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how it behaves with respect to the ram, the phone gets very hot? such is the camera? I come from a s3 and my experience was pesima regarding ram memory, gets very hot s3 lot and do not want to repeat the bad experience, really worth the investment???
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how it behaves with respect to the ram, the phone gets very hot? such is the camera? I come from a s3 and my experience was pesima regarding ram memory, gets very hot s3 lot and do not want to repeat the bad experience, really worth the investment???
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It is very slim and build of metal. So it gets hot on heavy usage. But it is a normal behavior. Not too hot, just normal for this kind of devices.
Mr.DonDroid said:
It is very slim and build of metal. So it gets hot on heavy usage. But it is a normal behavior. Not too hot, just normal for this kind of devices.
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I've been reading and they say it gets very hot at all, well your hardware is poorly optimized is that true?
If you have the moooney, buy p7.
kayserxx said:
I've been reading and they say it gets very hot at all, well your hardware is poorly optimized is that true?
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It is very good optimized.
Mr.DonDroid said:
It is very good optimized.
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the hardware is optimized for gaming?
kayserxx said:
how it behaves with respect to the ram, the phone gets very hot? such is the camera? I come from a s3 and my experience was pesima regarding ram memory, gets very hot s3 lot and do not want to repeat the bad experience, really worth the investment???
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Hi !
Because my wife had SIII, I can tell you that it does not compare these two devices, regarding as performance !
SIII gave me a very good impression, running flawless most of the games;
Here we have some issues regarding : device gets hot from time to time ( and varies from one device to another ), games and also browser !
But all these disadvantages must be understood, as is due mostly from his thin design, and also from his inefficient cpu based on lithography 40 nm.
Anyway the quality and design prevails, and will be long time one of the most attractive device to market .
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the hardware is optimized for gaming?
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You can play games, and heavy ones too, but keep in mind that this device is made for the fashion market not top gear.
Or you can get the P6S if you can find it.
It's the power of \m/
I have had many android smartphones and I've always preferred metal ones like the HTC Desire Z but they get pretty warm when you play games or watch videos by the way they are 3 times more strong than plastic or glass ones (Samsung & Iphone) :cyclops:
Mfsto said:
I have had many android smartphones and I've always preferred metal ones like the HTC Desire Z but they get pretty warm when you play games or watch videos by the way they are 3 times more strong than plastic or glass ones (Samsung & Iphone) :cyclops:
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This is a phone. You want games? Buy a PS.
Hi,
currently I am thinking about swithing from N7 2012 (grouper) to 8.4 (non-LTE) and I am little bit scared from what I read here or on any other sites...
I read lot about lags, poor performance, these problems were slightly mentioned even in reviews. But when I am reading here how many problems 8.4 user`s have I am thinking of buying Shield Tablet.
Can anybody please provide his own opinion on the 8.4 version? Is really real life performance that bad? - Benchmarks show different things...
Thanks for your replies...
senel said:
Hi,
currently I am thinking about swithing from N7 2012 (grouper) to 8.4 (non-LTE) and I am little bit scared from what I read here or on any other sites...
I read lot about lags, poor performance, these problems were slightly mentioned even in reviews. But when I am reading here how many problems 8.4 user`s have I am thinking of buying Shield Tablet.
Can anybody please provide his own opinion on the 8.4 version? Is really real life performance that bad? - Benchmarks show different things...
Thanks for your replies...
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I have the 8.4 Tab s and performance wise I think it's good. I haven't noticed any lags. I'm not running anything out of the ordinary though. I don't play games on it. Mostly for media consumption. Battery life has also been good. It can comfortably last a day browsing and watching videos.
Quality control on the other hand I'm not too happy about. This is my third Tab S. The first two had a dead pixel, so I exchanged them. On this one no dead pixel, but there's a pink tint on a slight tilt. It's noticeable when I put the Tab S on a desk for example in portrait orientation. Obviously in that case I would be viewing the device tilted since it would be uncomfortable for me to put my head directly over it over the desk.
I am afraid of input lags mentioned here on forums. I'd like the tablet for taking notes and mainly consume content.
I am not hardcore gamer, but sometimes I like to play games like FIFA or Autumn Dynasty.
YouTube videos shows pretty good gaming performance and also pretty significant lags in Touchwiz. Are there really that bad or is was solved by update?
I would say it's pretty decent replacement for Nexus 7. Shield tablet also looks good (and has stylus - big plus) but the display and is not as good.
senel said:
I am afraid of input lags mentioned here on forums. I'd like the tablet for taking notes and mainly consume content.
I am not hardcore gamer, but sometimes I like to play games like FIFA or Autumn Dynasty.
YouTube videos shows pretty good gaming performance and also pretty significant lags in Touchwiz. Are there really that bad or is was solved by update?
I would say it's pretty decent replacement for Nexus 7. Shield tablet also looks good (and has stylus - big plus) but the display and is not as good.
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TouchWiz has been fine for me. No lag.
senel said:
I am afraid of input lags mentioned here on forums. I'd like the tablet for taking notes and mainly consume content.
