No Flash with low Battery - HTC 10 Questions & Answers

Hi,
Is it normal for HTC phones to block the camera flash when the Battery is low?
I've been out last night and had about 14% battery, when I wanted to take a picture I got this message.
Even deactivating battery safe mode didn't allow for flash
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We're there any hacks for this?

Haldi4803 said:
Hi,
Is it normal for HTC phones to block the camera flash when the Battery is low?
I've been out last night and had about 14% battery, when I wanted to take a picture I got this message.
Even deactivating battery safe mode didn't allow for flash
We're there any hacks for this?
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Yes, in the past under 15% no flash. It was tweaked to 5% before. I forget if its the app, framework, or kernel. I am sure it will get tweaked when devs get the phone and start hacking away.

Haldi4803 said:
Hi,
Is it normal for HTC phones to block the camera flash when the Battery is low?
I've been out last night and had about 14% battery, when I wanted to take a picture I got this message.
Even deactivating battery safe mode didn't allow for flash
We're there any hacks for this?
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My LG G4 also does the same thing. I'm pretty sure my M7 also prevented flash below 15%
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Haldi4803 said:
Hi,
Is it normal for HTC phones to block the camera flash when the Battery is low?
I've been out last night and had about 14% battery, when I wanted to take a picture I got this message.
Even deactivating battery safe mode didn't allow for flash
We're there any hacks for this?
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Business as usual. Most phones do this. Be glad they do this.
At 15% or below, the voltage of the battery is really low and if you use flashlight, which uses a lot of power = voltage goes down rapidly. And your phone "dies" quickly.

I'm totally fine with my phone dying right after I take this picture! I just want to take this goddamn picture with a flash.

Haldi4803 said:
I'm totally fine with my phone dying right after I take this picture! I just want to take this goddamn picture with a flash.
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Well good luck charging your phone with non-removable battery if the voltage dips too low.
There's a reason for these limitations and you don't wanna discharge lithium ion batteries past a certain point.
And that's not something which is hard to do with lithium's, if the voltage actually goes too low, the charging circuitry won't necessarily "recognize" the battery at all and refuse to charge.
Maybe there's some amount of trickle charge present so if you keep the phone connected it might be able to revive the battery (bump the voltage high enough for the charge circuit to work)
Though the chances of this are relatively low because most charging circuits are waaaay smarter these days and if there's some amount of trickle charge present, the current is so low it might not have any effect on the voltage of the battery..
But if you end up in that kind of situation, there's already permanent damage done to the cell (battery) and it will affect the battery life negatively.
And I wouldn't necessarily even want to attempt to revive a lithium ion battery which is wrapped around aluminium....

Haldi4803 said:
Hi,
Is it normal for HTC phones to block the camera flash when the Battery is low?
I've been out last night and had about 14% battery, when I wanted to take a picture I got this message.
Even deactivating battery safe mode didn't allow for flash
We're there any hacks for this?
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At first I must say, I am jealous! How old is your phone now? . Saturn-Onlineshop in Gemany says the phone is available on Monday.
To the problem: I think we have to wait until root and custom roms are available..

lagittaja said:
Well good luck charging your phone with non-removable battery if the voltage dips too low....
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While you're technically correct it doesn't matter at all.
Phones are idiot proof. If the battery reaches a critical low the phone will shut down.
I doubt that a flash would use so much energy that a battery at 15% would instantly die from it.
AFAIK voltage is pretty persistent until it reaches 5%
It's 3.7V right now at 18%, I'll take a look at 5% and below.
Edit: here it is.
Drops below 3.6V after 3%

I think 5% is a good threshold for blocking flash....15% was probably based on state of affairs 5 years ago. Its another case of software not getting tuned to the times.

Haldi4803 said:
I'm totally fine with my phone dying right after I take this picture! I just want to take this goddamn picture with a flash.
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So you say now....until your phone dies because of constant snapping, and it doesn't have time to actually process the photos. While it may not take it very long to process the photos, a sudden death might result in a loss of quality.

