So much for monthly updates - G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I was a bit excited when LG stepped up (late in the game) to say that they would be offering monthly updates, and not wait for M to fix bugs/security issues. Well it looks like 5.1.1 is once again scrapped and we will get another bug filled first edition of the latest offerings from Android.
With mediocre sales of the g4 and not tremendous changes from the g3, they just don't get it. Following the path of HTC is not a stellar move on LG's part. Heck, even HTC has been sending out updates.
Very disappointed LG.

What's the source for this? The articles I see flip flop between "updates are coming" and "wait for M"

http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/help/update-t3188230 the guy in this thread is claiming he's got an update for 5.1.1

wozzels said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/help/update-t3188230 the guy in this thread is claiming he's got an update for 5.1.1
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Also LG g3 is receving a new update ( i don't know which version)
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So guys..is it true that our g4 is getting the update??
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I made a post about it but I'm not sure what it could be, to be completely honest it could be a small patch or a whole new system update. The reason Im saying it could be a new system update is first off no patch or small update is 300mb big, it just doesn't make sense ( unless it's updating alot of the hardware then okay but still 300Mb?) I'm almost done the update and I'm going to try to figure what it is. If its Android m then 0)
It's its Android 5.1.1 then 0)
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I made a post about it but I'm not sure what it could be, to be completely honest it could be a small patch or a whole new system update. The reason Im saying it could be a new system update is first off no patch or small update is 300mb big, it just doesn't make sense ( unless it's updating alot of the hardware then okay but still 300Mb?) I'm almost done the update and I'm going to try to figure what it is. If its Android m then 0)
It's its Android 5.1.1 then 0)
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So it's still android 5.1? Which version? V10f?
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I called and spoke with LG today and all I got from them is that M will be made available for G4.
I think when the sales numbers came in, and the G4 was nowhere near expectations, they reverted back to M will be the next update. Again, just my thoughts.
Just frustrated they went from no updates until M, to monthly updates, back to no upgrades until M. Simply just poor customer support.

still on 10b skipping and heating problems trying to speak to lg in the UK is useless punting this p.o.s handset and picking up a note 5.
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Useless is more than they deserve . I was read a one line scripted text.

I'm on 10c and I hope there never will be an update. This is the perfect phone, everything is working as it should, everything is smooth and flawless. The battery could be better, but that's not a software issue on 10c. I will buy this phone again if I drop and break it within a year.

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Useless is more than they deserve . I was read a one line scripted text.
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Did you expect the head engineer to conduct a conference call with you and share every bit of coding progress or something? Serious question.

Don't be a dumb a$$. Not worth my time.

