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Best 3rd Party Bluetooth Controller?

Have a Shield Tablet and i have ordered the official Nvidia wireless controller from Amazon but they are taking forever to send it (currently doesnt even have a shipping estimate and i pre-ordered it). Im considering getting an affordable bluetooth controller for the time being (and using it as a secondary controller later).
The issue is all of the controllers ive come across have very mixed reviews. I dont need anything fancy just something thats functional and reliable. Id like it to offer analog sticks and all the required buttons.
So whats the best brand/model 3rd party controller thats 100% functional on the shield tablet?
Thanks

I'm gonna try the Moga Pro, kinda expensive but I shouldn't have to buy the Nvidia one if I have it.

The one for the Amazon Kindle Fire TV works quite well.

Moga pro looks awasome
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Moga Pro. Had the first Moga Pro and updated to the Moga Power Pro when that came out too.

how do you map your 3rd party controller's buttons? I have the Asus controller that I ordered with my Nexus Player. It seems to work great, I just need to map the power button on the controller as being the start button.

I own a couple of the Nvidia Shield controllers, and they're great and all. Particularly as they were made for the console, they work pretty well. But after taking a look into the Power A Moga Pro, have decided to order a couple of them. Despite their steep price, they seem to be well worth it. Especially as I can also use the MP with a phone.

Certain members of my family, namely my luddite partner, have found the official shield remote complicated to use. For our second Shield this time I ordered the Amazon Kindle Fire Voice TV Remote, as it has all of the buttons on the official Shield remote, but the addition of a pause, fast forward, rewind, and menu buttons. It also has properly labelled Android buttons for home and back. I have hoped this will encourage her to use Kodi etc. more.
We have been using it for two or three days now and my first impressions are these; this is much cheaper than the official remote, it is a very nice bit of kit although being made of plastic is does not have the same premium feel as the official remote, and the buttons make noise when you click them which I personally find ever slightly cheapens the experience. That is not to say it feels cheap - it is of good build quality. Opting for this remote you also lose the functionality of a micro USB port to charge, and instead have to use batteries, starting with those included, and you will also lose the 3.5mm headphones jack port. The voice control does work but you need to hold the button down to speak rather pressing it just once - we have had some issues with voice not working, as in not responding at all to the audio of our voices, and Android apparently getting stuck on the screen where it listens. To resolve this we needed to cold reboot the shield. Sometimes it also takes a few button presses to get the Shield to start responding, but once it does it keeps working at least for that session. We have our shield behind the TV so I am not sure whether that may be a factor with the signal or not.
All of that said, I would still recommend this over the official remote and not just because of the difference in price. For the room this Shield is in we are less likely to need to use the headphones, and we always have the game controller for that.

I am retracting my recommendation for using the Amazon Fire TV Voice Remote with the Shield, it just has too many issues, half the time it does not work and a reboot is required, and often it takes several keypresses to get a response on screen, and often I cannot boot the shield using the remote, even pressing the different buttons repeatedly.
I started using the official remote again and it was a relief, it is overpriced, it lacks rewind, fast forward etc. buttons, but it just works all of the time.

I've got a Razer Serval, can't map the buttons, so it's pretty crap really

Promising voice remote with IR programmable buttons
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Please Note : it Maybe can Not use well on Samsung and LG Smart Tv directly. Due to the special systems of Samsung and LG TVs, There will be compatibility issues.many remote controls cannot be perfectly compatible. if Samsung or LG Smart Tv connecte android tv box , you can use our remote...
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looks like the only downside is weird "boxput" logo
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[Q] Best 3rd party controller out-of-box

I have some games on my Fire TV I'd like to play, but need a game controller. I don't currently have any compatible controllers, so I thought I might as well buy the official one. However, it looks like both it and the Nyko pad are on back-order for around a month. Rather than wait, I'd like to get a decent third party controller, preferrably wireless. Can anyone say definitively which controller (other than the official one or Nyko) is the most functional out-of-box. FYI, my Fire TV is unrooted with current firmware, so anything requiring root is out.
Here are some of my current choices:
Microsoft Xbox 360 controller for Windows (included USB receiver)
Logitech F710, wireless USB receiver
Logitech F310, wired USB
The Xbox receiver supposedly supports up to 4 controllers. Would the Fire TV and any apps currently out support them? I'm partial to Logitech gear, but I read somewhere that on the Fire TV the F710 uses "xinput mode", emulating an Xbox controller. Does this mean it would work just as well as the Xbox or a close second? While I prefer wireless, I listed the F310 for the obvious benefit of not having to recharge or replace batteries. I don't play enough to where a cord would really bother me. If there are major caveats with the wireless ones, I might just get the F310.

Amazon controller would be best in my opinion for full compatibility. I have an ouya controller which works very well and waiting on the nyko play pad pro cause I picked it up cheap on amazon so I couldn't pass it up. If I prefer the nyko, I'll end up getting rid of the ouya one most likely or keep it to use with the other aftv.
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ashmanmb said:
Amazon controller would be best in my opinion for full compatibility. I have an ouya controller which works very well and waiting on the nyko play pad pro cause I picked it up cheap on amazon so I couldn't pass it up. If I prefer the nyko, I'll end up getting rid of the ouya one most likely or keep it to use with the other aftv.
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Thanks for the input. I had assumed Amazon had best availability on the Fire Controller, but I found it on Best Buy's eBay Store. Supposedly will deliver by Jan 6-13. We'll see.
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[Q] Gaming Edition or Base Fire TV?

