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Viiwok Deva HMD - Mobile Gaming

Hi,
My name is Dragos and I'm the founder and senior designer of Viiwok, a startup which builds VR adapters and controllers.
More specifically we're currently in the final testing rounds of the first mobile HMD in the world. It's basically a hybrid tablet adapter with integrated, discrete headtracking sensors (as in not using the tablet's gyro/accelerometer sensors).
What it does is letting you slide in any 7" tablet and wirelessly displaying stereographic 3D video feed from the computer. It's basically a mobile Oculus Rift and a future proof product as well, since we're not constrained of resolution and hardware issues - because you can always use the latest and most powerful tablet at your disposal. The headtracking has basically zero latency and the FOV is about 120 degrees, using specially designed aspheric lenses with a 2" diameter for each eye. Besides native 3D support in certain titles (Crytek titles made with Cryengine, DOOM 3 BFG, etc.), we can also use TriDef for realtime side-by-side 3D rendering of currently unsupported games.
While gaming is our main scope, the HMD could be also used for virtual tourism and landscaping, in medicine (disabled or severely handicapped persons) or CAD design. Our next project to be launched is an omnidirectional treadmill which detects your body movements in real time (walking, jumping, crouching), much like a Kinnect, but without the back-facing and latency constraints.
Right now we're using Gamepad THD and Kainy for the video feed, but also Limelight for native Shield streaming ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...505510&page=15 ) while also developing our own video streaming solution in house.
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Here are a couple of pictures with the 3D printed prototype. Of course, the final design will be much more streamlined and ergonomic.
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What is this?
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marco9797 said:
What is this?
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It's a head mounted, 3D display. You can stream games to it from the PC and see them in 3D. For virtual reality applications and games.

Attreyu said:
It's a head mounted, 3D display. You can stream games to it from the PC and see them in 3D. For virtual reality applications and games.
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Do i need a great powered PC for this? Can i find It on Amazon?
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marco9797 said:
Do i need a great powered PC for this? Can i find It on Amazon?
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You need a good wifi connection (802.11n) and a medium-to-high computer. An Nvidia Kepler GPU is fine.
Basically, if you can play your games now, you don't need a new computer for the Deva HMD.
The HMD only receives the video-feed from the computer. You need a 7" tablet with 802.11n Wifi and a nice GPU (Tegra 3, Qualcomm 600/800, etc.).

No offense friend but I wouldnt want to put that scary thing on my head.

haha :laugh: fair enough. Would you put an Oculus Rift to your head ?

Attreyu said:
You need a good wifi connection (802.11n) and a medium-to-high computer. An Nvidia Kepler GPU is fine.
Basically, if you can play your games now, you don't need a new computer for the Deva HMD.
The HMD only receives the video-feed from the computer. You need a 7" tablet with 802.11n Wifi and a nice GPU (Tegra 3, Qualcomm 600/800, etc.).
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i haven't enough money for an nvidia kepler in my notebook there is a gt 520m ;so can i try also with a tablet or smartphone?
i have a note 2 but it has mali 400 mp and i don't know if is enough great powered for this...
i and my family are going to buy an ipad air for christmas... Can i try with that?Is there any app? For the power i think that the ipad has the best gpu for the mobile,i believe also now is faster than xbox 360 and play 3.

Attreyu said:
haha :laugh: fair enough. Would you put an Oculus Rift to your head ?
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Hell no ))) I wouldnt want to put anything on my head even Google Glass which is overrated for that price tag I think. I mean if it would look like regular Sun Glasses without some thingy that looks like Universal Soldier ))) Maybe I would put it on. And as for is it Enough to have Decent Tablet? Well depends if you want to play Chilidish Android games, which have bad graphics compared to PS3 or XBOX or PC, due to the Lack of DX and OpenGL then you are all set ) but I think its better to wait till TEGRA5 Devices DX11 support full OpenGL and 6 times faster than PS3 GPU... But you have to wait till Summer 2014 and for some games that will be made for that Architecture ( So I wouldnt rush to any new Tablet right now, unless of course your budget is big enough to afford buying a newest tablet every 6 month )

I can certainly say this won't be "the first" HMD using a mobile device. I know VRase has demoed units at various conventions/conferences and has some (supposed) VR industry connections. It had a successful kickstarter, but now we are waiting on the actual commercial units. They are promising they will look better than their 3D printed prototypes (which weren't that bad).
Still, more competition in this market is good. The problem is getting content to render in SbS format (Side by Side). Especially for pre-existing mobile games, less difficult for streamed desktop stuff (easy to tell GPU how to do special render cases through injection or driver manipulation).
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ryocoon said:
I can certainly say this won't be "the first" HMD using a mobile device. I know VRase has demoed units at various conventions/conferences and has some (supposed) VR industry connections. It had a successful kickstarter, but now we are waiting on the actual commercial units. They are promising they will look better than their 3D printed prototypes (which weren't that bad).
Still, more competition in this market is good. The problem is getting content to render in SbS format (Side by Side). Especially for pre-existing mobile games, less difficult for streamed desktop stuff (easy to tell GPU how to do special render cases through injection or driver manipulation).
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I wouldn't call Vrase a HMD, they're in a totally different ballpark. Vrase is just an adapter for smartphones. They aren't intended for VR and gaming, the smartphones have screens too small for the needed FOV, and they don't have integrated sensors, meaning you must use FreePie or other 3rd party 6DOF solution. You could use Vrase for basic SBS movie watching and AR (to some extent).
I know because they're spanish, like us. They're our colleagues but they aren't aiming in the same direction. They're more orrientated towards the casual user (movies, leisure), we're going for the gaming part.
Which leads me to your second preocupations, SBS mobile gaming. AFAIK there aren't many mobile shooters worth their salt at the moment, because the cappabilities are not here. Mobile GPUs are weak still, and untill this summer when Logan makes its appearance, we're going to stick to PC streaming.
Things will change, and will change fast in this VR/mobile gaming sector, and our belief is that our product is prepared to help you fill the gap.

