Hi everyone,
I currently have the 2013 Nexus 5, and am looking to replace it as the battery is dying.
I have a budget of £250 max, but would like to spend less.
the 32GB, 4GB - ram ZE551ML is now down to £178.95 at Simply Electronics
http://www.simplyelectronics.net/mainproduct.php?pid=27003&sd=specs
but I have a few questions:
1. Which version of Android is it currently on (officially, eg. without flashing) and do you think it will see 6.0 if it hasnt already got it?
2. Is most/all of the bloatware it comes with uninstallable?
3. Would you still buy it/ are you still happy with your ZenFone 2?
4. Whats the build quality like? and common problems?
thanks a lot
CarsnGadgets said:
Hi everyone,
I currently have the 2013 Nexus 5, and am looking to replace it as the battery is dying.
I have a budget of £250 max, but would like to spend less.
the 32GB, 4GB - ram ZE551ML is now down to £178.95 at Simply Electronics
http://www.simplyelectronics.net/mainproduct.php?pid=27003&sd=specs
but I have a few questions:
1. Which version of Android is it currently on (officially, eg. without flashing) and do you think it will see 6.0 if it hasnt already got it?
2. Is most/all of the bloatware it comes with uninstallable?
3. Would you still buy it/ are you still happy with your ZenFone 2?
4. Whats the build quality like? and common problems?
thanks a lot
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1. Lollipop 5.0, and yes its confirmed we are getting official Marshmallow 6.0.
2. Almost all except the ASUS apps and Clean Master.
3. Yup, typing from it and have to say 6 months in and still a happy camper
4. Build quality is pretty solid but my unit's back cover creaks a bit at times. Some common problems I've noticed are:
(i) Gorilla Glass 3 is prone to scratches on some units.
(ii) The screen goes unresponsive.
(iii) The loudspeaker just dies apparently.
(iv) The rear Camera lens is prone to scratches.
Thats pretty much it. Hope this helped!
Another happy 6 months Zenfone 2 owner. I have had no problems with it at all.
I was looking at the 32gb version when I was considering buying my Zenfone, but with the price difference between it and the higher spec 64gb version being under £30 at the time, I bought the 64gb version.
6 minths for me too and still happy with my purchase. 4gb/64gb version.
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Same here! Work like a charm.
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Don't do it. I considered upgrading from the zenfone 2 to a nexus 5
MMS has issues and ASUS support is horrible.
8 months in and I'm extremely satisfied. You won't regret it.
I came from a nexus 5 and couldn't be happier. On the nexus 5 I used my own custom build of cm12 and talked nicely. I believe the zenfone runs circles around the nexus 5.
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Camera is struggling at dark and night and low light conditions, Bluetooth pairing gives me hard time with my Ford Figo. otherwise extremely happy with phone, super smooth , fast charging, loud speaker etc... good phone for a little money you will pay.
I come from the Nexus 4, the build quality is good but not as great but then again the N4 was all glass while the N5 is mostly plastic like the ZF2.
Power-wise this phone is a beast, I have never ever had to close anything due to low RAM.
The only real problem with this phone is software, its stuck in 5.0 not even 5.1 and ROM support is nowhere near Nexus levels so don't expect to be able to choose from a number of projects. Again if you don't care about custom ROMs no problem, but if you're really into that like a lot of us Nexus users are then you're not gonna like this phone.
My hope is that a stable CM13 will change this and we will have other ROMs based off it as well, but then again I had this phone almost since launch and the waiting sucks.
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The only real problem with this phone is software, its stuck in 5.0 not even 5.1 and ROM support is nowhere near Nexus levels so don't expect to be able to choose from a number of projects. Again if you don't care about custom ROMs no problem, but if you're really into that like a lot of us Nexus users are then you're not gonna like this phone.
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I suppose compared to nexuses there aren't as many ROMs, but there are still plenty of them available, including an AOSP ROM, which I can personally vouch for.
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I suppose compared to nexuses there aren't as many ROMs, but there are still plenty of them available, including an AOSP ROM, which I can personally vouch for.
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Yes there are a lot of ROMs available, I see a few people complaint about the battery life, however mine been great, just install cm13, running great so far
i came from the red/orange google play store nexus 5, the zenfone has better battery life and is much snappier. signal i think might be a tiny bit lower than the nex5 but then again cant confirm that since i dont drop calls or anything like that.
camera is better than the nex5 but then again the nex 5 camera is horrible so thats not saying much, the earpiece call quality and volume is great, but the speakerphone isnt as loud as i would like.
if i could do it over i would still do it. i have been nothing but satisfied with the phone. and if i could change anything about the phone it would only be that it didnt have hardware buttons on the bottom and that they were software buttons instead.
also i should mention im using the cheaper varient of the zenfone "1.8ghz 2gb ram" and its better than the nex5 in every aspect.
I also moved from the N5 to Z2 and I much prefer the Z2 now. When I first got it, I was ratty with the amount of bloat. The latest cm13 nightly is pure bliss to use and I have no worries running it daily, considering I work 'on standby' and need to be able to receive phone calls at pretty much anytime first time.
I'm in the same situation but contemplating the LG G3, especially because the camera in the ZF2 doesn't seem to be as good and doesnt have OIS.
Also the size (G3 is slightly smaller and lighter), better screen, infrared (it could be very useful for me, I travel a lot and wouldn't have to deal with crappy dirty remotes anywhere).
Let's wait and see, my nexus 5 will be back from the hospital tomorrow (dead or alive, I still don't know).
ps.: Oh, and removable battery!