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[Q] Desire shuts down at 10% ?

I am running AuraxSense 8.2 with the latest changed sense kernel.
For somehow my Desire always shuts down around 10%, it's crazy! I tried resetting the battery stats, the charge/discharge cycle, with phone on and off. But this al didnt work.
When my phone says it has around 10% left it does not take long before it shuts down. When I put it to a charger and boot it up, it says it's 0% battery left, thats strange because it was around 10% when it shut down.
I also dont see it going to 1,2,3,4,5,6,7% .. it starts giving a value around 9 or 10. Does anybody have a clue whats going in ?
Its really annoying and been looking into it for several weeks, but havent found an answer.
i've ran nothing but LeeDrOiD roms on my Desire, and always found this, never seen anything below 10% on my phone either :/
My best guess is the phone follow the voltage instead of percentage, as my phone shut down from around 4-10%. And whenever it shut down it has the same voltage
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if something (music, browser, game etc.) is active, then it shuts down even around 14,16% but normally between 9 and 12. Have never seen 5 - 6 thus far.
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Yep, I have this issue too.
It's always at 10% when it shuts down though.
I'm running leedroid 2.3
Hmmm... It is (not) good to know, that I am not the only one. On the other hand, it is a bad thing.
Because I want a percentage meter that is accurate.
How is this possible anybody got some ideas? I think this is REAL lame.
Yeah, I also have (had) this issue for Cyanogenmod 6.1.x and Gingerbread roms. It's been a while since I used any sense-based rom but I swear it didn't happen then.
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Does anybody have found a solution for this?
On a Dutch forum people are also recognizing this problem. Some say that they don't have this with a new (gingerbread) rom.
FWIW I have a stock Vodafone Desire on 2.2 and it behaves in exactly the same way as you are all describing. If you guys with custom roms etc etc (I have yet to venture there) have the same problem then it doesn't sound like an Android issue?
Well, perhaps it is a Sense issue ?
I have a LeeDrOiD ROM and don't have the issue. I can clearly see 6%, 2%, even 1%. But when battery drops below 6% it is just a matter of minutes when the phone will shut down.
Did you try and calibrate your battery?
Do you have wi-fi, BT, 3G turned ON all the time or you turn it on when needed?
All this can greatly influence your battery.
I have Leedroid 2.3c and my phone shuts down at 10%.
I use really low power settings when my battery comes below 15 eprcent.
very low brightness, no bluethooth etc.
So it is something else.
Do you guys know that li-ion batteries don't have a linear voltage drop while discharging?
Look at this graph, as you can see the voltage drops very quickly when it's almost empty:
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Do you guys know that li-ion batteries don't have a linear voltage drop while discharging?
Look at this graph, as you can see the voltage drops very quickly when it's almost empty:
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Nee, no i did not know that. But it still does not solve anything.
Had this problem even whilst on stock rom before rooting. I've found that if I charge the phone overnight whilst it's off, the battery seems to run down to zero properly rather than shutting down at 10%.
Anyone else tried this?
My battery starts to drop faster at the end but i still se the percentage all the way down to 0 before it shuts down.
I also have this problem now for a while.
When on stock Eclair at launch date I didn't have this problem but I noticed it after changing to Open Desire and still have it on Lee Droid too.
Usually 14-15% for me.
Didn't calibrate it as it appears it'll make it worse in quite a few cases.
i have the same problem mine shuts down at 8% use to shutdown at 13%, rang htc they said the software on the phone is giving the wrong reading for the battery and to charge it switched off for 8 hours, well i did and it now shuts at 8%. im on leedroid 2.2f.
Actually this may well be a case of protect the battery syndrome . Basicly Lithium ion batteries were never made to be run right out of juice if they do it can harm the battery and even stop it from charging all together - Yes i have a phone here (not a desire) with a dead li-ion battery from letting it run all the way down to 0% now it won't charge and the only way to get it going again (if i'm lucky) is to "bump start" it with another battery.
Now i don't know about you guys but i would rather my phone turn off at 10% and charge ok than have dead batteries at 0% just my 2 cents

Battery dead overnight.

