Considering buying ZF2 - ZenFone 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello there,
I am considering of buying a ZF2 and I have looked around at probably 15 reviews on this phone [emoji14] I don't care about design and such but the guides were saying that the brightness and the camera are a bit bad.
Is the brightness really bad on the ZF2 ? And how does the camera do ?
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Yup, the brightness are a little bit low at max. But still manage to clearly seen under the sunlight. And the lowest brightness are still too bright it hurt my eyes in dark environments. You may use screen filter app to solve this, and started on .90 fw update, the screen filter already implemented by asus. The camera...well, not too bad at this budget. Still can't compete with other flagship phones. If you are an expert at photography, you may consider buy another phone.
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chepoz said:
Yup, the brightness are a little bit low at max. But still manage to clearly seen under the sunlight. And the lowest brightness are still too bright it hurt my eyes in dark environments. You may use screen filter app to solve this, and started on .90 fw update, the screen filter already implemented by asus. The camera...well, not too bad at this budget. Still can't compete with other flagship phones. If you are an expert at photography, you may consider buy another phone.
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ok that's great to know that you can still see under sunlight I'm not an expert with photography just wanted to know how well it took pictures
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The camera is really bad in my opinion. Every photo I take seems to be grainy or just not all that clear. There are much better options out there. The nexus 6 can be had for $299 now. there are also good deals on the note 4 and other devices that are a year old. The brightness is a bit low, but you'll get use to it. It was a great phone for the money when it launched, but there are better options now. It is a good phone, but not great anymore.
I've always been able to use it the whole day. I usually have 10-20% battery left at night when I plug it in.

alex.o said:
The camera is really bad in my opinion. Every photo I take seems to be grainy or just not all that clear. There are much better options out there. The nexus 6 can be had for $299 now. there are also good deals on the note 4 and other devices that are a year old. The brightness is a bit low, but you'll get use to it. It was a great phone for the money when it launched, but there are better options now. It is a good phone, but not great anymore.
I've always been able to use it the whole day. I usually have 10-20% battery left at night when I plug it in.
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Well I wanted to go for the zenfone because of the great specs and such but I'm open to any other 5"-5"5' phones just as long as its around 300€ or so. If anyone else has any other suggestions on what other phone I could buy I'd gladly appreciate it
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For the money its a great phone. I love mine! You get what you pay for.

I agree with Bushcrafter. Mine does everything I want, and at less than half the price of comparable handsets.
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Bushcrafter said:
For the money its a great phone. I love mine! You get what you pay for.
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quicksilver53 said:
I agree with Bushcrafter. Mine does everything I want, and at less than half the price of comparable handsets.
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what are ye guys experiences with the display and camera ?
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I am more than satisfied with the performance of mine. I watch a lot of videos on mine and I can't complain. It is very clear and the screen brightness is not as bad as I'd heard. Comparable to my M7. The camera takes decent shots in bright and low light. I have nothing but good thingscto say about the performance of this phone.
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I prefer the ZF2 over my Nexus 5. The reports regarding the screen brightness are, while true, exaggerated imho. The camera is worse than the Nexus 5's but I don't care about the camera anyway.

alex.o said:
The nexus 6 can be had for $299 now.
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I noticed OP posted the price in Euros, I assume he's European, so the median price of a Nexus 6 device in Europe right now is more than 450 to 500 euros at some cases, whereas the ZF2 can be found at 50 or 100 euro cheaper than the Nexus6
For the specs it has, I'd say it's a good offer

DimitrisGate13 said:
I noticed OP posted the price in Euros, I assume he's European, so the median price of a Nexus 6 device in Europe right now is more than 450 to 500 euros at some cases, whereas the ZF2 can be found at 50 or 100 euro cheaper than the Nexus6
For the specs it has, I'd say it's a good offer
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Yeah the Nexus 6 is a bit pricey here. Yeah I'll go for the ZF2, great reviews here and loads of exaggeration of reviews elsewhere.
Caebron said:
I prefer the ZF2 over my Nexus 5. The reports regarding the screen brightness are, while true, exaggerated imho. The camera is worse than the Nexus 5's but I don't care about the camera anyway.
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Ok that's good to know that the screen brightness isn't that bad
quicksilver53 said:
I am more than satisfied with the performance of mine. I watch a lot of videos on mine and I can't complain. It is very clear and the screen brightness is not as bad as I'd heard. Comparable to my M7. The camera takes decent shots in bright and low light. I have nothing but good thingscto say about the performance of this phone.
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Ok great thanks, I hope that the camera will be better than my current moto g (1st Gen) [emoji14]
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bublz654 said:
Yeah the Nexus 6 is a bit pricey here. Yeah I'll go for the ZF2, gear reviews here and loads of exaggeration of reviews elsewhere.
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true, I've also ordered it and wait it to be delivered since a local eshop had it on a special offer at 339€. Of course, If I could find both Nexus 6 and the ZF2 at the same money, I'd get the first mainly because you can mod it easily and without any repercussions (unlocked bootloader doesn't void the warranty, etc)
But then again, going from my current phone of 512 mb ram and 400 mb internal memory to a rocket like ZF2 doesn't leave me much room for complaints