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I also moved from the N5 to Z2 and I much prefer the Z2 now. When I first got it, I was ratty with the amount of bloat. The latest cm13 nightly is pure bliss to use and I have no worries running it daily, considering I work 'on standby' and need to be able to receive phone calls at pretty much anytime first time.
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Really? I have been having some first world problems with CM13. The most obvious being it cannot run .gifv and .webm in my browser. Can you confirm or deny this?
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Hi, I'm thinking of upgrading my Nexus 4 to LG G3.
I dont want to spend a lot of cash on cell phones, so considering the prices being reduced, is G3 still a good option? The phones looks absolutely amazing.
the G3 is definitely a very good option especially with the really high quality case with the cover that you can usually get bundled with it. Overall very good phone and I highly recommend it.
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Not to mention it's one of the cheapest flagships available, and the camera is great. I bought a Nexus 6, but returned it 24 hours later, there are simply too many features that I immediately knew I would miss on my G3, and the G3 screen was light years better.
Love my G3 had it for a few days now and its great plus when more roms dtart to come out i feel itll be perfect ??
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Great phone. Get a spare battery and never worry about battery life!
Just picked up the G3 on AT&T a few days ago after dropping and destroying my Nexus 4. So far its been great. Definitely an upgrade in the screen, camera, and battery department. The battery has been amazing so far plus I picked up a spare battery kit so now I'm never plugged into the wall...something I was used to doing on a daily basis with my N4. My only dilemna with this phone is that it's a carrier branded phone and not stock android. Luckily it's rootable thanks to some awesome devs so removing AT&T bloat is not an issue. As for not being stock android, LG's skin is pretty light with some added features that I actual welcome. A few features that have stood out to me so far are the ability to hide the nav buttons on a per app basis(thanks LG), the unintrusive popup for incoming calls, and doubletap2wake and sleep. Coming from someone in the same situation I would say do it.
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Hi, I'm thinking of upgrading my Nexus 4 to LG G3.
I dont want to spend a lot of cash on cell phones, so considering the prices being reduced, is G3 still a good option? The phones looks absolutely amazing.
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I did the move and its destroys the n4 in every aspect....
However i am very unsatisfied with lgui being very laggy battery isnt the best of all either camera is actually pretty good speakers are fair also but if i could i would go with the htc one m8 in a heartbeat ! Better looking phone better software better speaker etc...
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Absolutely a great buy! I love mine! I recommend it to anyone looking for a skinned Android. The hardware is great in every way. The screen it top quality, the battery is good, the camera is really good, one of the phones with the most RAM, a up to date processor, and really good build quality considering it is plastic. The only one single hardware issue I have with it is the speaker being on the back. Don't get me wrong, it is a really good speaker. But with the speaker being on the back instead of the bottom or front, it can easily get muffled when laying on it's back. Specifically when it i laying on it's back on a soft surface like a bed. But like I said its still a really good speaker for a back speaker. It is just a very well rounded phone.
Amazing battery life, superb laser focus camera, 2k display consistent dev support. Need I say more?
I had samsung s4 s5 sony z2 and z3 and nexus 5 and htc m8 and iphone 6 for me g3 was the best ..camera very good and the screen awesome and the battery not bad it gives me 5 hours sot.. I didnt try n6 so i cant tell you which one is better
Short answer: Yes
Longer yes: Yes, after dealing with the Nokia Lumia 930, 5 or 6 (now I can't remember) defective Xperia Z2, I'm now on the G3. Very good phone. Battery life FAR Superior than the Lumia, and just right below the Z2. Considering it's handling a larger screen and a higher pixel screen, I'd say it's awesome. I am a light user with about 1-2 hours of SOT a day and I go home with 65-70% every day. So it can get me through a day SOOOOO easily! Highly recommended. Camera is great, I have the 32GB/3GB version and I don't have lags. But as I mentioned before, I'm a light user. I only use my phone for pictures, bittorrent sync (folders between desktops and such), and messaging (Line, Whatsapp, Email, Forums). That's it. I know, the device is overkill for my usage, but still! I'm very happy . I'd recommend it over any other phone. The only device I could possibly recommend more is the Nexus 6 or the Note 4. I don't like Samsung's cartoony UI. And the N6 is REALLY expensive! It's 700 euros while the G3 was 450 euros when I got it. So, I can't complain!
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I had samsung s4 s5 sony z2 and z3 and nexus 5 and htc m8 and iphone 6 for me g3 was the best ..camera very good and the screen awesome and the battery not bad it gives me 5 hours sot.. I didnt try n6 so i cant tell you which one is better
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Do you own a mobile shop ? Well i think giving one phone out of all the above mentioned, wont make much of a difference to u ..
Does 32 gb make a difference compared to the 16gb, keeping in mind the extra 1gb ram in 32 gb version? Also the quick circle case - is this a must have accessory for G3?
Yeah!! I just bought my g3 two weeks ago, i had a oneplus before i purchased this. It feels similar to the 1+ but with the g3 the screen is better, it has a removable battery, micro sd slot and its cheap compared to some of the other flagships. Id recommend getting it
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Does 32 gb make a difference compared to the 16gb, keeping in mind the extra 1gb ram in 32 gb version? Also the quick circle case - is this a must have accessory for G3?
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In the benchmarks the difference is very tiny. My mate has a 16gb version with 2gb and compared to my 32gb, and when youre actually using the phones side by side the different isnt even noticeable. The 16gb is also at least £30 cheaper here in the uk.
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The phone is awesome! It's as powerful (and beautiful) as phones much more expensive than this. It's a shame that AOSP is not well supported yet, but the power and performance of AOSP can be acheived on LG's own rom if you know how to tweak android, both in performance and looks.
