I know it's been some time since the 5X came out and I'm thinking of ordering one. Has Google addressed the lag issues that plagued the phone when it first came out? How would you rate smoothness and performance?
I bought one a few days ago , it doesn't lag at all and in term of performance it's really good! It's fluid.
got mine in early december. stock, rooted, adaway, deactivated transition animations (literally all the changes i made). no lag issues so far, app switching is smooth and launching an app is subjectivly as quick as to be expected. from my experience and what i've read it can easily keep up with the SGS6.
If you're stock, then yes.
If you're modding and have custom kernel, then potentially no.
Lag on 5x? Can't say I experienced that.
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Experience the lag quite often now. Especially if I don't reboot it for an extended period of time. Most aggravated by camera use. If I never use the camera, it takes a significantly longer period of time before it starts to lag. If I'm traveling and using the camera constantly, I need to reboot by end of day to get the phone functional again.
Honestly any bit of "lag" issues you may have heard about is nitpicking...the overall experience is very fluid and fast.
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I've had my device for a couple days and haven't had any lag issues what so ever on completely stock unrooted and have used the device a good bit. It makes me think that whatever was an issue when the phone was first released was a hardware issue that has since been resolved behind closed doors.
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I have two, one is mine and one is my wife's. I bought them both on release and hers has been quite the headache. It's already been replaced once for issues with unreasonable amounts of lag compared to mine. Mine has been mostly fine, with the same pain points like Camera/Chrome as her but not as bad. I'm not quite as demanding of the phone as she is. I recently wiped mine and went to an AOSP rom with the ElementalX kernel and haven't experienced any of the same lag doing the same exact same tasks. I may wipe hers first and try the same set up before exchanging it again. I'm leaning heavily towards Google just did not optimize the stock kernel for the 808 chip at all. I really feel like they booted up the first build and went "OK it works, let's ship it" without doing any real testing and optimizing like other manufacturers seem to have done (LG G4, Moto X Pure, basically any other 808 phone).
My phone has never had lag. Smooth as butter.
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I know it's been some time since the 5X came out and I'm thinking of ordering one. Has Google addressed the lag issues that plagued the phone when it first came out? How would you rate smoothness and performance?
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It's there for some and that's probably not going to change. Here's one popular android blog (Android Central) that recently wrote a "3 months w/ the 5X" article. Multiple editors provided their thoughts.
It is hit or miss for me. This is my first Nexus so I don't notice lag often but it is there even though I am decrypted and running a custom rom/kernel. My experience has been mostly positive, I love using the 5X. If I were coming from a previous Nexus, I probably would notice the difference in performance right away however my last device was a dual core S3.
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If you're modding and have custom kernel, then potentially no.
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Nope, stock device here (no root) with zero lag. Snappy performance and the camera is always quick. I only reboot about once per month for the monthly security OTA.
Besides, most CPU governors are tweaked to increase battery life by decreasing clock speeds. Not to increase performance.
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I've had my device for a couple days and haven't had any lag issues what so ever on completely stock unrooted and have used the device a good bit. It makes me think that whatever was an issue when the phone was first released was a hardware issue that has since been resolved behind closed doors.
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I got mine on release day and my device does not lag. The majority of devices do not we're just 10x more likely to hear from those with issues then those without. There has been no hardware revision or change in the 5x, just software updates.
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It's there for some and that's probably not going to change. Here's one popular android blog (Android Central) that recently wrote a "3 months w/ the 5X" article. Multiple editors provided their thoughts.
It is hit or miss for me. This is my first Nexus so I don't notice lag often but it is there even though I am decrypted and running a custom rom/kernel. My experience has been mostly positive, I love using the 5X. If I were coming from a previous Nexus, I probably would notice the difference in performance right away however my last device was a dual core S3.
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My last device was the Nexus 5. The 5x is just as snappy and the graphics performance is far ahead. My device is stock and not rooted BTW. Based on user experiences I've been reading, those with issues are in the minority and experiencing 3rd party software issues. Many have reported success by doing a factory reset without restoring data from another device.
BTW that article is a joke IMO. The only person who mentions how often their performance issues occur mentioned "about once per week" and the rest don't even say.
Obviously some people are having problems with device performance, but I don't believe it's inherent to the device as most are not experiencing such issues and problems only seem to arise once certain types or amounts of background services are running.
