Develop Bugs

Eonon or Pumpkin?

I'm trying to decide between two identical systems with minor differences;
Eonon will include a slim IR remote (which I would consider useless, except that the reason I need a new head unit is my old one has a bad screen and a remote would have made it usable)
Pumpkin does not have a remote (but still has the IR port) but has a 1024*600 screen as opposed to Eonon's 800*400.
Thoughts on which to choose?
Anyone have a remote they aren't using they want to sell to make the decision easier?

I recently bought an Eonon GA2114 to replace my old AN21U. First impressions:
-good mechanical build
-internal microphone is much better than AN 21U's
-SWC work way better
-very responsive customer support
-different build from what I have seen on this forum. Wanted to do the BT mic mod but gave up - too much disassembling involved
-slightly wider than standard 2DIN, needs fiddling with the dash frame
Had a weird issue with BT: with any KLD ROM (including Eonon official) I was unable to use BT for phone calls. It does work, however, with Joying ROMs
Hope this helps

m00n61 said:
I recently bought an Eonon GA2114 to replace my old AN21U. First impressions:s
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's the one I'm looking at. Have you used the remote that comes with the unit and, if so, is it even useful?
I'm a bit surprised that this hasn't turned into a thread of people arguing that 1024*600 is so much better and others saying that there's no practical difference between that and 800*400.

Would you like 6 donuts, or half a dozen?

NYCAR said:
That's the one I'm looking at. Have you used the remote that comes with the unit and, if so, is it even useful?
I'm a bit surprised that this hasn't turned into a thread of people arguing that 1024*600 is so much better and others saying that there's no practical difference between that and 800*400.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Haven't touched the remote, not a fan. Don't really see the utility of a remote for the driver, the screen is very responsive and so are the SWC buttons, finally. On my previous unit SWC controls were erratic ( I believe it happened because of the low priority of the control process). A remote would probably become useful if I had multiple displays in the car and the passengers in the back seat would want to change the movie or similar.
As for the screen, I am really happy with it. I actually ended up with this resolution by mistake, I was also looking for a 1024*600 but got attracted by the bigger screen of this unit and somehow missed the fact that it is 800*480. Don't regret that, 7 inch is really a significant improvement over 6.2.

I have a GA2114 too I'm pretty happy with mine, only issue I have with it is that the Bluetooth calling can sometimes be quite distorted and people can't hear me which I know is a problem with most units, I just havent got round to taking mine apart to modify. Mine seems to be fine sometimes though and people say they can hear me fine.
I had a WinCE Eonon unit before my GA2114 and the reason I went for another Eonon unit was because they were so reliable, had it for about 2 years and didn't have one issue with it.
EDIT: One small issue I forgot to mention was my microSD card slot in the front seems to be quite dodgy, the card doesn't click in properly. I can get it to sit in though by pushing it in then putting the cover back over it to hold it in place.

NYCAR said:
I'm trying to decide between two identical systems with minor differences;
Eonon will include a slim IR remote (which I would consider useless, except that the reason I need a new head unit is my old one has a bad screen and a remote would have made it usable)
Pumpkin does not have a remote (but still has the IR port) but has a 1024*600 screen as opposed to Eonon's 800*400.
Thoughts on which to choose?
Anyone have a remote they aren't using they want to sell to make the decision easier?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have bought Pumpkin head unit with ASIN B016I7C7TK on Amazon.co.uk , which includes an external wireless SWC control and it is very convenient.
It has 7-inch 1024*600 screen and Android 4.4 Quad Core 1.6GHz system.
Really impressed so far with this, for the price its definitely worth it! Had no issues so far and customer service has been very good.

m00n61 said:
I recently bought an Eonon GA2114 to replace my old AN21U. First impressions:
-good mechanical build
-internal microphone is much better than AN 21U's
-SWC work way better
-very responsive customer support
-different build from what I have seen on this forum. Wanted to do the BT mic mod but gave up - too much disassembling involved
-slightly wider than standard 2DIN, needs fiddling with the dash frame
Had a weird issue with BT: with any KLD ROM (including Eonon official) I was unable to use BT for phone calls. It does work, however, with Joying ROMs
Hope this helps
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I just installed my ga2114 and love it but also do not have Bluetooth audio working for calls. It works great for regular audio. What rom should I be running to fix it?
Also I notice a slight audio hiss. Did you experience that on your unit? It's not enough to drive me crazy but it's definitely there once the radio boots up. Aside from that, I love it so far.

glad to see some praise for these units, I had my eye on one from eonon

Android head unit: Access CANbus?

Hey,
Just got this android head unit then. Can't post links but its amazon dot co dot uk forward slash "gp/product/B0126T6O1G"
Pretty sick, I noticed in the 'Installed Apps' there is a system app called CANbus. I know the radio connects to the car's CANbus because there is a box behind the head unit as part of the ISO adapter, and it supports the steering wheel keys and stuff.
Wondering if it would be possible to get access to this interface through a custom app to control other things in the car. Eg lights, windows, etc.
I know I should be able to root it, I have read in forums it is possible just not tried it yet - need to check the build number.
It may just be for the steering wheel controls, maybe the box filters out the unneccesary ones or it only supports CAN for the steering wheel controls, but I am kinda interested to see what else could be done.

