ice view - HTC 10 Questions & Answers

What is the point of ice view since the screen is not amoled? There is no power savings...

http://www.androidcentral.com/htcs-ice-view-case-replaces-lower-res-dot-view

Screen will be permanently off and can be wakened by a double tap gesture pretty like the dotview cover behaved on the One series.

Yes but why would I want to look at a less visible screen vs full screen is no power savings?

The display shows a special designed view when the case is closed. You can peek at time/date, notifications and the like while the phone stays protected

ademmer said:
The display shows a special designed view when the case is closed. You can peek at time/date, notifications and the like while the phone stays protected
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We all get that.
The point the OP is making is that it's no better than a screen protector because there is NO real power savings with notifications due to not being an AMOLED display.
On top of the obvious, it's a fugly case.
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datafoo said:
We all get that.
The point the OP is making is that it's no better than a screen protector because there is NO real power savings with notifications due to not being an AMOLED display.
On top of the obvious, it's a fugly case.
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Correct. The ugly is a matter of opinion but I don't understand the value of this case at all.

In the grand scheme of things. How often do you check the time. I have a GS7 and from what shows in the battery meters AOD uses at least 5% a day for me. I see no difference leaving the screen off and double tapping to wake when I need to check. I bet it will use less than 5% per day.
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Tidbits said:
In the grand scheme of things. How often do you check the time. I have a GS7 and from what shows in the battery meters AOD uses at least 5% a day for me. I see no difference leaving the screen off and double tapping to wake when I need to check. I bet it will use less than 5% per day.
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Are you saying ice view is useless or good idea

Indifferent. If people don't like it based on battery life for example. If people have to turn on the display to see the time then it's a moot point. If they use AOD for example it uses 5% battery for me so it's another moot point because turning on the display a few seconds every hour isn't going to use that much even it is a LCD.
Personally I am not going to buy it because I am not a fan of folio type cases.
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Tidbits said:
Indifferent. If people don't like it based on battery life for example. If people have to turn on the display to see the time then it's a moot point. If they use AOD for example it uses 5% battery for me so it's another moot point because turning on the display a few seconds every hour isn't going to use that much even it is a LCD.
Personally I am not going to buy it because I am not a fan of folio type cases.
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I always preferred Dotview case on my M9 and I have found the Iceview case even more useful and interactive. Only thing I'd like to see is the ability to theme Iceview like you can theme Dotview.

Tidbits said:
Indifferent. If people don't like it based on battery life for example. If people have to turn on the display to see the time then it's a moot point. If they use AOD for example it uses 5% battery for me so it's another moot point because turning on the display a few seconds every hour isn't going to use that much even it is a LCD.
Personally I am not going to buy it because I am not a fan of folio type cases.
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Using an app that left the LCD screen on all the time would result in a dead battery in 5 hours

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Using an app that left the LCD screen on all the time would result in a dead battery in 5 hours
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But you are not leaving it on for 5 hours. Even with AOD you are not looking at the screen for 5 hours... At best you'd look at it a few times a day which is no different than double tapping your screen when you want to check for the same information. Even without AOD you do the same with both devices.
Sorry I just find it a gimmick or silly to think the battery life is so impacted just to check the time a few times a day.
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Tidbits said:
But you are not leaving it on for 5 hours. Even with AOD you are not looking at the screen for 5 hours... At best you'd look at it a few times a day which is no different than double tapping your screen when you want to check for the same information. Even without AOD you do the same with both devices.
Sorry I just find it a gimmick or silly to think the battery life is so impacted just to check the time a few times a day.
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I think you are confused on what aod is. It means always on display. It doesn't know when you are looking at it or not

km8j said:
I think you are confused on what aod is. It means always on display. It doesn't know when you are looking at it or not
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I am not confused what AOD is, look below I am using an S7 Edge. I have used it and it uses about 5% a day. I only look at my screen a few times a day. I turned it off because I'd rather have the screen off and I hit the power button when I need to look at the time. It's a gimmick. So even with ice view and tapping the screen to check the stats is no different than I would be doing now. I know it doesn't use 5% battery through the whole day to check the time about 20 times a day.
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I am not confused what AOD is, look below I am using an S7 Edge. I have used it and it uses about 5% a day. I only look at my screen a few times a day. I turned it off because I'd rather have the screen off and I hit the power button when I need to look at the time. It's a gimmick. So even with ice view and tapping the screen to check the stats is no different than I would be doing now. I know it doesn't use 5% battery through the whole day to check the time about 20 times a day.
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Yes I agree then. S7 is amoled though so complete different concept but yes if you are going to wake up the HTC, may as well get full screen

There are different implementations done by OEMs for their flip cases, the similar ones are with a clear/or empty circle to show the time. The HTC Ice View (and Dot View before) is the most (non-gimmicky) of all of them. At least, it still servers its main purpose, for example (full-front) protection.
These cases are basically meant for consumers after a flip case in the first place. I think it's a brilliant idea to show information and interact with the phone with the case closed .. but I personally would not buy it because it's a flip case.

