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I'm in the market for a new affordable phone and the fire phone was really looking like a winner until a local carrier started selling refurbished nexus 5 for $200CAD. I had a lengthy debate with one of my friends about which one to buy and at the end of it came out more confused. Since it looks like today is the last day to buy the fire phone, I need to make a decision today. Any advise?
Nexus 5
Fire phone has no custom Roms or custom kernels.
Not even a custom recovery.
I think it will never get anything of that.
I have Nexus 5 and fire phone
Got my Fire Phone from amazon.de for 10€ at a price fail.
Fire Phone is useless for me.
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I'm in the market for a new affordable phone and the fire phone was really looking like a winner until a local carrier started selling refurbished nexus 5 for $200CAD. I had a lengthy debate with one of my friends about which one to buy and at the end of it came out more confused. Since it looks like today is the last day to buy the fire phone, I need to make a decision today. Any advise?
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You're not going to get too many balanced opinion about this from XDA, this is an Android bias forum obviously (including me) and most people here probably bought the phone for cheap in order to root or hack it and are not big Amazon customers, they aren't using the phone for how it's intended.
I haven't used the Fire phone yet, but I would recommend the Nexus 5. Nexus phones will get you the latest version of Android which is ahead of Fire OS (which use Android as its base but is behind in version number). Currently Android is a more complete ecosystem. You will have a better experience overall. $200 is a great price for a Nexus 5 as well.
I bought the Fire phone because of the 1 year free prime membership so I see it as $100. If both phones are going for the same price I will take the Nexus 5 over the Fire phone. They are comparable in specs except for a few things. It's the software that make all the difference, and right now Android Lollipop is the most complete mobile OS and provide the best experience to me.
There are benefits of getting a Fire phone if you heavily relies on the Amazon ecosystem. Though unlike Google which do not have any of their apps on Amazon Appstore, Amazon have their apps available on the Google Playstore. So if you buy a Fire phone, you will miss out on Google apps (sideloading Google apps does not count). If you buy an Android phones, you can use both Google apps and Amazon apps, so it's more of a win win.
Well I guess that makes sense. I currently have a handful of other phones, but my most recent android phone is a galaxy nexus which is really failing me right now. I thought the fire phone would be a fun toy to play with and with the right tinkering maybe become my daily driver. It being stuck on android 4.2 and no custom roms really hurts it though.
My vote is Nexus 5. I like the hardware of the Fire better, but the N5 is nice too, and it wins hands down on software.
I had a Fire Phone for a while. I can tell you that it will disappoint you more than it will enrich your life and make you smile. When I bought the Fire Phone two months ago, Amazon was quick to toss out freebies to me in order to get me more entrenched into the ecosystem. Outside of Prime, it was fairly lackluster.
A Nexus 5 - be sure to buy the right device for your region (I didn't) - will serve you better.
choose nexus 5 for safe.
fire phone is not bad choice. i have been a heavy gmail service user for more than 3 years but i found fire phone quite usable. but fire os for phone is on 1st generation, which means somehow needs to be improved.
Here's the thing - a streamlined interface on the Fire Phone that was optimized for the device would make using it a lot less painful. As it is, the phone is slow and cumbersome for basic tasks.
Running on Android and based on Android result in different experiences. I'm sure on a tablet the Fire OS is nice. I would try a Fire Phone again if I could get it cheap.
Get the Nexus 5, I simply hate my Fire Phone with a strange passion.
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I'm in the UK and I was considering picking one of these up. I can get a brand new unlocked 32GB model for under £100.
Would I be mad to buy one? I've been reading lots of reviews from a year ago, but very few people speaking about using one today.
I bought one for essentially 30 dollars and it's fine for what it is. CM11 runs great, if you don't need a perfect camera.
£100 is probably a bit too much IMO. Better to go with a Moto G or even a Moto E at this time.
