Now that Google has officially brought the Play Store to Chrome OS, do you think that Google might bring Chrome OS to the Pixel C through an update?
Personally, I think they should, given the fact that the Pixel C was originally intended to be a Chrome OS device.
EDIT: Forgot to mention that I would want them to make it so you could dual boot between Android and Chrome OS. Obviously if they replace the OS completely I would not be too happy about it.
I am thinking why would I want Chrome OS, I hope not.
I also doubt it would happen with the Pixel C, maybe something in the future but not the Pixel C.
I think at this point, it is highly unlikely Google will do anything to drastically change the layout of the Pixel C. However, they do need to better optimize Android for tablet usage and overall make it more feasible as a desktop-like OS. Sure, there's multiwindow support supposedly coming with Android N, but they really need to make it generally easy to use if Google hopes to attract more people to devices like the Pixel C.
While I love my Pixel C, I also would have no real use for it without my desktop as well. Android as an operating system is great for devices more geared towards entertainment media consumption, but they have a long ways to go if they hope to be any form of effective productivity machines. While they have since officially denied rumors of merging Chrome OS and Android, I do hope they create some form of format for the Pixel C that is similar to Chrome OS, as well as iron out some of the ever-present bugs as well.
Now if only Google would make a Pixel Phone.....
ChromeOS is getting more Android goodness with better integration than the ARCWelder. So that argues that larger tablets should come with ChromeOS for better multitasking and run Android apks where ChromeOS may be lacking.
However given so few Pixel C sold, it doesn't make sense for Google to productise a ChromeOS ROM for the Pixel C, but rather for its successor.
My Chromebook (based on Intel) I put into developer mode, install Ubuntu via Crouton, then installed Virtualbox and run a Windows VM, hence I got ChromeOS, Ubuntu and Win7 all in one $400 large screen full backlit keyboard with trackpad and a $30 128GB SD card. I tend to stay in ChromeOS unless I got an unsupported media to play then use Ubuntu, and for the odd Windows app I boot that.
Compare to Pixel C.... expensive, no expandable storage and one OS (Android).
These devices are the same weight, just different robustness and from factor.
I got my Pixel as a replacement for my desktop and I would love to have ChromeOS on it, instead of Android, or the ability to switch between the two on the fly depending on whether or not it's docked to a keyboard or not.
I doubt it'll come as an automatic update. It's not 'right' to force people who bought an Android device to switch them to a completely different OS.
May be as an optional update with a lot of warnings but the Google will have then to support 2 different firmware lines for the same device.
I know I'd like that but I have very little hope.
Agreed, it would most likely come in the form of a custom ROM.
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So, now that windows phone 7 is out, is there any chance of us getting a port for the rhodium? I realize every windows phone 7 phone has a snapdragon and the os is pretty resource extensive, but is it possible, mindful of the performance degradation?
As has been said in the dozen other threads on the same subject...no.
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So, now that windows phone 7 is out, is there any chance of us getting a port for the rhodium? I realize every windows phone 7 phone has a snapdragon and the os is pretty resource extensive, but is it possible, mindful of the performance degradation?
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You're kidding; yes? It makes no sense to try; however maybe the HD2.
tbh the OS is very complex and idk how itll behave on a storage card if youre talking about a port like XDANDROID, its very possible but itll need some serious time to optimize and be able to run flawless on our TP2s
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Even if it were possible for developers to dedicate their time to yet another major long-term project, why would they when the hardware necessary to use WP7 isn't supported on Windows Mobile devices or if they found a work-around it wouldn't work as good.
I think the fact that we have Android is good enough, WP7 is a fresh OS and deserves better. — It's the same mentality as people who use OSX Visual Styles on their Windows 7 machines, it makes no sense or the people who use the iPhone or now WP7 overlay app on their device.
As much as I love the touch pro 2 for it's solid build quality and amazing keyboard; let's be honest, the smudgy resistive screen isn't nice compared with a capacitive AMOLED screen and many other reasons why WP7 wouldn't be as glamorous as on a new device.
*Also, look how long it took the team to get Android to run to a usable/enjoyable point, by that time Froyo was already released and you could have made enough money to go out and buy a brand new Android device. — With WP7 the project will be even longer in my opinion, as there are more components to think about in regards to how the OS operates and functions. (No 'expandable' SD-card, can only sync via Zune software and many other barriers)
*-No disrespect to any of the XDAndroid team you all did an awesome job, just pointing out the fact that delays and issues are to be expected, so WP7 would just be an even greater headache which isn't worth it, might as well start a WP7 project fresh with WP7 hardware then the fun can begin.
I have loved everything about this tablet and is a worthy successor of my nexus 7, but since the Pixel C is technically not a "nexus" line, will Google still let us unlock the bootloader and root? I'm really hoping so because this thing has so much potential. I wanted to love the nexus 9, but the price was absolutely absurd with nothing really new to bring the table except lollipop.
Thoughts?
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Yes! Pixel C has to be up to date tablet so google has to provide ability to flash firmware images when they arrive. And Fastboot provides and easy way of flashing firmware onto a device as it requires almost no setup on linux (a fastboot binary is needed). Nexus player is an android device but still has its images online.