My opinion
HTC M10 it is very standard phone so i don't like any case cover......
show your htc m10 without case cover

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Yes I agree then. S7 is amoled though so complete different concept but yes if you are going to wake up the HTC, may as well get full screen
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The g5 has AOD with an lcd doesn't it? And I could've swore I read it was supposed to use less battery than the s7. Whether that's true or not, idk [emoji13]
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[Q] ZAGGsparq 2.0 + sgs2?

has anyone used the sgs2 and a ZAGGsparq 2.0? my friend got one of those for this ipad and it works great (sometimes) i was wondering if anyone has used the ZAGGsparq 2.0 with this phone.
everytime i remember zagg it brings back bad memories...
the are okay for the side and battery doors, but don't ever put it on the screen
AllGamer said:
everytime i remember zagg it brings back bad memories...
the are okay for the side and battery doors, but don't ever put it on the screen
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1- thank you for your reply.
2-what kind of bad experience did you have with it?
I work a lot and i'm always playing music and other apps on my phone so my battery runs out quick, do you you have any recommendations on portable power?
it's a pain in the arse to put the sticker on, zagg is basically a sticker for the lack of better analogy
it's not easy to apply, and if you make a mistake, it takes a lot of work to fix it right
the feel of the rubber like sticker makes it really bad to do things naturally on the screen, if you apply it to the screen as well
now all that was in relation to their skins protection stuff
your Zagg-plug is a whole different level, so you might get lucky and it might actually just works right.
it's just a big chunk of portable battery after all, is hard to go wrong with that
AllGamer said:
it's a pain in the arse to put the sticker on, zagg is basically a sticker for the lack of better analogy
it's not easy to apply, and if you make a mistake, it takes a lot of work to fix it right
the feel of the rubber like sticker makes it really bad to do things naturally on the screen, if you apply it to the screen as well
now all that was in relation to their skins protection stuff
your Zagg-plug is a whole different level, so you might get lucky and it might actually just works right.
it's just a big chunk of portable battery after all, is hard to go wrong with that
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oh i see, I'm mainly looking for some feedback on their portable battery chargers.
there's an existing topic about that already http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1329494
well that post is about some other type of battery pack.
the zaggs battery pack its actually 6,000 mAh, (they also claim that their device can charge a phone 4 times before you need to recharge the battery pack) and only 45 $ (on ebay), i just want to get some feedback from people that have used, i want to know if it really does what they say it does and if it works well with the sgs2
IMO i find a solar powered ones to be more efficient, as it can do both, solar and plug in to the wall
with the one you are investing on, you can only plug it in to a wall for refill
the Zagg screen protectors for the sg2s actually work very very well
i use one on my phone.. as well as the back cover
EVERY Zagg screen protector ive ever seen put on is riddled with so many bubbles its annoying to even use the phone .... BUT .... Every single bubble disapears on its own ( without massaging the screen with a card or any of that nonsense ) within 3 days. my Zagg screen protector was annoying for the first 3 days but now you cant even tell it is there... it has a very natural smooth feel to it, not rubbery unless you accidently get your nail into it then your nail catches ( but doesnt damage the screen protector )
I have a Zagg Sparq and the GS2, haven't used them together though, I could try. My roommate and I both got Sparq's and his was defective right out of the box. From what I've read this happens A LOT from Zagg. Honestly, I don't like them after that whole experience (it was meh). I'll test it out maybe tonight though when my battery is dead. I'll also be receiving this http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005K7192G soon and doing a full review for XDA/my site.
mziol said:
I have a Zagg Sparq and the GS2, haven't used them together though, I could try. My roommate and I both got Sparq's and his was defective right out of the box. From what I've read this happens A LOT from Zagg. Honestly, I don't like them after that whole experience (it was meh). I'll test it out maybe tonight though when my battery is dead. I'll also be receiving this http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005K7192G soon and doing a full review for XDA/my site.
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Thank you, that's the kind of feedback I been looking for.
Please let me know more.
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hmata01 said:
Thank you, that's the kind of feedback I been looking for.
Please let me know more.
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Will do (10 chars)
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Will do (10 chars)
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Which one the zaggs one or the one you are buying?
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i have the zagg dry invisishield and love it. your fingers dont glide well if their wet... but who touches their phone with wet hands.
camf3xu said:
i have the zagg dry invisishield and love it. your fingers dont glide well if their wet... but who touches their phone with wet hands.
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Sweaty hands?
I'm not sure if people understand my question. I want to know about zaggs portable battery pack. I don't really care about their skins.
Here is a URL so you can see what I'm talking about.
http://www.zagg.com/accessories/zaggsparq.php
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the sparqs battery pack is fantastic. I have had one for one year and use it all the time for travels. When I am not using it my son uses daily for his iphone.
$47 on ebay is nice price. I bought at main site when they had a 50% off sale. Great item for me.
jjcgolf72 said:
the sparqs battery pack is fantastic. I have had one for one year and use it all the time for travels. When I am not using it my son uses daily for his iphone.
$47 on ebay is nice price. I bought at main site when they had a 50% off sale. Great item for me.
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While the Zagg Sparq 2.0 worked amazingly well on my iPhone 4 (I got 3 full charges to 100% out of it and atleast 4 hours of runtime for each charge), it's UTTERLY USELESS on the Galaxy S II.
First of all, even though I connected it to the "Optimized" USB port, the SGS2 drained the battery faster than the Zagg could charge it!! I plugged it in at 95% and began using the phone. 3 hours later the phone was down to 60% and the Zagg battery was DEAD (All 4 points depleted). I got another 1.5 hours out of the phone battery.
Just carry a second battery for the SGS2.
meh
Yeah, I would have to second that notion - go with a second battery. I'm using it at we speak, and it doesn't do that great of a job. It might be because my unit is defective, but the sgs2 not only charges slowly but uses up more mah in the process. Good luck getting two charges out of it.
Also, I believe it works best when plugged in to "general" port, as opposed to the optimized one.

