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I'm looking to purchasing a MTCB double din head unit, however, I've been reading about microphone issues even with external microphones. This requires hardware modification to fix for some models. However, I cannot determine if all units are like this, or only some. Please let me know!
Thanks!
All the devices I have seen are basically the same and I think actuall built by the same people. They are just sold by many different vendors. So I don't think any of them are free from this problem. The repair itself is not too bad, a fine tip soldering iron really helps. But if anyone knows one without the problem I would be happy to be wrong!
I have a Joying HU and have not done the mic mod or even hooked up the external mic. Using only the onboard mic, my android voice control works fine and BT calls work as expected. Friends say I sound fine and no echo issues on their end.
I too have a joying unit with no mic issues. I think there might have been a hardware revision recently. FWIW pumpkin is selling what looks to be a MTCB with a parrot bluetooth in it.
Geekybiker said:
I too have a joying unit with no mic issues. I think there might have been a hardware revision recently. FWIW pumpkin is selling what looks to be a MTCB with a parrot bluetooth in it.
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I've the new Pumpkin and the microphones are still in parallel making the sound as bad as it use to be. No real improvement. Had to cut the wires
on the front one.
The thing is that they promise 24h response, but sine it's Chinese New Year the response time is 7 days.
I have a joying and did not connect the external mic. Bluetooth works fine, I hear them and they hear me no problem. I had an Erisin with no external mic and had no problems either.
I was just wondering which country people are in, I am in Australia so we drive on the right hand side of the car and the mic is on the left hand side of the units, therefore the mic is closer to the user [potentially] than us, maybe that is why it is clearer? just a thought bubble.
LHD, wouldn't think RHD would effect it much, if any. Road noise and speech volume would have a greater effect.
So, this is one part commentary/review(ish), one part questions. Let's talk about this dude. So, I had a Pioneer DVD unit in my 2003 F-150 that I was really unhappy with (for several reasons I won't bother explaining). Being a bit of a tech geek, I really wanted something better, that wouldn't require an extra add on unit for navigation, and would give me a little flexibility wherever I wanted it. I was really surprised that there wasn't a better selection of head units that run Android on the market, but being such, I found Joying pretty fast. I read a bunch on here, and decided it was worth throwing the dice and a few hours at. FWIW, I ordered off Amazon, and got the JY-UL135 unit (Android 5.1.1, 7" screen, 1024x600, 16GB, 1.6GHz quad core). It seems Joying has a couple slightly different units with basically the same specs for sale. I have no idea what distinguishes them besides a slightly different bezel setup. I *think* this is the newer one. Maybe. Who knows.
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Trust the reviews. This unit is a tiny bit bigger than it should be. I don't know why. So be it. So was my Pioneer though, but this is about another 1/8" wider, so I'll need to barely widen my already modified mounting hole.
Soldering up the wiring harness was no trouble. Uncommonly used wires were neatly capped too.
The instructions, labels, and some of the in-system notifications are in pretty rough translated English. Not a big deal, but just be aware.
If you want to do a custom boot logo, for some reason it's hidden behind the Factory Settings, with the code 126 to access it.
Unit feels plenty fast and responsive, and the build quality is acceptable at the price.
Wifi connected right up.
I did have trouble connecting to my Bluetooth OBD2 reader, which seems to be a common complaint. I'm ordering a $10 one that matches the Elm327 unit Joying offers for $20. We'll see if it works.
I prefer OBD Fusion over Torque, personally. Once the above is resolved, I'm interested to see how it compares on the unit.
Included GPS antenna has plenty of length, and seems to get a signal without issue.
I grounded the brake sensor wire right to the chassis ground line to bypass it, need to confirm that works.
Was able to pretty closely match the backlight color to the rest of my dash.
Going to use an old Micro SD card to try storing offline Google Maps data for those cellular black hole areas I travel to.
Also planning to get a dashcam to try out the DVR functionality. You never know when that could be $35 well spent.
Audio seems okay. Not great, but acceptable for my use. I do have one speaker not working that I need to diagnose. And I don't currently have an amp/sub, but do think I'll add a small one down the road.
Overall, I'm not in love with the launcher installed on it.
I still need to test phone mirroring, connecting via tethering to my phone's hotspot for nav data, install my backup camera, modify my external mic connector to be compatible with the input,
Questions for the Hive Mind
Does anyone know if these newer units benefit from the audio hack/mod discussed elsewhere?
