid.
to tell people not to buy something because you don't like the color is a bit foolish don't you think? uninformed much?
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We disagree. Your hypothetical dye answer is uninformed, as are comments by non-owners. But, typically, the messenger gets shot by some people wearing blinders. Clearly the light band (purple stone gray) stains badly with sweat, because even my dark gray has sweat marks - but stains are much less visible on darker bands. There are many other Moto 360 design flaws, but stone gray bands are killing sales. Yet, I think Motorola should gift you a watch for your threads on color dye and leather band options.
I suggest everyone informs themselves by checking out their own ZIP Code for BestBuy stock. My ZIP Code in North Carolina has twenty three stores with In Stock - Pick Up Today. The 37075 ZIP in TN has twenty four stores with In Stock - Pick Up Today.
There are only two color choices. The Black is out of stock. The dark Gray is discontinued. The dark gray sold on eBay for at least $10 to $20 more than black, based on my observations. I have not checked purple stone gray prices on eBay yet. Popularity of the Moto 360 will likely determine if additional *official* bands will ever be available for sale - I predict failure here too.
My facts are *informed* information for everyone at my Meetup group and this is why the purple stone gray is TOTAL FAIL.
UPDATE: The people using unofficial steel bands and cracking the backs of their watches are a HUGE problem for Motorola because Motorola has released no alternative *official* bands, and any common (non proprietary) steel watch band will likely break your watch back. Once people figure out how this limits their style choices on the Moto 360 the sales will suffer greatly. I almost returned mine the day I realized backs crack with pebble steel bands - and why.
I'm a sweaty guy and I've ran/worked out with my purple/stone band for the past week... mine hasn't had any issue (other then the normal odor of sweaty leather :cyclops: ).
I'm also a huge watch nut. I've paid more for a leather strap that cost more then the Moto 360 more times then my wife would like to count.. and the stone strap isn't a bad strap (for its price). The stone color is unique, you either like it or you don't... but to judge a watch by its strap is hilarious ("I took mine back because i didn't like the color"... really? )
Watch bands are 'accessories'... Spend $10 on ebay and get a different strap! Or heck.. dye it black like a few people have done.
The more wear-and-tear i put on the stone color the more i like it... It actually looks like stone now!
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Do i wish i had the dark grey? sure... am i happy with the watch? YUP!

Official bands are here!!!!!!!

www.engadget.com/2014/11/06/moto360-metal-bands/?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000602
http://www.engadget.com/2014/09/05/...vity&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=pulsenews
And they are expanding the leather options with some from DODO case, PLUS they are finally adding the winning watch face from the face-off contest!
What happened to the good looking one in all the promo shots?
Is it me or are there still no links to actually purchase the band's separately?
Takin Notes..
Yup.. Seems like they ain't releasing the bands separately
So they're here, but not here. Thanks Motorola.
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What happened to the good looking one in all the promo shots?
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Indeed, that one looks much better. This new one looks crap.
Apparently ATT has the bands available individually now...
http://www.droid-life.com/2014/11/0...al-individual-watch-bands-right-now-from-att/
I can't tell if the "Gray Lether" is the initial Gray, or the Stone Gray (Based on Moto's Blog it should be STONE Gray)
Amazon has a listing for the "Dark Metal" band -> http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Mobi...sbs_cps_2?ie=UTF8&refRID=0B9DJ4AVD63GXN0XAJB7 but its not available yet.
$80 for the metal bands?????????????????????????????????????????????
Thats crazy.
Are these bands even available for pickup anywhere? Or is this online order only
Went into an AT&T store today and the people there said that it's online order only.
More coming...
I missed that there are pictures of the future bands are available at -> https://drive.google.com/?tab=mo&authuser=0&pli=1#folders/0B8Kpi4PsQvSQVFBDRk1LOHA4ZGs
(link is found at the bottom of http://motorola-blog.blogspot.com/2014/11/moto-360-choose-watch-that-fits-your.html )
The pictures there show the Cognac_Leather, DoDo_Pumpkin_Tan, Dodo_Red, Dodo_Slate_Blue, Dodo_Teal, Tylt_Black, Tylt_Navy, Tylt_Olive, Tylt_Purple