So, I had about 50% juice when I went to bed last night. Woke up to see phone dead. Had to plug in charger to start it as battery was fully drained.
So what causes such sudden battery drop?
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rtz619 said:
So, I had about 50% juice when I went to bed last night. Woke up to see phone dead. Had to plug in charger to start it as battery was fully drained.
So what causes such sudden battery drop?
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It seriously looks like some apps have been doing some heavy tasks while youre sleeping..
Check with your nearest dealer. Then contact samsung if you think your battery is faulty
Battery doesnt seem faulty at such an early stage.
Best solution. Download BetterBatteryStats and check out what is draining your battery
Its the solution i would do with myself
imrhay said:
It seriously looks like some apps have been doing some heavy tasks while youre sleeping..
Check with your nearest dealer. Then contact samsung if you think your battery is faulty
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I dont even have much apps installed yet. & battery life so far was really good until this morning. Seems quite stange. Has it happened to anyone else?
I don't think that could have been any apps to deplete the battery that quickly. I mean, that literally did a nose dive. Ever heard of Ghosts?!? DunDunDunnnnn
Does battery reset itself somehow?
Yes, an app or some apps drained your battery No other solution possible mate . As mentioned before install BetterBattery Stats and cpu spy and check for unusal app behavior.
The thing that surprises me is that on the steep drop, the green border-line is missing. It doesn't look like drain; it looks more a short circuit...
Its actually not a drain. Its a sudden cut off.
rtz619 said:
So what causes such sudden battery drop?
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In your case, don't bother with better battery stats or any other that other crap people are suggesting. I don't think the majority of the people who read your post bothered to look at the attached image (or didn't understand it.)
During the time that your battery dropped off, android wasn't even active (as no battery stats were logged.) That drop-off looks to me like some type of system crash or something rebooted your phone into recovery (or download) mode and left it there until the battery died (causing a power down.)
I can't tell you WHY that happened, but I can't think of anything "normal" that would cause it. I used to see something similar when I was doing kernel work on a specific samsung tablet if the user had one of the so-called supercharger scripts installed. In that case, the kernel would panic (wifi bug) and the script had re-written the kernel parameters to cause an infinite loop instead of letting the kernel panic reboot the device. The result was that the device would get warm and drain the battery until there was no more power.
Recovery meant charging the device first and upon finally getting it to boot, the battery page would look similar to yours.
Another possibility is that your phone hit what it THOUGHT it was around 46%, but the battery stopped giving juice.
In your shoes, I'd do something I usually tell other people never to do: Purposely run your battery down below 40% to make sure the same thing doesn't happen. (If it does, consider restoring your phone to stock, testing again, and possibily calling Samsung.)
Good luck
Gary
garyd9 said:
In your case, don't bother with better battery stats or any other that other crap people are suggesting. I don't think the majority of the people who read your post bothered to look at the attached image (or didn't understand it.)
During the time that your battery dropped off, android wasn't even active (as no battery stats were logged.) That drop-off looks to me like some type of system crash or something rebooted your phone into recovery (or download) mode and left it there until the battery died (causing a power down.)
I can't tell you WHY that happened, but I can't think of anything "normal" that would cause it. I used to see something similar when I was doing kernel work on a specific samsung tablet if the user had one of the so-called supercharger scripts installed. In that case, the kernel would panic (wifi bug) and the script had re-written the kernel parameters to cause an infinite loop instead of letting the kernel panic reboot the device. The result was that the device would get warm and drain the battery until there was no more power.
Recovery meant charging the device first and upon finally getting it to boot, the battery page would look similar to yours.
Another possibility is that your phone hit what it THOUGHT it was around 46%, but the battery stopped giving juice.
In your shoes, I'd do something I usually tell other people never to do: Purposely run your battery down below 40% to make sure the same thing doesn't happen. (If it does, consider restoring your phone to stock, testing again, and possibily calling Samsung.)
Good luck
Gary
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Thanks for the prompt reply.
Meanwhile battery life was normal throughout the day. I will follow what u suggested n if it acts weird again, I'll have to go to samsung i guess.

