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SuperSU and Stock Recovery

is there away to install SuperSU when you have stock recovery? I'm thinking that we have to have either CWM/TWRP to install the zip. or am I having a brain fart on this.....
Thanks for whomever can clear my cobwebs..

You need a custom recovery (TWRP or CWM).

bkeaver said:
is there away to install SuperSU when you have stock recovery? I'm thinking that we have to have either CWM/TWRP to install the zip. or am I having a brain fart on this.....
Thanks for whomever can clear my cobwebs..
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You can install it if you have the bootloader unlocked.
Use boot command instead of flash to boot into custom recovery and install su.
e.g
Fastboot boot twrp.img

uronfire said:
You can install it if you have the bootloader unlocked.
Use boot command instead of flash to boot into custom recovery and install su.
e.g
Fastboot boot twrp.img
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Yes, this.
However, why bother keeping stock recovery at all? Stock recovery is effectively neutered once rooted, as you can no longer install an OTA.

uronfire said:
You can install it if you have the bootloader unlocked.
Use boot command instead of flash to boot into custom recovery and install su.
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Fastboot boot twrp.img
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Thanks this worked :good:

so when I go into recovery now I get a image of a htc one with a red triangle and exclamation mark inside of it?? since I have never went into recovery on this phone before isn't it supposed to look like any other stock recovery??? and if this isn't right I have tried flashing the recovery already and still get the same result... can someone expand on this for me pls

bkeaver said:
so when I go into recovery now I get a image of a htc one with a red triangle and exclamation mark inside of it?? since I have never went into recovery on this phone before isn't it supposed to look like any other stock recovery??? and if this isn't right I have tried flashing the recovery already and still get the same result... can someone expand on this for me pls
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You have stock recovery.

BenPope said:
You have stock recovery.
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so it doesn't give you flash update and wipe and all that anymore.. sorry like I said I have never went into recovery on this phone.. just making sure...

bkeaver said:
so it doesn't give you flash update and wipe and all that anymore.. sorry like I said I have never went into recovery on this phone.. just making sure...
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I think you have to hold volume up and hit power or something.

ok I am good.. thank you... I'm putting everything back to stock because someone bought my phone and I just want to make sure everything is correct on it now.. thanks!!

redpoint73 said:
Yes, this.
However, why bother keeping stock recovery at all? Stock recovery is effectively neutered once rooted, as you can no longer install an OTA.
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i sold the phone and this is what they requested. I know the OTA wont work and I never keep stock recoveries on my phones but.... I guess they will find out for themselves

and btw thanks everyone for the help. I hit my thanks button but on my browser it it isn't showing it just to let you know....

bkeaver said:
i sold the phone and this is what they requested. I know the OTA wont work and I never keep stock recoveries on my phones but.... I guess they will find out for themselves
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Sounds like somebody that is a bit ill-informed. They want root, but they probably also want OTA (the 2 don't go together, IMO) and heard that you need stock recovery for OTA. I suppose they can change everything back that they modified with root, and unroot or hide root to install the OTA. But it just seems they are making life more complicated than it needs to be.
Also sounds like its a person that wants root, but not willing to do it themselves. But I suppose that's not really your problem!

Option to root and have ota is very easy :
Stock rom (unmodified but rooted)
Stock recovery
And you can ota. The ota will probably delete superuser but that's about it. The ota will not fail because its rooted as long as the stock rom/apps are unmodified

Mr Hofs said:
Option to root and have ota is very easy :
Stock rom (unmodified but rooted)
Stock recovery
And you can ota. The ota will probably delete superuser but that's about it. The ota will not fail because its rooted as long as the stock rom/apps are unmodified
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yeah this is what I did for them so who knows.. I've never tried it that way but i guess it would work like that

redpoint73 said:
Yes, this.
However, why bother keeping stock recovery at all? Stock recovery is effectively neutered once rooted, as you can no longer install an OTA.
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Rooting doesn't affect ota's, at least not in my experience.