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true, I've also ordered it and wait it to be delivered since a local eshop had it on a special offer at 339€. Of course, If I could find both Nexus 6 and the ZF2 at the same money, I'd get the first mainly because you can mod it easily and without any repercussions (unlocked bootloader doesn't void the warranty, etc)
But then again, going from my current phone of 512 mb ram and 400 mb internal memory to a rocket like ZF2 doesn't leave me much room for complaints
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although the nexus has a better stock experience it has a bit lower specs so I might as well get the ZF2 for the bit lower price
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bublz654 said:
although the nexus has a better stock experience it has a bit lower specs so I might as well get the ZF2 for the bit lower price
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got mine 2 hours ago, holy **** it's fast. Rooting was also easy and quick. Seems like it's very good actually

DimitrisGate13 said:
got mine 2 hours ago, holy **** it's fast. Rooting was also easy and quick. Seems like it's very good actually
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that's great to hear good luck with your phone.
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bublz654 said:
Hello there,
I am considering of buying a ZF2 and I have looked around at probably 15 reviews on this phone [emoji14] I don't care about design and such but the guides were saying that the brightness and the camera are a bit bad.
Is the brightness really bad on the ZF2 ? And how does the camera do ?
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Im a new owner and I regret getting this phone. Battery life is terrible, camera is mediocre, many weird bugs, screen brightness is a joke, reminds me of my 2011 HTC. Oh and still no Android 5.1 and its probably never coming to this phone apparently and probably same story for Android marshmallow.
Avoid this phone at all cost. You can get a better phone for less IMO. Mine is going on Craig's list if the next big patch doesn't fix the battery life.

Relayers said:
Im a new owner and I regret getting this phone. Battery life is terrible, camera is mediocre, many weird bugs, screen brightness is a joke, reminds me of my 2011 HTC. Oh and still no Android 5.1 and its probably never coming to this phone apparently and probably same story for Android marshmallow.
Avoid this phone at all cost. You can get a better phone for less IMO. Mine is going on Craig's list if the next big patch doesn't fix the battery life.
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I don't care about android version [emoji14] can easily root it anyway and flash ROM. ROMS can easily fix battery life issue
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bublz654 said:
I don't care about android version [emoji14] can easily root it anyway and flash ROM. ROMS can easily fix battery life issue
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nope, none of the ROM currently available can give this phone a good battery life.

Relayers said:
nope, none of the ROM currently available can give this phone a good battery life.
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It has better battery life than lg g4 and galaxy s6(had both), so what's your point? If you personally have a bad experience with your unit, that doesn't make this a phone to "avoid at all cost".
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Samsung Galaxy Nexus-Opinions Please [Q]

Hey guys,I just wanted to hear the opinions for this phone.I'm probably gonna switch from Sony Xperia S to Nexus because there are a few things that are really bothering me.So first of all I would like to hear the problems you had/have with this phone in terms of hardware/software.I personally think this is a very good phone,and don't really want to go with LG right now cause I think sammy is just fine .I am worried a little bit about camera (it's not a problem) it's 5 MP and SXS has a 12 MP but forgive me for not-knowing cause i heard that it doesn't really matter how much MP you have but it's up to sensors and software tweaks...so guys please give me opinion is it worth buying?
DekinGBar said:
Hey guys,I just wanted to hear the opinions for this phone.I'm probably gonna switch from Sony Xperia S to Nexus because there are a few things that are really bothering me.So first of all I would like to hear the problems you had/have with this phone in terms of hardware/software.I personally think this is a very good phone,and don't really want to go with LG right now cause I think sammy is just fine .I am worried a little bit about camera (it's not a problem) it's 5 MP and SXS has a 12 MP but forgive me for not-knowing cause i heard that it doesn't really matter how much MP you have but it's up to sensors and software tweaks...so guys please give me opinion is it worth buying?
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Global problems:
Screen quality. You play russian roulette with getting a good screen that isn't washed out, with blacks looking purple.
Camera quality is average. Maybe even below average. You are right that MP doesn't matter, but the sensor sucks regardless.
WiFi. A lot of people have issues with 5Ghz WFi (I am not one of them).
CDMA/LTE problems:
Battery life.
Some have issues with data drops.
Slow updates,
I've had galaxy nexi across sprint and verizon and they were fine. Fast phone- but I didn't realise how so until I got away from Sprint. I got excellent battery life with 3g on sprint and with lte on Verizon.
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So...is the screen really that bad?I think since (I guess) it's a hardware issue...is it really that bad,like on every black you got purple,or certain areas?And does it wash out by using or just when you get its already in that state?
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So...is the screen really that bad?I think since (I guess) it's a hardware issue...is it really that bad,like on every black you got purple,or certain areas?And does it wash out by using or just when you get its already in that state?
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Well, I have had three of them thus far (one being a warranty replacement. 1 had a screen issue. I am not sure what the actual problem is, but I'm thinking that the brightness levels are off in the hardware. There are kernels that let you adjust it to overcome the problem if you end up with one of these.
You actually buy it in that state, its not a problem that develops over time.
Well ok than,i think it is not that bad,not that i woulf like to see these problems lol just saying,since i had a yellow tint problem on my SXS and it was a hardware problem...
I would get the HTC One X if you're on a GSM carrier. If you want to switch to Verizon, I would wait for the new Droid DNA. Its going to be an amazing phone. A 5 inch full 1080p screen and a quad core Snapdragon S4 processor. Its going to run circles around either phone.
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Regardless of the device, people always ***** about the screen and the camera.
Don't listen to em. The gnex is a great device, and the complainers are just nerds on xda.. not real world users.
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jordanishere said:
Regardless of the device, people always ***** about the screen and the camera.
Don't listen to em. The gnex is a great device, and the complainers are just nerds on xda.. not real world users.
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So these "nerds on xda" aren't real world users?
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......and here we go!
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Yes,but lets say that I am a evety day user and I do kniw a little about development.....Would I still notice it?
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Yes,but lets say that I am a evety day user and I do kniw a little about development.....Would I still notice it?
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For average user, the screen looks good enough, battery life is acceptable for me (average 17h or so with 3.5-4hours screen on), camera is below average for me cause i use my camera very often and video recording looks jagged and so far from perfect for me.
Overall this phone is still a great device, its performance is pretty good.
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Hmm now I'm in big dilemma,should I get more money and take Nex4 or should I get this one....
DekinGBar said:
Hmm now I'm in big dilemma,should I get more money and take Nex4 or should I get this one....
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i would say get the n4 but if price is a factor this phone is definitely worth it
k786 said:
i would say get the n4 but if price is a factor this phone is definitely worth it
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I'd say the same, if you can wait just be patient add little more money and get N4 but if you cant wait this phone is still worth it.
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[Q] Problems with this phone?

