UCH10 Fast charging not working - Xperia Z5 Premium Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have just bought the UCH10 from Sony to try out on the fast charging, its seems charging at the same rate as a regular 2.1A Charger.. Anyone facing this issue?

finoqq84 said:
I have just bought the UCH10 from Sony to try out on the fast charging, its seems charging at the same rate as a regular 2.1A Charger.. Anyone facing this issue?
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I don't know about the UCH10, but I know with my Powergen charger I see it going into HV (fast charge) mode. (The charger I have has an indicator for when it's in 9v mode).
However, I have noticed this device's thermal throttling is pretty aggressive. You need to let the thing idle if you expect it to charge at any reasonable rate thanks to the Snapdragon 810 being a power hog.

Confimed the UCh10 charger fast charge working
Only got 13% from 1% for 15mins
What happened!!

Mine came with the UCH10 charger and am using my short Sony usb cable that came with my headset (EC300). I went from 4% to 100% in 1 hour and 35 mins. At the end of the day with my bluetooth headset and smart watch conneted all day (12 hours) moderate use emails,mms,calls. I have about 42% remaining. It only seams to be getting better with each charge. Today it went from 5% to 100% in 1 hour and 22 mins.

Perheps Sony's fast charging is to speed up overall charging at a faster rate. As i was from Note 5, its charging takes only 10 mins to jump from 5% to 38%!!
Perheps they are both using different fast charging tech?

finoqq84 said:
Perheps Sony's fast charging is to speed up overall charging at a faster rate. As i was from Note 5, its charging takes only 10 mins to jump from 5% to 38%!!
Perheps they are both using different fast charging tech?
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Both are using the same under different names. Samsung named it "Adaptive fast charging" and the rest use qualcomm's name "Quick charge".
For example mine is in the box with standard 1.5 normal charger, but I am using the charger from my dead note 4 (yes it is a quick charger one) which is charging z5p at the same speed like my note 4. Also I am monittoring the charge rate, and I can confirm that samis Adaptive charger charging at max using qualcomm's quick charge standard our z5p devices.
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If note 5 charging so fast it must be another tech from Samsung (or wrong battery stats - believe me I experienced these few times on my note 4 during flashing AOSP roms).
Cheers
Edit 2:
I can remember that note 4 when stock (tw) is charging much more aggressively during initial charge (upto around 50%, and then it just slow down), while AOSP is fast charging constantly (lower rate compared to samis stock tw rom) but use quck charge upto 90-95%.. It is a setting at the end. Yoi can force set this with custom kernel.

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Tab S Charging Problem

Hi.
I have owned my SM-T700 for about a year now and its a beautiful tablet! But after updating my firmware to 5.0.2, i have had a problem that really messes up my time with the tablet.
My tablet has slow charging. Like extremely slow. After the update, it usually took around 9 hours to charge completely when at around 30% of battery. Now when I charge it, It only charges around 5% per hour!
I used the app called Amperes to measure my charging rate and it was at 750mA but then dropped to 30mA. I tried resolving the issue by switching to 4.4.2 but I cannot find the XAC version of it unfortunately. Also,
I am not using the samsung charger that came with the device, I am using the samsung charger for my broken s3 but it says that they take in the same amount of mA. I also tried with my cousins tab s charger to no avail.
Thanks! I would be grateful for any help!
Are you using original or hi-quality cables with a real 2.0 amp charger?
I've a Tab S 10.5 LTE updated to Lollipop from the first day I bought it, so I'm not sure if the charging speed differs from KitKat.
When using the original 2.0 amp charger and cable I've noticed that the charge is slower while I'm activelly using the tablet, but that means about 12% hour rate.
If I try with another Samsung charger rated at 0.7 amp it can recharge the tablet slowly and only when it's idle, or just slow down the battery discharge if I'm activelly using the tablet.
I consider this normal, as the tablet can easily surpass 1 amp discharge rate when the display, cpu, radios are all busy.
To get full charge rate of 1800mah , I normally see 1500mah/1600mah you need to use the original Samsung 5.3v 2amp charger and original cable as a lot of third-party charger will only charge slowly as the Tab S cannot recognize the charger is powerful enough, so it only uses a slow charge so not to damage the charger, even with the original charger after the battery reaches 80% fast charge stops and it is normal for the charger to use lower and lower ma as it reaches 100%
John.