My theory: 2GB of RAM on 64 bit OS fills up quicker than 2gb running 32bit. Users are overloading their RAM with background services (possibly aided by a memory leak ala Android 5). It's no secret that many 3rd party background services have really bad memory management.
Yes lag is there. Fresh reset camera everything runs great. Give it a few days (3-4 for me) and you can stop using your camera. Pictures will take 5 seconds to process. I'm not exaggerating. No software fix in sight, and not a peep from Google about this being an issue or a fix in the works. Feel pretty jipped being a pre-order customer.
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Yes lag is there. Fresh reset camera everything runs great. Give it a few days (3-4 for me) and you can stop using your camera. Pictures will take 5 seconds to process. I'm not exaggerating. No software fix in sight, and not a peep from Google about this being an issue or a fix in the works. Feel pretty jipped being a pre-order customer.
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I can second this totally. Pre-ordered the device and seeing lag especially when using the camera...
not really
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It totally depends on how you use it. Overall it's a nice phone
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Nope, stock device here (no root) with zero lag. Snappy performance and the camera is always quick. I only reboot about once per month for the monthly security OTA.
Besides, most CPU governors are tweaked to increase battery life by decreasing clock speeds. Not to increase performance.
I got mine on release day and my device does not lag. The majority of devices do not we're just 10x more likely to hear from those with issues then those without. There has been no hardware revision or change in the 5x, just software updates.
My last device was the Nexus 5. The 5x is just as snappy and the graphics performance is far ahead. My device is stock and not rooted BTW. Based on user experiences I've been reading, those with issues are in the minority and experiencing 3rd party software issues. Many have reported success by doing a factory reset without restoring data from another device.
BTW that article is a joke IMO. The only person who mentions how often their performance issues occur mentioned "about once per week" and the rest don't even say.
Obviously some people are having problems with device performance, but I don't believe it's inherent to the device as most are not experiencing such issues and problems only seem to arise once certain types or amounts of background services are running.
My theory: 2GB of RAM on 64 bit OS fills up quicker than 2gb running 32bit. Users are overloading their RAM with background services (possibly aided by a memory leak ala Android 5). It's no secret that many 3rd party background services have really bad memory management.
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I run custom everything and I prefer it. OOTB, left some things to be desired even though my overall Nexus experience has been great. I agree, we'll always here complaints over positive experiences.
Your theory on ram makes sense from a general level of understanding. For me, ram management on here is awful. A few apps, Maps for instance, reload all too quickly.
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I can second this totally. Pre-ordered the device and seeing lag especially when using the camera...
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I can also second this, I'm looking for custom ROM that will make phone usable again. At this point, I resent returning the N6.
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Short answer, yes it lags and pretty bad. I have to power cycle daily to make it usable. I also thought most reviewers were making unrealistic expectations and we're nitpicking but apparently they weren't
Yes, especially with thermal throttling such as when using navigation, taking videos, or multiple photos in succession.
Mine is horrible. Lag when opening the camera, lag when browsing chrome. My phone is encrypted and I have android wear. Honestly the only thing good about this phone versues my nexus 5 is the fingerprint scanner and the front facing speaker and way better battery life. Other than that I am not liking this phone at all.
I've not been on XDA for quite some time but came on today looming for answers to lag on my 5x.
Totally stock, gets above average use I'd guess, and it starts to lag several times a week.
I I stalled an app called Fast Reboot which seems to help without having to go through the pain of a full power off - but after a couple of weeks that makes little difference now.
Full reboot restores speed, but using the camera a coue of times instantly returns the lag - can take 30 sec+ for camera app to take a photo or close. However the lag starts after a day or two even if I don't use camera at all.
Maybe try a replacement from Google seeing as it seems hit and miss rather than a clear manufacturing/ ROM issue across them all.
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So, I've been running JB for almost 2 days now. As far as I'm concerned battery life is great, speed is awesome, I had no FC or crashes of any kind, I found no particular evidence of this being a development build.
I sincerely don't think that 15 days from now JB is going to be any different from this. Heck, 15 days may only be the time it takes for Google to pack the OTA for all the variants and prepare its servers to push it to millions of phones.