Any important reasons, as known issues, common problems or anything to know in order to avoid purchasing for this device?
I've read about battery issues related with being battery li-po type.
Anything that I should know about?
It looks quite fragile and breakable too, but thats another problem, lol.
xdaforo said:
Any important reasons, as known issues, common problems or anything to know in order to avoid purchasing for this device?
I've read about battery issues related with being battery li-po type.
Anything that I should know about?
It looks quite fragile and breakable too, but thats another problem, lol.
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Problems? You are a glass-half-empty guy aren't you? Lol
I think this is the best phone i could get in this price range, specs wise. At least in my country.
Battery is good so far. Certainly better than Xperia SP, even though it has less capacity. Amazing screen, speaker is clear, good build quality. Camera is a bit meh though. Overall it's a really good phone. The only minus is it doesn't support external storage.
U r not going to have any problems with the battery. The is a excellent phone. The camera with low lighting has some quality issues, and the biggest problem is the lack of updates. We r stuck on android 4.1, the hardware is capable but the software is old, for example u can't use Bluetooth LE devices. ..
Battery will hold about 2 days, depending on your useage
Camera is best when used with another software
Audio quality is bad
The rest is pretty good, if you forget the lack of update from LG.
IMHO, I would go for a Nexus 4, same specs, fraction of the price, better support.
I droped it for 3 times and its ok!
But I bought full insurance
grunch21 said:
Problems? You are a glass-half-empty guy aren't you? Lol
I think this is the best phone i could get in this price range, specs wise. At least in my country.
Battery is good so far. Certainly better than Xperia SP, even though it has less capacity. Amazing screen, speaker is clear, good build quality. Camera is a bit meh though. Overall it's a really good phone. The only minus is it doesn't support external storage.
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Well, not really. Just a realistic guy who cares about how industry and economy have led us to buy stuff that last 10 times less than things lasted before. I just want those 10 times to be reduced somehow so I study quite a lot what the perfect purchase would be among my interests.
The other phone that I was considering was actually the Xperia SP. Battery on the sp with stock rom performs perfect. We have this phone at home and I saw how it lasted 2 days using airplane mode at nights together with a moderate use along the day.
On the other hand, hardware is supposed to be worse, and actually less energy consumer -2 cores against 4. So I doubt about Xperia sp performing worse than optimus g in that field.
stratdevel said:
U r not going to have any problems with the battery. The is a excellent phone. The camera with low lighting has some quality issues, and the biggest problem is the lack of updates. We r stuck on android 4.1, the hardware is capable but the software is old, for example u can't use Bluetooth LE devices. ..
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Updates wil come finally, I think
t1mman said:
Battery will hold about 2 days, depending on your useage
Camera is best when used with another software
Audio quality is bad
The rest is pretty good, if you forget the lack of update from LG.
IMHO, I would go for a Nexus 4, same specs, fraction of the price, better support.
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bafdboysbehindthis said:
I droped it for 3 times and its ok!
But I bought full insurance
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Does this mean that you already broke it and you had to use that nice insurance?
thanks for all your comments and opinions
xdaforo said:
Well, not really. Just a realistic guy who cares about how industry and economy have led us to buy stuff that last 10 times less than things lasted before. I just want those 10 times to be reduced somehow so I study quite a lot what the perfect purchase would be among my interests.
The other phone that I was considering was actually the Xperia SP. Battery on the sp with stock rom performs perfect. We have this phone at home and I saw how it lasted 2 days using airplane mode at nights together with a moderate use along the day.
On the other hand, hardware is supposed to be worse, and actually less energy consumer -2 cores against 4. So I doubt about Xperia sp performing worse than optimus g in that field.
Updates wil come finally, I think
Does this mean that you already broke it and you had to use that nice insurance?
thanks for all your comments and opinions
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No, its ok. Not even a scrach)
grunch21 said:
Problems? You are a glass-half-empty guy aren't you? Lol
I think this is the best phone i could get in this price range, specs wise. At least in my country.
Battery is good so far. Certainly better than Xperia SP, even though it has less capacity. Amazing screen, speaker is clear, good build quality. Camera is a bit meh though. Overall it's a really good phone. The only minus is it doesn't support external storage.
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xdaforo said:
Any important reasons, as known issues, common problems or anything to know in order to avoid purchasing for this device?
I've read about battery issues related with being battery li-po type.
Anything that I should know about?
It looks quite fragile and breakable too, but thats another problem, lol.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2655237
Geeeze bro! You can't put a bad flash in the "known issue" section...
t1mman said:
Battery will hold about 2 days, depending on your useage