I am not hardcore gamer, but sometimes I like to play games like FIFA or Autumn Dynasty.
YouTube videos shows pretty good gaming performance and also pretty significant lags in Touchwiz. Are there really that bad or is was solved by update?
I would say it's pretty decent replacement for Nexus 7. Shield tablet also looks good (and has stylus - big plus) but the display and is not as good.
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I'm not going to pay 5 dollars to test a game for you, but I would be happy to download fifa14 and any other free game to test for you.
I am getting unbearable lag in Simpsons Tapped Out, so I'm curious to know how other games perform on this tablet. Let me know if any games come to mind that you would like me to test out
senel said:
I am afraid of input lags mentioned here on forums. I'd like the tablet for taking notes and mainly consume content.
I am not hardcore gamer, but sometimes I like to play games like FIFA or Autumn Dynasty.
YouTube videos shows pretty good gaming performance and also pretty significant lags in Touchwiz. Are there really that bad or is was solved by update?
I would say it's pretty decent replacement for Nexus 7. Shield tablet also looks good (and has stylus - big plus) but the display and is not as good.
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I love my Tab S 8.4, but I have two concerns about it:
- Screen homogeneity
- Performances
Let's start with screen homogeneity:
I exchanged the tablet several times and tested some more in stores. All of them were affected by screen homogeneity issues. I am being really touchy here, as it is only visible in specific situations: Extremely dark homogenous images that are not black, looked at in the darkness. The background used for TouchWiz settings for instance si affected: When looking at it in the darkness, I can see a gradiant from a dark deep blue to a lighter, green tinted blue. It looks quite good, but it's a deflect known as "mura effect".
Besides that, this is pretty much a non issue when looking at bright/mixed colors. The colors are vibrant, the contrast increadible, the blacks are black and the viewing angles are excellent. The counterpart is that the low quality of some textures become much more obvious with such a good screen.
Now, the performance part is more annoying:
Coming from a Note 8.0 and a Nexus 7 2013, I was hoping for much better performances on the Tab S 8.4. And I am disappointed.
The unit does to be swifter, but it's lacks smoothness. It could be related to the amount of pixels to display, to the lack of GFX power, to poor Exynos/Firmware optimization, to TW issue... but the result is a lack of perceived performances compared to my previous tablets.
Again, I am being touchy: I am used to perfectly smooth animations on 2013 tablets, and I notice stuttering and slower animations in general on this one. Here are some examples comparing Nexus 7 2013 to Tab S 8.4:
- Opening/Closing windows or apps animation: This one is 100% smooth on the N7, while often stuttering on S 8.4. At its best it can look smooth, but N7 will still look smoother. It also affects fading effects during loading times: In the playstore for instance, when loading a new page the fading effect tends to stutter.
On another hand, apps are loading slightly faster on Tab S 8.4.
- Games: I tested Riptide GP2 and Asphalt 8, and am now installing Fifa 14. Both game are running ok, but suffer from DPS drops. Riptide GP2 automatically goes for average settings, and still doesn't run as smooth as it does on my N7.
- Perfect Viewer (Comics reader) and Moon+ Reader (e-book reader): Two of my favourite apps, both of them are quite obviously running smoother on my N7 than on Tab S 8.4. By smoother, I mean scrolling pages with a higher FPS.
- Web browsing: No issue here, the pages are loading quickly (maybe even faster than on N7)
- Benchmarks: No issues here either. The Tab S 8.4 is a killer in benchmarks, with theorically a good 50% more performances than N7 2013. It looks like the power is there, and is optimized for benchmarks.
- TW scrolling: Extremely smooth, nothing to report here. Every launcher I tried ran smoothly when it comes to scrolling, but all are still affected with transitions during loading times.
As a bottomline, my feeling is mixed up. The power is obviously there, but it looks like only few apps are optimized for it. I hope to see improvement in future firmware, official or not.
Because even through these issues, this is an increadible piece of hardware. Difficilt to handle without a cover (it is too thin, and so are its borders), but well built, extremely slim and with an increadible display. It would definitely be an iPad killer if it was backed up by as much optimization efforts as Apple puts in its devices.
ukael said:
I love my Tab S 8.4, but I have two concerns about it:
- Screen homogeneity
- Performances
Let's start with screen homogeneity:
I exchanged the tablet several times and tested some more in stores. All of them were affected by screen homogeneity issues. I am being really touchy here, as it is only visible in specific situations: Extremely dark homogenous images that are not black, looked at in the darkness. The background used for TouchWiz settings for instance si affected: When looking at it in the darkness, I can see a gradiant from a dark deep blue to a lighter, green tinted blue. It looks quite good, but it's a deflect known as "mura effect".
Besides that, this is pretty much a non issue when looking at bright/mixed colors. The colors are vibrant, the contrast increadible, the blacks are black and the viewing angles are excellent. The counterpart is that the low quality of some textures become much more obvious with such a good screen.
Now, the performance part is more annoying:
Coming from a Note 8.0 and a Nexus 7 2013, I was hoping for much better performances on the Tab S 8.4. And I am disappointed.