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Heeeey
This is my first post here.
Here's is my comment and response on LG India page. everything is clear
Seems that LG is going to upgrade all his smartphones to 4.4 together
akahroba said:
Heeeey
This is my first post here.
Here's is my comment and response on LG India page. everything is clear
Seems that LG is going to upgrade all his smartphones to 4.4 together
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Is not very clear.. we know how this is.
But is a very good new.:good:
If I'm not mistaken it's not LG that replied to your comment but some random dude. So it doesn't mean anything. But on the other hand even LG had lied about updates in the past.
So don't get your up too much.
if it's true what he said he didn't mentioned our model, and i don't believe in that story until i see update on my e975 for 4.4
In consideration of all the other kitkat update claims, its either a very ballsy, stupid or genius first XDA post...time will tell.
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jordy1990 said:
If I'm not mistaken it's not LG that replied to your comment but some random dude. So it doesn't mean anything. But on the other hand even LG had lied about updates in the past.
So don't get your up too much.
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as he says we're working I don't think that he's a random guy. and you know, LG admins don not have the right to announce anything until they arre told to do. So they act more conservative. look at the screenshot attached. Some information are company confidential. But the employees are more free to do it. I mean even if he's not true about next month he must be true about the coming of the update.
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if it's true what he said he didn't mentioned our model, and i don't believe in that story until i see update on my e975 for 4.4
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Well, Optimus g is optimus g. my model is e975 too. and this one must be the first to get it. becaause AT&T models should be customized and also requested by AT&T... International ones are the ones supported directly by LG.
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In consideration of all the other kitkat update claims, its either a very ballsy, stupid or genius first XDA post...time will tell.
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I hope it won't be the first one
One again, a "no-news" and a lack of reliable source...
Don't get me wrong, I'd like the KK update as anyone else but what is provided here is just enough to built hope on some, nothing more.
No reliable source, nothing official, and, IMHO, someone using terms like "dude" on a responce is far from beleivable. I don't know what is "confirmed" by this screen, but it's nothing but hot air!
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One again, a "no-news" and a lack of reliable source...
Don't get me wrong, I'd like the KK update as anyone else but what is provided here is just enough to built hope on some, nothing more.
No reliable source, nothing official, and, IMHO, someone using terms like "dude" on a responce is far from beleivable. I don't know what is "confirmed" by this screen, but it's nothing but hot air!
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We're going to receive it man. believe me. By the way, I can't see any dude in his response
His reply:
"Dude's new all LG smartphones are too gud..."
IMHO, sound juvenile!
And I do HOPE we receive an update, but will all due respect, don't expect anyone to believe you unless you provide solid proof.
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His reply:
"Dude's new all LG smartphones are too gud..."
IMHO, sound juvenile!
And I do HOPE we receive an update, but will all due respect, don't expect anyone to believe you unless you provide solid proof.
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Cannot see the word Dude mentioned in this thread before your posts and in any case, I'm not bothered what words are used to describe hopeful software updates for our devices
Also, belief in something is personal and I'm happy to at least hope for future updates based on this thread
As I'm sure other people are too
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I want to believe that our LGOG will get KitKat next month, but considering that not even G2 has it, I don't think that it's possible.. Maybe 1, 2 months after G2 - if LG decides to respect their customers..
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I want to believe that our LGOG will get KitKat next month, but considering that not even G2 has it, I don't think that it's possible.. Maybe 1, 2 months after G2 - if LG decides to respect their customers..
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The G2 already has 4.4 In Korea tho.
World wide, I meant.
Let's study the situation a bit deeper.
reasons we get the update:
1. if we consider the 18 months period of recieving updates, we still have 4 months left. G was released in October, 2012
2. I think except for the initial batch, most of the devices had Jelly bean 4.1.2 while being sold and they still have the same version. So there should be at least an update to a higher version.
3. Physically the device has all the potentials to be upgraded to kitkat and as a previous flagship deserves to get it.
4. the leaked news says that they were testing kitkat on both g pro and g. Now that they are releasing the update for g pro by the end of Q2. There should be an update for g as well since we know that the device doesn't lack anything to run kitkat smoothly.
resons no to get it
1. Why should a company care for a phone from 2012 while there are so many other new phones 2013 onward?
Well I think we have more reasons to get it than not to get it.
to get or not to get. this is the question
and look
Samsung officially announced the models which will get kitkat. Among them you can see Note 2 which was released in September, 2012 and Galaxy S3 which was released in July, 2012!!
So let's keep our fingers crossed :angel:
humm... i think we`re going to be in 4.1 forever :s
i think this guy forgot to add this screenshot ... in this image you can see the official (As usual) Announcement of 4.4 update to G....
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i think this guy forgot to add this screenshot ... in this image you can see the official (As usual) Announcement of 4.4 update to G....
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They give the same answer on the phone and on fb page in Latvia.
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i think this guy forgot to add this screenshot ... in this image you can see the official (As usual) Announcement of 4.4 update to G....
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And where is the announcement in that?
Standard canned response telling nothing at all. They'll forward the request! Dosen't mean LGOG is getting anything as of now.
Heeeeeeey
I didn't forget anything. I have written the question everywhere and I've got the same response as the one you attached. I myself attached one last page.
They are not allowed to announce anything. Actually they don't know anything. They are simply page admins. Whenever they say something it's not true or exact. No one knows exactly when everything will be ready but I believe it will be ready one day not so far from today.

