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My extremely short review of the Moto 360

In short:
- It looks amazing on the wrist and it's worth the price and desire only for this "feature" (I have the silver version).
- It's so confortable you forget you wear it.
- As of now you can't do any useful things with it. The heart rate monitor barely works when you stand still, let alone when you move. It's just for fun and conversation. My LG G2 notification LED is so powerful that it can communicate more things than the watch can.
- It's just a lame remote for the phone right now.
What is needed (mostly from Androir Wear):
- Canned responses, easily accessible and sortable.
- Different vibration patterns depending on notification type (API ?)
- Standalone Wi-Fi functioning (as I understand, the Moto 360 has the Wi-Fi hardware)
- More open API to enable more powerful applications
- I think it's possible to type on the watch, but Google just needs to let developers try it in an official way
Hopefully the Apple Watch approach with powerful applications residing on the watch will "inspire" the Android Wear team to enable more stand-alone functionality.
That's about it. I like the hardware a lot, but the software is in its infancy. I think Samsung's Tizen approach is appropriate at this time, given how limited the Android Wear is.

kevinlevrone said:
In short:
- It looks amazing on the wrist and it's worth the price and desire only for this "feature" (I have the silver version).
- It's so confortable you forget you wear it.
- As of now you can't do any useful things with it. It's just for fun and conversation. My LG G2 notification LED is so powerful that it can communicate more things that the watch can.
- It's just a lame remote for the phone right now.
What is needed (mostly from Androir Wear):
- Canned responses, easily accessible and sortable.
- Different vibration patterns depending on notification type (API ?)
- Standalone Wi-Fi functioning (as I understand, the Moto 360 has the Wi-Fi hardware)
- More open API to enable more powerful applications
- I think it's possible to type on the watch, but Google just needs to let developers try it in an official way
Hopefully the Apple Watch approach with powerful applications residing on the watch will "inspire" the Android Wear team to enable more stand-alone functionality.
That's about it. I like the hardware a lot, but the software is in its infancy. I think Samsung's Tizen approach is appropriate at this time, given how limited the Android Wear is.
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disagree with the "can't do anything useful" comment...
use autovoice, tasker and google search api and the possibilities are limited to what tasker can do (almost limitless). requires root and a little work, but i now have my watch running tasker tasks including controlling my home automation system... i feel like james bond. "ok, google. flush toilet!"
can't wait for android L

Nub question. What's API ?
Will we see upgrades with Wear 2.0/ Android L?
I'm expecting my watch by the 15th...the wait is killing me.

gerg004 said:
Nub question. What's API ?
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http://lmgtfy.com/?q=API

Wiley_11 said:
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=API
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Thank you, sir.
I mean, Troll*.

kevinlevrone said:
In short:
- Canned responses, easily accessible and sortable.
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I agree that they should be sortable, but it has canned responses.
Tap reply to a text or email, instead of speaking, swipe up.
Yes
No
OK
Hehe
Thanks
I Agree
Nice
On my Way
OK, Let me get back to you later

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Tap reply to a text or email, instead of speaking, swipe up.
Yes
No
OK
Hehe
Thanks
I Agree
Nice
On my Way
OK, Let me get back to you later
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Thanks ! I just didn't realize that this feature was already available. I withdraw 50% of the criticisms Now I just need to find a way to add my own responses (edit: I think I just read that this feature will be available in the upcoming Android L).

Sony Lifelog on Smartwatch 3?

hello,
have since today my SmartWatch 3 and just can not get the Sony Lifelog app to work!
Actually, I should be able to see things from lifelog directly on the Smartwatch, right?
In the Android app I Wear unfortunately not select which app to display with the steps. Here I have only "fit" to choose from.
But other apps make also problems ... So I'm Endomondo Pro user and can not use functions on the SmartWatch, although Endomondo Android Wear supported ... With the free version it's funny enough. I also tried to uninstall and then reinstall ...
Am I doing something wrong? Otherwise, the Smartwatch- so Whatsapp messages etc. will work properly.
Thanks for your help

deifel said:
hello,
have since today my SmartWatch 3 and just can not get the Sony Lifelog app to work!
Actually, I should be able to see things from lifelog directly on the Smartwatch, right?
In the Android app I Wear unfortunately not select which app to display with the steps. Here I have only "fit" to choose from.
But other apps make also problems ... So I'm Endomondo Pro user and can not use functions on the SmartWatch, although Endomondo Android Wear supported ... With the free version it's funny enough. I also tried to uninstall and then reinstall ...
Am I doing something wrong? Otherwise, the Smartwatch- so Whatsapp messages etc. will work properly.
Thanks for your help
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There is no support yet for sw3 from lifelog. We are waiting for an update...