The unit does to be swifter, but it's lacks smoothness. It could be related to the amount of pixels to display, to the lack of GFX power, to poor Exynos/Firmware optimization, to TW issue... but the result is a lack of perceived performances compared to my previous tablets.
Again, I am being touchy: I am used to perfectly smooth animations on 2013 tablets, and I notice stuttering and slower animations in general on this one. Here are some examples comparing Nexus 7 2013 to Tab S 8.4:
- Opening/Closing windows or apps animation: This one is 100% smooth on the N7, while often stuttering on S 8.4. At its best it can look smooth, but N7 will still look smoother. It also affects fading effects during loading times: In the playstore for instance, when loading a new page the fading effect tends to stutter.
On another hand, apps are loading slightly faster on Tab S 8.4.
- Games: I tested Riptide GP2 and Asphalt 8, and am now installing Fifa 14. Both game are running ok, but suffer from DPS drops. Riptide GP2 automatically goes for average settings, and still doesn't run as smooth as it does on my N7.
- Perfect Viewer (Comics reader) and Moon+ Reader (e-book reader): Two of my favourite apps, both of them are quite obviously running smoother on my N7 than on Tab S 8.4. By smoother, I mean scrolling pages with a higher FPS.
- Web browsing: No issue here, the pages are loading quickly (maybe even faster than on N7)
- Benchmarks: No issues here either. The Tab S 8.4 is a killer in benchmarks, with theorically a good 50% more performances than N7 2013. It looks like the power is there, and is optimized for benchmarks.
- TW scrolling: Extremely smooth, nothing to report here. Every launcher I tried ran smoothly when it comes to scrolling, but all are still affected with transitions during loading times.
As a bottomline, my feeling is mixed up. The power is obviously there, but it looks like only few apps are optimized for it. I hope to see improvement in future firmware, official or not.
Because even through these issues, this is an increadible piece of hardware. Difficilt to handle without a cover (it is too thin, and so are its borders), but well built, extremely slim and with an increadible display. It would definitely be an iPad killer if it was backed up by as much optimization efforts as Apple puts in its devices.
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Thank you for your exhaustive post. It gives me pretty good overview over the 8.4 situation and basically confirms my worris. However I`m still tillted towards to buy it.
I read that using 3rd party cases that covers whole back causes back cover deformations. It would be major issue for me if it`s true. Samsung stated that it was SW issue, however many users were complaining about poor plastic used to back cover. So I understand that solution is to OEM cover. Am I right?
And another question: About the year ago Samsung stated that future Exynos 5 power devices (http://www.engadget.com/2013/09/09/samsungs-exynos-5-octa-hmp/) will use 8 cores at same time. This was only mention I found since then. What`s the situation now? Can 8.4 use all 8 cores simultaneously?
senel said:
Thank you for your exhaustive post. It gives me pretty good overview over the 8.4 situation and basically confirms my worris. However I`m still tillted towards to buy it.
I read that using 3rd party cases that covers whole back causes back cover deformations. It would be major issue for me if it`s true. Samsung stated that it was SW issue, however many users were complaining about poor plastic used to back cover. So I understand that solution is to OEM cover. Am I right?
And another question: About the year ago Samsung stated that future Exynos 5 power devices (http://www.engadget.com/2013/09/09/samsungs-exynos-5-octa-hmp/) will use 8 cores at same time. This was only mention I found since then. What`s the situation now? Can 8.4 use all 8 cores simultaneously?
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I have not seen any tab affected by the back cover issues. The quality of the back on mine looks excellent, and feels great.
I personally use the official book cover. It's a little bit heavy, but extremely slim and nicely hardened. Once in position, it has a strong grip on the tab and becomes an efficient support with multiple viewing angles.
senel said:
Hi,
currently I am thinking about swithing from N7 2012 (grouper) to 8.4 (non-LTE) and I am little bit scared from what I read here or on any other sites...
I read lot about lags, poor performance, these problems were slightly mentioned even in reviews. But when I am reading here how many problems 8.4 user`s have I am thinking of buying Shield Tablet.
Can anybody please provide his own opinion on the 8.4 version? Is really real life performance that bad? - Benchmarks show different things...
Thanks for your replies...
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Hey man, I have the SM-T700 rooted and with the SkyHigh kernel, OCed to 2.1GHz, and UVed and it's fully stable, as well and runs cool. I absolutely love it. Build quality is very good, feels solid but light. For me, everything is perfect! It runs games and all apps incredibly. The smoothness of the touch input is the 2nd thing I noticed were very good. The first was the ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL display! I could hardly spot a single pixel from 2 Inches away!! The colors are brilliantly vibrant! I would definitely recommend it for any and all uses. I can't find a single flaw!(and I've tried to!) The book cover case is also very nice, sturdy, and feels good in your hand! Definitely a great choice! Excells in performance and beauty!
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senel said:
Hi,
currently I am thinking about swithing from N7 2012 (grouper) to 8.4 (non-LTE) and I am little bit scared from what I read here or on any other sites...