[Q] LG G3 and our friend Android L

Do you guys think LG will be quick to update their device(s) to the new version of android once its out? I have high hopes given their recent record of impressive releases, sort of like a Motorola-esque turn around.
I reckon it will take them 3 months after L is out by Google
LG will not take too long, but Verizon will as usual take months to deliver an OTA of the original and buggy Android L, if ever, while LG and Google have released many improved builds in the interrum which Verizon may never ship.
As evidence, see history, including the fact that so far Verizon has released none of LG's builds of 4.4.2 past v10b it initially shipped with.
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LG will not take too long, but Verizon will as usual take months to deliver an OTA of the original and buggy Android L, if ever, while LG and Google have released many improved builds in the interrum which Verizon may never ship.
As evidence, see history, including the fact that so far Verizon has released none of LG's builds of 4.4.2 past v10b it initially shipped with.
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They are one of the slowest when it comes to firmware updates.
Their flagship G2 received 4.4.2 in the final days of March 2014. Nexus 5 was released in October 2013. Go ahead and count the months yourself
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LG will not take too long, but Verizon will as usual take months to deliver an OTA of the original and buggy Android L, if ever, while LG and Google have released many improved builds in the interrum which Verizon may never ship.
As evidence, see history, including the fact that so far Verizon has released none of LG's builds of 4.4.2 past v10b it initially shipped with.
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Non of the us versions actually received update beside tmobile...that's only because they had their wifi calling update and they snucked some things in there for the lg users, including some bug fixes. US is simply horrendous wiht updates lol
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They are one of the slowest when it comes to firmware updates.
Their flagship G2 received 4.4.2 in the final days of March 2014. Nexus 5 was released in October 2013. Go ahead and count the months yourself
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This is precisely what I was concerned with, while their history isn't to great, neither is any other manufacturers with the exception of Nexus branded and Google Play Edition devices. However, LG seems to have turned a new leaf with their "homerun" G3, the G Watch, and the anticipated G Watch R . Here's to hoping a timely update. I have the bootloader unlocked T-Mo version, but there is limited development at the moment.
Don't hold your breath. And even if LG does get L out quick, don't expect it to look like pure L.
Hope we will get unlocked bootloader by that time
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This is precisely what I was concerned with, while their history isn't to great, neither is any other manufacturers with the exception of Nexus branded and Google Play Edition devices. However, LG seems to have turned a new leaf with their "homerun" G3, the G Watch, and the anticipated G Watch R . Here's to hoping a timely update. I have the bootloader unlocked T-Mo version, but there is limited development at the moment.
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HTC is great with updates, Moto X is too. Hopefully LG realizes that this something that people who buy flagship phones care about
Im thinking 3 months or sooner after android l is finalized for us. Considering we re a flagship phone im hoping sooner.
Eventually it will come but not as fast as the One Plus or nexus devices and i think even the One M8.
But we will see maybe they surprise us i don't know. What i know is LG not that good at the quick updates so far.
lol we are still in 4.4.2
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lol we are still in 4.4.2
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They're not going to update us to 4.4.4
They're going to jump us up to 5...
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xRamz said:
They're not going to update us to 4.4.4
They're going to jump us up to 5...
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i know but still
Well i know that now all major OEM get new android version code 6 months in advance so they can beta test in and prepare before it comes out so i think it should arrive 1 month or 2 after oct
I hope you guys are right and we see it soon but I think you are all dreaming. LG's track record is horrific when it comes to updates and there is no better way to predict the future than to look at the last. If they had turned over a new leaf this phone wouldn't have shipped with 442
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They're not going to update us to 4.4.4
They're going to jump us up to 5...
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Why? and When is 5 out?
robber said:
I hope you guys are right and we see it soon but I think you are all dreaming. LG's track record is horrific when it comes to updates and there is no better way to predict the future than to look at the last. If they had turned over a new leaf this phone wouldn't have shipped with 442
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They oficially announced it saying that android L will come in max 3 months after the public release after this year's google I/O.
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They oficially announced it saying that android L will come in max 3 months after the public release after this year's google I/O.
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Source?
What source did this come from?

Android L in question?