Worse battery life with KK

Worst fears realised.
The Kit Kat update has delivered drastically worse battery life.
Could often work with 10% per 45 min - 1 hr screen time before on WIFI, that has now gone out of the window.
1 hr 44 min screen time with 68% left now.
That is quite a bit worse I would say.
Anyone else feel the same?
I would rollback, but the camera improvements are just so much better.
Arthur Hucksake said:
Worst fears realised.
The Kit Kat update has delivered drastically worse battery life.
Could often work with 10% per 45 min - 1 hr screen time before on WIFI, that has now gone out of the window.
1 hr 44 min screen time with 68% left now.
That is quite a bit worse I would say.
Anyone else feel the same?
I would rollback, but the camera improvements are just so much better.
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I had about 5 hr screen time and almost 2 days of usage. I am using stamina and greenify though since I don't need emails and notifications pushed, I just manually refresh it.
Nope, I just managed 7.5 hours OST on my last charge on WiFi without Stamina Mode, so quite a bit better for me than JB where 5/6 was more usual. Standby power is also noticeably better, averaging ~0.4%/h.
Sadly the KitKat changes make most battery stat apps useless without root now, or I'd suggest you run one to see what's up on your end.
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Nope, I just managed 7.5 hours OST on my last charge on WiFi without Stamina Mode, so quite a bit better for me than JB where 5/6 was more usual. Standby power is also noticeably better, averaging ~0.4%/h.
Sadly the KitKat changes make most battery stat apps useless without root now, or I'd suggest you run one to see what's up on your end.
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Cant find anything that stands out. Going to drain and do a charge from fresh.
Did anyone try to calibrate the battery after flashing?
Calibrating battery gives exact battery reading.
There is no real calibration in android and for everybody pls alow 3-4 full charges before reporting your battery life on kitkat(same when flashing new kernel)
same here.
Done full drain but no change. moreover the phone gets heated quickly..
getvaisakh said:
same here.
Done full drain but no change. moreover the phone gets heated quickly..
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This is obviously a sign of some rogue process running intensively (compare performance after booting in safe mode to confirm). You should be able to figure out pretty easily which it is from the basic battery stats page, sadly no partial wakeleock listings anymore on non-rooted phones though.
ghtop said:
This is obviously a sign of some rogue process running intensively
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I didn't installed any apps as I bought phone day before yesterday Then the possibility is bug in Sony's new firmware.
compare performance after booting in safe mode to confirm
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How to boot into safe mode?? sorry I am new here and this is my first android ph )
I have done factory reset>>installed 4.4.2 via PC companion>>full factory reset incl internal storage.. heating problem is somewhat solved.
But it gets heated up when connected to charger..which on JB doesn't happened!! strange..
Draining seems to be normal but takes too much time to charge..
I got a great battery life on kitkat.
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Glad to report that after a reboot and couple of charges I am back to where I was. The slow opening camera issue I had has also gone away.
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Battery discharging abnormally fast.