I read lot about lags, poor performance, these problems were slightly mentioned even in reviews. But when I am reading here how many problems 8.4 user`s have I am thinking of buying Shield Tablet.
Can anybody please provide his own opinion on the 8.4 version? Is really real life performance that bad? - Benchmarks show different things...
Thanks for your replies...
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I take my tablet everywhere! And I have no issues with battery life! Real life performance for me is very good! No hangs or lags with touchwiz for me.
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senel said:
Thank you for your exhaustive post. It gives me pretty good overview over the 8.4 situation and basically confirms my worris. However I`m still tillted towards to buy it.
I read that using 3rd party cases that covers whole back causes back cover deformations. It would be major issue for me if it`s true. Samsung stated that it was SW issue, however many users were complaining about poor plastic used to back cover. So I understand that solution is to OEM cover. Am I right?
And another question: About the year ago Samsung stated that future Exynos 5 power devices (http://www.engadget.com/2013/09/09/samsungs-exynos-5-octa-hmp/) will use 8 cores at same time. This was only mention I found since then. What`s the situation now? Can 8.4 use all 8 cores simultaneously?
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Yep! The little cores take on smaller tasks while the big ones do the heavy lifting.
Once more, thank you guys for feedback.
Today, I ordered tablet, price was little bit ridiculous in my country - almost $600 for non-LTE variant, lol.
Next problem is cover, Samsung does not sell their`s covers in my country and I dont want to pay another $80 - $120 on ebay for Samsung book cover or flip cover.
Can somebody recommend me good cover? I am thinking about this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Baseus-Leather-Case-Cover-with-Sleep-function-For-Samsung-Galaxy-Tab-S-8-4-T700-/281400790543?pt=US_Tablet_eReader_Cases_Covers_Keyboard_Folios&var=&hash=item4184cb4e0f
Questions:
Why does it take forever to install ANY app?
Why is the camera so laggy? Did they really consider this as a production release?
How can I disable encryption? I really feel like the phone would open up without it.
How much thinner does the 6P feel than the 5X? I went from an S6 Edge to the 5X and the 5X feels like a thick plastic brick.
Concerns:
Super slow app install
Screen is average
Speaker quality and volume is atrocious
It's bigger than you think it is
Off screen notifications (like Moto) is nowhere near as good
Cellular antenna is lower quality than my S6
If anyone else has any questions let me know. I am seriously considering trading this in for a 6P (even though I hate huge phones) or just returning it altogether and keeping my S6.
After all of this thinking, I just wish Samsung and Google could do Google Play edition phones again. Samsung seems to get it right in the design and hardware perspective, and Google obviously gets it right with software.
I feel exactly the same as you do in this respect. But comparing the 5x to the Galaxy s6 is not entirely fair as one is a premium £500+ phone, whilst the other is considered a mid tier budget handset.
I've been comparing it to the Nexus 5, which the 5x is supposed to be a successor to. But I'm underwhelmed and disappointed, especially in respects to the sound/audio quality, the hard plastic and the stuttered performance.
withdrawn said:
I feel exactly the same as you do in this respect. But comparing the 5x to the Galaxy s6 is not entirely fair as one is a premium £500+ phone, whilst the other is considered a mid tier budget handset.
I've been comparing it to the Nexus 5, which the 5x is supposed to be a successor to. But I'm underwhelmed and disappointed, especially in respects to the sound/audio quality, the hard plastic and the stuttered performance.
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I agree it isn't fair to compare the design to a phone nearly twice it's price. But it is all that I have to compare to, so it was done. I wish the 6P could've came in the 5X size. I would've even paid the same price.
Disabling the encryption will require a custom kernel I believe(and a wipe of your data). On the Nexus 6 it was like a one line code change and someone always posted one almost immediately after an update was released. Since rooting also requires a custom kernel on marshmallow I would imagine we'll see them pop up fairly quickly.
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I agree it isn't fair to compare the design to a phone nearly twice it's price. But it is all that I have to compare to, so it was done. I wish the 6P could've came in the 5X size. I would've even paid the same price.
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Me too. That would have been awesome if the only difference between both models were the screen sizes! Similar to the Iphone 6 and 6plus i guess.
But such is google and such is life
But back to the 5x, there really in not an excuse for the poor audio/sound. I cannot get over how bad and low it is, headphoned and without! I keep thinking.. wait.. is this some sort of joke or a prank or something by google!
But I have to accept facts. I think I will be returning it to be honest..
Syn Ack said:
Questions:
Why does it take forever to install ANY app?
Why is the camera so laggy? Did they really consider this as a production release?
How can I disable encryption? I really feel like the phone would open up without it.
How much thinner does the 6P feel than the 5X? I went from an S6 Edge to the 5X and the 5X feels like a thick plastic brick.
Concerns:
Super slow app install
Screen is average
Speaker quality and volume is atrocious
It's bigger than you think it is
Off screen notifications (like Moto) is nowhere near as good
Cellular antenna is lower quality than my S6
If anyone else has any questions let me know. I am seriously considering trading this in for a 6P (even though I hate huge phones) or just returning it altogether and keeping my S6.