ashyx said:
Rooting doesn't affect ota's, at least not in my experience.
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Only if absolutely nothing was changed with the stock ROM.
Its more my point there is little point to installing OTAs on a rooted device.

redpoint73 said:
Only if absolutely nothing was changed with the stock ROM.
Its more my point there is little point to installing OTAs on a rooted device.
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I don't understand that statement. I still run stock sense, but with a few additions that don't affect ota's. So I still get updates while having things configured the way I want. I can also run things that require root such as titanium backup and a few others.

ashyx said:
I don't understand that statement. I still run stock sense, but with a few additions that don't affect ota's. So I still get updates while having things configured the way I want. I can also run things that require root such as titanium backup and a few others.
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Because once you accept an OTA, you will be unrooted. You will have to root again, either by installing custom recovery (than back to stock recovery so you can OTA) or the trick of booting custom recovery via adb to flash SU (as described here). Its just a lot of jumping through hoops with little added value.
On the other hand, if you have custom recovery installed, you can flash any of the array of stock rooted or awesome custom ROMs posted here. This includes stock rooted ROMs taken from OTA updates from lots of versions (often posted within days of the OTA starting to roll out), not just your carrier, so you can possibly get an update much faster than waiting for the OTA to roll out from your carrier (although that depends on what carrier version you have). You also don't have to constantly be worried "well, if I change this I won't get OTAs". You can do whatever the heck you want, and isn't that really the whole point of root?
Its just my opinion. And a lot of this may stem from the fact that I'm on AT&T, who are not only agonizingly slow about rolling out OTAs (sometimes 3-4 months or even later than other carriers on my past HTC device) and have even went to the effort to close exploits and prevent unlocking of bootloaders when rolling out new OTAs (on the One X EVITA). In fact there was even a bug (I assume it was a bug - others may accuse that it was intentional) where installing the Jellybean OTA with SuperCID and S-on bricked the phone.
As I said, its just an opinion. But there are many others on XDA that will agree that OTAs have no place on rooted Android devices.
And to be fair, I did cover myself and stated "there is little point" instead of "there is no point"

Update and reverting to stock recovery

Ho guys
I recently rooted my phone so I could move files into my sd card (heard it was fixed with the last update?) and had to install a custom recovery.. Seems like I can't install the update with a custom recovery on.. Would going back to stock recovery fix this? Would I still have my phone rooted? Would it reset my phone again doing so? Thanks in advance

indafeis said:
Ho guys
I recently rooted my phone so I could move files into my sd card (heard it was fixed with the last update?) and had to install a custom recovery.. Seems like I can't install the update with a custom recovery on.. Would going back to stock recovery fix this? Would I still have my phone rooted? Would it reset my phone again doing so? Thanks in advance
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Hi, if you go back to stock it will reset your phone and yes, you can root a stock recovery. if you unlock your bootloader you can permroot your stock rom,
here is the perfect guide how to do it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2265618

haruryu said:
if you unlock your bootloader you can permroot your stock rom,
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Since OP has custom recovery, they must have unlocked the bootloader.
My advice to the OP, since you are already bootloader unlocked, custom recovery, and root; just flash a stock rooted or custom ROM based on the updated software. Going back to a stock is a step backwards at this point, not forwards.

Same problem
redpoint73 said:
Since OP has custom recovery, they must have unlocked the bootloader.
My advice to the OP, since you are already bootloader unlocked, custom recovery, and root; just flash a stock rooted or custom ROM based on the updated software. Going back to a stock is a step backwards at this point, not forwards.
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Hi, I'd like to update my rooted M8 to 4.4.3 as well and don't (yet) want a custom ROM. I searched a bit and found this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2694994
Can I use this odexed file? And do I need a stock recovery? If yes, can I use this link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1228648

DaFlouw said:
Hi, I'd like to update my rooted M8 to 4.4.3 as well and don't (yet) want a custom ROM. I searched a bit and found this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2694994
Can I use this odexed file? And do I need a stock recovery?
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No, you do no need stock recovery to flash the linked stock ROM. You flash this with custom recovery.
Odexed will work. If you don't understand the difference between odexed vs. doedexed, than do a search and learn the difference, and what it will mean to you.