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I'm in the UK and I was considering picking one of these up. I can get a brand new unlocked 32GB model for under £100.
Would I be mad to buy one? I've been reading lots of reviews from a year ago, but very few people speaking about using one today.
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If you want a smartphone that many people are talking about and using today, then the Fire Phone will be a bad buy for you. If you just want a good cheap phone and you are an Amazon prime member and the phone come with 1 free year of prime, then the phone will be a good buy. If you subtract £79 for prime from £100, the phone will cost you less than £21.
fire phone bought in the UK doesn't come with free prime membership anymore!
No prime no way! 100 is too much. Euros pounds or dollars.
Honestly, this thing, with google play installed blows both the Moto E and G out of the water. Has LTE ( e does not ), more ram, a better adreno processor, and all for less then 100 bucks. You guys are crazy if you think a moto G is as fast as the firephone cause it isnt. it becomes apparent when you try to play higher end games that the adreno 306 the 3rd gen G has isnt enough.
I updated to 4.6.3, installed the play store via the directions of an awesome poster on here, and put cheetah launcher to replace the fire launcher. Instant win. Id go for it and nab a fire.
FireOS is a key factor for me. If you like it things will work well. I couldn't stand it. If not you can install CM11 or SlimKat but will deal with some bugs like the camera. Those may get worked out though, who knows. I put on CM11 and love it and the bugs don't affect me much. I love the form factor, CM, and being rooted. In all cases any major updates are iffy. People are on the fence if it will get FireOS 5 or the bootloader unlocked. Without prime though I'd be on the fence about getting one.
Yes I'd get one. Might even get another for the Mrs if I can find a reputable source. I've had a Moto g and e. Currently have a nexus 4 and fire and fire is easily the best overall. Admittedly, not out of the box though.
I have two of them and a 2015 moto e and change among them frequently. The second one was $20 (after subtracting amazon prime with its state tax). I keep one rooted, Xposed, and use fireos, and the other with cm11/slimkat. The firephone is a great piece of hardware (the multi processor benchmark is higher than the oneplus one) that is hamstrung by a very mediocre OS, Amazon keeping some of the source code unavailable for the devs, and not letting folks unlock the bootloader.
I wouldn't buy it without Amazon Prime. But with Prime, it is at worst a good little camera or a gamer for kids at a cheap price. The moto e (2015 has lte) is a great little, inexpensive phone that does everything well - but not great. It's not the speediest, but it's always been fast enough for me.
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Honestly, this thing, with google play installed blows both the Moto E and G out of the water. Has LTE ( e does not ), more ram, a better adreno processor, and all for less then 100 bucks. You guys are crazy if you think a moto G is as fast as the firephone cause it isnt. it becomes apparent when you try to play higher end games that the adreno 306 the 3rd gen G has isnt enough.
I updated to 4.6.3, installed the play store via the directions of an awesome poster on here, and put cheetah launcher to replace the fire launcher. Instant win. Id go for it and nab a fire.
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I will concede hardware wise, Fire Phone wins out. But hardware isn't everything. You either have to stay on the atrocious Fire Phone OS or change to CM11 that has a wonky camera. While CM11 is nice, it's not going to get updated to CM12 or CM13 due to the lock bootloader and the camera is very likely not going to fixed as Amazon didn't properly source out their ****. Moto G is already on Lollipop and will likely be updated to what ever is after Marshmallow. And it has a working camera, same amount of ram, and bigger screen.
I got my unlocked refurb fire phone for $60 without Amazon Prime attached. It came with the box, headphone and charger. At first I was really skeptical of my decision... FireOS is really ugly.
But once I got root, supersu-me, and play store, I promptly installed Nova Launcher, which made my experience so much better: it was essentially a rooted Kitkat rom with an Amazon menu screen.
Compared to my previous device, Galaxy Note 2, the development is stunted because of its locked bootloader. However, it has more storage space and a much faster CPU.