Attreyu said:
I wouldn't call Vrase a HMD, they're in a totally different ballpark. Vrase is just an adapter for smartphones. They aren't intended for VR and gaming, the smartphones have screens too small for the needed FOV, and they don't have integrated sensors, meaning you must use FreePie or other 3rd party 6DOF solution. You could use Vrase for basic SBS movie watching and AR (to some extent).
I know because they're spanish, like us. They're our colleagues but they aren't aiming in the same direction. They're more orrientated towards the casual user (movies, leisure), we're going for the gaming part.
Which leads me to your second preocupations, SBS mobile gaming. AFAIK there aren't many mobile shooters worth their salt at the moment, because the cappabilities are not here. Mobile GPUs are weak still, and untill this summer when Logan makes its appearance, we're going to stick to PC streaming.
Things will change, and will change fast in this VR/mobile gaming sector, and our belief is that our product is prepared to help you fill the gap.
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Okay... wait. You say that this is an HMD, but VRase isn't due to the fact you need to use a phone screen. When clearly the difference for yours appears to be (at first glance) that you use a 7" tablet. I get that you have some integrated high-precision sensors, which obviously you wouldn't have if you were using VRase. Even using a simple solution like VRase you can do similar things with that. Yes, you can watch SBS formatted movies. You could also use software to request a GPU to render 3D in SBS and then connect using Splashtop, Kainy, LimeLight, etc. You would be correct in that it wouldn't have head-tracking though (at least not without extra 3rd party sensors or using some software to forward the laggy/innaccurate sensors from the phone/tablet gyros or accelerometers). Still, both end up being Head Mounted Displays, whether they have frills or not.
I truly do wish for you to prove me wrong. If information is available for public consumption, what differentiates your product from others existing in the market? Is it basically just similar to Occulus Rift, but with a wirelessly connected screen powered by a 7 inch tablet (and thereby... upgradeable)? Do you plan to push for public availability prior to commercial release of the Rift?
I get you and agree that mobile gaming horsepower really isn't quite there yet, and the content _REALLY_ isn't there. There are maybe six or so competent shooters out there that were originally programmed for mobile (IE: not counting Quake recodes). As an aside, I do wonder if there a way to runtime modify OpenGL ES calls to force SBS rendering in such apps. I know ChainFire managed to have a Root-required piece of software that allowed for platform specific (Tegra-only, Adreno-only, etc) optimized games to run pretty well on other chipsets. However, that is neither here nor there.

ryocoon said:
Okay... wait. You say that this is an HMD, but VRase isn't due to the fact you need to use a phone screen. When clearly the difference for yours appears to be (at first glance) that you use a 7" tablet. I get that you have some integrated high-precision sensors, which obviously you wouldn't have if you were using VRase. Even using a simple solution like VRase you can do similar things with that. Yes, you can watch SBS formatted movies. You could also use software to request a GPU to render 3D in SBS and then connect using Splashtop, Kainy, LimeLight, etc. You would be correct in that it wouldn't have head-tracking though (at least not without extra 3rd party sensors or using some software to forward the laggy/innaccurate sensors from the phone/tablet gyros or accelerometers). Still, both end up being Head Mounted Displays, whether they have frills or not.
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Hey, I'm not trying to enter an argumente here with you man If you consider the two similar enough, fair play. They are, in more ways than one. The differences are subtle enough for the average user - size, scope, sensors, etc. As I said before, Vrase is for the casual user, our product would be more towards gaiming.
ryocoon said:
I truly do wish for you to prove me wrong. If information is available for public consumption, what differentiates your product from others existing in the market? Is it basically just similar to Occulus Rift, but with a wirelessly connected screen powered by a 7 inch tablet (and thereby... upgradeable)? Do you plan to push for public availability prior to commercial release of the Rift?
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You have to take into consideration that the "market" for these products is very much in its infancy. You have the Oculus Rift and then you have the others (Vrase, Durovis Dive, InfiniteEye, Viiwok Deva) which are adapters by all means. Our goal is to achieve full mobility, without that tangled mess. So there are about 4-5 products, out of which only the Rift is out (even though there isn't a commercial version yet) and the Vrase just finished its Kickstarter a couple of months ago. So there isn't much of a competetion between ourselfes. We're all just trying to push VR out in the open.
Yes, we are going to start a crowdfunding campaign this weekend, with delivery starting in April.
ryocoon said:
I get you and agree that mobile gaming horsepower really isn't quite there yet, and the content _REALLY_ isn't there. There are maybe six or so competent shooters out there that were originally programmed for mobile (IE: not counting Quake recodes). As an aside, I do wonder if there a way to runtime modify OpenGL ES calls to force SBS rendering in such apps. I know ChainFire managed to have a Root-required piece of software that allowed for platform specific (Tegra-only, Adreno-only, etc) optimized games to run pretty well on other chipsets. However, that is neither here nor there.
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I totally agree. Mobile SBS gaming isn't here now, and one can only hope for things to change this year. Maybe products like ours will help push things in that direction. Android exclusive content is made of movies and a number of tech-demos here and there (most from Durovis, using Unity engine). So we're focusing to PC titles for the moment, going the streaming way.

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Windows 8.1 USB stick Beelink Intel Pocket P2:when the size (is powerful and) matters