Camera is best when used with another software
Audio quality is bad
The rest is pretty good, if you forget the lack of update from LG.
IMHO, I would go for a Nexus 4, same specs, fraction of the price, better support.
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Hi,
what do u mean that camera is better with other soft? Stock soft is horrible and it all because flash focus is missing. I've tried kernel with this but it's not good yet but question is what software do u meant? thanks
Biker1121 said:
Hi,
what do u mean that camera is better with other soft? Stock soft is horrible and it all because flash focus is missing. I've tried kernel with this but it's not good yet but question is what software do u meant? thanks
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Try LG Camera, compare image, you'll see!
bafdboysbehindthis said:
No, its ok. Not even a scrach)
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Good to know.
niyazidk said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2655237
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I don't think this is a real problem with the phone.
t1mman said:
Geeeze bro! You can't put a bad flash in the "known issue" section...
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indeed
Biker1121 said:
Hi,
what do u mean that camera is better with other soft? Stock soft is horrible and it all because flash focus is missing. I've tried kernel with this but it's not good yet but question is what software do u meant? thanks
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I think he means using third party software to take the photos. But it my experiencie it doesn't help too much since all the software use the same "limit/native values" or whatever u call them (aperture and shutter speed settings and so on) when taking a photo. So that means that, unless the "stock camera software" makes and awful work when choosing what paremeters to use, you won't notice big differences between obtained results.
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I think he means using third party software to take the photos. But it my experiencie it doesn't help too much since all the software use the same "limit/native values" or whatever u call them (aperture and shutter speed settings and so on) when taking a photo. So that means that, unless the "stock camera software" makes and awful work when choosing what paremeters to use, you won't notice big differences between obtained results.
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This was taken at the same place, using the same settings, same light, etc. See for yourself:
Photo taken by OEM software:
Photo taken by LG Camera
t1mman said:
This was taken at the same place, using the same settings, same light, etc. See for yourself:
Photo taken by OEM software:
Photo taken by LG Camera
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What is OEM software? could u send me a link? thanks
OEM means "stock", like the one in the stock rom provided by LG.
The "LG Camera" is another software, found in the Play Store:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=rubberbigpepper.lgCamera&hl=en
I don't know how come they called it "LGCamera", beats me! But it's not the camera software from LG!
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This was taken at the same place, using the same settings, same light, etc. See for yourself:
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Well I don't see where you wanna get. Actually I dont know which one do u like the most. I just see a more natural color but a much more noisy shot than with the second one.
Where I want to go is that you can get those 2 results with both app cameras, playing around with manual settings. The problem is that 90% of people don't use them and just press the butom and take the photo.
So what makes the difference when choosing one app instead the other is actually depending only on how the automatic mode works..
In part, I know I can get a better quality on the OEM software using custom ISO settings, but the image will get blurry easely, which is not realy an option unless you take "still subjects".
The grainy feel on the first one is realy beyond what I could consider an "average" quality.
xdaforo said:
Well, not really. Just a realistic guy who cares about how industry and economy have led us to buy stuff that last 10 times less than things lasted before. I just want those 10 times to be reduced somehow so I study quite a lot what the perfect purchase would be among my interests.
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Good point.
xdaforo said:
The other phone that I was considering was actually the Xperia SP. Battery on the sp with stock rom performs perfect. We have this phone at home and I saw how it lasted 2 days using airplane mode at nights together with a moderate use along the day.
On the other hand, hardware is supposed to be worse, and actually less energy consumer -2 cores against 4. So I doubt about Xperia sp performing worse than optimus g in that field.
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I was torn between buying SP, nexus 4 and LGOG. SP has larger battery capacity and external storage, nexus 4 has direct update from google. But i ended up buying LGOG cos it has better hardware, nicer screen than SP, and larger storage than Nexus 4. I bought my sister the SP though, and she loves it!
grunch21 said:
Good point.
I was torn between buying SP, nexus 4 and LGOG. SP has larger battery capacity and external storage, nexus 4 has direct update from google. But i ended up buying LGOG cos it has better hardware, nicer screen than SP, and larger storage than Nexus 4. I bought my sister the SP though, and she loves it!
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all are good options i guess. thank you for all ur comments