Did you get anywhere with this? I'd also be interested in the same thing. I'm planning to get a similar headunit.

cloakinghalk said:
Did you get anywhere with this? I'd also be interested in the same thing. I'm planning to get a similar headunit.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Post a link so we can see what head unit youre talking about.

typos1 said:
Did you get anywhere with this? I'd also be interested in the same thing. I'm planning to get a similar headunit.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi mate,
No I didn't really. I wasn't really sure how to go about it - apparently you can root some of the units (not sure if this one is included) but I didn't want to risk bricking a £280 head unit. And honestly if I were you I wouldn't bother buying the head unit at all either after having it for a while, here's why:
It takes about 30 seconds to boot each time which is a bit annoying if you just wanna get tunes on and drive off
The bluetooth quality is shocking, it sounds like you're on the phone to someone on a ****ty handsfree and drops out when you're playing tunes. Also doesn't support song information or album art over Bluetooth which is stupid.
The radio quality is **** and it forgets the stations if it's been off for a while - auto-seek doesn't really work very well either.
And the worst of all? After having it for about 9 months, I think the amp inside is basically fried. It cuts out randomly when driving or goes really quiet and crackly. I'm probably gonna sell it and just get a normal, non-android aftermarket unit so I can use my sub and all but otherwise it's definitely not worth what I spent on it. It feels like cheap Chinese knock off crap, which I kinda sussed before buying it anyway. But for real if I'd have known I'd have *steered* clear.
I mean yeah it's cool, but not 280 quid cool.
With regards to the CAN bus, the main thing I wanted to do was connect it up to the LED lights I have in the footwells and air vents, so it comes on with the rest of the car's lights. I did have some success with this by splicing one of the cables (I think it was orange?) from the CAN bus decoder box it comes with and connecting to a transistor. I guess you could splice different cables for different things, but it obviously isn't as great a solution as having a proper CAN bus interface. I'd recommend getting an Arduino and a CAN shield instead since this is going to be way more flexible for whatever it is you wanna do.
Hope this helps and let me know if you end up getting anywhere with your CAN hacking!
Brad

omgitsbrad said:
Hi mate,
No I didn't really. I wasn't really sure how to go about it - apparently you can root some of the units (not sure if this one is included) but I didn't want to risk bricking a £280 head unit. And honestly if I were you I wouldn't bother buying the head unit at all either after having it for a while, here's why:
It takes about 30 seconds to boot each time which is a bit annoying if you just wanna get tunes on and drive off
The bluetooth quality is shocking, it sounds like you're on the phone to someone on a ****ty handsfree and drops out when you're playing tunes. Also doesn't support song information or album art over Bluetooth which is stupid.
The radio quality is **** and it forgets the stations if it's been off for a while - auto-seek doesn't really work very well either.
And the worst of all? After having it for about 9 months, I think the amp inside is basically fried. It cuts out randomly when driving or goes really quiet and crackly. I'm probably gonna sell it and just get a normal, non-android aftermarket unit so I can use my sub and all but otherwise it's definitely not worth what I spent on it. It feels like cheap Chinese knock off crap, which I kinda sussed before buying it anyway. But for real if I'd have known I'd have *steered* clear.
I mean yeah it's cool, but not 280 quid cool.
With regards to the CAN bus, the main thing I wanted to do was connect it up to the LED lights I have in the footwells and air vents, so it comes on with the rest of the car's lights. I did have some success with this by splicing one of the cables (I think it was orange?) from the CAN bus decoder box it comes with and connecting to a transistor. I guess you could splice different cables for different things, but it obviously isn't as great a solution as having a proper CAN bus interface. I'd recommend getting an Arduino and a CAN shield instead since this is going to be way more flexible for whatever it is you wanna do.
Hope this helps and let me know if you end up getting anywhere with your CAN hacking!
Brad
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Youve messed up the quote - youve quoted someone else and somehow put my name on it. Also, no one knows what unit youre talking about cos youve not posted pics of your settings/about device screen . . .

typos1 said:
Youve messed up the quote - youve quoted someone else and somehow put my name on it. Also, no one knows what unit youre talking about cos youve not posted pics of your settings/about device screen . . .
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sorry mate. Don't have my car atm but the unit is this one: https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/Car-Vehi...edia-Vauxhall-Navigation-Subwoofer/B01CU5SUH2

omgitsbrad said:
Sorry mate. Don't have my car atm but the unit is this one: https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/Car-Vehi...edia-Vauxhall-Navigation-Subwoofer/B01CU5SUH2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Right, thats an MTCB/C unit, thread needs to be moved to the MTCB section.

typos1 said:
Right, thats an MTCB/C unit, thread needs to be moved to the MTCB section.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Okay sure.. What's that mean?

omgitsbrad said:
Okay sure.. What's that mean?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Whats what mean ?

Let's Talk About the Joying JY-UL135

So, this is one part commentary/review(ish), one part questions. Let's talk about this dude. So, I had a Pioneer DVD unit in my 2003 F-150 that I was really unhappy with (for several reasons I won't bother explaining). Being a bit of a tech geek, I really wanted something better, that wouldn't require an extra add on unit for navigation, and would give me a little flexibility wherever I wanted it. I was really surprised that there wasn't a better selection of head units that run Android on the market, but being such, I found Joying pretty fast. I read a bunch on here, and decided it was worth throwing the dice and a few hours at. FWIW, I ordered off Amazon, and got the JY-UL135 unit (Android 5.1.1, 7" screen, 1024x600, 16GB, 1.6GHz quad core). It seems Joying has a couple slightly different units with basically the same specs for sale. I have no idea what distinguishes them besides a slightly different bezel setup. I *think* this is the newer one. Maybe. Who knows.
Thoughts and Comments
Trust the reviews. This unit is a tiny bit bigger than it should be. I don't know why. So be it. So was my Pioneer though, but this is about another 1/8" wider, so I'll need to barely widen my already modified mounting hole.
Soldering up the wiring harness was no trouble. Uncommonly used wires were neatly capped too.
The instructions, labels, and some of the in-system notifications are in pretty rough translated English. Not a big deal, but just be aware.
If you want to do a custom boot logo, for some reason it's hidden behind the Factory Settings, with the code 126 to access it.
Unit feels plenty fast and responsive, and the build quality is acceptable at the price.
Wifi connected right up.
I did have trouble connecting to my Bluetooth OBD2 reader, which seems to be a common complaint. I'm ordering a $10 one that matches the Elm327 unit Joying offers for $20. We'll see if it works.
I prefer OBD Fusion over Torque, personally. Once the above is resolved, I'm interested to see how it compares on the unit.
Included GPS antenna has plenty of length, and seems to get a signal without issue.
I grounded the brake sensor wire right to the chassis ground line to bypass it, need to confirm that works.
Was able to pretty closely match the backlight color to the rest of my dash.
Going to use an old Micro SD card to try storing offline Google Maps data for those cellular black hole areas I travel to.
Also planning to get a dashcam to try out the DVR functionality. You never know when that could be $35 well spent.
Audio seems okay. Not great, but acceptable for my use. I do have one speaker not working that I need to diagnose. And I don't currently have an amp/sub, but do think I'll add a small one down the road.
Overall, I'm not in love with the launcher installed on it.
I still need to test phone mirroring, connecting via tethering to my phone's hotspot for nav data, install my backup camera, modify my external mic connector to be compatible with the input,
Questions for the Hive Mind
Does anyone know if these newer units benefit from the audio hack/mod discussed elsewhere?
Rooting. Do it, or no? If so, what's your preferred process?
What's your opinion on different launchers?
The Factory Settings menu appears to have quite a bit of stuff in it. Anything besides the boot logo really worth paying attention to?