Rooting. Do it, or no? If so, what's your preferred process?
What's your opinion on different launchers?
The Factory Settings menu appears to have quite a bit of stuff in it. Anything besides the boot logo really worth paying attention to?
i recently got the Jeep specific one from Amazon, Joying 5.1, should be the same stuff.
Pretty happy so far, I downloaded my city in Google Maps, but I didn't see an option to save it to a micro sd card. I didn't have to solder anything since I got vehicle specific, all plug and play. Also I used an adapter to use the Jeeps existing GPS. Fit and finish seems pretty top notch on mine, at least for the physical buttons.
I was considering rooting to try to do Apps2SD or something, I just want my Google Play Music playlists downloaded. I can do it, but it fills up the memory, and I dont have the option to put it on the micro sd card.
I was also confused by the Factory Settings options. There was an IPOD part listed as No. I changed it to YES and it gave me an ipod app, but it just immediately crashed, so I turned it back off.
CadillacMike said:
i recently got the Jeep specific one from Amazon, Joying 5.1, should be the same stuff.
Pretty happy so far, I downloaded my city in Google Maps, but I didn't see an option to save it to a micro sd card. I didn't have to solder anything since I got vehicle specific, all plug and play. Also I used an adapter to use the Jeeps existing GPS. Fit and finish seems pretty top notch on mine, at least for the physical buttons.
I was considering rooting to try to do Apps2SD or something, I just want my Google Play Music playlists downloaded. I can do it, but it fills up the memory, and I dont have the option to put it on the micro sd card.
I was also confused by the Factory Settings options. There was an IPOD part listed as No. I changed it to YES and it gave me an ipod app, but it just immediately crashed, so I turned it back off.
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I didn't even actually realize they made brand specific models when I ordered mine, though I think outside of the wiring harness, that maybe doesn't matter. My truck is a 2003 too, so there really isn't anything in the way of fancy electronics in it to deal with, which probably helps.
I just got my backup cam mounted on my license plate, going out after work to wire it up hopefully. It's hot as hell here right now though, so we'll see how much I want to stay out there and do it with the sun still shining though.
CadillacMike said:
i recently got the Jeep specific one from Amazon, Joying 5.1, should be the same stuff.
Pretty happy so far, I downloaded my city in Google Maps, but I didn't see an option to save it to a micro sd card. I didn't have to solder anything since I got vehicle specific, all plug and play. Also I used an adapter to use the Jeeps existing GPS. Fit and finish seems pretty top notch on mine, at least for the physical buttons.
I was considering rooting to try to do Apps2SD or something, I just want my Google Play Music playlists downloaded. I can do it, but it fills up the memory, and I dont have the option to put it on the micro sd card.
I was also confused by the Factory Settings options. There was an IPOD part listed as No. I changed it to YES and it gave me an ipod app, but it just immediately crashed, so I turned it back off.
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IPOD I believe is quoted to not be working with that model.. How is the audio with the Jeep specific one? It looks just like the current 4.4 version and I was not sure if any hardware has changed. I was also looking at the 7in universal one that is mentioned by OP but wanted to know if it is better than the jeep specific one as far as audio hardware and sound. I know the screen size is smaller but was not sure if there is anything else. Any complaints so far on the 5.5 version of the Jeep one??
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IPOD I believe is quoted to not be working with that model.. How is the audio with the Jeep specific one? It looks just like the current 4.4 version and I was not sure if any hardware has changed. I was also looking at the 7in universal one that is mentioned by OP but wanted to know if it is better than the jeep specific one as far as audio hardware and sound. I know the screen size is smaller but was not sure if there is anything else. Any complaints so far on the 5.5 version of the Jeep one??
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I dont know anything about the 4.4 version. All i have is the 5.1 version, but i find that many complaints I read about these things are not evident in my version, so maybe stuff did change. For example people say you have to buy some antenna adapter, which I did not need, it had one in the box. FM radio sounds fine, although I dont listen to it. I just tried it so see what's up.
I have a 2016 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited, I had the 430N with the base audio. I had replaced the factory speakers with the Mopar Kicker upgrades. Sound is 100% better with the Joying.