Which one will u be getting? 7 or 7a?

So I really can't decide between which to get. 2560X1600 sure sounds good, but I'm worried about performance, especially in games. And 7a is downgrade version. What version will you guys be getting and why? So I can hopefully make up my mind too lol.
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zabih107 said:
So I really can't decide between which to get. 2560X1600 sure sounds good, but I'm worried about performance, especially in games. And 7a is downgrade version. What version will you guys be getting and why? So I can hopefully make up my mind too lol.
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I want the full spec one of course, I don't play graphics intensive games on phone so I don't really care with gaming performance, but I do worry about the battery life, I will wait for reviews first.
Full reviews on both before I decide, but 7 is what I want at the moment!
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Full spec all the way. Game on PC or Telly,more real estate. Casual games will run fine
7a is going to be my preference. I want my battery life! It's not just going to be gaming that the resolution with have a negative effect on - EVERYTHING will require the GPU/CPU/display subsystem to push more pixels. The Find7 will either have the same GPU or only a slight clock boost.
Look at what happened when the iPad went retina - they needed 4x the GPU cores and had to make the battery 50% larger to get the same life, which made it heavier and also made it take 50% longer to recharge.
I'm definitely getting the premium one :laugh:
I'll be getting 7a version, i don't really care about that high pixel density, and i'm also not worried about anything it lacks over premium version, and pre-order are going to start 7 of April, 2 months earlier than premium version.
Entropy512 said:
7a is going to be my preference. I want my battery life!
Look at what happened when the iPad went retina - they needed 4x the GPU cores and had to make the battery 50% larger to get the same life, which made it heavier and also made it take 50% longer to recharge.
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Is battery life such an issue when the device can (reportedly) charge 75% in half an hour?
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androidguy10 said:
you wouldn't want to constantly have to charge your phone right?
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Unless the phone is chewing more than 150% of it's battery p/h, there will be no need, given the stated charging rate of 75% in half hour.
^^ it's a crap post, but it is replying in kind somewhat
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I think I'll have the 7a for the reasons enumerated by both Entrepoy512 and ireun.
But LG G Pro 2 and OnePlus are really tempting as well.
I would get the Find 7a, but it's hardly an improvement over my Nexus 5 (at least hard to justify, that is): SoC is basically the same; it has 500mAh more battery but screen is bigger, so I don't think it will have such big a difference in life; camera is better, no doubt, but the 8MP OIS camera of the N5 is quite good and it will soon have an improved app (which is the worst part of it) plus I'm on KitKat, AOSP in all its glory...
The Find 7, though, will be a significant improvement, more modern SoC, more memory, amazing screen and all the better camera and battery (3Ah!!!). I think the Find 7 is a phone I can enjoy and keep for a long time, while the 7a is too small an improvement over the N5, specially at Play Store prices... So, I will wait for the full 7 and then, well, I'd love to upgrade (and maybe ColorOS is already updated to KitKat as well, or CM or someone...
for everyone that wants the 7a, i would recommend waiting to see what the OnePlus One will look like. same specs, same camera lens, screen, etc. They say it will be <$400. If you don't know by now, ex-execs of Oppo started their own smartphone company
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I would get the Find 7a, but it's hardly an improvement over my Nexus 5 (at least hard to justify, that is): SoC is basically the same; it has 500mAh more battery but screen is bigger, so I don't think it will have such big a difference in life; camera is better, no doubt, but the 8MP OIS camera of the N5 is quite good and it will soon have an improved app (which is the worst part of it) plus I'm on KitKat, AOSP in all its glory...
The Find 7, though, will be a significant improvement, more modern SoC, more memory, amazing screen and all the better camera and battery (3Ah!!!). I think the Find 7 is a phone I can enjoy and keep for a long time, while the 7a is too small an improvement over the N5, specially at Play Store prices... So, I will wait for the full 7 and then, well, I'd love to upgrade (and maybe ColorOS is already updated to KitKat as well, or CM or someone...
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I'm thinking the same as you, as I also have a Nexus 5. Getting 7a wouldn't be a proper upgrade. I'm eyeing more the 7 and maybe z2.
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for everyone that wants the 7a, i would recommend waiting to see what the OnePlus One will look like. same specs, same camera lens, screen, etc. They say it will be <$400. If you don't know by now, ex-execs of Oppo started their own smartphone company
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Been looking into what i can find out about the OnePlus One. Now i am really tempted as i do like using CM and even with the Colour OS on the Oppo i get the feeling i will find even a little bloatware is still too much for me.
It would be nice if the 7a came with 32gb storage.
I'm getting the 7a for multiple reasons:
1. Cheaper
2. Lower resolution means less rendering strain, this also means longer battery runtime.
3. Internal memory becomes irrelevant with an 128gb sdcard, leaving no reason for me to want the pro version.
The only thing I'm concerned about is whether the lite version will find as much acceptance in the xda / devving community as the pro version.
But due to similar, nearly identical, hardware I really hope that Roms will be fine for both models in the long run.
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Getting 7a too, with same reasons as McColbird.. plus its harder to find 2k wallpapers
Im curious with MaxxAudio, has anyone compare it with other phones? I barely read its comparison in current reviews.
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I want to mention, that the Battery of the 7 is also a little bit stronger...
Do u think its unspectacular and not useful ? Makes it no difference ?
And on the other hand the 2k has a higer pixel per inch number and also a stronger cpu with 3gb ram instead of 2gb.
I only want to hear your opinion because I am not sure about it (7 or 7a)
greets
Just wanting some input... I'm thinking about getting the 7a. Currently I have the Note 3. Do yall think switching from the Note 3 to the 7a is worth it? Why or why not?? Thanks for your input if any...
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I think the 200 mAh from the bigger 7 battery will be eaten by the higher processor and the higher resolution of the display.
And you will be able to put the larger battery into the 7a, and everything is fine
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OP3 vs Nexus 6p

