F240k from Ebay - worth it? - LG Optimus G Pro

Looking for an unlocked phone around $100. Looking at a seller on Swappa who does LG G2's for $99 but used. I've recently stumbled across an eBay seller with brand new LG G Pro's F240k's for $109 or so. Is it worth getting the LG G Pro in new condition for US MetroPCS usage? I know I'd be missing out on LET but is it worth getting it today?

I would see what else you could get for this price range. My main sell point for this phone was the home led light which I love (most unique I've ever seen before), but other things upset me. I expected the camera to be on par with G2's, but it's not at all. Really wasnt much of an upgrade from my galaxy s2. GPS is also a little funky from 2 different phones I've tested on, however with a little disassembly I was able to improve mine. Besides that, the phone is great (enough cpu, enough battery) but if those 2 things happen to be sell points for you, I would get a G2. A G2 is definetly better than this phone though, the reason I didnt get it was because I didnt like the power button on back design. It feels awkward to me

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I would see what else you could get for this price range. My main sell point for this phone was the home led light which I love (most unique I've ever seen before), but other things upset me. I expected the camera to be on par with G2's, but it's not at all. Really wasnt much of an upgrade from my galaxy s2. GPS is also a little funky from 2 different phones I've tested on, however with a little disassembly I was able to improve mine. Besides that, the phone is great (enough cpu, enough battery) but if those 2 things happen to be sell points for you, I would get a G2. A G2 is definetly better than this phone though, the reason I didnt get it was because I didnt like the power button on back design. It feels awkward to me
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That helps for sure. I have a Kyocera Hydro Wave for Metro PCS which was free (thank god because it blows) but needs to be replaced. The last flagship phone I had was a Note 3 when they first came out. The G Pro on eBay is brand new but the G2 is used. Thoughts on that? Any camera would be better than this piece of junk lol.

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[Q] Is this phone good?

Sorry that i'm posting this if there has been other threads like this, Search was down.
Anyway, is the GPU 'PowerVR SGX540' bad for 'HD' games? Such as GTA 3 or Modern combat 3, etc.
I'm wanting to buy this phone between now to december as i have a planned overseas trip in december. This phone appealed to me due to it's sleek-ish design and the curved unusual screen. How great is the camera quality? I've been on gsmarena.com for quality checks however i can't really tell the differences (tested with galaxy s3 and one x cameras).
Also, is the battery life good enough for moderate usage (a bit of gaming, texting, browsing) throughout the day? (I usually charge my phone whenever i go to sleep)
Wanting to switch from Galaxy 551 to Galaxy Nexus. Originally i wanted to go for HTC One S but they do not sell that model in New Zealand.
Is this phone worth buying now? Or should i buy another different phone - similar specs/price would be nice (in NZD)
Thanks in advance
EDIT - Will this phone still be supported in.. lets say 2 years? (2014/2015). I can get this phone for around $550-$600 since i cannot shop online.
Yes it will be supported for years.
By Google, XDA, and everyone else.
Look at the dinc. Still has development and has JB.
If you can wait for next month for the next Nexus. But I must warn u.
If you wait.
1.) Development will be strong but there won't be much till 3-5 month later.
2.) Price may be high.
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Yes it will be supported for years.
By Google, XDA, and everyone else.
Look at the dinc. Still has development and has JB.
If you can wait for next month for the next Nexus. But I must warn u.
If you wait.
1.) Development will be strong but there won't be much till 3-5 month later.
2.) Price may be high.
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Development sounds good - My current phone has hardly any development as it's not a popular one.
The Price shouldn't really increase in my country, may stay the same but definitely not increase (If that's what your stating)
this phone very nice...fast updater..simple phone..:good:
I wouldn't recommend you buy this phone. Actually, this is the best phone I've ever had, the hardware is amazing and there is a lot of development for this model, BUT there is a massive manufacturing defect, a lot of Gnex starts having issues with charging and battery drain because a problem with the Micro USB port, this makes the phone unusable and Samsung is not responding about the problem, sometimes they even say that it is not a manufacturing defect so you have to pay for repair...
So, buy another phone, this one is not worth it.
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I wouldn't recommend you buy this phone. Actually, this is the best phone I've ever had, the hardware is amazing and there is a lot of development for this model, BUT there is a massive manufacturing defect, a lot of Gnex starts having issues with charging and battery drain because a problem with the Micro USB port, this makes the phone unusable and Samsung is not responding about the problem, sometimes they even say that it is not a manufacturing defect so you have to pay for repair...
So, buy another phone, this one is not worth it.
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I just looked up some reports about this... It seems like the usb hardware is bent when it happens
Those issues are not as common as they seem.
Like the Death Grip for the iPhone 4. Only 1% complained. Even though it seemed like a global complaint.
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Yes it still is good. Despite of its age its still up there with the heavyweights.
Look here :
http://www.phonedog.com/rankings/smartphones/
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i'm sorry, but i just had too:
my device is great. probably won't switch until development for it dies, or something drastic happens *knock on wood* (lol)
note: gta 3 runs great, btw
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Hey galaxy nexus is just great (coming from a Defy) and it got enough power hardware wise to be quite future proof.
Next Nexus?
Next Nexus... Please send me some links as I badly want to get rid of my S3 because I miss my Nexus... except for the camera... The S3 camera is fantastic, the Nexus camera was a disaster in my opinion...
Thanks for showing me the light
I've somehow persuaded my parents to allow me to buy online.
Should i get Galaxy Nexus or HTC One S?
I really like One S's hardware but i like Nexus's software... tough choice really (Both similar price online, S4 Krait cpu)
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I've somehow persuaded my parents to allow me to buy online.
Should i get Galaxy Nexus or HTC One S?
I really like One S's hardware but i like Nexus's software... tough choice really (Both similar price online, S4 Krait cpu)
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Of the two, nexus, hands down. $350, and top notch development, for a very long foreseeable future. Hardware wins after 2-3 years. Software wins every other time.