I have a lot of details and pics here:
http://www.wranglerforum.com/f202/j...d-head-unit-joying-jeep-specific-1800113.html
I'm thinking about buying this head unit for my car, and I was wondering if anyone can give an input after a few months of usage.
What I'm worried about is the 1gb RAM , when there are new versions with 2GB of RAM
Do you think the 1GB is a deal breaker?
Thanks!
KamaL said:
I'm thinking about buying this head unit for my car, and I was wondering if anyone can give an input after a few months of usage.
What I'm worried about is the 1gb RAM , when there are new versions with 2GB of RAM
Do you think the 1GB is a deal breaker?
Thanks!
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If you dont mind things going slow, otherwise get the 2gb. Also, if you plan to use a dashcam and rexord, then def get a 2gb. I just ordered the UL135N2 this morning. Should get to my place in Wisconsin just after new years.
KamaL said:
I'm thinking about buying this head unit for my car, and I was wondering if anyone can give an input after a few months of usage.
What I'm worried about is the 1gb RAM , when there are new versions with 2GB of RAM
Do you think the 1GB is a deal breaker?
Thanks!
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I upgraded the 1GB RAM unit I posted about earlier in this thread with a 2GB unit, it is night and day, no comparison, 2GB all the way
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I upgraded the 1GB RAM unit I posted about earlier in this thread with a 2GB unit, it is night and day, no comparison, 2GB all the way
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So, did you buy one 2gb ram model?
or replace with 1gb ram model??
I'm using 1gb ram model and I want to upgrade to 2gb ram.
Your F150 is a non-standard DIN fitting. It is about 2 mm too short (vertical face) for a standard 2-DIN head unit. No matter what unit you bought it will "appear" incorrect but it's really just Ford brilliantly coming up with their own size to be special.
David Choi said:
So, did you buy one 2gb ram model?
or replace with 1gb ram model??
I'm using 1gb ram model and I want to upgrade to 2gb ram.
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I had a Jeep specific unit from Joying that was a MTCD, Android 5.1, and only 1GB of RAM. I loved it at the time.
I got a new unit. 8inch double din, Intel, and 2GB of RAM
I love the bigger screen, and the performance is no comparison
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Your F150 is a non-standard DIN fitting. It is about 2 mm too short (vertical face) for a standard 2-DIN head unit. No matter what unit you bought it will "appear" incorrect but it's really just Ford brilliantly coming up with their own size to be special.
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The Chinese units are not quite Double Din either. I know on the Jeep forums, every time someone puts in an American double din, people have to file things down to fit.
But when I put the Joying Double Din, it fit just fine, no filing required
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The Chinese units are not quite Double Din either. I know on the Jeep forums, every time someone puts in an American double din, people have to file things down to fit.
But when I put the Joying Double Din, it fit just fine, no filing required
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This is what you're looking for;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_7736
To summarize, USA double DIN = 7" x 4" (177.8mm x 101.6mm)
Metric double DIN = 180mm x 100mm (7.09" x 3.93").
In other words, the Metric double DIN is nearly 1/10th of an inch wider than a USA double DIN.
The Chinese head units are made to 178mm x 100mm for the UL135[N[2]] or 178mm x 102mm for the UL128[N[2]]. Don't ask me why they went for 102mm on the 128's. But essentially, the USA DDIN is just a little bit TOO NARROW for these head units, which seem to be targeting METRIC dimensions. Well, except for the 128's height, which is a bit closer to USA spec, but still marginally over.
Hello the team XDA,
I have mounted a joying UL-135 in a my car with a special harness.
I have a problem with the sleep mode. Head unit never shut down completely.
When a turn off the keycar, head unit shut down...then after few minutes, touch lights are shuting down too.
Then it's impossible to turn on the head unit.
After a night of parking, when i turn on the car, head unit start quickly to the previous postition without booting from Logo.
Do you have a solution ? i have tried to enter in the developer menu but it needs a password and i dont have it ?
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Hello the team XDA,
I have mounted a joying UL-135 in a my car with a special harness.
I have a problem with the sleep mode. Head unit never shut down completely.
When a turn off the keycar, head unit shut down...then after few minutes, touch lights are shuting down too.
Then it's impossible to turn on the head unit.
After a night of parking, when i turn on the car, head unit start quickly to the previous postition without booting from Logo.
Do you have a solution ? i have tried to enter in the developer menu but it needs a password and i dont have it ?