I want top get an Amazon Fire TV Gaming, but the price jump just for the controller made me balk just a bit, would it be better to just get the $99 dollar version and pickup a cheap third party controller?

shiz0id said:
I want top get an Amazon Fire TV Gaming, but the price jump just for the controller made me balk just a bit, would it be better to just get the $99 dollar version and pickup a cheap third party controller?
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The Amazon Controller will probably work better than most other controllers. However, there are quite a few that work fine. I use a Gamestop Red Samurai (bluetooth) and it works great. It was $7 when I bought it from Gamestop. Don't know if they went up on the price since I bought mine. I think there is also a thread that talks about best controllers for the Fire TV also.

If you are looking for a compatible controller I have a working & non working list here -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-tv/help/aftv2-best-compatible-apps-accessories-t3269267

I don't know how the new Amazon Game Controller is, but I got the first-gen edition and the D-Pad is stiff as a rock. If you plan on playing any fighting games, I wouldn't recommend getting the older controller. Otherwise, it works great if you only play games that use the analog sticks.

sneezing_corgi said:
I don't know how the new Amazon Game Controller is, but I got the first-gen edition and the D-Pad is stiff as a rock. If you plan on playing any fighting games, I wouldn't recommend getting the older controller. Otherwise, it works great if you only play games that use the analog sticks.
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I just got the rockcandy xbox 360 controller (wired) in asorted colors & works great, dpad & sticks superloose & feels great In your hands.
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deanr1977 said:
If you are looking for a compatible controller I have a working & non working list here -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-tv/help/aftv2-best-compatible-apps-accessories-t3269267
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Much Appreciated

Sideclick Remote

Has anyone tried a Sideclick Remote with their FireTV? I've just ordered one from the US as they look pretty good as a universal remote solution. There aren't many reviews around, but the videos on YouTube look pretty positive and it's not all that expensive compared to a universal remote. Not sure if I'm allowed to post the link on here so I'll just stick on an image.

dunjamon said:
Has anyone tried a Sideclick Remote with their FireTV? I've just ordered one from the US as they look pretty good as a universal remote solution. There aren't many reviews around, but the videos on YouTube look pretty positive and it's not all that expensive compared to a universal remote. Not sure if I'm allowed to post the link on here so I'll just stick on an image.
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I kickstarted this project and have been using it for a long time. It is great! I got rid of 2 extra remotes and now have 99% of the functionality I need in one place.

That's what I'm hoping for. Hopefully it will be able to map my TV and soundbar into one

dunjamon said:
That's what I'm hoping for. Hopefully it will be able to map my TV and soundbar into one
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Yup - that's exactly what I do. I use the A and B buttons to do my soundbar volume, and + and - to do my TV volume.

I've got one and have been using it for months. Quite happy with the way it works. I have most of the functions setup to control my Xbox One and the volume plus and minus buttons for my soundbar that it's hooked up to. Works great! The only complaint I have is that it doesn't stay in one place when attached to the Fire TV remote and easily slides up and down.

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I've got one and have been using it for months. Quite happy with the way it works. I have most of the functions setup to control my Xbox One and the volume plus and minus buttons for my soundbar that it's hooked up to. Works great! The only complaint I have is that it doesn't stay in one place when attached to the Fire TV remote and easily slides up and down.
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I've noticed that the Fire TV 2 remote is the tiniest bit narrower than the Fire TV 1 remote, so it does slide a bit. If you stick something in there such as a piece of a rubber band, it will stay still and out of sight.

Another alternative is to get a FLIRC to make your existing universal IR remote work with the fire. Add in a $1 180-degree usb extender to keep things looking classy and you're set.

Got my hands on it and it's really useful. It's got a nice snug fit to the fire TV 2 remote, they might have updated the design slightly. It's gonna take me a little getting used to, but so far so good!

Remote

I have a smart TV, a cable box & nVidia Shield (on it's way)... The cable box is a POS from the dark ages & doesn't register any channels on the Smart TV (LG WebOS 3.0).
Can I get a remote that will operate all three devices? I'm considering the Logitech Harmony, which would be ideal, coz I also want to install a hub... but details of the remote are sketchy... Also looking at the K400 keyboard as a remote...?
BTW, I tried operating the cable box using Peel in the past, but it refused to work...

I bought a re-furb "Logitech harmony ultimate hub" (no remote included, just works via phone app) back in november, to match up with my echo dot....Works perfectly! It controls my non-smart Samsung plasma TV, my smart Yamaha receiver, samsung Blu-ray player, Samsung cable box, and of course the sheild TV. I also have a very old k400, and that works very well with the shield as well.

I'm not sure exactly that the newest Harmony Remotes bring, sans being perhaps able to talk to ZigBee Lighting Devices. I'm not awre of any of the newer Remotes having either a Gyro, (Air Mouse), or a Mic (for Google Now etc...)
So as long as you only need a good IR Blaster I would suggest scouring Fleebay for a Harmony One, or to cover your basic Bluetooth (i.e. PlayStation 3 - Blu-ray Players), the Harmony One Plus.
Both of these should now be about half, to a third of the price of a newer Harmony remote, and are just as good... Or even better than the newer remotes in that these still have a full Numpad on them I think the Elite will only give you a soft Touch Numpad. Which may or may not be as simple to deal with.
In my experience with it I would prefer the hard Numpad. But that's just me.