redpoint73 said:
No, you do no need stock recovery to flash the linked stock ROM. You flash this with custom recovery.
Odexed will work. If you don't understand the difference between odexed vs. doedexed, than do a search and learn the difference, and what it will mean to you.
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Thank you.
After doing my research, I think I'll pick de deoxeded version, as customization is easier. But is there really a noticeable difference in speed? I will most likely just install xposed modules, should I therefore pick deoxeded or do they have nothing related? (I didn't get what kind of customization is meant in the wikis)
Sorry for asking so many questions

DaFlouw said:
After doing my research, I think I'll pick de deoxeded version, as customization is easier. But is there really a noticeable difference in speed? I will most likely just install xposed modules, should I therefore pick deoxeded or do they have nothing related? (I didn't get what kind of customization is meant in the wikis)
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Xposed should work with both deodexed and odexed ROMs; while other mods may require deodexed.
Whether there is a noticeable performance difference between odexed/deodexed, the following links saya no, with the exception of booting after clearing Dalvik:
http://www.redmondpie.com/odexed-vs-deodexed-the-difference-between-the-two-android-roms-explained/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1851750

advice please

was wondering can i just root my m8 without flashing recovery all i want is to install adaway to block ads thats if someone could please advise

Depending on what build you are on (newer ones can't go it), you may be able to fastboot boot recovery instead of flashing recovery. Once booted into recovery, you can flash SU or SuperSU.
You need to be bootloader unlocked either way. So I actually don't see a point in doing what you ask. Once you root, you can always install stock recovery again.

redpoint73 said:
Depending on what build you are on (newer ones can't go it), you may be able to fastboot boot recovery instead of flashing recovery. Once booted into recovery, you can flash SU or SuperSU.
You need to be bootloader unlocked either way. So I actually don't see a point in doing what you ask. Once you root, you can always install stock recovery again.
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ok thanks i get phone tomorrow so will give it a go i used to have s5 which was easy to root this sounds complicated

pnr2020 said:
ok thanks i get phone tomorrow so will give it a go i used to have s5 which was easy to root this sounds complicated
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Every device and manufacturer has its own subtle differences and learning curve. Its really not what hard, just read up and make sure you understand before messing around with it.

pnr2020 said:
was wondering can i just root my m8 without flashing recovery all i want is to install adaway to block ads thats if someone could please advise
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Follow this guide for rooting.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/general/vomerguides-m8-bootldr-unlock-s-off-t2800727
but as redpoint73 said you have to unlock bootloader and install custom recovery.

Rantrave07 said:
but as redpoint73 said you have to unlock bootloader and install custom recovery.
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That is not exactly what I said. If the phone is 4.4.3 or 4.4.2, OP should be able to fastboot boot recovery without flashing it. Then flash SU/SuperSU. I've seen others do it this way, although I personally don't see much point to it.
But yes, bootloader still needs to be unlocked.

redpoint73 said:
That is not exactly what I said. If the phone is 4.4.3 or 4.4.2, OP should be able to fastboot boot recovery without flashing it. Then flash SU/SuperSU. I've seen others do it this way, although I personally don't see much point to it.
But yes, bootloader still needs to be unlocked.
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yeah one can always flash the stock recovery after rooting.

redpoint73 said:
That is not exactly what I said. If the phone is 4.4.3 or 4.4.2, OP should be able to fastboot boot recovery without flashing it. Then flash SU/SuperSU. I've seen others do it this way, although I personally don't see much point to it.
But yes, bootloader still needs to be unlocked.
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Booting it instead of flashing it is better if you want to make a backup of stock recovery. Especially if it's Philz that you're booting since TWRP doesn't seem to make backups of the stock recovery anyways.
Using the dd command to make a "copy" of the recovery works if you're rooted and to be rooted you have to have custom recovery which doesn't help much since you lose stock recovery the moment you flash the custom one, but if you boot it and root then at least you can use the dd command if that is the way you want to make a "backup" of your stock recovery. Silly little circle to run around in

