Differences between Project FI and Unlocked - Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers

It's been a while since I purchased an android phone.
If I want to continue using Project Fi initially but also be able to switch between carriers later, am I better off purchasing the Unlocked or the Project Fi phone? It's not clear if the project Fi phone is locked to the google network.

TiltedAz said:
It's been a while since I purchased an android phone.
If I want to continue using Project Fi initially but also be able to switch between carriers later, am I better off purchasing the Unlocked or the Project Fi phone? It's not clear if the project Fi phone is locked to the google network.
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fi is the unlocked version of the phone but you usually get better incentives for buying through fi because you agree to use the service for soo long.. but no worry. as long as you use fi as one of the carriers you can dual sim also.

TiltedAz said:
It's been a while since I purchased an android phone.
If I want to continue using Project Fi initially but also be able to switch between carriers later, am I better off purchasing the Unlocked or the Project Fi phone? It's not clear if the project Fi phone is locked to the google network.
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Google doesn't ha e thier own network... the project file bounces between TMobile Sprint and Verizon networks I believe.... So the phone has to be unlock to do that. The unlocked and fi version I believe are the same phone. But we will may e someone else can come firm whether the fi version will have the OEM unlocking ability.

Yes, Project Fi is a mobile virtual network. I've been on it since the beginning invitation period. I'm still rolling a Nexus 6 so it's been a while since I shopped a google phone and was surprised to see 3 different phone options: Unlocked (works on all major carriers), VZ (includes sim), and Project Fi.
I requested a Project Fi phone support callback but no response after almost 2 hours now. I suspect they are swamped with new product sales and are putting low priority on questions.

TiltedAz said:
It's been a while since I purchased an android phone.
If I want to continue using Project Fi initially but also be able to switch between carriers later, am I better off purchasing the Unlocked or the Project Fi phone? It's not clear if the project Fi phone is locked to the google network.
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It's the same unlocked phone, and same price for fi or unlocked purchase.
I don't see any difference in price between buying unlocked or Fi phones. They are both unlocked. Just setup Fi on your eSIM, and then you can add a second carrier without any changes.
Edit: I looked again, there is a discount if you buy two Pixel3's and sign up a new user:
Get $799 Fi credit when you buy two and add a new Fi user to your plan. Terms apply
I've had Fi for Wife, kid, and me for over a year. Last months bill was $59.43 for three devices.
I have fi on my eSIM, and have a Verizon SIM that I use as my primary network. 99% of the time I'm on Verizon, but when I need it I use FiSwitch app "COOL APP! by an XDA developer" to swap sims. It's a one button press to switch from SIM to eSIM, takes about 10 seconds to switch. Normally my unused gig of data is used by the Kid and Wife.
I bought a Pixel3 "not Pink" for wifey, and a Pixel3 128 XL black for me. The Kid will get Wife's old Pixel, and Grandpa will get my old Pixel2 XL. I will put Pops on my Fi account and save him a boat load of money from the evil AT&T elder abusing up-sellers.

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Second edit: I thought I had found the answer but it wasn't quite what I was looking for. I got the 5x with the Project Fi deal. I'm currently on Verizon and will probably stick with them but I have to give Project Fi a shot anyway. Is it possible to activate the Fi sim with my Verizon number without discontinuing my Verizon account?
brholt6 said:
Second edit: I thought I had found the answer but it wasn't quite what I was looking for. I got the 5x with the Project Fi deal. I'm currently on Verizon and will probably stick with them but I have to give Project Fi a shot anyway. Is it possible to activate the Fi sim with my Verizon number without discontinuing my Verizon account?
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If that is the only number with Verizon on that account then no. I moved to fi last month taking my VZ number with me. Had 2 numbers on VZ account, the moment I activated fi SIM card, my VZ number disappeared from my VZ account. For few days, it was showing suspended and then it was gone
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If that is the only number with Verizon on that account then no. I moved to fi last month taking my VZ number with me. Had 2 numbers on VZ account, the moment I activated fi SIM card, my VZ number disappeared from my VZ account. For few days, it was showing suspended and then it was gone
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Well dang. I figured that's probably how it'd work, though. It'll make it a little tough to really give Fi a try if I have to use a new number just to give it a whirl. Ah well.
brholt6 said:
Well dang. I figured that's probably how it'd work, though. It'll make it a little tough to really give Fi a try if I have to use a new number just to give it a whirl. Ah well.
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You could bring your number back to VZ if you decide not to stay with fi. Call VZ and check. Also, ask fi support. But I believe you can take ur number with if you decided to leave fi.