According to this source, LG has not released any good info on if or when we will see the update, unlike many other manufacturers have stated.
http://m.techradar.com/news/phone-a...l-5-0-release-date-when-can-i-get-it--1257804
Yeah I saw that as well this was my first LG may be my last if this is true
Who cares until its a week plus since the other manufacturers release L? The other guys may have a approximate date but that means nothing (the past proves this statement). For all we know lg will be the first non nexus device to get it pushed out.
Good news? http://www.geeky-gadgets.com/lg-g3-android-lollipop-update-may-land-by-end-of-2014-24-10-2014/
Even once it's released. How many will actually update before a root method is out there for it. lol
Do you think T-Mobile might lock the device down when it releases this update? If they don't, does that make it easier to root? I am just one of those impatient always want the new shiny thing guys
i see a nexus 6 in my future. i am going to wait for the officail lollipop release for the nexus 4 (my back up phone) then install that, sell the G3 and put the money toward my nexus 6..... i tried but i just cant get used to the skins, and i miss cynaogenmod with a working camera.
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i see a nexus 6 in my future. i am going to wait for the officail lollipop release for the nexus 4 (my back up phone) then install that, sell the G3 and put the money toward my nexus 6..... i tried but i just cant get used to the skins, and i miss cynaogenmod with a working camera.
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Man I'm in the same boat. Using n5 and debating selling the g3. Good hardware laggy software. I'd keep it and use aosp if I knew it wasn't still a month or two away from working camera and BT. AND I DON'T KNOW THAT lol just missed aosp.
I dont understand why people say the g3 is laggy. There's been post after post on how to get rid of any lag. Turn ART on. Reduce the scale of the animations. Blah blah blah. Read the forums. The phone might not be fast out of the box, but there's simple ways to make it faster. These devs will get the Roms done as long as everyone would search their forums instead of asking the same questions over and over again. Everyone is jumping ship because they don't have the ROM they want. Just be a little more patient. If you wanted a phone that's more on the cutting edge you should have bought or stayed with you nexus phone.
Really tho, with LGs last update, all that lag is literally gone.
Looks like we are supposed to get android lollipop by the end of the year! That's less than 2 months from the release! http://m.gsmarena.com/newscomm-10031.php
Confirmed.
http://www.androidguys.com/2014/10/27/good-news-lg-g3-g2-owners-will-get-android-5-0/
Yay! That is great news! It would be awesome if we got it before most of the other phone manufacturers. Thanks for the update.
This is just another rumor. "An lg rep said we should get it before the end of the year. "
That does not sound definite but at least possible, maybe probable.
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This is just another rumor. "An lg rep said we should get it before the end of the year. "
That does not sound definite but at least possible, maybe probable.
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It was posted on an official LG Twitter account. Pretty sure it's not a rumor.
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I should not have used the word "rumor" but I'm just a bit hesitant to believe anything when the word "probably" is used.
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So would this be for the international version? It would then go to the carriers after that right? From past experiences, T-Mobile has been slower than other carriers about updates
http://androidcommunity.com/lg-confirms-android-lollipop-coming-to-g3-and-g2-as-well-20141028/
I will believe it when i see it. This may be my last LG though if they dont get their update game in check. They are officially the WORST when it comes to updates IMO
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I will believe it when i see it. This may be my last LG though if they dont get their update game in check. They are officially the WORST when it comes to updates IMO
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I agree. I really love the g3 but am really wanting to install a fresh rom like cloudy but am not going to bother if we are getting this update. I can't wait for this version and for someone to do a nice clean no bloat lollipop rom!
It is the waiting that makes me miss the n4 I had for almost 2 years.
At that point I seriously think our lgs will be the very best.
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LG G3 dosnt update via LGMobile support Tool