I777 gets it done, gnex just for fun
sooo i used and tested a lot of phones in my life.about 3 months ago i started to check the top class. my colegues at work had oneX, oneS, S2, S3, iphone4 and 4s and a GNex. OneX was the firmest, the feel of the materials was great i personaly dont like those capacitive buttons on any phone but, whatever, it had NO battery cover so when something happens you're f****d. S2 was and still is a classic but it was getting old. still good but as i said its old. S3 should be the bomb, it was called the best phone yet. yup its big and what not but that ****ty button and the overall feel of it was a disaster. it was so poorly built for my taste. it was too much plastik, too round i dont know. then i tested the nexus!
oh man first of all the feel of it in the hand. the ballance it gets, with that thicker part it made it feel like a part of the hand. the power button is on the right side and on the RIGHT (HTC). The the first thing i notice is there is no physical button. simple thought for me was less **** to get damaged, so great. when i saw the nav buttons it were the same from my transformer and then it came to me that they were integrated in the scren. well not integrated, but the part of the screen. if you watch a movie or a picture the would go back and it would be the movie/picture. like all phones today they get greassy, when i tourned it back i saw the cover. it was ok. nice pattern but a strange way to take it off and back on. everytime i think something would break. i think it's not a phone for people who change SIM cards often. it was awesome.
but still blah blah blah S3 has 4cpu, 2ram bigger screen. oneX is great almost the same as S3. So i wanted finally a S3 cuz of the bigger screen i watch movies on my phone and tablet and a lot of web. but then i thought it was to damn expensive. 4cpu for what??? Photoshop, 3d moddeling, hard core gaming...hm get a pc or something else for games like psp. cuz a game eats battery like crazy. so insted after a lot of thought for half the bucks i had an awesome phone.
dude buy it i don't know any better phone right now not cuz of this forum or something like that it's cuz the price and what u get us phenomenal!!!
cheers:victory:
I've seen some threads/posts relating to Galaxy Nexus's screen and how it shows these 'lines' or 'dots'. Is this normal for a pentile screen?
Quite a nice device
When it comes to an Android, the GNex is still at the top IMO. The fact that google supports it directly is very nice, and while it may be a bit behind others in stats, it performs quite admirably. The build quality of the device is on par with other samsung devices such as the S3. The camera is probably its weak point, with only 5mega pixels and run of the mill optics, its not going to win any awards for its pictures. However, it is in line if not better than many other smart phones. The only ones that beat it by a large margin are the s3, iPhone 4s/5, and the OneX. Also, I've noticed that when recording 1080p it can occasionally have the odd stutter. I typically use 720p for space constraints, so it doesnt really bother me, but it is something of a bummer. This is seemingly corrected when using a custom kernel and overclocked a bit, but I typically just run the stock rooted ROM now, as the pure "google" experience is what drew me to the phone in the first place.
it offers a smooth ui with JB that is easily as good as the iPhone 4s, and beyond any other android device i've used, bar none. The battery is *decent*, and by that I mean that I have killed it in less than 10 hours, but I use it quite heavily. 95% of the time it goes from 5:30AM to 11pm-ish and has 25% or so starting at 100.The back speaker that serves as the ringer / notification / speaker phone is not up to snuff IMO, leaving a lot to be desired. In some data centers I am unable to hear it when in my pocket, however the otter box w/ belt clip fixed that pretty quick. The proximity sensor occasionally will allow the screen to come on during a call, but the case interestingly enough solved that too (I think it had to do with adding the bulk to the phone, changing how I hold it.)
The ear buds included are quite satisfactory for both music and phone calls, and are very clear, and have a good range for music, most notably the lower end for bass. As to the USB problem, I do notice that it has a hard time with some of the cheaper car chargers, and acts as if it has a short as it wont stay charging until you wiggle the plug just right. But using a decent car charger fixed that. (Dont buy the 5 dollar wal mart special, I use a motorola cable that came with my Atrix 2 and my car stereo's USB port to charge it and it never screws up)
Thats the only USB related issue I ever had, and it seems to be on the chargers end. The bluetooth radio is quite a bit better when compared to anything else I've used, as typically my ear piece when worn on my right ear with my phone in my left pocket would get a poor quality connection, but this has never been the case with the gnex.
As far as signal strength goes, its antenna is quite decent, however if you are (and it appears you are NOT) in the US and using AT&T, a UG baseband brings it in line with the S3 for signal strength (in dBm) as well as band preference, which with the stock XX baseband 1900 seems to be the preferred band, which in a lot of places wont matter, but in the mountains it can introduce some voice quality / data speed issues when it is clinging to that 1900mhz band like glue when it gets 10x the signal on the 850 bands. The screen is fantastic, and I've never noticed any little dots on it. I've never seen it struggle with any video related app or game, but I have a limited array of games on my phone, not really my thing.
About the only thing it doesn't do (but probably can be made to do) for me is AT&T visual voicemail. I have it on my plan but dont get to use it since the gnex, Also, while it has a pretty good list of APN's, be sure to get the correct one from your current phone if keeping the same carrier, just in case you need to manually create it.
A word on customization: If you plan to do anything with this phone, I recommend doing a fastboot oem unlock right out of the box, THEN set the phone up. unlocking the bootloader requires it to completely wipe itself, which is annoying if you played with the phone for a week and THEN unlock it since at that point you're stock and have no decent tools available yet. Also its really hard to brick the thing, but not impossible: Do some searches, backup the efs, dont use odin and you should be good for all the playing you want to do.
Happy trails and hope you enjoy it as much as I have!
Hi guys. So I have the Nexus S and I'm kind of tempted on buying one of these Galaxy Nexus thingies. My Nexus S is only a year old, and overall it's OK on stock JB, but it can be really annoying. 3D games like Modern Combat 3 are completely unplayable and launcher redraws and system hangups occur quite often with on half a gig of RAM.
What would you do? Stay with the old Nexus and get the next model in a year or get the GNex. Where I live the thing costs roughly 380$. Do you think I could send the NS, if yes, for how much?
Thank you for your thoughts!
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When it comes to an Android, the GNex is still at the top IMO.
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Thanks i read your whole paragraph. I have extra cables for charging from previous phones that used micro usb and they havent really broke my devices. Also thanks for all your info, it made me want to get the nexus even more, I'm getting it after my exams next month!
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Hi guys. So I have the Nexus S and I'm kind of tempted on buying one of these Galaxy Nexus thingies.
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I would believe the GNex would be a great phone, however i do not own one so i cannot say. But by the looks of reviews and comments people have posted - it's a great supported phone by google which will last for a while, maybe until Nexus 2
ifrit723 said:
I've somehow persuaded my parents to allow me to buy online.
Should i get Galaxy Nexus or HTC One S?
I really like One S's hardware but i like Nexus's software... tough choice really (Both similar price online, S4 Krait cpu)
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One S doesn't have as much development and will be left die on 4.1 since the next flagship is coming back up soon.
CM will probably keep it going for a year though.