App to save your power button?

Anyone know of an app that turns your screen off without pressing the power button? I use Screen Off and Lock on my Evo but it isn't supported yet on the N7.
Try GoSwitch.
clankfu said:
Anyone know of an app that turns your screen off without pressing the power button? I use Screen Off and Lock on my Evo but it isn't supported yet on the N7.
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Button Savior Though I can't say for sure it works with 4.1
There is an app called Turn Off the Lights which works really well.
i use lockscreen widget on my Galaxy nexus.... does the job great... hopefully it also works on the nexus 7....
Get a smart case
Like ragnarokx said, get a smart case to turn the screen on and off automatically.We're just stuck waiting for the manufacturer to get their act together and fill store shelves with them.
Thanks for the suggestions. Yea, I'm definitely getting a smart case as soon as there's something to my liking. I wish the official N7 case had stand functionality.
try screen off and lock in google play....
clankfu said:
Thanks for the suggestions. Yea, I'm definitely getting a smart case as soon as there's something to my liking. I wish the official N7 case had stand functionality.
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Take a stand for what its worth. They usually add bulk.
My wife has an Ipad2 for roughly a year now and has had the smart cover all along. She only uses it to fold it up as more of a handle, and she never, repeat, never uses it as a stand.
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Take a stand for what its worth. They usually add bulk.
My wife has an Ipad2 for roughly a year now and has had the smart cover all along. She only uses it to fold it up as more of a handle, and she never, repeat, never uses it as a stand.
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I think a stand is definitely useful for watching movies.
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I think a stand is definitely useful for watching movies.
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If you're on a train, or an airplane and you're watching a movie, I'd agree.
I have a home theater at home for that.
I use a stand every night when I'm using the Kindle app. Very handy sitting for long stretches of book reading
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EvilDeadFan said:
If you're on a train, or an airplane and you're watching a movie, I'd agree.
I have a home theater at home for that.
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Yea, that's what I meant. Don't really need it for home but it's nice for when you're traveling.
Screen Off and Lock Does work
Screen Off and Lock is working on my N7 I installed it the day it came in the mail (Tues.)
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Screen Off and Lock is working on my N7 I installed it the day it came in the mail (Tues.)
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That's weird. It wasn't working for me so I uninstalled it. I'll give it another shot.
You could try *not* mashing the button like an American Gladiator?
I've never had trouble with a power button failing. I treat it like an electronic device and it lasts far beyond the time I use it for. There's no need to find other means of using a device that comes with its own.