BerndM14 said:
Booting it instead of flashing it is better if you want to make a backup of stock recovery. Especially if it's Philz that you're booting since TWRP doesn't seem to make backups of the stock recovery anyways.
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Yes, I was aware of that; although it didn't seem to be the OP's goal. But thanks for pointing it out for their benefit.

thanks everyone for advice im sure i will get it right just one more quick question can you still upgrade with OTA when rooted or is it like other phones where you can not

Rantrave07 said:
Follow this guide for rooting.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/general/vomerguides-m8-bootldr-unlock-s-off-t2800727
but as redpoint73 said you have to unlock bootloader and install custom recovery.
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thank you for the guide that makes it sound straight forward

pnr2020 said:
thank you for the guide that makes it sound straight forward
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:good: glad it helped

The m8 was a little complicated at first than my previous phone the nexus 5 but I figured out the m8 and I love it a lot more than my n5

spinninbsod said:
The m8 was a little complicated at first than my previous phone the nexus 5 but I figured out the m8 and I love it a lot more than my n5[/QUOE
At first i wasn't sure i liked it but im getting used to it. When lollypop comes out do i need to restore to stock or can i just OTA and root again
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pnr2020 said:
spinninbsod said:
The m8 was a little complicated at first than my previous phone the nexus 5 but I figured out the m8 and I love it a lot more than my n5[/QUOE
At first i wasn't sure i liked it but im getting used to it. When lollypop comes out do i need to restore to stock or can i just OTA and root again
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To get updates you need a stock ROM unmodified, it can be rooted just do not mess with build.prop or platform.xml. However, to be able to install updates you need a stock recovery.
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XSL-FO said:
pnr2020 said:
To get updates you need a stock ROM unmodified, it can be rooted just do not mess with build.prop or platform.xml. However, to be able to install updates you need a stock recovery.
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thank you for info so if i stay on stock rom rooted i will have no trouble installing lollypop when released
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pnr2020 said:
XSL-FO said:
thank you for info so if i stay on stock rom rooted i will have no trouble installing lollypop when released
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As long as you have a stock recovery it's all good. But even if you have a custom one, before doing the update install a custom recovery. Make the update, and after that if you want flash again a custom recovery.
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root problem please help

Hello everyone im new to this forum and i got a problem i think u guys can help me with.. . First of all i have to tell that i know nothing about rooting. Recently i bought an used HTC one m8 from a friend and had kitkat on the device. so i tried to check for updates. but i saw the option is missing. so after few minutes i get to know that this device is rooted, when i see the information about the phone. there is an app called super su and when i open it it says "there is no super su binary installed and super su cannot install it.....( ithink you guys know the rest) so i tried two days googling the problem and did everythin i can. but no results. root checking apps say that this device is not rooted but it is.. (some kind of half rooted i think ) so can anyone please be so kind to help me.....?. (sorry for my bad english if it is )

Its not clear what you want to do, update or root, or both (update then root)?

redpoint73 said:
Its not clear what you want to do, update or root, or both (update then root)?
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i need to update my device to Marshmallow. and if possible i need to unroot the phone back to stock. thanx

redpoint73 said:
Its not clear what you want to do, update or root, or both (update then root)?
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please help me....

Instruction to return to stock to update are here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/help/tutorial-how-to-stock-stock-twrp-t3086860
To determine what version number to restore, what does it say for OS number on the bootloader screen?