Hey guys!
So I currently have a Galaxy S6 from Verizon, and I am deeply disappointed with it. Since my bootloader is locked, I can't flash any ROMs to improve my terrible battery life. (1.5 hrs SOT, power saving location, power saving mode, auto brightness, etc. Phone still needs to be charger 2 times a day). I was thinking of either getting the OP3 or the Nexus 6P? Is anyone in the same boat as me? I'd love to bounce some ideas around and see what other's recommend.
Since this is oneplus 3 section, I think everyone will say you should get op3. I'd get it myself. Looks a lot better device.
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Hey guys!
So I currently have a Galaxy S6 from Verizon, and I am deeply disappointed with it. Since my bootloader is locked, I can't flash any ROMs to improve my terrible battery life. (1.5 hrs SOT, power saving location, power saving mode, auto brightness, etc. Phone still needs to be charger 2 times a day). I was thinking of either getting the OP3 or the Nexus 6P? Is anyone in the same boat as me? I'd love to bounce some ideas around and see what other's recommend.
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I'm selling my Nexus 6P to buy a OnePlus 3. For me it's all about the dual SIM. Here's what I'll miss about the Nexus 6P (Great phone): QHD display. Stereo speakers at each end of the phone. Also the fingerprint sensor is great: works every time (unlike many I have tried). I hope the OP3 fingerprint sensor will be as good.
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I'm selling my Nexus 6P to buy a OnePlus 3. For me it's all about the dual SIM. Here's what I'll miss about the Nexus 6P (Great phone): QHD display. Stereo speakers at each end of the phone. Also the fingerprint sensor is great: works every time (unlike many I have tried). I hope the OP3 fingerprint sensor will be as good.
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Nice, hope you like the OP3! The dual SIM doesn't matter to me, since I only travel internationally once every 2 years or so. Yeah, I feel you on the screen. I'm going to miss the camera and screen of my S6 for sure. From the videos and reviews I've seen/read, it seems like the fingerprint scanner is very good. Seems to function better than that of the S6.
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Since this is oneplus 3 section, I think everyone will say you should get op3. I'd get it myself. Looks a lot better device.
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Yeah, but I hope that there are other people out there that are stuck between the two. Especially since the nexus has a price drop atm.
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Yeah, but I hope that there are other people out there that are stuck between the two. Especially since the nexus has a price drop atm.
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The 6P 64 GB goes for 549 euro`s in the EU till the 19th, ater that 699 again. So there`s quite a price difference ...
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The 6P 64 GB goes for 549 euro`s in the EU till the 19th, ater that 699 again. So there`s quite a price difference ...
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Sorry, I should've clarified. The nexus is on sale in America right now. The 64 GB is going for 480 (however 32 is more than enough for me.)
I'm also considering to sell my 6p to buy the OP3. I have been kind of disappointed in the 6p because of the screen and battery life. My screen goes from a pink bottom to a yellowish top. I'd rather have a good 1080p screen then a bad QHD screen. And like somebody mentioned in the EU I can sell the 6p without paying much extra to get a brand new op3.
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I'm also considering to sell my 6p to buy the OP3. I have been kind of disappointed in the 6p because of the screen and battery life. My screen goes from a pink bottom to a yellowish top. I'd rather have a good 1080p screen then a bad QHD screen. And like somebody mentioned in the EU I can sell the 6p without paying much extra to get a brand new op3.
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You should get 350-400 euro`s on Marktplaats for your 6P depending on the storage size.