After all of this thinking, I just wish Samsung and Google could do Google Play edition phones again. Samsung seems to get it right in the design and hardware perspective, and Google obviously gets it right with software.
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I wondering if you have a faulty phone.
1. Apps don't seem to install slow for me unless they are very large. Even then it isn't super long.
2. I haven't experienced any lag with the camera so far. The app opens pretty quickly and takes pictures as fast as I can tap the button.
3. Not sure how to disable encryption but I do know that it requires a full wipe of the phone.
4. The Nexus 5X is only 0.9mm thicker than the S6 Edge and doesn't feel thick to me at all. I actually wish it was like 10-11mm with a HUGE battery. I've never understood this obsession with super thin phones.
The screen looks great, very sharp, gets more than bright enough and colors are accurate. I would prefer an AMOLED but not too upset about it. The speaker quality and volume aren't super fantastic but far from being "atrocious". It's about what I would expect from a speaker that's tiny enough to fit in a smartphone and it's better than the Nexus 5 for sure. I haven't used the Moto display notifications enough to make a comparison but the Ambient display feature is pretty nice so far. I also haven't noticed any issues with antenna quality but I haven't been in very low reception areas yet.
And the best part about the Nexus 5X compared to the Galaxy S6 is that you don't have to put up with that god awful TouchWiz garbage. You get PURE Android instead of Samsung's bastardized excuse for "Android".
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Syn Ack said:
I agree it isn't fair to compare the design to a phone nearly twice it's price. But it is all that I have to compare to, so it was done. I wish the 6P could've came in the 5X size. I would've even paid the same price.
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I would have liked the Nexus 6P in the size of the Nexus 5X too or preferably smaller like a 5.2" screen with very slim bezels but I'd still rather have the Snapdragon 808 over the Snapdragon 810 which, even with revision 2.1 still has heating and throttling issues.
jimv1983 said:
I would have liked the Nexus 6P in the size of the Nexus 5X too or preferably smaller like a 5.2" screen with very slim bezels but I'd still rather have the Snapdragon 808 over the Snapdragon 810 which, even with revision 2.1 still has heating and throttling issues.
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All of the "bad characteristics" of the 810 are present in the 808. In fact, the 808 basically *is* an 810 with a few parts that didn't pass testing having been disabled.
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All of the "bad characteristics" of the 810 are present in the 808. In fact, the 808 basically *is* an 810 with a few parts that didn't pass testing having been disabled.
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It's my understanding that those few parts that were disabled were the same things causing the issues on the 810. On one of the threads here someone someone was talking about disabled some cores and underclocking to effectively turn the 810 into an 808 and resolve the issues the 810 is known for.
jimv1983 said:
It's my understanding that those few parts that were disabled were the same things causing the issues on the 810. On one of the threads here someone someone was talking about disabled some cores and underclocking to effectively turn the 810 into an 808 and resolve the issues the 810 is known for.
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The 810 never actually had such an issue that you could solve it like that. True it eats lots of power, makes lots of heat, and is forced to scale back to lower frequencies and *automatically shut off cores*. Until they start putting a cooling fan in phones, ALL CPUs will respond this way when they work hard and get hot. This is normal and expected behavior. The only thing with the SD810, is that it has a pack of Cortex A57's, which, regardless of who stamps them out into what SoC, are going to do the exact same thing.
But you can't SOLVE the "problem" by turning off 2 cores, since it does that *automatically* when it gets too hot.
Not that this improves matters for the 808, since those two A57's are more than enough to hit the temperature limit after a few seconds of running hard. Just that its a few *more* seconds than the 810... but the 810 gets more work done in that time.
Question: without an SD card and only internal storage, how will we be able to back up (eg Titanium Backup, Nova settings etc) without losing said backups in a data wipe when flashing roms?
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The 810 never actually had such an issue that you could solve it like that. True it eats lots of power, makes lots of heat, and is forced to scale back to lower frequencies and *automatically shut off cores*. Until they start putting a cooling fan in phones, ALL CPUs will respond this way when they work hard and get hot. This is normal and expected behavior. The only thing with the SD810, is that it has a pack of Cortex A57's, which, regardless of who stamps them out into what SoC, are going to do the exact same thing.
But you can't SOLVE the "problem" by turning off 2 cores, since it does that *automatically* when it gets too hot.
Not that this improves matters for the 808, since those two A57's are more than enough to hit the temperature limit after a few seconds of running hard. Just that its a few *more* seconds than the 810... but the 810 gets more work done in that time.
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But if you are underclocking then the CPU is less likely to get to the point where it has shut some things down. With 2 cores disabled from the start and the remaining cores under clocked it does make it better. From what I understand the 810, which gets to that point much faster, will actually become worse than the 808 once it gets to the point where it has to scale back.