What the f, sony support tells me "not a known issue" go try a other watch at the shop..
. Useless pricks
Good to know im not the only one struggling (hate being loner )

Apb said:
What the f, sony support tells me "not a known issue" go try a other watch at the shop..
. Useless pricks
Good to know im not the only one struggling (hate being loner )
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The last update offers support for SWR30 smartband (10 days ago). So i guess the next one will be for SWR50...

Well, that's fail on their end, one thing lifelog is not ready to be used with swr50, but they even have following sentence in description:
Description
To best enjoy SmartWear Experience, Sony asks that your device is running Android 4.4; KitKat, has support for Bluetooth®4.0 Low Energy and that you are using Sony SmartWear apparel - SmartBand, SmartBand Talk or SmartWatch 3

Exactly my thoughts, quite a big fail. Also product description on the sonymobile states about synchronise with lifelog after workout. One of the main reasons to replacevthe swr10/sw1 combination with swr50 for me

Just checked lifelog apk and there is no android wear micro app in it, so no doubts we cannot find it on the watch.
I bet band talk was easier as it runs their own software and with sw 3 they will have to re-implement it from scratch (e.g. I hope they will use Google Fit api)

Thats the answer from "Sony Mobile Communications" on my comment in PlayStore about LifeLog support for SWR50:
"Hi Bill. We would advise checking for any new updates available for the application via the Play Store to ensure you have the newest version of the application which is able to be downloaded to your device."
Just ...LOL!

I was amazed when I got my watch loaded up Android Wear and didn't see Lifelog as an option under any of the commands. The app itself makes no mention of it, nor does any instruction manual (not that the watch really had one).
It is crazy though that the advertising on the website, the sticker on the watch itself and the box all mention Lifelog, yet it does not actually work (yet).
I have been pestering @sonyuK on Twitter who told me to ask @SonyXperiagb.
I asked....
why does the Smartwatch 3 not support the Lifelog app as advertised? It's a great watch but this seems like a major oversight
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They responded...
what exactly happens when trying to use the application with the Smartwatch 3?
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They clearly have no idea about the products they are marketing.

In 3 days it's the official smartwatch3 launch from sony. So let's cross our fingers and pray...

Its there!!! Spotted in play store
Support for smartwatch 3 is mentioned as new feature...
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30 minutes later, still dont see any recorded step appearing in lifelog..
Dont get it...seen some crashes on the watch for Fit process....
Might consider full reset of watch atm

Apb said:
Its there!!! Spotted in play store
Support for smartwatch 3 is mentioned as new feature...
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30 minutes later, still dont see any recorded step appearing in lifelog..
Dont get it...seen some crashes on the watch for Fit process....
Might consider full reset of watch atm
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Yeah I have updated and it is not detected in Android Wear App as an option for any command, nor is there any option in LifeLog to connect the phone. This is bollocks.

Bojanglez said:
Yeah I have updated and it is not detected in Android Wear App as an option for any command, nor is there any option in LifeLog to connect the phone. This is bollocks.
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to be honest, i suspect it has to show up on Fit, settings, connected apps or something. However it is empty. When selecting 'all apps' overthere, lifelog does show with some permissions. Just somehow it is not enough to get Fit data into Lifelog....
anyone any ideas?

Yeah, its not syncing for me either. Did anyone have any luck with a reset by any chance?

Apb said:
to be honest, i suspect it has to show up on Fit, settings, connected apps or something. However it is empty. When selecting 'all apps' overthere, lifelog does show with some permissions. Just somehow it is not enough to get Fit data into Lifelog....
anyone any ideas?
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have to reconsider my statement. After installing runkeerper, it partly confirms my thoughts. It does require to link the apps , but runkeeper shows up as app to start and use on the watch. So with that , the lifelog is not complete as it is now. (did not do a reset yet, thats my next step now )

Today saw an update in play store that says it supports the SSW3... But I don't see it in my sw ?

update today but any app is present on the smartwatch 3

Same here, they should get their act together, this is false advertisement !

task named "lifelog"
On my smartwatch 3 I have "Advanced Wear Task Killer". There is a task named lifelog.
So I think the update changed something but I also dont see any function.