4.16.401.13

Tharinduroshan said:
4.16.401.13
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Then that is the stock TWRP backup and stock recovery you want to restore, from the thread I posted. After you restore to stock, it should OTA update to Marshmallow.

redpoint73 said:
Then that is the stock TWRP backup and stock recovery you want to restore, from the thread I posted. After you restore to stock, it should OTA update to Marshmallow.
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Does this process involve turning on the phone in recovery mode. Because I can't do that. my mobile shows a red triangle and exclamation mark when I try to start in recovery mode

Tharinduroshan said:
Does this process involve turning on the phone in recovery mode. Because I can't do that. my mobile shows a red triangle and exclamation mark when I try to start in recovery mode
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In s-on devices, it is not giving access to stock recovery directly. The first coming exclamation mark is normal. In that occasion if you want to access recovery; while pressing power button, press volume up. However you don't need to go to recovery.
1) If your bootloader is locked, unlock it. http://www.htcdev.com/bootloader/
2) flash twrp (TWRP 2.8.7.0)
3) restore backup (4.16.401.13)
4) flash stock recovery (4.16.401.13)
5) check updates
(the thread given by redpoint73 includes information A-Z to stock)

thank you both redpoint73 and umesh. Really appreciate the help. Im gonna try this and return to you if i have any problem

Tharinduroshan said:
Does this process involve turning on the phone in recovery mode. Because I can't do that. my mobile shows a red triangle and exclamation mark when I try to start in recovery mode
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That is the stock (official HTC) recovery; from there you can press power+vol up to show the stock recovery menu options. But as a previous reply mentioned, stock recovery isn't going to help you (restore stock TWRP backup, etc.). For that, you need to unlock the bootloader (if not already) and install TWRP custom recovery.
The bootloader screen, near the top, will indicate whether the bootloader is LOCKED, RELOCKED or UNLOCKED. If LOCKED or RELOCKED, unlock it as mentioned in Post #9 above.
My guess is that the previous owner restored stock recovery in a botched attempt to return the phone to stock. By "botched" I mean they didn't properly restore the stock ROM to remove root. But following the guide I linked previously will do that properly.

redpoint73 said:
That is the stock (official HTC) recovery; from there you can press power+vol up to show the stock recovery menu options. But as a previous reply mentioned, stock recovery isn't going to help you (restore stock TWRP backup, etc.). For that, you need to unlock the bootloader (if not already) and install TWRP custom recovery.
The bootloader screen, near the top, will indicate whether the bootloader is LOCKED, RELOCKED or UNLOCKED. If LOCKED or RELOCKED, unlock it as mentioned in Post #9 above.
My guess is that the previous owner restored stock recovery in a botched attempt to return the phone to stock. By "botched" I mean they didn't properly restore the stock ROM to remove root. But following the guide I linked previously will do that properly.
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In bootloader it shows UNLOCKED

Tharinduroshan said:
In bootloader it shows UNLOCKED
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That's good, in your case.
Just install TWRP, restore the previously indicated stock TWRP backup, install corresponding stock recovery, and update OTA.

redpoint73 said:
That's good, in your case.
Just install TWRP, restore the previously indicated stock TWRP backup, install corresponding stock recovery, and update OTA.
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yeah i think i got it now. ill try it. thank you very much for your help..

redpoint73 said:
That's good, in your case.
Just install TWRP, restore the previously indicated stock TWRP backup, install corresponding stock recovery, and update OTA.
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I did it successfully i think. But after that now i cant adjust my screen brightness and developer options are not usable either both of them become grey i cannot use them

In addition i cant see my network details in about. It is also become grey

Tharinduroshan said:
I did it successfully i think. But after that now i cant adjust my screen brightness and developer options are not usable either both of them become grey i cannot use them
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Did the wipe the partitions indicated in the guide? If so, I can't see what can be causing the issue. Proper stock ROM for your firmware, with proper wipes, I haven't seen these issues.

redpoint73 said:
Did the wipe the partitions indicated in the guide? If so, I can't see what can be causing the issue. Proper stock ROM for your firmware, with proper wipes, I haven't seen these issues.
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i think my phone is a demo version. there is an app called demo and it is causing all the trouble and i cant uninstall it. i tried doing a factory reset with recovery. but not helped. any sugesstions?