Some phones are great to take camping because if you play Asphalt 8 long enough, the back warms up to the ideal temperature that can bake bread. Rate this thread to express the extent to which the Samsung Galaxy S7 stays cool under extended heavy use. A higher rating indicates that even when playing strenuous games for long periods of time, the phone doesn't get uncomfortably warm.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
what i find is that my device (S7) stays very cool under conditions that my other device (m8) would overheat. now i dont play traditional games on my smartphone but i do run chess engines against each other on all 4 cores and typically after about 10 minutes i would have to stop because my m8 would reach over 50 degrees Celsius (122 Fahrenheit). under more strenuous conditions the s7 only reached 40 degrees Celsius (104 Fahrenheit) after running for close to an hour. although the phone got physically hot which may be alarming, but i relied on an app to measure the internal temp. once i get a case for the s7 i probably wont even notice.
all in all, these results blew me away. i will try this again after i root the s7 and overclock it. but for now im very impressed.
The question here is does it throttle and how fast does it start throttling? A lot of people are complaining about the heat but really it should be hotter. The new heat pipe is supposed to disperse the heat to the frame away from the processor. Now if it is only hot where the processor is located like my s6 then that is a problem.
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I've been pleasantly surprised with how cool the device stays as well. I keep it in an Incipio DualPro (although I find myself taking it out often either for Gear VR time, or just because the damn phone is nice to look at) and tend to go on usage binges frequently. Even throwing in a little gaming here and there (mostly Clash of Clans which used to warm up the S5 pretty easily.) So far, so cool. Even wireless charging (slow or fast) seems to run cooler.
If it's throttling to keep the temperature averages lower, then it hasn't been of detrimental effect to my own usage patterns so far.
I am actually hater of Android phones, but the features provided by Samsung Galaxy S7 and edge S7 are truly amazing. actully I personally saw after charging all Android devices they get heated. But I must say this S7 and S7 Edge are not from this family. Also there are some great features like water residence technique.... etc.
does it get hot when constantly using the facebook app(Like my S6 overheats sometime when using it often due to heavy usage)? i'm buying the S7 next week
After a few days of use I can say that it does not even get warm much less hot while doing anything I normally do, including gaming and I play a wide range of games on my phone including some pretty graphical ones. The only time it has felt warm at all was when I was first downloading and trying all of my VR games, not sure why though because I played a couple hours of VR last night and it did not heat up at all, maybe it was burning in?
Both my S7 and my wife's S7 get very warm. I immediately noticed it on the first boot for both devices when the Play Store was installing all of our apps. Installing about 50 apps took over a hour. I think both of our devices are defective as they are not consistently running smoothly as well the LTE speeds are 50% slower than our previous S6 and S6 Edge. So far a factory reset has not corrected the problem for either device. That said both S7's still score very high with Antutu 128000-129000. It's all very odd.
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what i find is that my device (S7) stays very cool under conditions that my other device (m8) would overheat. now i dont play traditional games on my smartphone but i do run chess engines against each other on all 4 cores and typically after about 10 minutes i would have to stop because my m8 would reach over 50 degrees Celsius (122 Fahrenheit). under more strenuous conditions the s7 only reached 40 degrees Celsius (104 Fahrenheit) after running for close to an hour. although the phone got physically hot which may be alarming, but i relied on an app to measure the internal temp. once i get a case for the s7 i probably wont even notice.
all in all, these results blew me away. i will try this again after i root the s7 and overclock it. but for now im very impressed.
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I switched from the M8 to the S7 and my M8 never got this hot. My S7 is always getting warm and the battery life sucks. I got it 3 days ago and have yet to play a game or watch media on it and it still heats up and the battery is down in the teen % by late afternoon.
Qualcomm SD820 sucks unfortunately. Gets hot, bad battery life, ****ty DAC.
ThoreauAZ said:
I've been pleasantly surprised with how cool the device stays as well. I keep it in an Incipio DualPro (although I find myself taking it out often either for Gear VR time, or just because the damn phone is nice to look at) and tend to go on usage binges frequently. Even throwing in a little gaming here and there (mostly Clash of Clans which used to warm up the S5 pretty easily.) So far, so cool. Even wireless charging (slow or fast) seems to run cooler.
If it's throttling to keep the temperature averages lower, then it hasn't been of detrimental effect to my own usage patterns so far.
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a bit off topic.. how is that incipio case working out for you. i've been eyeing it but haven't read any feedback. is it a slick case or does it have some texture for the grip? rubbery or plastic? thanks for any help.
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a bit off topic.. how is that incipio case working out for you. i've been eyeing it but haven't read any feedback. is it a slick case or does it have some texture for the grip? rubbery or plastic? thanks for any help.
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I had the same model case for my S5 and loved it. It was bulky but was the kind of added protection I was looking for when i was out hiking or backpacking.
The version for the S7 (S7 Edge, specifically) feels more streamlined to me. Definiteky thinner materials, and because it has to keep the two long sides of the phone fairly clear due to the edge screen, it's a good bit more flexible (i can pop the phone in and out without having to first separate the two case layers.) I'd expect the non edge version for the s7 may be more in line with what I remember from my S5 days.
That said, the grip/texture is a nice balance between slick and grippy. It has a rubbery feel, but it doesn't snag on its way in and out of a pocket. Its just enough to know that it won't slip outta the hand.