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Is it a UL135? Or is it a UL135N or UL135N2? The latter two will deep sleep when the ignition is turned off, allowing them to start up *instantly* when the power is resumed. Your description of device behavior is consistent with N[2] units. In fact, I'm not even sure it is possible for a UL135 to do what you describe, since if it wasn't shutting down, the screen would remain on.
sorry it's the JY-UL135N
Anyone been able to root the UL135? I don't have the factory settings menu.. So I have no idea what to do..
Hey guys,
Not sure if i'm the first on this forum to receive my joying 8inch head unit but i got it last friday and installed it the same day. This thing is awesome.
I've never had an android head unit but i've been hovering around these forums for about 2 months waiting for a 2gb unit to come out. I got on the new joying unit right when it came out and purchased it on amazon right away. Their customer service was awesome, they made sure i had the tools needed to install it before they shipped it out (which i did). and it still only took 4 days to get to me (central USA).
Coming from a $600 pioneer head unit i could not be happier. This is awesome. If you guys would like some more pics, or information feel free to post here or email me at [email protected]. Also i am the only one to have a review on amazon so far
Won't let me put images cause i'm still new to posting.. so here is the URL broken up
imgur .com /a/7vSZX
Installed steering wheel controls. It was not to bad, would of only taken a few minutes if i would of known what to do. I own a Subaru WRX 2010. I had to wire Key 2 to Pin #4 and Pin #14 to ground.
You will have a car crash soon...
When you keep driving and taking/posting fotos (of your android radio) and fidling arround.
But thanks for the first impression. Looks like they changed the equalizer software from the fake 9 to a honest 3-Band EQ.
Anything about the Audio Quality?
Greetings
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You will have a car crash soon...
When you keep driving and taking/posting fotos (of your android radio) and fidling arround.
But thanks for the first impression. Looks like they changed the equalizer software from the fake 9 to a honest 3-Band EQ.
Anything about the Audio Quality?
Greetings
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Seems good. better then the previous aftermarket radio i had in the car.
Also I did not make the post while driving.
Will you be rooting the device anytime soon? Any bluetooth issues with regards to connecting multiple devices/call quality? any problems with the mic?
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Will you be rooting the device anytime soon? Any bluetooth issues with regards to connecting multiple devices/call quality? any problems with the mic?
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Not sure if i need to root it as everything i want i think i can get without. i'm open to hearing arguements about why i should root it though.
I have not tested out multiple devices on the bluetooth, i can do that later today. I have not tested the Mic as i do not make phone calls often. The microphone it came with seems to be almost identical to the one that came with my pioneer, just like a $6 mic you can get on amazon.
AeonSaber said:
Not sure if i need to root it as everything i want i think i can get without. i'm open to hearing arguements about why i should root it though.
I have not tested out multiple devices on the bluetooth, i can do that later today. I have not tested the Mic as i do not make phone calls often. The microphone it came with seems to be almost identical to the one that came with my pioneer, just like a $6 mic you can get on amazon.
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Thanks. If you do end up testing the mic, please let us know!
@ AeonSaber:
please can you post a pitcure about your system information with the MCU version and show me the url about your purchase?
Interested in the mic quality also. Will be installing mine in a F150 with the factory sync system and hoping the mic quality is on par.
Question about the subwoofer settings on these units, are there any you can adjust like low-pass filter and/or cutoff frequencies and stuff?
AeonSaber said:
Hey guys,
Not sure if i'm the first on this forum to receive my joying 8inch head unit but i got it last friday and installed it the same day. This thing is awesome.
I've never had an android head unit but i've been hovering around these forums for about 2 months waiting for a 2gb unit to come out. I got on the new joying unit right when it came out and purchased it on amazon right away. Their customer service was awesome, they made sure i had the tools needed to install it before they shipped it out (which i did). and it still only took 4 days to get to me (central USA).
Coming from a $600 pioneer head unit i could not be happier. This is awesome. If you guys would like some more pics, or information feel free to post here or email me at [email protected]. Also i am the only one to have a review on amazon so far
Won't let me put images cause i'm still new to posting.. so here is the URL broken up
imgur .com /a/7vSZX
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I just installed an 8" in my Prius Plug-in, I couldn't get the steering wheel control and backup camera to work after 2 days of messing with it. So I took it to Best Buy to get that working. Tech support at Joying sucks and it takes 24 hours to get a reply from them.