Capactive or On Screen?

As for me, I sincerely hope the buttons are capacitive. I've never been a fan of on screen buttons for various reasons, not to mention. If they are on screen buttons, what the heck is the big black strip at the bottom for? It holds the HTC Logo, sure, but if that's the only reason, then make more use of it. Put some freaking buttons there. Lol. I absolutely love my HTC One 2013, and I'm more than likely getting the 2014 model (which i really hope is called the One Up as some rumors suggest), but the on-screen buttons kill me.
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As for me, I sincerely hope the buttons are capacitive. I've never been a fan of on screen buttons for various reasons, not to mention. If they are on screen buttons, what the heck is the big black strip at the bottom for? It holds the HTC Logo, sure, but if that's the only reason, then make more use of it. Put some freaking buttons there. Lol. I absolutely love my HTC One 2013, and I'm more than likely getting the 2014 model (which i really hope is called the One Up as some rumors suggest), but the on-screen buttons kill me.
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on screen navbar. this was confirmed a long long time ago.
mrvirginia said:
on screen navbar. this was confirmed a long long time ago.
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Confirmed by who? Don't a lot of phones use on screen simply for development models, then add the capacitive in the final models?
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Confirmed by who? Don't a lot of phones use on screen simply for development models, then add the capacitive in the final models?
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i guess you haven't been keeping track of the enormous amount of leaks regarding this device. visit a few phone tech sites like phonearena.com and you'll find all the info you might like to know.
mrvirginia said:
i guess you haven't been keeping track of the enormous amount of leaks regarding this device. visit a few phone tech sites like phonearena.com and you'll find all the info you might like to know.
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I've read a lot of the leaks, and none have really CONFIRMED on screen. Most do show it though. My big question is why the big black useless bar. It just looks bad if there's no use for it.
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I've read a lot of the leaks, and none have really CONFIRMED on screen. Most do show it though. My big question is why the big black useless bar. It just looks bad if there's no use for it.
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that's confirmation...
HTC wants their name on the front. if you don't like it, i would suggest a different device.
mrvirginia said:
that's confirmation...
HTC wants their name on the front. if you don't like it, i would suggest a different device.
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On screen isn't a game breaker for me. Just a nitpick. The all metal body and front facing speaker (as well as the Sense UI,which IMO isthe best stock UI) are enough to warrant me wanting one. Plus I have to buy a phone so I can give my wife my old M7
M8 dump has on screen buttons, if that's not enough confirmation :00
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Maybe they couldn't fit all the internals without the bezel. It doesn't bother me either way
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fr0st420 said:
Maybe they couldn't fit all the internals without the bezel. It doesn't bother me either way
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AFAIK
On screen nav keys are very uncomfortable ...you will be confused about where to click...and in android (except Nexus) nav key bar resizes the layout everytime when appearing...this thing is most annoying!!!
So my decision is I wont buy this if it has On Screen nav...good bye
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meh, on screen keys will be quite nice, and im positive they'll be customize-able once rooted and xposed added in, just look at aosp, can put almost whatever button you want down there.
I actually find on-screen buttons more comfortable. Capacitive buttons on a large device dramatically increases the range of thumb motion required to efficiently operate it one handed. I can't say how many times I've tried to elegantly enable on-screen buttons on my GS3, but each time I was successful it was much less of a reach to hit the menu button.
I am excite for this phone. Seems more and more like a real winner. I don't mind a 2600 mah battery as the GS4 had that same size and was just fine. I was concerned they'd go with 2300-2400, at which point it'd be a deal breaker.
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I'm hopeful thatvthey might offer the ability to turn off on screen buttons, with hidden capacitive buttons in the large black bar. That would be ideal--the best of both worlds.
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Div033 said:
I actually find on-screen buttons more comfortable. Capacitive buttons on a large device dramatically increases the range of thumb motion required to efficiently operate it one handed. I can't say how many times I've tried to elegantly enable on-screen buttons on my GS3, but each time I was successful it was much less of a reach to hit the menu button.
I am excite for this phone. Seems more and more like a real winner. I don't mind a 2600 mah battery as the GS4 had that same size and was just fine. I was concerned they'd go with 2300-2400, at which point it'd be a deal breaker.
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I disagree on the on screen buttons, but it's an opinion, so there's no point in arguing it.I would LOVE to see a 3000 mah battery, but supposedly 2600 is "confirmed." I personally am skeptic about anything being confirmed until HTC themselves says it.
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I'm hopeful thatvthey might offer the ability to turn off on screen buttons, with hidden capacitive buttons in the large black bar. That would be ideal--the best of both worlds.
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I would LOVE to see this. Or at least some use for that area. As I said earlier, it's not a deal breaker, but the random black bar along with the lack on capacitive buttons won't be appreciated on my end at least. Though I understand one opinion does not change an entire company. Unless I'm the CEO of HTC and I didn't know it.
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I disagree on the on screen buttons, but it's an opinion, so there's no point in arguing it.I would LOVE to see a 3000 mah battery, but supposedly 2600 is "confirmed." I personally am skeptic about anything being confirmed until HTC themselves says it.
I would LOVE to see this. Or at least some use for that area. As I said earlier, it's not a deal breaker, but the random black bar along with the lack on capacitive buttons won't be appreciated on my end at least. Though I understand one opinion does not change an entire company. Unless I'm the CEO of HTC and I didn't know it.
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they put on screen keys as per google's instructions to get on their good side
BUT htc probably kept the digitizer all the way down the black space, soooo.....
htc one 2013 rewind to last may and the logo was turned to a menu button, what do you think is gonna happen this time?
come on people start looking forward, after release most software solvable problems will be dealt with
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This would be win-tastic. But I could see how they might think of it as a wasted expense... Don't keep your hopes up.
It would be so cool though.
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AFAIK
On screen nav keys are very uncomfortable ...you will be confused about where to click...and in android (except Nexus) nav key bar resizes the layout everytime when appearing...this thing is most annoying!!!
So my decision is I wont buy this if it has On Screen nav...good bye
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Oh, I absolutely love the on-screen navbar! It's so much faster and efficient than any capacitive button I've used!