Meanwhile, on the heat subject again, the s7e managed to reboot itself during a VR session and when it came back up, it seemed to have forgotten a lotta settings. Edge panels were no longer selected, double tap home yo launch camera went away, and probably 8 or so others that I noticed eventually. Easy enough to set them back, but thats the first time ive ever seen something like that on an android device. I can't say for certain that it was heat related, as it couldve rebooted due to any number of unfound software bugs, but it certainly had become fairly toasty during that session.
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I had the same model case for my S5 and loved it. It was bulky but was the kind of added protection I was looking for when i was out hiking or backpacking.
The version for the S7 (S7 Edge, specifically) feels more streamlined to me. Definiteky thinner materials, and because it has to keep the two long sides of the phone fairly clear due to the edge screen, it's a good bit more flexible (i can pop the phone in and out without having to first separate the two case layers.) I'd expect the non edge version for the s7 may be more in line with what I remember from my S5 days.
That said, the grip/texture is a nice balance between slick and grippy. It has a rubbery feel, but it doesn't snag on its way in and out of a pocket. Its just enough to know that it won't slip outta the hand.
Meanwhile, on the heat subject again, the s7e managed to reboot itself during a VR session and when it came back up, it seemed to have forgotten a lotta settings. Edge panels were no longer selected, double tap home yo launch camera went away, and probably 8 or so others that I noticed eventually. Easy enough to set them back, but thats the first time ive ever seen something like that on an android device. I can't say for certain that it was heat related, as it couldve rebooted due to any number of unfound software bugs, but it certainly had become fairly toasty during that session.
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so in other words you'd recommend this case? thanks for the info btw. very helpful.
No problems with heat or battery here. Way cooler than my s6.
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No problems with heat or battery here. Way cooler than my s6.
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jonahtriangle said:
No problems with heat or battery here. Way cooler than my s6.
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Definitely cooler than my s6 and to the person stating this phone gets hotter than his m8 did, you DEFINITELY must have a bad phone. The m8 and m9 always got very hot in my experience this phone is almost like ICE in comparison. My s6 even was cooler than either of those 2 and the s7 is even cooler than the s6. Battery life seems to be a little better than my s6 as well.
Pretty rough
I switched from my old S4 to the S7 on day one, and equipped it with all of the same accessories. I work in a kitchen, and it's often extremely hot on the line, but even in an Otter Defender my S4 would rock all day as a bluetooth music player connected to our soundbar. Ever since the switch I will get between 30-45 minutes only running DoubleTwist on BT before I get a hard reset from overheating. I've taken to leaving it in the pantry, but now I have to run off the line every time I want to change the song or the volume. As a desktop builder I understand the compromises between heat, performance, and cooling, but this seems a little sensitive.
I have g935f. Before that i had G920f and i have to say, best phone i ever had in my hands. No heating... Playing games for a few houers and no throtel no overheatin. Batthery is much bether than on S6, but i think that MM for S6 is more optimized for S6 then S7. Abouth heat, i think that the diference is in CPU. Exynus VS Snapdragon...
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Definitely cooler than my s6 and to the person stating this phone gets hotter than his m8 did, you DEFINITELY must have a bad phone. The m8 and m9 always got very hot in my experience this phone is almost like ICE in comparison. My s6 even was cooler than either of those 2 and the s7 is even cooler than the s6. Battery life seems to be a little better than my s6 as well.
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Can I just ask you. What's the average temperature your device sits at when using it? And the maximum you've gotten it up to. I need to compare mine to it as I came from a s5 which didn't really get hot. But because the s7 is new I'm also quite paranoid with the heat and need to see if I have a defected device or not. And please state wether you have exynos or sd
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I have g935f. Before that i had G920f and i have to say, best phone i ever had in my hands. No heating... Playing games for a few houers and no throtel no overheatin. Batthery is much bether than on S6, but i think that MM for S6 is more optimized for S6 then S7. Abouth heat, i think that the diference is in CPU. Exynus VS Snapdragon...
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Do you have exynos or snapdragon? I've got exynos and I experienced a average of 33 degrees Celsius, is that normal or average
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Can I just ask you. What's the average temperature your device sits at when using it? And the maximum you've gotten it up to. I need to compare mine to it as I came from a s5 which didn't really get hot. But because the s7 is new I'm also quite paranoid with the heat and need to see if I have a defected device or not. And please state wether you have exynos or sd
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Do you have exynos or snapdragon? I've got exynos and I experienced a average of 33 degrees Celsius, is that normal or average
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I don't have any temperature measuring programs on the phone, but it rarely even feels warm. It will show heat a little more than your s5 does because its glass and metal but the s7 runs cooler than my s6 and the s6 wasn't really a hot phone either IMO.
I noticed this when playing certain heavily graphical games under max graphics settings. It's distractingly uncomfortable. I then ran benchmark tests. This is the hottest running phone I've ever used! Few users notice this issue cause few users use the phone for anything other than youtube, chrome, and casual games like skyforce and dead trigger.