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Rate your Refurb

This thread is intended to discuss your experience with your refurbished Galaxy Note 2 from AT&T so others can decide if a refurbished device is the right choice for them. If you want to rate the quality of your device on a scale of 1-10 I will keep the OP updated with the average rating. I for one was somewhat skeptical about ordering a refurbished device but I took the plunge after reading another members good experience and so far I have had no regrets. Please follow XDA rules and have fun.
That being said I would rate the quality of my device as a 10 . I ordered the white model and I have not been able to find any flaws ( and I am anal about little things ) I had a very bad experience with AT&T when I had the HTC one X , They sent me 3 refurb's in one week and all of them had issues. I am very happy so far with my Refurbished Galaxy Note 2 and I have the insurance just in case something goes wrong after the 90 days.
I did run into the loose charging port that I read about in these forums and discovered it to be the actual cable , not the phone. my solution was to file down the upper part of the housing and now the charging usb actually clicks into place. Also this aftermarket usb cable from radio shack fits perfect. see attached image.
Average user rating 8.7
Just to toss this out not Note related however I bought my daughter a referb s3 and it has been flawless as well. Att seems to ensure your getting a quality referb device. When I was with tmobile the same could not be said..
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9.5.. Clean, no scratches, Functions well. the only -.5 is because the batter installed was completely dead, and it didnt come with a headset/headphones.
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9.5.. Clean, no scratches, Functions well. the only -.5 is because the batter installed was completely dead, and it didnt come with a headset/headphones.
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I bought 2 brand new from Best Buy, and they didn't come with a headset, I don't think that something manufacturers do anymore. It's a shame though, considering the price of the phone
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I bought 2 brand new from Best Buy, and they didn't come with a headset, I don't think that something manufacturers do anymore. It's a shame though, considering the price of the phone
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I had a refurbished Samsung replaced under warranty since my camera focus quit working**....it was basically flawless and in perfect condition. :good:
**Wasn't till later that I realized that my phone mounted on a motorcycle handlebar for a 2,900 miles trip might have contributed to the problem (i.e. vibration)?? Wasn't sure but makes sense. Anyway it quit working so I got a refurbished one which I still use on my motorcycle.
Haven't had a refurb note2 but my original note was replaced under warranty with a refurb and the first replacement had scratches on the camera lens, called at&t and told them that was unacceptable as I'm anal about my phone, most people probably wouldn't have even cared, they said no problem and sent me a new one.
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Captivate-me said:
I bought 2 brand new from Best Buy, and they didn't come with a headset, I don't think that something manufacturers do anymore. It's a shame though, considering the price of the phone
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My new one from BestBuy also didn't have headphones.
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10. No physical flaws, runs smooth as butter, etc.
9.5
my back plate is super easy to take off... is that normal? with my skyrocket i had to pry it and pull with a little force. This GN2 just peels right off.
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9.5
my back plate is super easy to take off... is that normal? with my skyrocket i had to pry it and pull with a little force. This GN2 just peels right off.
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Same here. Replaced the wife's 3gs with one.
Back is not hard to remove but doesn't seem it will fall of at all.
Some other things that I'd Ike to know if normal or not:
- very low call volume (still have to play with this more)
- beeps continuously while charging with my nexus one 1A (or less, don't remember) charger.
- &#%$&#%&$&#% lots and lots of AT&T crap ware. It kept trying to make me type my Gmail passwd on a att.com page during setup... riiight. Now every time I press contacts tab on phone app it shows a dialog about downloading contacts from att for a few seconds.
...will I be fine if I flash cyanogen or something else on it?
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Same here. Replaced the wife's 3gs with one.
Back is not hard to remove but doesn't seem it will fall of at all.
Some other things that I'd Ike to know if normal or not:
- very low call volume (still have to play with this more)
- beeps continuously while charging with my nexus one 1A (or less, don't remember) charger.
- &#%$&#%&$&#% lots and lots of AT&T crap ware. It kept trying to make me type my Gmail passwd on a att.com page during setup... riiight. Now every time I press contacts tab on phone app it shows a dialog about downloading contacts from att for a few seconds.
...will I be fine if I flash cyanogen or something else on it?
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I don't recall any of that happening to me, however you should be able to install some aftermarket firmware after rooting and installing a recovery using Odin or Heimdall (depending on your OS)
However if you still have the low call volume and whatnot, I'd say completely revert back to stock and return it. AT&T will give you a brand new one at no extra cost if they deem it unworthy xD
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9.5.. Clean, no scratches, Functions well. the only -.5 is because the batter installed was completely dead, and it didnt come with a headset/headphones.
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Same for me(received my unit yesterday, (upgrading from a root and modded Skyrocket) excellent looking unit, battery was dead, no headphones... battery charged very quickly, much quicker than I expected... visually the phone itself is perfect, LOVE it.
What an incredible deal even with the specs of the IV that have been revealed over the last few days I feel VERY happy with this purchase, can't touch this battery life and screen size!
I've not received a Note 2 refurb, but for other's that I have; e.g. Skyrocket, S3, etc I only received the phone housing, never any other accessories such as battery, back plate, etc as I've always been told to keep those from the original.
Is the Note 2 different in that AT&T now provides those additional with a refurb replacement? Seems a bit odd they'd go through this trouble considering that would more than likely not have anything to do with the phone HW which is being addressed under warranty.
EDIT: Ah.... ok I mis-read this as I was under the impression this was in regards to warranty replacement... disregard.
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I've not received a Note 2 refurb, but for other's that I have; e.g. Skyrocket, S3, etc I only received the phone housing, never any other accessories such as battery, back plate, etc as I've always been told to keep those from the original.
Is the Note 2 different in that AT&T now provides those additional with a refurb replacement? Seems a bit odd they'd go through this trouble considering that would more than likely not have anything to do with the phone HW which is being addressed under warranty.
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Most of the posts here are from people who purchased the the refurb note 2 from the at&t .99 cent sale.
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I just wanted to say that if anyone wants a case with a kickstand, this is the case I got today from Best Buy, as they were out of cases at the AT&T store. I do quite like it (even though I probably won't be using it for its kickstand), but it is pretty thin and seems pretty durable for its thinness. It basically seperates into two by pushing on a specific area on the back and that way only (I tried prying it open via the sides for testing purposes and it wasn't budging). The kick stand is also magnetic and it works just fine on let's say, a table or other hard surface...