A few weeks ago i had this weird abnormally fast discharge got the phone at 2% battery for like 30 minites, then 3% battery. So i took this capture.
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Now, my phone discharges abnormally fast since yesterday
My phone is 100% stock 6.0, logd dissabled since months ago, same usage, very weird, so much frustation. From 20% to 2% in 20 minutes, wtf? .
Phone is 5 months old. H815P.
Help? Any tip, anything?
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It's happening more or less the same on my H815. I've tried everything so far: plane mode or not, different roms stock or not, 5.1 and 6.0, dozens of factory resets, even a brand new battery, it's exactly the same everywhere. Phone will suck around 10% per hour even when freshly formated and untouched, even on plane mode. And any application informing of battery stats won't point at anything as the culprit, it's like the battery capacity is suddenly a 10% of what it should be but will still take 1:30h to fully charge. I haven't RMA'd it yet because mine has the bootloader unlocked but I might if it doesn't fix itself soon. What serial is yours? Mine is a 508.
Hopefully, living in Europe means they won't reject the warranty for an unlocked bootloader as it's obviously a hardware problem.
beje86 said:
It's happening more or less the same on my H815. I've tried everything so far: plane mode or not, different roms stock or not, 5.1 and 6.0, dozens of factory resets, even a brand new battery, it's exactly the same everywhere. Phone will suck around 10% per hour even when freshly formated and untouched, even on plane mode. And any application informing of battery stats won't point at anything as the culprit, it's like the battery capacity is suddenly a 10% of what it should be but will still take 1:30h to fully charge. I haven't RMA'd it yet because mine has the bootloader unlocked but I might if it doesn't fix itself soon. What serial is yours? Mine is a 508.
Hopefully, living in Europe means they won't reject the warranty for an unlocked bootloader as it's obviously a hardware problem.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/and...ttery-life-t3095884/post60429417#post60429417
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Been there, done that. No matter if I'm using a freshly factory reset stock ROM with all radios activated or a fully modded, debloated, greenefied and amplified CM installation on plane mode. Battery will still deplete at 10% hour with no culprit in battery stats (top one will be Screen with something like 30 minutes on and 100mAh used)
beje86 said:
It's happening more or less the same on my H815. I've tried everything so far: plane mode or not, different roms stock or not, 5.1 and 6.0, dozens of factory resets, even a brand new battery, it's exactly the same everywhere. Phone will suck around 10% per hour even when freshly formated and untouched, even on plane mode. And any application informing of battery stats won't point at anything as the culprit, it's like the battery capacity is suddenly a 10% of what it should be but will still take 1:30h to fully charge. I haven't RMA'd it yet because mine has the bootloader unlocked but I might if it doesn't fix itself soon.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/nexus5x/comments/3y8144/guide_finding_battery_issues_with_googles_battery
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Thanks, I'll try. Even though Better Battery Stats does more or less the same and showed absolutely nothing (wakelocks et all) draining the battery.
That tool has a lot more granularity maybe it might reveal some more clues. Same goes for the OP.
let us know how it goes.
beje86 said:
Been there, done that. No matter if I'm using a freshly factory reset stock ROM with all radios activated or a fully modded, debloated, greenefied and amplified CM installation on plane mode. Battery will still deplete at 10% hour with no culprit in battery stats (top one will be Screen with something like 30 minutes on and 100mAh used)
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CM you get what you get...try Genisys
Does the phone get warm while this is happening?
the way I see it, you either 1) have crappy battery, and phone is normal so doesn't suck down lots of electricity and doesn't get warm, or 2) have fine battery, and phone is acting weird and sucking down all your energy.
If you are situation 2), then you would feel the phone get very warm to use that much energy so fast. If your phone is cool during all this time, then it's not using much energy to be able to stay cool, so you know your battery is having a problem.
maybe try cutting a hole in your pocket and put your phone against your thigh to really feel whether it's too warm.