Bluetooth connects to the phone, but music doesn't play, fm reception sucks, and it won't read my 128gig sdcard. I haven't had a chance to really get into it yet, but I will when I get it back from Best Buy and I'll repost then with a full report.
wanb1i said:
I just installed an 8" in my Prius Plug-in, I couldn't get the steering wheel control and backup camera to work after 2 days of messing with it. So I took it to Best Buy to get that working. Tech support at Joying sucks and it takes 24 hours to get a reply from them.
Bluetooth connects to the phone, but music doesn't play, fm reception sucks, and it won't read my 128gig sdcard. I haven't had a chance to really get into it yet, but I will when I get it back from Best Buy and I'll repost then with a full report.
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The FM reception is fine in my car, that is weird that it is not going well for you, maybe you could give the antenna more power. To get the 128gb sd card to work i had to put it in my phone first, my phone formatted it correctly for android, then i threw it into my radio. If you'd like some help with other things i am more than happy if you email me.
Also their customer support has been good to me so far, yes it takes a while for them to reply because their business hours are when we are sleeping. lol
I'm not crazy about the 8"+ units because they look like a tablet duct taped to the dashboard. The DDIN 7" all-glass units are supposed to be available soon. It would be nice if they'd increase the screen size on the DDIN units, there is enough bezel to increase to at LEAST 7.5, maybe even 8". You certainly don't need the row of capacitive buttons on Android, since they're just duplicated from on-screen buttons anyway!
AeonSaber said:
Not sure if i need to root it as everything i want i think i can get without. i'm open to hearing arguements about why i should root it though.
I have not tested out multiple devices on the bluetooth, i can do that later today. I have not tested the Mic as i do not make phone calls often. The microphone it came with seems to be almost identical to the one that came with my pioneer, just like a $6 mic you can get on amazon.
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Did you end up testing the multiple bt connection ? Like with a phone and an obd2?
Is the microphone 'visible' to Android on these? Ie, can you use voice commands ('Ok google'), etc?
I can't believe I'm considering going back down this road, but my Newsmy Android box bit the dust (head unit part is OK), and I don't have the time or energy to really push my DIY project.
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Did you end up testing the multiple bt connection ? Like with a phone and an obd2?
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I did not get around to trying this out. i did try to pair my ODB adapter and gave up after 5 secconds, was going to google it as this is my first android radio. Did not try out multiple phones. I will try to remember to do the ODB after work today but no promises.
Zaphod-Beeblebrox said:
Is the microphone 'visible' to Android on these? Ie, can you use voice commands ('Ok google'), etc?
I can't believe I'm considering going back down this road, but my Newsmy Android box bit the dust (head unit part is OK), and I don't have the time or energy to really push my DIY project.
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I have not tried it. i'm new to android head units so i do not know where i would start that functionality.
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I have not tried it. i'm new to android head units so i do not know where i would start that functionality.
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Quickest thing to do would probably bring up some app (sound recorder?) that can use the MIC and see if it works. Google Maps, Google Search, etc.
I'm not familiar with the MTC series, but almost all of the android head units utilize an 'MCU' (in this case made my microntek) to control the analog audio sources, and mixes in the digital (Android) audio. That analog audio is typically not 'visible' to android (ie, you cannot record FM radio as the Android board only controls the operation of the radio through the MCU. It doesn't actually run that audio through an ADC back to Android.).
In most of the devices I've seen, the MIC port is wired to the Bluetooth HFP module, which is not actually part of the Android board. It's one of those 'analog sources' that the Android box can control through MCU commands, but the underlying I/O is invisible to the system.
How sturdy is it? I have a double din opening that is a little to small and would need to be trimmed to fit. I was thinking since the single din would be completely covered by the larger screen, I wouldn't need to modify the opening. Does it move when using it? I won't be able to stand it if it moves around or makes any rattle sounds. Thanks in advance for your input.
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How sturdy is it? I have a double din opening that is a little to small and would need to be trimmed to fit. I was thinking since the single din would be completely covered by the larger screen, I wouldn't need to modify the opening. Does it move when using it? I won't be able to stand it if it moves around or makes any rattle sounds. Thanks in advance for your input.
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Seems sturdy. the screen mounts on 4 points to the single din, they are fully adjustable. It does not move at all when i touch it.