Confirmed that one. But indeed the process doesnt seem to be doing anything
Also changing any setting in lifelog app (seems to new setting btw) changes nothing...

Just a quick question

I currently have a SM2 and enjoy a very useful watchface that I was able to completely customize with a huge amount of info produced by the very capable NeonDigit app that was developed by a member on here, it has about 10 individual data
Time/date
Time (other Time zone)
weather
Temp
exchange rate
battery for watch
battery for phone
calls
I also have an app that allows me to control powerAmp player (on the phone) remotely from the watch
All great and very useful
So I was considering buying a SM3 and have a few questions
1. In terms of apps etc is it all mostly Android wear and not SM3 specific
2. Are there custom watch faces like what I mentioned above that I can use on SW3
I just want to make sure that I can do mostly what I do now on SW2 on SW3 - is this all possible ?

I was using Facer time ago, it is awesome and there are a lot of watchfaces that allows you to do this
and about poweramp.. well i think android wear can control any music player, i'm using it to control play music
search for facerepo in google, there are a lot of watch faces

Thanks for the info and quick reply, will keep an eye out for a good deal on SW3
My SW2 is getting a bit old now and the charge/usb cover is long gone - can't find anywhere for a replacement, I think soon enough there is going to be water gets in there forcing me to change anyway lol

Well, the SW3 won't be getting AW2 officially, and the work-in-progress port don't look too promising. So it will eventually be out of date. Just keep that in mind when buying one in 2017.

Galaxy Watch with huawei phone

Hi
I have samsung galaxy watch and huawei mate 10 pro. I cant use any alarm app with sync gear watch .
Just i want to turn off phone alarm via watch. İ tried so much apk(samsung alarm apk too) but i cant do it. Any ideas? ..
Thanks.

pacific911 said:
Hi
I have samsung galaxy watch and huawei mate 10 pro. I cant use any alarm app with sync gear watch .
Just i want to turn off phone alarm via watch. İ tried so much apk(samsung alarm apk too) but i cant do it. Any ideas? ..
Thanks.
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Sorry to be harsh but get rid of the phone and get a Samsung model - for two reasons (#2 is actually more important):
1. For instance, the default (or any) alarm clock snooze etc. features on the watch vs. phone DO NOT WORK unless the Samsung Clock on the Samsung Watch is talking to the Samsung (or just Android - not third party clock) on the Samsung phone. (That is my experience). Does anyone know how much of this functionality is actually available from public Google API's as part of the OS so that different vendors can have different apps (such as one clock app talking to another clock app for properly handing the snooze/alarm time change/etc other functionality)? Those API's are publicly available (Google trying to encourage software development) so I could dig up the answer but don't want to bother (sorry! - please look and report back on this thread if you like).
2. It was announced on the news recently (I saw it just yesterday) that the US government finally have documented proof of a "smoking gun" example of a Huawai phone having been accessed by the Chinese government using a back door built into the phone. Google the news stories and read the details for yourself if you do not believe me!
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FFS the US Government spies on every other nation on the planet. Where is the "smoking gun" with documented proof? Do you really believe everything your goverment or Google tells you? Has it never occurred to you that this smear campaign by the POTUSA may have other reasons? Maybe Huawei is refusing to pass data onto the US spy agencies.

NFC get working on GT2 Pro

Any workaround for NFC working in EU?

We shall rise this question up. Since GT2, we did not get support of NFC outside of China region.

After I playing around the watch with several versions (current/old/beta) of China Huawei Health app, I believe it is a region and firmware lock on non-CN version GT2 Pro.
Basically, the app detect my GT2 Pro is saled in EU, so it provide the firmware update for EU model, even though the hardware inside all models should be the same (all have NFC chip).
The same issue comes with the 301 heart health app, which available for China model, and it allows the watch uses your heart rate data to diagnose premature atrial contraction and sleep apnea, which is a key feature advertised in China for these huawei smart bands and watches.
Again, you might guess, CN GT2 Pro model support this function. And my EU GT2 Pro was locked for this app to recognise.
Since Huawei EU offical state they will not support full NFC functions outside of China.
The only possible workaround is somebody with high skill, that able to flash Chinese firmware into EU model, which might unlock all these NFC cards, alipay, and heart health app functions. If that's still not working, then it will also required to trick the Huawei Health app to believe the EU model as a CN model.
I am not capable of doing these works, but people in this forum might be dig deeper into this topic.