i recently got the Jeep specific one from Amazon, Joying 5.1, should be the same stuff.
Pretty happy so far, I downloaded my city in Google Maps, but I didn't see an option to save it to a micro sd card. I didn't have to solder anything since I got vehicle specific, all plug and play. Also I used an adapter to use the Jeeps existing GPS. Fit and finish seems pretty top notch on mine, at least for the physical buttons.
I was considering rooting to try to do Apps2SD or something, I just want my Google Play Music playlists downloaded. I can do it, but it fills up the memory, and I dont have the option to put it on the micro sd card.
I was also confused by the Factory Settings options. There was an IPOD part listed as No. I changed it to YES and it gave me an ipod app, but it just immediately crashed, so I turned it back off.

CadillacMike said:
i recently got the Jeep specific one from Amazon, Joying 5.1, should be the same stuff.
Pretty happy so far, I downloaded my city in Google Maps, but I didn't see an option to save it to a micro sd card. I didn't have to solder anything since I got vehicle specific, all plug and play. Also I used an adapter to use the Jeeps existing GPS. Fit and finish seems pretty top notch on mine, at least for the physical buttons.
I was considering rooting to try to do Apps2SD or something, I just want my Google Play Music playlists downloaded. I can do it, but it fills up the memory, and I dont have the option to put it on the micro sd card.
I was also confused by the Factory Settings options. There was an IPOD part listed as No. I changed it to YES and it gave me an ipod app, but it just immediately crashed, so I turned it back off.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I didn't even actually realize they made brand specific models when I ordered mine, though I think outside of the wiring harness, that maybe doesn't matter. My truck is a 2003 too, so there really isn't anything in the way of fancy electronics in it to deal with, which probably helps.
I just got my backup cam mounted on my license plate, going out after work to wire it up hopefully. It's hot as hell here right now though, so we'll see how much I want to stay out there and do it with the sun still shining though.

CadillacMike said:
i recently got the Jeep specific one from Amazon, Joying 5.1, should be the same stuff.
Pretty happy so far, I downloaded my city in Google Maps, but I didn't see an option to save it to a micro sd card. I didn't have to solder anything since I got vehicle specific, all plug and play. Also I used an adapter to use the Jeeps existing GPS. Fit and finish seems pretty top notch on mine, at least for the physical buttons.
I was considering rooting to try to do Apps2SD or something, I just want my Google Play Music playlists downloaded. I can do it, but it fills up the memory, and I dont have the option to put it on the micro sd card.
I was also confused by the Factory Settings options. There was an IPOD part listed as No. I changed it to YES and it gave me an ipod app, but it just immediately crashed, so I turned it back off.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
IPOD I believe is quoted to not be working with that model.. How is the audio with the Jeep specific one? It looks just like the current 4.4 version and I was not sure if any hardware has changed. I was also looking at the 7in universal one that is mentioned by OP but wanted to know if it is better than the jeep specific one as far as audio hardware and sound. I know the screen size is smaller but was not sure if there is anything else. Any complaints so far on the 5.5 version of the Jeep one??

Airborne29th said:
IPOD I believe is quoted to not be working with that model.. How is the audio with the Jeep specific one? It looks just like the current 4.4 version and I was not sure if any hardware has changed. I was also looking at the 7in universal one that is mentioned by OP but wanted to know if it is better than the jeep specific one as far as audio hardware and sound. I know the screen size is smaller but was not sure if there is anything else. Any complaints so far on the 5.5 version of the Jeep one??
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I dont know anything about the 4.4 version. All i have is the 5.1 version, but i find that many complaints I read about these things are not evident in my version, so maybe stuff did change. For example people say you have to buy some antenna adapter, which I did not need, it had one in the box. FM radio sounds fine, although I dont listen to it. I just tried it so see what's up.
I have a 2016 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited, I had the 430N with the base audio. I had replaced the factory speakers with the Mopar Kicker upgrades. Sound is 100% better with the Joying.
I have a lot of details and pics here:
http://www.wranglerforum.com/f202/j...d-head-unit-joying-jeep-specific-1800113.html

I'm thinking about buying this head unit for my car, and I was wondering if anyone can give an input after a few months of usage.
What I'm worried about is the 1gb RAM , when there are new versions with 2GB of RAM
Do you think the 1GB is a deal breaker?
Thanks!

KamaL said:
I'm thinking about buying this head unit for my car, and I was wondering if anyone can give an input after a few months of usage.
What I'm worried about is the 1gb RAM , when there are new versions with 2GB of RAM
Do you think the 1GB is a deal breaker?
Thanks!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you dont mind things going slow, otherwise get the 2gb. Also, if you plan to use a dashcam and rexord, then def get a 2gb. I just ordered the UL135N2 this morning. Should get to my place in Wisconsin just after new years.

KamaL said:
I'm thinking about buying this head unit for my car, and I was wondering if anyone can give an input after a few months of usage.
What I'm worried about is the 1gb RAM , when there are new versions with 2GB of RAM
Do you think the 1GB is a deal breaker?
Thanks!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I upgraded the 1GB RAM unit I posted about earlier in this thread with a 2GB unit, it is night and day, no comparison, 2GB all the way

CadillacMike said:
I upgraded the 1GB RAM unit I posted about earlier in this thread with a 2GB unit, it is night and day, no comparison, 2GB all the way
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So, did you buy one 2gb ram model?
or replace with 1gb ram model??
I'm using 1gb ram model and I want to upgrade to 2gb ram.