Tharinduroshan said:
i think my phone is a demo version. there is an app called demo and it is causing all the trouble and i cant uninstall it. i tried doing a factory reset with recovery. but not helped. any sugesstions?
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The version we told you to restore is not for a demo version. I don't think you restored as you were advised, at least not properly.
Also, factory reset only wipes user data, it doesn't affect anything with the ROM; and you should not be mistaken in thinking it would.

redpoint73 said:
The version we told you to restore is not for a demo version. I don't think you restored as you were advised, at least not properly.
Also, factory reset only wipes user data, it doesn't affect anything with the ROM; and you should not be mistaken in thinking it would.
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No i did all the things that post said and i downloaded the version 4.16.401.13 its the version for my phone :crying:

Rooting 6.0 M8

Hey guys,
Newbie here, looking to root my M8 running on Android 6.0
I've been reading a bit and came across first unlocking bootloader, any of you guys know what to do afterwards on 6.0 since the guides I've read are on M8s running 4.4 and 5.0?
I want to flash RESURRECTION REMIX v5.8.2, any help pls?
Also, does anyone know if this ROM supports Substratum theme engine?
Thanks a lot in advance guys!

To be clear, there is a difference between just rooting (stock ROM), and process for flashing a custom ROM. Main reason for confusion, is that you do not need to root in order to flash a custom ROM (contrary to some other devices). You simply need an unlocked bootloader, and custom recovery TWRP.
Before you unlock the bootloader, backup any of your data (off-phone to computer, SD, etc.) you want to keep; as the phone will be wiped when you unlock the bootloader.
After unlocking the bootloader, just flash TWRP using fastboot. You should use current TWRP version, which is 3.1.0-0 which you can get here: https://dl.twrp.me/m8/
After that, just put the desired ROM on the phone, boot into TWRP, backup your current (stock) ROM (in case you want or need to revert) then do default wipe in TWRP (data, Dalvik, cache) and install the ROM.
I don't know if RR supports substratum. Just check or search the RR ROM thread.
Also, questions should be posted to the Q&A section, not General. So I'll ask the mods to move this thread.

BadPug said:
I want to flash RESURRECTION REMIX v5.8.2, any help pls?
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that is covered in the post above mine
BadPug said:
Also, does anyone know if this ROM supports Substratum theme engine?
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yes it does

Hi,
I'm trying to install custom rom (the same one) on my device as well. Do I need a different kernel or S-off in order to flash the ROM? i would like to modify my phone as little as possible in order to avoid any possibility of a hard brick. tnx

petarcrncec said:
Hi,
I'm trying to install custom rom (the same one) on my device as well. Do I need a different kernel or S-off in order to flash the ROM? i would like to modify my phone as little as possible in order to avoid any possibility of a hard brick. tnx
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if you want to flash custom rom you only need unlocked bootloader + twrp installed
no need for another kernel or s-off
Sent from my HTC M8 using XDA Labs

ahmed.ismael said:
if you want to flash custom rom you only need unlocked bootloader + twrp installed
no need for another kernel or s-off
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Tnx for the response, I've assumed that would be the case so I did it anyway yesterday and I'm glad to report it is working

petarcrncec said:
Do I need a different kernel or S-off in order to flash the ROM?
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To be clear, the kernel flashes with the ROM on this device, and that is true with s-on.
There are older HTC devices, where you had to flash the kernel separately by fastboot, or have s-off (in which case, kernel would flash with the ROM). But none of this ever applied to the M8.

redpoint73 said:
To be clear, the kernel flashes with the ROM on this device, and that is true with s-on.
There are older HTC devices, where you had to flash the kernel separately by fastboot, or have s-off (in which case, kernel would flash with the ROM). But none of this ever applied to the M8.
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Thanks for the clarification, that's probably why i got confused (watched some older video on rooting, kernel, c roms and so on). So which parts of software (or hardware) would you want to manipulate with or change that would require s-off?

petarcrncec said:
Thanks for the clarification, that's probably why i got confused (watched some older video on rooting, kernel, c roms and so on).
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Always be sure to research the root/mod methods for your specific device (not just another HTC phone, etc.). Every phone has its own peculiarities and nuances.
petarcrncec said:
So which parts of software (or hardware) would you want to manipulate with or change that would require s-off?
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There is a number of modifications that require s-off, such as changing CID/MID, flashing modified hboots, manually flashing radios, flashing older version RUU ("downgrading") and a number of other things.
But for root, flashing ROMs, and most other common mods, just having an unlocked bootloader, custom recovery TWRP and s-on is enough.