This is the best phone ever and I came from Nexus 5
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In the benchmarks the difference is very tiny. My mate has a 16gb version with 2gb and compared to my 32gb, and when youre actually using the phones side by side the different isnt even noticeable. The 16gb is also at least £30 cheaper here in the uk.
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I believe the biggest difference is when you multitask - redraws on the screen, how many apps can be left open without having to hibernate them (the system of course), wtc.
Regardless, I believe 3GB ram will future-proof it as much as possible. It has a good camera, 3GB of RAM in my version, as well as a nice screen. I think it will be a relevant phone for at least a year or two. But as with everything in the tech world... These things get outdated rather quickly.
If you're worried about buying a device that would last you for years and years (with updates I mean), maybe the Nexus 6 would be best as it will be covered for a WHILE by Google. It's absolutely the most advanced HW (processor, memory, screen) so it will be updated for a while!
If you want a G3 now, get it right now. Thanks to the open sourcing efforts of someone, LG's likely to close down the bootloader exploit in the next couple of days.
Unless you like your freedom restricted, in which case, buy a G3 whenever you want.
A very good buy the only phone in my opinion would be the note 4 to actually consider, with that said it also is the easiest root and boot right now with great support from the developers, hands down top three phone until next summer when we'll be asking each other the same question.
The upgrade from the Nexus 4 to the G3 is worth it in every way. I've had my G3 for several months now and it is a great phone.
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Yes I would definitely recommend this phone for a number of reasons:
Overall screen size
Highest % of front face used by screen
4K display
Battery life (I dont do gaming)
Cannot recommend more highly
However, at the end of the day each phone has its advantages and plus points and drawbacks and you need to align your requirements with these stregnths.
I am sitting here wondering if I should upgrade from the 1+1 to the rumored 128GB ZF2 when it releases.
Couple of questions though,
How is using a 128GB SDXC in the phone to those that use one?
Is the camera really THAT bad?
While I know that the bootloader is currently locked and nothing in the pipeline, so far, to show that it is going to even get CM when it does release. What is the stock rom like sans ASUS apps?
Given the history of ASUS flash in the Transformer models and the Nexus, does it seem like this one is going to have similar issues or have they solved that too with this phone?
Did anyone actually come from a 1+1 by chance? What are you thoughts in comparison to it and the ZF2.
Cheers
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I am sitting here wondering if I should upgrade from the 1+1 to the rumored 128GB ZF2 when it releases.
Couple of questions though,
How is using a 128GB SDXC in the phone to those that use one?
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I have a 32GB mSD in my ZF2 and it works fine. What issues are you concerned about? Mine is currently full of music and no problems.
pyrocide said:
Is the camera really THAT bad?
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Camera works fine. It's better than the camera I have on the OPO when I first got that phone. I prefer the camera on the ZF2 at the moment for auto shots than my OPO with ColorOS and tweaks.
pyrocide said:
While I know that the bootloader is currently locked and nothing in the pipeline, so far, to show that it is going to even get CM when it does release. What is the stock rom like sans ASUS apps?
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I think the stock Asus apps are a decent alternative if you want to stay away from Google apps for the most part. They do however seem redundant if you do use Google apps and services to some degree. There are some apps that are useless for the most part and should be uninstalled or disabled. I'm on a pre-rooted image and have some disabled but not all of them and my ram usage and performance are fine. Typically about 1GB of ram usage maybe 1.5GB. That's with over half still enabled and installed.
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Given the history of ASUS flash in the Transformer models and the Nexus, does it seem like this one is going to have similar issues or have they solved that too with this phone?
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I'm not sure what you're talking about. All companies have horrible track records in my experience to a degree. Some are just better than others at this stretch of time or are new. No clue how Asus tablet/laptop will translate into phones. This will likely be the most popular mobile device they have ever had imo.
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Did anyone actually come from a 1+1 by chance? What are you thoughts in comparison to it and the ZF2.
Cheers
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I own two OPO 64GB SS Blacks and a ZE551ML 64GB/4GB ZF2. OPO's are running CM12.1 nightlies and the other is on CM12S. My ZF2 is faster than my OPO phones on WiFi and installing in general. Data rates on TMO and ATT MVNO's (Cricket/Net10/TMO) also bench faster than the OPO's in my area. Gaming is another area where it just demolishes everything. I've put it up against multiple G3's a Nexus 4/5 (own a 4 still) an S6 Edge. If you do any sort of gaming on a mobile device this appears to be the cream of the crop so far. I'm still playing around with a bunch of emulators that folks have mentioned here on the forums. That seems to be hit or miss atm but should improve since most of it is ARM.
I was specially talking about the 128GB micro sdxc card in the slot. Any performance degradation?
I hated ColorOS and wasn't to fond of the progress that CM11s was making with the issues it had like battery drain and WiFi issues. I put CM11 then 12 and hadn't had any problems. Got any photos you can share using opo and zf2 in comparison?
I like slim ROMs. Minimal crapware installed and least amount of apps running and prefer Google apps over proprietary. Id be interested in seeing performance difference, especially battery, from fat stock to slim stock.
IIRC, the reason i didn't buy one, the flash storage on the android transformer was riddled with issues and slowed down drastically after prolonged use. I just hope its not the same here.
I game, a lot, on the OPO. Many are emulators too, epsxe specifically (FF7 & 9). Reason I bought it was for the ram and gaming benchmarks as well as the price was just crazy for the specs. I unfortunately got the yellow band on mine and since OPO support that is nonexistent, it kind of left a bad taste and steering me away from the OP2.