Your F150 is a non-standard DIN fitting. It is about 2 mm too short (vertical face) for a standard 2-DIN head unit. No matter what unit you bought it will "appear" incorrect but it's really just Ford brilliantly coming up with their own size to be special.

David Choi said:
So, did you buy one 2gb ram model?
or replace with 1gb ram model??
I'm using 1gb ram model and I want to upgrade to 2gb ram.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I had a Jeep specific unit from Joying that was a MTCD, Android 5.1, and only 1GB of RAM. I loved it at the time.
I got a new unit. 8inch double din, Intel, and 2GB of RAM
I love the bigger screen, and the performance is no comparison

dunksalot said:
Your F150 is a non-standard DIN fitting. It is about 2 mm too short (vertical face) for a standard 2-DIN head unit. No matter what unit you bought it will "appear" incorrect but it's really just Ford brilliantly coming up with their own size to be special.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The Chinese units are not quite Double Din either. I know on the Jeep forums, every time someone puts in an American double din, people have to file things down to fit.
But when I put the Joying Double Din, it fit just fine, no filing required

CadillacMike said:
The Chinese units are not quite Double Din either. I know on the Jeep forums, every time someone puts in an American double din, people have to file things down to fit.
But when I put the Joying Double Din, it fit just fine, no filing required
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This is what you're looking for;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_7736
To summarize, USA double DIN = 7" x 4" (177.8mm x 101.6mm)
Metric double DIN = 180mm x 100mm (7.09" x 3.93").
In other words, the Metric double DIN is nearly 1/10th of an inch wider than a USA double DIN.
The Chinese head units are made to 178mm x 100mm for the UL135[N[2]] or 178mm x 102mm for the UL128[N[2]]. Don't ask me why they went for 102mm on the 128's. But essentially, the USA DDIN is just a little bit TOO NARROW for these head units, which seem to be targeting METRIC dimensions. Well, except for the 128's height, which is a bit closer to USA spec, but still marginally over.

Hello the team XDA,
I have mounted a joying UL-135 in a my car with a special harness.
I have a problem with the sleep mode. Head unit never shut down completely.
When a turn off the keycar, head unit shut down...then after few minutes, touch lights are shuting down too.
Then it's impossible to turn on the head unit.
After a night of parking, when i turn on the car, head unit start quickly to the previous postition without booting from Logo.
Do you have a solution ? i have tried to enter in the developer menu but it needs a password and i dont have it ?

waloof said:
Hello the team XDA,
I have mounted a joying UL-135 in a my car with a special harness.
I have a problem with the sleep mode. Head unit never shut down completely.
When a turn off the keycar, head unit shut down...then after few minutes, touch lights are shuting down too.
Then it's impossible to turn on the head unit.
After a night of parking, when i turn on the car, head unit start quickly to the previous postition without booting from Logo.
Do you have a solution ? i have tried to enter in the developer menu but it needs a password and i dont have it ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Is it a UL135? Or is it a UL135N or UL135N2? The latter two will deep sleep when the ignition is turned off, allowing them to start up *instantly* when the power is resumed. Your description of device behavior is consistent with N[2] units. In fact, I'm not even sure it is possible for a UL135 to do what you describe, since if it wasn't shutting down, the screen would remain on.

sorry it's the JY-UL135N

Anyone been able to root the UL135? I don't have the factory settings menu.. So I have no idea what to do..