Where did you order your unit from? Amazon or directly from Joying? I would rather order through amazon for the better customer service but if they aren't shipping until the end of nov/beginning of dec I would order through Joying to receive it sooner.
A quick bit of background, I have recently sold my car that had a factory fit wince media centre fitted, and although locked down I miss the navigation and ease of use in my new car. The new car is actually a 10 year old Mazda MX5 NC (MK3) and currently has the stock radio which I'm thinking of upgrading.
I have figured I had 2 choices, either an all singing android unit, or a regular manufactures unit which supports Apple AirPlay. I figured that would still give me the basics of what I need, and probably with no potential for things to go wrong Anyway I like a challenge and the though of having more possible functionality I think is winning the argument for getting an android unit, but I have a few final questions from people in the know!
I have bene looking at a couple of units that look pretty similar spec wise (cornet me if I'm wrong) :-
Pumpkin AE0273B, XTRONS TE706PL. I was posting links to them but I'm not allowed yet So you will have to google for the exact details if needed.
So onto the questions :
1. I see a lot of the connectivity is via USB, and If I were to add several of the extras (E.g DAB+, 3/4G, DashCam, Phone) I would ned more USB ports than supplied (The XTRONS has 3, but the Pumpkin only 2). Can I just use a USB hub to get more ports like on a computer? If yes I'm assuming a powered one would be better as those accessories all need power.
2. I currently have a simple dash cam that just records video and audio in a loop onto an SD card all the time the ignition is on. Each file is about 2 mins long and I get about 4 hours recording before it starts to overwrite older files. This works great as I can forget about it and in 3 years, have never had to even look at the footage, and hopefully never will. But it gives peace of mind. I see you can get a USB one that I'm sure will have much better user interface if I want to play back footage. My existing camera has a phono out which I could connect to an AUX input to use the screen, but would still have the fiddly buttons to press on the camera behind my mirror.
Does the DVR app on the unit with the USB camera just crack on and record stuff in a similar I can forget about it way, and its just all there if I need it in the future. Or do I need to do something every time I turn the ignition on? Where does it record the footage, do I need to provide an additional SD card?
3. I see there are often 2 SD card slots, one marked for maps, the other presumably for music. Is there actually any difference, or are these just 2 mount points in the system that get used for anything? This question just came to me when thinking about the camera above. It wasn't actually on my list!
4. I'm worried that with a convertible car I'm not going to be able to see the screen due to the huge amount of ambient or even direct sun light. I have heard that there are anti-glare filters which could help a bit, but is this going to be a problem for me when it comes to navigating etc? Are the screens on the standard manufacture units (e.g. Pioneer etc) any better. In other words would I be better off sacrificing the cool stuff and getting a straight CarPlay unit that would be bright enough to see?
5. Lots os talk about rooting the device. What are the actual advantages of doing this? Are there some killer apps that make this a worth while exercise?
I appreciate its a long post and there are lots of questions, so a big thank you in advance for any of the questions you might be able to answer.
Regards
Ben
EDIT: forgot to mention — almost all units are identical to one another. They all have almost identical MTCD/MTCE MCU boards with the same audio/radio/wifi/Bluetooth chips (there are exceptions). And the main SoC is gonna be a PX5 with 4 GB of ram. So outside of that you want build quality (buttons, screen, plastic) and if it’s made to fit your car already.
First off, check out Joying units which have Carplay built in as well (and they have Octa core 4gb android 8.0 double din universal ones).
Next, yes you’d be able to use a USB hub and yes a powered one is best. Get one that works off of 12v and wire it in for a clean solution (so you always have a powered hub in your glove box for instance)
There are dash cams that the head unit manufacturers will sell you that you can leave plugged into your unit and they will auto record as you say. You basically don’t have to touch them, and just open the necessary app if you wanna change settings, or lock/save a file.
The 2 SD card slots are identical but one of them is meant to be always-in for GPS maps (for the Navi that the seller pre-loads sometimes). Also for firmware updates the GPS slot is the only one it boots from.
Glare depends heavily on the angle that your dash positions the screen at, so it’s hard to say. But yeah sometimes the sun hits it just right and there’s pretty much nothing you can do. Happens on oem units too.