I am confused too. I own a 64gb Nexus 6p. Disappointed with sd810. Heats too much while gaming. But the quicker official android updates and dual front firing speakers are awesome. I''' loose better camera too. Though I'll get sd820 and 6gb ram and I will make profit if I sell my 6p and buy op3. Really confused :-/
The problem is mainly the size and price. You get a bit smaller device for less money. Actually i dont like 810 serie, so i would probably stick to OP3 since they open to modding after errors with OP2. Probably 6P is better on CAM+Speakers and MAYBE screen.
I also have a Nexus 6P.
- It's REALLY big.
- I don't like the back fingerprint sensor
I'm considering to switch to the OP3 too..... but Nexus updates are every month and i would like to have android pay work with a rooted phone.....
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I'm also considering to sell my 6p to buy the OP3. I have been kind of disappointed in the 6p because of the screen and battery life. My screen goes from a pink bottom to a yellowish top. I'd rather have a good 1080p screen then a bad QHD screen. And like somebody mentioned in the EU I can sell the 6p without paying much extra to get a brand new op3.
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I've heard good things about the Nexus 6P's battery life generally though. Is it not that good?
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I am confused too. I own a 64gb Nexus 6p. Disappointed with sd810. Heats too much while gaming. But the quicker official android updates and dual front firing speakers are awesome. I''' loose better camera too. Though I'll get sd820 and 6gb ram and I will make profit if I sell my 6p and buy op3. Really confused :-/
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In the same boat bro. Tell me if you make any decision. I can profit by selling 6P and buying Op3 currently.
What I'll miss if I switched is stereo speakers and quick latest updates !
I was happy with my 6p for a bit, then the crappy aluminum(bent near the charging port) and screen brightness got to me. Should not have to root to see the thing outdoors.
+battery life sucked on mine (usually had trouble getting 3 hours SoT, i get 6 from my mate 8 in the same usage and 10 when using it at home)
ra9b said:
Hey guys!
So I currently have a Galaxy S6 from Verizon, and I am deeply disappointed with it. Since my bootloader is locked, I can't flash any ROMs to improve my terrible battery life. (1.5 hrs SOT, power saving location, power saving mode, auto brightness, etc. Phone still needs to be charger 2 times a day). I was thinking of either getting the OP3 or the Nexus 6P? Is anyone in the same boat as me? I'd love to bounce some ideas around and see what other's recommend.
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Are you staying with Verizon?
The Op3 only works with AT&T or T-Mobile in the U.S.
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Does anyone here have a OP3? If so, can you really tell the difference between 1080p and 2k?
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Im seriously considering switching from the 6p to the OP3
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I currently have a nexus 6, but I'm torn on upgrading to possibly a 6p, one plus 3, or just waiting for the next nexus. I'm currently on att, but have been contemplating on switching to project fi.
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I'm also considering to sell my 6p to buy the OP3. I have been kind of disappointed in the 6p because of the screen and battery life. My screen goes from a pink bottom to a yellowish top. I'd rather have a good 1080p screen then a bad QHD screen. And like somebody mentioned in the EU I can sell the 6p without paying much extra to get a brand new op3.
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If you want to sell it because of screen issues, then I will advice you to wait for reviews of the screen on the Oneplus 3 to see if it has no isues.
Beside the battery i would say that the 3 wins nearly ever, aspect.
The problems i have with the nexus is that they are released only a short period before qualcom releases jts new CPU and then i always want to wait to get a devoce with the new cpu.