Anyone else returning it or thinking about it?

Using a OP3, barely an improvement to me. I find myself more annoyed you cant just enter phone with fingerprint on front or at least tap to wake. Performance wise minimal difference. I'm underwhelmed. I'm giving it one more day but most likely returning. Anyone else feeling similar?
I came from a OnePlus 3 myself and though I do prefer the front fingerprint sensor, the Pixel XL beats it on everything else IMO. My SoT on my PXL destroys what my OP3 was giving me, the camera is on another level, I do feel a difference in smoothness (not necessarily performance, but just general smoothness) and the screen is significantly better too (I plan on using VR, so a QHD screen is sort of necessary).
Now, the Pixel literally cost me twice what I paid for my OP3 ($600 vs $1200 - tax included in CAD$). Is it really worth it? No. Not at all. But as a tech head who switches phones every 6 months, I don't mind spending extra money on a device I use literally every day, constantly. Especially knowing I can sell it 6-12 months later and get the majority of my money back (I always keep my phones in mint condition).
When all is said and done, I'm very happy with my Pixel. Is it overpriced? Yes, but so are all the other main stream flagships. I'm not going to complain about price - which seems to everyone's gripe about this phone (that and waterproofing.. god people need to get over that). At the end of the day, if you're not fully satisfied with your purchase, just return it. I plan on keeping mine.
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Using a OP3, barely an improvement to me. I find myself more annoyed you cant just enter phone with fingerprint on front or at least tap to wake. Performance wise minimal difference. I'm underwhelmed. I'm giving it one more day but most likely returning. Anyone else feeling similar?
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I am similarly annoyed with no ability to wake the screen without picking the device up.... how in the world double tap to wake isn't an option when they put the fingerprint reader on the back is beyond me.
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I am similarly annoyed with no ability to wake the screen without picking the device up.... how in the world double tap to wake isn't an option when they put the fingerprint reader on the back is beyond me
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It definitely should've been a stock option, but that'll be a feature in almost every ROM made for the phone, so not a huge concern TBH.
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It definitely should've been a stock option, but that'll be a feature in almost every ROM made for the phone, so not a huge concern TBH.
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I can't and honestly don't care to flash roms. I can however walk into a version store and say no thanks. Keep it.
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It definitely should've been a stock option, but that'll be a feature in almost every ROM made for the phone, so not a huge concern TBH.
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Myself, I was looking forward to stock without the need for flashing anything but not this time with the pixel.
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I can't and honestly don't care to flash roms. I can however walk into a version store and say no thanks. Keep it.
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Well, as I stated to the OP, "if you're not fully satisfied with your purchase, just return it."
Personally, returning a device simply because it doesn't support Tap to Wake seems a bit overkill. But, if there's other things about the device that urks you, then I don't see why you should keep it. I'm very happy with my purchase.
I read somewhere they are adding double tap to wake in the future. I agree, it needs it BADLY lol. I am satisfied with my purchase. I don't mind the waterproffing, as the Note 7 didn't hold up under 6 inches of water for me anyway. And as for the price? I've paid 800+ for every phone I had the past few years (minus the 6P) so that's a non issue
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Well, as I stated to the OP, "if you're not fully satisfied with your purchase, just return it."
Personally, returning a device simply because it doesn't support Tap to Wake seems a bit overkill. But, if there's other things about the device that urks you, then I don't see why you should keep it. I'm very happy with my purchase.
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I have a $1000 device that has a back side fingerprint reader and absolutely no way to wake it/unlock it using anything on the front/top side of the phone. I am forced to do an awkward pinch to squeeze power button followed by entering a code to unlock or pick up the phone. It's hard to understand how this scenario ever passed their ID department. To me this is a device failure. You see it as a small issue. I see it as me having to pick up my damn phone every time I want to wake it for the next two years because Google made poor ID decisions.
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I'm sending mine back because the screen has a line going down the middle. I'm not doing an RMA because I have the 32gb and that's not going to cut it. 128 is a month wait... Buying a 6p on eBay and saving $700.
Tap to wake is apparently coming "very soon" http://www.androidheadlines.com/2016/10/double-tap-wake-arriving-pixel-phones-soon.html