But that's just my thought. Has any of you encountered bugs that are associated to the "development/preview" status of JB?
Like Apple GMs, they leak 2 weeks before and 99% of the time it's the same build that gets released.
Let's share some thoughts
PS: I'm asking this also because there are many people here saying "don't complain about development builds". That is true, one should not complain about dev builds, but it's also true that 15 days can't be enough to solve every bug in the world
Iam using it as daily driver, i thinks its great. I also think the ota we get will be even better, maybe a better kernel, there is one bug happening to me as i am typing, ironicly lol.
Does not happen all the time though.
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as far as I'm concerned this is totally amazing and I really love it so I use it as a daily driver and I think the final version will not be different from this . however battery life is not good for me but maybe that's because I'm using too much the phone he he
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First I notice is after I flash jb I can't see media (photo/videos) in gallery.. but fixed after a new flash without clearing DATA..
Second is I can't connect sixaxis controller..
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My GPS is not working. Everything else is great.
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You're entirely right. Less then a month out from deployment this is clearly a release candidate. If their final release has any differences they will be very minor.
Stability in JB is top notch. Not a single app crash.
However, my battery drain is about 3x more than normal, especially on standby. My phone's been getting hot and that rarely happens with regular use (non-gaming activities).
And the NFC kernal wakelock is on and quite active, even with NFC disabled...
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Stability in JB is top notch. Not a single app crash.
However, my battery drain is about 3x more than normal, especially on standby. My phone's been getting hot and that rarely happens with regular use (non-gaming activities).
And the NFC kernal wakelock is on and quite active, even with NFC disabled...
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I have to say that my Nexus is getting hotter than usual when using it intensively, unlike ICS. Still, battery drain on standby is the same (if not less) than ICS, about 3-5% every 6 hours.
However, while it gets hot during normal use, battery drain seems pretty similar to 4.0.4.
I think it may be due to Project Butter making the GPU work harder, thus warming up the phone. OR, since it gets hot near the top of the device, it may be the new radio being set to a higher wifi/3g transmit power setting.
As far as the OS goes, after a couple more days of use, I'd be surprised if the final version turns out not to be JRN84D
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PS: I'm asking this also because there are many people here saying "don't complain about development builds". That is true, one should not complain about dev builds, but it's also true that 15 days can't be enough to solve every bug in the world
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Well it depends when this build that was put on the I/O Nexii was finished. It could have been finalized a couple weeks ago and there are other things since then that'll be coming in the official OTA.
I'd be surprised if there were large glaring bugs with WiFi, GPS, and UI elements on the official release. You're right they probably can't change anything major, but they've got a few weeks to tweak small things. Not to mention that they can easily follow up with a bugfix OTA a month after it comes out if needed. Remember the GSM models got 4.0.2 and 4.0.4 in relatively quick succession.
I have one of the 2012 Nexus 7s that turned INCREDIBLY sluggish after about 6 months. It is to the point where I don't even use it anymore, my wife uses it to read and I've gone back to my iPad 2 (ugh).
I've read that the problem with the OG Nexus 7 was the flash memory that Asus used, it degraded quickly or caused bottlenecks, or wasn't trimmed properly, etc.
Can someone that is really familiar with this (not just guessing) tell me if the hardware on the Nexus 7 (2013) is built to prevent this? I really want the new N7 because it was the only Android tablet I've bought (also bought XOOM and Transformer) that could replace the iPad 2 for me.
I'm no memory genius, but I did some searching around, followed some blogs and it seems the problem was the actual speed of the memory.
and after seeing comparrison benchmarks, the internal memory on the 2nd Generation was about 2X as fast as the 1st gen. so, while it seems they put in nicer memory, We'll have to wait and find out.
FWIW, i never had a problem with my OG N7, neither did my wife with Her's. both were day 1 purchases.
edit: Source: http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...-just-how-much-faster-is-it-a-lot-apparently/
The main problem with the old N7 even the TF700 (both Tegra 3 devices) was the single channel memory, as well the lousy NAND that was put in the devices which really caused it to lag.