Honda HR-V Dasaita HA5248-V480-8 Android Head Unit impressions

I was not sure where to post this because I kindof hijacked the Honda Connect Android thread with alternative solutions so I decided to create a new thread here as it seems more apropriate. I hope this will help others decide on an aftermarket unit that suit their needs.
The unit I bought and pictures with comments.
01.11.2018
I forgot to mention, there are no issues with porlarized sunglasses (vision impaired like I have, or regular). Usually LCD screens are polarized so if you have polarized glasses you only see the full display colors and brightness at a fixed angle 0 or 90 degrees (head straight or tilted to one side). This unit does not suffer from this issue like older phones did. (after posting I noticed I did mention this in my previous note )
28.10.2018
I'm really happy with the unit:
- response time is as fast as you expect it to be (as in touch - do stuff vs. click - you got it, hold on it's comming, almost there, just keep spinning windows/macos stuff)
- display is bright/direct sunlight, polarized sunglasses not an issue
- you can disable most of the inputs that source (steerwheel button) cycles through, except of A/V in (which I think is the LaneWatch camera)
- switching between radio, music, Waze and other apps is instant
- Waze only crashed once during a 450km ride, in the same area it crashes on my phone as well ... really Google ?
In the end I guess it's all about personal prefference about the preinstalled software which you can replace with apps from play store (or other sources) to your liking, so I'm not gonna comment on that as most of the defaults are fine for me it's fine. There are however a vew caveats to consider:
- Since I don't use my google account and created a new one for the unit I don't have access to my contacts. Altho the unit syncs your contacts via bluetooth to the phone app, 'OK Google' cannot use that.
- The default phone app does not have any favourites options, so your best bet is to use the last recent calls. But that list is not synced with your phone, it's only the list from when your phone was connected with the car (tried MTCDTelephonyBridge, did not work).
- There are some volume issues which I could not figure out (yet ). Navigation volume is set on MIXIN and has a range from -10 to + 10. At first I had it on -5, it was very low, then I moved to +7, fine for a while until it became too loud, lowerd to +5 and it was very low, bumped it again to +7 and it was the same low. I wish they would do the 'smart' thing like the original HU and just output navigation to front left speaker (that's the only clever thing I noticed in the decade old default Honda unit)
- Only one screw can be used to fix the unit, the original ones don't fit as they have huge integrated washers. You don't really need to fix it as it won't go anywhere but still, worth mentioning. Also I wanted to insulate all the cables with the same kind of foam that you find around air conditioning pipes, so that the cables don't touch the back plate of the unit. After taking the dashboard off again, I realized there is a ton of space there so the cables will not touch the back of the unit holding the radiator, which anyway is just for the TDA amp, so there was no reason to. If you go for a 2din unit, extra space will be smaller but still plenty of room on the bottom part.
24.10.2018
A few notes of my initial experience after installing the new unit:
1. First and most important for me, the 2 USB ports of the car have different connectors (mindblown). They look the same, but one of them has a different gap (or slit, not sure of the exact word) in one of the corners as you can see in this picture. The adapter provided only fits the gray connector. I'm not sure if the 2nd adapter that I ordered will fit the green one or not (maybe with some tunning it will fit). Now, it's not that important for everyone as you can still very easy pull the 2 other USB ports in the glove compartment (which I did), but now I have 2 unused slots: USB and HDMI.
2. For OCD types, the unit I got has a 9" screen (instead of 8" as described) so the frame that holds the part of the dashboard that you need to remove in order to install the HU stands on top of the screen covering the right part of the screen bezel and the 2nd mic instead of being around the screen (I hope that makes sense). The front pannel itself (bezels included) is a bit larger than the hole in the dashboard. This results in the actual screen being buried about 1cm below the dashboard line (about 5mm more than the original one). This interfeers a bit with the access to the 'hardware' buttons on the left side, but as a driver you don't need them as you can do all that from the steering wheel controlls. One side benefit could be that there is less sunlight hitting the screen. I will update with daytime pictures.
3. There are only 2 screws that can fix the new unit, but the original ones don't fit because of the embeded washers (which can not be removed from the screws ... why ????). The unit will not go anyware thanks to the fitting holes and the dashboard being linked with frame I mentioned before. I will still go look for some replacement screws, just in case.
4. Time for the good part. The difference between the original unit and this one ... day and night. Everithing is so fast and works as it's supposed to. Even the cold boot seems faster (20s or so) than the hot start of the original unit. I still have to test the ergonomics while driving and the long term stability of the whole system, but the first impressions are very positive. You would still have to configure a few things here and there to match you preferences or missing features (like proportion between navigation and music and sound level for different sources - like music and bluetooth, missing lane watch camera - which defaults to on and when you signal right unit will show a warning because of missing camera signal, direction lines when using the reverse camera - which are off by default etc.). There are a ton of options to configure. Plus you get some extra stuff like status of open doors, status of parking sensors, AC feedback (it also has an app for control but does not seem to do anything, I will dig deeper at some point but I don't find it that usefull, still cool tho), automatic door locking when you pass a set speed limit (I have not tested this yet), and probably some others which I am eager to discover.
I will update this post to share my experience with the new unit.

kind3r said:
I was not sure where to post this because I kindof hijacked the Honda Connect Android thread with alternative solutions so I decided to create a new thread here as it seems more apropriate. I hope this will help others decide on an aftermarket unit that suit their needs.
The unit I bought and pictures with comments.
24.10.2018
A few notes of my initial experience after installing the new unit:
1. First and most important for me, the 2 USB ports of the car have different connectors (mindblown). They look the same, but one of them has a different gap (or slit, not sure of the exact word) in one of the corners as you can see in this picture. The adapter provided only fits the gray connector. I'm not sure if the 2nd adapter that I ordered will fit the green one or not (maybe with some tunning it will fit). Now, it's not that important for everyone as you can still very easy pull the 2 other USB ports in the glove compartment (which I did), but now I have 2 unused slots: USB and HDMI.
2. For OCD types, the unit I got has a 9" screen (instead of 8" as described) so the frame that holds the part of the dashboard that you need to remove in order to install the HU stands on top of the screen covering the right part of the screen bezel and the 2nd mic instead of being around the screen (I hope that makes sense). The front pannel itself (bezels included) is a bit larger than the hole in the dashboard. This results in the actual screen being buried about 1cm below the dashboard line (about 5mm more than the original one). This interfeers a bit with the access to the 'hardware' buttons on the left side, but as a driver you don't need them as you can do all that from the steering wheel controlls. One side benefit could be that there is less sunlight hitting the screen. I will update with daytime pictures.
3. There are only 2 screws that can fix the new unit, but the original ones don't fit because of the embeded washers (which can not be removed from the screws ... why ????). The unit will not go anyware thanks to the fitting holes and the dashboard being linked with frame I mentioned before. I will still go look for some replacement screws, just in case.
4. Time for the good part. The difference between the original unit and this one ... day and night. Everithing is so fast and works as it's supposed to. Even the cold boot seems faster (20s or so) than the hot start of the original unit. I still have to test the ergonomics while driving and the long term stability of the whole system, but the first impressions are very positive. You would still have to configure a few things here and there to match you preferences or missing features (like proportion between navigation and music and sound level for different sources - like music and bluetooth, missing lane watch camera - which defaults to on and when you signal right unit will show a warning because of missing camera signal, direction lines when using the reverse camera - which are off by default etc.). There are a ton of options to configure. Plus you get some extra stuff like status of open doors, status of parking sensors, AC feedback (it also has an app for control but does not seem to do anything, I will dig deeper at some point but I don't find it that usefull, still cool tho), automatic door locking when you pass a set speed limit (I have not tested this yet), and probably some others which I am eager to discover.
I will update this post to share my experience with the new unit.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Are you sure you asked for the correct unit or dasaita sent to you the correct unit?
Enviado desde mi SM-G950F mediante Tapatalk

ikerg said:
Are you sure you asked for the correct unit or dasaita sent to you the correct unit?
Enviado desde mi SM-G950F mediante Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Could you be more specific ? There is a link to the unit I bought and pictures in the first post. I asked the seller about compatibility and other stuff before purchasing and he assured me that all is ok. I'm not saing I'm not happy with the unit, the small differences don't bother me, but others might be bugged by those details. Overall I'm just sharing my experience while highlighting differences between expectations (aka product description) and reality

@ kind3r: bought one for my CRV also.. got the same issue with those 3 connections I think its the 2 usb & 1 hdmi connection in the console box of our car. I'm currently looking for a solution for the AC control, and IMID display setting for the steering wheel. I haven't really tinkered with the setting so maybe its just setting or connection issue. Could you pls. update me if you discover the AC thing or other features that you have unlock with your unit.