I'm seriously thinking about it. It's.not because of anything really on my Pixel XL, It's more how AMAZING my Moto Z Force Droid is. I don't know through I keep going g back and forth. Moto has me so disgusted with there marketing plan or lack of one, there horrible customer service, and there nightmare logistics , I wanted to get free from them, But waterproof shatterproof and almost barebones Android make it really nice phone
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FSOP said:
Tap to wake is apparently coming "very soon" http://www.androidheadlines.com/2016/10/double-tap-wake-arriving-pixel-phones-soon.html
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I had read this too in a si.ilar report. I would like to point out that there is a side power button...it wakes the screen without picking it up....
Buddyfunlove said:
I had read this too in a si.ilar report. I would like to point out that there is a side power button...it wakes the screen without picking it up....
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Isnt tap to wake different than ambient display? 6p has ambient display that worked out the box and the new update to 7.1.1 even has a setting for it to show notifications under "Moves". nexus 6 did the same thing, I.E. it had a working ambient display function. My understanding is that tap to wake actually turns on the phone in lieu of power button or similar....it has nothing to do with notification display
Buddyfunlove said:
I had read this too in a si.ilar report. I would like to point out that there is a side power button...it wakes the screen without picking it up....
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Completely different. Not equivalent. Not acceptable. The phone is so thin you are basically having to pick it up from the table at least a little bit to press the power button. Then if you are like lots of professionals we have an admin security policy because of corporate email security that requires you to unlock it with a 5 digit code or fingerprint. So to actually do anything we have to pick it up. Even with tap to wake this is an issue. This single issue is annoying me multiple times daily and might be the nail in the coffin. At least with my. NOTE 7 I could reach over with one finger press the home button while it simultaneously read my finger and be at an unlocked home screen with no more than a single finger press.
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The phone is fine - I knew what I was getting before i purchased it.
I prefer the reader on the back. I have it set to not lock when is at home or in the car so i don't have to pick it up, just press the side button.
P.S. from back in the day this was all the rage:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/11/24/how-to-enable-double-tap-to-wake-on-your-rooted-nexus-6/
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Completely different. Not equivalent. Not acceptable. The phone is so thin you are basically having to pick it up from the table at least a little bit to press the power button. Then if you are like lots of professionals we have an admin security policy because of corporate email security that requires you to unlock it with a 5 digit code or fingerprint. So to actually do anything we have to pick it up. Even with tap to wake this is an issue. This single issue is annoying me multiple times daily and might be the nail in the coffin. At least with my. NOTE 7 I could reach over with one finger press the home button while it simultaneously read my finger and be at an unlocked home screen with no more than a single finger press.
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You kinda knew the layout of the device before buying it right? The missing front fingerprint scanner at least is what I'm referring to. You should definitely just return it though. You're pretty upset and there is no way they can make you happy at this point.
jal3223 said:
You kinda knew the layout of the device before buying it right? The missing front fingerprint scanner at least is what I'm referring to. You should definitely just return it though. You're pretty upset and there is no way they can make you happy at this point.
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Unfortunately I understand the layout and the basic requirement for the need for the ability to unlock the phone without picking it up better than Google did... apparently....im hanging on to it until the return period is up to see what else is out there. I may have to return it and find some junk phone to use until another decent size decent phone comes out.
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Unfortunately I understand the layout and the basic requirement for the need for the ability to unlock the phone without picking it up better than Google did... apparently....im hanging on to it until the return period is up to see what else is out there. I may have to return it and find some junk phone to use until another decent size decent phone comes out.
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Yeah, unfortunately it's about the best we have hardware wise on android at the moment. The Moto G4 plus seems to be a lower spec phone that has a front fingerprint scanner. Honestly, it looks like a great value for it if you don't mind the 1080p display. I personally don't mind it. Plus the software is pretty close to stock. I believe the screen size is the exact same as well.