The NAND is by far sub-par on the device and that a MicroSD card can typically help increase the performance by placing all the data on it is pretty bad as MicroSD cards in itself are pretty slow as well even for the best ones.
i got the new one. i feel as tho there is still some slight lag in certain programs. even though it has 2gigs of ram, i would have thought it would be flawless and smooth. maybe it's beccause i just turned it on and started using it. but i can tell you that the chrome browser is way faster on 4.3 than 4.2.2.
also the sound is loud and clear! screen resolution is unbelievable. but with 2gigs of ram, i expected it to be much smoother.
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i got the new one. i feel as tho there is still some slight lag in certain programs. even though it has 2gigs of ram, i would have thought it would be flawless and smooth. maybe it's beccause i just turned it on and started using it. but i can tell you that the chrome browser is way faster on 4.3 than 4.2.2.
also the sound is loud and clear! screen resolution is unbelievable. but with 2gigs of ram, i expected it to be much smoother.
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i just got the new one and it was a bit sluggish until i took the latest OTA. now i'm on JSS15J build it is running really really smooth. love it so far.
Did you run fstrim ("Lagfix.apk") on your original N7?
For what it's worth, Android Police has benchmarked it and said that it's working reasonably well - better than the original. If this is your concern, though, I would wait for Anandtech to review it. They were extremely concerned about flash performance last time around, and I think they'll cover it in their review this time around.
And yes, the JSS15J build does make a hug difference in fluidity. Definitely worth getting it.
I just ran AndroBench not sure how it compared to other current tablets.
Sequential Read 58.8 MB/s
Sequental Write 14.29 MB/s
Random Read 12.01 MB/s 3074 IOPS(4K)
Random Write .84MB/s 216 IOPS(4K)
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Did you run fstrim ("Lagfix.apk") on your original N7?
For what it's worth, Android Police has benchmarked it and said that it's working reasonably well - better than the original. If this is your concern, though, I would wait for Anandtech to review it. They were extremely concerned about flash performance last time around, and I think they'll cover it in their review this time around.
And yes, the JSS15J build does make a hug difference in fluidity. Definitely worth getting it.
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I have been running fstrim on mine, but it still lags horribly. It worked fine for the first few months. I should have known what the quality is like when I had to return my first one because of screen separation issues, then had the same problems with the second one and just kept it.
I am definitely waiting on the anandtech review, because I trust their attention to detail.
I have two "old" N7s. None has any lag !!!!!
Maybe due to constant wipes/flashes ? I kinda leave my daughter's N7 (~14months old) alone and it doesn't have lag that I can notice.
Anyway, Windows lags overtime too. That's why I do an image backup of a fresh installation. Once in awhile, I restore the image to
get a fresh Windows. It helps a lot.
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I have been running fstrim on mine, but it still lags horribly. It worked fine for the first few months. I should have known what the quality is like when I had to return my first one because of screen separation issues, then had the same problems with the second one and just kept it.
I am definitely waiting on the anandtech review, because I trust their attention to detail.
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Good news! http://www.anandtech.com/show/7176/nexus-7-2013-mini-review/4 seems to suggest that not only is the eMMC faster out of the box on the N7-2013 (which I've anecdotally observed), but that they've included fstrim in Android 4.3 for the N7-2012. That suggests that at you should at least see more consistent performance over a longer period of time than the N7-2012 on the new one, and that your N7-2012 should speed itself up a little bit...
So promising, definitely, but I'm guessing if you really wanna know before buying, you'd have to give it a good 4-6 months of someone using it before getting the definitive word on it.
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Good news! http://www.anandtech.com/show/7176/nexus-7-2013-mini-review/4 seems to suggest that not only is the eMMC faster out of the box on the N7-2013 (which I've anecdotally observed), but that they've included fstrim in Android 4.3 for the N7-2012. That suggests that at you should at least see more consistent performance over a longer period of time than the N7-2012 on the new one, and that your N7-2012 should speed itself up a little bit...
So promising, definitely, but I'm guessing if you really wanna know before buying, you'd have to give it a good 4-6 months of someone using it before getting the definitive word on it.
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I totally agree it's faster. Just loaded up my tablet... 435 Meg free. Nice and quick still. No issues. Delete the items using the space up and very quick still. Benchmarked nearly identical.
Performance has been top notch. Games are quick, large ones at that, switching between apps have been quick.
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Sluggish?? My nexus 7 32gb has 5gb left of storage after putting my movies and shows and it has no sluggish apps or any slowdown problems.