I really like the specs but it had been my experience that the stock ROMs that come on any phone that I have owned all sucked and had to be flashed to become worth its weight.
I am running a 128 gb sd without any problems
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I was specially talking about the 128GB micro sdxc card in the slot. Any performance degradation?
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Ok, I misunderstood then. I don't have a 128GB mSD to try just 32GB or under laying around my house.
pyrocide said:
I hated ColorOS and wasn't to fond of the progress that CM11s was making with the issues it had like battery drain and WiFi issues. I put CM11 then 12 and hadn't had any problems. Got any photos you can share using opo and zf2 in comparison?
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I tried ColorOS briefly but couldn't stick with it. I did however use the ColorOS Camera port to the OPO which seemed to improve things to a degree with the camera. Sorry I wasn't more specific.
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I like slim ROMs. Minimal crapware installed and least amount of apps running and prefer Google apps over proprietary. Id be interested in seeing performance difference, especially battery, from fat stock to slim stock.
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I generally lean towards ROMs like you describe. Nexus 4 favorite was Dirty Unicorns or SlimKat with Franco or some other kernel (boeffla? can't recall). I still prefer them to any Lollipop base I've run across. It might change in the future who knows.
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IIRC, the reason i didn't buy one, the flash storage on the android transformer was riddled with issues and slowed down drastically after prolonged use. I just hope its not the same here.
I game, a lot, on the OPO. Many are emulators too, epsxe specifically (FF7 & 9). Reason I bought it was for the ram and gaming benchmarks as well as the price was just crazy for the specs. I unfortunately got the yellow band on mine and since OPO support that is nonexistent, it kind of left a bad taste and steering me away from the OP2.
I really like the specs but it had been my experience that the stock ROMs that come on any phone that I have owned all sucked and had to be flashed to become worth its weight.
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I don't have prior experience with Asus products besides motherboards and other products for desktop PC or routers specifically. Routers like the N56U and 66U were one of the best routers you could have (I own multiple). Gaming is top notch on this phone. I'm not kidding when I say this thing handles better than even the most expensive Samsungs out today. Agree with you on stock experiences. This phone has pre-rooted images you can flash. Uninstall or disable anything you want. Custom ROM wise it won't be as fast as other communities because like the OPO which shares hardware with the G3 and many others there just isn't the like here. It would also help if Asus gets the sources out and makes sure we're unlocked .
Short response... If you are going for a OPO, you're going for a device that is over an year old! On the contrary Zenfone was released just a few months back.
There are many things you lose by purchasing an older device, which I am sure you have common sense to understand.
I switched from OPO mainly because I had the digitizer issues with touchscreen and OPO had tendency to heat up and throttle a lot and the heat would exacerbate the touch response issues.
If you're happy with your OPO and have no issues with it, why not wait to see what's released in fall with new Nexus phones before upgrading?
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Short response... If you are going for a OPO, you're going for a device that is over an year old! On the contrary Zenfone was released just a few months back.
There are many things you lose by purchasing an older device, which I am sure you have common sense to understand.
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I already have the OPO
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I already have the OPO
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If you play mobile games or emulators then there would be an improvement over the OPO. If you don't then I would wait it out and see what gets released by this fall. It definitely games better than my OPO. G3 would be a sidegrade/upgrade even though it's near identical to an OPO. Screen is better has mSD support looks better and the camera is nice. I've seen plenty of nused G3's in the 300 range.
Hey all. I'm on verizon. currently own a iphone 6 plus. the phone is ok but i HATE HATE HATE how it only has 1 gb of ram and that when i multitask, it has to reopen and or refresh apps all the time. i cant have more than 2 tabs in safari without one of them having to refresh. same with apps that i just opened. i hate it.
late last year, i did own a nexus 5 before the iphone 6 plus. i was on straight talk with but ATT where i live is HORRIBLE so just went back on my families family plan. being that the nexus 5 does not work on verizon i sold it and got the iphone 6 plus. i would have went with the nexus 6 but was not out until a month after the 6.
anyway, i can't decided if i should go nexus 6 or LG G4. my bud has a nexus 6 and he let me mess without for a while yesterday and i really like it. just like the nexus 5. love stock android. love having bootloader unlocked and root and having system images to the latest version of android. he was running liquid smooth rom (5.1.1) and it was really fast and nice. the only thing i dont really like about it is that the phone is a little wider than my iphone 6 plus and that phone is already wide to begin with. i know these phones are not really meant for one hand use but i want to at least be able to reply to a text message with one hand. so not sure about that part. also worried about the battery life with it. dont like that i can't get 64 gig version on verizon. also no micro sd slot and being that im a tech nerd. i HATE buying older tech products. nexus has been out for about 6 months or more know, it does have a 805 chip while the G4 has the 6 core 808 chip and much better camera. but going with the G4, i get a plastic phone, probably wont see its bootloader ever unlocked. and i hate skinned android. How long did it take for the verizon LG G3 to get root? as long as i have root so i can uninstall bloat apps ill be fine. plus i like how the G4 is closer to the same size as the 6 plus i have rather than the huge 6" size the nexus 6 is.