Project fi

Curious question.
I like owning Nexus devices, even if I don't need them. I see Google has an offer with project fi right now "A new way to say hello to project fi".
Pretty much get a Nexus 5x for $199 when activating a project fi account.
Could I get this, toss the project fi sim card to the side, and use this 5x on Verizon networks?
Yes you could do exactly that... the only caveat is you have to first activate project fi on nexus 5x first to get the $150 off. If you just throw the sim card without activating you won't get the discount.
So what did is buy the deal. activated (cost me $20, for 1 month fi service) , took the fi sim card and used my atnt .. all good for $199+ 20(FI service 1st month) + tax = much better deal
You could always just give google fi a try for a month and see how it works for you. Fi switches between Sprint and Tmobile networks plus has wifi calling. I am not exactly sure you would be able to activate the phone on verzion because at one time they were weird about the phones they allowed on their network.
I did exactly that. But I also have an activated nano sim ready from my other Verizon phone so didn't have to activate anything. Just popped my sim in after playing around with fi for a couple days
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ended up just transferring to project fi completely with my nexus 5x. long story short, this phone suck. LG's ****ty cpu throttling. every custom rom sucks with project fi.
i find myself using my nexus 6 more than the 5x now, mostly because of the shi ty project fi support on custom roms

Pixel on Sprint

Will it work on Sprint or should I wait to order til Sprint announces they will or will not carry?
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mrwicked said:
Will it work on Sprint or should I wait to order til Sprint announces they will or will not carry?
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Google said it works on all major US carriers....plus it's exclusively at Verizon so it should work on sprint.
mrwicked said:
Will it work on Sprint or should I wait to order til Sprint announces they will or will not carry?
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Only unlocked version not verizon bought version
bsg411 said:
Google said it works on all major US carriers....plus it's exclusively at Verizon so it should work on sprint.
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Good deal!
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Good deal!
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Has anyone tried to get a Sprint Sim card? Would like to use the Pixel when it get here.
Hi. I am a Product Ambassador for Sprint and can confirm that Sprint is an activation partner for Pixel. Let me know if you have any questions.
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Hi. I am a Product Ambassador for Sprint and can confirm that Sprint is an activation partner for Pixel. Let me know if you have any questions.
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A bunch! Current Sprint user - phone payment for current phone will be up in Dec. So looking at options.
1) Will I have to buy the unlocked phone at Google, or does Sprint plan to carry it soon?
2) Project Fi - do I sign up with that through Sprint or through Google?
3) Does that create extra fees? This is what Fi states: $20 unlimited talk/text plan plus $10 per GB of data—so 3GB of data and your total bill would be $50 a month.
3a) So I guess, it might be easier for you to explain the exact process of what will be needed
4) Do I get to keep my current #?
Thanks,
- Peter
schwingep said:
A bunch! Current Sprint user - phone payment for current phone will be up in Dec. So looking at options.
1) Will I have to buy the unlocked phone at Google, or does Sprint plan to carry it soon?
2) Project Fi - do I sign up with that through Sprint or through Google?
3) Does that create extra fees? This is what Fi states: $20 unlimited talk/text plan plus $10 per GB of data—so 3GB of data and your total bill would be $50 a month.
3a) So I guess, it might be easier for you to explain the exact process of what will be needed
4) Do I get to keep my current #?
Thanks,
- Peter
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Hey Peter -
Happy to help.
1) Sprint will not carry Pixel due to Google's choice to go with Verizon as the exclusive carrier storefront for Pixel, however we are an activation partner for the device. So, you would buy the unlocked version of the device from Google and activate it with us if you choose.
You can get a SIM kit from us online here:
https://www.sprint.com/landings/bring-your-own-phone/
2) Project Fi is a Google MVNO service offer, we do not "sell it" though we are a network partner in Fi providing service on the backend along with T-Mobile. More info on the Fi site here:
https://fi.google.com/about/
3) There are no extra fees with Fi. You either get service from Sprint using a Sprint SIM or you get service from Fi using a Fi SIM. If you choose to activate with Sprint you would just use your existing Sprint number. If you choose to activate the service with Fi, you would get a new Fi number of your own unless you choose to port your line to Fi in which case you would no longer have that number with us on Sprint.
3a) Hopefully I have!
4) If you wanted to activate your Pixel with Fi, you could port your number over to that service. You would no longer be a subscriber when you port out.
Hope this has been helpful. Please let me know if you have any other questions!
Matt
mattvalenz said:
Hi. I am a Product Ambassador for Sprint and can confirm that Sprint is an activation partner for Pixel. Let me know if you have any questions.
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Hi Matt, Streamlining the process would sure be nice. Forty five minutes on the phone tonight, talked to 3 very nice reps. All to order a sim card. My wife wants the same phone when her lease is up. Why can't this be made less time consuming?
edit; dang wish had seen your previous reply!
Will the sim card from my Nexus 6p work with the Pixel XL?
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mattvalenz said:
Hi. I am a Product Ambassador for Sprint and can confirm that Sprint is an activation partner for Pixel. Let me know if you have any questions.
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I have a Nexus 6P will that sim work on the PIxel Phone or will i have to get a new sim from Sprint
davidh59 said:
Hi Matt, Streamlining the process would sure be nice. Forty five minutes on the phone tonight, talked to 3 very nice reps. All to order a sim card. My wife wants the same phone when her lease is up. Why can't this be made less time consuming?
edit; dang wish had seen your previous reply!
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Well I wish I had a better answer. In this case, Google kept details around Pixel pretty close to the vest until the announcements yesterday which mean we could not communicate internally until late yesterday and today. The good news is that we have been working hard to make sure our Retail reps have internal information on Pixel to help with ordering SIMs as in your case. If you continue to still have a SIM issue, please let me know. The SIM card you will need for Pixel is:
UICC SKU / UPC Code
◦CZ2144LWC / 019962040146
•Retail SIM Kit Capable ◦760492034500
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hshshawn said:
Will the sim card from my Nexus 6p work with the Pixel XL?
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Hi hshshawn -
Yes it will as it is the exact same SIM SKU as Nexus 6: CZ2144LWC / 019962040146.
However we still require the SIM to be paired to the device MEID in our billing system so you can't just take the SIM out of your Nexus 6p, insert it into the Pixel and expect it to just activate. You still have to swap the device on sprint.com or through Care or Retail. Let me know if you have any more questions!
Matt
mrwicked said:
Will it work on Sprint or should I wait to order til Sprint announces they will or will not carry?
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Only unlocked play store version will work on sprint verizon version only verizon. end of discussion problem solved
mattvalenz said:
Hey Peter -
Happy to help.
1) Sprint will not carry Pixel due to Google's choice to go with Verizon as the exclusive carrier storefront for Pixel, however we are an activation partner for the device. So, you would buy the unlocked version of the device from Google and activate it with us if you choose.
You can get a SIM kit from us online here:
2) Project Fi is a Google MVNO service offer, we do not "sell it" though we are a network partner in Fi providing service on the backend along with T-Mobile. More info on the Fi site here:
3) There are no extra fees with Fi. You either get service from Sprint using a Sprint SIM or you get service from Fi using a Fi SIM. If you choose to activate with Sprint you would just use your existing Sprint number. If you choose to activate the service with Fi, you would get a new Fi number of your own unless you choose to port your line to Fi in which case you would no longer have that number with us on Sprint.
3a) Hopefully I have!
4) If you wanted to activate your Pixel with Fi, you could port your number over to that service. You would no longer be a subscriber when you port out.
Hope this has been helpful. Please let me know if you have any other questions!
Matt
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Thanks, Matt - very helpful information!
mattvalenz said:
Well I wish I had a better answer. In this case, Google kept details around Pixel pretty close to the vest until the announcements yesterday which mean we could not communicate internally until late yesterday and today. The good news is that we have been working hard to make sure our Retail reps have internal information on Pixel to help with ordering SIMs as in your case. If you continue to still have a SIM issue, please let me know. The SIM card you will need for Pixel is:
UICC SKU / UPC Code
◦CZ2144LWC / 019962040146
â?¢Retail SIM Kit Capable ◦760492034500
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Hi hshshawn -
Yes it will as it is the exact same SIM SKU as Nexus 6: CZ2144LWC / 019962040146.
However we still require the SIM to be paired to the device MEID in our billing system so you can't just take the SIM out of your Nexus 6p, insert it into the Pixel and expect it to just activate. You still have to swap the device on sprint.com or through Care or Retail. Let me know if you have any more questions!
Matt
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How about the Nexus 6? I have the Nexus 6 I got from sprint. Is this the same SKU?
A huge drawback in staying with sprint when I get the pixel is the lack of wifi calling support. I can go to T-Mobile and get unlimited, and have them support Androids native wifi calling.
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mattvalenz said:
Hi. I am a Product Ambassador for Sprint and can confirm that Sprint is an activation partner for Pixel. Let me know if you have any questions.
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Can I use the project Fi sim card the Pixel comes with, when I activate it on sprint? If not, what is the correct model sim card for sprint on this phone? Can I just take the same one from the HTC 10?
blu8503 said:
How about the Nexus 6? I have the Nexus 6 I got from sprint. Is this the same SKU?
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Yes it will as it is the exact same SIM SKU as Nexus 6: CZ2144LWC / 019962040146.
However we still require the SIM to be paired to the device MEID in our billing system so you can't just take the SIM out of your Nexus 6p, insert it into the Pixel and expect it to just activate. You still have to swap the device on sprint.com or through Care or Retail. Let me know if you have any more questions!
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DrKaotica said:
A huge drawback in staying with sprint when I get the pixel is the lack of wifi calling support. I can go to T-Mobile and get unlimited, and have them support Androids native wifi calling.
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Sprint supports Android native Wi-Fi calling. Are you 100% sure that T-Mo supports this on Pixel? It's a Google decision vs a Sprint decision on what they do and do not support in terms of carrier services.
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alexjzim said:
Can I use the project Fi sim card the Pixel comes with, when I activate it on sprint? If not, what is the correct model sim card for sprint on this phone? Can I just take the same one from the HTC 10?
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The Project Fi SIM works on the Project Fi MVNO network. You will need a Sprint SIM card for Pixel to work on the Sprint network.
Correct SIM:
UICC SKU / UPC Code
◦CZ2144LWC / 019962040146
â?¢Retail SIM Kit Capable ◦760492034500
In terms of HTC 10, yes it will work as it is the exact same SIM SKU. However we still require the SIM to be paired to the device MEID in our billing system so you can't just take the SIM out of your HTC 10, insert it into the Pixel and expect it to just activate. You still have to swap the device on sprint.com or through Care or Retail.
Let me know if you have any more questions!
DrKaotica said:
A huge drawback in staying with sprint when I get the pixel is the lack of wifi calling support. I can go to T-Mobile and get unlimited, and have them support Androids native wifi calling.
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I looked into this with our Product team and the Wi-Fi calling "support" that VZ and T-Mobile are claiming are most likely tied to voLTE than anything else. Ultimately Google does not support IMS on Pixel which would have enabled Android native Wi-Fi calling on our network.
mattvalenz said:
I looked into this with our Product team and the Wi-Fi calling "support" that VZ and T-Mobile are claiming are most likely tied to voLTE than anything else. Ultimately Google does not support IMS on Pixel which would have enabled Android native Wi-Fi calling on our network.
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Thanks, man. I appreciate you looking into this for me.

Activating an unlocked 2 xl on verizon; will sim be transferable to another phone?

Dumb question probably, but I have never used Verizon. And will I be able to change to an ATT sim whenever I want to?
Also will tying up the IMEI with Verizon effect the return of the ph within my 15 days?
lightfire said:
Dumb question probably, but I have never used Verizon. And will I be able to change to an ATT sim whenever I want to?
Also will tying up the IMEI with Verizon effect the return of the ph within my 15 days?
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You can activate it with a Verizon sim and be able to change networks without any problems. I haven't tried it with this phone but with my Nexus 6P I was able to swap sims from Verizon to other carriers and back again without issues. The Pixel 2 XL is unlocked also so I don't see why it would be any different. As long as you bought it from the Google store or through Project Fi you will be able to return it within your 15 days. They have a record of your IMEI number and it will not change.
murphyjasonc said:
You can activate it with a Verizon sim and be able to change networks without any problems. I haven't tried it with this phone but with my Nexus 6P I was able to swap sims from Verizon to other carriers and back again without issues. The Pixel 2 XL is unlocked also so I don't see why it would be any different. As long as you bought it from the Google store or through Project Fi you will be able to return it within your 15 days. They have a record of your IMEI number and it will not change.
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Thanks for the reply. Where I live is a hole for ATT and I thought I would try Verizon, although I prefer the less expensive GSM MVNO's.
Be warned that if you select the "Unlocked" version from the Google store you may not be able to use it on the Verizon network unless you go directly to Verizon. My MVNO (StraightTalk) says my IMEI is not authorized and I ended up having to switch to their ATT SIM.
gmt2001 said:
Be warned that if you select the "Unlocked" version from the Google store you may not be able to use it on the Verizon network unless you go directly to Verizon. My MVNO (StraightTalk) says my IMEI is not authorized and I ended up having to switch to their ATT SIM.
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I owned a unlocked pixel xl bought from the Google store. All I did was switch the into it last fall and it worked fine. Then I did the same exact thing with my pixel 2 xl with no issues when it arrived last week.
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Be warned that if you select the "Unlocked" version from the Google store you may not be able to use it on the Verizon network unless you go directly to Verizon. My MVNO (StraightTalk) says my IMEI is not authorized and I ended up having to switch to their ATT SIM.
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Please delete your post. It creates confusion because it's just plain wrong.
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clapper66 said:
I owned a unlocked pixel xl bought from the Google store. All I did was switch the into it last fall and it worked fine. Then I did the same exact thing with my pixel 2 xl with no issues when it arrived last week.
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Guess your MVNO was nicer and went through the trouble of authorizing it for you. Wish mine would of done that for me.

G Power phones from Google Fi not unlocked, help?

It has become apparent to a few of us who purchased G Power phones from Google Fi that their claim it is unlocked is not true. If you have them port your number over to a MVNO, such as I did, to Boom Mobile, (Verizon ), that sim card will only get you 2G, 1xRTT, with no data. There is a thread on Reddit , and Motorola forum. And, the claims are it would be difficult to rid the phone of the Fi rom and replace it with one that will truly unlock the phone.
This forum will not let me post those links now. However, users of this phone from Fi have tried everything but rooting, which of course, voids the warranty. And, the consensus is, it is installed firmware. Most bought these from Fi at a attractive price of $149, for a claimed, "unlocked", phone. $100 less then from Best Buy etc.
And, probable not that many complaints yet, as most stick with Fi.
Multiple emails to Google Fi, get you nowhere, as they will not admit to the problem.
As I, and others no little about rooting., we are looking for a simple answer to get Google Fi's rom off the phone, without a lot of hassle.
Any help would be appreciated. We all have tried; Factory, Network Reset etc. nothing so far works. If we had purchased the phone from another retail store unlocked this would not happen.
As you may know, Google Fi uses T-Mobile/Sprint/ Us Cellular networks on this phone, and their service is generally good. However, where I live and travel, Verizon just works more of the time. I put Boom Mobile's, (Verizon), sim card into my older, unlocked Moto G6, bought from Best Buy, which was on Google Fi for some time, and it works, 4G,without doing anything.
Thank you for any help.
I might have mis-spoke about a Moto G Power unlocked from non-network retail, it may have same problem, no conformation on this yet.
So I did the same as you. I purchase from Google FI. But I place my at&t sim on this phone and everything is working fine. Download speeds around 33 to 28mbps. Only thing I noticed is my calls are not Cristal clear. Other than that I had no issues so far
@PesSarmiento Thanks for that Info! It has been pretty consistently reported on various forums that the problem lies in trying to use the Google Fi sourced Moto G Power on the Verizon network. I have personally wondered what would happen if I inserted an AT&T SIM card, so that's good to know. It seems that Google promotes the G Power as an "unlocked" phone, only to find that is not so.
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It has become apparent to a few of us who purchased G Power phones from Google Fi that their claim it is unlocked is not true. If you have them port your number over to a MVNO, such as I did, to Boom Mobile, (Verizon ), that sim card will only get you 2G, 1xRTT, with no data. There is a thread on Reddit , and Motorola forum. And, the claims are it would be difficult to rid the phone of the Fi rom and replace it with one that will truly unlock the phone.
This forum will not let me post those links now. However, users of this phone from Fi have tried everything but rooting, which of course, voids the warranty. And, the consensus is, it is installed firmware. Most bought these from Fi at a attractive price of $149, for a claimed, "unlocked", phone. $100 less then from Best Buy etc.
And, probable not that many complaints yet, as most stick with Fi.
Multiple emails to Google Fi, get you nowhere, as they will not admit to the problem.
As I, and others no little about rooting., we are looking for a simple answer to get Google Fi's rom off the phone, without a lot of hassle.
Any help would be appreciated. We all have tried; Factory, Network Reset etc. nothing so far works. If we had purchased the phone from another retail store unlocked this would not happen.
As you may know, Google Fi uses T-Mobile/Sprint/ Us Cellular networks on this phone, and their service is generally good. However, where I live and travel, Verizon just works more of the time. I put Boom Mobile's, (Verizon), sim card into my older, unlocked Moto G6, bought from Best Buy, which was on Google Fi for some time, and it works, 4G,without doing anything.
Thank you for any help.
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I think I am going to guess that something else is going on here. If it wasn't unlocked, I don't think you would get any service at all, not just 2G, 1xRTT.
Has anyone tried a factory reset with the different provider sim in the device?
I am using mine on FI and don't currently have another sim to test.
boog said:
I think I am going to guess that something else is going on here. If it wasn't unlocked, I don't think you would get any service at all, not just 2G, 1xRTT.
Has anyone tried a factory reset with the different provider sim in the device?
I am using mine on FI and don't currently have another sim to test.