It could just be the first Non-Nexus device to have images hosted.
I think the only difference between the pixle and nexus is that the nexus is always built by another oem where as pixle is made house. I expect this to be like a nexus in every possible way
My prediction is this:
1. Yes the bootloader will be unlockable
2. Yes there will be factory images available
3. It is possible that the stock ROM will be a proprietary version of Android M 6.0, (hopefully not) being closed sourced.
4. The Pixel C will only be available to US residents, and difficult to obtain from outside the U.S.
I'm only speculating on this based off of previous Pixel releases, not trying to be negative. I really hope Google loosen up on this device because there really is no other tablet that I've been interested in since the Nexus 7. I really wish Google would give us some more information, at the very least about availability by country.
Edit: Well, looks like I was wrong. Good wrong though, I'm quite happy they're treating this device like a Nexus. On a whim I bought a N9 for $200 off on Black Friday. I have no regrets though, as the N9 fits my needs to a tee and I'm quite happy with it.
I'd love to be able to dual boot this with Debian.
"PK: Yes, the Pixel C will be supported on AOSP just like other Nexus devices. The bootloader can be unlocked to enable booting an alternate OS. Pixel C does not support Chromebook style recovery via USB. The firmware is open source. It is Coreboot. DisplayPort support over Type C is being worked on but we don't have a release date yet."
And the answer is...
Yes!
https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/3w3x7p/hi_im_andrew_here_at_google_and_im_with_the_team/
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as mentioned in another thread the pixel c uses the new unlock command, fastboot flashing unlock, introduced with the 6p.
I hope the aosp sources will be avaliable soon.
They are here!
https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images#ryu
https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/drivers#dragon
Update**
Update 3.0 already out, just go to settings and download the upgrade or download http://ota-downloads.nvidia.com/ota..._e-full_ota-41937_667.2671.20160218230615.zip and Flash it with TWRP.
Enjoy Android 6.0
Thanks for the link brotbuexe
Great when ??
https://youtu.be/QtPGPBN5PJQ
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Great. Good to see updates coming.
Will they enable the track pad as it was advertised?
Will there be Skype as it was advertised?
I'm excited for the update.
Sometimes soon is not soon at all. ? they made it seem like it was released till the last sentence
Note 5 ?
Hope it's soon enough, the USB storage option is really a blast since I got a 1TB external exFAT harddrive attached, using that would be beast as ****.
would it be possible to flash ir with twrp without losing root? sorry for the noob question
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ShadowRii said:
would it be possible to flash ir with twrp without losing root? sorry for the noob question
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Best way would be to have systemless root, and to flash each individual partition with fastboot.
so if you had systtemless root, you could just flash the stock boot.img, and do a standard OTA.
once the OTA is done and everything is working you get systemless root by flashing via fastboot recovery and the then the systemless supersu package via TWRP
(all this is as long as you haven't modified the system partition)
And just one high end game though
Well it's thursday here but i have not seen the game available or the update to marshmallow. Guess i'll keep checking for it.
Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance is available on Google Play now: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nvidia.metalgearrisingrevengeance
Yes... and quit good i must say... Waiting for RE4... and of course.. Marshmallow Update.
is metal geer rising activated by a server? so you always have to be online, like doom ?
The game is available but the Marshmallow update isn't live yet. And installing a 5.5 Gb game on the internal memory is impossible. I have a 64Gb class 10 micro SD plugged in but I don't want to install any game on it cause I know that I will have to erase it to use it as internal storage in Marshmallow.
Can't you just move the games/apps back to internal SD, format and move back?
Still waiting for the fabled marshmallow update. Can't come soon enough for the sake of my internal memory!
Have to say though, some of the "new" features touted, aren't exactly new.
"Several new features offer increased personalization and ease of use. The home screen can now be customized by rearranging app tiles and menus. Searching has become easier with a new speak or click-to-type functionality".
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the last updates to the Android TV launcher & Google apps gave us both of those things. I've been rearranging my apps for a few weeks now...
January 17th . . . still waiting. It's now been over a whole quarter since Nvidia said they wouldn't keep us waiting "too long." Normally, I might be inclined to think the delay is trying to reconcile "M" with Android TV, that is, Google's biggest mistake ever just behind the Glass. But the Nexus Player already has Marshmallow. Every single element of Android performs noticibly worse on the stock Android TV than it does, for say, on Zulu99's rom. Who, might I add, worked on theirs for how long compared to Nvidias whole damn team? The Nvidia Shield Console is arguably the most advanced android device in existance. I would like to be at the very least somewhat thrilled by an official attempt at an OS by the makers. I'm not expecting to EVER be wowed again like I was for the original Shield before they messed up the streaming feature with it's innacurate roaming diagnostic features and stupid uneditable poor signal icon. Nvidia better have a daaaaaaaaaaamn good excuse.
any news on update.. so annoying
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January 17th . . . still waiting. It's now been over a whole quarter since Nvidia said they wouldn't keep us waiting "too long." Normally, I might be inclined to think the delay is trying to reconcile "M" with Android TV, that is, Google's biggest mistake ever just behind the Glass. But the Nexus Player already has Marshmallow. Every single element of Android performs noticibly worse on the stock Android TV than it does, for say, on Zulu99's rom. Who, might I add, worked on theirs for how long compared to Nvidias whole damn team? The Nvidia Shield Console is arguably the most advanced android device in existance. I would like to be at the very least somewhat thrilled by an official attempt at an OS by the makers. I'm not expecting to EVER be wowed again like I was for the original Shield before they messed up the streaming feature with it's innacurate roaming diagnostic features and stupid uneditable poor signal icon. Nvidia better have a daaaaaaaaaaamn good excuse.