My main gripe is the back swipe. I don't think I have any other alternatives to make that disappear other than installing CM 11. I can't do that because I need my snapchat lol. Another problem is the size.. 4.7 in and unwieldy sides cramp up my thumbs. In addition, the camera (stock or snapchat) can't focus correctly even after I wipe the lense, so I can't take advantage of OIS +digital zoomed photos.
Overall, I'm happy with my purchase. I think I can make it through with this device for a while. If the bootloader ever gets unlocked that'll be a treat.
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Got mine for 130€ from T-Mobile (in germany).
For this price it is a fantastic phone. Most of the software quirks can be easily worked around (root + gapps = win) and its hardware should be good enough for the next ~2 years.
I've got a Moto G as my every day driver and the Fire blows it away in most every regard honestly. The big thing is Fire OS as it's pretty horrible but now that you can easily add the Play Store and then a Launcher to go along with it, that pretty much solves the Fire OS "issue".
I bought my Fire for around 25 bucks with a year of Prime so it was an easy choice as worst case scenario I'd have a phone with a great camera (as compared to the Moto G) and another device for my son to play with or me to use for music.
I'd definitely buy it again just because it's so cheap and just fun to play with.
I bought mine for $80 second hand without prime, I think it was worth every penny. I rooted it and put Google Play and Google Now, I haven't put CM-11 on it yet because I don't want to loose 5Ghz wireless or the good camera.
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I haven't put CM-11 on it yet because I don't want to loose 5Ghz wireless or the good camera.
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Imo, with Google play store and root, we can get around a lot of the initial problems with the fire phones, mainly the launcher.
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Did those that have stayed in the fire OS, do you have problems with background apps? I found that most apps that has a background process didn't work. Ie hangouts wouldn't alert me to a message or Tasker wouldn't run scheduled events. Was that just me? That's what drove me to cm11 but if I could fix that I might go back until the camera issue is sorted out.
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Did those that have stayed in the fire OS, do you have problems with background apps? I found that most apps that has a background process didn't work. Ie hangouts wouldn't alert me to a message or Tasker wouldn't run scheduled events. Was that just me? That's what drove me to cm11 but if I could fix that I might go back until the camera issue is sorted out.
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Some apps require Google services for push notifications. Some don't. I'm not running Google services. Telegram, Conversations, AwSMS, NoNonsense Notes, F-Droid, all seem to be notifying me of events normally.
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I've recently noticed Telegram is giving me issues. Sometimes, it doesn't update until I manually open the app. I haven't changed anything or done any system updates. I'm not sure if its been that way all along, or if its something new.
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My main gripe is the back swipe. I don't think I have any other alternatives to make that disappear other than installing CM 11. I can't do that because I need my snapchat lol.
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I installed Gravity Box on mine and have been using Pie Controls, but there are quite a few different options here:
Ultimate Dynamic Navbar: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2270198
Button Savior: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.smart.swkey.nonroot&hl=en
Simple Control: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ace.jun.simplecontrol
and quite a few more.
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Some apps require Google services for push notifications. Some don't. I'm not running Google services. Telegram, Conversations, AwSMS, NoNonsense Notes, F-Droid, all seem to be notifying me of events normally.
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I had Google services installed at the time. I'm wondering if I did something wrong while installing. All the apps worked fine aside from the background processes. I know it shut them down if I removed from the carousel, but even if I didn't, they still wouldn't with.
Would not buy one again
Although the hardware is good, Amazon software is terrible. It is very buggy - most of their apps are buggy. For example my phone is loosing contacts on the regular basis, the amazon appstore settings crashes and would not let me change settings. Maps do not work without setting up amazon account. The status bar font is invisible, unless you have a perfect vision. If you lock from full screen app like fbreader, status bar is invisible on the lock screen. Lock screens do not show workable clock, they show stylized clock that is hidden in the jungle or some such nonsense. You can't tell if your battery is charging, etc. etc. Amazon should fire whoever designed that user interface. Fire os is complete garbage although it originated from android.