Kind of interesting.
I wonder when they will the rest will be available, and from where?
It's probably a little over priced, but I just ordered one of the silver steel bands. If it saves my plastic from cracking it's worth it. I tried a Pebble band and it's ok I'm just really nervous the back will crank, I even Dremeled it a bit but it doesn't seem to take much stress off the edge of the plastic bottom. I will post back with pictures and more details of how it turns out if you guys want. And I'm not willing to void my warranty installing the super engineer 2 band, or whatever it's called, which also costs 80$ for the band.
DrPopper said:
It's probably a little over priced, but I just ordered one of the silver steel bands. If it saves my plastic from cracking it's worth it. I tried a Pebble band and it's ok I'm just really nervous the back will crank, I even Dremeled it a bit but it doesn't seem to take much stress off the edge of the plastic bottom. I will post back with pictures and more details of how it turns out if you guys want. And I'm not willing to void my warranty installing the super engineer 2 band, or whatever it's called, which also costs 80$ for the band.
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Do post pictures of how the band fits into the watch, when you have it installed. [emoji4]
DrPopper said:
It's probably a little over priced, but I just ordered one of the silver steel bands. If it saves my plastic from cracking it's worth it. I tried a Pebble band and it's ok I'm just really nervous the back will crank, I even Dremeled it a bit but it doesn't seem to take much stress off the edge of the plastic bottom. I will post back with pictures and more details of how it turns out if you guys want. And I'm not willing to void my warranty installing the super engineer 2 band, or whatever it's called, which also costs 80$ for the band.
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do you have a link for the silver band?
Im concerned about the size of the bands. Im at rep at AT&T, and when we got in the moto 360 with the dark metal band i tried it on. It was really tight! Im a big guy, but not big enough were my wrists would be above average girth, so for an average male those bands are small. Are they sold in sizes? Can you add links to the band? I looked inside the box and there were no extra links. Am I going to have to buy the watch that comes with the metal band AND buy an additional metal band just to get links out of it to add to the main? Anyone know?
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Im concerned about the size of the bands. Im at rep at AT&T, and when we got in the moto 360 with the dark metal band i tried it on. It was really tight! Im a big guy, but not big enough were my wrists would be above average girth, so for an average male those bands are small. Are they sold in sizes? Can you add links to the band? I looked inside the box and there were no extra links. Am I going to have to buy the watch that comes with the metal band AND buy an additional metal band just to get links out of it to add to the main? Anyone know?
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Everywhere I've read has said it comes with 4 extra links. One guy said he couldn't find them like you, but upon further inspection of the packaging, they were in a little paper envelope. Maybe you just missed it?
charesa39 said:
Everywhere I've read has said it comes with 4 extra links. One guy said he couldn't find them like you, but upon further inspection of the packaging, they were in a little paper envelope. Maybe you just missed it?
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Its possible! I inspected the box very quickly because I was on the clock, lol. I will check again first thing tomorrow! Just to be sure, you are referring to the watch that already comes with the band, not the band by itself, correct?
darkleafar said:
Its possible! I inspected the box very quickly because I was on the clock, lol. I will check again first thing tomorrow! Just to be sure, you are referring to the watch that already comes with the band, not the band by itself, correct?
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Correct. The one that costs $299 and comes with the metal band instead of the leather band. I've been holding out this entire time for the metal band version to finally be released, and I ordered it from Best Buy today. Getting it shipped to store, so should be here in a few days. Can't wait.
Has anyone actually found the metal band in the wild yet, or is AT&T the only place you can get them? For anyone who has ordered from AT&T, how long did it take to get the band?