Humanoid_999 said:
After I playing around the watch with several versions (current/old/beta) of China Huawei Health app, I believe it is a region and firmware lock on non-CN version GT2 Pro.
Basically, the app detect my GT2 Pro is saled in EU, so it provide the firmware update for EU model, even though the hardware inside all models should be the same (all have NFC chip).
The same issue comes with the 301 heart health app, which available for China model, and it allows the watch uses your heart rate data to diagnose premature atrial contraction and sleep apnea, which is a key feature advertised in China for these huawei smart bands and watches.
Again, you might guess, CN GT2 Pro model support this function. And my EU GT2 Pro was locked for this app to recognise.
Since Huawei EU offical state they will not support full NFC functions outside of China.
The only possible workaround is somebody with high skill, that able to flash Chinese firmware into EU model, which might unlock all these NFC cards, alipay, and heart health app functions. If that's still not working, then it will also required to trick the Huawei Health app to believe the EU model as a CN model.
I am not capable of doing these works, but people in this forum might be dig deeper into this topic.
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Don't think that will be possible.. Don't understand huawei why they doin these restrictions..

It could be due to the restriction of certain regions, such as the functions of heart health app could be not approved by other country governments, as it is a feature related to human healthcare.
For example, it might require FDA approval to activate this function in USA, just like what Apple watch has done; likewise, the ECG function of apple watch is disabled in China model, because it did not gain the approval by the China government, but people still been allowed to flash US firmware to enable this feature on China model.
I don't have a EU huawei phone, so I am not sure how NFC of huawei phone is like. But I don't understand why NFC is not enabled in non-CN region, simply not make sense.

When you buy a product with its full function limited, Huawei just pissed off its customers, the fault of terrible closed ecosystem.

A small update on heart health app:
I have to install the huawei Health app first to connect my watch to my phone; then install the Heart Health app. Fot CN model, by that time, the second app will automatically connect to your phone-linked watch. But for my situion, what this app said to my watch is: the app does not support current version of this watch. So it is not connecting to my watch.
However, if I using a older beta version of Huawei health app, to connect to my watch; the Heart Health app can actually connected to my watch, but it is not able actually to perform the diagnose, showing error when activated.
So I suspect there are two major problems await resolve.
First, that is a software lock based on newer version of Huawei Health app, which refuse the EU watch to connect to Heart Health app.
Second, the firmware provided to EU model is missing the code for proper heart health function (and of course the rest functions like NFC). So must have Chinese firmware flushed into the watch. And surprisingly, it has multi. language support. What a strange decision.

I own a GT2 not pro, i don't know if anyone is still reading, bear with me if I say something stupid because I'm a complete amateur but I think this could be useful. I think the options are there but hidden. For example two weeks ago I purcheased a watchface i liked with dual timezone but I can't find the option in the menu to set it, some watchface are customizable and I came across another one orribile but that allowed me. I tried to set the timezone and it changed to the one I set on the other face as well. Today I found by chance one that had the alipay logo on it so I decided to experiment and purchased it (you can look it up on the store, it is called "little summer night"). The face doesn't allow you to customise the shortcuts but the alipay one seems to actually work, I don't speak Chinese and the English language in the alipay app is beta so the bare minimum is translated but it seems i was successful in pairing the watch.

Yes, indeed. After successfully access Alipay via certain watchface, now, the only missing part is nfc.

Angelo0369 said:
I own a GT2 not pro, i don't know if anyone is still reading, bear with me if I say something stupid because I'm a complete amateur but I think this could be useful. I think the options are there but hidden. For example two weeks ago I purcheased a watchface i liked with dual timezone but I can't find the option in the menu to set it, some watchface are customizable and I came across another one orribile but that allowed me. I tried to set the timezone and it changed to the one I set on the other face as well. Today I found by chance one that had the alipay logo on it so I decided to experiment and purchased it (you can look it up on the store, it is called "little summer night"). The face doesn't allow you to customise the shortcuts but the alipay one seems to actually work, I don't speak Chinese and the English language in the alipay app is beta so the bare minimum is translated but it seems i was successful in pairing the watch.
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