Is the wheel button works good??

hafidelbazdari said:
Is the weel button works good??
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What's a weel button?
Gesendet von meinem Redmi Note 5 mit Tapatalk

Wifi and Bluetooth..how to they going for you..
Internal speaker for hands free or using external?
What phone are you connecting to it..apple or Android?

kind3r said:
....the 2 USB ports of the car have different connectors...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Maybe that's because one is for charging? So they separated them via different connectors.
kind3r said:
2. For OCD types, the unit I got has a 9" screen (instead of 8" as described)...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
At the Dasaita Official Store they sell it as a 9" unit.
At the MTKNAVI Store they sell the "same" units.
Main advantage of MTKNAVI store: they ship from EU/Germany. Means no trouble about custom and taxes.
Thanks a lot for creating this thread. I am looking forward to hearing and seeing more from your Dasaita/HR-V experience.

HNDXCRV said:
@ kind3r: bought one for my CRV also.. got the same issue with those 3 connections I think its the 2 usb & 1 hdmi connection in the console box of our car. I'm currently looking for a solution for the AC control, and IMID display setting for the steering wheel. I haven't really tinkered with the setting so maybe its just setting or connection issue. Could you pls. update me if you discover the AC thing or other features that you have unlock with your unit.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think it's just so that they only fit one way so service people don't reverse them. Both did the same charging and connection, mirrorlink etc. so I can't really tell if there is actually a difference between them.
The only way I see a connection with the IMID display (mine is next to the speedometer) is via the canbus. I think that traffic is encrypted tho because I saw no mention about it anywhere so far. I'm not even sure if you can set the clock. I will do some more research on the subject.
My unit has an AC app, but it does not control anything. I will dig into that as well, tho I don't find it useful.
hafidelbazdari said:
Is the wheel button works good??
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, all wheel buttons work but some with different functions. Hangup button also works as back, source switches between a lot of (some useless for me) apps like the ones for AV inputs but the navigation app is not included (I wish you could set a list of apps to cycle through), the task switcher that used to switch between nav, audio and phone now is the home button, the shortcut button acts as the old android menu button and the voice command does mute. There is no long press 2nd function except for left and right in radio app. I guess installing MTCDTools could improve the situation but I'm ok with the standard config.
dgcruzing said:
Wifi and Bluetooth..how to they going for you..
Internal speaker for hands free or using external?
What phone are you connecting to it..apple or Android?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I use a phone that sits in the truck for internet via WiFi, no issues so far. For bluetooth/handsfree I use an iPhone, sound quaility is very good both ways, way better than the stock one. Time will tell.
I'm not sure what you mean by internal speaker. It uses the car sound system and speakers and I also connected the external mic that came with the unit and placed it close to the ignition button.
Manfred.62 said:
Maybe that's because one is for charging? So they separated them via different connectors.
At the Dasaita Official Store they sell it as a 9" unit.
At the MTKNAVI Store they sell the "same" units.
Main advantage of MTKNAVI store: they ship from EU/Germany. Means no trouble about custom and taxes.
Thanks a lot for creating this thread. I am looking forward to hearing and seeing more from your Dasaita/HR-V experience.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah, the taxes thing was a big advantage for me as they usually ship with DHL so you have to pay custom tax and also DHL tax for handling custom tax for you. My unit was shipped from UK, still EU for the next 6 month or so . Also I initially wrote to Dasaita Official Store and I still have not got a reply. MTKNAVI replied within a few hours.

kind3r said:
I think it's just so that they only fit one way so service people don't reverse them. Both did the same charging and connection, mirrorlink etc. so I can't really tell if there is actually a difference between them.
The only way I see a connection with the IMID display (mine is next to the speedometer) is via the canbus. I think that traffic is encrypted tho because I saw no mention about it anywhere so far. I'm not even sure if you can set the clock. I will do some more research on the subject.
My unit has an AC app, but it does not control anything. I will dig into that as well, tho I don't find it useful.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
wanted to change the date & time in my IMID display thats why im looking for workaround.. AC app? what's the name of the app? is it built in? i want to see the climate settings for novelty

kind3r said:
I think it's just so that they only fit one way so service people don't reverse them. Both did the same charging and connection, mirrorlink etc. so I can't really tell if there is actually a difference between them.
The only way I see a connection with the IMID display (mine is next to the speedometer) is via the canbus. I think that traffic is encrypted tho because I saw no mention about it anywhere so far. I'm not even sure if you can set the clock. I will do some more research on the subject.
My unit has an AC app, but it does not control anything. I will dig into that as well, tho I don't find it useful.
Yes, all wheel buttons work but some with different functions. Hangup button also works as back, source switches between a lot of (some useless for me) apps like the ones for AV inputs but the navigation app is not included (I wish you could set a list of apps to cycle through), the task switcher that used to switch between nav, audio and phone now is the home button, the shortcut button acts as the old android menu button and the voice command does mute. There is no long press 2nd function except for left and right in radio app. I guess installing MTCDTools could improve the situation but I'm ok with the standard config.
I use a phone that sits in the truck for internet via WiFi, no issues so far. For bluetooth/handsfree I use an iPhone, sound quaility is very good both ways, way better than the stock one. Time will tell.
I'm not sure what you mean by internal speaker. It uses the car sound system and speakers and I also connected the external mic that came with the unit and placed it close to the ignition button.
Yeah, the taxes thing was a big advantage for me as they usually ship with DHL so you have to pay custom tax and also DHL tax for handling custom tax for you. My unit was shipped from UK, still EU for the next 6 month or so . Also I initially wrote to Dasaita Official Store and I still have not got a reply. MTKNAVI replied within a few hours.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hello, For the bluetooth connection, did you use the built-in microphone of the car? if so, Did you add an adapter to operate the integrated microphone of the car?

hafidelbazdari said:
Hello, For the bluetooth connection, did you use the built-in microphone of the car? if so, Did you add an adapter to operate the integrated microphone of the car?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No, I used the external mic provided with the new unit.

kind3r said:
No, I used the external mic provided with the new unit.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Can you send me please a picture of this mic?

hafidelbazdari said:
Can you send me please a picture of this mic?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You can see it in this picture on the left side (near the speedometer): https://photos.google.com/share/AF1...?key=cy04WUVYY3RrYTBYSXM0Q1RjSFEzd2RNM1h1ZEd3
Also you can see it in the description of the Dasaita unit at Aliexpress.