TLR
have a 6 plus. hate that it has 1gb ram and has to reload every app when multitasking. cant decided if i should go with the 6 month old nexus 6, or get the LG G4. i want root, good battery life, fast performance, good camera,
Valkyrie743 said:
Hey all. I'm on verizon. currently own a iphone 6 plus. the phone is ok but i HATE HATE HATE how it only has 1 gb of ram and that when i multitask, it has to reopen and or refresh apps all the time. i cant have more than 2 tabs in safari without one of them having to refresh. same with apps that i just opened. i hate it.
late last year, i did own a nexus 5 before the iphone 6 plus. i was on straight talk with but ATT where i live is HORRIBLE so just went back on my families family plan. being that the nexus 5 does not work on verizon i sold it and got the iphone 6 plus. i would have went with the nexus 6 but was not out until a month after the 6.
anyway, i can't decided if i should go nexus 6 or LG G4. my bud has a nexus 6 and he let me mess without for a while yesterday and i really like it. just like the nexus 5. love stock android. love having bootloader unlocked and root and having system images to the latest version of android. he was running liquid smooth rom (5.1.1) and it was really fast and nice. the only thing i dont really like about it is that the phone is a little wider than my iphone 6 plus and that phone is already wide to begin with. i know these phones are not really meant for one hand use but i want to at least be able to reply to a text message with one hand. so not sure about that part. also worried about the battery life with it. dont like that i can't get 64 gig version on verizon. also no micro sd slot and being that im a tech nerd. i HATE buying older tech products. nexus has been out for about 6 months or more know, it does have a 805 chip while the G4 has the 6 core 808 chip and much better camera. but going with the G4, i get a plastic phone, probably wont see its bootloader ever unlocked. and i hate skinned android. How long did it take for the verizon LG G3 to get root? as long as i have root so i can uninstall bloat apps ill be fine. plus i like how the G4 is closer to the same size as the 6 plus i have rather than the huge 6" size the nexus 6 is.
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have a 6 plus. hate that it has 1gb ram and has to reload every app when multitasking. cant decided if i should go with the 6 month old nexus 6, or get the LG G4. i want root, good battery life, fast performance, good camera,
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I was in the same boat, I got the G4
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Dennisg34 said:
I was in the same boat, I got the G4
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how do you like it? hows the battery life? the feel of the phone? is it old samsung plastic feel or is it a decent thick plastic feel? (know that sounds weird but some plastic phones feel like cheap while others feel fine) how is the multitasking? does it have the memory leak issue like the S6 has? example in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUw9PUlFUF0&feature=youtu.be
i wish it had 5.1.1, which fixed all the memory leaks
Valkyrie743 said:
how do you like it? hows the battery life? the feel of the phone? is it old samsung plastic feel or is it a decent thick plastic feel? (know that sounds weird but some plastic phones feel like cheap while others feel fine) how is the multitasking? does it have the memory leak issue like the S6 has? example in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUw9PUlFUF0&feature=youtu.be
i wish it had 5.1.1, which fixed all the memory leaks
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I can let ya know tomorrow! That's when it comes in
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I got my G4 last Thursday, and I love it. I like the same things most people are liking...but if youre trying to decide Ill tell you this: once you experience knock-on/knock-off you wont want another phone without it Mine is leather backed, and its comfortable.
The leather version G4 is going to be one of the nicest looking phone you ever had. (ironically the plastic version looks the poorest/most normal among all the flagship smartphones out there imo)
But not too sure about the durability of the leather though.
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The leather version G4 is going to be one of the nicest looking phone you ever had. (ironically the plastic version looks the poorest/most normal among all the flagship smartphones out there imo)
But not too sure about the durability of the leather though.
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the black leather version looks nice but im not really a fan of the itching down the middle tomorrow im going to call my local verizon store and see if they have any working display units before the street date so i can play with it and see how it is. hopefully they have one on display before this Thursdays release. i have tomorrow.
I get mine Tuesday, I loved my g3 then switched to the nexus 6 when I got my upgrade, wasn't a fan of the s6 edge. The nexus 6 is a very solid phone, I have mine rooted with aosip rom from droyd running zen kernel. Battery has been amazing using this combination, speed is silky smooth, and volume is loud! I love a loud speaker that's why I'm going to try the g4. The g3 with sound hack has been one of the loudest phones I've had. I can speak up on the g4 Tuesday but since there's no root yet I can only give details on the stock experience. You have 14 days to return the phone so I say try both and see what suits you. I was lucky enough to have my wife's upgrade as soon as the g4 was released so I have both. :good:
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I get mine Tuesday, I loved my g3 then switched to the nexus 6 when I got my upgrade, wasn't a fan of the s6 edge. The nexus 6 is a very solid phone, I have mine rooted with aosip rom from droyd running zen kernel. Battery has been amazing using this combination, speed is silky smooth, and volume is loud! I love a loud speaker that's why I'm going to try the g4. The g3 with sound hack has been one of the loudest phones I've had. I can speak up on the g4 Tuesday but since there's no root yet I can only give details on the stock experience. You have 14 days to return the phone so I say try both and see what suits you. I was lucky enough to have my wife's upgrade as soon as the g4 was released so I have both. :good:
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i really like the nexus 6. from the time playing with my buds, im pretty sure ill get that. I just dont like buying tech things (computer parts or phones) that have been on the market to long. i know the next nexus is rumored to not come out till this coming October, but being how the G4 has the 808 chip and a better camera. the thing that's making me indecisive is the G4 having a skin over android as well as the risk of not having root and or custom recoveries.
how long did it take for the G3 to have root?
To also sum this up, it also depends on what your needs are. If you want primarily a gaming and heavy-CPU use phone, as well as lots of development (now) the N6 might be better off. If you like lots of gadgets and a great camera, the G4 is for you.
I had the Nexus 6 abs and I decided to go with the G4 and I'm loving it!
I have had my note 4 since it came out, my G4 is sitting here almost ready to go back, I had the G2 and G3, all notes so far. I really wanted to like the G4 better than the note.
I got the S6 edge, but returned it (not as good as the note 4).