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i noticed immediately how much faster the new n7 is compared to my old one. its like night & day.
I think the real problem with the old Nexus 7 is Android 4.2.
Like many others who remained on or switched back to 4.1, I can tell my device runs as snappy as ever.
Sure, the memory may not be the best / fastest, but these annoying lag problems people report of are most probably simply due to 4.2 or other misconfigurations. People just don't wanna acknowledge it because they think: "Back to 4.1? Never!" or such.
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I think the real problem with the old Nexus 7 is Android 4.2.
Like many others who remained on or switched back to 4.1, I can tell my device runs as snappy as ever.
Sure, the memory may not be the best / fastest, but these annoying lag problems people report of are most probably simply due to 4.2 or other misconfigurations. People just don't wanna acknowledge it because they think: "Back to 4.1? Never!" or such.
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Why not custom ROMs...?
Hi guys, I ordered Nexus 5X but I'm really worried about it's performance.. I heard so much about lag that I'm seriously thinking about cancelling my order and getting Nexus 6P instead.. Are issues like laggy Chrome, laggy google keyboard, throttling.. real? Thank you
Laggy keyboard (and touch screen lag in general)- a problem for some devices when fast-charging with the OEM charger. Sol'n - buy or hassle google into giving you a playstore 3amp generic charger (which has a proper ground).
Throttling - will throttle is put through multiple benchmarks. Sol'n - just use your device. There may be some throttling when gaming etc. You won't notice or care except to be pleasantly surprised at how little heat it produced under stress.
Never had a problem with lag in chrome except on pages with multiple adds and that's just an internets problem.
Hmm, thank you.. But then, why are so many people complaining about lag? In every review they are complaining about lag..
Mayy i ask what reviews you are talking about? I have yet to say one that says that from a semi-credible source. Note! There are many many android specific websites but only a small amount of them would i consider to be trustworthy in general.
I cant recall names of them all, but Verge for example. And they are many people having lag and complaining in a forums too: https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/nexus/VDpAhli9X3c;context-place=topicsearch/5x$20lag . So you guys seriously have 0 lag and it running buttery smooth all the time?
I feel performance is basically identical to my Nexus 5 for everyday use. I can't comment much on gaming or heavy 3D applications as I have only played a few minor games.
so far my phones runs completely smooth. the fast-charging lag is present, but the phone thankfully doesn't have to spend to much time on the cord. lag related to ad-loaded websites is easily dealt with via adblockers, and has nothing to do with the device.
now most importantly consider that the complainers more often than not will make the most noise. there are a lot of devices out there, especially those with successful predecessors, that in general are perfectly fine, but for example didn't meet the expectations of people who tend to be vocal about that.
I know that there have been some reports/complaints of lag here and on reddit, but I can't reconcile them with my experience. I think they must be attributable to poorly coded apps or bad hardware. My 5X has not given me any problems at all and is entirely lag free (I am bone stock by the way). Note that I am not a big gamer, so I can't really speak to that use case.
Now, there is no doubt that the 6P has higher specs. If you wan the highest specs available, you should get the 6P. But, in terms of real-world usability the 5X is great. I would suggest taking a look at the performance charts in the Anandtech review of the 6P -- you will see that in most (not all) respects the 5X is actually quite close to the 6P in terms of performance.
Lastly, the 2 GB of RAM was a worry for me when I purchased the 5X but it has absolutely not been an issue. Right now, my 5X is on its 10th day of uptime. 38 apps have used memory in the last 24 hours, and I currently have 483 MB free. Outside of android processes and Chrome (which is a hog), the next highest memory use for an app is sitting at 66 MB. In other words, I still have plenty of overhead RAM-wise.
Hey there. I've got my Nexus 5X two weeks ago, and I have been experiencing issues with it, however, I believe they are entirely software related.
Just a little while ago, my phone got in a terrible state. Something was using the Location constantly, and the CPU was at 100% at all times. The phone slowed down to a crawl, and I had to eventually reboot it.
All that has led me here to the forum, to see if fellow XDA members have found the culprit. And, judging from the other posts, I seem to be right, and this seems to be entirely software related, and related to some app that I have installed - though I'm not letting Android off the hook yet. I'm in a bit of a problematic situation, as I have no means of connecting my phone to my computer (I haven't bought an USB type C to type A cable yet), so, I can't root and investigate further right now.