Only some years ago we saw the first Android USB sticks, they were just a way to put the same hardware that most of mobile phones had but without including screen or camera...
Summary? Quite cheap gadgets with lots of possibilities. The mini PCs had been created!
The best of them was that they directly came with hundreds of thousands of applications (from GooglePlay) and almost everybody knew how to use them since it was the same Android platform they were using on their smartphones.
Beelink was one of the companies from the Shenzhen area (created on 2010) who specialized their activity on home entertainment equipment. And once again, as well as many other companies started manufacturing components until the moment they had cumulated enough knowledge to be able to design and manufacture their own (full products).
But then, on the traditional path of development, Beelink has chosen one interesting partnership: Intel.
Yes, with the huge development of Android devices, some chip manufacturers like Qualcomm, or more recently Mediatek, have experimented a great growth. So in 2013 Intel presented a new strategy focused on recovering this big part of the market they were loosing. And so we started to see a very small (but growing number) of devices equipped with Intel processors.
Of course most of the manufacturers are still presenting Android-based devices, because of 2 reasons: licence price and mobile oriented platform with already a great ecosystem of apps.
However, with the arrival of Intel to the playground, it opened the gate to other operating systems like Windows. And needless to say that Microsoft was also really interested on taking some part of the mobile market.
Putting together the acquired knowledge on MiniPCs and the possibilities of an Intel processor, Beelink bring to us the Intel Pocket P2, a powerful device within the smallest possible place, just a little bigger than an USB flash drive.
Just plugging it into our TV and we will have a full PC with big screen, offering a resolution of FullHD (1920x1080) perfect not only for work since we will have available Microsoft Office and all other Windows software, but a perfect gaming station.
We all know that Windows has the biggest catalog of games.
To make all that possible this small stick has inside a Quad-core Intel Z3735F processor inside and 2GB of DDR3 RAM memory, and all the rest we may need is already included: dual WiFi b/g/n antenna, BT 4.0, 32GB of flash drive for storage and of course the infrared sensor for a remote controller. On the side we will find SD card reader, micro USB for OTG purposes, jack output for audio and HDMI for plugging the screen.
The OS included is Windows 8.1 that will surely be updated to Windows 10 as Microsoft announced recently.
So, we have a very interesting device, I never imagined such an easy way to have a real Windows PC with tiny power consumption that we can bring to anyway for less than 100€.
I leave you here some pictures and the full table of specs
CPU Intel® Bay Trail CR,Z3735F
Graphics lntel® HD Graphics
Bluetooth BT 4.0
RAM DDR3 2GB
ROM Onboard eMMC Flash 32GB
Connectivity WIFI IEEE 802.11b/g/n ; Dual 2.400 GHz ~ 2.497 GHz (2.4 GHz ISM Band) ; IR Sensor ; BT 4.0; USB2.0; OTG Port
OS Support Windows 8.1
Power LED
Power Button
DC in Jack
SD Card Slot
Power management Adapter 5V 2A
Multi -language
Keyboard Qwerty keyboard
Support original ecology and AZW custom UI
Work Environment 5°C--35°C，30%--90% Humidity
Storage Environment -20°C--60°C，10%--90% Humidity
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Thanks OP. Do you have troubles when activated Windows 8.1?
Because i heard people said they have troubles on activating the system on their Axgio mini-pc.
Got a hot deal on fatwallet: http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/hot-deals/1444331/?newest=1#last
Someone's talking about Windows 8.1 activation problem on it

Nice review. Been wondering about getting one myself.
Is it running Windows 8.1 with Bing?
I know some of these have some issues with the windows license (windows license is free for tablets <8" but this is no tablet), like the Pipo X7 (hence the more expensive Pipo X7S)

Good product though, still have some concerns about the operating experience and overheating problem caused by long time working. Is it easy to connect to the screen?

I also read a lot of user reviews that Windows wasnt activated and they also couldnt. The problem is that Windows 8.1 Bing editions is just free for tablets <8" I think. And this device is actually a desktop because having a HDMI. So youd need a normal Windows 8.1 license for it. I would buy one too but I cant find any information about the pirated Windows license or which ones have activated version on them.

mkdr said:
I also read a lot of user reviews that Windows wasnt activated and they also couldnt. The problem is that Windows 8.1 Bing editions is just free for tablets <8" I think. And this device is actually a desktop because having a HDMI. So youd need a normal Windows 8.1 license for it. I would buy one too but I cant find any information about the pirated Windows license or which ones have activated version on them.
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Iv got the Ainol,pipo x7 & the beelink pocket p1 all of them came with windows 8.1 bing fully activated NOT pirated..The pipo also comes with office 365 which alone is worth £50 but the pipo does over heat a lot

blinkone said:
Iv got the Ainol,pipo x7 & the beelink pocket p1 all of them came with windows 8.1 bing fully activated NOT pirated..The pipo also comes with office 365 which alone is worth £50 but the pipo does over heat a lot
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Ive read all kind of other reviews, people got a 30days trial and it was activated. Also, even if the Bing edition is installed and activated, it's pirated, because like I said, Bing Edition is just allowed by MS on <8" devices, and this one has not even a display, it's a desktop PC.

Have the P1
Seems pretty good. Windows 8.1 activated no problem.
Reasonably snappy, haven't got past luke warm so far.
Have it running as media server for a Squeezbox & running well.
Managed to delete or corrupt the Bluetooth driver & struggling to fine a copy online...let me know if you can help!
No support online anywhere that I can fine... no response from Beelink.
Anyone know where might find appropriate driver?

I have the beelink p1 and the p2 both came activated even after a system refresh.
But I'm not seeing the windows 10 upgrade pop up on both. I also have a linx 8 tablet also running 8.1 with bing and that's not seeing it either. Hopefully win10 will be coming to these devices.
The P1 does get a little hot after a shot time of use but runs amazingly well.
The P2 runs cool no heat cooking. But it doesn't say in the specs but comes with a built in battery.