I think I know why. The OnePlus company was very upset when people noticed their OnePlus 2 exhibited the biggest amount of thermal throttling among its peers, so with their new OnePlus 3 they simply disabled thermal throttling and let the phone sustain the same performance over time at the expense of massive heat output. The skin temperature on the metal surface of the phone, especially at the top where the chipset is located, gets just shy of 50 C which is what causes first degree burns. Sometimes it can reach that temp and surpass it.
I saw disassembly videos of this phone and there's no design and engineering thought put into thermal dissipation, they just slapped the motherboard at the top and the battery at the bottom. Contrast this with other phones like HTC where they give thermal dissipation careful consideration by putting the motherboard in the middle, then attatching a copper layer on top of it to radiate the heat outward to the edges. Even the ZTE Axon 7 has some kind of heat pipe going through it though I don't know how effective it is.
This kinda makes sense. I've been following OnePlus 3 devs on reddit and they never once gloated about their phone's sustained performance. This is because they know the only reason it didn't throttle was cause they just let it burn your hand.
I'm truly disappointed. The only phone to date that I've seen has excellent thermal dissipation and sustained performance was the HTC One M8. It was truly the best phone ever designed for gaming. Not to mention its immersive dual front facing stereo speakers. It seems we'll never have another phone like that again.
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I noticed this when playing certain heavily graphical games under max graphics settings. It's distractingly uncomfortable. I then ran benchmark tests. This is the hottest running phone I've ever used! Few users notice this issue cause few users use the phone for anything other than youtube, chrome, and casual games like skyforce and dead trigger.
I think I know why. The OnePlus company was very upset when people noticed their OnePlus 2 exhibited the biggest amount of thermal throttling among its peers, so with their new OnePlus 3 they simply disabled thermal throttling and let the phone sustain the same performance over time at the expense of massive heat output. The skin temperature on the metal surface of the phone, especially at the top where the chipset is located, gets just shy of 50 C which is what causes first degree burns. Sometimes it can reach that temp and surpass it.
I saw disassembly videos of this phone and there's no design and engineering thought put into thermal dissipation, they just slapped the motherboard at the top and the battery at the bottom. Contrast this with other phones like HTC where they give thermal dissipation careful consideration by putting the motherboard in the middle, then attatching a copper layer on top of it to radiate the heat outward to the edges. Even the ZTE Axon 7 has some kind of heat pipe going through it though I don't know how effective it is.
This kinda makes sense. I've been following OnePlus 3 devs on reddit and they never once gloated about their phone's sustained performance. This is because they know the only reason it didn't throttle was cause they just let it burn your hand.
I'm truly disappointed. The only phone to date that I've seen has excellent thermal dissipation and sustained performance was the HTC One M8. It was truly the best phone ever designed for gaming. Not to mention its immersive dual front facing stereo speakers. It seems we'll never have another phone like that again.
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One, things depend on temperature of surrounding so if ambient temperature are low then no problems and second I know this they didn't disable thermal throttling they just raised the temperature at which it starts.
As a personal opinion my op3 never got hot(not above 40) even after extended periods of gaming (3-4 hours straight).I have other devices that can easily hit 70 but they don't fell hot due to plastic body and this phone has metal that's why it will be more hotter feeling.Have a good day or night
Sorry for my bad english
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One, things depend on temperature of surrounding so if ambient temperature are low then no problems and second I know this they didn't disable thermal throttling they just raised the temperature at which it starts.
As a personal opinion my op3 never got hot(not above 40) even after extended periods of gaming (3-4 hours straight).I have other devices that can easily hit 70 but they don't fell hot due to plastic body and this phone has metal that's why it will be more hotter feeling.Have a good day or night
Sorry for my bad english
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It's ok you're English being good
So ambient temperature here is 17 C, very cold. I also viewed youtube comparison videos from user YourTechGuide who checks the temps during benchmarks, his results were always the same: OnePlus 3 was always around 10 C degrees hotter than any phone he was comparing it with.
Also one last thing, OnePlus 3 metal surface temps is the one that reaches 50C, its internal temp (the one read by CPU-z) can surpass 70C and 80C.
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Which firmware are you currently using?
Even while charging and playing games the phone only gets slightly warm. It performs much better than any other phone I had before.
Nothing to worry about, this phone is realitive cool, keep in mind our GPU could power a Xbox 360. Expect a little heat.
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It's ok you're English being good
So ambient temperature here is 17 C, very cold. I also viewed youtube comparison videos from user YourTechGuide who checks the temps during benchmarks, his results were always the same: OnePlus 3 was always around 10 C degrees hotter than any phone he was comparing it with.
Also one last thing, OnePlus 3 metal surface temps is the one that reaches 50C, its internal temp (the one read by CPU-z) can surpass 70C and 80C.
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Strange never heating issues here but one thing who will anyone run back to back benchmarks what I am saying the test is not very realistic we don't push our devices that much for that much peroids(I also saw the video of back to back an tutu benchmarks on op3) the test is very unrealistic I think.
One more thing I could be wrong also and if someone can correct me with a reason they are welcome:laugh: