Project fi - Nexus 5X Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Curious question.
I like owning Nexus devices, even if I don't need them. I see Google has an offer with project fi right now "A new way to say hello to project fi".
Pretty much get a Nexus 5x for $199 when activating a project fi account.
Could I get this, toss the project fi sim card to the side, and use this 5x on Verizon networks?

Yes you could do exactly that... the only caveat is you have to first activate project fi on nexus 5x first to get the $150 off. If you just throw the sim card without activating you won't get the discount.
So what did is buy the deal. activated (cost me $20, for 1 month fi service) , took the fi sim card and used my atnt .. all good for $199+ 20(FI service 1st month) + tax = much better deal

You could always just give google fi a try for a month and see how it works for you. Fi switches between Sprint and Tmobile networks plus has wifi calling. I am not exactly sure you would be able to activate the phone on verzion because at one time they were weird about the phones they allowed on their network.

I did exactly that. But I also have an activated nano sim ready from my other Verizon phone so didn't have to activate anything. Just popped my sim in after playing around with fi for a couple days
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ended up just transferring to project fi completely with my nexus 5x. long story short, this phone suck. LG's ****ty cpu throttling. every custom rom sucks with project fi.
i find myself using my nexus 6 more than the 5x now, mostly because of the shi ty project fi support on custom roms

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Coming from a Nexus 5 on Sprint....straightforward?

I searched this answer and did not find a clear one....Has anyone taken their SIM card from their Nexus 5 and used it in a Nexus 5X on Sprint?
If so how did it go?
Won't work.
5x uses nano sim 5 uses micro sim.
Get a new sim from verizon (nano)
I found this out the hard way.
Found this out myself when the 5x arrived. The local phone shop cut my sim to size for £1.
As others have said the SIM cards are different( Nexus 5 uses a MicroSIM. Nexus 5X uses a NanoSIM). Also, despite having a SIM card, Sprint is still a CDMA network and with a CDMA network the phone's ESN has to be added to Sprint's system. You could get a Nexus 5 with the ESN already in Sprint's system because Sprint sold the Nexus 5 directly. However, Sprint does't currently sell the Nexus 5X directly so in addition to getting a NanoSIM(or just cutting your MicroSIM) you'd also have to get Sprint to add the ESN of your Nexus 5X to their system and I've heard that can be a huge pain in the ass. It certainly is on Verizon.
Hey you might want to check this out it should help you http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/1...when-activating-an-unlocked-device-on-sprint/
Tried to activate my 5X on launch day at a Sprint store. They didn't have the correct nano SIM on-hand so they shipped one to my house for free. Online activation wouldn't work so I did a chat with support and they had me up and running in about 10 min
Same here. Had Sprint sent out a micro SIM but only after they sent out a nano SIM by mistake, even after I confirmed that is was for a 5x.
Online activation didn't work. A call to Sprint had things running pretty quickly.
Side note: for some reason the *28 code didn't work to let me get Google Voice to work. Looked online, and saw this site that gave a fix. After wasting a lot of time with the first rep, I got transferred to someone else who knew what she was doing and got Google Voice running. *28 still doesn't seem to work on my end, but she manually got the no answer/declined call/busy calls forwarded to Google Voice.

Project Fi Question

Second edit: I thought I had found the answer but it wasn't quite what I was looking for. I got the 5x with the Project Fi deal. I'm currently on Verizon and will probably stick with them but I have to give Project Fi a shot anyway. Is it possible to activate the Fi sim with my Verizon number without discontinuing my Verizon account?
brholt6 said:
Second edit: I thought I had found the answer but it wasn't quite what I was looking for. I got the 5x with the Project Fi deal. I'm currently on Verizon and will probably stick with them but I have to give Project Fi a shot anyway. Is it possible to activate the Fi sim with my Verizon number without discontinuing my Verizon account?
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If that is the only number with Verizon on that account then no. I moved to fi last month taking my VZ number with me. Had 2 numbers on VZ account, the moment I activated fi SIM card, my VZ number disappeared from my VZ account. For few days, it was showing suspended and then it was gone
Lepa79 said:
If that is the only number with Verizon on that account then no. I moved to fi last month taking my VZ number with me. Had 2 numbers on VZ account, the moment I activated fi SIM card, my VZ number disappeared from my VZ account. For few days, it was showing suspended and then it was gone
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Well dang. I figured that's probably how it'd work, though. It'll make it a little tough to really give Fi a try if I have to use a new number just to give it a whirl. Ah well.
brholt6 said:
Well dang. I figured that's probably how it'd work, though. It'll make it a little tough to really give Fi a try if I have to use a new number just to give it a whirl. Ah well.
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You could bring your number back to VZ if you decide not to stay with fi. Call VZ and check. Also, ask fi support. But I believe you can take ur number with if you decided to leave fi.

Differences between Project FI and Unlocked

It's been a while since I purchased an android phone.
If I want to continue using Project Fi initially but also be able to switch between carriers later, am I better off purchasing the Unlocked or the Project Fi phone? It's not clear if the project Fi phone is locked to the google network.
TiltedAz said:
It's been a while since I purchased an android phone.
If I want to continue using Project Fi initially but also be able to switch between carriers later, am I better off purchasing the Unlocked or the Project Fi phone? It's not clear if the project Fi phone is locked to the google network.
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fi is the unlocked version of the phone but you usually get better incentives for buying through fi because you agree to use the service for soo long.. but no worry. as long as you use fi as one of the carriers you can dual sim also.
TiltedAz said:
It's been a while since I purchased an android phone.
If I want to continue using Project Fi initially but also be able to switch between carriers later, am I better off purchasing the Unlocked or the Project Fi phone? It's not clear if the project Fi phone is locked to the google network.
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Google doesn't ha e thier own network... the project file bounces between TMobile Sprint and Verizon networks I believe.... So the phone has to be unlock to do that. The unlocked and fi version I believe are the same phone. But we will may e someone else can come firm whether the fi version will have the OEM unlocking ability.
Yes, Project Fi is a mobile virtual network. I've been on it since the beginning invitation period. I'm still rolling a Nexus 6 so it's been a while since I shopped a google phone and was surprised to see 3 different phone options: Unlocked (works on all major carriers), VZ (includes sim), and Project Fi.
I requested a Project Fi phone support callback but no response after almost 2 hours now. I suspect they are swamped with new product sales and are putting low priority on questions.
TiltedAz said:
It's been a while since I purchased an android phone.
If I want to continue using Project Fi initially but also be able to switch between carriers later, am I better off purchasing the Unlocked or the Project Fi phone? It's not clear if the project Fi phone is locked to the google network.
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It's the same unlocked phone, and same price for fi or unlocked purchase.
I don't see any difference in price between buying unlocked or Fi phones. They are both unlocked. Just setup Fi on your eSIM, and then you can add a second carrier without any changes.
Edit: I looked again, there is a discount if you buy two Pixel3's and sign up a new user:
Get $799 Fi credit when you buy two and add a new Fi user to your plan. Terms apply
I've had Fi for Wife, kid, and me for over a year. Last months bill was $59.43 for three devices.
I have fi on my eSIM, and have a Verizon SIM that I use as my primary network. 99% of the time I'm on Verizon, but when I need it I use FiSwitch app "COOL APP! by an XDA developer" to swap sims. It's a one button press to switch from SIM to eSIM, takes about 10 seconds to switch. Normally my unused gig of data is used by the Kid and Wife.
I bought a Pixel3 "not Pink" for wifey, and a Pixel3 128 XL black for me. The Kid will get Wife's old Pixel, and Grandpa will get my old Pixel2 XL. I will put Pops on my Fi account and save him a boat load of money from the evil AT&T elder abusing up-sellers.

G Power phones from Google Fi not unlocked, help?

It has become apparent to a few of us who purchased G Power phones from Google Fi that their claim it is unlocked is not true. If you have them port your number over to a MVNO, such as I did, to Boom Mobile, (Verizon ), that sim card will only get you 2G, 1xRTT, with no data. There is a thread on Reddit , and Motorola forum. And, the claims are it would be difficult to rid the phone of the Fi rom and replace it with one that will truly unlock the phone.
This forum will not let me post those links now. However, users of this phone from Fi have tried everything but rooting, which of course, voids the warranty. And, the consensus is, it is installed firmware. Most bought these from Fi at a attractive price of $149, for a claimed, "unlocked", phone. $100 less then from Best Buy etc.
And, probable not that many complaints yet, as most stick with Fi.
Multiple emails to Google Fi, get you nowhere, as they will not admit to the problem.
As I, and others no little about rooting., we are looking for a simple answer to get Google Fi's rom off the phone, without a lot of hassle.
Any help would be appreciated. We all have tried; Factory, Network Reset etc. nothing so far works. If we had purchased the phone from another retail store unlocked this would not happen.
As you may know, Google Fi uses T-Mobile/Sprint/ Us Cellular networks on this phone, and their service is generally good. However, where I live and travel, Verizon just works more of the time. I put Boom Mobile's, (Verizon), sim card into my older, unlocked Moto G6, bought from Best Buy, which was on Google Fi for some time, and it works, 4G,without doing anything.
Thank you for any help.
I might have mis-spoke about a Moto G Power unlocked from non-network retail, it may have same problem, no conformation on this yet.
So I did the same as you. I purchase from Google FI. But I place my at&t sim on this phone and everything is working fine. Download speeds around 33 to 28mbps. Only thing I noticed is my calls are not Cristal clear. Other than that I had no issues so far
@PesSarmiento Thanks for that Info! It has been pretty consistently reported on various forums that the problem lies in trying to use the Google Fi sourced Moto G Power on the Verizon network. I have personally wondered what would happen if I inserted an AT&T SIM card, so that's good to know. It seems that Google promotes the G Power as an "unlocked" phone, only to find that is not so.
180pilot said:
It has become apparent to a few of us who purchased G Power phones from Google Fi that their claim it is unlocked is not true. If you have them port your number over to a MVNO, such as I did, to Boom Mobile, (Verizon ), that sim card will only get you 2G, 1xRTT, with no data. There is a thread on Reddit , and Motorola forum. And, the claims are it would be difficult to rid the phone of the Fi rom and replace it with one that will truly unlock the phone.
This forum will not let me post those links now. However, users of this phone from Fi have tried everything but rooting, which of course, voids the warranty. And, the consensus is, it is installed firmware. Most bought these from Fi at a attractive price of $149, for a claimed, "unlocked", phone. $100 less then from Best Buy etc.
And, probable not that many complaints yet, as most stick with Fi.
Multiple emails to Google Fi, get you nowhere, as they will not admit to the problem.
As I, and others no little about rooting., we are looking for a simple answer to get Google Fi's rom off the phone, without a lot of hassle.
Any help would be appreciated. We all have tried; Factory, Network Reset etc. nothing so far works. If we had purchased the phone from another retail store unlocked this would not happen.
As you may know, Google Fi uses T-Mobile/Sprint/ Us Cellular networks on this phone, and their service is generally good. However, where I live and travel, Verizon just works more of the time. I put Boom Mobile's, (Verizon), sim card into my older, unlocked Moto G6, bought from Best Buy, which was on Google Fi for some time, and it works, 4G,without doing anything.
Thank you for any help.
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I think I am going to guess that something else is going on here. If it wasn't unlocked, I don't think you would get any service at all, not just 2G, 1xRTT.
Has anyone tried a factory reset with the different provider sim in the device?
I am using mine on FI and don't currently have another sim to test.
boog said:
I think I am going to guess that something else is going on here. If it wasn't unlocked, I don't think you would get any service at all, not just 2G, 1xRTT.
Has anyone tried a factory reset with the different provider sim in the device?
I am using mine on FI and don't currently have another sim to test.
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Yes, many of us have done numerous factory resets. And yes, we've tried other sim cards, on a VZW MVNO in my case. Nothing works. I read of one person inserting an AT&T sim card and that did work for him.
I did get a response from Motorola Support today on the Lenovo Forum. It reads...
Senior MotoAgent
Re:LTE Not Working When moving from Google Fi to Red Pocket MVNO (using CDMA / VZW)
2020-08-14, 11:25 AM
Hi Yar33,
We checked that Google Fi Models having a problem with calls and data when moving to other carriers not just Verizon. These models will get fixed in future updates which is an update coming from us, not by Google. For now, we do not have any time frame for the update.
Best regards,
Zeke
Motorola Support
Yar33 said:
Yes, many of us have done numerous factory resets. And yes, we've tried other sim cards, on a VZW MVNO in my case. Nothing works. I read of one person inserting an AT&T sim card and that did work for him.
I did get a response from Motorola Support today on the Lenovo Forum. It reads...
Senior MotoAgent
Re:LTE Not Working When moving from Google Fi to Red Pocket MVNO (using CDMA / VZW)
2020-08-14, 11:25 AM
Hi Yar33,
We checked that Google Fi Models having a problem with calls and data when moving to other carriers not just Verizon. These models will get fixed in future updates which is an update coming from us, not by Google. For now, we do not have any time frame for the update.
Best regards,
Zeke
Motorola Support
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That actually sounds a bit more reasonable, thanks for sharing that.
The bit of testing on Fi for me appears to show that the phone switches to H or 3g for calls when connected to T-Mobile. Sprint acts like sprint and switches to 1x for phone calls.
But it has a hard time staying connected to T-mobile compared to Pixel devices I used in the past.
I hope they fix it soon.
So I recently got my visible sim card, and like you mentioned I have no service on Moto G Power. The sim card is working fine in a Galaxy note 9. Let me know if you got some fix to this problem. I will really appreciate if you can send me a PM with those links from the other forums
PesSarmiento said:
So I recently got my visible sim card, and like you mentioned I have no service on Moto G Power. The sim card is working fine in a Galaxy note 9. Let me know if you got some fix to this problem. I will really appreciate if you can send me a PM with those links from the other forums
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isn't visible on Verizon? So you can't just switch a sim from one device to another like GSM.
Edit: This solution worked from a user u/yagyaxt1068 on Reddit.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MotoG/comments/i7djqx/guide_on_how_to_get_lte_working_on_verizon_again/
You'll have to unlock the bootloader and flash the Verizon ROM. The Retail/RETUS ROM doesn't solve the issue.
Meanwhile 6+ months later... They must have fixed the problem.
I just bought a 'used' Moto G Power (XT2041-4) off of eBay a few weeks ago. Two months old.
Private Seller. He made sure that the device was wiped properly so I didn't have to deal with FRP issues.
Android 10, Google Fi software channel.
I installed my SIM from Mint Mobile and was off to the races. I haven't had any connection issues (that I know of.)
I'm still learning my way around the device...
Seems last update did something, my G power now works with Boost Mobile sim? software channel still, Google Fi. Bought another G power from Best Buy, channel is, US retail. Both work fine Verizon LTE. Now always carry two identical phones, for safety backup. Waiting for Android 11 update to see if the channel changes on Fi phone?
Try disabling Google Fi app before trying on any other sim card. I'm using G power(bought from google) with ultra-mobile. Everything is working as expected.
Most likely because Ultra Mobile is using T- Mobile. Same as Fi.
Does the Software Channel in "about phone" page still show Google Fi or US retail?
I disabled the Fi app and still could not use Verizon MVNO before last update.
Did any of you guys set up the ****ing APN at all or what? If you have nothing except for basic "2G" its because you need the APN and the moment it's in there it will take a tenth of a second for it to pop up and that's it
Tried that' first phone from Google has "Google FI" as APN. and prefs are grayed out can't change it. Second Moto G from Best Buy has "VZWINTERNET". Found by; Settings, Network & internet, Mobile network, Advanced, Access Point Names. Seems Phone from Google the APN will stay the same if inserting a verizon sim card? Unlocked changes.

Question Pixel 6 Pro vs OnePlus 10 Pro on Google Fi

I use Google Fi for my family cell service. Am I crazy to even consider the OnePlus 10 Pro over the Pixel 6 Pro if I'm using Google Fi? I've never had a "Designed for Google Fi" device, so I'm not sure of the real world advantages of "Designed for" vs "Compatible with"
Any other thoughts beyond the Google Fi question? Thanks!
I cant speak for the OP10Pro but had the OP9Pro on google and I had so many problems I had to get rid if it. I had to reboot it about once a day or I would not get any calls and when I dialed out it just went dead, never rang.. I delt with google and OP on support but gave up. Took the sim out, slid it into the 6Pro and no problems.... this is my first designed for Fi phone, previous 4 have not and the OP9Pro was the first to ever give me problems. Designed really only gives you network switching, it will be TMobile all the time, so if they have good signal, no worries.

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