G4 vs Note 4 = note 4 is rooted and I am running Dynamic Pop, or CM12.1 depending.
Performance and benchmarks
The note 4 Antutu is 50,000 to 52,000 the G4 is 48,000 to 50,000, G4 gets hung up easy on some tasks, both are about as fluid on easy stuff.
Screen, the Note 4 is at leaast twice as bright, much easier to read indoor and out doors and have MUCH better viewing angles, like a printed page vs a lcd screen. The G4 just looks dull, and you have to wait for the back light to turn up so you can see anything, not a biggie, but its a flagship phone?
Download speed, again for some reason the note 4 seems to do much better, same area same time seems to be getting in the 30 or 40 Mg down, and the G4 stays around 14 or 20.
Leather, the G4 is way better than the note 4 fake leather.
Size for almost the same size the note 4 has much more usable screen.
Battery, note 4 at least a few more hours...
I guess I have to send it back, why get a newer, slower, dimmer, slower downloading phone?
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I have had my note 4 since it came out, my G4 is sitting here almost ready to go back, I had the G2 and G3, all notes so far. I really wanted to like the G4 better than the note.
I got the S6 edge, but returned it (not as good as the note 4).
G4 vs Note 4 = note 4 is rooted and I am running Dynamic Pop, or CM12.1 depending.
Performance and benchmarks
The note 4 Antutu is 50,000 to 52,000 the G4 is 48,000 to 50,000, G4 gets hung up easy on some tasks, both are about as fluid on easy stuff.
Screen, the Note 4 is at leaast twice as bright, much easier to read indoor and out doors and have MUCH better viewing angles, like a printed page vs a lcd screen. The G4 just looks dull, and you have to wait for the back light to turn up so you can see anything, not a biggie, but its a flagship phone?
Download speed, again for some reason the note 4 seems to do much better, same area same time seems to be getting in the 30 or 40 Mg down, and the G4 stays around 14 or 20.
Leather, the G4 is way better than the note 4 fake leather.
Size for almost the same size the note 4 has much more usable screen.
Battery, note 4 at least a few more hours...
I guess I have to send it back, why get a newer, slower, dimmer, slower downloading phone?
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This is for Verizon. You wouldn't be running a CM ROM on Verizon since the BL is locked.
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I had the ip6 then got the nexus 6 as its a great phone well built also got the the Samsung s6 edge which is great for everyday use but when I'm at home I grab my nexus.
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Way better LG G4
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I really like this phone but I want to know your opinions about if is a good buy after one year released, specially considering I want to keep it for around 1.5 years..
I'm specially concerned about battery life, good software and updates or community development, ...
Also I wanted to ask this questions about the phone:
- is there any way for recording in 1080p 60 fps?
- can you drop screen resolution to 1080 for battery savings?
-Ok google with screen off drains much battery? (Most useful feature, in my Nexus 5x doesn't drain battery due to sensor hub)
I really love the phone but I'm not sure it still worthing it considering new phones like p10 and that maybe is not so big upgrade from Nexus 5x
-battery life is average 4.5hours screen on time, same as my previous Nexus 5X while my current phone 3T is never under 6hours based on the same usage.
-developement based on what your want. For me I only want a good kernel that work best with stock rom giving best battery life and performance, getting rid of kernel wakelocks but the problem is that you can't find a good kernel here. Some kernel arm for performance only. Phone's getting heat quickly while some base on stock and add extra features which are gimmick anyway (many wakelocks are still there).
-the screen of HTC is pinky which is a deal breaker for me. Love it more on Nexus 5X
-camera can't beat Nexus 5x.
-WiFi is the worst thing. Go think again.
-The phone is hell stable. Never giving a single issue and smooth all day. If you want a phone that just works and premium feel.
This is just my opinion.
Definitely worth buying!
I'm not having heat issues, and battery is fine considering that you can do a full charge in 1.5 hours. Camera is comparable with all the other flagships and beats many of them in many areas. Wifi is ok, never had issues that would made me consider it as "the worst thing".
It's a nice phone, very robust, and it should easily last for 1.5 years. Development/support for the phone is great and you can easily root it (which is essential nowadays for ensuring that you get the best out of your phone).
Worth buying but I'd probably get the pixel, you could wait for the S8 (if that's your thing)
Personally I'd wait for the HTC 11, I'm guessing it'll be a beast.
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If you can get a good deal then it definitely worth it. i doubt they will make a better device. i plan to keep using mine the next 2 years and never sell it. i am in love
To be fair the issues i am facing are,
Battery life can't get more than 4 hours SOT on very high usage.
very high battery drain when i go out, LTE Enabled + max brightness with normal usage.
carbon grey color scratch easily.
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-battery life is average 4.5hours screen on time, same as my previous Nexus 5X while my current phone 3T is never under 6hours based on the same usage.
-developement based on what your want. For me I only want a good kernel that work best with stock rom giving best battery life and performance, getting rid of kernel wakelocks but the problem is that you can't find a good kernel here. Some kernel arm for performance only. Phone's getting heat quickly while some base on stock and add extra features which are gimmick anyway (many wakelocks are still there).
-the screen of HTC is pinky which is a deal breaker for me. Love it more on Nexus 5X
-camera can't beat Nexus 5x.
-WiFi is the worst thing. Go think again.
-The phone is hell stable. Never giving a single issue and smooth all day. If you want a phone that just works and premium feel.
This is just my opinion.
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I don't have any of those problems. US unlocked. Good battery life. No "pink" screen. WiFi is superb. Running Viper10 3.5.0 with EX Kernel. Smooth and responsive. Does everything I want it to. I haven't seen any other phone I would upgrade to at this time. That's my $0.02 keep the change.