Note 10+ AOD along the right edge?

I have ordered a cheap Chinese imitation of the Note 10+ S View case which when genuine makes the AOD display down the right edge so it is visible through the cases clear edge. I am presuming the imitation case will not do this so am asking how can I? (of course I might get a nice surprise but I doubt it!).
I'm sure I read how to do that somewhere quite awhile ago but any DuckDuckGo-ing does not turn anything useful up.
Going through settings did not prove fruitful either.
Thanks for the heads up.
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I have ordered a cheap Chinese imitation of the Note 10+ S View case which when genuine makes the AOD display down the right edge so it is visible through the cases clear edge. I am presuming the imitation case will not do this so am asking how can I? (of course I might get a nice surprise but I doubt it!).
I'm sure I read how to do that somewhere quite awhile ago but any DuckDuckGo-ing does not turn anything useful up.
Going through settings did not prove fruitful either.
Thanks for the heads up.
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Sorry, I have no idea, but I would be interested in your experience with this case, I was thinking of going down the same route, the official case being way too expensive.
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Sorry, I have no idea, but I would be interested in your experience with this case, I was thinking of going down the same route, the official case being way too expensive.
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I'm at the point where I think there are only 2 ways its going to happen, either the case has the appropriate bits that make it happen (which I doubt but you never know) or I have to trick the phone into thinking a real case is there.
The settings needed, in accessories it seems, to show the AOD down the right side, do not show up until the phone knows the case is there, from some quick searching it seems this is done with magnets and hall effect sensors to tell the phone the case is fitted, if the info I have stumbled upon is correct. I don't know why Samsung would not let people have the choice of the AOD down the side at any time if they would like instead of only with that case?
So if the case does not have these magnets I will play around until I get something with some small rare earth magnets and see what happens? It will be easy to glue them into the case if it works.
If none of the above works I may have to anti up for a real case....drat.
I like 'em but I'm not sure if I like 'em that much!
(it just struck me that I do not need to wait for the case to try some magnets and see what happens!).
EDIT: ok bad news I'm afraid - the AOD down the right side is NOT on the Note's screen, its on the clear part of the case which is a screen of sorts itself! The case has quite a few tricks and is probably why it costs so much. Bummer. Oh well, the cheap Chinese case will do for now while I agonize over whether to part with the dough for the real Sammy case! I may find that I don't like that type of case that I have to open all the time and I found out cheaply! That's about the only good outcome.
I'm not sure exactly which case you are referring to but the Samsung Clear view cases are just that, a clear part in the case that lets you see the screen.
So possibly some bad news, I have one of the LED cover cases, could be different but when I put the case on the phone it unlocks an app and wallpapers in the phone that let you control the case. In the LED Cover app, the case has its own serial number and strangely, the date I "registered" the case with the phone and there is a date when the software will expire in 3 years. So without access to the app, I think you're stuck.
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I'm not sure exactly which case you are referring to but the Samsung Clear view cases are just that, a clear part in the case that lets you see the screen.
So possibly some bad news, I have one of the LED cover cases, could be different but when I put the case on the phone it unlocks an app and wallpapers in the phone that let you control the case. In the LED Cover app, the case has its own serial number and strangely, the date I "registered" the case with the phone and there is a date when the software will expire in 3 years. So without access to the app, I think you're stuck.
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Yes without the case to tell the phone its there and activate the setting in accessories nothing will happen. I have since found out that the info about the case having a screen is wrong, don't trust Youtube! It is the Note's screen that does everything, after watching another couple of vids I could see the AOD display on the Note's screen briefly when they opened the case.
I wonder if any app developer would like to write a small app to make this happen whenever a person would like, that would cure the problem. I asked in AOD notify thread about this. I'm sure it would not be too hard at all. I think there would be a bit of demand especially from cheap case owners!