So yeah. Just thought I'd put it out there for anyone who needs a thin case and no I wasn't paid to post this xD
EDIT: I also have a question. I'm currently on the DataPro 4G 3Gig plan, but need to upgrade to the corresponding LTE plan. Will AT&T upgrade me to the 3Gig LTE plan (that's the same price) automatically or will they bump me down to a 300megabyte plan? Because I'm too lazy to call them oops.
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I just wanted to say that if anyone wants a case with a kickstand, this is the case I got today from Best Buy, as they were out of cases at the AT&T store. I do quite like it (even though I probably won't be using it for its kickstand), but it is pretty thin and seems pretty durable for its thinness. It basically seperates into two by pushing on a specific area on the back and that way only (I tried prying it open via the sides for testing purposes and it wasn't budging). The kick stand is also magnetic and it works just fine on let's say, a table or other hard surface...
So yeah. Just thought I'd put it out there for anyone who needs a thin case and no I wasn't paid to post this xD
EDIT: I also have a question. I'm currently on the DataPro 4G 3Gig plan, but need to upgrade to the corresponding LTE plan. Will AT&T upgrade me to the 3Gig LTE plan (that's the same price) automatically or will they bump me down to a 300megabyte plan? Because I'm too lazy to call them oops.
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They should keep you on the same price. Open a web chat if you dont want to call lol.
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They should keep you on the same price. Open a web chat if you dont want to call lol.
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just call.. they have specific data plan names for 4g phones
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estabien said:
I just wanted to say that if anyone wants a case with a kickstand, this is the case I got today from Best Buy, as they were out of cases at the AT&T store. I do quite like it (even though I probably won't be using it for its kickstand), but it is pretty thin and seems pretty durable for its thinness. It basically seperates into two by pushing on a specific area on the back and that way only (I tried prying it open via the sides for testing purposes and it wasn't budging). The kick stand is also magnetic and it works just fine on let's say, a table or other hard surface...
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That case is $20 on Amazon
http://www.amazon.com/Seidio-CSR3SS...&qid=1363336856&sr=8-3&keywords=seidio+note+2
I don't know why the ones in BB are called "PT" though. All I've ever owned is Seidio cases, my last one held up great for two years and I am in the construction industry. Here is the one I got, it is 2 cases in one:
http://www.amazon.com/Seidio-BD4-HK...3336987&sr=1-1&keywords=seidio+note+2+convert
Received my Note II (both of them) also .. visually a 10, functionality a 10 .. both phones are flawless. Was surprised however that both phone came with 4.1.1 on them .. being refurbished, I would had expected AT&T upgraded them to current before shipping .. but then again, that helped me .. LOL .. both phones UNLOCKED before upgrading
The two we got are in really good shape, except I can't get them to use the home wireless -- which is supplied by AT&T ironically enough. They both keep saying "authentication error". We have tested them outside the home and Wifi works fine there, so they just won't work at home.
Regardless, the recipients are no longer jealous of my Note 2, which I bought on (AT&T) launch day.
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Received my Note II (both of them) also .. visually a 10, functionality a 10 .. both phones are flawless. Was surprised however that both phone came with 4.1.1 on them .. being refurbished, I would had expected AT&T upgraded them to current before shipping .. but then again, that helped me .. LOL .. both phones UNLOCKED before upgrading
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is the z1c reliable?

Ok I have to say I am exited about this phone but now after spending some time on this forum and the sony forum I am starting to get cold feet. I don't mind changing the back cover, but I see other serious issues with the screen (there is a long thread in the sony forum about it), not to mention camera button, volume, alarm problems.
It seems for a 450 euro phone it's a lot of flaws. I know in forum it's mainly troubleshooting, but buying a phone in a country where there is no warranty is scary, see my other thread.
So what is the general consensus about reliability? Also is it true the latest phones produced have fixed the the light bleed already fixed?
I own a Z1C and I can't say anything bad about it. Please remember that happy people tend not to share their good experiences, while those with faulty units tend to exaggerate their unhappiness, making them more visible.
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Don't believe everything you hear in the internet. Samsung, HTC, Apple, LG, Nokia...They all have interest to bash this phone on the net.
Great battery life, Great screen with really good blacks, Snapdragon 800, Aluminum and glass, fast 20MP Camera. What's not to love?
Never judge a phone until you hold it yourself in the store! Don't believe internet until you check it yourself, ever!
I thought the same as you until I held that phone in the store and then everything changed.
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Don't believe everything you hear in the internet. Samsung, HTC, Apple, LG, Nokia...They all have interest to bash this phone on the net.
Great battery life, Great screen with really good blacks, Snapdragon 800, Aluminum and glass, fast 20MP Camera. What's not to love?
Never judge a phone until you hold it yourself in the store! Don't believe internet until you check it yourself, ever!
I thought the same as you until I held that phone in the store and then everything changed.
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I agree with you but sometimes if u r unlucky enough then u can get a faulty product too and it can happens with any phone.. as i bought galaxy s4 and replaced 3 times but got weird display issue and finally asked for refund. As soon as i will get my refund i will buy z1 compact. So always buy from somewhere where u will get replacement easily.. and also dont blame all the phones if u get a faulty phone.. manufacturing defect can be present on any phones from any company..
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I agree with you but sometimes if u r unlucky enough then u can get a faulty product too and it can happens with any phone.. as i bought galaxy s4 and replaced 3 times but got weird display issue and finally asked for refund. As soon as i will get my refund i will buy z1 compact. So always buy from somewhere where u will get replacement easily.. and also dont blame all the phones if u get a faulty phone.. manufacturing defect can be present on any phones from any company..
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Agreed. :good:
Had my z1c about a month and no problems here. I also read about screen problems before buying and was a little nervous but I've had zero issues with screen. I also read a few complaints about a wake up delay but I haven't experienced that either. No random reboots (which I had on all my previous phones) I'm still on sony's 4.3 OS. It's very stable and no reason for me to upgrade to 4.4 at the moment. This thing is the best phone I've ever had, no complaints.
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I've had the Z1 for about a month now, it is a good device. But I'd say the price tag is a bit high for this device.
Display is good, but not the best for this price tag.
Camera is good, and that's all it is. I wouldn't stop carrying my camera around, but yeah, it still does take a few nice shots here and there.
Speaker is a big let down. And the software seems to be getting a bit buggy with each update. That I'm sure they'll fix.
Literally half an hour between removing the shipped screen cover which was dirty and putting on a screen guard I had a tiny scratch on the screen. Depressing.