Fast charging support?

Can i use my old moto turbo charger for fast charging ?
Which is 12v*1.5amps ..
Tried mine and no same charging speed
You can use it but it won't "fast charge". The Honor 7X isn't a "fast charge" device.
BUT (yes there is always a but), use the provided plug... it's a 2A output. It will charge a little bit faster with it than ith your 1.5A one.
Sadly no fast charging, takes me 3.5-4 hours to charge regardless of what charger I use.
My other phone only takes 1 hour 30 minutes...
Wow..
kanej2006 said:
Sadly no fast charging, takes me 3.5-4 hours to charge regardless of what charger I use.
My other phone only takes 1 hour 30 minutes...
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In The United States of America BND-L24... You are looking at 2.5 hours max. from 0 to 100%.
I'm usually, 4 hours S.O.T. a day average and still @ 50+ %..... only once have I drained it in 2 long days.. but I pretty much watched a movie.. made a sandwich and it was @ 100% again.
kanej2006 said:
Sadly no fast charging, takes me 3.5-4 hours to charge regardless of what charger I use.
My other phone only takes 1 hour 30 minutes...
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Carefull to the USB wire you are using. They have not the same caracteristics.
I've bought one without reading... and it can't charge any device faster than... 0.5A... So my new 7X or even my old HONOR 7 just discharge faster than it charge...
patbol1 said:
Carefull to the USB wire you are using. They have not the same caracteristics.
I've bought one without reading... and it can't charge any device faster than... 0.5A... So my new 7X or even my old HONOR 7 just discharge faster than it charge...
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Yes, you are right in that regard, like trying to force extra charge when it cannot do so.
I did however purchase a new usb cable 2.0A and it does charge slightly faster, around 3 hours instead of 4...
I've lost my honour 7x original charger
Please suggest me which charger should I use
Use 5v 2A charger
Asang jamir said:
I've lost my honour 7x original charger
Please suggest me which charger should I use
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Use any 5V 2A charger or if available buy ERD 5V 2A charger it would be cheap and best

slow charging

Ok so tmobile lg g8 wont charge up above 980ma current regardless of the charger or cables used and regardless of the battery level. So basically charging at less than 4 watts total. My one plus 6t will do at least 12 to 15 watts low battery charging.
What gives???
You might have a defective unit. I don't have any measurements, but my T-Mobile unit charges quickly with both OEM and third party chargers.
Ok did a test in stock charger took 1 hour 42 minutes to fully charge. Whats anyone else getting?
madcowintucson said:
Ok so tmobile lg g8 wont charge up above 980ma current regardless of the charger or cables used and regardless of the battery level. So basically charging at less than 4 watts total. My one plus 6t will do at least 12 to 15 watts low battery charging.
What gives???
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Could be the Optimized charging option in Setting/Battery. Uncheck and try again. This will slowly charge the phone to prevent unnecessary overheat and prolong the battery lifespan.
That option was turned off
madcowintucson said:
Ok did a test in stock charger took 1 hour 42 minutes to fully charge. Whats anyone else getting?
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Hi
I've not got the phone but as the charger isn't a proprietary one like Huawei and OnePlus the average charging time is about right. I had the HTC U11+ which had the same charger Quick Charge 3.0 and took over 1 hour 30 to charge.
Currently have an OnePlus 6T and the charger we get will charge the phone in over an hour.
madcowintucson said:
Ok so tmobile lg g8 wont charge up above 980ma current regardless of the charger or cables used and regardless of the battery level. So basically charging at less than 4 watts total. My one plus 6t will do at least 12 to 15 watts low battery charging.
What gives???
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Are you measuring the charge rate with the screen on? If so then that's your problem. Charging is limited to 5W when the screen is on to limit heat buildup. You'll need something like 3C battery monitor to record the rate when the screen is off. I've attached an example of my V40 charging on my Anker Powerwave 7.5 stand. With a wired fast charger it tops out at 2600ma.View attachment 4750253
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Question S22 Base Charging Confusion / Poor Charge Speed