CM11 works great BUT camera does not work well and mute button requires workarounds.
In the end I went back to fire os for the camera and mute. With CM launcher and simple image lock screen, it is barely passable phone. I wish I could get some third party lock screen to work which has large time display.
Prime has very little value to me so for the same money I would go with Moto E or Moto G. These provide much better experience IMHO.
i read some reviews that say this phone becomes useless in months im wondering from experince how is the phone working for those who have had it for a long time
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i read some reviews that say this phone becomes useless in months im wondering from experince how is the phone working for those who have had it for a long time
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I had I for more than a year for more than a year of very intensive use (loading up to 270 app version s). I would definitely buy again.
I just had problems after it dropped violently on the ground but I insist build quality is good.
After full reinstall I changed it to ww from cn and with little bugs (camera lost) it works really well.
Where did you read that (links please) and what was the reasoning behind it? As of now, I can't think of any reason why this (or any other) phone would become useless in the coming months. Even if it was an Android 4.4 based phone. I'm not talking about getting updates, but phones don't just stop working (unless they break down).
In my opinion, not anymore. I'm actually a ZE551 user for 3 months now and am satisfied by it, but the specs in this phone is not a viable option anymore. The intel processor can even hold you back sometimes despite its "native support" for ARM apps. (take a look at the Pokemon GO craze earlier)
And if you are 3D gaming it can also be a setback due to the GPU included in this phone. The PowerVR GPU is a 2012 technology, and this means that with the future games this may not even suffice later on. Even some games recently released cant even play smoothly on this phone now (Titan Quest was said to be slow on this phone, though I havent seen it myself)
But the 4G support aint bad at all, and the 3-way call feature may attract you (something I never used). Most of the other things from various reviews still ring true (bloatware, zenui, camera, etc) but the thing is, on the same price point you may find a better option than the Zenfone 2 in this day and age.
If you can get it at a low price (around 150 usd) it is still worth buying.
If you need it just for the basic stuff (phone, messaging, browsing, navigation, music, videos etc.) it still is a great phone and with it's chipset and 4gb of ram it will sure run flawlessly for at least a year or two.
In my opinion, this phone is great as a business phone / second phone. It just works and nothing more. I got bored with it
If you could get it with a slightly lower price, it's still worth buying. Quality is great overall.
Btw, ZE551ML 2.3GHz4GB/32GB price here is dropped to as low as 2,800,000 IDR (approx. 212.8 USD) at local store here.
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going for a 4 gb ram model, u have to pay a bomb to get those high end phones which have charger lock and other things ... i dont regret buying this masterpiece, im coming from a background of Sony and Samsung phones to top it all .... i still feel this is the best of the phones i have considering the battery and the ram and also i am using a 128gb sdxc card which is going on for a year almost... NO REGRETS ..STILL THE BEST FOR ME
I have this phone since August 2016 and it never disappointed me. The processor is pretty good, you can run almost anything without any problems, the 4GB still is and will always be useful, the storage is big (i have the 32GB version, which is a lot for me and i never filled it). Sure, it hasn't been updated to 6.0 but I bought it with the thought that it might never get upgraded anyway..and even so 5.0 is still good and never had problems on it so far. I still recommend it even 1 year after I made the purchase. The price of the phone also went down (it's like 30% cheaper compared to when I bought it).
Definitely worth buying if you can find it around $150. The problem is that there are some excellent phones with bigger batteries and faster processors like the Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 Pro for just under $200 that blow this one away. Having said that I still have mine (15 months now) and it's on Marshmallow Beta. I have no plans on replacing it in the foreseeable future though my primary phone is now the Xiaomi.