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Yes, many of us have done numerous factory resets. And yes, we've tried other sim cards, on a VZW MVNO in my case. Nothing works. I read of one person inserting an AT&T sim card and that did work for him.
I did get a response from Motorola Support today on the Lenovo Forum. It reads...
Senior MotoAgent
Re:LTE Not Working When moving from Google Fi to Red Pocket MVNO (using CDMA / VZW)
2020-08-14, 11:25 AM
Hi Yar33,
We checked that Google Fi Models having a problem with calls and data when moving to other carriers not just Verizon. These models will get fixed in future updates which is an update coming from us, not by Google. For now, we do not have any time frame for the update.
Best regards,
Zeke
Motorola Support
Yar33 said:
Yes, many of us have done numerous factory resets. And yes, we've tried other sim cards, on a VZW MVNO in my case. Nothing works. I read of one person inserting an AT&T sim card and that did work for him.
I did get a response from Motorola Support today on the Lenovo Forum. It reads...
Senior MotoAgent
Re:LTE Not Working When moving from Google Fi to Red Pocket MVNO (using CDMA / VZW)
2020-08-14, 11:25 AM
Hi Yar33,
We checked that Google Fi Models having a problem with calls and data when moving to other carriers not just Verizon. These models will get fixed in future updates which is an update coming from us, not by Google. For now, we do not have any time frame for the update.
Best regards,
Zeke
Motorola Support
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That actually sounds a bit more reasonable, thanks for sharing that.
The bit of testing on Fi for me appears to show that the phone switches to H or 3g for calls when connected to T-Mobile. Sprint acts like sprint and switches to 1x for phone calls.
But it has a hard time staying connected to T-mobile compared to Pixel devices I used in the past.
I hope they fix it soon.
So I recently got my visible sim card, and like you mentioned I have no service on Moto G Power. The sim card is working fine in a Galaxy note 9. Let me know if you got some fix to this problem. I will really appreciate if you can send me a PM with those links from the other forums
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So I recently got my visible sim card, and like you mentioned I have no service on Moto G Power. The sim card is working fine in a Galaxy note 9. Let me know if you got some fix to this problem. I will really appreciate if you can send me a PM with those links from the other forums
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isn't visible on Verizon? So you can't just switch a sim from one device to another like GSM.
Edit: This solution worked from a user u/yagyaxt1068 on Reddit.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MotoG/comments/i7djqx/guide_on_how_to_get_lte_working_on_verizon_again/
You'll have to unlock the bootloader and flash the Verizon ROM. The Retail/RETUS ROM doesn't solve the issue.
Meanwhile 6+ months later... They must have fixed the problem.
I just bought a 'used' Moto G Power (XT2041-4) off of eBay a few weeks ago. Two months old.
Private Seller. He made sure that the device was wiped properly so I didn't have to deal with FRP issues.
Android 10, Google Fi software channel.
I installed my SIM from Mint Mobile and was off to the races. I haven't had any connection issues (that I know of.)
I'm still learning my way around the device...
Seems last update did something, my G power now works with Boost Mobile sim? software channel still, Google Fi. Bought another G power from Best Buy, channel is, US retail. Both work fine Verizon LTE. Now always carry two identical phones, for safety backup. Waiting for Android 11 update to see if the channel changes on Fi phone?
Try disabling Google Fi app before trying on any other sim card. I'm using G power(bought from google) with ultra-mobile. Everything is working as expected.
Most likely because Ultra Mobile is using T- Mobile. Same as Fi.
Does the Software Channel in "about phone" page still show Google Fi or US retail?
I disabled the Fi app and still could not use Verizon MVNO before last update.
Did any of you guys set up the ****ing APN at all or what? If you have nothing except for basic "2G" its because you need the APN and the moment it's in there it will take a tenth of a second for it to pop up and that's it
Tried that' first phone from Google has "Google FI" as APN. and prefs are grayed out can't change it. Second Moto G from Best Buy has "VZWINTERNET". Found by; Settings, Network & internet, Mobile network, Advanced, Access Point Names. Seems Phone from Google the APN will stay the same if inserting a verizon sim card? Unlocked changes.

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