Manfred.62 said:
You can see it in this picture on the left side (near the speedometer): https://photos.google.com/share/AF1...?key=cy04WUVYY3RrYTBYSXM0Q1RjSFEzd2RNM1h1ZEd3
Also you can see it in the description of the Dasaita unit at Aliexpress.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ok thank you, if we have any idea to hide it .it will be better . What the you think?

hafidelbazdari said:
Ok thank you, if we have any idea to hide it .it will be better . What the you think?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Using adapter cables. So one can use the inbuilt microphone and GPS module. We just have to find the correct cables via ebay, Aliexpress...
@kind3r
did you found a connector at the Dasaita harness with 12pin (instead of 14pin at EU version of Connect unit)? That must be connector D in the attached file. Found this info in a german HRV forum. He didn't use this connector (no problems so far).

hafidelbazdari said:
Can you send me please a picture of this mic?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sligthly better bicture of the mic in the final position.

Manfred.62 said:
Using adapter cables. So one can use the inbuilt microphone and GPS module. We just have to find the correct cables via ebay, Aliexpress...
@kind3r
did you found a connector at the Dasaita harness with 12pin (instead of 14pin at EU version of Connect unit)? That must be connector D in the attached file. Found this info in a german HRV forum. He didn't use this connector (no problems so far).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Wow, nice find. I was actually looking for that before buying a unit but could not find any schematics.
The back pannel arrangement of the connectors is not similar to my original unit see a picture of the back of mine here, but connectors seem to be more or less the same. Now, not all the connectors on the car have a corespondend on the harness and viceversa. The connector you are reffering to must be the Sirius XM receiver (? satelite radio) which as far as I know is not available in EU. Also, the USB connectors look the same in your document but in my case they are a bit different by just a small notch. What is the functionality you are interested in so I can tell you if it works for me or not.
On a side note, I have tested the unit during the last few days using the auto sleep feature, witch does not do a shutdown + cold boot so the unit starts in 1-2 seconds after you start the car. There is still a small delay after that when you get notifications about the SD card and USB stick that are being mounted so that's another 2-3 seconds until playback resumes, so it's still faster than the cold boot which takes around 25 seconds. But as android tends to be like windows on the long term, I will stick with the cold boot 'mode'.
As @HNDXCRV and others mentioned, I could not find a way to set the clock on the factory display. But as DST changed in my country, with a big bang I might add (earthquake during the night, could not sleep after that :/) to my surprise the car's clock changed as well. So I guess there is some communication from the HU, at least for time. My guess is playing in Factory Settings could result in AC being controlled from the unit as well. But I don't really see the point in doing that since dedicated hardware buttons are better than touching a display.
Some were concerned about the performance of the display in direct sunlight. Today was a sunny day, I took a trip to the seaside and I can tell you I had no issues looking at the display with my polarised sunglases on. Also the angle of the polarisation did not seem to matter as tilting my head did not do anything to the brightness level or colors, so kudos for that, it's a really nice display. At some point I was looking through the settings and realized it was only at 75% brightness.
Overall I really love this unit. Of course it's not perfect and there is some room for improvement here and there, but there are no words to describe the difference of (first and foremost for me) performance, sound quality, level of customization, size and quality of the display. Most of the small things that bother me are due to software ergonomics say like the radio app having a dedicated button for stereo lock, instead of something more useful (not that anything comes to mind right now). You have to customize a bit to your liking, I have uninstalled/disabled apps that cycle via the source button on the steering wheel, changed the volumes of navigation, radio, music, a2dp etc. to my personal preference. Also there are a ton of replacement apps for the stock ones, play store is full of choices if you have enough time to try them out, like launchers, dialers, music apps etc.
I still have to update to the latest Android version (unit came with 20180809, latest is 20181011, but with newer MCU 2.98_1) but since there is no reason to, I will hold off for the moment. I am tempted to do a full reset of the unit as there are some leftovers from the seller testing the unit like paierd phones etc. (not that it matters too much).

@kind3r
thanks a lot for your infos. Seems like this device is really worth it. I can not decide yet.
What I like to do if...
connect the original GPS (via adapter, found in ebay)
connect the original microphone (via adapter, not found yet)
Questions:
the radio has RDS fully working (channel names, radio text, traffic TP/TA) ?
is the Dasaita usable without internet connection (only radio or mp3) or does it throw error messages?
does "Ok Google" work? Or do we need the MtcDialer
Because of updates: maybe it's best to do it at the beginning.

For the GPS adaptor it will still take around 2 weeks to get to me so I can post some feedback about it.
I could not find any reference in the connectors for the integrated mic. I'm not sure if an adapter exists. At first I thought this will bother me but it tursn out it's not really that big of a deal. Sound quality is way better than with the original mic/HU combination.
RDS is working but unfortunatelly I cannot test traffic as it is not available in my country. The radio app has switches to enable disable TA and TP but since there is no broadcast for that ... they don't do anything for me.
It should not throw errors without an internet connection but for me the whole point was to use it with Waze for the realtime traffic information. There is a version of iGO preinstalled with Europe maps on an 8G SD card. I will probably buy a bigger card that can fit the iGO maps and music so I have an offline navigation as a backup just in case.
'OK Google' is working but unfortunatelly I think it uses the contacts from the google account and does not use the contacts synced via bluetooth from the paired phone. Since I created a new account for the car I don't have any contacts but I will add some just to test. MTCDialer did not work for me, it always crashes on launch.