All in all - I don't really worry. I'm sure all of this can get fixed. I'll try a new kernel and a process monitor as soon as I find a way to root my phone, get a custom recovery on it, etc. But yes, as of right now, there seems to be something misconfigured with the Nexus 5X, as I hear no complaints from my friend who has a Nexus 5 running Marshmallow, and as far as I have read - no complaints from Nexus 6P users, either.
Will try to update you if I find any data!
Thank you guys, but I'm not getting Nexus 5X. I can't risk anything.. I need smooth and fast phone from day 1.. So I'm getting Nexus 6P instead..
This phone is fast and snappy. My friend's 6p is the same.
CPU performance of the 808 and 810 are very similar.
Performance issues any might be experiencing would be software related. My 5x is smooth and snappy at all times, especially the camera: it's lightning fast compared to my N5 which was no slouch. Gaming performance is also a huge step up from my N5, it actually runs cooler and longer while pumping out higher sustained FPS.
I'd even say there's no faster device you can buy new for $379.
Hi all- I am thinking about getting the 5X as a replacement for my wife's faltering Lumia.She has had the Lumia for about 1.5 years and it has been great but lately the battery is dying quickly and it is prone to freezing,and there is no way to power it off!You have to wait for it to die and then restart.
I have read that the drawbacks of the 5X are poor battery life and a stuttering UI.The Lumia always had great battery and was buttery smooth as well as having an amazing camera so I don't want the 5X to feel like a downgrade.
I have been flashing since I had my Droid Incredible way back when so I would have no problem with applying a Custom ROM to the 5X to smooth out the experience.
So I am looking for ROM recommendations that deal with the stock units shortcomings.I am guessing that installing Chroma or Pure Nexus or some other custom ROM will tackle those issues.
Thanks!
If you notice in the threads that people complain about a laggy UI there are just as many users saying they have never experienced that issue. I'm one of the latter.
Decrypt the phone and install Pure Nexus, that's all I needed for a perfect user experience. :good:
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If you notice in the threads that people complain about a laggy UI there are just as many users saying they have never experienced that issue. I'm one of the latter.
Decrypt the phone and install Pure Nexus, that's all I needed for a perfect user experience. :good:
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Good to know-that's about what I figured.Thanks for the feedback!
Stock device here with no performance or battery issues, I don't even have root access or need to reboot my device. Just do a clean install and don't restore from a previous device as many of those with issues seem to have done so.
The camera is one of the best in a smartphone right now (same as Nexus 6p), as is the highly accurate IPS panel tested to be more accurate than the one used with the more expensive iPhone 6s.
i would give it a week and use the phone as it comes (apart from maybe an adblocker, which for me is a mandatory thing). honestly the 5x is a great device, and a lot of those shortcomings that are talked about in reality turn out to be related to certain apps.
as you may guess, my own device is still on stock and i feel no need at all for another rom. battery life is great, fast charging is a great feature, and apps on my end start up near instantaneous even though the phone is encrypted.
of course there are some mild annoyances as with every other device and OS. when it comes to the 5x these were basically limited to doze, which is a great feature, which may have to be manually disabled for certain apps like GMail.
in the end it comes down to your wifes habits, the apps and usage, and the expectations she brings upon her phone. see if she is pleased with the phone (at all). if she isn't you can then take on those issues specifically. after all the closer you stay to stock, the less maintenance there is to do.
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Stock device here with no performance or battery issues, I don't even have root access or need to reboot my device. Just do a clean install and don't restore from a previous device as many of those with issues seem to have done so.
The camera is one of the best in a smartphone right now (same as Nexus 6p), as is the highly accurate IPS panel tested to be more accurate than the one used with the more expensive iPhone 6s.
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Interesting information-thanks.
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i would give it a week and use the phone as it comes (apart from maybe an adblocker, which for me is a mandatory thing). honestly the 5x is a great device, and a lot of those shortcomings that are talked about in reality turn out to be related to certain apps.
as you may guess, my own device is still on stock and i feel no need at all for another rom. battery life is great, fast charging is a great feature, and apps on my end start up near instantaneous even though the phone is encrypted.
of course there are some mild annoyances as with every other device and OS. when it comes to the 5x these were basically limited to doze, which is a great feature, which may have to be manually disabled for certain apps like GMail.
in the end it comes down to your wifes habits, the apps and usage, and the expectations she brings upon her phone. see if she is pleased with the phone (at all). if she isn't you can then take on those issues specifically. after all the closer you stay to stock, the less maintenance there is to do.