I think i'm going to try the P2... Nice price right now.
Thanks for the info

mdabar said:
Only some years ago we saw the first Android USB sticks, they were just a way to put the same hardware that most of mobile phones had but without including screen or camera...
Summary? Quite cheap gadgets with lots of possibilities. The mini PCs had been created!
The best of them was that they directly came with hundreds of thousands of applications (from GooglePlay) and almost everybody knew how to use them since it was the same Android platform they were using on their smartphones.
Beelink was one of the companies from the Shenzhen area (created on 2010) who specialized their activity on home entertainment equipment. And once again, as well as many other companies started manufacturing components until the moment they had cumulated enough knowledge to be able to design and manufacture their own (full products).
But then, on the traditional path of development, Beelink has chosen one interesting partnership: Intel.
Yes, with the huge development of Android devices, some chip manufacturers like Qualcomm, or more recently Mediatek, have experimented a great growth. So in 2013 Intel presented a new strategy focused on recovering this big part of the market they were loosing. And so we started to see a very small (but growing number) of devices equipped with Intel processors.
Of course most of the manufacturers are still presenting Android-based devices, because of 2 reasons: licence price and mobile oriented platform with already a great ecosystem of apps.
However, with the arrival of Intel to the playground, it opened the gate to other operating systems like Windows. And needless to say that Microsoft was also really interested on taking some part of the mobile market.
Putting together the acquired knowledge on MiniPCs and the possibilities of an Intel processor, Beelink bring to us the Intel Pocket P2, a powerful device within the smallest possible place, just a little bigger than an USB flash drive.
Just plugging it into our TV and we will have a full PC with big screen, offering a resolution of FullHD (1920x1080) perfect not only for work since we will have available Microsoft Office and all other Windows software, but a perfect gaming station.
We all know that Windows has the biggest catalog of games.
To make all that possible this small stick has inside a Quad-core Intel Z3735F processor inside and 2GB of DDR3 RAM memory, and all the rest we may need is already included: dual WiFi b/g/n antenna, BT 4.0, 32GB of flash drive for storage and of course the infrared sensor for a remote controller. On the side we will find SD card reader, micro USB for OTG purposes, jack output for audio and HDMI for plugging the screen.
The OS included is Windows 8.1 that will surely be updated to Windows 10 as Microsoft announced recently.
So, we have a very interesting device, I never imagined such an easy way to have a real Windows PC with tiny power consumption that we can bring to anyway for less than 100€.
I leave you here some pictures and the full table of specs
CPU Intel® Bay Trail CR,Z3735F
Graphics lntel® HD Graphics
Bluetooth BT 4.0
RAM DDR3 2GB
ROM Onboard eMMC Flash 32GB
Connectivity WIFI IEEE 802.11b/g/n ; Dual 2.400 GHz ~ 2.497 GHz (2.4 GHz ISM Band) ; IR Sensor ; BT 4.0; USB2.0; OTG Port
OS Support Windows 8.1
Power LED
Power Button
DC in Jack
SD Card Slot
Power management Adapter 5V 2A
Multi -language
Keyboard Qwerty keyboard
Support original ecology and AZW custom UI
Work Environment 5°C--35°C，30%--90% Humidity
Storage Environment -20°C--60°C，10%--90% Humidity
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Got this unit about 2 months ago, installed Windows 10 as soon it was available and it works perfectly
Unlike the original Intel compute stick, no problems with BT devices and no noise from fan.
Using it as a HTPC with Kodi (now on 15.2) and could not be more pleased.
It also runs Asphalt 8 with zero problems (and Xbox One gamepad support), so its ideal for a simple but usable Windows PC, either for entertainment or simple workstation.
One thing that i can't found is a method to access the firmware to unlock the CPU speed (its locked at max 1.33Ghz, so turbo mode is never activated if needed), anyone got suggestions?

Mirror please,software is unreachable
Now price of stick is amazing i got one already. But i do have problems with activation and downloading stuffs from baidu ,drivers etc. Please some one to make mirrors for latest firmware ,drivers-old ways to download from baidu didn't work .This is support page i try to write to this guys ,but more than a month zero answer.This is link of there download page,if someone know how to download without Chinese applications ,please do share

armagani said:
Now price of stick is amazing i got one already. But i do have problems with activation and downloading stuffs from baidu ,drivers etc. Please some one to make mirrors for latest firmware ,drivers-old ways to download from baidu didn't work .This is support page i try to write to this guys ,but more than a month zero answer.This is link of there download page,if someone know how to download without Chinese applications ,please do share
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What are you talking about? The P2 comes with Win8.1 in English and ZERO software from 3rd parties.
You can stick a USB bootable storage device on one of the USB ports and install any OS you want from scratch...
If you choose windows 10 or even 8 the hardware is all detected and supported out of the box, plus windows update will install the latest ones. As for firmware, as far as i know there aren't any updates/backups/images... you are stuck with the UEFI that came from factory.

PIPO X9 Dual Boot Windows 10 Tablet TV BOX

I fond a new tablet tv box with window 10 dual boot,it can be used to tablet pc and tv box.I think it's very good.
Specification:
Windows10 & Android4.4 Dual OS
8.9 inch 1920 x 1200 LCD screen display
Intel Z3736F Quad Core up to 1.83GHz
2GB DDR3L RAM + 32GB ROM
Intel HD Graphics
Support Bluetooth 4.0
802.11b/g/n LAN
Built-in Speaker and Mic
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FIRST IMPRESSIONS -
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Here are my thoughts on this device. Bear in mind that I am new to this category of devices. To me this device is a TV Dongle / box that tries to be a tablet. Either that or its a tablet with Identity crisis. This is marketed as a Tablet or MiniPC. This I suppose it can do with caveats. As a TV Box, its got advantages compared to other devices in that category and some downsides as well.As a tablet, it does not do well compared to the other devices in that category. But I am getting ahead of myself.
SPECIFICATIONS -
Display - 1920*1200 full HD
CPU - Intel Atom Z3736F up to 2.16Ghz
RAM - 2GB DDR3L
Storage - 32GB or 64GB (Mine is 32 GB)
OS - Windows 10 Home and Android 4.4 dual boot
I/O ports - 1X Micro SD slot,
4X USB Type A
AV out
Audio out
RS232 optional (DB-9)
HDMI output
Network - Wifi 802.11b/g/n
Bluetooth 4.0
Power - 12V 2.4A
OVERALL IMPRESSIONS -
Being powered by Intel, usually means good things. Especially with the whole Win-tel combination dominating PC world for years. However in recent years, Intel's foray into the world of tablets has had mixed response. Those devices are great as a portable computer or Net Enabled device. However, when you consider Non-Windows tablets, the place is dominated by other SoC Manufacturers. Particularly in case of Android, there has been very little support from developer community to Intel based devices. So you are likely to see smaller collection of apps in Google Play for Intel based devices. Now, if we were to look at TV Sticks/ Mini PCs, the things go further downhill. For one, Intel has decided to exit this market. So, no wonder the response to Nexus Player based on Intel has been tapering.
Given that kind of background, we take a look at the Pipo X9. To be honest, I do feel that this device is attempting to perform different roles for different people and ends up being jack of all trades. For one, the lack of a battery pretty much kills any aspirations it has of becoming a tablet. Being permanently tied to the wall is not anyone's idea of a portability. That being said, the wedge shape also precludes being portable.
As far as ports and interfaces are concerned, we do have decent coverage. Along the right side, we have a pair of USB ports along with a Earphone jack and the speaker. That side also happens to have the power button and volume control. Along the back side, we have another pair of USB ports accompanied by the expected HDMI port and RJ-45 lan port. There's also a slot for a micro-sd card. But I won't be using that at least. That side also sports a big Wireless Antenna making for a pretty stable wireless connection. The X9, when booted, offers a choice of booting in either windows or Android with a default to whatever OS you were in last time.
WINDOWS EXPERIENCE -
Honestly, I am not a big fan of Windows touch. As a desktop OS, it has its place and uses. However, I found that accuracy of recognizing touches as being low. Being able to get to what I want efficiently is not straightforward. But let's not delve into merits of Windows.
The X9 when booted into windows 10 home, brings you to an unsecure user login. I found the navigation was similar to my other laptop with Windows 10. The fact that this is more portable than the laptop does make it easy. So if it comes to hooking up your laptop to a TV vs the X9, the X9 wins hands down. I do think it actually puts windows touch to a good use that it was meant to do, when connecting to a TV. With VLC picked up from App store, I soon had a nice movie going from network location. Sound reproduction was pretty good but albeit on the low side. However, Gearbest.com had also sent me Bluedio H+ turbine with the X9. So the sound problem was temporarily sidelined.
ANDROID EXPERIENCE -
Android side when treated as a TV Stick and not as a tablet, then you are working with right expectations. You have Android Kitkat out of box with possibility of update down the road. I won't hold my breath though. Essentially, its 8 & 1/2 inch form factor is slightly larger than that of your average TV mini-pc. You have pretty much 8 GB allocated to Android if you have 32 GB version. There's not much bloat out of box. The apps are pretty much standard plain vanilla Android. I was wondering about the Root. However, when I installed SuperSU, it informed me that its already rooted and just needs newer binaries. That updated, Root Checker confirmed that I have root. That's one less to worry about.
However, the Intel Graphic Chip offers additional up-conversion of the HDMI signal offering better hardware decoding. This shows up when you play movies at 1080p. The HDMI out does its job. Unfortunately, the device is not recognized as a CEC Device (Consumer Electronic Control). Oh well, think I am being picky.
CONCLUSION -
The Pipo X9 is a decent TV Stick with a Dual Boot of Windows 10 or Android Kitkat. The Intel Z3736F's Quad Cores offer decent performance without any lag or delay for normal web browsing or playing off of Youtube. As a TV mini-pc, the X9 offers greater flexibility of a touchscreen without having to use a remote. Its built-in speakers are good enough for the job but may appear as limited due to the form factor. Performance over Bluetooth is nice over a distance of 10 meters. HDMI performance is on par with other TV Sticks based on AMLOGIC Chipsets.

How can I connect my external HDD to USB and find out it in Android mode?
My external HDD is using NTFS format as It can share with Windows and storage files larger than 4GB (films)

You may connect it with the USB Port. But this device does not offer OTG.

Do you know how to boot this device into recovery? Or get it to boot from USB stick? I just bought one and want to make a full image backup before I start messing about with it.

djdemond said:
Do you know how to boot this device into recovery? Or get it to boot from USB stick? I just bought one and want to make a full image backup before I start messing about with it.
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You can try quick boot app on android.

Custom rom?
Does anybody know whether there a custom rom (Android 5 . ...) for these devices?
Thank you!

djdemond said:
Do you know how to boot this device into recovery? Or get it to boot from USB stick? I just bought one and want to make a full image backup before I start messing about with it.
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Just bought the X9S, but the windows installation was corrupt. Installed a new copy of Windows 10 from Microsoft. Works well but lacks a lot of drivers and can't find them!!!
Make a bootable USB and plug it in the console. Then hold in the volume up and down buttons when you switch it on. This should put you into the BIOS menu. Change the boot order to boot from USB first. USB stick needs to be plugged in or BIOS won't see it and give you the option. You also need a USB mouse/keyboard plugged in to make your selection!
You can apparently also press f7 if you have the keyboard and USB stick plugged in.
Make sure you obtain the drivers as wireless and touchscreen among other things won't work without them!
Sent from my Lenovo K3 Note using XDA Free mobile app

You can put Windows 10 Pro on an X9.
Create a bootable Windows 10 USP Stick from ISO. Plug in and start the Pipo X9. Before also plugin a mouse and a keyboard. When starting your Pipo press F11 and you will see the Bios setting.
Set your USB stick in the boot menue on first position and start again. During installation from windows you have to remove all partitions so that you have only one partion. Go on installing Windows 10 Pro.
Off course you will so loose your android partition but if you need you can install later again. Your Bootmenue from Pipo will not be lost.
For the missing drivers i used a windows software called "Driver Booster" from IOBIT. With this software i can install all the missing driver because it searched for them and installed them. I think it also works for X9S.
Good luck.

Hi. I bough a Pipo and sent it back because touch screen isuues. I got a new one with the same problem: the touch sensitivity is bad. For the ones with the same problem, I installed TouchRecalibrate.apk in android
The app isn't in the app store. I used it and I can say that it increases the touch accurancy very much. It still not perfect, but i feel a very noticeable improvement

bnateu said:
How can I connect my external HDD to USB and find out it in Android mode?
My external HDD is using NTFS format as It can share with Windows and storage files larger than 4GB (films)
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We use PIPO x9 in W10 mode to display Movies for public though HDMI 40 feet away form the PIPO, under W10 you'd instantly have access to your HD ntfs...
..our solution
---------- Post added at 12:50 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:43 PM ----------
djdemond said:
Do you know how to boot this device into recovery? Or get it to boot from USB stick? I just bought one and want to make a full image backup before I start messing about with it.
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Hi DJDmond,
....Hi just came here for the exact same wish !!!
First I know you can boot - other Android device - into Recovery mode using HOME+POWER+VOLUME DOWN press down all at the same time.
As soon as the reboot starts, you may press VOLUME UP to have the Recovery menu appears !
I'm interested in knowing if you could make any backup of your PIPO
(and possibly restore it sucessfully with any software - even more crucial)
My pipo is in use so I cannot really afford to "jam it" doing backup/restore ops.
Can you update us about that ?
Tks.
PIPO X9 user. / W10 mode