Hi everyone,
I am looking to buy a new phone here in India and I am looking for a phone which will last me atleast 18-20 months from say January, 2017. I loved the battery stats of Moto Z PLay and since I dont game much on the phone apart from normal games and a Dead Trigger here and there, my priority is will the Snapdragon 625 processor be able to handle the upcoming apps and will its battery stay the same (approx) after 2 years or so.
I am a moderate user with social media, whats app and a bit of high net usage on wi-fi. Should I go for this or spend sme bucks more and buy OP3 or OP3T?
Thanks in advance!!!
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I was having the same debate - moto z play vs OP3T. I don't game at all, so the battery life + expandable storage trumps the top end performance and slightly better camera for me. Don't have it yet, but ordered a Z play yesterday. I'm seeing some pretty impressive battery numbers reported on the OP3T as well, so it's no slouch - solid for one day of heavy use
Dev support seems to be at about the same level on both devices at the moment, though if I had to guess, the OP3T will probably win out there in the end - only because in my experience most devs tend to purchase devices with higher end specs.
I've never been a big gamer but in normal everyday use the Z play is faster and smoother than my past few nexus phones. After using the phone for a few weeks the last thing I'm worried about is performance. Dropping it before I get a case is my biggest concern. Get a case or a bumper for this one
I would say go for the Z Play. I have had mine for over a month and it has truly impressed me. I have thought about exchanging for the regular Z but it's insane battery is not worth the extra performance I won't notice. The thing that impressed me most was even though I use it for intense games I have never noticed it struggle. It's mainly because the Z is such a well optimized phone. I think you will be very happy with your purchase.
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I've never been a big gamer but in normal everyday use the Z play is faster and smoother than my past few nexus phones. After using the phone for a few weeks the last thing I'm worried about is performance. Dropping it before I get a case is my biggest concern. Get a case or a bumper for this one
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first things I do after buying new phone is case and screen protector. My current Xperia Z2 fell screen down, flat from a height of 4 and half feet and my heart stopped. Picked it up, nothing happened thanks to glass screen protector.
Anyways, the dual sim and sd card option is very attractive and though I wont even fill up the 64GB in OP3T, the spare parts avaialbility and after sale support of OP is dreadful. Till now, the lord of smartphones has been kind enough to keep me away from repair centers, but if it happens on OP, i will keep the phone (if I buy it) as a memento of the stupid decision to buy the damn phone.!!
@RealiZms... thanks a lot for the reply and help..
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I would say go for the Z Play. I have had mine for over a month and it has truly impressed me. I have thought about exchanging for the regular Z but it's insane battery is not worth the extra performance I won't notice. The thing that impressed me most was even though I use it for intense games I have never noticed it struggle. It's mainly because the Z is such a well optimized phone. I think you will be very happy with your purchase.
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If it gives me even 3/4th the battery life and performance after 20 months times (talking abt the Z Play), I will be very happy. I was looking to buy the Moto G4 Plus, but the heating and ghost touch issues put me off. Will be going to check the handset out in a couple of days and will order it during the Christmas/New Year sale on Amazon or Flipkart (Local Indian e-commerce site).
The only thing keeping me from splurging on OP3/3T is the horror stories of after sales service. The lack of spare parts and other things have kept me away from buying even the OP2. Hope my choice of Z Play doesnt dissapoint me.
thanks for your reply and help, mate. :good: :good:
Good day bros.
I was asking the exact same question for the past week. Got rid of my Mi 5 due to its inability to make the NFC transit card work. Non-gamer mostly social media, surfing on my phone use. Was tempted by the great 'bang for the buck' offered by 3T, but I got the Z play in the end because, among other things, the one and only oneplus service centre in my country has closed down.
Not regretting it. No need to root, etc, everything NFC transport sim, fingerprint login with bank apps, Android Pay, it all just works. No hardcore gaming but regular apps work. No annoying china brand UI to deal with.