I'm not too happy with the call quality either. But it's probably my service provider.
Pro. Battery life. It's AMAZING. 2 days easy with pretty decent usage.
(for me) New phone after a realllllly long time.
It is a snappy, quick phone. So if you're looking for that, then go for it.
If it's for videos or music, I'd give it serious thought.
At the end, there will be die hard fans and haters, you have to figure this out for yourself!
Just my 2 cents.
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thanks for all the feedbacks given.
I will be using the phone mainly for maps, music, Skype, mail, internet and the casual pic here and there. it sounds strange but in the US I wont be using this as a phone beucase Verizon will force me to get data, but in Europe I am good to go.
I never had a smart phone but I had a ipod touch 4g but I need something with gps, better wifi reception and more customizable.
It's too bad the speaker stinks, I think the speaker in the touch it's pretty decent and I didn't have to carry a headphone with me when I am biking around. So perhaps that's something I should think about.
Speaker is rather good quality and clear. Only it reproduces a little lower sound.
I got this phone coming from the Nexus 4. It is a really good phone. Takes great pictures and videos. Sometimes they don't look that good on the phone screen. I cast them to my 42 inch TV and they are crystal clear. Battery is great. I really like the audio quality. Better than the Nexus 4 and 7. Call quality is good. I always have rooted my phones but this one has enough things to tweak I can get it the way I want. No need to change anything. And the great thing is even in a poor signal area the battery doesn't drop like a rock like it has on my other phones. I recommend it.
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There is no real reason to replace the back cover now. It only affected early production models.
Getting a $1 screen protector for the back is a far more convenient way to keep the phone looking good, rather than swapping it out for glass.
jewelkobayashi said:
There is no real reason to replace the back cover now. It only affected early production models.
Getting a $1 screen protector for the back is a far more convenient way to keep the phone looking good, rather than swapping it out for glass.
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and how do I know if it's a later production? is there a particular date? I see the production number but since I buy it online it's hard to know. Sony always has some problems with their top of the line electronics, vaio, cellphones, etc and are never good at admitting or replacing the faulty units. Look at the problem with their sony vaio 13 and wifi.
I've had mine for 2 and a half months so far and it has had absolutely zero issues. Everything works exactly as it was supposed to work. Display, back cover, camera, buttons, MicroSD card/slot, GPS, battery, you name it. It has never had any weird reboot issues either. I have tested RomAur 1.2, 3.0, and official and unofficial CM 11 nightlies. In fact, I wasn't aware of any of these issues until I read this thread.
It is a great phone. Most of the complaints are nit-picking as we strive for absolute perfection (not a bad thing!) As it is, it is better than all the competition as a good all-rounder.
I have to say owning from 3g iphone to iPhone 5 and I'm on android from lg P990 sgs2 sgs3 and 4 htc one one x and now I have this only drawback huge ugly bottom front side and uncomfortable when I use it with one hand rest is a almost perfect phone for me
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Guess I have the early version of the phone.. cause I have the flash bleeds when I make photos at night or in the dark room.
So far I love this phone if only for this issue.
Mr.Kos said:
Guess I have the early version of the phone.. cause I have the flash bleeds when I make photos at night or in the dark room.
So far I love this phone if only for this issue.
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I also have this issue and as per box information my phone was imported to India on march..
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HTC m8 pitfalls?

I'm a long time HTC sensation user and have modded it all the way up to lollipop. Sadly, the wife just dropped it and cracked her entire screen - just today. It was a fun, slo-mo event. Happily, that means it's time to upgrade. sssshhh I know I can buy a new screen...but it's time for an upgrade after 4+ years.
I'm pretty sure I'm going for the m8 rather than the s5, but I'm curious about any, shall we say, un-"reviewed" pit falls?
Things like:
I know the battery is non removable but the S5 has a removable one. We had the sensation so long we burned through a few ankers and it really helped the life span. Comments on the real world battery? One of the strength, to me, was the removable battery. I have an old itouch, with a, let called it, hard to deal with battery. It was nice to not be forced to upgrade when the battery became is hosed.
The modding power. I quite enjoy rooting/s-offing/breaking my phone - but ideally not bricking. I know htc has been a tad cranky in the past with this, it seems okay looking at the development community and I'm not reading up on too many issues but what are experiences between rooting/roming this vs the S5?
Any, I love this phone but, damn, this one thing really suck but there's a easy work around type things? Or it's be the best phone except the battery is ****? Things the main reviewers won't really say?
Hoping to join you guy here from the sensation forums in a few days(and of course root my phone asap)
It just doesn't feel right in my hands. Can't explain it but maybe it's just me and my dislike for curved phones. I still don't like how uncomfortable it feels to hold.
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It just doesn't feel right in my hands. Can't explain it but maybe it's just me and my dislike for curved phones. I still don't like how uncomfortable it feels to hold.
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Enough that the phone isn't worth it? Have you moved on? Wished that you had an S5, nexus 5, etc? Any other major regrets besides the feel?
I have tried every other competitor till now. G3 - sluggish and heats up fast. S5 - build quality, knox and no gpe posibility. Z3 - Too pricey, low on updates and development, otherwise a spectacular phone. OnePlus - No stable ROM to date, even CM11SR44 is buggy.
The battery on the One M8 has been great for me. I always get 4-5h SOT through 1-2days. Keep in mind that I come from Z Ultra and Mi3 that both had 3000+ mah batteries.
My advice is to buy this phone, you will not regret it.
This might actually be the first phone I manage to keep for two years (thus avoiding the inevitable arguement with the wife) hahaha
Here are my problems
1. Camera covers scratch really easily. My main back camera was scratched quite badly, even with a spigen slim armor on all the time. I sent it in for repair and they replaced both the front facing and the back main covers. The back currently is being protected by a 'screen protector'. The coating on the new front cover scratched/came slightly off in about a month and I rubbed the rest away. It remains scratch-free, but (number 2)
2. Dust can get under the speaker grilles and get stuck under front facing camera. Not sure if it is due to the replacement of the covers or what. Just last month, I went to Australia for a military exercise and it was very sandy. I believe it was the sand that went in. With that said, my platoon mate using the same phone did not get even a single speck of dust stuck under his.
I messaged the service centre and they said they would clean it for free under warranty, even with my bootloader unlocked, but the technician would do a diagnostic on my phone. The CSO asked for my IMEI number to check if I was under warranty, which I refused to give. Funny part is, shouldn't all M8s be under warranty since it was released only this year?