I should know by Wednesday at the latest if the cheap case tells the phone its there, it would be nice.
So the case arrived finally.
As expected it does not do anything, its just a case i.e. it does not tell the phone it is there. The special section in accessories is therefore not accessible. No AOD down the side.
The case itself is actually quite nice, seems well made, pretty good considering it was only 5 bucks.
Having said that I don't like the case when it is open, it makes holding the phone awkward so I most likely will not now ever buy the genuine Samsung case which will be the same in this attribute. I have heard this criticism about the sammy case.
I will use it for now to get my 5 bucks worth but will most likely take it off soon enough and put the sammy silicone case back on.
A shame because I like the look of the case on the phone closed and like the screen being protected but I feel that when open the case will likely be the cause of drops so it will have to go me thinks.
So a small update; There is an app in Play Store that will put an AOD style clock down the right side of the screen, right in the right spot for these cheap cases. It is called Edge Clock for S6 but works on most devices and on the Note 10+ too.
It at least makes use of the clear part of the case, kind of like you get with the genuine sammy case but it is just a clock and costs 4 bucks.
Seems to work quite well, different colors available etc. It is not an AOD but you have to run the app which makes the rest of the screen black while it runs the edge clock. I'm using it at home so my phone is unlocked which I find convenient, I get a kind of AOD display like I would of got with the real case so I'm kinda pleased with it.
I have gotten used to the case and have left it on, the initial dislike of when the case is open has passed and there have been no case induced drops, thankfully.
Hope this helps someone.
Couldn't you just have the AOD show the clock down the right side of the screen instead?
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For me, there is the AOD setting for the right-side of the screen. When you are choosing your "Clock Style" in AOD settings, scroll through the list all the way to the right, where there is a 'clock' logo, click it, and there should be 5 additional settings. The last one listed there is the right-side option.
https://imgur.com/a/vYPyrKA
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For me, there is the AOD setting for the right-side of the screen. When you are choosing your "Clock Style" in AOD settings, scroll through the list all the way to the right, where there is a 'clock' logo, click it, and there should be 5 additional settings. The last one listed there is the right-side option.
https://imgur.com/a/vYPyrKA
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Well damn. I have 36 in mine and i don't have that one.
skryte said:
Well damn. I have 36 in mine and i don't have that one.
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I'm on the N975W software, which is compatible with the N975U1, as I had that flashed for a couple weeks too. (Can't recall if the side-view was there or not, sorry)
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Well damn. I have 36 in mine and i don't have that one.
Same here.
It would be nice if someone knew which APK it is with the AOD clock down the side so it could be downloaded and installed for us "not have's"!
The app I spoke of (S6 clock) is OK but it means when using it the phone is actually on and unlocked i.e. the app does not run on the lock screen.
Another Update.
I have found a free app that does what we were really looking for, AOD down the right side on the lock screen with clock, notifications, battery percentage etc!
HooRay!
It is called Always On Display Edge Lighting Super Amoled....yeah a mouthful but it works....except for 1 small problem but easily fixed me thinks.
For some reason it uses the proximity sensor and it switches the display OFF if the case is closed?? yeah I dunno why but I am going to drill a small hole in the case in the right spot to fix that PITA problem early tomorrow morning, bit late now.
So suck it sammy, I got my cheap chinese case AND my AOD for 9 bucks (case 5, first app 4 {now redundant}) second app free!
Hope I have helped someone.
Your selecting the wrong icon select the one that looks like the clock
No need for another app
Your selecting the wrong icon select the one that looks like the clock
No need for another app
It does not matter which clock I select the one I want is not there.
As reported by others as well. Some have it, some do not.
Possibly a region thing, who knows.
Your picking clockface you have it it comes stock
uninstall clockface and I bet it's there
Then you will see it where it Is
Then reinstall clockface
Don't uninstall all of good lock just clockface

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