Oh and the battery life. Insane. I didn't even bring my USB-C wire to the office
Tried the Moto G Plus and returned it due to inadequate performance and ghost touch. Tried the Pixel XL but returned it because overpriced and not perfect. Tried the Moto Z Play and love it. Surprisingly haven't noticed any performance issues aside from the mediocre camera. The UI is very snappy. However the battery will change your life.
I got indian version of z play and let me tell ya, i play in it like a desktop (hardcore) and it gives me 8-9 hour battery. I download 80+GB from wifi each month. Its been 2 month i guess. I think Moto Z Play is the best smartphone within 30000₹ including future considerations.
I'm coming from an LG G3. Loved that phone, but tonight, it just died right in the middle of my using it. It's two years old and JUST went off contract. Took the latest update a few weeks ago and then my SD Card slot started acting flaky. So, I'm thinking this is all part of hardware failure and maybe the SD slot not working was the first sign.
Gaming wise, the G3 was awesome. I play games like Walking Dead No Man's Land, Game of War, Clash of Clans, and I do have games purchases like the GTA games. Does anyone have any idea how well this phone would work with those games? I can get this from VZW for $17/month which is cheaper than what my G3 was on the old contract ($40/month). Of course, after this month, my bill WOULD have dropped $20/month when the phone went off contract. Makes me wonder if VZW did this? lol
In any case, I've read reviews and even though the camera is 16mp as opposed to the 13mp I had on the G3, it sounds like the camera is the typical old Moto camera that ISN'T the best. But, I'm not a proffesional photographer. if it's good for just taking normal family pictures, etc, that's all I care.
Battery life is the big thing. I could get the G3 to last over a day with normal talk and text. But I also game, so I suck the life out the battery pretty quickly.
Any help you can provide if this would be a good replacement will be much appreciated. I've been with XDA for over 5 years ever since I got my first Android phone.
Thanks and I might be joining the family here if I do get this phone.
UPDATE: Starting today, VZW is having the Moto Z, Samsung Galaxy S7 and Google Pixel for $10/month with NO trade-in. So it looks like I'll be getting one of those. Just found out today while looking on their website.
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Tried the Moto G Plus and returned it due to inadequate performance and ghost touch. Tried the Pixel XL but returned it because overpriced and not perfect. Tried the Moto Z Play and love it. Surprisingly haven't noticed any performance issues aside from the mediocre camera. The UI is very snappy. However the battery will change your life.
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I actually dont use the camera much apart from clicking pics at family functions or outings. I dnt think I have even taken a selfie. the camera on Xperia Z2 was great, not only in terms of specs (21 mp and all), but the pics came out great. but if Moto Z Play's camera does what I have read, its adequate for me. If needed will buy a second hand DSLR.
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I got indian version of z play and let me tell ya, i play in it like a desktop (hardcore) and it gives me 8-9 hour battery. I download 80+GB from wifi each month. Its been 2 month i guess. I think Moto Z Play is the best smartphone within 30000₹ including future considerations.
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if it performs the way you said, I might have made a good decision in ordering Moto Z PLay from Flipkart. Only mistake I made was ordering the white one, when I wanted a black one. Well, same thing!!
Hi everyone who helped me in making this decision. I have ordered a Moto Z PLay (white....by mistake ) from Flipkart (indian e-commerce site).
I exchanged it for my old Xperia Z2 and got it for 15k INR or around 230 USD along with all discounts with credit cards and everything. will be delivered on boxing day and thankfully will be able to update on it in next few weeks.
Ciao!!
instigate666 said:
Hi everyone who helped me in making this decision. I have ordered a Moto Z PLay (white....by mistake ) from Flipkart (indian e-commerce site).
I exchanged it for my old Xperia Z2 and got it for 15k INR or around 230 USD along with all discounts with credit cards and everything. will be delivered on boxing day and thankfully will be able to update on it in next few weeks.
Ciao!!
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Apparently Flipkart is selling bad phones
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Apparently Flipkart is selling bad phones
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Bad phones, can you elaborate please?