Rooting isn’t super necessary but depending on how much you want to tinker it adds nice features like apps staying open after sleep, and the ability to customize the way everything looks. That said, there’s a lot in the way of customization that’s already available. Check malaysk’s custom ROM though. It’s pretty stable and the inclusion of viper4android alone is worth the hassle (in my opinion)
Hope this helps!
So it looks to me like there are 3 generic systems that have been badged up, one with a knob at the top, one with a knob at the bottom, and one without a knob.
The ones with the knobs seem to have the slightly newer TDA7851 amp chip, and the one with out uses the older TDA7850, which is a shame as I prefer the look of just buttons.
The Xtrons unit has a 3rd USB, which saves having to get a USB hub.
The Joying has the benefit of the built in ZLink, but as its software it does mean you loose that benefit if you use a different rom.
And there are various options on the back of the units, some have small wifi antenna built in, some have connectors for an external one.
It all make for lots of extra decisions!!
After getting Whitehouse support from Pumpkin, I would only buy Dasaita now. I just ordered a Dasaita PX5 4GB Oreo to replace my Pumpkin PX3 2GB.
Anyone else got this one:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07QV67XBW/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
So far I'm loving it!
scythe000 said:
Anyone else got this one:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07QV67XBW/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
So far I'm loving it!
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those 10" units are known to have a space between the display and the actual touch, resulting in almost a 3D / depth-like effect of the stuff onscreen (when watched from an angle, which happens usually where the driver or passenger are looking at it, no one is looking straight perpendicular to the screen). Is this also the case with this unit?
Is it known under different names? I’d love to find a thread’s talking about software options. Anyway, I don’t really notice any kind of a 3-D effect, if you look at it from an extreme angle, it does look like there is a small gap, but I definitely don’t feel it when pressing on the glass. It’s a beautiful display, a lot nicer than I would have expected.
Bluetooth seems not working in the 20190428 update.
Tried update and clean install, neither Bluetooth worked. The rest so far so good.
WangYcca said:
Bluetooth seems not working in the 20190428 update.
Tried update and clean install, neither Bluetooth worked. The rest so far so good.
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Where are you finding the updates?
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Is it known under different names? I’d love to find a thread’s talking about software options. Anyway, I don’t really notice any kind of a 3-D effect, if you look at it from an extreme angle, it does look like there is a small gap, but I definitely don’t feel it when pressing on the glass. It’s a beautiful display, a lot nicer than I would have expected.
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yes, the display is beautiful, very good contrast and color saturation.
i've seen one installed in a car few days ago, and the first thing i noticed (was sitting in the passenger seat) was the depth effect. This effect is not present in all other units 7", 8" or 9". You could see it more in the launcher main screen (it was an Ownice), less in FM radio app or mediaplayer, navi, etc...
another thing that i didn't like was that for my car i had to cancel the airbag warning connector since the unit comes with own mask and for VW/Skoda the mask that is used for 8 or 9" units has a airbag connector. The Ownice 10.2" did not. Also an issue is the huge screen at night with white background apps which even at lowest brightness they still blow your eyes off
I may buy the dsp version soon from ali express.
I need to find out if the mcu is an MTCE first, as hal9k will be developing his rom for px6 mtce, and i wouldnt be suprised if malaysk adds it too
mindriot said:
I may buy the dsp version soon from ali express.
I need to find out if the mcu is an MTCE first, as hal9k will be developing his rom for px6 mtce, and i wouldnt be suprised if malaysk adds it too
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Dasaita manufactures only mtce units
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zerozoneice said:
yes, the display is beautiful, very good contrast and color saturation.
i've seen one installed in a car few days ago, and the first thing i noticed (was sitting in the passenger seat) was the depth effect. This effect is not present in all other units 7", 8" or 9". You could see it more in the launcher main screen (it was an Ownice), less in FM radio app or mediaplayer, navi, etc...
another thing that i didn't like was that for my car i had to cancel the airbag warning connector since the unit comes with own mask and for VW/Skoda the mask that is used for 8 or 9" units has a airbag connector. The Ownice 10.2" did not. Also an issue is the huge screen at night with white background apps which even at lowest brightness they still blow your eyes off
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to clarify this, i suspect the ownice i saw had that 2.5D+nano screen, because my 10.2 dasaita has no depth issue whatsoever on its ips screen.
reg. airbag warning, it's just not visible, you need to take it out from the old cover together without unplugging it and just place it behind the screen. it won't give errors but it's not visible either...
zerozoneice said:
to clarify this, i suspect the ownice i saw had that 2.5D+nano screen, because my 10.2 dasaita has no depth issue whatsoever on its ips screen.
reg. airbag warning, it's just not visible, you need to take it out from the old cover together without unplugging it and just place it behind the screen. it won't give errors but it's not visible either...