Worth Upgrading from Note 5 to Note 7

Want to know if it is worth upgrading from the note 5 to note 7? If so Why??
In my opinion it's not worth it.. Almost same design. I think the battery will not be better too. The only pro thing is that the note 7 is waterproof.
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Yes.
Edge screen looks nice and futuristic and clearly is the way to go for Samsung flagships moving forward.
Waterpoof.
Much better cameras.
Easier to hold one-handed.
Design so much better, very compact for a 5.7" screen phone.
Better battery.
USB type C.
Iris scanner not needed but still cool.
Micro SD card support with the possibility of using it as adoptable storage.
Only downside is it's expensive.
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Forgot to mention that you can also set the screen to 1080p to save substantial battery life if you can't really see the difference between it and 4k. You can even set to 720p if you want.
I feel like the note 5 and S6 were a step in the right direction design wise, and still have great features when it comes to the hardware. If you don't plan on getting your phone wet and have enough internal storage then I wouldn't upgrade. If you like to store a lot on your phone that's the only reason I would upgrade if I were you. Otherwise the camera is still top of the line, the fingerprint scanner is fast& secure, and the phone still has the premium look and feel.
Yes for the sd card slot if nothing else.
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Is worth. Read this: Galaxy Note7 OLED Display Technology Shoot-Out
I am still on a note 3 so for me it's a no brainer.but someone with a 5 they should wait unless you really need the SD card.
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busventinc said:
I am still on a note 3 so for me it's a no brainer.but someone with a 5 they should wait unless you really need the SD card.
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Ditto
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I will buy (as n5 battery is its weakest feature) but depending on what the v20 delivers I may well sell it soon after!
Sharpshooterrr said:
Yes.
Edge screen looks nice and futuristic and clearly is the way to go for Samsung flagships moving forward.
Waterpoof.
Much better cameras.
Easier to hold one-handed.
Design so much better, very compact for a 5.7" screen phone.
Better battery.
USB type C.
Iris scanner not needed but still cool.
Micro SD card support with the possibility of using it as adoptable storage.
Only downside is it's expensive.
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Forgot to mention that you can also set the screen to 1080p to save substantial battery life if you can't really see the difference between it and 4k. You can even set to 720p if you want.
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4k? I thought it was 1440! But anyway imo it's not worth it at all. What do you gain? Do you have a problem with note 5? If it's performance related note 7 is likely the same or if it's thr purple smudge
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4k? I thought it was 1440! But anyway imo it's not worth it at all. What do you gain? Do you have a problem with note 5? If it's performance related note 7 is likely the same or if it's thr purple smudge
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Yes, what I meant was 2k, not 4k, lol.
No purple smudge on my Note5. No real problem with Note5 except the very limited 32gb storage, which I obviously knew about before buying. I thought it was going to be enough, I was wrong.
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Yes, what I meant was 2k, not 4k, lol.
No purple smudge on my Note5. No real problem with Note5 except the very limited 32gb storage, which I obviously knew about before buying. I thought it was going to be enough, I was wrong.
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I actually made a thread although now i regret it because I thought the phone is released but it seems it's still not out yet! But they said the same thing about note 4 and ot does have it. Are you sure? Have you checked in gallery? Maybe the picture you check is bright! How about lag or delays. When you compare it next to a nexus or an iPhone.is it smooth?
kamranhaghighi said:
I actually made a thread although now i regret it because I thought the phone is released but it seems it's still not out yet! But they said the same thing about note 4 and ot does have it. Are you sure? Have you checked in gallery? Maybe the picture you check is bright! How about lag or delays. When you compare it next to a nexus or an iPhone.is it smooth?
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Yea my pretty sure my Note5 doesn't have that issue.
About lag, are you asking about the Note7? With my brief time with it in the store, I can say there aren't any lags but of course it may be different when we're actually using it as our own.
To put it in perspective, what motivation will Nexus 6P owners have to upgrade to the 2016 version? It'll have generationally better h/w but what else? Especially considering the OS is/was/will be the same on both devices. Hardware and software has matured so the generational differences between devices get smaller each year. Unless you're a big gamer what apps are going to be noticeably faster between Exynos 7420 and 8890 or Snapdragon 810 and 820? If you want a Note7 and feel like spending the money, get it. If not I'm guessing 90% of what you do on your phone would perform just as well on a Note5. I've personally given up on rationalizing getting a new phone every year. I just chalk it up to a whim because I like the latest and greatest.
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To put it in perspective, what motivation will Nexus 6P owners have to upgrade to the 2016 version? It'll have generationally better h/w but what else? Especially considering the OS is/was/will be the same on both devices. Hardware and software has matured so the generational differences between devices get smaller each year. Unless you're a big gamer what apps are going to be noticeably faster between Exynos 7420 and 8890 or Snapdragon 810 and 820? If you want a Note7 and feel like spending the money, get it. If not I'm guessing 90% of what you do on your phone would perform just as well on a Note5. I've personally given up on rationalizing getting a new phone every year. I just chalk it up to a whim because I like the latest and greatest.
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Me also.
Nothing to rationize really, if I want a new device i buy one its not like I need to make a list of pluses and minuses or try to justify it..thats ridiculous its a phone not a car. Not a really major expense lol.
In this particular case though for me going from note 5 i do really want the SD support the 7 offers.
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I gave up on the note 5 along time ago mainly because of the poor battery life, I went to the s7e and battery is much better. I really like the s7e but will be getting a note 7 as soon as it's out to test the loser will be the back up phone
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I upgraded from Note 5 to Note 7 couple of days ago. I am very fond of the Note 7, except the external speaker audio quality. It so high pitched and lacks bass. Note 5 sound is waaaay better and louder
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Abu-khulzat said:
I upgraded from Note 5 to Note 7 couple of days ago. I am very fond of the Note 7, except the external speaker audio quality. It so high pitched and lacks bass. Note 5 sound is waaaay better and louder
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Thats due to the water resistance likely, which for myself is pointless as i am not stupid enough to use my device in a wet enviroment.
I would much rather ditch that and have far better audio quality. Personal preference of course and others seem to find the water resistance important
If the audio is that bad it would be a deal breaker for me and i will send it back.
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Generalgore said:
Want to know if it is worth upgrading from the note 5 to note 7? If so Why??
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This sort of question is THE most common on all forum brands. The answer is yes and no. In other words some will upgrade while others are still happily using the note 1. It is a very personal issue and one only you can answer.
Let us know what you decide?
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