I have had my S22 base for about a week, and while I am still concerned with the life I'm getting (same apps and usage pattern, about 4+ hours of SOT and 15 hours of mixed use) vs the S9, I had decided to keep it until ...
I can't get the thing to super/fast charge. I do not have a Samsung charger (waiting until I get my voucher) but do have a number of 15W and 25W PD-compliant chargers that work on everything from my S9 to my laptop. Unless I turn the phone off, all of those chargers charge S22 at a rate of 10-20% per hour, with Accubattery readings in the 200-1100 maH range, NEVER a value over that. The battery temp and voltage are well in spec. It is currently plugged into my laptop PD compliant charger at a rate of 900 mA with a "time to 100%" of 30h.
Likewise, I bought 2 car chargers that are S21 certified as well as QC3.0 and PD3.0. It has a 30W port. I used the cable that came with either charger (I've tried a ton of cables) and sometimes it gives a "0mA" reading while other times it goes 200mA-800mA at a good voltage. That means while I don't lose charge, I also don't gain. On my 30 min drive home I went from 23% to 24% with dark mode and no apps running.
Finally, to extend the mystery, depending on which aftermarket charger I use the phone itself thinks I'm Fast Charging or Super Fast Charging, reporting that on the lock screen and battery screen. On that screen it says something like 30m to 100% even though the observed charge rate is much lower.
Samsung won't talk to me unless I'm using a Samsung charger and I can't wait until I get the voucher/those are in stock ... I have 5 days to return it and unless you can help me (Obi Wan) I'll be back on that track.
icewiz1 said:
I can't get the thing to super/fast charge. I do not have a Samsung charger
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I use my old 25W (original from N10+) charger and it takes about 1 hour to charge from 15-20% to full. I have the DevCheckPro app showing me at the start 17-18W and about 6-7Amps of charge load initially, at the beginning.