Ey guys, i removed the android partitions from windows and i am trying to extend the windows C partition. but the order of the partitions in windows dont allow me to do that.
My last option is to reinstall windows 10 completely. I am trying to get the latest version of windows 10 on there.
I have the 32 GB (not so dual boot anymore ) and the current windows partition is 20GB.
Is there a way to boot in to the USB?

thank you

Unuiga S905+ - Vensmile U1

I`ve just bought the Vensmile U1, It seems to be the same as Unuiga S905 (2gb model) under a different name, knowing that unuiga didn`t reach the crowfunding campaign.
Checking on the specs, modules are practically the same Amlogic S905 Quad Core, ARM Cortex-A53 2GB RAM, 32GB eMMC, wifi (Im not quiet sure if it`s the same module), ethernet gigabit, and bluetooth 4.0. Physically are just the same (u can google it)
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I had several problems resizing windows, finding upgrades via OTA, using a tv with 4k the audio and video were flickering, after reboot USB ports didn't worked at all. It comes with Remix OS 2.0 Installed, the 2016-04-05 version.
But (here comes the funny thing), I tried to update the box to 20160506 straight from Remixos official website jide.com/remixos/devices/unuigas905 , Unuiga S905 model. It shows me an error: "E: signature verification failed". I haven`t been able to root it.
***Edited***
After a few days, the seller sent me and .img file with the 2.0.300 remix os version... BUT It can not be upgraded as usual, so I used the USB Burning Tool for amlogic devices. After a few drawbacks it worked! Resizing windows are pretty smooth now, there are no 4k troubles, Wifi is a little weak, but it still works, plus LAN cable.
Here you are the file that the seller (vensmile) sent me to upgrade it, it is almost the same as the one on Jide website. The difference is that this one, comes with the playstore activated and kodi installed.
File from Vensmile:
https://mega.nz/#!3hQ12TyT!csp043S32K5GQM2BULfem1j6AxrcsFFHFdGyUMwtrcM
I haven't been able to root it, is there any way I can root the .img file before installing it?
i hope this information would be useful for those who want to buy it. It is definitely a great device. These are the specs of both devices:
SoC – Amlogic S905 quad core ARM Cortex-A53 @ up to 2.0GHz with penta-core Mali-450MP GPU
System Memory – 2GB RAM
Storage – micro SD slot; 32GB flash
Video Output – HDMI 2.0, AV
Audio – HDMI, AV, coaxial S/PDIF
Gigabit Ethernet
WiFi – dual band 802.11 b/g/n/ac
Bluetooth 4.1
USB – 2x USB 2.0 host ports (the USB port in the middle is one with OTG capability)
IR receiver (I havent tried this one), touch button for power on/off and standby (long pulse on boot and u r on recovery mode)
Dimensions – 11.2 x 11.2 x 2 cm
(Sorry about my english)
Greetings from Mexico!

chavez.isr said:
I`ve just bought the Vensmile U1, It seems to be the same as Unuiga S905 (2gb model) under a different name, cuz unuiga didn`t reach the crowfunding campaign.
Checking the specs, modules are practically the same Amlogic S905 Quad Core, ARM Cortex-A53 2GB RAM, 32GB eMMC, wifi (Im not quiet sure if it`s the same module), ethernet gigabit, and bluetooth 4.0. Physically are just the same (u can google it)
I had several problems resizing windows, finding upgrades via OTA, using a tv with 4k the audio and video were flickering, after reboot USB ports didn't worked at all. It has Remix OS 2.0 Installed, the 2016-04-05 version.
But (here comes the funny thing), I tried to update the box to 20160506 straight from Remixos official website jide.com/remixos/devices/unuigas905 , Unuiga S905 model. It shows me an error: "E: signature verification failed". I haven`t been able to root it.
***Edited***
After a few days, the seller sent me and .img file with the 2.0.300 remix os version... BUT It can not be upgraded as usual, so I used the USB Burning Tool for amlogic devices. After a few drawbacks it worked! Resizing windows works pretty smooth, there are no 4k troubles, Wifi is a little weak, but it still works with a LAN cable.
Here you are the file that the seller (vensmile) sent me to upgrade it, it is almost the same as the one on Jide website. The difference is that this one, comes with the playstore activated and kodi installed.
File from Vensmile:
mega.nz/#!msM0WJjT!csp043S32K5GQM2BULfem1j6AxrcsFFHFdGyUMwtrcM
I haven't been able to root it, is there any way I can root the .img file and then install it on the box?
i hope this information would be useful for those who wants to buy it. It is definitely a great device. These are the specs of both devices:
SoC – Amlogic S905 quad core ARM Cortex-A53 @ up to 2.0GHz with penta-core Mali-450MP GPU
System Memory – 2GB RAM
Storage – micro SD slot; 32GB flash
Video Output – HDMI 2.0, AV
Audio – HDMI, AV, coaxial S/PDIF
Gigabit Ethernet
WiFi – dual band 802.11 b/g/n/ac
Bluetooth 4.1
USB – 2x USB 2.0 host ports (the USB port in the middle is one with OTG capability)
IR receiver (I havent tried this one), touch button for power on/off and standby (long pulse on boot and u r on recovery mode)
Dimensions – 11.2 x 11.2 x 2 cm
(Sorry about my english)
Greetings from Mexico!
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I would like to download the file, but it's encrypted and need to enter a decryption key.

basjke said:
I would like to download the file, but it's encrypted and need to enter a decryption key.
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Hello @basjke
Thanks, I've just changed the link, u will need a Male to male USB cable.
have you find a way a to root it?

chavez.isr said:
Hello @basjke
Thanks, I've just changed the link, u will need a Male to male USB cable.
have you find a way a to root it?
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Thanks for updating the link. I haven't received my Vensmile yet, but was already taking precautions :laugh:
Are you still satisfied with the performance of the box overall, and how weak is weak Wifi?

chavez.isr said:
Hello @basjke
Thanks, I've just changed the link, u will need a Male to male USB cable.
have you find a way a to root it?
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Oh! I see, u wont regret buying it.
I bought a Micro SD U3 and downloaded all of my torrent videos there. Remix os + Adblock + frostwire + Air mouseKeyboard U will love it! It seems to be pretty stable, I use it on a LG 4k TV, and find no problems at all when playing x265 videos (u can use mx player or kodi, VLc sucks in here ).
I only use it to download TV series and movies, Netflix, HBO GO. U should try Game of thrones and Flash XD .
I havent made any pro test on the wifi signal, it has one bar less than my laptop (LOL), Pretty usual on this kind of devices i think.