Hi,
My question is the same, how to root HTC ONE M8,
However, I installed a Custom WOLLA.SENSE7.MM.V3 using this link:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/development/progress-fuu-m8-t2813792/
What is the best/safest method to root now.
Thank you

K4R33M said:
Hi,
My question is the same, how to root HTC ONE M8,
However, I installed a Custom WOLLA.SENSE7.MM.V3 using this link:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/development/progress-fuu-m8-t2813792/
What is the best/safest method to root now.
Thank you
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The ROM that you installed is pre-rooted, no need to root again.

ckpv5 said:
The ROM that you installed is pre-rooted, no need to root again.
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Thank you, although when I'm trying to install Apps that require roots like (Xframeword, Privacy..) It keeps telling that I need Root.
Edit: Precisely when trying to install Xposed Installer: (Failed to get root access)

Root access to install Xposed Installler
This is what I get when trying to install Xposed Installer (Attached Screenshots).
How could I proceed.
Thank you

K4R33M said:
This is what I get when trying to install Xposed Installer (Attached Screenshots).
How could I proceed.
Thank you
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Flash the xposed framework in recovery
Download it from the app itself as seen in your screenshot ( version 87 ) and flash in twrp
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ahmed.ismael said:
Flash the xposed framework in recovery
Download it from the app itself as seen in your screenshot ( version 87 ) and flash in twrp
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Hi,
I will install it via Recovery as shown in the attached screenshot.
Next, what shall I do? how to flash in TWRP, and what is the aim from flashing.
Thank you

K4R33M said:
Hi,
I will install it via Recovery as shown in the attached screenshot.
Next, what shall I do? how to flash in TWRP, and what is the aim from flashing.
Thank you
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Why you need to install xposed while you don't know about it ?
Flash in recovery by boot to recovery and tap install then navigate to the .zip location in storage and sweep to confirm that's how to flash a .zip from twrp
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ahmed.ismael said:
Flash the xposed framework in recovery
Download it from the app itself as seen in your screenshot ( version 87 ) and flash in twrp
Sent from my HTC M8 using XDA Labs
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ahmed.ismael said:
Why you need to install xposed while you don't know about it ?
Flash in recovery by boot to recovery and tap install then navigate to the .zip location in storage and sweep to confirm that's how to flash a .zip from twrp
Sent from my HTC M8 using XDA Labs
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Well, I think I know a little about it, else, how I managed to install the indicated Rom.
Although, what I was asking about, since the Isntalled Rom is already pre-rooted, why do I need a full flash using TWRP again.
Thanks

K4R33M said:
Well, I think I know a little about it, else, how I managed to install the indicated Rom.
Although, what I was asking about, since the Isntalled Rom is already pre-rooted, why do I need a full flash using TWRP again.
Thanks
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Root and xposed is tow different things you need root for something and xposed for a different thing
for example you don't need root to have a working xposed framework ( some modules require root though )
So it's up to you and what you will use
We can tell you what you have to do if you tell us what you up to
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K4R33M said:
Well, I think I know a little about it, else, how I managed to install the indicated Rom.
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What I think he meant was: if you want to use Xposed, read and understand about it first. You should have read the basic instructions on how to install it.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3034811
K4R33M said:
Although, what I was asking about, since the Isntalled Rom is already pre-rooted, why do I need a full flash using TWRP again.
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In order for xposed to work, you need to flash the xposed framework using TWRP, period. It's not complicated, and it's stated in the instructions clearly.

redpoint73 said:
In order for xposed to work, you need to flash the xposed framework using TWRP, period. It's not complicated, and it's stated in the instructions clearly.
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I am a bit confused here, the situation is like this: I need Xposed installed in order to use some modules mainly (Xprivacy..).
I have tried to install TWRP using Adb (Attached) which I assume it wasn't successful so far.
how to proceed now.
Thanks