Hello guys I have the LG g3 d 85110r of course the white one but for some reason the LG mobile support tool doesn't update Android 5.0 and there OTA update either any idea guys Thanks
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Hello guys I have the LG g3 d 85110r of course the white one but for some reason the LG mobile support tool doesn't update Android 5.0 and there OTA update either any idea guys Thanks
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This is a BIG mystery and I have combed the various forums around and came to XDA for definitive answers which there appears little. Perhaps because xda is primarily concerned with custom roms, and not incidental stock roms. Personally I thought I would go with the stock rom now, then move to a custom 5.1 rom or later rom when that came out considering how LG seems to be dragging their feet. And to top *that* off it is now April and TMobile has NOT released the update to ALL phones as they have said they would on April 7 on their website.
So what is happening? The various forums are all over the map concerning this. Some are reporting that TMobile representatives are saying that there are problems with the update and that they have *halted* the rollout because of too many problems - and why they were preceding slowly in the first place (I understand that, but I do not understand how it takes three months and not work out all the bugs unless they have just one person working on it part time on the weekends. I'm not a programmer per se and *I* would have been faster). There was one uncomfirmed report of a phone(s) getting too hot.
Clearly the LG G3 page on the TMobile page that says "update available" is incorrect as there is no menu option to do an OTA update in the settings menu, which would indicate that the roll out was halted at some point. So that indicates that there have been problems with the initial update.
Well if that was not bad enough, there is another dreadful post from this forum http://disq.us/8mwajk that has this to say;
O.K. people this is what I was able to find out from T-mobile directly. First the update Lollipop has been release already for the LG G3 (white and black) with some caveats to it.
First the update comes from LG directly instead of Tmobile web servers, tmobile has approve the update and put their flavor on top of the lollipop that LG worked on, but the actual update come from LG servers. So LG is releasing the updates by batches with selected numbers of cell phones at the time ( i am assuming cause they will kill their servers if they do it all at once). Depending of the serial number you have is when you will get the Over The Air update OTA. This can take up to a MONTH yes up to a MONTH for some LG G3 users depending on you serial number, yes its bad cause I am on you same boat I still have not received the update myself so I have to wait for my time (if I am lucky with the lucky serial)or wait up to to a month. Tmobile actually can not do nothing to speed up or put you ahead of the list is the LG that is doing the updates.
Second is that if you really want to have the update to lollipop and you can not just wait any longer cause you will have a heart attack or die for depression. Well you can go to LG site and download a tool for pcs which you can force the update, yes it requires more steps like wiping out your phone and connecting to a PC (not a MAC like myself) but you can have lollipop. Tmobile assure me the LG site lollipop is the same version of lollipop of OTA version so there is nothing to worry about of been a difference version from each site.
Well there it is guys you can either wait, been lucky and get the text to update or go to LG and update it there. Its your choice but pls don't complain about tmobile they are doing their best to help us out if anything it will be LG not tmobile.
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I kind of disagree that this is LG's fault because they have had the update ready for the G3 since January and all the phones in Europe got it near that time. Which places the blame squarely at TMobiles feet. They could have plugged into LG's website last January like what they are appearing to do now. Which begs the question what have they been doing for the past three months exactly?
But really, they have an incentive to delay and drag their feet. Because if you really want the "latest" software, you'll need to buy a new phone with that. And the reason why you will not see 5.1 released anytime soon if at all for the G3. If you see 5.1 on the G4 when it is released and not the G3, that will prove my point outright.
Edit: Another possible reason for the three month delay is that TMobile has turned on VoLTE and added Wi-Fi Calling 2.0. They still could have upgraded to lollipop right away in January then rolled these into a 5.1 update when the bugs were worked out. But this contradicts that the software from both places is the same? I wonder how less of a carbon footprint and wasted energy they could have saved if they would have given everyone better battery life with lollipop back in January?
I cannot update mine as well. I am using the black LG G3 which I won from T Mobile's raffle.
When I try to upgrade it, it just says "No upgrade items to fix" or "No upgrade policy"
I do not know what to do with this. I want to update this badly.
I was told my white one wasn't getting til April 27th
amlaria said:
I was told my white one wasn't getting til April 27th
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This also is what happened with the LG G2. They upgraded white LG G2's after every one else. Which would fit in that they are doing it by "serial number batches." Because that would be only thing different between white and black units.
Unless there is a special magical "white powder" we did not know about! :laugh:
amlaria said:
I was told my white one wasn't getting til April 27th
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Who did you ask?
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Who did you ask?
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Tmo tech service. That is when my serial is being updated. I'm sure if you complain enough to raise your support ticket they can push your serial but I'm not in a rush since messing with 5.1 on nexus
amlaria said:
Tmo tech service. That is when my serial is being updated. I'm sure if you complain enough to raise your support ticket they can push your serial but I'm not in a rush since messing with 5.1 on nexus
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Do you have a white one
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Do you have a white one
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Yes D851SW
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Yes D851SW
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This is so sad I never thought lg was racist ?
I would like to congratulate everybody on bothering TMobile customer service so much that they were forced to post this to their LG G3 support page;
The LG G3 will be receiving the long awaited 5.0.1 software update in waves. This means that all devices will be getting the update, but not all at once. Because of this, please be patient if you haven't received the update yet! If you just can't wait any longer, there are instructions to manually download the update via PC in the software update document linked in the title.
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Google will be releasing 5.1.1 relatively soon. It will be telling to see how long it takes for TMobile to send that out. I don't see why it could not just be a small "patch" update without updating the whole phone.
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I would like to congratulate everybody on bothering TMobile customer service so much that they were forced to post this to their LG G3 support page;
Google will be releasing 5.1.1 relatively soon. It will be telling to see how long it takes for TMobile to send that out. I don't see why it could not just be a small "patch" update without updating the whole phone.
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Can i have a link to that page please
jailbreakkid23 said:
Can i have a link to that page please
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go here: support.t-mobile.com/community/phones-tablets-devices/android/lg-g3/places?filterID=all~objecttype~space
click "show details"

New OTA update - but it's still not Marshmallow.

Last night I decided to try a software update, with hopes that Marshmallow would be available. To my surprise, the phone did start downloading an update - but it was only 77MB in size. Apparently it's just another security update - PE3.
Exact same thing here this morning. -PE3 I guess purchasing ATT's flagship phone last year gets you a big slap in the face. It's pretty lousy.
Saw the available update and got excited. I should be used to disappointment from AT&T by now.
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I thought the same thing just cause my phone never told the size just seen the simple in corner thought it was mm. But nope
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I thought the same thing just cause my phone never told the size just seen the simple in corner thought it was mm. But nope
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it was done to stop sideloading is the theory that i'm going with.
Yeah pretty sad Verizon is sending it out before att......anytime now att lol
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