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Pretty sound advice-she is not a power user.Or a heavy App user either.Just basic functions and she will be used to a great Camera so that matters.Stock may be just fine for her but I also know the power of a well-developed ROM can make a good or great device even better. Thanks for the input.
Have had mine since launch. Battery life is fine (lasts morning to evening with heave use; 24+ hours on light to moderate use), and the device does not stutter. UI is smooth and the device multitasks well. I am stock, unrooted, and encrypted. I don't game, however.
The only two criticisms of the 5X that I feel are at all valid are: an average (at best) speakerphone; and low output from the headphone jack. With regard to the former, the speaker will get the job done but is definitely not great. With regard to the latter, the 5X supports USB audio so if you are really serious about your music that's the way to go.
From what I have seen here and on reddit, it really is a good idea not to restore from a previous device. It does seem to be something of a common factor among folks that claim to have issues.
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Have had mine since launch. Battery life is fine (lasts morning to evening with heave use; 24+ hours on light to moderate use), and the device does not stutter. UI is smooth and the device multitasks well. I am stock, unrooted, and encrypted. I don't game, however.
The only two criticisms of the 5X that I feel are at all valid are: an average (at best) speakerphone; and low output from the headphone jack. With regard to the former, the speaker will get the job done but is definitely not great. With regard to the latter, the 5X supports USB audio so if you are really serious about your music that's the way to go.
From what I have seen here and on reddit, it really is a good idea not to restore from a previous device. It does seem to be something of a common factor among folks that claim to have issues.
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Good to know-well we would be setting up a fresh device,no restore for sure.
I had Volume issues on my Nexus 6 only when playing music oddly.Phone and Bluetooth and GPS were actually quite loud and I had to adjust down.You need Root,but with ES File Explorer I was able to edit the “mixer_paths.xml” file and setting all values that were "84" to "99" solved my problem.Not sure if that would work on a 5X although in theory it should,perhaps there may be a similar hack that a Google search would uncover.Thanks for the input.
These micro lags makes the phones processor feel like it's from 2018, can't scroll through anything without having all these micro lags and jitters, same with light gaming, I don't think this processer can handle to much?
If the next update doesn't fix these issues then I don't think they will be fixed?
I haven't had this problem in the last two months I've been using the phone. My wife hasn't complained about her games - I generally don't game very much.
Have never once felt a jitter or lag.....not once. For me this phone has been a pleasure to use. I rooted right out of the box and have since done an update and switched to another rom without a hitch really. except one hiccup i was having with a bootloop. Which proved to be me not disabling mods before the flash. I absolutely love this phone. I am not seeing any of the issues that people are reporting. I also believe that a LOT of reports are bogus. ( Not saying that this is the case here).
I think these "jitters/lag" you are experiencing are due to the framerate getting locked to 60hz. This happens with mine ever day or two. After a reboot it will be smooth. My guess is there is a "bug" from an app or something causing the framerate to lock at 60hz, rather than the 120hz. I haven't quite figured out how to resolve, other than a reboot. It is quite annoying, and I am hoping a future update (if we ever get one!) will fix it.
I've noticed lag when typing. I do use gboard as most of the people do. I do type with two languages activated. Every now and then the phone lags for about a second.
I thought google had already acknowledge that the phone does lag when the battery percentage drops.
Something about accessibility and animations as far as I remember.
Lol that's the first thing I noticed straight from a clean setup twice, Cod mobile is a jittery mess but perfectly fine on my OP 8 Pro and every time I swiped left for Google now it would jitter, Not all the time but it did do it frequently.
Cod mobile was jittery as hell for me as well. After the Dec update it is not jittery anymore but playing on it is really weird. I can't get used to it so i still play on my Poco x3
Mine studders for sure a few times a day for a few seconds. Factor reset didn't help. This phone feels like it's 8 years old with the stutters and the fingerprint reader that doesn't work.
Very smooth experience for me for gaming and all my everyday tasks.