Question Slow charge Android 13 stable

Just put 13 stable on my phone and charging my phone Takes forever I mean it's slow as hell..Wasn't the best on Android 12 but hell on Android 12 it was way faster.. That's the one thing I hate about this phone the battery life sucks an charging the battery is so damn slow..I got all the Adaptive crap turned off.
I'll have to pay more attention to the charging speed on my P6P and let you know what I experience. I try to never use fast charging, never charge overnight, try not to let the battery go below 25% and don't charge past 75%. That 50% range lasts me about 24 hours, but I might use my phone less than you.
I had no complaints about the charging speed on Android 12.
Edit: I'm happy with how much my phone has charged in the last 45 minutes, given that I don't use fast charge methods.
I am having the same issue. Installed 13 stable on my 6 pro. My battery got down to 4% so I plugged it in. I continued to watch YouTube and after an hour it was only up to 8%. Something is def wrong. The battery sucked before but now it's even worse
Updated yesterday and seems ive now got an issue with wireless charging. My phone stopped charging at 81% overnight. Its very intermittent whether it starts charging now on the two wireless chargers i have and seems to stop randomly, not getting to 100%. Charges fine using a cable.
Have the same problem since upgrading to android 13.
According to AccuBattery is the charge current around 900 mA. Way too slow and really annoying!
Didn't have the problem with android 12.
I'm using an Anker Power Port III which can charge with up to 25W. It's the same with other cables and charging devices.
Edit: Attached some screenshots
To clarify one thing for a number of users, you will not get adequate charging speeds without the official charging cable, the 30W Google branded wall brick and good temperature conditions.
The temperature conditions are generally the hardest to control whilst using the device - so I always charge with my phone powered off and have never had an issue. Heck, I generally charge with a 5W wireless pad and it always reaches 100% overnight (usually takes about 5 hours with my minimal wattage charging pad).
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In the end - with the official cable usage - my charging speed hasn't changed between A12 and A13.
NippleSauce said:
To clarify one thing for a number of users, you will not get adequate charging speeds without the official charging cable, the 30W Google branded wall brick and good temperature conditions.
The temperature conditions are generally the hardest to control whilst using the device - so I always charge with my phone powered off and have never had an issue. Heck, I generally charge with a 5W wireless pad and it always reaches 100% overnight (usually takes about 5 hours with my minimal wattage charging pad).
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I think you didn't get my point. I did a comparison between android 12 and android 13. Since the charging speed is reduced dramatically it doesn't matter which cables or charging devices I use unless they are the same.
So we don't discuss absolute charging times here but the fact that by upgrading the OS of our Pixel 6 Pro the charging behaviour changed ceteris paribus.
I charge slowly over night, the charger i use normally charges at 1.5A max, now on A13 it is charging at 800mA
I have ESR magsafe ring. My car charger is working for about 2 minutes and stops. Battery temperature reach 43°C within 2-3 minutes since I upgraded to android 13.
All of the magsafe accessories stopped working. All of the normal QI chargers stopped working. I absolutely hate this phone. First 3 months - no reception in buildings. Still no 5G in my country even with root and signal guru. Now it's not charging wirelessly and only slow charing with cable.
My new guess is it is due to the overheating problem with the update to Android 13.
A lot of people complain about the high temperature. Therefore the phone reduces the charging speed.
Maybe that's also the reason for the problem with the wireless charging. too much heat = no wireless charging. Just guessing...
ATM I rebooted my phone to safe mode. Let's see if this helps.
Somehow I solved the problem. I booted into safe mode. Then I clean the temp files with Google Files. And now my phone is charging with 2mA and above again. Also the temp of the battery is down to 36°. I still think that is the root cause.
veeroohre said:
Somehow I solved the problem. I booted into safe mode. Then I clean the temp files with Google Files. And now my phone is charging with 2mA and above again. Also the temp of the battery is down to 36°. I still think that is the root cause.
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Doubt this but I will try it and report back
NippleSauce said:
To clarify one thing for a number of users, you will not get adequate charging speeds without the official charging cable, the 30W Google branded wall brick and good temperature conditions.
The temperature conditions are generally the hardest to control whilst using the device - so I always charge with my phone powered off and have never had an issue. Heck, I generally charge with a 5W wireless pad and it always reaches 100% overnight (usually takes about 5 hours with my minimal wattage charging pad).
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In the end - with the official cable usage - my charging speed hasn't changed between A12 and A13.
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well we know for one you dont need that
just a cable capable of the current and a charger that hits PPF standards
and even with/without official chargers it will only peak 21w
im using a £5 Gan charger and a USlion 2M long magnetic 60w cable that can do data aswell and it is doing 20w peak for me on A13 which is what it did on A12 aswell. Both which i bought before the official charger came out
Paz9 said:
Doubt this but I will try it and report back
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Nope, still charging like a piece of [crap, so,] not sure what Google did with A13 , I use official charger for fast charge, considerably slower than on A12
But yeah 3rd party Chinese charge and magnetic cable no issues. Charging issues are not a13 related it will be some defining factor like an app or hardware
CubnPackdad said:
Just put 13 stable on my phone and charging my phone Takes forever I mean it's slow as hell..Wasn't the best on Android 12 but hell on Android 12 it was way faster.. That's the one thing I hate about this phone the battery life sucks an charging the battery is so damn slow..I got all the Adaptive crap turned off.
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I am having the same problem
I updated my pixel 5a to 13 stable. It's charging speed decreased a lot . Firstly it took around 1hr 50 min to get 100 now it's lot
more than 3hr. Gets lot of heating while charging.
Sometime it shows "6 hr to full charge" even at (30-40) battery level, and that's really bad .
After 13 Device is heating ( not just warm) so much even in normal uses (No gaming).
My own testing found out as long as battery reach 41 degree C, the P6P will charge at 3.5W only... (While still displaying fast charging). It you put the phone in front of air conditioner vent to lower the temperature to 25 degrees C, then it charging at full 20W.
The P6P easily get into battery y 41 degrees C by just charging at room temperature higher then 32 degrees C. On A12 its pretty difficult to get this... Somehow A13 drive the CPU while charging which I suspect affect the heat dispatching. I used a charging wire with watterage display so its easily see how P6P limiting the charging wattage with temperature.
It was considerably slower for me too. I was in Spain, coming from UK, so had to use adapter. I thought it's the case, but it has also been something with temperatures, I couldn't backup the pictures because the system showed me it's too hot. I hope that was the issue.
I just swith to Android 13 there are ossue with battery . please fix it .you guys are doing great work

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