The phone is good and battery life exellent. Wifi could be better. But I miss security updates from HTC. No update since January.
I would suggest you to go for it, since prices are down, developer support is awesome lots of los+sense roms....perfromance is good (820 can be easily compared to 821), camera is decent enough my brother got s7 and we both click awesome pics....also with nougat voLTE is also there so worth buying it...
Thanks for responses. I think I will not be buying it just for the battery
In most of my phones (htc m7, nexus 5x...) battery died when going outside with LTE and high brighness
I like to enable features as google now, ok google everywhere...even google fit, that require too much battery
I recommend s7 edge...best battery ever...amoled screen...killer camera...good development
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Thanks for responses. I think I will not be buying it just for the battery
In most of my phones (htc m7, nexus 5x...) battery died when going outside with LTE and high brighness
I like to enable features as google now, ok google everywhere...even google fit, that require too much battery
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I agree with not getting it however this phone can outperform all those phones you've mentioned and their successors whilst running more things and quicker by quite some way.
It truly is a beast of a device. If you did get the 10 you would not be disappointed, I'm running the pixel launcher with Google assistant, Google allo, amongst others battery life isn't massively different from the iPhone 7, S7 edge, all the new phones and I see the day out the day out quite easily, so it does perform.
I just assumed you'd like to be at the forefront of what's out there as I would want to be, for that reason I'd hold off getting the 10, but not because it isn't a capable device, or can't run against the best other phones out there, far from it mate.
EG: I've had a GameCube emulator running Zelda the Windwaker 90℅ of the first island at near 30fps all the way, which is no easy feat.
As I said before, if it were me at this moment, I'd say the pixel, or if I was smart I'd say the S8 (if you don't mind Sammy, has to be a good phone to make up for the notes blowing up)
Personally it has to be the HTC 11, or whatever they end up calling it.
[emoji6] but thats me.
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I agree with not getting it however this phone can outperform all those phones you've mentioned and their successors whilst running more things and quicker by quite some way.
It truly is a beast of a device. If you did get the 10 you would not be disappointed, I'm running the pixel launcher with Google assistant, Google allo, amongst others battery life isn't massively different from the iPhone 7, S7 edge, all the new phones and I see the day out the day out quite easily, so it does perform.
I just assumed you'd like to be at the forefront of what's out there as I would want to be, for that reason I'd hold off getting the 10, but not because it isn't a capable device, or can't run against the best other phones out there, far from it mate.
EG: I've had a GameCube emulator running Zelda the Windwaker 90℅ of the first island at near 30fps all the way, which is no easy feat.
As I said before, if it were me at this moment, I'd say the pixel, or if I was smart I'd say the S8 (if you don't mind Sammy, has to be a good phone to make up for the notes blowing up)
Personally it has to be the HTC 11, or whatever they end up calling it.
[emoji6] but thats me.
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Of course it's a capable device, just that I require a good battery life so I can use the phone as a smartphone, with everything enabled as I like, and it eats the battery so...
I don't like Samsung so I'll wait to see new htc however I don't think I get it because of the price. I will wait for a future one plus with smaller screen or a Huawei p10 when it drops its price
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I am debating about the same. I am still holding to my old M8 but the battery life is not so good and the top speaker is distorting the sound and I love my stereo front speakers. But I think I will wait for confirmation on the expected HTC 11 and see if it´s much better.
Once thing I am worried about is that we still don't even have a leak or rumor about the 11. Could it be that no 11 is coming and it´s vaporware?
Cheers
If you like an all metal phone, then yes it is still worth buying it. If you'd like latest specs and a glas body then you'd better wait and get the HTC Ocean. I'm sure it will come, but HTC currently is good at keeping it's secrets, as it seems.
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If you like an all metal phone, then yes it is still worth buying it. If you'd like latest specs and a glas body then you'd better wait and get the HTC Ocean. I'm sure it will come, but HTC currently is good at keeping it's secrets, as it seems.
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So you believe that the Ultra was an indication that the all metal chassis phone trend from HTC has ended for good?!
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So you believe that the Ultra was an indication that the all metal chassis phone trend from HTC has ended for good?!
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Yes I'd guess so.
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I just bought a "mint" Verizon HTC 10 for only $395 from Swappa with S-OFF($25 already saved). Here is my list of factors when purchasing a phone:
I live in a Verizon only reliable area.
I will only use this type of phone: Rootable (with good development behind it), SDcard slot, headphone jack, USB-C
My backup LineageOS S5 is on it's last leg physically, really needed a new phone.
Prefer one handed phones.
Prefer OEM's that encourage unlocked bootloaders and rooting (HTC, LG, and OnePlus seem to be it)
Strongly prefer front facing stereo speakers.
Prefer IP68
Prefer OIS, with large megapixels (for low light)
Dislike glass phones (don't need wireless charging tradeoff for crackable back panels).
Dislike camera bumps
From that list, the Verizon HTC 10 EMEI activates easily on Verizon, is rooted, has SDcard slot, headphone jack, USB-C, 5.2 display (one handed), metal body, and OIS with large megapixelas, and is from a OEM that encourages the phone OS freedom.
The 3 things the HTC 10 fails to check for me are:
No IP68, but at least it's IP53.
No front facing stereo speakers, but at least it has 1 front facing tweeter with a sideways woofer to make BoomSound...better than most other phones on the market.
No camera bump, but I put cases on my phones anyways.
Got to ask you guys I'm undecided between the Huawei P10 or the HTC 10.. I've only had HTC's since back in the days of when they made the XDA's for O2 with Windows mobile.