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Lol that's the first thing I noticed straight from a clean setup twice, Cod mobile is a jittery mess but perfectly fine on my OP 8 Pro and every time I swiped left for Google now it would jitter, Not all the time but it did do it frequently.
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Yeah my OnePlus Nord gen1 runs far smoother than this phone lol, so weird, if it's not fixed by the next update then I'm selling it for galaxy s21 Fe 5g, SD 888
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Lol that's the first thing I noticed straight from a clean setup twice, Cod mobile is a jittery mess but perfectly fine on my OP 8 Pro and every time I swiped left for Google now it would jitter, Not all the time but it did do it frequently.
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Always gonna be a beta tester on this phone I think
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Cod mobile was jittery as hell for me as well. After the Dec update it is not jittery anymore but playing on it is really weird. I can't get used to it so i still play on my Poco x3
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Yeah cod mobile is a jittery mess here on November software I can't play it all can't get used to it, I've ditched it for now and playing on my OP 8 Pro buttery smooth on 8 Pro.
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Yeah my OnePlus Nord gen1 runs far smoother than this phone lol, so weird, if it's not fixed by the next update then I'm selling it for galaxy s21 Fe 5g, SD 888
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I think some people are in denial about this handset to be honest, Ok be thing I have learned over the years never trust the usual YouTubers they know who they are and are scripted.
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Always gonna be a beta tester on this phone I think
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Well the fact they can't even roll an update out without bricking people's phones kind of says it all really, The software features this device is missing will never get added by Google never it's not in their nature they couldn't care less what the user thinks.
You have to check the Google forums to see most complaint threads have been locked by admins to give you an idea of how little **** they give.
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Mine studders for sure a few times a day for a few seconds. Factor reset didn't help. This phone feels like it's 8 years old with the stutters and the fingerprint reader that doesn't work.
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That's what it's doing here it's like the CPU or GPU is asleep then all of a sudden wakes up after It's too late lol
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I think these "jitters/lag" you are experiencing are due to the framerate getting locked to 60hz. This happens with mine ever day or two. After a reboot it will be smooth. My guess is there is a "bug" from an app or something causing the framerate to lock at 60hz, rather than the 120hz. I haven't quite figured out how to resolve, other than a reboot. It is quite annoying, and I am hoping a future update (if we ever get one!) will fix it.
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That is another possibility and another reason why I hate Google phones they don't even have refresh rate locks just a "Smooth" option but still jitters.
Just found another bug lol try scrolling fast in opposite directions in messages it just freezes and gets confused and sits there like it can't understand fast opposite direction of scrolling lol, Amazing how these devices get released in these states really.
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Well the fact they can't even roll an update out without bricking people's phones kind of says it all really, The software features this device is missing will never get added by Google never it's not in their nature they couldn't care less what the user thinks.
You have to check the Google forums to see most complaint threads have been locked by admins to give you an idea of how little **** they give.
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I no and people dis oneui, Samsung have came such a long way to be honest, at least they're phones are smooth and the extra features that's on oneui is what the consumers asked for, even with all the added features it doesn't hinder battery life, yah can't even screen cast on this phone without a chrome cast, people say about a clean stock software but but what's the point, not like as if it's better battery and performance, I get better performance and battery out of my S20 Fe 5g
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Well the fact they can't even roll an update out without bricking people's phones kind of says it all really, The software features this device is missing will never get added by Google never it's not in their nature they couldn't care less what the user thinks.
You have to check the Google forums to see most complaint threads have been locked by admins to give you an idea of how little **** they give.
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They definitely didn't "brick" from the update. Do you know what "brick" means?
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can't scroll through anything without having all these micro lags and jitters
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If a scrollable list is implemented as a scrollview, data will be loaded into it dynamically, AS you scroll through it. Depending on the speed and latency of the data source (for example, loading over the network), and the complexity of generating each element, you may occasionally scroll beyond the loaded data, requiring an interruption that you might perceive as a "lag" or "jitter".
So really there can be two causes that do NOT imply a CPU performance issue; data source, and bad code. A competent programmer can load data from the network in a more effective manner and ensure that processing overhead is minimized, thus reducing the negative effects.
Unfortunately, with mobile, like web, competent programmers are like a drop of water in the ocean.