Hi,
pls check this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/general/root-remix-os-pc-t3292933.
i ordered one a week ago. let me know if it works i would like to use adblock and other stuff ....
Thank for ur answer. good luck

chavez.isr said:
I`ve just bought the Vensmile U1, It seems to be the same as Unuiga S905 (2gb model) under a different name, knowing that unuiga didn`t reach the crowfunding campaign.
Checking on the specs, modules are practically the same Amlogic S905 Quad Core, ARM Cortex-A53 2GB RAM, 32GB eMMC, wifi (Im not quiet sure if it`s the same module), ethernet gigabit, and bluetooth 4.0. Physically are just the same (u can google it)
I had several problems resizing windows, finding upgrades via OTA, using a tv with 4k the audio and video were flickering, after reboot USB ports didn't worked at all. It comes with Remix OS 2.0 Installed, the 2016-04-05 version.
But (here comes the funny thing), I tried to update the box to 20160506 straight from Remixos official website jide.com/remixos/devices/unuigas905 , Unuiga S905 model. It shows me an error: "E: signature verification failed". I haven`t been able to root it.
***Edited***
After a few days, the seller sent me and .img file with the 2.0.300 remix os version... BUT It can not be upgraded as usual, so I used the USB Burning Tool for amlogic devices. After a few drawbacks it worked! Resizing windows are pretty smooth now, there are no 4k troubles, Wifi is a little weak, but it still works, plus LAN cable.
Here you are the file that the seller (vensmile) sent me to upgrade it, it is almost the same as the one on Jide website. The difference is that this one, comes with the playstore activated and kodi installed.
File from Vensmile:
https://mega.nz/#!3hQ12TyT!csp043S32K5GQM2BULfem1j6AxrcsFFHFdGyUMwtrcM
I haven't been able to root it, is there any way I can root the .img file before installing it?
i hope this information would be useful for those who want to buy it. It is definitely a great device. These are the specs of both devices:
SoC – Amlogic S905 quad core ARM Cortex-A53 @ up to 2.0GHz with penta-core Mali-450MP GPU
System Memory – 2GB RAM
Storage – micro SD slot; 32GB flash
Video Output – HDMI 2.0, AV
Audio – HDMI, AV, coaxial S/PDIF
Gigabit Ethernet
WiFi – dual band 802.11 b/g/n/ac
Bluetooth 4.1
USB – 2x USB 2.0 host ports (the USB port in the middle is one with OTG capability)
IR receiver (I havent tried this one), touch button for power on/off and standby (long pulse on boot and u r on recovery mode)
Dimensions – 11.2 x 11.2 x 2 cm
(Sorry about my english)
Greetings from Mexico!
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Hi
I have bought the new Ugoos AM1 device which also has a similar specs. It is currently running Android 5.1. Do you thing the link you sent me will work for me as well. What is the process to flash an amlogic device - can you please direct me to any step by step instructions to do this?

oki7 said:
Hi,
pls check this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/general/root-remix-os-pc-t3292933.
i ordered one a week ago. let me know if it works i would like to use adblock and other stuff ....
Thank for ur answer. good luck
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I couldnt root it it shows me an error, did u do it succesfully?

sany said:
Hi
I have bought the new Ugoos AM1 device which also has a similar specs. It is currently running Android 5.1. Do you thing the link you sent me will work for me as well. What is the process to flash an amlogic device - can you please direct me to any step by step instructions to do this?
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Hello! I dont know if it can work, u can make a full backup of your box and try to install the remix OS img file using the <USB Burning Tool for amlogic devices> ... Good luck!

I have a Beelink Mini MXIII, seems the rame hardware!

Hi friend so... I have one but when I try to put subtitles in the movie player by default... The subtitles are in a side not in the center!!N some help please

Hello, after so much I could revive my unuiga u1, I have the vergence of 2gb ram and 16gb internal storage. Install the firmware but I left without wifi and apparently without blutoot also could not find the exact firmware for my unuiga

You can upgrade for remix 3.0?

Kracoss said:
You can upgrade for remix 3.0?
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nop, sadly theres no support for this Box

I'm looking for the remote.conf.
Can someone help me?
Edit: Found it.
http://www79.zippyshare.com/v/DfRakCEk/file.html

UGOOS X4 Smart TV Box Android 11 4GB 32GB S905X4 WiFi 1000M 4K Set Top Box

UGOOS X4 Smart TV Box Android 11 4GB 32GB S905X4 WiFi 1000M 4K Set Top Box
CPU: Amlogic S905X4 Quad core ARM Cortex-A55 CPU
GPU: ARM G31 MP2 GPU
RAM:LPDDR4 Varies
ROM: eMMC Flash Varies
Android 11.0 OS
Video Output UHD 4K
2.4G/5GHz Dual Band WiFi, Bluetooth Wireless Connection
1000M LAN Ethernet RJ45
Full of Features we are used to seeing from Ugoos as shown below
Neat sweet unit made to live out of site with the added IR extension
Let's have a look:
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"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
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The Box
In the box we have:
Ports all around
Inside:
Great Features to be found:

TV Box Android 11 4GB 32GB S905X4 WIFI 1000M 4K Set Top Box
Now we can have a look at the innards of this small device.
Pop The Lid all is reveled:
Top left you can just see BT antenna well the wire leads to it.
Remove 4 screws out with the PCB
Top Side: RTC Battery:
Underside: lots of small stuff.
Ports all around:
HDMI: RTC plug:
Ethernet and SPDIF
USB C 5v Input Volts: AV out: IR extension Port:
Internal IR Pickup: TF/SD card slot: USB 2 and USB 3 Port:

Bit of a look at the UI and what it has to offer:
Like Most Ugoos Media Players they are very good with the extra Features in Android settings.
Also the X4PRO can be easily paired with the BLUETOOTH Remote found on the AM7
My self I prefer the Logitech k400 series always have and will.
Ugoos X4pro fired up very easy, logged in quickly to WIFI or Ethernet:
Also Log into Google all good installed a few testers and away we went.
X4pro does appear to Zippy and moves along nicely
You will see lots of extra goodies to be found in settings.
Lots have been said already about the 905x4 CPU in general looking around the Interweb some good others not so
Like all things new or different can take time to get it 100% some manufactures just do it a lot better than others.
Lets have a look around at what it has to offer:
Some of the following test may seem a bit out of sorts due to Android 11:
Test shown are just to give an Idea and your finding may be different.
First Boot: UI and Stuff
Installed Apps:
Screen record feature:
All upto date:
Settings

WIFI and Ethernet:
CPU-Z
Speedtest:
Aida64:

o-I-c said:
TV Box Android 11 4GB 32GB S905X4 WIFI 1000M 4K Set Top Box
Now we can have a look at the innards of this small device.
Pop The Lid all is reveled:
Top left you can just see BT antenna well the wire leads to it.
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Anyone noticed an issue with this x4 pro where videos crash/exit after a while in kodi? Tried with Kodi 18.9 and 19.3 with the same result. Box heats up during benchmarks to 85c or more.

It not work well with google assistant and cast to youtube need Link with TV Code

Hi,
I know it's not the appropriate forum.
I got yesterday the UT8 Pro.
Since it uses Android 11 to.
I got a problem, I can't install a well-known VPN app from Playstore or APK mirror.
Other apps work well.
The VPN is installed, if I launch it a black screen opens with VPN logo and it crashes.
Contacted VPN developer and Ugoos Support.
Just wondering, any idea?
* Maybe a specific Topic for the Ugoos UT 8 could be opened?

Duvel999 said:
Hi,
I know it's not the appropriate forum.
I got yesterday the UT8 Pro.
Since it uses Android 11 to.
I got a problem, I can't install a well-known VPN app from Playstore or APK mirror.
Other apps work well.
The VPN is installed, if I launch it a black screen opens with VPN logo and it crashes.
Contacted VPN developer and Ugoos Support.
Just wondering, any idea?
* Maybe a specific Topic for the Ugoos UT 8 could be opened?
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I'm trying to contact to Ugoos support but really not seems to be good. I've got problem with MDM app for remote device management and after two weeks they have only answered me once and it was nonsense. In my case, when granted app with device owner permission, after first reboot, it never boots again.
I contacted from ugoos website chat, [email protected] and directly with some guys from skype (in the web you can get skype IDs)

Hi ppalacios,
I encounter many problems with this brand new box.
Apps installing on my box is a mess.
Streaming also.
It's all settings, permissions, wrong screen resolution related.
Have daily contact with Ugoos support in China.
There's a small 2 mb update v 1.0.3, that can't be installed in my case.
I asked for a full firmware update .zip.
Like on the old blogs.
They are working in a solution / update.
Say its Magisk / Root related.
Maybe my box is bad flashed, but it ain't working flawlessly.
I hope on a good solution.
Had contact with the reseller from Ali Express, who's contacted Ugoos China also.
Otherwise I get my money back or a replacement.

Just bought it few days ago.
Beside the stock ROM, is there any ATV ROM for this device?

chrno1209 said:
Just bought it few days ago.
Beside the stock ROM, is there any ATV ROM for this device?
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Don't know, you got a UT 8 pro also?
Can you test for me... If you're willing to.
If you're able to install successfully a Nord VPN trial account .. ( Playstore) free for 7 days on it?
And get it working?

My X4 Plus arrived yesterday. First impressions what a tidy little thing not much bigger than a packet of fags. BUT it seems to me that they have just stuck the peripherals on it in any old fashion. HDMI only out of one side and power input out of the opposing side, bit like the NVIDIA Cylinder - stupid design. Ethernet and ariel on the rear and USB slots on the front. An infra red plug in is also seperate and I had to use a short USB extention lead for my wireless mouse dongle because there was too much interference when plugged directly into the box itself. So now that sweet tidy little thing looks like a drunken octopus, very untidy indeed.
If this is the price to pay for making their box smaller and better looking then they are defeating the object and I personally am not impressed with it at all. Whats wrong with the basic design thats been used for years. Why add an external infra red just to make it smaller - but more clutter. I dont get it.
It did 2 ota updates in no time after powering up. Activating root from within settings was no big deal but I had to sideload latest Magisk to get it to work before I got proper root. Mouse pointer keeps disappearing which is just not acceptable. Contacted their support about it earlier on today and waiting for a reply.
Its a good box but well overpriced. There are boxes out there with same spec for half the price and its just a shame that I did not buy it in the UK. If I had then it would definitely go back.
All of that so called extra bling in the settings is just not worth it and the best that I can muster is a 7/10. The poor design certainly knocks the score down somewhat.

chadandchew said:
My X4 Plus arrived yesterday. First impressions what a tidy little thing not much bigger than a packet of fags. BUT it seems to me that they have just stuck the peripherals on it in any old fashion. HDMI only out of one side and power input out of the opposing side, bit like the NVIDIA Cylinder - stupid design. Ethernet and ariel on the rear and USB slots on the front. An infra red plug in is also seperate and I had to use a short USB extention lead for my wireless mouse dongle because there was too much interference when plugged directly into the box itself. So now that sweet tidy little thing looks like a drunken octopus, very untidy indeed.
If this is the price to pay for making their box smaller and better looking then they are defeating the object and I personally am not impressed with it at all. Whats wrong with the basic design thats been used for years. Why add an external infra red just to make it smaller - but more clutter. I dont get it.
It did 2 ota updates in no time after powering up. Activating root from within settings was no big deal but I had to sideload latest Magisk to get it to work before I got proper root. Mouse pointer keeps disappearing which is just not acceptable. Contacted their support about it earlier on today and waiting for a reply.
Its a good box dont get me wrong but well overpriced. There are boxes out there with same spec for half the price and its just a shame that I did not buy it in the UK. If I had then it would definitely go back.
Is all of that extra bling in the settings worth the extra buck. The best that I can muster is a 7/10. The poor design certainly knocks the score down somewhat.
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chrno1209 said:
Just bought it few days ago.
Beside the stock ROM, is there any ATV ROM for this device?
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If you still have the box slimbox does a custom rom for it. Work great on all my boxes including X4Q Pro and Plus