Which phone would you choose.. so far the only thing I really like about the P10 is that it has 128GB of Memory and well the 6GB of Ram doesn't hurt either.
Finally I bought Xiaomi mi5s. But it happens that aosp/lineageos roms are great but camera quality and battery are much worse
And I refuse to use miui
So I'm thinking again about htc 10. My question is about roms. Since htc won't update software anymore, I would like to know if developers do the job...
I mean, are dev roms as good as stock roms? (I see it has offical support for great roms like Resurrection remix or Mokee
That would be the point for buying it or not
It also has official support for Lineage OS and they've announced it will get a stock android O update (which will probably come around January if history repeats itself). The developers are keeping up with security releases, so if that's your biggest concern then get a non-stock based rom and run with it. I'm pretty happy with the phone. The one downside to running non-stock based roms (AOSP or LOS based) is that you'll lose HDR on the camera.
For the record, I picked mine up last month. It's a Sprint model that I unlocked the sim and LTE bands on and am running it on T-Mobile.
I don't know about you but my answer is NO. This thing did not live up to my expectations at all. The specs read like they are all premium but the device is low quality at best. Using the device is an actual nightmare. The camera is a blurry mess, the GPS never locks, the file system is crap and freezes up when you try to load things. I bought into the gimmick and I lost... Anybody want to buy this piece of junk for a low price so I can buy an iphone and just have something that works?
OH... the bluetooth constantly bugs out... another thing that annoys me every single day.
I like the phone just don't love it. My Pixel 2 XL still feels better when I pick it up. What chaps my hide is when my photos disappear or when my phone app just disappears when I'm talking to someone.
The 7T is just perfect. But I won't buy newer phones if they have display a la "Samsung Edge". I hate the curved one.
I found the 5T to be super premium build quality. It's amazing. The Pixel 2 XL I bought at the same time was absolute junk. It had a noticeably poorer build quality and a really bad OLED screen.
I am getting a 7T Friday and will see if they maintained the great build quality (although I had an 8 Pro I returned for a week and it had excellent build quality like my 5T). I can't see where the OP is coming from regarding it not feeling premium? Is it just an OS perspective? I only ran OOS on my 5T for a couple weeks before switching exclusively to AOSP.
Sorry but this is nonsense! your argument is vague and silly. what is "low quality"? I still have my oneplus one, the oneplus 3t, oneplus 5t, all working good and now a 7t, which looks great and is great....
Absolutely yes! I find my 7T is perfect and worthy for the price paid. I don't have any issues or hardware errors.
Rooted and using a custom kernel
I don't know actually. I find the OnePlus phones to be still very good, but I'm kinda disappointed on how the team is struggling to keep them updated since they began to release lot of phones every year.
Plus, I like the improvements they made with the camera on the new OP8 Pro, but I want a phone that is totally comparable to iPhones/Galaxy phone in that area if I have to spend 900+ euros.
The 7T is literally perfect.
This is my first OP phone and I'd say - yes. I hope there'll be new OP phone without curved display.
If they release reasonably priced phones with flat screens. The price for the 8-series is too much considering it's a tencent phone.
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If they release reasonably priced phones with flat screens. The price for the 8-series is too much considering it's a tencent phone.
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I would gladly pay $1000 for a flat screened 8 Pro. But it doesn't exist and the S20+, even ignoring the terrible OS skin, is $1350 from Samsung unlocked. That is just too much for basically the same phone and a crippled software experience. And the S20+ has a curved screen as well! Although not as bad as the 8/8 Pro.
I have been with OP for the last 3 months, 7T is my first OP. Feel happier than with the other chinese brand X (4 years with them).
I recommend the OP, but please no pop up camera and curve edge.
I have to agree with the OP.
I'm having the exact same issues they are. Since most are software related I was hoping updates and custom ROMs could fix,a real shame there isn't any development for this device
For me 7T is almost perfect. I love it. If only battery and average stock camera indoor pic were better. I love to tinker my phone so with gcam , camera issues are solved ?. Since I don't game , so battery is enough for me to last full day with 20% left. YMMV.
I went from OP2 to HTC U11 to OP7T. Have no regrets. Will purchase OP9T if there are no better alternative. I change my phone every 2 years.
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I have to agree with the OP.
I'm having the exact same issues they are. Since most are software related I was hoping updates and custom ROMs could fix,a real shame there isn't any development for this device
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Have you even looked in this forum for custom roms and kernels?
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I have been with OP for the last 3 months, 7T is my first OP. Feel happier than with the other chinese brand X (4 years with them).
I recommend the OP, but please no pop up camera and curve edge.
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What brand? We want to know!
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Have you even looked in this forum for custom roms and kernels?
What brand? We want to know!
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Yes, there are as far as I know just 2 ROMs out there... Neither work with MMS on Verizon.
If you have another recommendation would love to hear it- for me just looking for stability and speed.
Thanks for everyone on this forum helping make the device great!
Yep, had three... OnePlus One, 6T, 7T (bought the 7T when the price went down, sold the 6T).
I don't buy them when they first are released. I wait until a new one is about to be released, then pick up the previous years model
typically at a reduced price.
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Yes, there are as far as I know just 2 ROMs out there... Neither work with MMS on Verizon.
If you have another recommendation would love to hear it- for me just looking for stability and speed.
Thanks for everyone on this forum helping make the device great!
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There are three ROMS available right now. I would recommend Omni for speed and stability, but not sure about your specific use-case.
IDK, no matter what setting I pick, the ringtone for google messages does not work and the do not auto update option in playstore does not work. This is only an issue on the 7T.