With regards to the battery, it is definitely awesome, although mine seem to have been weakened with me abusing it.
Personally I really like it-it's my favorite phone since the HD2. I agree it can be awkward to hold and the camera can be scratched, but for me these problems were easily solved by getting a decent case for it(i.e. not one of the barely covers it slim or dot view style cases, one of the bigger ones that actually protects it. I also put a screen protector on it just to be safe. I've dropped it twice from pocket level and it's fine).
The only thing I've noticed that I think could possibly be better is the battery life. Don't get me wrong, it's not bad per se, but I do feel it could be a little better. Of course, there are power saver apps and whatnot you can do to help with that.
And that's it.
What I like is how customizable it is. The only thing we can't currently do is put W8 on it, but given how wide open this phone is, that may just be a matter of time and interest. Meantime you can pretty much do anything else you want to it, which I love. There's a lot to be said for having the choice to use it however you want to. Can't recommend it enough.
Battery life is pretty good on the m8 especially on gpe a gpe m8 I would rate higher than a nexus device go for the m8 you won't be disappointed
One issue and that's the volume keys, everything else seems perfect to me (fantastic build quality, decent camera, decent battery, easily converted to gpe which is really nice).
Edit: Oh yeah second issue is that the htc keyboard sucks, thankfully that's a non issue because you can easily get better keyboards on the store.
I got the M8! Thanks for you thoughts. Already boot unlocked and Rooted, sadly I'll need sunshine not firewater to s-off when I go there but it's a great phone. Having had a Sensation for the lat 4 years...we've forgotten how fast phones can be! Cheers!
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Enough that the phone isn't worth it? Have you moved on? Wished that you had an S5, nexus 5, etc? Any other major regrets besides the feel?
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Enough that I'm constantly trying to get something else!
Had the Nexus 5 for almost 11 months and absolutely loved the feel of the phone in hand!
I've been trying to get a hold of a Z3 but all the Canadian ones are only 16gb so it's kind of disappointing. I'll wait for a next generation SD810 phone before I switch again. GPE Lollipop has reduced my enthusiasm to find something else!

Whos's returning their Samsung Note 7?

After playing with the Note 7 for about a week, just came to the conclusion that it's not for me at the present time. Reasons below :
1: Size. I do not like the size. Was hoping it was a little bigger. At least the size on the Note 4 or Nexus SP.
2: Battery sucks for me. Constantly charging.
3: Speaker. Cannot hear it some time if I am in another room.
4: Still no IR Blaster
5: This should maybe be #1 PRICE POINT. $879.00 + high taxes just not worth it. No phone is perfect but "Them Prices way to high Samsung need to CUT IT"!
6: The screen scratches too easily. Fingerprints!
7: Fingerprint Sensor. You have to press the button. Plus, I have gotten use to it being on the back.
8: Touchwiz still lags.
Great phone in every other way. But the "wow" factor is missing for me at this price. The Note is really the best built phone out right now. This is a really hard decision. But with other phones coming out, I will take a wait and see attitude. By October when everything is out, if nothing better is out maybe I will revisit the NOTE 7.
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Have you scratched yours?
lskeys said:
After playing with the Note 7 for about a week, just came to the conclusion that it's not for me at the present time. Reasons below :
1: Size. I do not like the size. Was hoping it was a little bigger. At least the size on the Note 4 or Nexus SP.
2: Battery sucks for me. Constantly charging.
3: Speaker. Cannot hear it some time if I am in another room.
4: Still no IR Blaster
5: This should maybe be #1 PRICE POINT. $879.00 + high taxes just not worth it. No phone is perfect but "Them Prices way to high Samsung need to CUT IT"!
6: The screen scratches too easily. Fingerprints!
7: Fingerprint Sensor. You have to press the button. Plus, I have gotten use to it being on the back.
8: Touchwiz still lags.
Great phone in every other way. But the "wow" factor is missing for me at this price. The Note is really the best built phone out right now. This is a really hard decision. But with other phones coming out, I will take a wait and see attitude. By October when everything is out, if nothing better is out maybe I will revisit the NOTE 7.
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Some valid points but some are just nonsense....
You purchased the phone knowing the price and that it has no IR blaster so why does it now affect your purchase?
The finger print sensor has nothing wrong with it. Due to your preferences and what you are used to, you are creating this problem.
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m00moo said:
You purchased the phone knowing the price and that it has no IR blaster so why does it now affect your purchase?
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in a way that when you pay almost 1000 EUR for a device, you expect much more.
and the test period has demonstrated that the device is not up to the expectations.
in other words, the device is overpriced; the price is grossly inflated.
that is evident to most users of previous Note models, even without purchasing it.
How bad is the speaker? Currently using nexus 6P but intend to pick one up soon.
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How bad is the speaker? Currently using nexus 6P but intend to pick one up soon.
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Volume is very low.
lskeys said:
After playing with the Note 7 for about a week, just came to the conclusion that it's not for me at the present time. Reasons below :.
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1: Size. I do not like the size. Was hoping it was a little bigger. At least the size on the Note 4 or Nexus SP.
- The screen is the same size so why would you want the body to be bigger? Doesn't make sense.
2: Battery sucks for me. Constantly charging.
- Depends on many many factors and there is always a bedding in period.
3: Speaker. Cannot hear it some time if I am in another room.
- It is down to the water proofing, but I read in many places it is still louder than some previous models.
4: Still no IR Blaster
- You knew this before you bought it.
5: This should maybe be #1 PRICE POINT. $879.00 + high taxes just not worth it. No phone is perfect but "Them Prices way to high Samsung need to CUT IT"!
-You knew this before you bought it.
6: The screen scratches too easily. Fingerprints!
- Glass = fingerprints, that's not unique to this phone. Put it in a premium case that still protects but still shows the look of the phone
7: Fingerprint Sensor. You have to press the button. Plus, I have gotten use to it being on the back.
- No you don't need to press it every time, just rest your finger on it when it asks for it.
8: Touchwiz still lags.
- Cannot be confirmed by everyone.
Then you went on to contradict yourself:
Great phone in every other way. But the "wow" factor is missing for me at this price. The Note is really the best built phone out right now. This is a really hard decision. But with other phones coming out, I will take a wait and see attitude. By October when everything is out, if nothing better is out maybe I will revisit the NOTE 7
lskeys said:
1: Size. I do not like the size. Was hoping it was a little bigger. At least the size on the Note 4 or Nexus SP.
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Its screen has the same size and resolution as the Note 4 and Note 5.