15% battery and phone is "dead"

Hi guys,
I have a problem with... When battery drops down to 15, my phone turns off, and 46 six aps are being optimized. I'm not alone with this problem, my friend with HTC... has the same. Any solutions?
And now "com.google.process.gapps has been stopped and i must do hard reset.
Help guys.
Do you have a custom rom?
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Do you have a custom rom?
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Oryginal
I have the same problem, and im on a custom ROM! So annoying
Yea me too. I guess it's my fault or something like this. Sometimes phone can handle 4%, sometimes it'll dead at 11% and so on.
woloss said:
Yea me too. I guess it's my fault or something like this. Sometimes phone can handle 4%, sometimes it'll dead at 11% and so on.
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The battery meter isn't that accurate, its just an estimation based on the battery voltage versus how you use your phone (and the resulting "typical" battery drain). You shouldn't expect it to be accurate to the being within the 1-2 (or even 5) percent range. Shutting off at 4 to 11% is not unusual, and not surprising.
You shouldn't be draining your battery down that low on a regular basis. Its bad for long term battery life. Good rule of thumb for Li ion batteries is short and frequent charge cycles.
However, optimizing apps and/or google process stopped after a shutdown (due to low battery) is not normal. That's a different matter.
I have this problem, plus some of my settings get reset such as my wallpaper, ringtone, notification tone, boomsound (off to on), screen timeout, screen brightness, whatsapp (keeps asking me to chose my backup options and no messages come through until then). This has never happened before and I'm not sure why it's only happening now. I'm not purposely trying to drain the battery or anything, it's just that sometimes on the road I am unable to charge it and it'll just die out midway when previously, that extra 15% could've lasted me for another 30 minutes, just enough for me to reach my destination.
The same problem.. But the bigger problem for me, it's reseting my settings..
It is a terrible problem , I return to KitKat and my battery reaches 1% , and so normal ... I'll make a test with lollipop .
Yes, same problem! So glad someone made a thread for it. It's frustrating and happens literally every time.
Experienced on both the stock and a custom rom. Any one knows any fixes? Is it because of the 'battery life reduces over time' thing? My phone is 2 years old now
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The same problem.. But the bigger problem for me, it's reseting my settings..
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That seems to be a problem with all htc ones (m7, m8, m9) as they get older, dont worry its normal :laugh:
ive been experiencing this for a while, clear dalvik cache and let android do the whole rebuilding thing at the start and you should be fine...as for the battery fix ive just learnt to live with it, 15% is the new 2%!!!
I'm on this problem since a lot of time, as i was one of the first in the community to report it.
Seems like an end-of-life issue for one m8 and htc one phones line.
In my case i had a camera and charge board issue too, so in rma htc changed them, and now the phone is charging and quick-charging like it must have to. But i have to be careful when near 15% of battery because using camera, flashlight or others power-expensive features instantly turns the phone off, causing a database mismatch on the next boot (for marshmallow) and consequently the loss of data.
If the instant-poweroff occurs during boot, there is a massive loss of data and a lot of force closes on the next boot.
Nothing to do here i think, sadly.
In kitkat and lollipop battery reach at 1% ...
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Sent from my HTC One_M8 using XDA-Developers mobile app
I have a fix for this as it happened to me and I tried a battery calibration app from the app store... I thought what your thinking now but after finding bad sectors and "repairing" it did actually work
solve the problem of battery and loss of settings , change the battery of my htc, now everything is fine , 3 days that the battery is discharged properly , I hope this information will help someone.
thats kinda "cool" to see many people have same problem as i do. atleast it wont run u crazy as before
1. sometimes phone dies when battery is 15%, and sometimes it dies when around 4% 2% or even 1%
2.resetting settings after phone dies!
so is the solution, to change battery? any better way that doesnt need to spend money?
Replace battery
how did you do this? does this actually work?
https://www.fixez.com/blog/how-to-replace-htc-one-m8-battery/
grafik2 said:
how did you do this? does this actually work?
https://www.fixez.com/blog/how-to-replace-htc-one-m8-battery/
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Yes I've done this a couple of weeks back. The replacement is actually less hard as it seems.
But finding an original replacement battery seems to be pretty hard - Even though the replacement I bought is HTC branded and looks genuine, I feel like it's actually draining a little faster than my old original. 12€ Ebay had too good to be true.
However the instant-shutoffs are now a thing of the past along with the database corruption, so I'm going to have to live with a little less battery life.
Or does anyone know of a provider for genuine batteries?

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