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also no issues on my IPS screen either! Great unit for what it is. Of course there are little issues here and there like all units.
I rooted mine so I could freeze apps I don't need and really clean everything up
stokedcrf said:
also no issues on my IPS screen either! Great unit for what it is. Of course there are little issues here and there like all units.
I rooted mine so I could freeze apps I don't need and really clean everything up
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Do you have advices to root dasaita px6 ?
Thank you
Waiting infos on root aswell
What about fastboot? Can it do 2s boot? and sleep with <1mA low power?
Has anyone looked at (somehow) adding HD Radio?
My Rav4 HU has this and I've found it to be much better at receiving a signal (where I live anyway). I'm looking at a PX6 dasaita unit on Ali (also), but they all have the 6686 radio chip, where the 6688 radio chip has HD Radio included. I wonder if the 6688 couldn't be somehow retrofitted? Yes of course there would have to be pin compatibility etc, has anyone looked at that by chance?
I'm so tempted to just buy one and say scr*w the HD Radio... but sadly it's about the only thing I use the HU for! it would be hard to give that up as I almost always have the screen off
Cheers, they sure do look nice, would love to have one. Not sure if it would suit my needs though, when all said and done.
scythe000 said:
Anyone else got this one:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07QV67XBW/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
So far I'm loving it!
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Do you also have carplay wire/wireless chip on unit? did you see if that is able to charge your iphone with carplay on?
ALso have you driven longer than 2 hrs? with this unit ? I had PX5 and it used to reset over using it continuously for 2hr or more. and also PX5 was not charging iPhone while carplay was on.
If possible could any one update me on this?
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Do you also have carplay wire/wireless chip on unit? did you see if that is able to charge your iphone with carplay on?
ALso have you driven longer than 2 hrs? with this unit ? I had PX5 and it used to reset over using it continuously for 2hr or more. and also PX5 was not charging iPhone while carplay was on.
If possible could any one update me on this?
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It does charge while doing CarPlay because it’s wireless so I just plug it into my charger. Works totally fine for hours on end. I’ve got an annoying bug with VLC thinking it doesn’t have delete permissions unless I manually grant it twice, but that’s unrelated. Also a bug with my iphones voice to text requires me to type a character first before it’ll pick up mic input, but I think it’s an iPhone issue.
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It does charge while doing CarPlay because it’s wireless so I just plug it into my charger. Works totally fine for hours on end. I’ve got an annoying bug with VLC thinking it doesn’t have delete permissions unless I manually grant it twice, but that’s unrelated. Also a bug with my iphones voice to text requires me to type a character first before it’ll pick up mic input, but I think it’s an iPhone issue.
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So far looks good then.
I do not find any description on link you got on amazon, specifying about wireless carplay, i tried contacting Iris he replied that there is option to get carplay wire/wireless on PX6. I ask him to send me link to product he is yet to reply.
Did you have to specify Dasaita to get you wireless carplay? or its just standard now?
pritamjagtap said:
So far looks good then.
I do not find any description on link you got on amazon, specifying about wireless carplay, i tried contacting Iris he replied that there is option to get carplay wire/wireless on PX6. I ask him to send me link to product he is yet to reply.
Did you have to specify Dasaita to get you wireless carplay? or its just standard now?
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I could be mistaken, but I think it's wireless. I hadn't asked for anything in particular, so it might be standard now.
I have dasaita - car play works on wire plus you have to have additional box/device ( can buy it in bundle with head unit). When iPhone connected through it - CarPlay works seamlessly and your phone is charging.
One more thing - you need to have application for CarPlay too.
Regards. k
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I could be mistaken, but I think it's wireless. I hadn't asked for anything in particular, so it might be standard now.
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Would you mind creating a video and share it over youtube? about carplay ? I am interested to see it.(& I believe most of us here wants to)
I have posted mine about blackout screen a while ago.
https://youtu.be/1qTh_JQggm8
https://youtu.be/1qTh_JQggm8