3: Speaker. Cannot hear it some time if I am in another room.
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The speaker works great for things like giving easily-heard directions while driving in a noisy car. I've never tried listening to a phone from another room. I find they're easy to take with me--fit right in my pocket! For music, I use BT headphones.
6: The screen scratches too easily.
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Are you reporting that you've scratched it, or just repeating others' rumors?
apprentice said:
1: Size. I do not like the size. Was hoping it was a little bigger. At least the size on the Note 4 or Nexus SP.
- The screen is the same size so why would you want the body to be bigger? Doesn't make sense.
2: Battery sucks for me. Constantly charging.
- Depends on many many factors and there is always a bedding in period.
3: Speaker. Cannot hear it some time if I am in another room.
- It is down to the water proofing, but I read in many places it is still louder than some previous models.
4: Still no IR Blaster
- You knew this before you bought it.
5: This should maybe be #1 PRICE POINT. $879.00 + high taxes just not worth it. No phone is perfect but "Them Prices way to high Samsung need to CUT IT"!
-You knew this before you bought it.
6: The screen scratches too easily. Fingerprints!
- Glass = fingerprints, that's not unique to this phone. Put it in a premium case that still protects but still shows the look of the phone
7: Fingerprint Sensor. You have to press the button. Plus, I have gotten use to it being on the back.
- No you don't need to press it every time, just rest your finger on it when it asks for it.
8: Touchwiz still lags.
- Cannot be confirmed by everyone.
Then you went on to contradict yourself:
Great phone in every other way. But the "wow" factor is missing for me at this price. The Note is really the best built phone out right now. This is a really hard decision. But with other phones coming out, I will take a wait and see attitude. By October when everything is out, if nothing better is out maybe I will revisit the NOTE 7
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I agree with the apprentice. This is exactly what I am saying about this thread as half of the things mentions are already known before purchasing or just common sense....it isn't a valid reason to then say the phone is a flop and you will be returning it.
Its fair enough to say that the battery is a let down or that the phone is scratching badly because we don't know this prior to having the handset. But to say that the glass gets fingerprints? I'm sure all glass gets finger prints unless it specifically says oleo-phobic and that its finger print proof then you don't have a case. Also to say the phone is expensive? yes it is we all know that but for some like myself i managed to get a very cheap sim only tariff and bought the phone outright. Over the course of 2 years it works out at around £35 per month which is the average for a decent handset and tariff.
It's just really number 5 - buyers remorse.
Nice burn apprentice.
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Why not? You can hand over $879 + tax expecting something more than you eventually got. Then the lack of IR for instance could be offset by other advantages.
Isn't the screen smaller due to 0,1" going AWOL at the edges? So you have 5,5" flat estate and the rest is in the curves? It makes the phone smaller, but there are many 5,5" flat phones out there.
Advising a case to hide your glorious new phone in, is bad imo. It is just Samsung chose one of the worst materials to build a phone. A fragile front is more than enough. Having a backside that is slippery and accident prone is another.
Señor Sjon said:
Why not? You can hand over $879 + tax expecting something more than you eventually got. Then the lack of IR for instance could be offset by other advantages.
Isn't the screen smaller due to 0,1" going AWOL at the edges? So you have 5,5" flat estate and the rest is in the curves? It makes the phone smaller, but there are many 5,5" flat phones out there.
Advising a case to hide your glorious new phone in, is bad imo. It is just Samsung chose one of the worst materials to build a phone. A fragile front is more than enough. Having a backside that is slippery and accident prone is another.
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I agree it would be nice to have 0.2" more of usable screen but that would make the phone much wider and harder to handle.
We all know full well that Samsung were pushed into making their phones better looking and innovative. Journalists, bloggers and even guys like us moaned like hell about plastic or faux leather materials and boring designs. They were losing market shares and they needed to act. So they introduce glass and aluminium, they slim down the whole phone and do an amazing and well received job of making the phone look very sexy, and very different to all the other flat slabs out there. We all say yes! Good job! Samsung is now back on the ball, they sell very well and everyone is happy.... But as is always the case of impossible to please everyone... we get those complaining that they lost the removable batteries and the phone is all slippery and fragile and "I will never buy Samsung again... yada yada" But curved screens, glass and aluminium are here to stay for now because they sell and that is what Samsung is in this game for.
If you want to buy into all that and a lot of us do, then yes, a case is pretty much necessary. And to be fair the cases that Samsung offer really do ensure the phone still looks amazing. And if you need to have better protection there are alternatives.
Im returning mine due to some pink spots on the right side of the screen but not for a refund but for 1 to 1 exchange
Returning mine because its much slower then my note 5. Installs literally take twice as long. It makes no sense.
apprentice said:
I agree it would be nice to have 0.2" more of usable screen but that would make the phone much wider and harder to handle.
We all know full well that Samsung were pushed into making their phones better looking and innovative. Journalists, bloggers and even guys like us moaned like hell about plastic or faux leather materials and boring designs. They were losing market shares and they needed to act. So they introduce glass and aluminium, they slim down the whole phone and do an amazing and well received job of making the phone look very sexy, and very different to all the other flat slabs out there. We all say yes! Good job! Samsung is now back on the ball, they sell very well and everyone is happy.... But as is always the case of impossible to please everyone... we get those complaining that they lost the removable batteries and the phone is all slippery and fragile and "I will never buy Samsung again... yada yada" But curved screens, glass and aluminium are here to stay for now because they sell and that is what Samsung is in this game for.
If you want to buy into all that and a lot of us do, then yes, a case is pretty much necessary. And to be fair the cases that Samsung offer really do ensure the phone still looks amazing. And if you need to have better protection there are alternatives.
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Oh, yes I do agree Samsung was led astray when all the reviewers were whining about plastic phones and the Hansaplast S5 wasn't the best design they could make. Yet plastic is one of the best materials for a phone. It is light, scratch resistant, doesn't block signals or wireless charging and can be made in all colors and shapes. They got it wrong with the yucky feeling S3/S4/Note 2. After the S4 slipped out of my hand again, I got the Note 3 almost as soon as it was available. The faux leather stitching on it is bad, but the back cover gets the job done. After almost three years of use it has zero scratches and it is very grippy. Same as the N4. It survives my wifes handbag for almost two years now, which is no small feat for a phone. I was waiting for the N5, but if I wanted it, it needed parallel importing. That was too much hassle for a slippery phone with no SD-card, small, non-replaceble battery and glass everywhere.