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I can't agree with you more... How is it that the Android boxes coming out of China have enough common sense not to use [Android TV] (which is turrible), but instead just slap their own front ends on top of the real Android OS, so that the user can then decide if they like it, or want something better (aka Nova Launcher)... NVIDIA seems to have built their system using an OS with 3 year olds in mind. On a side note, Google should have learned from the failure of [Google TV] and just stopped, instead of rebranding the same failed BS as [Android TV]...
The hardware seems good for a small Chromebook, but I read a rumor/insight that ChromeOS touchscreen wasnt ready so last minute they loaded Android, as shown in the bootloader and drivers.
Does anyone think they'll offer ChromeOS for the Pixel C?
Or it is all it can be and it is the split-screen champion of Android N and hence why the 25% "developer's" discount?
The discount came around because there's so little development and fairly limited interest. Since it has a Chrome OS bootloader, dev'ing for it is harder, from what I hear/understand. I doubt it'll get Chrome OS, though I'm hoping for Remix OS. I wish they would replace the bootloader with an Android one, but I doubt that's possible remotely.
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The discount came around because there's so little development and fairly limited interest. Since it has a Chrome OS bootloader, dev'ing for it is harder, from what I hear/understand. I doubt it'll get Chrome OS, though I'm hoping for Remix OS. I wish they would replace the bootloader with an Android one, but I doubt that's possible remotely.
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I just yesterday manually flashed the latest Android, and I did the fastboot flash bootloader bootloader-dragon-google_smaug.7132.295.0.img
I'm sure bootloader could be modified.
The relatively quiet Pixel C shows me there is little interest relatively for this tablet.
It's a real shame as this tablet has a lot of potential. I guess I bought into that potential though I do consider XDA as the benchmark and if this section isn't booming....then
Doesn't help with the early woes and the normal price of the unit. I've been fortunate to have a problem free unit, mine is fast, fluid, well built and all that lacks is some decent software.
I suppose N will be our salvation.
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I just yesterday manually flashed the latest Android, and I did the fastboot flash bootloader bootloader-dragon-google_smaug.7132.295.0.img
I'm sure bootloader could be modified.
The relatively quiet Pixel C shows me there is little interest relatively for this tablet.
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Modified =/= change from Chrome OS to Android bootloader. I too have it unlocked. I just think that changing to an Android bootloader involves hardware changes as well as firmware.
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Doughnut said:
It's a real shame as this tablet has a lot of potential. I guess I bought into that potential though I do consider XDA as the benchmark and if this section isn't booming....then
Doesn't help with the early woes and the normal price of the unit. I've been fortunate to have a problem free unit, mine is fast, fluid, well built and all that lacks is some decent software.
I suppose N will be our salvation.
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N should be great. To be fair, I don't really need much past what GravityBox provides me.... I'm just a flashaholic. Really, really hoping for Remix OS though.
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Modified =/= change from Chrome OS to Android bootloader. I too have it unlocked. I just think that changing to an Android bootloader involves hardware changes as well as firmware.
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I would like there to be a ChromeOS ROM version for the Pixel C in so far as the multitasking and windowing is superior and not reliant on apps being modified, unlike Android N will take year+ to get all apps to behave.
However I don't see it happening, it makes no sense to retrofit it on the Pixel C, unless they decide to use the Pixel C as a developer option to pull ChromeOS upwards on that form factor with touchscreen.
nigelhealy said:
I would like there to be a ChromeOS ROM version for the Pixel C in so far as the multitasking and windowing is superior and not reliant on apps being modified, unlike Android N will take year+ to get all apps to behave.
However I don't see it happening, it makes no sense to retrofit it on the Pixel C, unless they decide to use the Pixel C as a developer option to pull ChromeOS upwards on that form factor with touchscreen.
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I agree, not gonna happen.
Hi everyone. I see that RemixOS is now officially supported on the Google Pixel C. But what I don't see is a lot of feedback on using is long-term.
I loved my Remix Ultratablet at first. Great form-factor, and of course RemixOS. Though over the course of a few months it started to show problems, many of which are productivity killers: freezing, display lag, video playback lag, touch inaccuracies, etc.
The Pixel C also has a cool form factor, and (people say) the hardware of the Pixel C great, but the OS was lacking. It seems that Pixel C + RemixOS could be a powerful combo. But has anyone used this combination long-ish term that can share feedback?
Thanks in advance.
i dont understand the original google android os should better than remix os, its not stable ,cost lots of batteries
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