If you are talking about OnePlus 3 fiasco, its their own doing, trying to get noticed by any means necessary.
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Bad phones, can you elaborate please?
If you are talking about OnePlus 3 fiasco, its their own doing, trying to get noticed by any means necessary.
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Few Moto z play brought from it are missing its nano coating, had scratches, defective parts etc etc. That's why I brought from Amazon. Even review on z play in Flipkart is bad.
i am shocked many people say it doesn't support wireless display/mirroring/miracast . Is it true ?! And is it a good buy after htc one m8 gold (with the jbl mod) in performance/multitasking ?!
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i am shocked many people say it doesn't support wireless display/mirroring/miracast . Is it true ?! And is it a good buy after htc one m8 gold (with the jbl mod) in performance/multitasking ?!
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I got an LG 65" smart TV, a 55" Samsung smart TV and 52" Vizio Smart TV, MirrorLink to smart TV is not working with any of them. However you can use an application named AllCast from play store (it's a paid application, the free one gives you only 5 minutes of transmission time for free), with that application you will be able to mirror videos, pictures, power points, etc to the smart TV. You can't mirror the entire content from your phone to the smart TV, but that is good enough for me.
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Few Moto z play brought from it are missing its nano coating, had scratches, defective parts etc etc. That's why I brought from Amazon. Even review on z play in Flipkart is bad.
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Okay...
But the phone has 4.0/5 on Amazon and 4.4/5 on Flipkart. But I got a great deal on it on so bought it. Anyways I have had good experiences with both e-commerce sites.
My tab s is officially dead .
It infinitely reboots after 30 seconds of being on in recovery, dl mode, and system. What would be a good priced tablet to buy second hand? Pixel C, s2? I want an android tablet so no iPad for me .
I want to use it mainly for Kodi and watching movies, with some light gaming, so 16:9 or similar is preferred.
Appreciate your feedback!
I don't know about second hand market. It seems like most Android tablets have some kind of a big flaw which begs a question, why pay premium prices for them? I'd look into buying the Amazon Fire HD 10, which may have flaws, but has decent specs, and is actually cheap.
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I don't know about second hand market. It seems like most Android tablets have some kind of a big flaw which begs a question, why pay premium prices for them? I'd look into buying the Amazon Fire HD 10, which may have flaws, but has decent specs, and is actually cheap.
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Can you please elaborate (Android tablets have some kind of a big flaw) What flaw are you talking about ?
Well, I don't know of any well rounded Android tablet on the market right now. For example, Tab S2, updates probably ended with Android N, no stereo sound in landscape mode. Asus Zenpad, same story. Looking at the Tab S3 forums, there is a long list of issues with it too. The new Huawei Mediapad M5 has no headphone port. and so on.. Every Android tablet has some kind of a pain in a butt problem, which makes me wonder, if there is no good mid-level or high-end Android tablet, why pay premium prices for them? The Amazon Fire HD 10 (2017) costs something like 150USD or less and actually has decent specs.
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Well, I don't know of any well rounded Android tablet on the market right now. For example, Tab S2, updates probably ended with Android N, no stereo sound in landscape mode. Asus Zenpad, same story. Looking at the Tab S3 forums, there is a long list of issues with it too. The new Huawei Mediapad M5 has no headphone port. and so on.. Every Android tablet has some kind of a pain in a butt problem, which makes me wonder, if there is no good mid-level or high-end Android tablet, why pay premium prices for them? The Amazon Fire HD 10 (2017) costs something like 150USD or less and actually has decent specs.
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I am not sure what you are looking at in terms of the tab S3. I have one and it is an excellent tablet. I bought it as my old Tab S was getting a little slow after 3 1/2 years. The only issue I have with the tab S3 is the lack of ROMs as while stock is fine, I like to tinker. I also have a Fire HD and it is pretty basic, you get what you pay for.