The N7 is better than the N5, but I'll need to think long and hard if and when I'm going to buy it.
I'm definitely returning mine
#1. no Root
#2. Fast charging is fake, not fast at all
#3. Advertized very long battery life, also fake, it drains just as fast as it did in the past phones when playing games, with WiFi On, GPS On, and Bluetooth On.
#4. I'm seeing a lot of scary cracked glass for normal day to day operations (pocket) that is why I never went with Apple phones
#5. The wireless charging doesn't work well with Generic off brand wireless chargers.
#6. SIM card / SD card slot requires pin to pop out, if you push to hard to eject the button breaks off, and you are stuck with the SIM / SD card inside.
This is a Major No No for me, I swap SD card regularly,
in older models it was as easy as 1, 2, 3. (Pop the real case open, eject SD card, insert SD card, done)
I'm not happy at all with the Note 7 mainly due the lack of root, I could have overlooked some of the transgression listed above, but not having root, makes the phone useless to me.
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How bad is the speaker? Currently using nexus 6P but intend to pick one up soon.
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Hi, Learn, if you listen to the naysayers on any forum you would never leave the house and certainly never make another purchase, not even have a hair cut. The Note 7 is a bloody good mobile. Buy it, experience it, if you don't like it you have 14 days to return it so someone else waiting for it can enjoy it. :highfive:
I have to say this Note 7 forum is getting silly. There are dedicated haters here who just post in nearly every thread criticising something they don't even own. Its turning to the point of hysteria on some threads. :silly:
Buy and enjoy.
Ryland
AllGamer said:
I'm definitely returning mine
#1. no Root
#2. Fast charging is fake, not fast at all
#3. Advertized very long battery life, also fake, it drains just as fast as it did in the past phones when playing games, with WiFi On, GPS On, and Bluetooth On.
#4. I'm seeing a lot of scary cracked glass for normal day to day operations (pocket) that is why I never went with Apple phones
#5. The wireless charging doesn't work well with Generic off brand wireless chargers.
#6. SIM card / SD card slot requires pin to pop out, if you push to hard to eject the button breaks off, and you are stuck with the SIM / SD card inside.
This is a Major No No for me, I swap SD card regularly,
in older models it was as easy as 1, 2, 3. (Pop the real case open, eject SD card, insert SD card, done)
I'm not happy at all with the Note 7 mainly due the lack of root, I could have overlooked some of the transgression listed above, but not having root, makes the phone useless to me.
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I have to disagree with a lot of things you have listed here. Especially as you claim fast charging is fake! Even if it wasn't as fast as you liked you can't simply dismiss it as fake. Before buying the phone you must have known about the SD card slot - where else could it go and still retain good water resistance?
But the whole thing about rooting is premature. How many new high end devices are rootable in the first couple of weeks of release? We have hit dead ends before regarding rooting but then someone finds a way through. But if you want it rooted today then I guess that's your reason for dismissing this phone. It makes me wonder why you bought it before looking into this particular issue.
May seem strange to most of you guys but the lack of IR blaster kills it for me. I use it on my note 3 all day everyday. Air-conditioning at work and at home. My TV and set top box. My fan. It's such a small piece of tech with so much use. Kind of annoys me that they took it away.
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I have to disagree with a lot of things you have listed here. Especially as you claim fast charging is fake! Even if it wasn't as fast as you liked you can't simply dismiss it as fake. Before buying the phone you must have known about the SD card slot - where else could it go and still retain good water resistance?
But the whole thing about rooting is premature. How many new high end devices are rootable in the first couple of weeks of release? We have hit dead ends before regarding rooting but then someone finds a way through. But if you want it rooted today then I guess that's your reason for dismissing this phone. It makes me wonder why you bought it before looking into this particular issue.
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I bought into the hype after watching the live unveil in New York.
I was actually checking out the Nexus 6p, as I wanted a new phone with Root.
in the past Samsung phones used to be a safe bet to get root, but seems like since the S7 the game has changed.
Fast charging is as you said not fast enough, 1 hour charge to only get 60% to 70% is not much improvement over the Note 3 / Note 4 charging, somehow the way I use my phones they can drain the battery faster than it can recharge itself.
So battery packs has always been my friend, as I keep several charged battery packs ready to swap in/out.
Reason why I skipped Note 5, due the lack of battery swap. I decided to give Note 7 a try thinking it should have improved, but nope it's just exactly as I guestimated it would perform, and the educated guess was spot on.
I was not really surprised by the charge speed lack of performance, just the Advertisements, and the Unveil event made it such a huge deal that is was like WOW... but in reality it does not really deliver as advertised.
The charge speed performance is no different than previous generation, phone batteries like Note 3 and Note 4, using a normal 2A charger and a battery charger, my batteries pack are full in about 2 hours aprox same time it takes for the Note 7 using the "fast charge" to reach 100%
The so called fast charge to 50% in 30 min is bogus, I was clocking it, it was more like 45min to an Hour depending if the phone was Off or On... which is pretty much the same rate why it takes aprox 2 hours for 100% charge.
The old Notes 3/4, charges at about the same rate as Note 7, so they are just advertising the same old as new, I don't really see any real improvement over previous model.
With the removal of the option to swap battery packs since Note 5, it makes it even less appealing knowing you'll be stuck without battery until you find a plug.
In Note 3 and Note 4, you simply pop out the drained battery and pop in the 100% charged battery, downtime 60 sec at most to open back cover swap the battery and replace the back cover.
The Note 5 and Note 7 downtime ranges until you find a plug, or you carry one of those external battery top up dongles, not very appealing. I know those are very common with Apple users, and I don't like carrying those bulky USB dongles with me.
Battery life If I'm being conservative and turn off GPS, turn off Bluetooth, and turn off WiFi, I can get aprox 3 hours with Note 7, which is again about the same time I get with previous Note 3 and Note 4.
So the claim for an improved battery life is also bogus advertisement.
I still have about 7 days to keep it, if nothing changes by then, it's going back to the store.
The only nice feature I like on the Note 7 is the Iris scanner, and the 4x MIMO, actually that's the only reason the Note 7 picked my interest, I wanted to see if the 4x MIMO would improve signal quality, in poor reception areas, and it did.
so, of all the hyped propagandas during the live unveil and Ads, only the Iris scanner and 4x mimo actually performs as advertised, everything else, not so much, like the "free" game pack that is not available to people in North America >.< ...like really, advertised live during a new york event, and then they said, or sorry that's not for you.

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