Mercedes ml350 (2006) with Harmon Kardin. All working but Steering wheel and CANBUS connection.

I just purchased a very cheap chinese android head unit from walmart.com (The price seems to have dropped even further, if it's the same one) and have it all installed in my ML350. I purchased, separately, an Optical Decoder box and have it also installed. I'm getting audio just fine (although of course it's just dropped to left and right..lost my full surround) but my steering wheel controls aren't working, nor is the CANBUS seeming to work. It's got a "Oudi" branded canbus decoder (Or at least the box is printed as one).
I don't see any Key1 or Key2, SWC or similar wires. The head unit is advertised as working with Steering wheel controls and canbus functions. From what I've read thus far, it's supposed to be able to communicate with canbus as is. It has 2 very long wires, Can-H and Can-L in addition to the ones that plugged into the harness..I don't think I had to do anything with them but I did see where someoene else having the same type ran them under the glove box to the long caterpillar like connection bar for Can-H and Can-L within the system. That didn't make any difference. I see some harnesses have a 2.5mm stereo jack to plug into the head unit also for steering controls but this doesn't have that etiher. Most seem to say that since the unit has steering learning that it all works through the canbus.
I've checked all pinouts and from what I can tell I've got them all correct. The can l and h were in wrong spots when I got it but got that fixed and at least the stereo is working.
Radio reception is less than spectacular, but it works. The stereo came with the adapter for that. My vehicle of course has that antenna amp on the back hatch under the window..always worked before. Also curious why this signal gets so back with that simple antenna adapter?
Anyhow, I'm overall happy with the unit (a bit slow at times, being a 1Gx16G model bug but handling that)
I've been in communication with the seller who keeps asking for videos, pics, and now wants me to purchase a new canbus at "any parts store" locally to try and they'll reimburse me. I dont' see anywhere that you can buy a canbus decoder anywhere locally.
I have such a hard time finding anyone with the same radio/wiring harness and this vehicle and can't understand why I'm having such issues with the installation SEEMS so simple. Yes I've gone into Protocol Settings in System settings and set to the "oudi" decoder. It only has 2 options. Mercedes-Smart, and Mercedes Fully Compatible. Neither works. It saves, doesn't require restart but I've tried rebooting as well. Even shutting off car when the radio is rebooting and starting it all together again.
Has anyone had any luck like choosing a different CANBUS? Like is it even worth going through them all? Surely the oudi box doesnt' have different hardware inside that might still work, but not be "oudi"?
I check data, etc I just get "no original vehicle setting function"

Did you ask the corresponding sellers about the matched CANBUS when you buy the android head unit? I've also been through this before, I purechased an aftermarket headunit from a Chinese brand called ATOTO, and I purchased their headunit for its affordable price, everything worked great, good connection to my phone, huge 10.1 inch screen display and good sound quality except the SWC interface. I have triple checked the connections and have tried two different Canbus interfaces that I have, and have tried both the key wires and the 3.5mm jack, the SWC interface simply doesn't work.
Then I contacted their support team and they also told me to buy a new canbus, and they told me to search on http://www.metraonline.com and https://pac-audio.com/, finally I got a new canbus and problem solved.
Hope this may help.

I have .. but they've been just.. run around after run around .asking for videos, pictures, wiring diagrams... Finally they say that it doesn't communicate with the Mercedes I this model....but ..it literally is custom bezeled for my model..comes with canbus decoder...states in the title of the item on walmart.com as for my particular video and that it keeps original steering wheel button function and all other factory features and canbus connection. So they're just lying to keep from having to send another canbus. Now just telling me to pack it up nicely and ship it back within 24 hours with tracking number to get refund. Heh.ill definitely check out your links tho! Thank you!

skybase said:
I have .. but they've been just.. run around after run around .asking for videos, pictures, wiring diagrams... Finally they say that it doesn't communicate with the Mercedes I this model....but ..it literally is custom bezeled for my model..comes with canbus decoder...states in the title of the item on walmart.com as for my particular video and that it keeps original steering wheel button function and all other factory features and canbus connection. So they're just lying to keep from having to send another canbus. Now just telling me to pack it up nicely and ship it back within 24 hours with tracking number to get refund. Heh.ill definitely check out your links tho! Thank you!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm sorry for that bro! If the headunit you bought is an universal one then it should be compatible with most of the cars. Good luck and wish you can get this thing fixed soon!

WhiteSky0719 said:
I'm sorry for that bro! If the headunit you bought is an universal one then it should be compatible with most of the cars. Good luck and wish you can get this thing fixed soon!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I find a kit (Best Buy has the same one I see, but it'll cost me $400 (at best buy) or over $600 on this site...for a $100 radio..damn..... haha weird thing though is that I don't think I have any SWC wires or 2.5mm jack or anything like that on the radio. Supposedly it worked through the Canbus...but...these kits all have that separate box as well. So....solution$$$ haha Thank you for this site though. It definitely reinforced for me the kit that I'm just gonna have to get. Plus side, I need this kit for ANY stereo I put in. Regardless if Android, no name or brand name standard deck.

skybase said:
I find a kit (Best Buy has the same one I see, but it'll cost me $400 (at best buy) or over $600 on this site...for a $100 radio..damn..... haha weird thing though is that I don't think I have any SWC wires or 2.5mm jack or anything like that on the radio. Supposedly it worked through the Canbus...but...these kits all have that separate box as well. So....solution$$$ haha Thank you for this site though. It definitely reinforced for me the kit that I'm just gonna have to get. Plus side, I need this kit for ANY stereo I put in. Regardless if Android, no name or brand name standard deck.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Oh.... that's.... well you can also go check eBay, cheaper than most of shopping site, forget about the cheap **** it provides, the kits and hrness there should be cheaper. $400 is too much for a kit... If next time you need to upgrade another headunit, except Pioneer, Kenwood,etc. you can definitely go and try the brand atoto, although it is also a Chinese brand, happy with their serivice for now. Don't give up so soon bro! Try eBay again for the kits, lol.