Huawei spare bands

Has anyone found the banda up for sale online? I bought the "Milanese" SS mesh one and I really like it but j wanted a spare one because I tend to break things. Its very well made but I will find a way to break it in some clumbsy way. A variety of bands would be nice with the quick change pins being a marketing point too.
Coming soon... http://www.gethuawei.com/buy-huawei-watch#bands
Pilz said:
Has anyone found the banda up for sale online? I bought the "Milanese" SS mesh one and I really like it but j wanted a spare one because I tend to break things. Its very well made but I will find a way to break it in some clumbsy way. A variety of bands would be nice with the quick change pins being a marketing point too.
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From the website:
Covart said:
From the website:
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Thanks for posting that, I'll have to look at them.
Edit: I wonder why they are so expensive because I can buy a nice watch band from other real watch companies for that price. I was looking for a black Milanese loop to add contrast to the design as an alternative but not for $80-170 with the leather likely being $80, then the Milanese ~100-120, steel $150 and the gold steel and/fancy leather one sitting at $170. That's just my guess of their pricing scale
I have the stainless but want the mesh.
AfroCreame said:
I have the stainless but want the mesh.
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The Milanese mesh is really nice, I just wish a spare wasn't so expensive. If the watch were a Tag or Omega I would spend whatever on a band but it's a smart watch. I tend to break things so having a backup is usually what I do
Pilz said:
The Milanese mesh is really nice, I just wish a spare wasn't so expensive. If the watch were a Tag or Omega I would spend whatever on a band but it's a smart watch. I tend to break things so having a backup is usually what I do
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I have the mesh, and it's very nice looking. However, the clasp is big time PITA. It's very awkward. Almost makes me wish they had one like...The Apple Watch. Sorry...
c5d said:
I have the mesh, and it's very nice looking. However, the clasp is big time PITA. It's very awkward. Almost makes me wish they had one like...The Apple Watch. Sorry...
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How is it a PITA? Mine covered l closes easily and stays put
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How is it a PITA? Mine covered l closes easily and stays put
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It're really more of a minor thing...but enough for me to complain about it...
There are times that I "think" I have it fully clasped, but it really isn't. It's like I need to make sure the clasp clicks twice. There was one time I only "did the click once", and I thought it was closed, but wasn't. Watch came off during apple picking...yay (sarcasm...to both the watch and the apple picking). However, I understand that's an end-user issue...but still...
The more of the PITA situation is trying to get it on. I find I have to hold the watch against my chest, stomach, or thigh and then play "thread the needle" with the sliding part of the band into the clasp. It's not super convenient. Also, tightening the band is fairly difficult. Maybe I don't have enough experience with watch clasps (I had a leather band on my Moto360, and I had a link clasp on my previous Citizen), but putzing with this clasp and band is a little more difficult that I thought it would be. Again, if you compare this mesh band and clasp versus the Apple Watch mesh band and magnetic clasp...the Apple product is easier to use. But then...I'd have to use an iPhone...
Is this super difficult? No. Does it make me wish I had a different band? No. Will I still gripe about it? Of course...this is a forum on the Internet...
c5d said:
It're really more of a minor thing...but enough for me to complain about it...
There are times that I "think" I have it fully clasped, but it really isn't. It's like I need to make sure the clasp clicks twice. There was one time I only "did the click once", and I thought it was closed, but wasn't. Watch came off during apple picking...yay (sarcasm...to both the watch and the apple picking). However, I understand that's an end-user issue...but still...
The more of the PITA situation is trying to get it on. I find I have to hold the watch against my chest, stomach, or thigh and then play "thread the needle" with the sliding part of the band into the clasp. It's not super convenient. Also, tightening the band is fairly difficult. Maybe I don't have enough experience with watch clasps (I had a leather band on my Moto360, and I had a link clasp on my previous Citizen), but putzing with this clasp and band is a little more difficult that I thought it would be. Again, if you compare this mesh band and clasp versus the Apple Watch mesh band and magnetic clasp...the Apple product is easier to use. But then...I'd have to use an iPhone...
Is this super difficult? No. Does it make me wish I had a different band? No. Will I still gripe about it? Of course...this is a forum on the Internet...
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Mien has a very distinctive click when I close it so it's hard to not know if it's closed. Apple makes things simple for people who don't understand/know technology so I can see why they used a magnet. I understand how you might not be able to tell its closed because if it's not lined up with one of the notches on the underside it won't close, but if it is lined up its very easy to tell. I regularly bused a leather band both of my LG Urbane and my mechanical watch so it is a chance but no one that's hard to get used to. I like the metal one personally because leather wears out much faster from experience, even expensive quality leather bands. I gave a buffalo leather on my mechanical watch that's really nice but after a year it needs replacing because it loses its nice look. I'm trying to find a nice Milanese band like the Huawei one but for my mechanical watch because I really enjoy the look/feel of it.
I actually wish they made a sport band so that I could wear it while working out or doing any sort of physical activity.
I just installed a third party stainless steel mesh band onto a black Huawei watch. Purchased the band on Amazon. For being really inexpensive ($10) it is actually not that bad :thumbup: It's fairly comfortable and smooth, with no sharp links or rough edges on the band itself. Clasp feels a little cheap but sturdy enough. Again, no sharp corners or anything.
It doesn't have quick release spring bars, unfortunately. But it was not hard to install. Took less than 2 minutes using regular spring bars, and I was being ultra careful so as not to scratch the black coating of the watch. I could probably do it in less than 30 secs next time.
Also, it is not a feed through mechanism. It's the "interlocking" type. So that's a plus for those who find the feed through type a pain.
There's several of these around, and I'm sure they're pretty comparable with other cheap bands. Here's the link to the actual one I tried: https://goo.gl/P8alWI
When are they due out?
I wish I could find the black mesh band that was in some of the early promotional pics of the watch.
I found this one on Amazon. I wonder how good it is.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...eather Band&qid=1444831623&ref_=sr_1_1&sr=8-1
falcon26 said:
I found this one on Amazon. I wonder how good it is.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...eather Band&qid=1444831623&ref_=sr_1_1&sr=8-1
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Hmm, their Apple Watch bands seem to get good reviews: 4/5 stars on most of them. I may order one of these tonight.
I wonder if this would work: http://www.amazon.com/Voguestrap-TX...=8-26&keywords=18mm+watch+strap+leather+casio
Hanger4life said:
I wish I could find the black mesh band that was in some of the early promotional pics of the watch.
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Please message me if you do. My black watch is shipping and I would love to get the black mesh one. So sexy on the black watch.
Here's my band, a third party Mesh Band that's 99.9% similar to the OEM Mesh Band and has quick release pins. Designed for the Huawei and feels nice, had it for a week now! http://imgur.com/a/B1Onc
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=161889778218&alt=web
c5d said:
I have the mesh, and it's very nice looking. However, the clasp is big time PITA. It's very awkward. Almost makes me wish they had one like...The Apple Watch. Sorry...
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Have to agree, I have the mesh and I like the looks and the ~infinite adjustment, but it's a royal PITA to put on.
I would love a black leather band for my black Hwatch. Anybody found one? Would prefer not a straight 18mm.

What's with the 'M' at the bottom?

So I am on a limited budget and I've found this seller on a local site.
The watch looks fine and he is kind enough to give 2 leather straps with it. However, I am not sure what the 'M' logo is at the bottom?
Look like a sticker. But he is saying its not a sticker.
Can anyone be kind enough to help me and tell me what this is?

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